900 is magic not science. I never felt there was a logical explanation to where it worked and where it didn't. I also believe cnHeat is basically looking for LOS, and if you asked it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the LIDAR data would have to distinguish maples from pines from buildings.
-----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat Thanks. I'm watching an old webinar where only 5GHz and 3.5 GHz was supported. 900 was on the road map. Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5 > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > >> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >> >> What frequencies does it support? >> >> ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> How do they charge for it? Can you do work for the next guy over? >>> *From:* Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat >>> I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never know if >>> you don't ask. I know one isp in the same boat, 150 towers, lots of hills, >>> I can see the price being too high. But the other part where they help >>> identify best locations to cover from may be worth it. Less towers and more >>> coverage is always good. Planting people seeds would be good too. But >>> they're hard to keep watered. >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:50 PM SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: >>> >>> I would love to give it a go. But the pricing model of per site >>> does not work for us. We have to have many small sites because of >>> hills and trees , over 90 currently. I can see if you had a few >>> mega sites it could make sense. >>> >>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:15 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat >>> >>> much much more than free >>> >>> but much much less input and much much much more output >>> >>> I had the same question, and skepticism, until i saw the data and >>> applied it to our real world. >>> >>> The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A no line of site >>> generates zero, so thats a wash on its face. but the truck rolled >>> and other jobs werent done, so theres a net loss. that in itself >>> probably scales to the price over the course of the customer we >>> missed. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> What does it cost? More than Radio Mobile...? >>> >>> *From:*Steve Jones >>> >>> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM >>> >>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> *Subject:*[AFMUG] CNHeat >>> >>> I dont know if many of you degenerates over here still do this >>> pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is a literal >>> game changer, we took a no line of site this morning to >>> install. we would have walked away, btu happened to have the >>> CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great signal (we >>> actually missed it because walking the roof and the scan time >>> didnt grab it) >>> >>> there was a marginal spot we considered, this would have been >>> bad long term. >>> >>> we went through migrating a few hundred customers off 320 to >>> EPMp the last few months, this would have been a godsend, half >>> of them will need to be revisited in spring when leaves come >>> out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make room for 450 >>> cbrs stuff >>> >>> your installer can walk out the door each morning with a >>> picture and have a best location target, install survey times >>> will be minimized and youll know youre well beyond first good >>> spot, and on the probably best spot. >>> >>> I dont come across a product im this excited about too often. >>> If I had the time id go look at the last years NLOS and see >>> where we missed revenue options. And this is just IDENTIFY the >>> other two components are crazy perfect too >>> >>> like anything, youll need to know how to look at the data, and >>> its only as good as the data you put in, I think we are all >>> familiar with that here. >>> >>> This is nowhere near free, but i think abut how much less I >>> can do on my Access points because of marginal installs, and >>> how much we have lost in NLOS that didnt need to be >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >> -- >> *Jay Weekley* >> *Cyber Broadband >> * >> >> -- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
