Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread Cameron Crum
That is where you provide one last piece of help in packing her bag and then booting her out the door. I have personal experience with this. Sometimes sink or swim is the only course of action and in some cases, there is no saving them. On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:23 PM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Some eligible disabilities would be very easy to fake. Agoraphobia for example. I have no data on how prevalent such fakery really is.  Different political groups will tell us different stories on that...but it's certainly not hard to do. An average disability payment is $1258/month (anywher

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Oh I forgot about section 8 HUD housingwhat they call "projects" in the city.  You'll get help with rent, but you have to live in a property which is participating in the HUD program, so you may have to be willing to live in a ghetto.  Some of those ghetto properties are in such high demand

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Well, here is a great discussion on the Subject of Disability, unemployment, and the fleecing we are getting It is an NPR article so I doubt many would call it conservatively biased. The fact is, when people run out of other types of programs, like welfare, th

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread Carl Peterson
It is hard to separate the chaff from the wheat. The same goes for corporate bailouts and interest free money. Some might actually be needed, but plenty of it goes straight into the pockets of shareholders in the from of stock buyback or is lent right back to the treasury (buying up government de

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread chuck
Several years back, NPR – possibly This American Life – had l long bit about a company that is paid by the Guvmnt to help people qualify for disability. In other words to find any trick possible to get them on disability. Fascinating. Tax dollars at work. Found it. An excerpt: "Just out

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread Carl Peterson
That's from the article Lewis posted above my comment... On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:33 AM wrote: > Several years back, NPR – possibly This American Life – had l long bit > about a company that is paid by the Guvmnt to help people qualify for > disability. In other words to find any trick possib

[AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp

2020-03-24 Thread dave
Hey to the borg! Does anyone know the Fiber company in florida that has won a few grants for doing fiber. For the life of me cannot remember his name but I would see him at wispapalooza every year and I think he was at an Animal farm show as well. Thank you -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.

[AFMUG] CNMaestro Defaulting EPMP AP

2020-03-24 Thread Nate Burke
I have used CNMaestro before, mainly for controlling E4XX AP's, but I'm just starting to get back into it now for more network management/upgrades. I was adding one of my EPMP sites in and upgrading firmware via CNMaestro. One of the 4 AP's at a site reset itself to Default when the firmware

Re: [AFMUG] CNMaestro Defaulting EPMP AP

2020-03-24 Thread dave
I had seen this very same thing.. What I found out was the firmware on the ap was in the 2.6 range and jumping to 3.56 I believe may have caused the hiccup. Not 100% on that but it was the only thing I could see that was different because the others had 3.15 on them On 3/24/20 11:56 AM, Nate

[AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
I dont know if many of you degenerates over here still do this pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is a literal game changer, we took a no line of site this morning to install. we would have walked away, btu happened to have the CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great signal (we

Re: [AFMUG] CNMaestro Defaulting EPMP AP

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
I wonder if you did them all at once if the other three coming up disnt current draw your power source and convince the AP that the power sequence had been triggered On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:03 PM dave wrote: > I had seen this very same thing.. What I found out was the firmware on the > ap was

Re: [AFMUG] CNMaestro Defaulting EPMP AP

2020-03-24 Thread Nate Burke
It looks like you can't connect a new device to CNMaestro unless it's a minimum 3.5.6, so I have to manually upgrade everything to get it to that point to enter it in. Interesting is that radios running 3.5.1 that were already in CNMaestro are still connected and can be upgraded. On 3/24/2020

Re: [AFMUG] OT People

2020-03-24 Thread chuck
Didn’t notice it was a link. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT People That's from the article Lewis posted above my comment... On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:33 AM wrote: Several years back, NPR – possibly

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread chuck
What does it cost? More than Radio Mobile...? From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] CNHeat I dont know if many of you degenerates over here still do this pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is a literal game

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
much much more than free but much much less input and much much much more output I had the same question, and skepticism, until i saw the data and applied it to our real world. The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A no line of site generates zero, so thats a wash on its face. but the truc

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
In your land of deserts and plains overlooked by mountains you might not need to pay for CnHeat. In lands where trees grow CnHeat is free.  Paid for by the new customers and time saved. It's not a statistical Langley-Rice prediction like Radio Mobile.  Obstructions are treated like an impene

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread chuck
I hope this proves to be true for all the data points it discovers. I don’t doubt Steve’s experience, but it is one data point so far. If this works well it will be a hugely valuable tool. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:21 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHe

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Brian Webster
What data are they using to model the trees? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat In your land of deserts and plains ov

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Ray Savich via AF
Sounds great Steve – can you post your story and photos/screen shots to the Cambium Community? http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ Thanks Ray [cid:image002.jpg@01D601DE.2459A2F0] From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Su

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp

2020-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Mark Myakkka (or something like that)? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "dave" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:47:38 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp

2020-03-24 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp That fits my description, what's up? -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 12:47:38 PM, you wrote: Hey to the borg! Does anyone know the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp

2020-03-24 Thread Mike Hammett
What an unfortunate typo... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:18:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: From our kitchen to yours

2020-03-24 Thread chuck
At least I got a homemade shrimp quesadilla this morning... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: From our kitchen to yours Chilaquiles y huevo.. Corn tortillas, cheese, enchilada sauce, cooking oil...(optional- whi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp

2020-03-24 Thread dave
yES! I Believe you are it.. On 3/24/20 1:27 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Looking for a wisp That fits my description, what's up? -- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Tuesday, March 24,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: From our kitchen to yours

2020-03-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Never tried that...maybe on Friday... On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 12:33 PM wrote: > At least I got a homemade shrimp quesadilla this morning... > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:40 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: From our kitchen to you

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
Our LIDAR data is fairly recent, it is dependent on that... see how I talk about LIDAR like a champ now because of that previous thread. He was able to tell me when it was obtained, and apparently our area was easy to get, the CNHeat guy knows way more about all that than I do. Showing this to the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Bill Prince
They were interviewing someone from the Russian Health Ministry (or something like that) on NPR yesterday. The person stated that Russia had a natural immunity to this virus because they are so sparsely populated and people don't travel much. That said, 90

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
It's because they're constantly soaked in Vodka On 3/24/2020 3:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: They were interviewing someone from the Russian Health Ministry (or something like that) on NPR yesterday. The person stated that Russia had a natural immunity to this virus because they are so sparsely

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Bill Prince
120 proof. bp On 3/24/2020 12:14 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: It's because they're constantly soaked in Vodka On 3/24/2020 3:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: They were interviewing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Robert
Heavy drinking lowers your immunity...  fact. On 3/24/20 12:14 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: It's because they're constantly soaked in Vodka On 3/24/2020 3:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: They were interviewing someone from the Russian Health Ministry (or something like that) on NPR yesterday. The per

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
90% of sarcasm is lost when delivered in text form ... fact. On 3/24/2020 3:25 PM, Robert wrote: Heavy drinking lowers your immunity...  fact. On 3/24/20 12:14 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: It's because they're constantly soaked in Vodka On 3/24/2020 3:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: They were interv

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
If this were true, I would have died from the common cold years ago On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 2:26 PM Robert wrote: > Heavy drinking lowers your immunity... fact. > > On 3/24/20 12:14 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > It's because they're constantly soaked in Vodka > On 3/24/2020 3:07 PM, Bill Prince wro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Matt Hoppes
They shot their one and only infected person. On 3/19/20 2:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering up.  Especially in the labor camps.  Communal sleeping barns etc.  No sanitation facilities. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, Marc

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Matt Hoppes
Regarding the China numbers... there are 3 Chinese mobile telephone companies, all owned by the government. In February, they reported a TOTAL (all 3) loss of 10 million + lines. Now, you can attribute some of those to job loss... but not all of them. Deaths? I suspect the death count in China

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Source for this info? On 3/24/2020 4:14 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Regarding the China numbers... there are 3 Chinese mobile telephone companies, all owned by the government. In February, they reported a TOTAL (all 3) loss of 10 million + lines. Now, you can attribute some of those to job loss...

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
so you dont trust chinas health numbers, but you do trust chinas mobile numbers? please provide a link to the related links to documentation of the 10 million lines dropped On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:15 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Regarding the China numbers... th

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread John Seaman via AF
Here is a really good youtube demo of cnHeat, presented by a wisp operator, Joseph Glende of Hiawatha Broadband: https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/cnHeat/Joseph-Glende-of-Hiawatha-Broadband-Shares-How-cnHeat-Helping/td-p/116220 From: AF On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Tuesday, March 24

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
Thanks On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 4:04 PM John Seaman via AF wrote: > Here is a really good youtube demo of cnHeat, presented by a wisp > operator, Joseph Glende of Hiawatha Broadband: > > > https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/cnHeat/Joseph-Glende-of-Hiawatha-Broadband-Shares-How-cnHeat-Helping/

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
I would love to give it a go. But the pricing model of per site does not work for us. We have to have many small sites because of hills and trees , over 90 currently. I can see if you had a few mega sites it could make sense. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve J

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never know if you don't ask. I know one isp in the same boat, 150 towers, lots of hills, I can see the price being too high. But the other part where they help identify best locations to cover from may be worth it. Less towers and more c

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo Tlalpeno

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
Now that looks like a good treat for a cool evening On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:25 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Chicken breast , garbanzo, rice, consume', avocado...cheese. Tortillas de > maiz. bubbly > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > --

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
Pay per successful install would be good. Win-win. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 5:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/china-s-mobile-carriers-lose-15-million-users-as-virus-bites Apparently it's about 20 million mobile phone subscriptions canceled over the course of January and February combined.  Except they have 1.6 Billion mobile subscriptions.  That's abou

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
HrmmmIt looks like I conflated a total unemployment figure from December with an "Urban unemployment" figure from February. My numbers are a little off kilter.  Allegedly so are theirs. Apparently the "urban unemployment" number is considered a very low count because there are 200 million m

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Robert
We looked at that a week ago and asked the same question and came up with a plausible answer.   China mobile services are 90% month to month and with people confined to their domiciles they can switch to wifi calling and cancel service. On 3/24/20 1:14 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Regarding the Chin

Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

2020-03-24 Thread chuck
How do they charge for it? Can you do work for the next guy over? From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never know if you don't ask. I know one isp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo Tlalpeno

2020-03-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes...use clean chicken breasts..shred them...boil in water with consume' (tomato boullion chicken flavor) add garbanzo beans ..then cooked rice... little salt... Once cook... chicken and beans are soft...then add some white cheese..(muenster will do) and avocado...fresh corn tortillasyum

[AFMUG] 450m "MUX Gain"

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
In the Cambium capacity planner you can set a "MUX Gain" value to account for MU-MIMO.  It seems to simply multiply the system capacity by the MUX gain. The default value is 3.0. Has anyone experienced an actual trippling of capacity with the 450m? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af