Zig has plan9 output already. It's incomplete and maybe bitrotted though
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Check out the pdffs code on my exp branch on sr.ht (under ~pixelherodev). I'm
using bezierpts to generate polygons for all rendering; bezsplinepts should be
equivalent.
(Pdffs can render shapes now btw. Implemented that two weeks ago ;)
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USB serial devices are mounted by nusb/serial. Rimport runs in a namespace
where nusb isnt running and thus won't see it.
Over rcpu, you should be able to run nusb/serial if you know the endpoint.
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Quoth ron minnich :
> Am I out of my head?
I don't think so. It's not a bad idea.
Not trivial, but shouldn't be terribly unreasonable.
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uded in
riostart by default, jumps to intro(1), and adding more useful man pages
and links to them from the intro man page, could make a world of
difference in terms of accessibility.
Anywho, I don't have time to flesh this out now, I probably shouldn't
have written this email right now e
hing else you need help with,
lemme know!
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There is, qit/query has a flag for it.
We're currently using git/walk to fetch them - oh! We should only need
to diff _modified_ files, whereas we currently also diff files which are
_added_ or _removed_ as well, iirc.
I'm currently setting up my replacement 9front system, I'll take a look
shortl
git/merge might work a bit faster, but making it smarter was on the list
of things I wanted to get to right before my 9front laptop broke :P
Both merge and rebase, IIRC, will try comparing every path on either
side (or all three sides for 3-way merges, rather), even if e.g. the
parent directory do
Is there a link to where that can be found? :)
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Yeah, but most of them aren't too hard to replace, it's just flipping
registers and bit logic, and we have C++ code to reference for which
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Echoing what's already been said, really glad to see this :)
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Definitely interested, I'll take a look :)
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an calling out suspected users and diminishing
> trust.
I'm not wasting more ink on this, but please, please
please stop feeding the troll. It's not worth it.
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I'd strongly suggest that anyone who thinks "vic" is genuinely trying to
help, and at worst a bit incompetent, take a look at that thread.
The author of plan9zig is not on this mailing list, to the best of my
knowledge. They saw the 'patch', expressed appre
The patches are deeply relevant, and to be quite honest I'm infuriated
at how much people's time is being _deliberately_ wasted by "vic".
I tried giving them the benefit of the doubt but this is now clearly
active malice.
The author of the project they submitted the patches to noticed the
patches
> @Noam I feel you cast vague aspersions without evidence
Hence why I mentioned that there's evidence trivially available if you
look ;)
pretty sure someon already shared some of the articles in here.
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They've made ridiculous, obviously-false claims. You can look it up
fairly easily if you want, I recall articles titled "V is for Vaporware"
and the like from a few years back.
the very short explanation: they have had outright lies on their website
since, IIRC, 2018.
They have still not fixed th
V is a scam.
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Have you tried shortening the lines? ;)
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on Plan 9 as well.
- Noam Preil
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That's familiar enough that TBH I probably saw your message and forgot
to respond. I was going through Some Shit at the time.
I'm cleaning up my inbox today; I'll respond if I see it and reach out
if I don't :)
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Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> I didn't get it wrong, I was asked to send money if I wanted help, which I
> found unusual.
If you're sincerely trying to be helpful, then I apologize for
the excessive snark, but frankly I assumed that you were being
obtuse intentionally, since you have repea
Quoth wb.kl...@gmail.com:
> Noam is right in most of his text.
Well of course, I'm me, what do you expect? :D
> But I have to add that the following sentence should be taken with some grain
> of salt.
Everything should be taken with at least one grain of salt, preferably
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> While I've received some help, it wasn't clear. I haven't asked for further
> clarification because I know I would receive more banter for asking simple
> follow-up questions.
If you ask questions, I'll happily answer them.
Banter you've received was specif
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> I see this as a documentation problem. If people can't find information
> easily, they ask. Without credible documentation, the cycle never ends. We
> have endless discussions on 9fans on how to do things. Improving
> documentation is a step forward. Is aski
Plan 9 website, https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/, and get
> everything they need? What is up with the community site and 9fans?
These are valid points.
Lack of good documentation, especially for a total newcomer or
someone who isn't already technically inclined, is a serious issue.
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> If you're struggling, show your work so others can see and comment on your
> mistakes
Ironic to hear that from someone who is clearly using LLMs and avoiding
putting in any effort, and simultaneously refusing to show the minimal
work involved (the prompt) whil
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> I'm not a troll; frustrated, perhaps. I just don't understand this culture. I
> don't think the issue lies with LLMs, but rather with an unwillingness to
> cooperate unless there's payment involved.
To be totally clear, I was being sarcastic. I thought that w
.
Sincerely, please, please stop. Every single part of what you have posted
has been wrong, and when corrected, you respond by posting even more
misinformation.
Lying to people is not helpful.
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thing better could be created.
I understand you're trying to be helpful, but giving people incorrect
information _actively hurts_ people.
Please, please stop.
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mpletely different.
What to use and how to set it up depends, as always, on what you're trying to
do :)
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oing to toss fastmail in my upas inbox rejection
script.
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Other than the fact where that isn't copyrightable?
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If someone is hungry and you try to help them by knocking them
unconscious, no, I will not respect your attempt to help.
Good intentions, backed up by incompetence and a lack of respect for
those you seek to help, do not justify harmful actions.
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spect for this community.
You're wasting other people's time, because other people aren't just
using spam generators to reply to yours. Please stop immediately.
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a to another by treating arenas as folders, that's
incoherent. Partitions are FILES. The OS / disk drivers have no
conception of what data venti is storing within!
This is very blatantly generated by a spambot. That behavior is not
acceptable within this community. Please refrain from doing
Legally, you don't own that.
It's already been ruled that, in the US at least, AI spam is not
copyrightable.
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I would _love_ a complete list of known issues.
What I'm aware of:
- IIRC ORCLOSE doesn't work properly (visible as acme leaving temporary
files around after exiting)
- At least one deadlock remaining
- Syncs are not atomic, so a crash can render the system unbootable if
e.g. termrc was being wri
Responding off list shortly :)
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pam-looking content was actually written by a person!" is not a great
defense.
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I have found multiple deadlocks over the last few years, and only
bothered fixing one of them. That patch is in 9legacy, as well, now.
During my IWP9 talk in which, among other things, I explained why I
intend to replace fossil despite curently using it, I demonstrated one
of the problems with fos
The only company listed there is yours, no?
That's not a good look.
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It is not, but in fairness, some people really do write the same way
that the LLMs do, so it's not impossible for a real person to appear to
be an LLM.
I'm leaning towards LLM-generated, anyways. It's far too similar in
structure / syntax to other AI spam I've had to deal with recently.
9 was running from fossil on my 9front branch.
If my changes are too extensive compared to 9front (it's a personal
branch, so I wouldn't blame you for thinking that), I'm happy to even
create a branch that's just 9front+fossil. It's really not hard.
- Noam Preil
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Quoth Edouard Klein :
> I, for one, will attend, barring any incident.
Same!
> I will send my submission in a frenzy panic minutes before the deadline,
> as one usually does.
Hey, same!! :D
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Quoth Don Bailey :
> Cool rant.
It's incredible to me that you can put in so much effort to make sure that
the strength of your convictions is clear, while also putting in so little
effort that nobody wants to be around you long enough to find out what they
actually are.
Quoth Don Bailey :
> I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it.
Are you okay?
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I wasn't talking to you :P
That was a response to the post that looked AI-generated. I sincerely
apologize if I accidentally responded to your post instead, but I don't
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That seems like a lot of work, though; surely, we can all just share a
rootfs over 9p!!
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It might help to believe that if you wrote actual ideas about what
should be done.
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Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm:
> [redacted for sanity]
This is AI-generated spam, right? :P
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Looks like it's hanging waiting for a response from venti; are you able to
connect to venti directly? Did your venti or fossil config change recently? I'm
not aware of recent changes to upstream venti that could cause this, but it's
certainly possible, and venti and fossil are both fragile enoug
I run venti+fossil off of 9front git without issues (well, without issues
caused by 9front ;).
Can you give a full stack trace of all threads? Happy to take a look :)
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Quoth Don Bailey :
> Hi All,
>
> Just curious if 9Legacy is considered the right place to submit modern
> patches? Is that kind of the 'go to' repository for modern
> patches/improvements to the 'mainline' Bell Labs distro?
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a specific list of issues that others have noticed!
Thanks,
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Quoth Anthony Martin :
> Noam, can you reproduce your problem with the above patch?
Just from reading the patch: yes, with ~95% confidence.
The logic it's fixing is completely unrelated.
So: thanks! Now I can import that patch and have *another* deadlock fixed!
Are there any other p
Quoth Charles Forsyth :
> Fossil works hard to do certain things that now we probably wouldn't bother
> to do.
Such as?
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Quoth Steve Simon :
> was this hard to reproduce?
I've seen it sporadically over the last year, and - when looking for it -
was able to trigger it deliberately yesterday with minimal effort the
first time I looked for it.
...of course, when I was later trying to reproduce it a third time, I
wasn'
I've sporadically encountered a deadlock in fossil. Naturally, when your root
file system crashes, it can be hard to debug. My solution: stop having a root
file system. Was able to attach acid using mycroft's tooling from ANTS, and get
a clean stack trace (https://pixelhero.dev/notebook/fossil/s
I'm working on rebasing ANTS onto 9front-master, with the intent of taking up
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