Kurt, I don't know what city you are talking about, but building out on every pole is exactly what VZN/Crown are doing elsewhere. Like literally every 400' or so. Cities can't stop them from deploying small cell but might slow them down.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:45 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Carl, > > This is the only "LTE" tower verizon has for at least 5 miles in all > directions. They have another tower outside of town about 2 miles away and > I don't think it is LTE as it was from the old 1x days. I doubt they could > get downtown coverage from that with LTE and get any speed at all. The > problem is they can't just build another tower downtown because the zoning > is so restrictive that no new towers can be built. Unless they plan on > rolling out a ton of 5G sites on Telephone poles I don't see theme getting > the coverage they have today. And there are no tall buildings around either. > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote: > >> I'd look carefully at where VZN is in its small cell deployment in >> that market. They are pulling off of a lot of the higher priced real >> estate in areas where the small cell network is complete. >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:23 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >> >>> The tower companies are getting squeezed hard by the cell carriers. If >>> American can’t cut back what they are charging Verizon it's pretty likely >>> Verizon will move off the site. That might be hard to do but big >>> companies often fail to look at what it will cost them to replace it at any >>> given site. They may very well have a blanket contract with another tower >>> provider that says they can order them up where they want and it’s the >>> other companies problem to figure out how to do it. >>> >>> As far as buyout or renegotiate - really depends on the owner and what >>> they value more. Stable income, or a one-time payout. Plenty of >>> municipalities can’t resist the up front cash since it makes the current >>> politicians look good and don’t worry about the fact that they screwed the >>> taxpayers for the next 100 years. The other party will be in power by the >>> time the money is spent so I guess it doesn’t matter. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> > On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote: >>> > >>> > On 4/8/20 9:04 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >>> >> Both those offers are less than what the current lease payments are, >>> the one time buyout will break even in 15-20 years. So what I'm wondering >>> here is American Tower trying to pull their bluff on saying they will "look >>> for alternative sites" ? >>> >> I don't really see them going through all the hassle to build another >>> site close to this one just to get a $400 cheaper/per month payment. >>> Verizon really needs this site downtown because there are no other towers >>> close to it and the city zoning is so strict that no new towers can be >>> built. >>> >> Any tips for dealing with the tower owner? >>> > >>> > >>> > Offer it to Verizon if ATC wants out of the lease? It seems unlikely >>> that ATC is going to pay all of VZ's costs to move everything. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > AF@af.afmug.com >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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