...or you make the project financially viable instead of continuing to under utilize 11 GHz as it has been for the last 10 years? In the event you are such a "bad neighbor" you're forced to upgrade regardless.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 7:47 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > Yep you screw yourself and neighbors just to save a few bucks, be a good > person =) > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 2:24 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: > >> One theory would be that you’re reserving a ton of spectrum and could >> replace it in the future with a super duper Aviat config that would utilize >> all those channels and polarizations. Seems unlikely if it’s just to one >> customer for a year though. >> >> >> >> On the other hand, if it’s from one of your towers to the customer, you >> could be hurting yourself in the future if you want to coordinate >> additional 11 GHz links off that tower. >> >> >> >> And technically you probably aren’t meeting the FCC minimum bandwidth >> utilization requirement, unlikely to get caught though. >> >> >> >> And if you’re using 2 ft dishes, and in the future someone else can’t >> coordinate a link because you used so much spectrum, they can force you to >> upgrade to 3 ft Cat A dishes. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 25, 2025 2:19 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link >> >> >> >> Who cares? It's certified. If there's no one else using it by now, in >> 2025, clearly it's not limited in that area. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 4:02 AM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >> >> B11 is absolutely trash you waste 4x the channel pairs due to the tdd >> nature, it's not being a good Stewart of the spectrum >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025, 6:26 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> Quantenna was reasonably popular, depending on what circles you were in. >> However, Onsemi shut down (or will soon shut down) all of Quantenna's >> operations. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> *Midwest Internet Exchange* >> >> *The Brothers WISP* >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <*khoh...@kwom.com*> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <*af@af.afmug.com*> >> *Sent: *Friday, January 24, 2025 5:19:31 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Yeah, they made a big deal of their partnership with Quantenna, which a >> Google search tells me was acquired by ON Semi in 2019. I have a feeling >> that ON wanted the designers not the products and maybe the chip Mimosa was >> using doesn’t exist anymore? As I look at the chips in consumer WiFi gear >> I see Qualcomm and Mediatek but I never hear Quantenna. >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *From:* AF <*af-boun...@af.afmug.com*> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2025 5:13 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <*af@af.afmug.com*> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1Gbps link <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Yeah, that was the Mimosa B11, it used an upconverted/modified wifi >> chipset, if I remember correctly. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 3:49 PM Bill Prince <*part15...@gmail.com*> >> wrote: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Maybe I'm mixing it up with the Mimosa B11. One of them (the B11?), had >> some screwball licensing gymnastics. IIRC, it was something about tweaking >> an unlicensed chipset to operate at 11GHz? Memory fading... >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> bp <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On 1/24/2025 1:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> No, the AF11 is full duplex (which is why Ubiquitil calls it 1.5Gbps, or >> whatever). The Mimosa B11 is the only half duplex 11ghz radio that I'm >> aware of... I'm not sure if they're still making those or not. They were >> the cheapest way to get a full gig in one direction on an 11ghz link (half >> duplex though, so roughly the same throughput as the AF11 if you're maxing >> out both directions), but they were trash. >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 3:14 PM Bill Prince <*part15...@gmail.com*> >> wrote: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Right. The AF11 is right around 700 Mbps, and it's also half duplex, >> which is a special kind of throttle. All the licensed radios that I know >> of (other than the AF11) do full duplex. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 1/23/2025 1:45 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >> > I'm putting in a bid to deliver a 1G symmetric dedicated circuit. What >> > are my options for PtP gear that can accomplish this? I was thinking >> > AF11, but their advertising is misleading as it looks like (at least >> > in the US) it can do just under 700M. This is a 12 month commitment, >> > so Aviat is probably out of the budget. >> > >> > -Jason >> > >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> *AF@af.afmug.com* >> *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> *AF@af.afmug.com* >> *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> *AF@af.afmug.com* >> *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> *AF@af.afmug.com* >> *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> *AF@af.afmug.com* >> *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > Thank you, > > TJ Trout > Volt Broadband > 209.480.3122 Cell > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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