On Sun, May 25, 2025 at 10:40:35AM -0700, Clout Tolstoy wrote:
> Here are some for 9front
>
> Not sure how updated or active this in so ymmv:
>
> https://fqa.9front.org/appendixb.html
to be absolutely clear: that's a list of things people claimed they'd
pay money for. we don't pay for bugs.
kh
On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 08:20:20AM +0200, tlaro...@kergis.com wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 03:53:03PM -0700, Paul Lalonde wrote:
> > It's easy enough to add /net.alt's setup into the namespace being
> > constructed - there's a few places to do so.
> > But this misses that pulling the network st
On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 08:20:29PM +0100, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> What about the risc-v version of this
> https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/uconsole-kit-r-01
I own this. I have not been able to get anything but linux to run on
it.
> Or the MNT Pocket Reform… I haven
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 07:10:36PM -0800, Bakul Shah via 9fans wrote:
> 9front came up fine under bhyve (uses efi). Last install from
> 9front-10522.amd64.iso
and once anyone starts shipping laptops with ed2k, we'll all breath a
sigh of relief.
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 10:38:42PM -0500, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>:
> >
> > The problem with the original Hellaphone implementation is that it is
> > nailed to the Android APIs of the era, and Google likes to repl
On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 06:34:11PM +, Andrew Back wrote:
> On 20/01/2025 17:09, ron minnich wrote:
> > I'm getting more and more bothered by the mountain of things going on in
> > my phones that I can never understand.
> >
> > So I got curious and found this:
> > https://www.instructables.com/
Speaking of 'your ideas here', now that the p9f has some formal
structure, it might be worth looking into OSUOSL hosting. If you plan
to ramp up users, that'll come with a rise in i/o on contrib, and
hosting costs. The folks at OSUOSL provide a good service to projects
in this regard and OSU stud
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:29:48PM +0100, sirjofri wrote:
> In general, we have a lot of "this is how tool X works" manuals, and a lack
> of "this is how task X can be done" documentation. The fqa is probably the
> most famous example of the latter, next to the intro man pages. I would be
> happ
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 01:24:40PM -0800, Paul Lalonde wrote:
> The remnants of that work are now living on in the AVX512 instruction set.
> The principal problem with Larrabee was that the ring bus connecting some
> 60+ ring stops was *so wide* (512 bits bidirectional = 1024 bits!) that it
> consu
On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 10:24:23PM -0800, Ron Minnich wrote:
> We had stopped the k10 work in 2006, when Fred
> Johnson, DOE program manager of FAST-OS, asked the FAST-OS researchers
> to start focusing on the upcoming petaflop HPC systems, which were not
> going to be x86 clusters, and (so long ag
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:40:33AM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> Hello, 9fans.
>
> Russ Cox has graciously transferred management of the list to the Plan 9
> Foundation. As part of that change, this list will now be moderated.
> Information about the group, including our moderation guidelines,
On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 06:59:23AM +0100, Steve Simon wrote:
> i can confirm vic is human and predates LLMs by many years. he has been a
> contributor to plan9 for as long as i can remember.
Where did he copy and paste the contributions from before LLMs?
khm
On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 03:51:13PM +0900, vester.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> I'm relieved this mailing list focuses on Plan 9, not 9front, since I don't
> use 9front. I submitted two patches today—no armchair engineers around here.
I hope that you learn nobody wants your LLM output quickly enou
I look forward to end of the "what C needs is more bureaucracy" era of
programming language design.
I note that the linked discussion starts out with someone stating a
concrete goal which would justify porting a language to a platform, and
the following recommendation of V is primarily vibe-based.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 09:52:58AM -0400, Russ Cox wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In plan9port, back in 2020, I wrote a new parser in rc to clean up a few
> things, most notably that = signs are now allowed in command arguments.
> This makes rc much nicer for using programs with -foo=bar flag syntax. It
> w
On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 02:50:55PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> I am sharing my perspective, but it seems you disagree with my viewpoint and
> want to label me negatively. Is this how your group handles differing
> opinions?
This approach to community engagement is called "DARVO."
On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 02:27:58PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> From a newcomer's perspective, it feels like dealing with a cult run by scam
> artists. It seems someone wants to profit from me by selling books on Amazon,
> like a multi-level marketing group. People say others here
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 02:27:14PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it
> be.
I don't need your permission to think whatever I like, and there are
tons of other things I can do, like informing you that you're a us
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 02:10:43PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
>
> cron '*/5 * * * * fs(3) -m /dev/sdE0/arena /dev/sdE1/arena'
>
When you generate bullshit with an LLM and then post it without reading
it, nobody thinks the LLM is stupid. We think *you* are stupid.
khm
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 10:34:29PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> I'm working to find an answer for Marco despite hardware issues. I hope to
> replace my mainboard when funds allow. Trying is better than not trying. If
> Marco gets a fair answer, we're done. Until then, let's get him
On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 09:33:31PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> I did all the work myself. If you choose to be dismissive, that is your
> prerogative. The original question remains unanswered; you have only
> complained and criticized, doing little to address it.
Vic? Is that you
On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 08:09:44PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> Please elaborate on any issues you find in my work and explain where I am
> wrong.
Why? So you can type that into an LLM prompt as well?
kalona ayeliski are supposed to torture dying people, not computer
mailing list
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 07:32:18AM -0400, pl...@room3420.net wrote:
> an other interesting reading :
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/critical-analysis-9front-community-conflict-vester-thacker-htt3f?trk=article-ssr-frontend-pulse_more-articles_related-content-card
I love this article very much. U
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 02:22:01PM +, Samuel Reader via 9fans wrote:
> The 2nd draft is out. I've made some corrections as mentioned by others, and
> I have added those who have helped to the acknowledgements. This draft is
> only for those that are interested in the content. If you are not i
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:54:41PM -0400, Don Bailey wrote:
> You handwave insults off by pretending like they aren't directed at the
> exact person you're responding to :-)
>
> It's quite tiresome, and yet persistent.
When else has it happened? Do I always do it? Are there firmware
differences
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:20:04PM -0400, Don Bailey wrote:
> Again, this is a core example I'm talking about. In this email you've
> called me gross, a bootlicker, etc, while ignoring my concerns and brushing
> them off as "emotional".
What part of "not directed at you, Don" did you fail to parse
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:53:28AM -0400, Don Bailey wrote:
> It's not gaslighting to ask for evidence. I was here, I remember the
> complains with Fossil. But to what degree was that /actually/ Fossil? What
> degree was it the configurations, the hardware, the firmware, the
> consistency of manage
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:20:48AM -0400, Don Bailey wrote:
> But please document them and provide rationale/evidence for their
removal.
You've been on this list a while. You should remember therefore that
Fossil was a *constant* topic of debate here for *years*.
Specifically, people
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 02:18:54AM -0400, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
> You really should read the GPL. Your changes were included with GPL'ed code
> even in the same file and not distributed as independent patches so the
> modified work as a whole got infected by the GPL license.
This is explicitl
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 02:04:24AM -0400, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
>
> There are many companies who double license code. As the owners of such code
> they are free to do this. Users can't relicense code as they please
> especially not GPL licensed code.
At no point did we 'relicense' anything.
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 01:54:27AM -0400, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
Happily. Here's the original revision of /lib/legal/NOTICE:
http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/file/944787349e93/lib/legal/NOTICE
> The Plan 9 software is provided under the terms of th
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 11:52:29PM -0400, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
>
> You ignore copyrights as you please and distributed 9front under an MIT
> license long before Nokia as the owner of it decided to do so. You did
> that at a time when plan9 was placed under GPL.
You have apparently not read
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 11:46:59AM +0930, clinton wrote:
> I await the scorching flames for my great impudence of interjecting into a
> vociferous discussion with such a pragmatic tangent!
If you don't intend to have anything hanging out with a direct internet
connection, just use whatever looks c
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 09:46:12PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
>
> So what is it, exactly, that people want?
The only people who feel like there's some conflict to resolve are
people who do not use the software and have nothing to offer except for
social commentary. This "us vs them" shit is only of
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 09:21:20AM +0900, vester.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> unclear who exactly is responsible. Typically, a team of two or more
> individuals would focus on these deliverables.
nobody is "responsible" and there are no "deliverables"
the people who covet bureaucracy have on
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 02:16:47PM +0100, Richard Miller wrote:
>
> That's quadrillions of years. Not what most people would call "trivial".
> And that's generously assuming the implementation of meet-in-the-middle
> is zero cost. Without meet-in-the-middle, we're looking at a 168-bit
> keyspace a
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 04:52:29PM +0100, Marco Feichtinger wrote:
> My router at home also serves as the DHCP server for the network.
>
> I have a plan9 file server and now want to pxe boot a second machine from it.
> On the file server I have 'ip/dhcpd -sS' running, since it also serves bootp
>
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 06:04:33PM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:
> Thanks, but I don't know who owns that site these dayse. I'll forward to
> the 9fans mailing list.
>
> -rob
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 6:20 AM Douglas McIlroy <
> douglas.mcil...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> > The link to plan 9 from o
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:44:34AM -0500, Don Bailey wrote:
> I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it.
This tracks. Thanks for your insight.
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 06:17:39AM +0900, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> However, it is challenging for me to engage effectively in a community
> when there's no unified vision to align with.
We all like Plan 9. Identify the people who like the same things about
Plan 9 that you like about Plan
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:49:33PM -0500, Don A. Bailey wrote:
> I use it. It’s also my advice. It wasn’t “advice” from Rob, it was a design
> choice. There’s more value in that than “advice”.
It's a design choice nobody can implement, because it presumes that the
starting point is correct enoug
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 08:53:30PM -0500, Don A. Bailey wrote:
> Tbf I took it as genuine.
>
> One reason I responded with no is that Rob noted that further 9 releases
> should not be a release at all, but should be fluid updates through the
> network. I think if 9 lives on it should be that wa
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 07:22:01PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote:
>Since announcing the Plan 9 Foundation, folks have asked how they can
>support our work. We’ve had that “on hold” until we had a bunch of
>organizational things sorted. We’re very pleased to say that the last big
>one
On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 07:18:23AM -0400, dusan3...@gmail.com wrote:
> Also I was doing with tail -f /dev/kmesg in the background and without that
> /dev/kmesg loses the start of output up to some random moment where it shows
> it. Could the problem be that i have too many outputs?
try tail +0f
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 12:32:55PM +, G B via 9fans wrote:
> Windows and Linux began on single-core single processor machines.
> Multiprocessor had been around for some time--IBM's System 360 began using
> multi-processors in 1968--but not for x86. Plan 9 first edition came out in
> 1992, a
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 01:46:17PM -0400, dusan3...@gmail.com wrote:
> Research
Researching what? "The effects of using build systems I don't like: an
empirical approach"
khm
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On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 02:06:41PM -0500, Marshall Conover wrote:
>
> I see in the "important dates" the "Camera-ready version" for March 13th,
> but I'm not sure what that refers to.
>
"Camera-ready" is a publishing term which means the document is fully
typeset and ready to be printed. It dat
On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 12:02:08PM +0900, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>
> Dr. Strangedev or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love GitHub
>
> --Vic
You should switch to GMail.
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On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 05:38:39AM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote:
> It's a shame that the SDF wiki
> (https://wiki.sdf.org/doku.php?id=vps_-_plan_9_9front) returns a
> missing page.
Looks like it just got moved:
https://wiki.sdf.org/doku.php?id=plan_9_9front
khm
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On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 02:12:47PM -0400, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
> Related question I can't seem to track down an answer to:
>
> I have a 9front cluster which was set up back when Mercurial was used,
> so that is what sysupdate is looking for.
>
> I finally realized that I am no longer seein
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:00:02AM +, Stuart Morrow wrote:
>
> I'm aware. I meant the intended use by the people who designed it. I
> wouldn't call a number pad a pointing device just because it can be
> used as one.
>
Apologies to Ted Selker, but it's a poor tool that only functions in
acco
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:09:24PM +, Stuart Morrow wrote:
> On 01/02/2022, Ben Hancock wrote:
> > as well but have yet to become adept at the trackpoint. Do you find
> > you're able to sweep lines as easily using it in acme as with a physical
> > mouse?
>
> A trackpoint isn't a real three-bu
On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 09:30:26AM -0600, Kent R. Spillner wrote:
>
> In your experience do students appreciate being told what's best for them? ;)
>
In my experience needing to be told what's best for them is the defining
characteristic of a student
khm
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 08:14:44PM +1300, umbrati...@prosimetrum.com wrote:
> > small ones seem to me like a pain to point, and the large ones look
> > like hard to make chords with the big ball in the middle. Could you
> > share your experience?
>
> I use a Kensington Expert which I guess falls i
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 03:47:48PM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:
> I have one mouse still in the original unopened box, just to be safe. The
> label reads
>
> 31P7405 Lenovo Scrollpoint Mouse Model MO098OA
>
> And I have now opened it to be sure, and it is the true blue (literally)
> 3-button version. I
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 08:39:09PM -0800, Kurt H Maier via 9fans wrote:
> The Scrollpoint Rob mentioned was made
> with both IBM and Lenovo branding, and was also available in a sculpted
> Pro model with a thumb-actuated fourth button.
I should specify: the Scrollpoint mouse technically
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 07:48:15PM -0800, Ben Hancock wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Acme has become my main text editor and I'm in the market for a good
> mouse with a decent middle click (i.e. B2). If product recommendations
> aren't eschewed on the list, would fellow acme and/or sam users be
> willing
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 08:14:25PM -0500, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
> Thanks for your hint ori,
>
> After searching for Copying, Copyright, Licence I found these problematic
> commands (libs) :
>
> Xen (9f)
> diff (9f,l9)
> patch (9f, l9)
> ghostscript (9f, l9)
> mp3dec (9f, l9)
> lzip (l9)
>
>
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 06:55:27PM +0100, Alexandr Babic wrote:
> >> I agree. This mailing list is turning out to be a bit too fucking bizarro
> >> for my taste.
> > If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Nobody owes you a
> > safe space, snowflake.
>
> khm, you are using snowflak
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:38:19AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>
>
> >> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
> >>
> >> hello.
> >>
> >> please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political opinion, but
> >> discuss it elsewhere.
> >> sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpi
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 01:54:02PM -0500, Antonio Barrones wrote:
> Linux distros are not only "Linux", they are GNU/Linux. Linux is only the
> kernel of a GNU/Linux system (a distro). Android is not a distro because they
> don't have GNU, but Android is "Linux" because it has Linux as kernel.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:36:19AM +0100, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
>
> I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around
> 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still
> being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on.
> There is als
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 02:15:00PM +0300, Demetrius Iatrakis wrote:
> This is a preview of OAuth2 support in factotum, as part of this year's GSoC:
> https://github.com/Mitsos101/plan9front/pull/1
>
> Installation, on 9front:
>
> git/clone https://github.com/Mitsos101/plan9front plan9front-oauth
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 02:54:22PM -0400, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote:
>
> This reminds me: is the #plan9 channel on oftc the new home of #plan9?
>
The topic in #plan9 on oftc directs users to libera, and has done since
Freenode began to implode. If there's some way I can make this more
clear, pl
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:48:35PM -0500, Tony Mendoza wrote:
> Quick question (or maybe not), but how are these being hosted? Is this done
> on a cloud provider vm platform? Or is this being done in a traditional DC
> using real hardware?
>
> Just curious to know how this is being done beca
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:20:23PM +0200, k...@a-b.xyz wrote:
> > I needed recover(4) on windows, I rewrote most if it in go.
>
> Where can the original version be found?
At /n/sources/contrib/paurea/recover4e.tgz
paper at /n/sources/contrib/rsc/recover/recover.pdf
khm
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On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:20:44AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
> The replacement of legacy BIOS with UEFI had two consequences:
>
> 1. Dual booting is not possible
This is false. Dual-booting works just fine with UEFI; tools like
efibootmgr make it trivial and I do it all the time. It's much n
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 09:03:58PM +0100, David du Colombier wrote:
> > The 4e and 4e-latest tarballs are identical. Is this intentional?
>
> This should be fixed now. Thanks for reporting.
Thanks for the fix.
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 06:06:49AM -0700, a...@9srv.net wrote:
>
> The historical releases are available right now at:
> https://p9f.org/dl/
The 4e and 4e-latest tarballs are identical. Is this intentional?
Thanks either way,
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 06:06:49AM -0700, a...@9srv.net wrote:
> We are thrilled to announce that Nokia has transferred the copyright of
> Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation. This transfer applies to all of the
> Plan 9 from Bell Labs code, from the earliest days through their final
> release.
>
> Th
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:31:13PM -0800, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
wrote:
> Failing that, does anybody have a copy of the original source
> kicking around? Since the virus is going to keep me locked up
> for a few more months yet, porting would help pass the time :-)
Michael Cain's code
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:38:47AM -0800, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>
> You can use bdf2subf [1] with my hidpi vga font [2] to get this. Maybe
> someone already has? If so, I'd be happy to add it to the VGA pile.
sam-d has done this. A hidpi version of the VGA font ready for
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:14:36PM +, sirjofri wrote:
>
> 17.02.2021 20:06:00 bomb...@gmx.net:
> > And is there a version for high dpi displays?
>
> On 9front (and maybe on 9legacy?) It's the font you specify with font=,
> which is vga by default.
You can use bdf2subf [1] with my hidpi vga
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote:
>
> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/.
>
"That effort stalled, mainly due to the treatment of software-focused
non-profit organizations under U.S. regulations at the time."
What does this mean?
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 08:53:55AM +, sirjofri wrote:
>
> Then removing WORM1, storing it as backup or reformat it as a new WORM4:
>
...
> Is something like that possible? If not, it still could be an inspiration
> for ori's new filesystem, maybe?
If he implements this and the resulting fil
On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 06:22:27PM -0500, fi...@lojanci.org wrote:
> what about 2-1 chording, is B2 working fine?
Yes, it's fully HID-compliant.
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 06:02:13PM -0500, fi...@lojanci.org wrote:
> Anybody has tried Unimouse on plan9port/linux?
I have. I don't use it much these days since it's in my office and the
plague has me working from home. It works fine -- what do you need to
know?
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On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 09:15:01AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
>
> I suggest taking a look at https://www.osmio.ch/
>
I suggest not looking at https://www.osmio.ch/ instead.
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On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 09:29:01PM -0400, Leonardo wrote:
> > User-friendliness is difficult to establish precisely.
> Yes, it's an abstract and subjective thing, but on average we know what is.
No we don't. We like to claim we do, but really we're just pretending
prior training is intuition. It
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 01:43:49PM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
>
> On 8/29/20 1:25 PM, Leonardo wrote:
> > I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
>
> By giving a lot of control to the user Plan 9 and its derivatives
> undermine the Silicon Valley business model, w
On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 11:25:57PM -0400, freen...@gmail.com wrote:
> should we maybe mirror it as a WWW site on github.io for safekeeping?
Who is "we"?
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 04:20:19PM -0400, Chris McGee wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm not sure how many on here are aware of the Pine SBC's. There are a few
> different variants of those. Now there are even pre-built laptops and a
> phone. There is a plan for a tablet too. https://www.pine64.org/
I h
On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 08:34:32AM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote:
> We just got a mouthful from sl and you about the lack of explanation
> for the state of the various plan 9 "distributions". It all smacks of
> expecting Da Vinci to update the Mona Lisa because somebody would
> prefer a high-rise lands
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 04:35:25PM -0600, Steven Stallion wrote:
> The upstream version of Mercurial in the 9front ports collection is
> based on my work, not bichued's:
> https://code.9front.org/hg/ports/file/5f994209e142/dev-vcs/mercurial/mkfile
>
That repo is run by 9front users; I just host i
To follow up, 9front mercurial originated from
/n/sources/contrib/bichued/ in 2009. So this is yet another example of
the complete lack of discoverability being a source of unending
confusion in the Plan 9 community. How many years have people been
pissed off about "stolen work" or whatever based
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 08:24:41AM -0600, Steven Stallion wrote:
>
> Indeed. It's interesting that folks from 9front like to tout their
> development as "open" using tools that others in the community have
> developed in addition to their own. To wit, you seem to have gotten
> along quite nicely u
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 09:29:14AM +, Richard Miller wrote:
>
> Never mind, I think I can just about see the gist of what you're
> trying to get across. It's meant to be insulting, right?
>
It's meant to be a practical answer. When people come looking for
information, they want to know whe
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 09:21:04PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> Hi Erik! Vashon might be ok depending on time of year due to limited
> lodging options. I plan to check the O Space for the workshop. lodging will
> be challenging unless we take over campgrounds and set up yurts :)
AYH could comf
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:32:29AM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> michaelian ennis writes:
>
> > I found a second edition set on Abe books last year. They were not
> > inexpensive.
>
> Sadly, Abebooks became utterly useless several years ago, when it was
> taken over by bots scraping each othe
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:09:10AM -0400, s...@9front.org wrote:
> thinkpad x250 (see related entry in fqa3).
>
> everything works. mine is 1920x1080 ips.
Caveat: you must have an Intel 6235 wifi chip installed for everything
to work under 9front. It's Lenovo part number 04W3798 and is cheap.
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:37:46PM +0300, Antonio Barrones wrote:
> There is some snapshots of the broken link
> (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/TinyGL/) in archive.org, but the link
> to the source is missing. For example:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20080506105341/http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 07:09:27AM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote:
>
> So, to be clear: is there a Plan 9 supported facility to configure a
> drive according to the more modern, "don't knock it until you've tried
> it" (hmm, some here will have some valid criticism, I'd like to hear
> that) disk partiti
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 05:33:07PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>
> How about a FOUR second timeout, and some manpage patches?
>
I object to quadrupling the timeout. I am old and my eyesight sucks and
one second is perfectly sane.
khm
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 12:24:44AM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote:
> And we don't have to wait for a Michelangelo to design a perfect UI!
Of course not. We already have Mike Okuda.
khm
On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 05:00:15PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> 9front maintainers, can anyone speak to technical reasons for creating a
> new version rather than fixing existing? Also, any thoughts on changing the
> name slightly so they can both be on the same system? maybe libAVL?
In 2016 s
On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 11:43:55AM -0700, Cull wrote:
>
> Wouldn't BSD (2 clause) be the easiest to reliscence down the road?
>
The copyright holder can relicense at will.
khm
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 09:20:43PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 8:36 PM Kurt H Maier wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 08:26:30PM -0400, Jeremy O'Brien wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, at 11:33, Kyohei Kadota wrote:
> > > > Hi, 9fans
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 08:26:30PM -0400, Jeremy O'Brien wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, at 11:33, Kyohei Kadota wrote:
> > Hi, 9fans. I use 9legacy.
> >
> > About below program, I expected that flags field will initialize to
> > zero but the value of flags was a garbage, ex, "f8f7".
> > Is this exp
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:48:01AM +0100, hiro wrote:
> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2019/02/15/whats-new-for-wsl-in-windows-10-version-1903/
>
Just when the linux kids finally gave up on 9p2000.l, and introduced
virtio-fs, Microsoft shows up to ensconce 9p forever.
khm
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 08:54:16AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>
> something wrong with the functioning; allowed me to subscribe, but
> doesn't allow me to post or even unsubscribe saying "i am not a member".
>
A lot of the plan9port community suffers emotional trauma when
introduced to extern
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