Yep you screw yourself and neighbors just to save a few bucks, be a good
person =)

On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 2:24 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> One theory would be that you’re reserving a ton of spectrum and could
> replace it in the future with a super duper Aviat config that would utilize
> all those channels and polarizations.  Seems unlikely if it’s just to one
> customer for a year though.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, if it’s from one of your towers to the customer, you
> could be hurting yourself in the future if you want to coordinate
> additional 11 GHz links off that tower.
>
>
>
> And technically you probably aren’t meeting the FCC minimum bandwidth
> utilization requirement, unlikely to get caught though.
>
>
>
> And if you’re using 2 ft dishes, and in the future someone else can’t
> coordinate a link because you used so much spectrum, they can force you to
> upgrade to 3 ft Cat A dishes.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 25, 2025 2:19 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link
>
>
>
> Who cares?  It's certified.  If there's no one else using it by now, in
> 2025, clearly it's not limited in that area.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 4:02 AM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>
> B11 is absolutely trash you waste 4x the channel pairs due to the tdd
> nature, it's not being a good Stewart of the spectrum
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025, 6:26 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Quantenna was reasonably popular, depending on what circles you were in.
> However, Onsemi shut down (or will soon shut down) all of Quantenna's
> operations.
>
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <*khoh...@kwom.com*>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <*af@af.afmug.com*>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 24, 2025 5:19:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> Yeah, they made a big deal of their partnership with Quantenna, which a
> Google search tells me was acquired by ON Semi in 2019.  I have a feeling
> that ON wanted the designers not the products and maybe the chip Mimosa was
> using doesn’t exist anymore?  As I look at the chips in consumer WiFi gear
> I see Qualcomm and Mediatek but I never hear Quantenna.
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> *From:* AF <*af-boun...@af.afmug.com*> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2025 5:13 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <*af@af.afmug.com*>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> Yeah, that was the Mimosa B11, it used an upconverted/modified wifi
> chipset, if I remember correctly. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 3:49 PM Bill Prince <*part15...@gmail.com*> wrote:
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> Maybe I'm mixing it up with the Mimosa B11. One of them (the B11?), had
> some screwball licensing gymnastics. IIRC, it was something about tweaking
> an unlicensed chipset to operate at 11GHz? Memory fading...
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> On 1/24/2025 1:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
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> No, the AF11 is full duplex (which is why Ubiquitil calls it 1.5Gbps, or
> whatever). The Mimosa B11 is the only half duplex 11ghz radio that I'm
> aware of... I'm not sure if they're still making those or not. They were
> the cheapest way to get a full gig in one direction on an 11ghz link (half
> duplex though, so roughly the same throughput as the AF11 if you're maxing
> out both directions), but they were trash.
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> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 3:14 PM Bill Prince <*part15...@gmail.com*> wrote:
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> Right. The AF11 is right around 700 Mbps, and it's also half duplex,
> which is a special kind of throttle. All the licensed radios that I know
> of (other than the AF11) do full duplex.
>
> bp
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> On 1/23/2025 1:45 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated circuit. What
> > are my options for PtP gear that can accomplish this? I was thinking
> > AF11, but their advertising is misleading as it looks like (at least
> > in the US) it can do just under 700M. This is a 12 month commitment,
> > so Aviat is probably out of the budget.
> >
> > -Jason
> >
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