Michael Crichton must be spinning in his grave...
On 4/8/20 2:50 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Great movie...watch the trailer...see anything familiar?
https://youtu.be/TL3LXKanzds
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 3:45 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Sounds like the Andromeda Strain to me. Anyone got any squeeze
to drink?
*From:* Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 2:51 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
There is an antibody test now available and a lab in town here
doing it. Priority is given to first responders, and it's already
a month out. However, I read an article yesterday that had lots of
info on how the virus acts and they were saying ventilators may be
making it worse. Apparently, the virus latches on to the heme in
your hemoglobin in your red cells, disassociating the toxic
oxidative iron ion that attracts the O2. This prevents O2 from
bonding to the red blood cells. To make matters worse, it is a
permanent condition and the only fix is generating or introducing
new red blood cells that can carry oxygen. Your kidneys start
producing erythropoietin which tells your bone marrow to start
ramping up production. That toxic iron now running around
overwhelms the epithelial surface of the lungs which usually takes
care of this stuff when it occurs naturally. This leads to damage
and inflammation in the lungs, not pneumonia. So, now your liver
kicks up its iron storage capability but soon gets overwhelmed and
starts releasing ALT which is a cry for help. At that point, it is
almost too late. If you bone marrow can't produce new red cells
faster than the virus attacks them, it's all over. No amount of
forcing air into the lungs will help. Providing pure oxygen like
in a hyperbaric chamber may, but direct blood transfusions with
healthy red cells is the best chance as there are not a lot of
hyperbaric chambers around. So, Hydroxychloroquine works the same
way it does on malaria (which by the way attacks hemoglobin as
well), by preventing the virus from attaching to the hemoglobin.
It also lowers the blood pH helping to stop the replication of the
virus. If you can keep your cells carrying oxygen and slow down
virus replication, Your body can probably handle the rest.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:15 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
What everyone tries not to talk about is there’s evidently not
that much a hospital can do. If you just need IV fluids and
oxygen, sure. But if you need one of those ventilators, the
prognosis is grim. It sounds like the survival rate for
people who are intubated is somewhere in the 20 to 40% range.
Obviously if the hospitals get overrun, now you get Italy,
where the mortality fate even for non-Covid cases skyrockets.
I’m agreeing with you here, but we’re buying time until (a)
universal testing (b) testing to see who has recovered and has
at least temporary immunity, (c) new therapies being tested
that could be more effective than ventilators, and (d) a vaccine.
BTW, the TV news was just talking about Los Angeles where
businesses can now refuse to serve people not wearing masks,
to protect frontline workers in essential businesses.
Reporter in the field said he observed people talking loudly
about people NOT wearing masks.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:46 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
We drove 1.5 hrs to a town with no reported infections ( yeah
lot of bs that is ) and were shopping is a safeway for 15
minutes, the safeway had all the precautions and people wiping
stuff down. Then some lady without a mask ( this is in
California where masks are supposed to be required ) started
hacking up a lung right by the checkout counters, 1/2 way into
her bare elbow. It was pretty obvious that this wasn't an
ordinary coughing fit. We were all decked out in PPE but that
drove home decontaminating when we got home. But the wife
doesn't get it. 8/10's isn't good enough. We are going to
come down with it somewhere along the line. It's certain.
Just hope it is after the hospitals are past the worst point
so that we can get taken care of instead of triaged. So I
will stay away and hope that I don't get someone else sick...
On 4/7/20 7:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
No, sorry. The redneck and his woman were not wearing masks.
*From:*Matt Hoppes
*Sent:*Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:11 PM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
Very confused by this story. Other people wearing masks
made fun of you wearing a mask?
On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com>
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Put on gloves and a mask to pick up a few things at
the grocery store. Walked in and there was a
construction worker in a mask, then a soccer mom....
then a skinny redneck, with his skinny redneck wife.
Started clucking like a chicken when he saw me and his
wife was taking a video. Was not quite calling me a
chicken loud enough that I could clearly make out
exactly what he was doing, but was grandstanding for
his skanky woman....
Funny how fast my natural pugilistic nature of my
youth sprung into action. I literally had to stop
myself from backing him into a display of pork and
beans with some comments of “you got a problem with
me”. Visions of a throat punch were clear in my head...
But I calmed myself, reminded myself that going to
jail or the ER or a dentist would not be fun this
evening, and moved alone. Ran into a handful of other
chickens on the way out the store.
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