☺ I have a AF24 running my home, kids hate when it rains but mehhh free to
pull back a few hundred mbps from our main DC
From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2025 4:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
No, you have to
No, you have to have diversity etc. This is on a DIA, not feeding a customer.
From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2025 3:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
That's the (reliable) part, I've never met a customer that is OK
January 30, 2025 2:58 PM
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> 60Ghz is likely not a 4mile (reliable) DIA product unless your local area
> has camels in its recent history.
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 3:42 p.m. Steve Jones
> wrote:
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We have one going 12 miles that works fine unless it is raining.
From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2025 2:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
60Ghz is likely not a 4mile (reliable) DIA product unless your local area has
camels in its
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From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 12:39 PM
To: 'Colin Stanners' ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: Peter Kranz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
Agreed with AF60LR not being reliable at 4 miles, I’ve experienced this
gt;
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2025 9:37 AM
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>> 4 Miles reliably, without using the too-slow / interference
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> *From:* Colin Stanners
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> 4 Miles reliably, without using the too-slow / interferenc
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From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 9:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Peter Kranz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
4 Miles reliably, without using the too-slow / interference-adding 5ghz backup?
Because we have a 4 mile 60ghz
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From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 9:28 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
Can you predict 60 GHz range without knowing the rain zone? I
mie
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2025 2:39 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
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> Just under 4 miles.
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> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:30 PM Nate Burke wrote:
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> How long is the link?
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> On 1/23/20
Peter Kranz via AF
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 10:53 AM
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Cc: Peter Kranz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
11Ghz is a waste of money for 4 Miles.. You can easily deliver 1Gbps at 4 Miles
with a pair of Wave-Pro radios.
Peter Kr
From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 2:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
Just under 4 miles.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:30 PM Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> > wrote:
How long is the link?
On 1/23/2025 4:15
d in the future someone else can’t
>> coordinate a link because you used so much spectrum, they can force you to
>> upgrade to 3 ft Cat A dishes.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 25, 2025 2:19 PM
>> *To:*
much spectrum, they can force you to
> upgrade to 3 ft Cat A dishes.
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> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 25, 2025 2:19 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> Who cares? It&#
dishes, and in the future someone else can’t
coordinate a link because you used so much spectrum, they can force you to
upgrade to 3 ft Cat A dishes.
From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2025 2:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
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>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2025 5:19:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
Yeah, they made a big deal of their partnership with Quantenna, which a Google
search tells me was acquired by ON Semi in 2019.
oesn’t exist anymore? As I look at the chips in consumer WiFi gear
> I see Qualcomm and Mediatek but I never hear Quantenna.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2025 5:13 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:
gear I see
Qualcomm and Mediatek but I never hear Quantenna.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2025 5:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
Yeah, that was the Mimosa B11, it used an upconverted/modified wifi chipset, if
I
Yeah, that was the Mimosa B11, it used an upconverted/modified wifi
chipset, if I remember correctly.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 3:49 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> Maybe I'm mixing it up with the Mimosa B11. One of them (the B11?), had
> some screwball licensing gymnastics. IIRC, it was something about t
Aviat has some older NEC 80GHz gear that they are trying to move.Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Jan 24, 2025, at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:So the B11 would do 750 mbps FDX? And they called it 1.5Gbps like Ubnt AF11?On Fri, J
Maybe I'm mixing it up with the Mimosa B11. One of them (the B11?), had
some screwball licensing gymnastics. IIRC, it was something about
tweaking an unlicensed chipset to operate at 11GHz? Memory fading...
bp
On 1/24/2025 1:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
No, the AF11 is full duplex (which is
Yeah, I think the B11 would do roughly the same throughput as an airfiber
11 with a 50/50 traffic split (they also had 75/25 and flexible options),
so it could do something like 1000/500, for example. They can't do a true
full duplex though, and they burn up a ton of spectrum - you need two 80mhz
c
Wasn't the Mimosa B11 1.5 gbp TDD?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 4:14 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> Right. The AF11 is right around 700 Mbps, and it's also half duplex,
> which is a special kind of throttle. All the licensed radios that I know
> of (other than the AF11) do full duplex.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 1/23
So the B11 would do 750 mbps FDX? And they called it 1.5Gbps like Ubnt
AF11?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 4:27 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> No, the AF11 is full duplex (which is why Ubiquitil calls it 1.5Gbps, or
> whatever). The Mimosa B11 is the only half duplex 11ghz radio that I'm
> aware of... I'm
No, the AF11 is full duplex (which is why Ubiquitil calls it 1.5Gbps, or
whatever). The Mimosa B11 is the only half duplex 11ghz radio that I'm
aware of... I'm not sure if they're still making those or not. They were
the cheapest way to get a full gig in one direction on an 11ghz link (half
duplex
Right. The AF11 is right around 700 Mbps, and it's also half duplex,
which is a special kind of throttle. All the licensed radios that I know
of (other than the AF11) do full duplex.
bp
On 1/23/2025 1:45 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated circuit
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> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2025 5:36 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
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>
>
> Once upon a time, I had a 11 GHZ emergency license that could be deployed
> anywhere nationwide at any time for any link. Not sure how they han
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
Once upon a time, I had a 11 GHZ emergency license that could be deployed
anywhere nationwide at any time for any link. Not sure how they handled
interference. I am sure that system no longer exists. It was for common
gt; carriers. Talking 40 years ago.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2025 4:27 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
>
>
> At 4 miles, 11 GHz would be a good choice. You’re going to p
, January 23, 2025 4:27 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
At 4 miles, 11 GHz would be a good choice. You’re going to pay for frequency
coordination and FCC licensing, I wouldn’t cheap out on the equipment, get
something you’d be happy to put on the
On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 5:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
So 18Ghz, or in very rain-heavy areas 11GHz. Find a way to make Aviat pricing
work, or go with a used dual-polarity 1.2gbit Cambium PTP8x0 from
So 18Ghz, or in very rain-heavy areas 11GHz. Find a way to make Aviat
pricing work, or go with a used dual-polarity 1.2gbit Cambium PTP8x0 from
SurplusWirelessGear or others.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 4:40 p.m. Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> Just under 4 miles.
>
> On Thu,
Just under 4 miles.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:30 PM Nate Burke wrote:
> How long is the link?
> On 1/23/2025 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> That is correct.
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:53 PM Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> You can get the equipment back at the end of the contract, right?
>>
>>
How long is the link?
On 1/23/2025 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
That is correct.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:53 PM Josh Luthman
wrote:
You can get the equipment back at the end of the contract, right?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:47 PM Jason McKemie
wrote:
I'm putting in
That is correct.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:53 PM Josh Luthman
wrote:
> You can get the equipment back at the end of the contract, right?
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:47 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated ci
: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated circuit. What are my
options for PtP gear that can accomplish this? I was thinking AF11, but their
advertising is misleading as it looks like (at least in the US) it can do
You can get the equipment back at the end of the contract, right?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 4:47 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated circuit. What are
> my options for PtP gear that can accomplish this? I was thinkin
I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated circuit. What are
my options for PtP gear that can accomplish this? I was thinking AF11, but
their advertising is misleading as it looks like (at least in the US) it
can do just under 700M. This is a 12 month commitment, so Aviat is probably
rooftop, or the
>>> backhaul will drop out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via
>>> AF
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 7:21 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gro
e a
>> problem. Like don’t climb the tower or walk on the rooftop, or the
>> backhaul will drop out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 7:21 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave
be a
> problem. Like don’t climb the tower or walk on the rooftop, or the
> backhaul will drop out.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 7:21 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Dennis Bur
gt; *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via AF
*Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 7:21 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Cc:* Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
Yep. MT wireless wire
, 2020 7:21 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Dennis Burgess
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
Yep. MT wireless wire dish.
http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2656&idcategory=0
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e a
> problem. Like don’t climb the tower or walk on the rooftop, or the
> backhaul will drop out.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2020 7:21 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess
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From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 7:40 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
I haven’t spent much time looking at the 60 and 80 GHz products, but do I
remember correctly that some have an antenna
: Dennis Burgess
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
Yep. MT wireless wire dish.
http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2656
<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2656&idcategory=0>
&idcategory=0
Dennis Burgess
Mikr
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From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 11:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
Just across a street? I would just go with a mikrotik 60ghz (wireless wire
dish), it's going to be t
; Owner - Brazos WiFi
>> 979-985-5912
>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
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>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2020 10:14 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1GBps link
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>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2020 10:14 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
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>>
>>
>> A church wants a wireless link to push 1GBps over a street...
t;
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2020 10:14 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
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or something approaching 1G.
>
>
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
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> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2020 10:14 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AF
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Subject: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option
A church wants a wireless link to push 1GBps over a street...
Any ideas? Siklu is out of their budget.
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