Sounds like the Andromeda Strain to me. Anyone got any squeeze to drink?
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 2:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
There is an antibody test now available and a lab in town here doing it.
Priority is given to first responders, and it's already a month out. However, I
read an article yesterday that had lots of info on how the virus acts and they
were saying ventilators may be making it worse. Apparently, the virus latches
on to the heme in your hemoglobin in your red cells, disassociating the toxic
oxidative iron ion that attracts the O2. This prevents O2 from bonding to the
red blood cells. To make matters worse, it is a permanent condition and the
only fix is generating or introducing new red blood cells that can carry
oxygen. Your kidneys start producing erythropoietin which tells your bone
marrow to start ramping up production. That toxic iron now running around
overwhelms the epithelial surface of the lungs which usually takes care of this
stuff when it occurs naturally. This leads to damage and inflammation in the
lungs, not pneumonia. So, now your liver kicks up its iron storage capability
but soon gets overwhelmed and starts releasing ALT which is a cry for help. At
that point, it is almost too late. If you bone marrow can't produce new red
cells faster than the virus attacks them, it's all over. No amount of forcing
air into the lungs will help. Providing pure oxygen like in a hyperbaric
chamber may, but direct blood transfusions with healthy red cells is the best
chance as there are not a lot of hyperbaric chambers around. So,
Hydroxychloroquine works the same way it does on malaria (which by the way
attacks hemoglobin as well), by preventing the virus from attaching to the
hemoglobin. It also lowers the blood pH helping to stop the replication of the
virus. If you can keep your cells carrying oxygen and slow down virus
replication, Your body can probably handle the rest.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:15 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
What everyone tries not to talk about is there’s evidently not that much a
hospital can do. If you just need IV fluids and oxygen, sure. But if you need
one of those ventilators, the prognosis is grim. It sounds like the survival
rate for people who are intubated is somewhere in the 20 to 40% range.
Obviously if the hospitals get overrun, now you get Italy, where the
mortality fate even for non-Covid cases skyrockets.
I’m agreeing with you here, but we’re buying time until (a) universal testing
(b) testing to see who has recovered and has at least temporary immunity, (c)
new therapies being tested that could be more effective than ventilators, and
(d) a vaccine.
BTW, the TV news was just talking about Los Angeles where businesses can now
refuse to serve people not wearing masks, to protect frontline workers in
essential businesses. Reporter in the field said he observed people talking
loudly about people NOT wearing masks.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
We drove 1.5 hrs to a town with no reported infections ( yeah lot of bs that
is ) and were shopping is a safeway for 15 minutes, the safeway had all the
precautions and people wiping stuff down. Then some lady without a mask (
this is in California where masks are supposed to be required ) started hacking
up a lung right by the checkout counters, 1/2 way into her bare elbow. It was
pretty obvious that this wasn't an ordinary coughing fit. We were all decked
out in PPE but that drove home decontaminating when we got home. But the wife
doesn't get it. 8/10's isn't good enough. We are going to come down with it
somewhere along the line. It's certain. Just hope it is after the hospitals
are past the worst point so that we can get taken care of instead of triaged.
So I will stay away and hope that I don't get someone else sick...
On 4/7/20 7:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
No, sorry. The redneck and his woman were not wearing masks.
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
Very confused by this story. Other people wearing masks made fun of you
wearing a mask?
On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Put on gloves and a mask to pick up a few things at the grocery store.
Walked in and there was a construction worker in a mask, then a soccer mom....
then a skinny redneck, with his skinny redneck wife. Started clucking like a
chicken when he saw me and his wife was taking a video. Was not quite calling
me a chicken loud enough that I could clearly make out exactly what he was
doing, but was grandstanding for his skanky woman....
Funny how fast my natural pugilistic nature of my youth sprung into
action. I literally had to stop myself from backing him into a display of pork
and beans with some comments of “you got a problem with me”. Visions of a
throat punch were clear in my head...
But I calmed myself, reminded myself that going to jail or the ER or a
dentist would not be fun this evening, and moved alone. Ran into a handful of
other chickens on the way out the store.
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