Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-08 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Mimosa backhaul radios do something like this; they both have GPS, and if they're talking at all, they figure out bearing to each other and give you compass bearing. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 6:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microw

[AFMUG] Need any Pigtails?

2020-04-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I bought the wrong item and don't feel like shipping it back to Australia. Anyone in the US need any UPS pigtails? https://www.fs.com/products/42459.html - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- AF mailing list AF@af.a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Unacast

2020-04-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Google != Unacast, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 5:14:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:

Re: [AFMUG] Need any Pigtails?

2020-04-08 Thread Mike Hammett
UPC* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:41:58 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Need any Pigtails? I bou

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
There should be a t-shirt for that. From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks I would have probably said something like "I'm wearing this for *your* benefit *not* mine.

Re: [AFMUG] OT COVID-19 Key

2020-04-08 Thread Christopher Tyler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV1TEssH7k -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "AnimalFarm Microwave Use

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Caleb Knauer
Probably wouldn't help. Idiots gonna idiot. Only way someone like this takes this (or anything that doesn't fit into their idiot flavored world view) seriously is for it to hit them personally. And then they'll complain no one told them. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 9:18 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > The

[AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Someone I know owns a property with a mono-pole on it owned by American Tower. The landowner has a pretty good lease IMO. They are getting $13,000 lease payments annually that increase 15% every 5 years. The tower is downtown in a populated city and Verizon is the only tenant on it and there is not

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/8/20 9:04 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Both those offers are less than what the current lease payments are, the one time buyout will break even in 15-20 years. So what I'm wondering here is American Tower trying to pull their bluff on saying they will "look for alternative sites" ? I don

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The tower companies are getting squeezed hard by the cell carriers. If American can’t cut back what they are charging Verizon it's pretty likely Verizon will move off the site. That might be hard to do but big companies often fail to look at what it will cost them to replace it at any given

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Carl Peterson
I'd look carefully at where VZN is in its small cell deployment in that market. They are pulling off of a lot of the higher priced real estate in areas where the small cell network is complete. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:23 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > The tower companies are getting squeezed hard

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Bill Prince
I wonder what the markup is between ATC and VZW? If you could negotiate directly with VZW you might be able to get terms equal to what you're getting now by eliminating the middleman. The only issue will be what you end up absorbing in terms of site maintenance.

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Carl, This is the only "LTE" tower verizon has for at least 5 miles in all directions. They have another tower outside of town about 2 miles away and I don't think it is LTE as it was from the old 1x days. I doubt they could get downtown coverage from that with LTE and get any speed at all. The pr

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Robert
We drove 1.5 hrs to a town with no reported infections ( yeah lot of bs that is ) and were shopping is a safeway for 15 minutes, the safeway had all the precautions and people wiping stuff down.   Then some lady without a mask ( this is in California where masks are supposed to be required ) st

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Carl Peterson
Kurt, I don't know what city you are talking about, but building out on every pole is exactly what VZN/Crown are doing elsewhere. Like literally every 400' or so. Cities can't stop them from deploying small cell but might slow them down. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:45 AM Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
What everyone tries not to talk about is there’s evidently not that much a hospital can do. If you just need IV fluids and oxygen, sure. But if you need one of those ventilators, the prognosis is grim. It sounds like the survival rate for people who are intubated is somewhere in the 20 to 40%

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Unacast

2020-04-08 Thread Brian Webster
Google is not the only player in the geolocation data collection business. Ever notice how many apps now required you to turn on locations services to function? There are other massive databases built that offer the data for sale. It’s not cheap by most that I have looked in to. Thank you,

[AFMUG] OT Movie Pass

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
I finally sold my movie pass stock. 2 shares. $.0002 per share. Surprised they filled the order...-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Pass

2020-04-08 Thread Robert Andrews
Who dod you trade through that it didn't cost you more than the result? On 04/08/2020 10:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I finally sold my movie pass stock. 2 shares. $.0002 per share. Surprised they filled the order... -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Pass

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
Fidelity. Probably did cost me more than the trade but I wanted it removed from my account. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:33 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Pass Who dod you trade through that it didn't cost you more th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Pass

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Pass

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
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Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Well the landlord is getting $1150.00/month now and ATC is trying to re-negotiate it down to $700.00. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:57 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Kurt, > > I don't know what city you are talking about, but building out on every > pole is exactly what VZN/Crown are doing elsewhere. L

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/8/20 11:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Well the landlord is getting  $1150.00/month now and ATC is trying to re-negotiate it down to $700.00. I wonder what they're paying ATC. There's a VZ built site here in Reno on a hill that VZ is paying the property owner $4,000/mo for. -- AF mailin

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
If this is the only tower space in the area, where are AT&T and T-Mobile? Why has AT only been able to get one tenant? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 1:12 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegoti

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
Lots of things to talk about here but lets hit the high points. Tower companies are getting squeezed by carriers. 1. First I'll say I really don't like term escalations, I favor annual. Since they are already trying to back down their costs that one is a non starter but we can get back to

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-08 Thread SmarterBroadband
Hi Tushar We have one. Works well. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 3:41 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? Time has come for us to get a little more accur

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Brian Webster
Lewis covers a lot of the points I would. I have done some consulting for a university that was approached similarly. The tower company was fixated on some parts of the lease but never focused on things like escalations and such. We did the amortizations of the escalators and they still over

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Cameron Crum
There is an antibody test now available and a lab in town here doing it. Priority is given to first responders, and it's already a month out. However, I read an article yesterday that had lots of info on how the virus acts and they were saying ventilators may be making it worse. Apparently, the vir

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
https://kvia.com/your-voice-your-vote/politics/2020/04/08/cnn-poll-majority-of-americans-now-say-the-federal-government-has-done-a-poor-job-of-preventing-coronavirus-spread/?fbclid=IwAR0UNYN4lz7YUfj1mKlgKXQk1_7ETsC6jQwsLNIJ3-Qto3ZnT1cJb_uh_Eg On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 7:44 PM wrote: > Put on gloves a

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 60ghz

2020-04-08 Thread Nate Burke
Do you remember when it was coming out? I thought it was supposed to be just a month or 2. Or was it Q3/4? On 4/7/2020 8:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm pretty confident they priced 2-3 models for the 60 GHz stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 13

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
It’s so strange that some people are asymptomatic. Yet for many people the symptoms are terrible and go on for a long time. Like Chris Cuomo has described (not sure why he’s still on TV). Or I read that Amy Klobuchar’s husband had to go to the hospital when he started puking up blood. It can

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
Sounds like the Andromeda Strain to me. Anyone got any squeeze to drink? From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 2:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks There is an antibody test now available and a lab in town here doing it. Priority is given to

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Great movie...watch the trailer...see anything familiar? https://youtu.be/TL3LXKanzds On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 3:45 PM wrote: > Sounds like the Andromeda Strain to me. Anyone got any squeeze to drink? > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 2:51 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread dave
Yeah it sucks getting old :) On 4/7/20 8:43 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Put on gloves and a mask to pick up a few things at the grocery store.  Walked in and there was a construction worker in a mask, then a soccer mom then a skinny redneck, with his skinny redneck wife.  Started clucking

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Bill Prince
Some of the analysis I've been reading has speculated that there is some genetic component to this; sort of like HIV does not affect approximately 20% of the population who have a certain genetic mutation. There is a growing consensus that the pneumonia is only on

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread dave
Once an assclown always an asshat :) On 4/7/20 10:25 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: I would have probably said something like "I'm wearing this for *your* benefit *not* mine.   Don't call me a chicken for protecting your life.". On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 8:23 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Robert
The failure by age of most N95 masks has to do with the rubber bands that hold them on.  It's such a simple failure and so fixable with a touch of ingenuity...   Buy a bunch of bungy cord and take it apart for the strings of rubber... On 4/8/20 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: It’s so strange that

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Bill Prince
Could also just use a nylon strap. Those would probably last longer than the mask. bp On 4/8/2020 3:05 PM, Robert wrote: The failure by age of most N95 masks has to do with the rubber bands that hold them on.  It's such a simple failur

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Robert
Michael Crichton must be spinning in his grave... On 4/8/20 2:50 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Great movie...watch the trailer...see anything familiar? https://youtu.be/TL3LXKanzds On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 3:45 PM > wrote: Sounds like the Andromeda Strain to me.   Anyone go

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
Jaime, At the risk of breaking Lent, you gotta steel yourself man. Just like learning a dear friend or relative has a terminal illness, you have to mentally prepare for 4 more years of a “very stable genius” with the “best words”. Sorry dude... I am a Romney man... (But to address the lin

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
Maybe not South Korea so much. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks Jaime, At the risk of breaking Lent, you gotta steel yourself man. Just like learning a dear friend or relative has a terminal illnes

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m starting to think if I get sent to the hospital I need to try and make clear I don’t want to be intubated. https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/ From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:53 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Su

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 60ghz

2020-04-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I thought i seen something like 500 meters max distance with the higher gain CPE and the lower gain CPE was like 250'ish meters. I could be wrong. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:35 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Do you remember when it was coming out? I thought it was supposed to be > just a month or 2. Or

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 60ghz

2020-04-08 Thread Nate Burke
That sounds about right, I have the perfect application for this, just wondering how soon I can get it. On 4/8/2020 6:02 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I thought i seen something like 500 meters max distance with the higher gain CPE and the lower gain CPE was like 250'ish meters. I could be wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
Does not sound pleasant. And if it makes things worse... Maybe they will have one of those plastic diving bell things instead. Or does that make it worse too? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 5:00 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks I’m st

[AFMUG] OT some relief

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
My favorite local art house has started streaming all their films now. At least I can pretend to be downtown at the movies now. They have the odd quirky stuff, many sundance winners. Sometimes their quirky stuff goes national, like Napoleon Dynamite. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http

[AFMUG] OT SLFS Showtimes 4/10 - 4/16

2020-04-08 Thread chuck
Actually I guess you all can see them now too. It appears they may be screening films by the times below. I am pretty sure SLC has shut down theaters. From: Rachel Getts Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:54 PM To: Rachel Getts Subject: SLFS Showtimes 4/10 - 4/16 Please Note: These films are

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 60ghz

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Q3 2020. Apply the fudge factor of your choice. Maybe email Allen Yu and ask when they will be available for preorder. Maybe get in on a beta? One of the products they said was pushed out a few months due to supply chain disruption, but I don't remember which. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Interesting how low O2 might not be as bad as the numbers say because CO2 is also low. And that just oxygen through those little tubes in your nose with no pressure might be just as good or better. I think we treat doctors like infallible gods. I used to believe everything they said. Over

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Robert
But the whole world hasn't miffed this thing..   S. Korea, N. Korea, New Zealand, Arab States, partially Japan, some of the russian federation states, all managed to deal with it up front. IF you got out in front of it, it was manageable.. On 4/8/20 3:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Jaime, At t

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
The key to the next phase is testing, and we’re still not out in front of it. I’m hearing people saying maybe the time to test for who has it has passed and we can’t get that toothpaste back in the tube, that was for a containment strategy, and as you say we missed the window for that. But t

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Bill Prince
There's a reason they call it "practicing medicine". bp On 4/8/2020 4:49 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Interesting how low O2 might not be as bad as the numbers say because CO2 is also low.  And that just ox

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
My experience with doctor are they are, on average, not all that intelligent although willing to work long hours and put of reward now for lots more later. They also sick at praying there bills. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 6:50 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Interesting how low O2 might not be as bad as the nu

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 60ghz

2020-04-08 Thread Mike Meluskey
Or buy some Ignitenet…..it just works. On 8 Apr 2020, at 19:39, Ken Hohhof wrote: Q3 2020. Apply the fudge factor of your choice. Maybe email Allen Yu and ask when they will be available for preorder. Maybe get in on a beta? One of the products they said was pushed out a few months due t

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Bill Prince
I can beat your November 2019 with this excerpt from an interview with Anthony Fauci from a year ago. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dr-fauci-has-been-dreading-a-pandemic-like-covid-19-for-years/ bp On 4/8/2020 2:30 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-08 Thread Steve Jones
Got a brand new one sitting at the office in a sweet pelican case. Borrowed one, in 10 seconds we knew we were buying it. On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 5:41 PM Tushar Patel wrote: > Time has come for us to get a little more accuracy on our sector antennas. > > > > Any input on the following product? > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT masks

2020-04-08 Thread Steve Jones
Tons of tin foil in this thread, not often, if ever, I stop reading an afmug thread On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 7:38 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I can beat your November 2019 with this excerpt from an interview with > Anthony Fauci from a year ago. > > > https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dr-fauci-has-be

Re: [AFMUG] OT some relief

2020-04-08 Thread Steve Jones
There's a roku channel with nothing but that. Dont recall what its called, tons of hidden gems though On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 6:26 PM wrote: > My favorite local art house has started streaming all their films now. > At least I can pretend to be downtown at the movies now. > > They have the odd quir

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wow, you got the boss to spring for a $5,999 tool? Did you use Jedi mind tricks? On their web page they have a photo of it being used on what looks like an omni. How do you aim an omni? Or is that actually multiple sectors in a can or something? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-08 Thread Steve Jones
Yep, that and the optic. I thought about using it on an omni we are putting up just for super accurate gps and roll and to take a wtf pic GME does a fair price on it. We decided to do our own bracket for dish alignments. We figure getting the first side 99 percent dialed in then going to the othe

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-08 Thread Steve Jones
If you can find one someone will let you borrow, you will see. The guy that let me borrow his let me have it for two weeks. But that was at the beginning of the end of the world, he picked it up last week. We actually only used it at one site. Ease of use was important. I had the two techs watch th

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower trying to renegotiate Tower Lease with landlord

2020-04-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Brian, Do you have any links to the federal law requiring another tower be allowed to be built in lieu of the zoning? Thanks. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:54 PM Brian Webster wrote: > Lewis covers a lot of the points I would. > > > > I have done some consulting for a university that was approached