Re: [AFMUG] 450m "MUX Gain"

2020-03-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
yes Mark > On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > In the Cambium capacity planner you can set a "MUX Gain" value to account for > MU-MIMO. It seems to simply multiply the system capacity by the MUX gain. > The default value is 3.0. > > Has anyone experienced an actual trippli

Re: [AFMUG] 450m "MUX Gain"

2020-03-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Ok cool. On 3/25/2020 8:46 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: yes Mark On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: In the Cambium capacity planner you can set a "MUX Gain" value to account for MU-MIMO. It seems to simply multiply the system capacity by the MUX gain. The default value is 3.0

[AFMUG] Announcement: TC New Feature

2020-03-25 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
We have finished another feature update. You have requested that we e-mail customers when the submit a EUS to you to inform them that you have received the data. We have added a customer notification section. Visit Account -> EUS settings and then click on Customer Notification. Check the box, a

[AFMUG] Android Tablet

2020-03-25 Thread Matt
Can anyone recommend a cost effective android tablet that wont fall apart? I love my iPad but bit expensive to throw around in work vehicle. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Android Tablet

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I can't from personal experience, but my son has a Samsung Galaxy Tab, I don't know which model, it's 1-2 years old. I know he falls asleep a lot and it drops on the floor so it must not be very fragile. Only complaint is the speaker volume only goes as high as adequate, you're not going to have

Re: [AFMUG] Android Tablet

2020-03-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I love my surface. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I can't from personal experience, but my son has a Samsung Galaxy Tab, I > don't know which model, it's 1-2 years old. I know he falls asleep a lot > and it drops on the floor so it must not be very fr

Re: [AFMUG] Android Tablet

2020-03-25 Thread Bill Prince
Get a cheap Chromebook convertible. It operates as a tablet if you want, or as a laptop if you need a keyboard. If you're sitting around, you can put it in tent mode and set it on a table. Maybe a bit heavier than a plain tablet, but a lot more screen too. bp On 3/25/2020 7:44 AM, Ken Hohho

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Jay Weekley
What frequencies does it support? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: How do they charge for it? Can you do work for the next guy over? *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat I would bet they would be able to get somet

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5 Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > > What frequencies does it support? > > ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> How do they charge for it? Can you do work for the ne

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Jay Weekley
Thanks. I'm watching an old webinar where only 5GHz and 3.5 GHz was supported. 900 was on the road map. Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5 Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Wee

Re: [AFMUG] 450m "MUX Gain"

2020-03-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm assuming 7x is maximum - that's probably not realistic, but I think someone in Texas got pretty close. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Ok cool. > > On 3/25/2020 8:46 AM, Mar

[AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

2020-03-25 Thread chuck
Nate, I am posting this to the list too. Want to see if I made a mistake here. I don't have a ton of experience with the internals of the AF11. I think each diplexer feeds a TX and an RX right? Not sure how good the RX input filters are. So I used a splitter rather than circulators. Circula

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

2020-03-25 Thread chuck
Now that I think about it, this will not work without sharp bandpass filters on the transmitters. To do what I have drawn here without the filters you would need a hybrid combiner on the TX and you will lose another 3 dB in that. So 6 dB loss over all from one end to the other. -Original M

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

2020-03-25 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Yeah your insertion loss is going to kill the performance of the link, why may I ask are you trying to do this other than the obvious reason of not wanting to hang 2 antennas. Why not just get a more efficient radio for the link like Aviat? We just bough our first aviat link to replace an AF11 link

Re: [AFMUG] 450m "MUX Gain"

2020-03-25 Thread Carl Peterson
4X is a reasonable urban multiplier with good spacing. We are using them as on overlay to offload capacity so we can pick and choose clients to move over and spread them across the sector. On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:02 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > In the Cambium capacity planner you can set a "MUX

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

2020-03-25 Thread chuck
This is the hybrid combiner version. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:06 PM To: Nate Burke ; af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: AF11 custom combiner Now that I think about it, this will not work without sharp bandpass filters on the transmitters. To

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

2020-03-25 Thread chuck
He can’t hang another antenna. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner Yeah your insertion loss is going to kill the performance of the link, why may I ask are you trying to do this other than

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner

2020-03-25 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
can he "replace" an existing antenna with a different one? On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 3:19 PM wrote: > He can’t hang another antenna. > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:11 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 custom combiner > > Ye

Re: [AFMUG] 450m "MUX Gain"

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Vaguely related, is anyone else having trouble with CRC errors on their 450m’s? Or is everyone using fiber? I saw a forum post somewhere from someone claiming there was a problem between Mikrotik CCRs and Cambium 450m’s and that it was just a reporting error not real errors. What I’m talki

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
900 is magic not science. I never felt there was a logical explanation to where it worked and where it didn't. I also believe cnHeat is basically looking for LOS, and if you asked it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the LIDAR data would have to distinguish maples from pines from buildings. -O

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Steve Jones
that would be a discussion to have with them. LOS is the gold standard, and finding a 5x5 patch with it in 30 seconds is amazing. We are 99.9% on pulling the trigger On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > 900 is magic not science. I never felt there was a logical explanation to > w

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Of course that 5x5 patch has to be verified onsite, especially for trees near the site. Stupid trees grow, or blow in the wind. I had a customer once with a windbreak of whatever those really tall skinny trees are, not the evergreens, some kind or poplar or something that grows 5-10 feet pe

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-25 Thread Matt
Has anyone tried the google offering? https://cloud.google.com/voice#pricing We already use google apps but the $20 per user for voice seems high to me. On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:43 PM Matt wrote: > > Right now we have a fortinet phone system with good number of extensions. > Thinking of swit

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
It is high. Obviously we compete with them but looking at it from Google's side I think they sell their deep integration as their main selling point. If you already have G Suite, a Google voice number, run your business off your cell phone, etc, etc,. I think for some it makes sense even if it is h

[AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread chuck
I am trying to get a local rock quarry to go paperless. I suggested they email the scale ticket to the driver. They don’t want to attempt to load in all the different drivers’ cell phone numbers. If there is a way using bluetooth or something to just display the scale info without too much se

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Grain elevators have a big display next to the scale, right next to the truck. Couldn’t the drivers just take a picture with their phone? Oh, and when your email started with rock and paper, I expected scissors next. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread chuck
Hmmm, you need perhaps a bit more than just the gross weight but a large monitor could do the trick. Still, something you have to do... sure be nice to have it pushed to the phone. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 4:42 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread can...@believewireless.net
This should be pretty easy to do. If you can get the data from the scale, you can advertise this info over bluetooth. They can open an app on the phone, connect to the scale and download the info info the app. More advanced would be to have the info uploaded to the cloud with a vehicle ID. The app

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread Bill Prince
If they could print a PDF, they could text it to you. bp On 3/25/2020 3:25 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am trying to get a local rock quarry to go paperless.  I suggested they email the scale ticket to the drive

[AFMUG] OT: Picadillo late lunch

2020-03-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
My wife made picadillo...ground beef, potatoes and her spices. I can taste jalapeno for sure...with cheese and flour tortillas... Good thing I hitting the heavy bag at night .. enjoy -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Jay Weekley
Good point. Ken Hohhof wrote: 900 is magic not science. I never felt there was a logical explanation to where it worked and where it didn't. I also believe cnHeat is basically looking for LOS, and if you asked it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the LIDAR data would have to distinguish maples fr

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread TJ Trout
sounds like a ticket printer is one of the most simple solutions to this problem, maybe make them recycle the paper? You can't get a new ticket until you give back an old one? Would be curious if anyone knows of a solution that a trucker could receive this info, I'm guessing everything besides

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Steve Jones
I'd hope we go onsite. Id pay slot more for cnheat if it did the installs too. Like shoots a rocket from cambium hq, lands on the spot, nanotech installs On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 3:39 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Of course that 5x5 patch has to be verified onsite, especially for trees > near the site. S

[AFMUG] 450 platform and firmware 16.1.1 and 16.1.1.1 frame utilazation issues.

2020-03-25 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Just figured I would throw this on the list its already on the forums but it cost me the better part of the day so here ya go. There is a bug in the 16.1.1 and 16.1.1.1 firmware that causes the frame utilization to peg at or close to 100%. 16.1 works fine. Brandon -- AF mailing list AF

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hey, I asked first for RF goggles and an R2D2 tower monkey, no cutting in line. Oh, and where’s my flying car? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat I'd hope we go onsite. Id pay slot mo

Re: [AFMUG] 450 platform and firmware 16.1.1 and 16.1.1.1 frame utilazation issues.

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
There was something that stopped me from going past 16.0.1.1, I forget what it was. Went to 16.2 betas for CBRS and now on 16.2 final. We just deployed our first 3 GHz 450b and I think we had to use 16.2 for that, even without CBRS. Is there a reason not to just go to 16.2? FYI, the 450b

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread Chuck McCown
They think that is too much effort Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > If they could print a PDF, they could text it to you. > > bp > > > On 3/25/2020 3:25 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> I am trying to get a local rock quarry to go paperless. I sugg

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Seems like we’re overthinking it. What exactly is the problem with the current system? Is it the wasted paper? I think someone suggested recycling the old slips. Maybe they just need a bin for the drivers to throw the old slips in. Look how hard it is to get doctors and lawyers to stop

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Picadillo late lunch

2020-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
That actually looks delicious, and I’m not fond of cabbage. Maybe I should try frying it. And … bacon. I’m OK with red cabbage. https://auntnellies.com/sweet-sour-red-cabbage/ From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

Re: [AFMUG] OT print to a phone

2020-03-25 Thread Timothy Steele
Why not an NFC setup? Have then attache an NFC button to their cell phone case have that NFC programmed to transfer Truck info on tap On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:09 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Seems like we’re overthinking it. What exactly is the problem with the > current system? > > > > Is it t

Re: [AFMUG] 450 platform and firmware 16.1.1 and 16.1.1.1 frame utilazation issues.

2020-03-25 Thread Sean Heskett
so far 16.2 seems very stable and gets rid of all the issues 16.1.X had On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 7:19 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > There was something that stopped me from going past 16.0.1.1, I forget > what it was. Went to 16.2 betas for CBRS and now on 16.2 final. We just > deployed our first 3 GH