F13 upgrades post here, please.
Hi people. I'd love to hear about F13 upgrade experiences. Once the issues are worked out I'll be upgrading from F12. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:29 +0300, madunix wrote: > after reviewing http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ and > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nokia-n900-first-look few days > ago, I have decided to get nokia N900 over a blackberry, iphone and > droid... since i wanted linux portable box. I need to know your > feedback about this issue. I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping in any meaningful way yet. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:40 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Linuxguy123 kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 25. > toukokuuta 2010): > > I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 > > due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping > > in any meaningful way yet. > > Maemo 5 version 1.2 will be available tomorrow (May 26th). There > won't be any official upgrade to Meego on N900. > http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/05/25/nokia-n900-software-update-release-1-2/ That is exactly the reason I held off from buying one. I'll wait for the N950 or whatever they call it, running Meego before I buy anything. Maemo is a dead platform. It took them forever to release this update and I doubt there will be another one. I want something like Fedora for mobile devices. I'm hoping thats Meego. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?
I run the proprietary, closed source nvidia driver in F12. What happens when I upgrade to F13 ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 05:15 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: > I tried out nouveau recently as I was experiencing "tearing" of the > portions of the screen when scrolling firefox with a window partially > on > top of firefox and was hoping it was the driver. Unfortunately > nouveau > has the same problem. I experience the same problem. I've seen it in Konqueror too. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 and Sipwitch - Anyone got this working
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 13:41 +0100, agraham wrote: > Hi all, > > I thought I'd give Sip Witch a go but I'm have problems making any > calls, my set up is as follows: > > Single segment LAN, with no firewalls, the main host runs sipw in the > foreground so I can see the messages as follows:- > > # sipw -trace -x9 -foreground I haven't even upgraded to F13 but I am anxious to see how you make out. LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrade to Fedora13 from Fedora 8
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 00:52 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:48:18 +, > vijay bhide wrote: > > I downloaded Fedora 13 preupgrade which is my /boot directory of my > > existing Fedora 8 installation.I booted to preupgrade image to start > > upgrade.I reached a stage where 4installation options were offered.One was > > to remove completely existing installations ,second was removing existing > > linux installatios,third was to compress existing Ubuntu 10.04 and the last > > one was to install on free space.In all the options I was prompted to > > create boot partition of 500MB.In my existing system I have Win XP on sda1 > > Mandriva on sda 5,Swap on sda 7,Fedora8 on sda 8 and Data(Fat) on sda > > 6,Ubuntu 9.1 on sda9,Ubuntu 10.04 on sda10.Grub is on MBR.and no boot > > partition. > > You aren't going to be able to go directly from Fedora 8 to Fedora 13 (without > a LOT of pain). > > You are probably better off saving your data and your config and then doing > a fresh install. Why do you say this ? I'd like to see him back up his data and try. He really has nothing to lose. If it doesn't work he can wipe the drive and do a fresh install. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:50 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 06/10/2010 01:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under > > Linux ? > > > > I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem > > for SSDs ? > > > > Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? > > Have you run an SSD ? Is longevity really an issue or is it folklore ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:20 -0700, jack craig wrote: > > On 06/10/2010 01:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under > > Linux ? > > > > I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem > > for SSDs ? > > > > Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? > > > > Thanks > > > > > my asus netbook has a 40GB ssd and works fine under fc12. > > i updated my wifi card to intel, i wonder if i can find/install this Big > SSD?! What does your wifi card have to do with a big SSD ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under Linux ? I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem for SSDs ? Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:08 -0700, jack craig wrote: > On 06/10/2010 02:55 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:20 -0700, jack craig wrote: > > > >> On 06/10/2010 01:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> > >>> I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under > >>> Linux ? > >>> > >>> I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem > >>> for SSDs ? > >>> > >>> Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> my asus netbook has a 40GB ssd and works fine under fc12. > >> > >> i updated my wifi card to intel, i wonder if i can find/install this Big > >> SSD?! > >> > > What does your wifi card have to do with a big SSD ? > > > > > only that i did a swap of my wifi card in the netbook and would hope to > be able to do the same to get a larger storage for the netbook. > > i had not heard of ssd's that large before. Newegg has the Intel Mainstream 160 GB SSD on for about $450. The hard drive in my laptop is slowly failing and it needs to be replaced. Its an HP HDX with 2 drive bays so I can fit F13 and /home on the 160 GB and use a 500 GB drive as secondary storage. People say its the best performance upgrade you do to a computer. For $300 over buying another conventional drive I think its work trying. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 17:10 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem > > for SSDs ? > > There's a few "SSD specific" file systems, but you won't gain much in > everyday computing from switching. ext4 will be just fine. > > > > > Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? > > Nope! Fedora 13 has support for TRIM, so you don't need to worry about > anything. No tweaking, no special maintenance. Enjoy! Thanks for sharing that ! Linux rocks. For those that aren't aware, even Windows 7 is having problems with TRIM. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How is (k)networkmanager supposed to work these days ?
I set up networking with network manager on my laptop back in F11. Or was it F10 ? Not sure. Everything has worked fine since then. I had an icon in my system tray that showed me signal strength and I could click to select various APs, connect, etc. I accomplished this using the NetworkManager-gnome package. Last night I upgraded from F12 to F13. Everything went fine except when I booted I was without wifi functionality. I got everything working but I don't have an icon in my system tray anymore. How do I fix this ? I yum list \*network\* and saw that there is a knetworkmanager package. If I install it, how do I use it ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Why is Dolphin in Lost and Found ?
I use Dolphin a lot and thus I had an icon for it installed in my lower panel on my KDE desktop. One day after doing an update my Dolphin icon disappeared. When I went searching for the Dolphin application in the application launcher I couldn't find the Dolphin app in Utilities anymore. But I did find it in Lost and Found. And it doesn't have its icon anymore. Why did it go there ? How do I get it back where its supposed to be ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Bad hard drive or bad kernels ???
I've had boot problems for months and I'm trying to figure out if its the hard drive or a kernel problem. I just upgraded to F13. I've been running F12 since it came out. Back in January, 2010 I began experiencing boot problems. When I boot, grub will always run reliably but about 2/3rds of the time the kernel won't start running after you select it. All I get is a blinking cursor on a black screen. I've never not been able to get my computer to boot, but sometimes it takes 5 tries. Sometimes it works the first time. I never had any boot problems before it started in January. I've checked the hard drive. All the SMART data says the drive is fine. And grub has never failed to run. So is there something wrong with my laptop or is this a kernel problem ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bad hard drive or bad kernels ???
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 23:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:22 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I've had boot problems for months and I'm trying to figure out if its > > the hard drive or a kernel problem. > > > > I just upgraded to F13. I've been running F12 since it came out. > > > > Back in January, 2010 I began experiencing boot problems. When I boot, > > grub will always run reliably but about 2/3rds of the time the kernel > > won't start running after you select it. All I get is a blinking cursor > > on a black screen. > > > > I've never not been able to get my computer to boot, but sometimes it > > takes 5 tries. Sometimes it works the first time. > > > > I never had any boot problems before it started in January. > > > > I've checked the hard drive. All the SMART data says the drive is fine. > > And grub has never failed to run. > > Have you run memcheck? You mean fsck ? Something runs about every 20 boots and it comes back clean. I haven't specifically run fsck. > > > So is there something wrong with my laptop or is this a kernel problem ? > > It would help if you mentioned your laptop make or model. HP HDX9494 aka Dragon. T8100 processor, 4 GB RAM, 20" LCD, 2 SATA hard drives, etc. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why is Dolphin in Lost and Found ?
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 23:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:10 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I use Dolphin a lot and thus I had an icon for it installed in my lower > > panel on my KDE desktop. > > > > One day after doing an update my Dolphin icon disappeared. When I went > > searching for the Dolphin application in the application launcher I > > couldn't find the Dolphin app in Utilities anymore. But I did find it > > in Lost and Found. And it doesn't have its icon anymore. > > > > Why did it go there ? How do I get it back where its supposed to be ? > > Looks like your filesystem is flaky. Lost+Found is where fsck leaves > files whose directory entries have been lost. In an earlier message you > said the disk is fine (I'm assuming you're talking about the same > machine), however that *doesn't* mean the filesystem hasn't accumulated > errors over time, especially if it hasn't been fsck'ed on a regular > basis. This might, also explain your boot problems. I'll give that some thought. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bad hard drive or bad kernels ???
On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 10:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 03:00 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 23:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> >> On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:22 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> >> Have you run memcheck? > >> > > >> > You mean fsck ? Something runs about every 20 boots and it comes back > >> > clean. I haven't specifically run fsck. > >> > >> I think he means memtest. It's a boot style program which > >> checks for common memory problems. > > > > Yes, memtest and not memcheck. Apologies for the mixup. > > Getting in here a little late... > > If your HD is failing, this may be a moot point, but one thing I > started doing was having memtest, MHDD, and System Rescue CD images in > my /boot partition and created GRUB boot options for them. > > If anyone is interested on how it's done I'll post some simple instructions. Please do ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?
I need to back up 20 GB of Windows data from a hard drive onto DVDs so that a Windows user can access it. I can read the Windows hard drive just fine. What software might I use to automagically split the data into DVD sized chunks and write it to a DVD ? It would be nice if it didn't put half of one dir on one DVD and the second half on another. I know this will happen with any dir that is larger than a DVD, but it would be nice if it didn't do that for the rest. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:54 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under > Linux ? > > I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem > for SSDs ? > > Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? UPDATE I ordered a 160 GB Intel 25nm SSD. I'll install it next week. Thanks for all the replies. Its very informative to see the discussion around this topic. Fedora rocks ! If anyone wants before and after speed tests, please supply the scripts they would like to see run. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 02:25 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:45 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I need to back up 20 GB of Windows data from a hard drive onto DVDs so > > that a Windows user can access it. I can read the Windows hard drive > > just fine. > > > > What software might I use to automagically split the data into DVD sized > > chunks and write it to a DVD ? > > > > It would be nice if it didn't put half of one dir on one DVD and the > > second half on another. I know this will happen with any dir that is > > larger than a DVD, but it would be nice if it didn't do that for the > > rest. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/discspan/ > > The just-released 0.2.0 version still has a couple of bugs. The --test > option does not prevent disc burning. You may also have to > edit /etc/discspan.ini to reduce the max size spec for a DVD blank by > 10-12M to prevent overflows. I've learned that not all DVD-Rs are the > same size. All DVD+Rs appear to be, and should burn faster. > > Hope this helps. It does. Thanks for the tip. I've downloaded it and it runs. I'll use it to write my discs tonight and report back. LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Lots of instabilities in F13 ?
Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? Firefox, Evolution, etc ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bad hard drive or bad kernels ???
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:47 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 10:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > >> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 03:00 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> >> Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> >> > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 23:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:22 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> >> > >> >> [...] > >> >> > >> >> >> Have you run memcheck? > >> >> > > >> >> > You mean fsck ? Something runs about every 20 boots and it comes > >> >> > back > >> >> > clean. I haven't specifically run fsck. > >> >> > >> >> I think he means memtest. It's a boot style program which > >> >> checks for common memory problems. > >> > > >> > Yes, memtest and not memcheck. Apologies for the mixup. > >> > >> Getting in here a little late... > >> > >> If your HD is failing, this may be a moot point, but one thing I > >> started doing was having memtest, MHDD, and System Rescue CD images in > >> my /boot partition and created GRUB boot options for them. > >> > >> If anyone is interested on how it's done I'll post some simple > >> instructions. > > > > Please do ! > > Here's the short version: > Hope you find this helpful. Thanks ! I'll be replacing the hard drive this week. After I do, I'll run this. Thanks again. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 09:25 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? > > > > Firefox, Evolution, etc ? > > > > Thanks > > > > I am not seeing any instabilities in Firefox, etc. Is yours a fresh install or an upgrade ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Enabling debuginfo for Evolution.
My F13 system has mostly stabilized with the exception of Evolution, which seems to crash regularly. I'm trying to submit a bugzilla bug report via the F13 built in bug reporting tool. (Cool and useful, btw.) However, it won't let me submit the bug without debug info and... # debuginfo-install evolution Loaded plugins: kmdl, priorities, refresh-packagekit enabling fedora-debuginfo enabling rpmfusion-nonfree-debuginfo enabling livna-debuginfo enabling rpmfusion-free-updates-debuginfo enabling rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-debuginfo enabling rpmfusion-free-debuginfo enabling updates-debuginfo Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist-debug error was 14: PYCURL ERROR 6 - "" Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: livna-debuginfo. Please verify its path and try again What do I do ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
SIPWitch: what exactly does it do ?
What exactly does SIPWitch do ? Its a SIP server. OK. I thought my VOIP service provider was a SIP server. Wait, they are. So SIPWitch is a server that will go between my SIP devices and my VOIP service provider ? I'm confused. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Ideas for integrating a SIP account, N900, Magic Jack, Linux, etc...
I'm looking for some ideas on overhauling/revamping our telephone system. We are two busy working professionals. We spend half our weekends away from home. My wife still has an iPhone. I'm getting an N900. We have a landline with (terrible) voice mail service. I want to tie it all together, somehow. I'd like to get a VOIP account somewhere and connect to it with a SIP server of some sort so that I can do things with that connection. I'd like all our voicemails to be stored on that SIP server, so we don't have to erase them, etc. Actually, I'd like to get them as emails that we can listen to and organize. I'd like to be able to call into my SIP server with the N900 and maybe the iPhone and then make (cheap) calls anywhere. Can one share a Magic Jack connection as a SIP service ? How can I use Linux to do some of this stuff without resort to a full blown asterisk installation ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ideas for integrating a SIP account, N900, Magic Jack, Linux, etc...
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 10:29 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > I don't have much experience with "consumer-aimed" VOIP systems, but > here's my two cents worth: Very informative post. Thanks for sharing. I'll comment once I digest everything that was in there. Running asterisk on a WRT is uber cool ! FWIW, people are doing some interesting things with unlocked Linksys PAP2 devices as well. I think I'm about ready to get rid of my landline for good. How does SIPWitch fit into all this ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ideas for integrating a SIP account, N900, Magic Jack, Linux, etc...
People are using PAP2 devices to connect to Magic Jack accounts, thus removing the need to use the Magic Jack USB dongle. Where does Google Voice fit into this ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How do I clone a drive and resize (downsize) a partition ? fdisk verify warning.
I'm moving /, /boot and swap from a conventional hard drive to an SSD. Both drives are 160 GB in size. I want to resize the /boot and swap partitions from 200 MB and 2 GB to 500 MB and 8 GB respectively. The first resize is because preupgrade now fails to run unless /boot is 500 MB or larger and the second because the swap file is supposed to be as big as the RAM in the computer and my laptop currently has 4GB and I want to upgrade to 8 GB in the future. So... I partitioned the SSD to the appropriate sizes. I then ran Clonezilla and installed the /boot data seemingly without any problem. I used the expert mode and told it to resize things to fit the new /boot partition size. Unfortunately, Clonezilla won't let me do the same for / because / on the SSD is 6 GB or so smaller than it was on the hard drive because /boot and swap are larger. So how do I move ALL the data from / on the hard drive to / on the sdd ? dd won't work because its for device files, not for partitions. If I use dd between the devices, it won't resize anything. Or should I do an outright dd and then use gparted to resize everything afterward ? Can one make cp copy EVERYTHING on one drive to another and keep the timestamps, etc, all correct ? I think I did this once a few years ago using tar, but I can't remember how and I think it took up a lot of disk space and took forever to run. BTW: if I verify the partition table for the SSD, it tells me Remaining 5165 unallocated 512-byte sectors Yet: Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0001ab7d Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 66 530113+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 67 8393962+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb31112 19457 147364245 83 Linux Am I missing something ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How do I clone a drive and resize (downsize) a partition ? fdisk verify warning.
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:35 +0100, John Austin wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 02:06 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I'm moving /, /boot and swap from a conventional hard drive to an SSD. > > > > Both drives are 160 GB in size. > > > > > I have tried a couple of methods successfully, here are my "hints" files > > I liked the fsarchiver method as I could save an "image file" containing a > complete > replica of "/", it was only 8.5GB when compressed in my case > 35mins to save the file, 20 mins to restore > Maybe of some help > > John I found the easiest way to do this was to download a copy of Ubuntu 10.4 and use gparted. It has a function to copy a partition from the source drive to the destination drive. Then I resized them.It was a bit slow and tedius, but it also worked flawlessly. Sometimes no excitement is good. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How do I clone a drive and resize (downsize) a partition ? fdisk verify warning.
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 15:33 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I found the easiest way to do this was to download a copy of Ubuntu 10.4 > > and use gparted. It has a function to copy a partition from the source > > drive to the destination drive. Then I resized them.It was a bit > > slow and tedius, but it also worked flawlessly. Sometimes no excitement > > is good. > > The Clonezilla and Parted Magic distros have all the tools that you need. I didn't try Parted Magic. I find Clonezilla to be clumsy. It throws an error and exits if you try to downsize the partition as you copy it from the source to the destination. gparted was excellent once I figured out that I had to copy a partition and paste it into an unallocated space before I resized it. It would be nice if you could do that in one step, but it does work doing it in two steps. I am running my cloned SSD drive right now. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How do I clone a drive and resize (downsize) a partition ? fdisk verify warning.
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:12 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > In Linux, "everything's a file." ;-) Sure. > No, dd won't "resize" a partition, but you can use it to copy the > filesystem from one partition to another of the same size or larger, > then just resize the filesystem using an appropriate tool. I've done > this. Not that hard at all. Agreed. That tool would be gparted. And if you use it to resize the partition, you might as well use it to copy the data as well. I too thought that Clonezilla and/or dd would be the easiest. In the end it was gparted. Prior to this I had never thought of gparted as a cloning tool. For those that aren't aware, gparted is VERY good at moving and resizing partitions. > > > Or should I do an outright dd and then use gparted to > > resize everything > > afterward ? > > I would dd the filesystem on each partition separately for safety. Not the > whole drive. Although, what you said above will work. Actually, it didn't. I'm not sure why and I don't have time to figure out why. I think you need to do something with the MBR too. In short, my advice to anyone who needs to do this is to use gparted. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: uuid -> /dev/sdx partition resize
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:19 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > I have 1 drive /dev/sda (which is actually a hardware raid 10 array > but Fedora doesn't know that) > > I want to resize my partitions bigger. > Going to use Clonezilla to make an image of each partition and save it > on another box. > > Then re-partition and format new bigger partitions. > Then restore images with Clonezilla. > > But I know UUID's will be wrong and I don't feel like creating new > ones. I just want to use /dev/sdx > > Am I correct in assuming I only need to edit /etc/fstab and /etc/grub.conf > or is there anything else I need to edit? I highly recommend using gparted. I used it via Ubuntu 10.4 live. I am not sure if its on the Fedora live distros or not. With gparted you don't need to copy any of the filesystem anywhere. It will resize the partition and move the data on the drive without copying it anywhere. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How do I clone a drive and resize (downsize) a partition ? fdisk verify warning.
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 17:10 -0700, JD wrote: > If you dd partition A on drive 1 to partition B from drive 2, and the > size of partition B is > LARGER that partition A, then the size of the FILESYSTEM on partition B > will be identical to size of partition A. In other words, the filesystem > superblock will retain the info about the size that it occupied on > partition A - and thus you will not be able to take advantage of the > full size of partition B. > If B is bigger than A, then you need to do something different: > Boot any Linux System Rescue CD, and DO NOT ALLOW IT TO MOUNT ANY LINUX > SYSTEM IT FINDS. > That is important. > After you have fdisk'ed your partitions on the new drive, > and mkfs'ed the correct filesystems on those partitions: > 1. mkdir -p /disk1/part1 /disk1/part2 ...etc > 2. mount these partitions. i.e. > mount /dev/sda1 /disk1/part1; mount /dev/sda2 /disk1/part2 > 3. mkdir -p /disk2/part1 /disk2/part2 etc > 4. mount these partitions. i.e. > mount /dev/sdb1 /disk2/part1; mount /dev/sdb2 /disk2/part2 > 5. cd /disk1/part1 > 6. tar cf - . | tar -C /disk2/part1 -xpf - > > similarly repeat steps 5 and 6 for part2, part3, ...etc; i.e. > cd /disk1/part2 > tar cf - . | tar -C /disk2/part2 > > As far as swap partitions (I asume you created them on disk 2: > mkswap /dev/sdbX where X is the number of the swap partition. > > Good luck Or you could just use gparted ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
Update I cloned the original 160 GB hard drive onto a new 160 GB SSD. The booting problem is even worse now. It used to take 2-6 tries to get my laptop to boot. Now it takes about 10. The SMART tests from the original 160 GB drive all came back fine. So did all the fscks. I've run the bios memory check and it comes back fine too. The boot problem also occurred when I booted the ubuntu 10.4 live CD. Any ideas ? Thanks On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 12:14 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: > If I power down my laptop via the usual KStart->Shutdown means, it can > take up to 4 restart attempts before it fully boots. > > It has no problem launching grub and the kernel selection screen. That > it does reliably every time. After that, there are issues. > > Twice I will get a back screen with a flashing cursor. Then I will get > an ehci -19 error. Then it will boot properly. > > My fscks are fine. I had a block error once, about two weeks ago, but > that was with an older F12 kernel after completely crashing during a > resume from suspend to RAM. > > Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ? Does this sound like a > kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ? > > Thanks > > $ uname -a > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Dec 21 > 06:04:56 UTC 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 18:53 -0700, Peter Langfelder wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Update > > > > I cloned the original 160 GB hard drive onto a new 160 GB SSD. The > > booting problem is even worse now. It used to take 2-6 tries to get my > > laptop to boot. Now it takes about 10. > > > > The SMART tests from the original 160 GB drive all came back fine. So > > did all the fscks. > > > > I've run the bios memory check and it comes back fine too. > > > > The boot problem also occurred when I booted the ubuntu 10.4 live CD. > > > > Any ideas ? > > Unless the BIOS memory test is exhaustive rather than quick, run > memtest. However, it could also be a motherboard problem or problem > with seating of the internal boards in the machine. I ran memtest for 8 hours +. No errors. Interestingly, the memtest CD boots instantly, every time. This looks like a kernel issue. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 > >>> wrote: > >>> None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --test and --disk-start > >>> options were my ideas. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure if I did something wrong but when I tried to use it to > >>> backup my pictures I ended up a disc short. I had ~21GB to backup on 5 > >>> discs and only 4 were burned. Like I said, I'm not sure if it's a bug > >>> or something I did so I'm very interested in your results. > >> > >> Richard, > >> > >> I sent James a very long epistle detailing the problems I encountered. > >> > >> --test didn't work for me, and my indicated 14-disc set ended up burning > >> only 13. I had to reduce the DVD+R size in the .ini file from 4.377G to > >> 4.365G to avoid overflow. I thought that might increase the disc count, > >> but it didn't. > > > > Looks like it wasn't just me then. I'll take a look as the code and > > see if it is something I can figure out. > > > > Richard > > > > Ok, here is the new and improved script. This patch has not yet been > accepted by the author but it should work for you. > > Summary of changes: > - Burns the correct number of discs (needed a disc_num - 1 because > lists start at 0, not 1) > - Now defaults to not spewing all the file names, use -v or --verbose > if you want to see it. > - Spits out how many files will be written to each disk > - "--test" redirects device to /dev/null, but still goes through all > the motions including generating the iso files. > > If you've already burned your files, just burn disc 1 over since > that's the one it was skipping. > > Let me know if you have any issues. Just one: Ready to burn disc 1/4. The disc capacity of the disc in /dev/sr0 (BD ROM BC-5500A) is 4.38G. growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -speed=16 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -V DiscSpan1 -A DiscSpan -p Unknown -iso-level 4 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points -path-list /tmp/tmpOKxvoj.discspanlist Executing 'mkisofs -V DiscSpan1 -A DiscSpan -p Unknown -iso-level 4 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points -path-list /tmp/tmpOKxvoj.discspanlist | builtin_dd of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0' Warning: Creating ISO-9660:1999 (version 2) filesystem. Warning: ISO-9660 filenames longer than 31 may cause buffer overflows in the OS. genisoimage: No such file or directory. Invalid node - '33B6018B5B284AA3487EA8F5BB393C6E/ka_prepostroll.sol=/media/%/brenda/Documents and Settings/Server Server/Application Data/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects/EF6WTTFH/affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/flash/premium_drop_v3.swf;jsessionid=33B6018B5B284AA3487EA8F5BB393C6E/ka_prepostroll.sol'. :-( write failed: Input/output error -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
Update I cloned my old conventional 160 GB hard drive onto a new Intel X25-M SSD using gparted. In doing so, the new partitions ended up being ext3 instead of ext4. The performance improvement is dramatic. It boots super fast. Even Evolution, which became a lethargic dog with the upgrade to F13, is snappy. Its amazing how fast Firefox and Open Office Writer open. Life is good. I have not done any disk optimizations whatsoever. Whatever the defaults are, that is what I am running. I did not perform any before and after tests, but I still have my old harddrive as a backup. I could always swap it in and run some tests if they are needed. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:45 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I need to back up 20 GB of Windows data from a hard drive onto DVDs so > that a Windows user can access it. I can read the Windows hard drive > just fine. > > What software might I use to automagically split the data into DVD sized > chunks and write it to a DVD ? > > It would be nice if it didn't put half of one dir on one DVD and the > second half on another. I know this will happen with any dir that is > larger than a DVD, but it would be nice if it didn't do that for the > rest. I am still looking for a solution to this problem. Any and all ideas will be appreciated. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Thunderbird and other email clients versus Evolution...
I've been using evolution forever. It works. Its very unstable in F13 and its generally been a bit of a hit and miss application for me. I have half a dozen email accounts and I am subscribed to about 20 mail lists. I have evolution sorting everything into about a dozen folders. How would Thunderbird fare doing this and how does it compare to Evolution ? What other email clients should I be interested in ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: uuid -> /dev/sdx partition resize
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 09:22 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:19 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > >> I have 1 drive /dev/sda (which is actually a hardware raid 10 array > >> but Fedora doesn't know that) > >> > >> I want to resize my partitions bigger. > >> Going to use Clonezilla to make an image of each partition and save it > >> on another box. > >> > >> Then re-partition and format new bigger partitions. > >> Then restore images with Clonezilla. > >> > >> But I know UUID's will be wrong and I don't feel like creating new > >> ones. I just want to use /dev/sdx > >> > >> Am I correct in assuming I only need to edit /etc/fstab and /etc/grub.conf > >> or is there anything else I need to edit? > > > > I highly recommend using gparted. I used it via Ubuntu 10.4 live. I > > am not sure if its on the Fedora live distros or not. > > > > With gparted you don't need to copy any of the filesystem anywhere. It > > will resize the partition and move the data on the drive without copying > > it anywhere. > > > > My initial question remains. > > Am I correct in assuming I only need to edit /etc/fstab and /etc/grub.conf > to boot from the new partitions? I can't answer that question. I copied the boot and / partitions from my old hard drive to the new one using gparted and it just worked. I didn't edit anything. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 08:57 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > > >>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 > > >>> wrote: > > >>> None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --test and --disk-start > > >>> options were my ideas. > > >>> > > >>> I'm not sure if I did something wrong but when I tried to use it to > > >>> backup my pictures I ended up a disc short. I had ~21GB to backup on 5 > > >>> discs and only 4 were burned. Like I said, I'm not sure if it's a bug > > >>> or something I did so I'm very interested in your results. > > >> > > >> Richard, > > >> > > >> I sent James a very long epistle detailing the problems I encountered. > > >> > > >> --test didn't work for me, and my indicated 14-disc set ended up burning > > >> only 13. I had to reduce the DVD+R size in the .ini file from 4.377G to > > >> 4.365G to avoid overflow. I thought that might increase the disc count, > > >> but it didn't. > > > > > > Looks like it wasn't just me then. I'll take a look as the code and > > > see if it is something I can figure out. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > Ok, here is the new and improved script. This patch has not yet been > > accepted by the author but it should work for you. > > > > Summary of changes: > > - Burns the correct number of discs (needed a disc_num - 1 because > > lists start at 0, not 1) > > - Now defaults to not spewing all the file names, use -v or --verbose > > if you want to see it. > > - Spits out how many files will be written to each disk > > - "--test" redirects device to /dev/null, but still goes through all > > the motions including generating the iso files. > > > > If you've already burned your files, just burn disc 1 over since > > that's the one it was skipping. > > > > Let me know if you have any issues. > > Just one: > > Ready to burn disc 1/4. > The disc capacity of the disc in /dev/sr0 (BD ROM BC-5500A) is 4.38G. > growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -speed=16 -use-the-force-luke=notray > -use-the-force-luke=tty -V DiscSpan1 -A DiscSpan -p Unknown -iso-level > 4 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points > -path-list /tmp/tmpOKxvoj.discspanlist > Executing 'mkisofs -V DiscSpan1 -A DiscSpan -p Unknown -iso-level 4 -l > -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points > -path-list /tmp/tmpOKxvoj.discspanlist | builtin_dd of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k > seek=0' > Warning: Creating ISO-9660:1999 (version 2) filesystem. > Warning: ISO-9660 filenames longer than 31 may cause buffer overflows in > the OS. > genisoimage: No such file or directory. Invalid node - > '33B6018B5B284AA3487EA8F5BB393C6E/ka_prepostroll.sol=/media/%/brenda/Documents > and Settings/Server Server/Application Data/Macromedia/Flash > Player/#SharedObjects/EF6WTTFH/affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/flash/premium_drop_v3.swf;jsessionid=33B6018B5B284AA3487EA8F5BB393C6E/ka_prepostroll.sol'. > :-( write failed: Input/output error Why does this -iso-level 4 as described in man mkisofs ? I'm obviously backing up data from a Windows machine. There is nothing I can do about those file names if I am to preserve their meaning. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 12:53 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Linuxguy123 > wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 08:57 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> > Let me know if you have any issues. > >> > >> Just one: > >> > >> Ready to burn disc 1/4. > >> The disc capacity of the disc in /dev/sr0 (BD ROM BC-5500A) is > 4.38G. > >> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -speed=16 -use-the-force-luke=notray > >> -use-the-force-luke=tty -V DiscSpan1 -A DiscSpan -p Unknown > -iso-level > >> 4 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points > >> -path-list /tmp/tmpOKxvoj.discspanlist > >> Executing 'mkisofs -V DiscSpan1 -A DiscSpan -p Unknown -iso-level 4 > -l > >> -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points > >> -path-list /tmp/tmpOKxvoj.discspanlist | builtin_dd of=/dev/sr0 > obs=32k > >> seek=0' > >> Warning: Creating ISO-9660:1999 (version 2) filesystem. > >> Warning: ISO-9660 filenames longer than 31 may cause buffer > overflows in > >> the OS. > >> genisoimage: No such file or directory. Invalid node - > >> > '33B6018B5B284AA3487EA8F5BB393C6E/ka_prepostroll.sol=/media/%/brenda/Documents > and Settings/Server Server/Application Data/Macromedia/Flash > Player/#SharedObjects/EF6WTTFH/affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/flash/premium_drop_v3.swf;jsessionid=33B6018B5B284AA3487EA8F5BB393C6E/ka_prepostroll.sol'. > >> :-( write failed: Input/output error > > > > Why does this -iso-level 4 as described in man mkisofs ? > > > > I'm obviously backing up data from a Windows machine. There is > nothing > > I can do about those file names if I am to preserve their meaning. > > I think you're asking, why does it use --iso-level4? From what I can > tell it is the least stringent as far as special characters, directory > depth, and filename length. If the files you want to backup can't be > written with --iso-level4, then you're pretty much out of luck and > need to pursue a different backup method. I'm asking why the file names are generating an error under level 4. >From what I can tell, it seems they should pass. I wish K3B could handle splitting data... ie give it a hunk of data larger than a single disk and it would let the user divy it up into multiple disks. I've run into this before with other data. Manual data splitting is a pain. THanks for the reply, btw. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:33 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > John Austin wrote: > > Note that AFAIK only ext4 supports the "discard" mount option > > btrfs also supports it. Is there a way to change a partition's type after its created ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13 udev rule boot warning messages
I'm getting this in my otherwise clean boot log. What, if anything, do
I need to do about them ?
Thanks
Starting udev: udevd[491]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev
version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS=
to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:3
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:3
udevd[491]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use
SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:5
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:11
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:13
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:15
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:17
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:19
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:21
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:23
udevd[491]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please
use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent
device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/kino.rules:25
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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 19:00 -0700, JD wrote: > I think you are having some real HARDWARE problems. > Do you have a standalone CD that does a comprehensive > test of all hardware components present? This problem appears to be resolved. It appears to have been a kernel/software issue. My laptop now boots immediately on the first try every time. I have no idea what changed to cause this. All I know is that it boots reliably now. Thanks for your suggestions and help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13 has reached "it rocks" status !
Just a quick note to say that F13 now rocks ! It works really, really well. Very fast, solid and slick. I had problems with Evolution and Firefox when I first installed. Crashing like crazy. Updates fixed both of those problems. I was having problems booting. That too appears to be fixed. Keep up the good work, people. LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 has reached "it rocks" status !
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:48 -0400, Mike Williams wrote: > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Linuxguy123 > wrote: > Just a quick note to say that F13 now rocks ! It works > really, really > well. Very fast, solid and slick. > > Keep up the good work, people. > > I second that opinion. There have been some glitches, but that's to > be expected. > > One area where I've noticed significant improvement is selinux. This > is the first release where I haven't just given up and run selinux in > permissive mode. In fact in some earlier releases I just disabled > selinux altogether. As of f13 with selinux in enforcing mode, the > most I've had to do is run restorecon -R -v when I copy new files into > the apache tree. I love ABRT. I reported 2 crashes that I wouldn't have otherwise using it. I am sure that ABRT will increase the stability of Linux over time because more things will get reported, better. Fedora is really getting slick and solid. KDE too. Better and better each release. I ran Windows 7 on my wifes laptop for a day. YUCK ! I can't wait to see the next KDE release go stable. LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
I need a PDF reader that will open this...
I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf Can anyone else ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:20 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 July 2010, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > >On 07/07/2010 01:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > >> PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > >> > >> http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_p > >>athways_map.pdf The document is only 4.8 MB. I downloaded it locally and it ran at the same speed. I don't think it has anything to do with the site. LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:25 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 07/07/10 19:01, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > > > Can anyone else ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Yes, I can, using AdobeReader_deu-9.3.2-1.i486 (the german acroread > version). I can zoom to 100% or more. Please try 200% or more and report back. It works fine for me at 100% as well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:28 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > I tested evince, it's really slow, but acroread will open it very > fast! Try scaling to 200% or more to see some detail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 20:03 +0300, Alan Holt wrote: > Just try Adobe Reader for Linux if you have some problems with Linux > based PDF reader I did. $ yum list \*AdobeReader\* Installed Packages AdobeReader_enu.i486 9.3.2-1 @adobe-linux-i386 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 has reached "it rocks" status !
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:12 +0100, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Related to that I should mention the many useful > developments in the Qt cross platform development kit are also > pleasing > to this C++ geek. Please tell us more. I too am interested in C cross platform development using Qt. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: knetworkmanager doesn't work; Evolution and Firefox start offline ?
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 14:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 12:53 -0600, linux guy wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > > > > Fix number 3 and the other two will go away. Or use nm-applet > > instead. > > In any case, make sure NM is controlling your interface. > > > > Agreed. What package is nm-applet in ? > > NetworkManager-gnome, I installed it and rebooted and now everything works. There must be an issue with the recent update to knetworkmanager. Thanks for your help -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 18:08 -0800, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 02/05/2010 04:33 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > This has me scratching my head. > > > > My access to www.rv.net is extremely slow. With both Konqueror and > > Firefox. And yet others say they have good access times. > > > > Confirm loading very slowly. > Tried it from 2 ISPs, browser makes no difference. I can see data load > very slowly with "curl -v 'http://www.rv.net/'" > I don't know who those "others" with good access times are, but either > they're on the same network as your site or they're used to dialup speeds. > So why do you and I have extremely slow access when others have fast or decent access ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 15:38 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > On 02/05/2010 06:33 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > This has me scratching my head. > > > > My access to www.rv.net is extremely slow. With both Konqueror and > > Firefox. And yet others say they have good access times. > > > > It sucks a big time from Chicago on Comcast. > > $ time curl 'http://www.rv.net'>/dev/null > % Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed TimeTime Time > Current > Dload Upload Total SpentLeft > Speed > 100 372710 372710 0565 0 --:--:-- 0:01:05 --:--:-- > 542 > > real 1m5.967s > user 0m0.014s > sys 0m0.031s Hate to burst your bubble, but this looks like a Linux problem. I get the same speed you do loading rv.net. But it loads instantly on my wife's laptop with Vista and IE. Instantly. Same network, same wireless router. Can you guys test access speeds on your networks with a Windows computer ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 15:58 -0800, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 02/08/2010 03:41 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Hate to burst your bubble, but this looks like a Linux problem. > > I get the same speed you do loading rv.net. But it loads instantly on > > my wife's laptop with Vista and IE. Instantly. Same network, same > > wireless router. > > > > Can you guys test access speeds on your networks with a Windows > > computer ? > > > > > > > > Confirmed > Very interesting problem, indeed Now what ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 00:04 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 8 February 2010 23:41, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 15:38 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > >> On 02/05/2010 06:33 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> > This has me scratching my head. > >> > > >> > My access to www.rv.net is extremely slow. With both Konqueror and > >> > Firefox. And yet others say they have good access times. > >> > > >> > >> It sucks a big time from Chicago on Comcast. > >> > >> $ time curl 'http://www.rv.net'>/dev/null > >> % Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed TimeTime Time > >> Current > >> Dload Upload Total SpentLeft > >> Speed > >> 100 372710 372710 0565 0 --:--:-- 0:01:05 --:--:-- > >> 542 > >> > >> real 1m5.967s > >> user 0m0.014s > >> sys 0m0.031s > > > > Hate to burst your bubble, but this looks like a Linux problem. > > > > I get the same speed you do loading rv.net. But it loads instantly on > > my wife's laptop with Vista and IE. Instantly. Same network, same > > wireless router. > > > > Can you guys test access speeds on your networks with a Windows > > computer ? > > No, but can you test access speed with Firefox and Vista to confirm it > isn't a Firefox problem. For me its slow with Konqueror too. "time curl rv.net > /dev/null" is browser independent. It loads instantly with Firefox on Vista and slow with Firefox on Linux. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 19:08 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:58:39 -0800 > Konstantin Svist wrote: > > > Confirmed > > Very interesting problem, indeed > > An awful lot of web sites check the user agent and load > completely different content and/or redirect to different > servers. You'd have to do something like get a tcpdump > to compare what content was being fetched to see if it > is really displaying the same exact web content or not. For me its slow with Konqueror too. It loads instantly with Firefox on Vista and slow with Firefox on Linux. "time curl rv.net > /dev/null" is browser independent, isn't it ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 19:08 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:58:39 -0800 > Konstantin Svist wrote: > > > Confirmed > > Very interesting problem, indeed > > An awful lot of web sites check the user agent and load > completely different content and/or redirect to different > servers. You'd have to do something like get a tcpdump > to compare what content was being fetched to see if it > is really displaying the same exact web content or not. "wget rv.net" averages less than 500 Bytes per second. No browser involved. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > That is starting to stir the synapse > > The problem is related to what is in the "syn, ack" packet coming from > 12.17.249.39. In the TCP Options it is sending "Window scale: 0 > (multiply by 1)". I think this is causing problems since later packets > have the TCP data segment being only 92 bytes from 12.17.249.39. > > While the same info is in the "syn, ack" the RHELv4 system seems to deal > with it OK and the TCP data segments from 12.17.249.39 are 1460 bytes. > > The "problem" can be fixed by > > echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling > > Now, while this fixes the problem for this site it may cause performance > issues with other sites. I don't know at this point and my head hurts. > :-) It is hurting since my RHELv4 system has tcp_window_scaling set to > 1 and it seems to deal with it. > Note: Make sure you issue the "echo" above after some quite time. The > connection must first be rst (reset) before the sides will renegotiate > the TCP/IP settings. (That too caused me some grief.) Questions: a) does an "echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling" put the system back to what it is now ? $cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling 1 b) does the command have to be issued after every reboot / login ? c) please tell us more on resetting the network connection. > I'll bugzilla it Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > You can "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling" to see it is > > set to "1" by default. > > > Yes...I know you said that already. Sorry to repeatmy head still > hurts :-( No problem. Thanks for your help ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:49 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > > >> That is starting to stir the synapse > >> > >> The problem is related to what is in the "syn, ack" packet coming from > >> 12.17.249.39. In the TCP Options it is sending "Window scale: 0 > >> (multiply by 1)". I think this is causing problems since later packets > >> have the TCP data segment being only 92 bytes from 12.17.249.39. > >> > >> While the same info is in the "syn, ack" the RHELv4 system seems to deal > >> with it OK and the TCP data segments from 12.17.249.39 are 1460 bytes. > >> > >> The "problem" can be fixed by > >> > >> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling It loads quickly now. Problem fixed. Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How the H&*()*) do I turn auto numbering in OO Writer completely OFF ?
Another OO update and even more stupid, silly auto numbering. How do I turn it right off, FOREVER ? [rant] I don't know who controls the design of the OO suite, but some of us DO NOT WANT auto paragraph numbering every time we start a paragraph with a number, hyphen or bullet point.Yeah, I'm sure auto numbering is nice for some people, but if I want a paragraph to be numbered, I'll format it as such manually OR I'll enable auto numbering for it myself. I DO NOT WANT a computer trying to figure out how it should be numbering what I write. I want to decide that. PERIOD. UNDERSTOOD ? I spend way, way more time **UNFORMATTING** the stupid number formatting that OO writer applies than I would spend adding number to the paragraphs I wish to have numbered. Isn't the purpose of software to make our lives easier ? What really rips me off is that this auto numbering "stuff" has been going on for YEARS in a predictable cycle. Use Writer for bit, find numbering to be irritating. Do a web search to try to figure out how to turn it off. Turn off some obscure switch hidden 18 layers deep in the GUI. Use it for a while. Upgrade to a newer version. Watch some new silly auto numbering scheme appear. Do a web search for how to turn it off... it continues. WHEN WILL IT STOP ? How do I turn off auto numbering in OO Writer so that it NEVER EVER EVER EVER appears in my work again ? Please, someone stop the lunacy ! [/rant] Thanks for listening... LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How the H&*()*) do I turn auto numbering in OO Writer completely OFF ?
I think I figured out how to turn off autonumbering. First of all, the help system on OO Writer version 3.3.1 Build 9420 is wrong. To turn it on, it says: "OpenOffice.org can automatically apply numbering or bullets as you type. To Enable Automatic Numbering and Bulleting 1. Choose Tools - AutoCorrect Options, click the Options tab, and then select Apply Numbering - Symbol. 2. Choose Format - AutoCorrect, and ensure that While Typing is selected." To actually turn auto numbering off, go to Format -> Autocorrect -> Autocorrect Options. Go to the Options tab. Unselect the "Apply numbering - symbol: *" option. While I was in the option tab I also turned off "Replace bullets with: *" At this point I don't know if this setting is saved for OO Writer globally or if I have to do it for every document I start. But at least its not tripping me up on my work tonight. I hope this helps someone. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 13 feature list seems kind of thin ?
Is it me or does the Fedora 13 feature list seem kind of thin for regular desktop users ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/FeatureList SIPWitch looks interesting. We already have KDE4.4, though I am anxiously awaiting 4.4.1... We finally got a 2.6.32 kernel in F12 the other day. Will F13 have a 2.6.33 ? Not much else ? Is there stuff going in that isn't listed ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: very odd screen goes dim bug in f12
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 20:21 -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > I just installed a fresh f12 - fully updated - lenovo T61p laptop - > using nouveau. > > If i go to a virtual terminal - or if I set the run level to 3 (no > graphics). > > After some period the screen goes dark - fine - however when I awaken > the screen the backlight on the LCD display is almost off - starting up > (or switching back to vt1) - the graphics are dimmed too. > > Rebooting does NOT restore the backlight - it remains dim. > > > If I now login - I have power applet on taskbar - suddenly (perhaps > when power applet starts) suddenly screen goes bright again!!! > > Something about text vt's .. and dpms truly mucks up the backlight. > > Anyone else seen this weird/nasty[1] bug? > Yes, I had that bug. Try using the proprietary nvidia driver instead of nouveau. Also try tweaking the monitor brightness settings in your various Power Profiles. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
SIP Witch, Skype and cell phones...
Could someone explain to me in plain english what SIP Witch does wrt to Skype ? If I am running SIP Witch and I have a VOIP connection between the server and the phone system, is there a way I could make a call anywhere with my cellphone via my VOIP connection ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SIP_Witch_Domain_Telephony Thanks LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SIP Witch, Skype and cell phones...
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 14:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:19 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Could someone explain to me in plain english what SIP Witch does wrt > > to Skype ? > > Skype doesn't use SIP as it has its own proprietary protocol, so I > wouldn't imagine it does anything. Thus my question. The web page states this: = This feature enables an entirely free software alternative to Skype using standard IETF protocols along with support for direct peer-to-peer secure communications such as possible with ZRTP capable softphones and without need for a mitigating "service provider" = Is SIP Witch a Skype server ? Ie can Skype phones connect to it and then it makes a SIP connection on there behalf ? Or do they mean it replaces Skype as a way to make a call using VOIP ? I'm confused as to what it does and I can't really find doc on it that explains things at that level. "GNU SIP Witch also is being introduced as a desktop VoIP mediation service to enable the construction of participatory bottom-up secure calling networks and to enable replacement of Skype with free software and published protocols." http://www.gnutelephony.org/index.php/GNU_Telephony Does this mean I can be my own SIP provider ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Replying to Yahoo emails in Evolution...
I use Evolution as my email client. I use gmail accounts to group my various interests via different email addresses and receive my emails via their SMTP server services. Everything works great except that when I get an email from a sender using a Yahoo account, the content is in some sort of text box frame thingy. And even that is OK (I can read it and such) except that when I type text in to reply to something it doesn't handle prefacing the quoted text lines with a ">", for example. Anyone else run into this ? Is there an easy way to work with these sorts of emails ? Thanks LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SIP Witch, Skype and cell phones...
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 19:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:46 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 14:30 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:19 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > > Could someone explain to me in plain english what SIP Witch does wrt > > > > to Skype ? > > > > > > Skype doesn't use SIP as it has its own proprietary protocol, so I > > > wouldn't imagine it does anything. > > > > Thus my question. The web page states this: > > = > > This feature enables an entirely free software alternative to Skype > > using standard IETF protocols along with support for direct peer-to-peer > > secure communications such as possible with ZRTP capable softphones and > > without need for a mitigating "service provider" > > = > > "Alternative to Skype" means just that. It doesn't mean "Skype". > > > Is SIP Witch a Skype server ? Ie can Skype phones connect to it and > > then it makes a SIP connection on there behalf ? > > No, there are no Skype servers except those that belong to the Skype > company. > > > Or do they mean it replaces Skype as a way to make a call using VOIP ? > > Once again, Skype *does not use SIP*. You can have a VOIP service using > SIP, or you can use Skype. The two do not interoperate. They are not > compatible in any way. Some phones may be able to talk both, but that's > a different matter. Thanks So SIP Witch is a SIP server, meaning that I could get a SIP capable phone, set up SIP Witch with a POTS connection and connect my phone through SIP Witch to the phone system ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SIP Witch, Skype and cell phones...
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 10:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 09:15 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > [...] > > So SIP Witch is a SIP server, meaning that I could get a SIP capable > > phone, set up SIP Witch with a POTS connection and connect my phone > > through SIP Witch to the phone system ? > > I've no idea what SIP Witch is. RTFM. Its very hard to figure this out from the documentation. It needs a high level overview. > But consider this: if it's a > server it has to be connected to the net. Connecting to a simple POTS > line with no network on top of it isn't going to get you anything. I think SIPWitch is Asterisk for the home. You connect it to the Internet and to a POTS via an adapter. Then you call into it with your SIP phone and it connects you to the POTS system. That is my guess. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SIP Witch, Skype and cell phones...
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 10:54 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:50:15 -0430, > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 09:15 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > [...] > > > So SIP Witch is a SIP server, meaning that I could get a SIP capable > > > phone, set up SIP Witch with a POTS connection and connect my phone > > > through SIP Witch to the phone system ? > > > > I've no idea what SIP Witch is. RTFM. But consider this: if it's a > > server it has to be connected to the net. Connecting to a simple POTS > > line with no network on top of it isn't going to get you anything. > > I wouldn't go that far. You can do fun stuff within your house independent > of whether or not you are connected to POTS and/or the internet. > > You can get hardware that will either talk to phones or the telco for > prices that are not cheap, but not out of line for a hobbiest. Unfortunately > the people that produce the most popular driver for such hardware refuse > to upstream their GPL code so that they can dual license it. So the code > isn't available in Fedora and using it from ATRPMS is dicey if you like to > track recent kernels or rawhide. Tell me more about this, please. > I have a play setup at home, but currently am just using it as an intercom > system between upstairs and downstairs. I don't have a POTS connection > currently and was having some issues with some things I was doing to connect > the phones to a SIP/IAX server (asterisk) and haven't made time to play with > it recently. I never thought of that... get a bunch of VOIP phones, preferably wireless and one could implement a pretty neat home phone system. That is one of our problems... all our phone messages end up in one voice mail box and its always full. Does SIPWitch handle voicemail ? Will SIPWitch send an email to a user when it receives a voicemail ? As you can tell, telecommunications is a bit of a problem around our house. I'd love to solve that problem with Linux. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How do I turn down the volume on a system beep ?
F12 fully up to date. KDE sessions. System beeps, ie Evolution receiving a new email are very loud. How do I turn them down ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How do I turn down the volume on a system beep ?
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 18:30 +0100, Henrik Frisk wrote: > >> System beeps, ie Evolution receiving a new email are very loud. How do > >> I turn them down ? > > > > I want to keep the volume I have for media listening, I want to keep the > > system warnings but just at a lower volume. > > > $ xset -b 50 Its actually xset b 50, not xset -b 50. Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How do I turn down the volume on a system beep ?
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 19:16 +, Charlie Brej wrote: > On 03/22/2010 05:36 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 18:30 +0100, Henrik Frisk wrote: > >>>> System beeps, ie Evolution receiving a new email are very loud. How do > >>>> I turn them down ? > >>> > >>> I want to keep the volume I have for media listening, I want to keep the > >>> system warnings but just at a lower volume. > >>> > >> $ xset -b 50 > > > > Its actually xset b 50, not xset -b 50. > > > > Thanks ! > > Actually, neither of those work on x86 PCs. There is an option in X but > it doesn't do anything. You can change the pitch but not the volume. I > tried a while back to offer a patch to the kernel to enable this, but no > one was that interested because the system bell was essentially dead. If its not used, why is it beeping on my machine ? Do I have something set up wrong in my sound configuration ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence (Evolution comments)
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:22 -0700, Wayne Feick wrote: > I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird. > > I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for > the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was > calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the > promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming. > > Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes > up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but > apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like > network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying > 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since > it grows over time. > > I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. > When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks. > > Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar > and I'm not looking back. > > Wayne. I've been using Evolution as my only email client since 2002. I agree that it has a number of shortcomings. Its been an up and down road for sure but one thing that I can say is that I have not lost a single email in the 8 years I have been using it. I think this relates to the fact that Evo using plain text files to store emails. Prior to Evo, Outlook used to lose my emails and crash on a regular basis. I really wish that someone would inject some life into Evo. I've been looking at a gray Evo screen for 8 years. How about a little color ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
No sound from Amarok (phonon/ pulseaudio)
F12 /x86, fully up to date, except I can't boot the most recent kernel. $uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32.10-90.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Mar 23 10:04:28 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Sound works for everything except Amarok. Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Sound System Configuration shows "Configure Phonon" which then lists pulse Audio as my sole option. $ yum list phonon Installed Packages phonon.i686 4.4.0-3.fc12 @updates $ yum list \*pulse\* Installed Packages pulseaudio.i686 0.9.21-5.fc12@updates pulseaudio-gdm-hooks.i686 0.9.21-5.fc12@updates pulseaudio-libs.i686 0.9.21-5.fc12@updates pulseaudio-libs-glib2.i686 0.9.21-5.fc12@updates pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf.i686 0.9.21-5.fc12@updates wine-pulseaudio.i686 1.1.38-1.fc12@updates xmms-pulse.i686 0.9.4-8.fc12 @fedora How do I get sound working for Amarok ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: No sound from Amarok (phonon/ pulseaudio)
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 11:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > F12 /x86, fully up to date, except I can't boot the most recent kernel. > > > > $uname -a > > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32.10-90.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Mar 23 > > 10:04:28 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > > > Sound works for everything except Amarok. > > > > Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Sound System Configuration > > shows "Configure Phonon" which then lists pulse Audio as my sole option. > > Does the 'test' button work or do anything? Nope. > > > $ yum list phonon > > Installed Packages > > phonon.i686 > > 4.4.0-3.fc12 @updates > ... > > How do I get sound working for Amarok ? > > What does pavucontrol say is your PA output device? "Internal Audio Digital Stereo (IEC958)" On the Configuration tab, Internal Audio is shown as "Digital Stereo Duplex (IE958)" On the Playback tab, Amarok is the only application shown, other than System Sounds. Thanks for your help, Rex ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
This page crashes konqueror ?
I'm finding that this page crashes konqueror. http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/05/pandora-radio-on-n900-pypianobar.html Can anyone confirm this ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Konqueror bookmark list VERY hard to navigate.
This has been bothering me for a while. I think its time to discuss it. I use Konqueror as my primary web browser. I probably have 1000 or so bookmarks in Konqueror, arranged into about 50 folders and sub folders. I find it very hard to be able to open the bookmark folder I want without opening a folder I don't want. It gets really bad when I want to open a folder 2 or 3 layers deep. The bookmarks are also opening in the wrong display on multi display systems. Anyone else share these issues ? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Massively parallel (8 to 10 stream) music server/generator ?
We are considering the purchase of a house. It has about 8 "zones" ie kitchen, living room, bedroom, patio, library, etc. Each zone has 2 to 4 speakers in it, all of which are wired such that they terminate in the utility room. The builder of the house did not provide any wiring for an A/V controller in any of the zones, nor an IR extender. I'd like to build a server that generates music for each of the zones. I'm thinking that it would serve web pages that would allow users to select various music material and direct it to one or more zones via any device that supports a web browser. On the hardware end of things, I'm thinking one could use 1 USB sound card plus an amplifier for each zone. How many USB sound cards could a single i5 ish PC running linux in console mode feed ? (MP3, wav, flac formats) Sometimes one will want to play the same music simultaneously across multiple zones. Ie, during dinner, one might want to play music in the kitchen and the dinning room. Is there a way to sync playback between multiple USB sound cards ? Is there a better way to generate music for this house ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Massively parallel (8 to 10 stream) music server/generator ?
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 07:57 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > Check out LinuxMCE. It'll do a lot more than just pump music out to > your various zones. That's what I'm going to deploy. > > I'd offer more details here, but I think you'd be better off reading the > site and trolling the forums. When you're ready, get a forum account > and start asking questions - lots of people willing to help! Thanks for the link. It looks pretty impressive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fc14->fc15 via preupgrade hangs during first boot
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 15:12 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 13:24 -0700, Monty Clift wrote: > > the screen is stuck for more than an hour and the last line written > > was: > > > > > > Started LSB: Start up the OpenSSH server daemon > > and there is a blinking cursor > > There are plenty of possibilities, but this could mean that the video > driver did not start. Try hitting CTRL-ALT-F3. If that produces a text > console with a login prompt, then this is your problem. > > In particular, if you had been using the nvidia proprietary drivers, you > will need to install it again for your new kernel. I'm having the same problem. I'm using the proprietary nvidia drivers. Ctrl-Alt-F3 does NOT produce a command prompt. Any ideas ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Novel Moonlight on Firefox 4.0 ???
I need to view a website that requires Microsoft's Silverlight to access. I have installed Novell's Moonlight 3.99.03 on Firefox 4.0.1. It tries to start, but there are several error messages and then it does nothing. Has anyone been able to get Moonlight working in Firefox ? Do I need to do anything special or have any special packages installed ? Thanks LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Novel Moonlight on Firefox 4.0 ???
> Can you provide a URL I can use to see if mine is working? I can't > seem to find a test site I replied with a site privately. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Novel Moonlight on Firefox 4.0 ???
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:58 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > On 06/07/2011 01:25 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > >>Can you provide a URL I can use to see if mine is working? I can't > >> seem to find a test site > > > > I replied with a site privately. > > > > > > > The site works fine on my end with no error messages. If I remember > correctly I went into firefox tools/add-ons/extensions and killed > moonlight from there first before installing the latest version What do you mean by you killed it ? Where did you get the latest version and how did you install it ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
So how is F15 (KDE) ?
How is F15-KDE, overall ? I'm still running F14, due to problems rebooting during the pre-upgrade process. Is it worth my time to troubleshoot and fix this issue or should I just keep running F14 ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Status of ESATA in F13 ?
I am wondering how ESATA devices are supposed to work in F13 these days. Does F13 support hot plugging of ESATA devices ? Are they only recognized at boot time ? Are they supported at all ? Thanks $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 09:42:24 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Urgent: KDE printing custom paper sizes ?
I'm trying to print 6.5x10 cardstock from KDE in F13 on a Dell 1720 networked printer. No matter what I do I cannot get the printing to align with the paper. It works just fine on 8.5x11. Any ideas on how to make this work ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Urgent: how do I setup/run gnome in F13 ?
I'm a long time KDE user. I'm having printer problems in KDE tonight and I desperately need to get something printed. I would like to log into a Gnome session and try printing from there. (different infrastructure ?) However, when I log out of my KDE session, there is no option to boot Gnome. How do I boot a Gnome session these days ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Urgent: how do I setup/run gnome in F13 ?
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:10 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:48:23 -0600 > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > I'm a long time KDE user. I'm having printer problems in KDE tonight > > and I desperately need to get something printed. > > > > I would like to log into a Gnome session and try printing from there. > > (different infrastructure ?) However, when I log out of my KDE > > session, there is no option to boot Gnome. How do I boot a Gnome > > session these days ? > > yum groupinstall gnome-desktop > > then logout and at the gdm screen: > > Select your user > Choose gnome from the sessions menu > type in your password > > And you should be in a gnome session. This worked. Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Urgent: KDE printing custom paper sizes ?
I found a work around. I generated my 6.5 x 10 image. I then created an 8.5x11 image and placed the 6.5x10 within it. Then I printed the 8.5x11 image. Its not a nice way to do it, but it works. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
OT ? I'm about this close to buying an iPad...
Hi people. I need to vent... I'm getting frustrated with Linux. Well, not Linux per se, and not Fedora, but the whole experience part of things. I desperately need to do something about the audio system in my car. Its got a head unit that doesn't have an aux in, nor does it support mp3s, etc. It needs to be replaced ASAP. I also need navigation, desperately. Its been that way for a while. I considered doing a car PC. I didn't like all the engineering required to do that, so I nixed it. I considered embedding a HP Tablet in the dash. I took a close look at them and nixed it due to display issues, heat, etc. So I've been waiting and waiting. I considered buying a dedicated head unit with nav but the screens are too small and they seem to go out of date faster than bread on the counter. Along comes the iPad. And it seems to do everything I want. Plays MP3s. Does nav. Bright screen. Affordable. And if you check youtube, lots of people have embedded them in cars. But being an OS guy, I want a machine running Linux, not iOS or whatever its called. Where is it ? I keep reading stories about dozens of tablet devices running Linux/Android/Meego on Slashdot, but where are they ? While I have your attention, I also own a Nokia N900 phone. Right now its running Maemo, which works, but is hardly what one would call elegant. Actually, there are some things that don't work, but that is another story. Nokia is saying they will be shipping Meego in October. I have my fingers crossed. Another thing I am waiting on is KDE 4.6. I am pretty disappointed by KDE 4.5 I know it was a bug fix release, but I expected more. At this point I REALLY have to applaud Apple. They really seem to have their act together. The various vendors in the Linux camp really need to get their butts in gear and start delivering. Hardware companies need to get their tablets OUT into the market. Nokia et al need to get Meego OUT and get some nice apps written for it. (Have you looked at the iPad and iPhone app store lately ?) And the KDE camp needs to finish delivering on their vision for what KDE 4 is supposed to be. I wait, growing more impatient day by day. LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT ? I'm about this close to buying an iPad...
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 11:26 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > > Anyway... Apple locks down the iPad pretty tight, which makes for a > robust but very inflexible system. Beware. If you like the freedom of > Linux, you may chafe at the restrictions in the iPad. That is basically what is keeping me from buying one. That and no USB port. Is anyone running Linux on an iPad ? Is it practical ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT ? I'm about this close to buying an iPad...
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 16:39 -0600, Phil Meyer wrote: > Solve that with an FM tuner for $20.00-$30.00 US. Where from ? I need AM and FM. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: hell freezes over!
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 14:03 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/rss > That is a huge, supreme acknowledgment of the influence that Linux is having on the market place. Windows is dying. Totally left out of the mobile computing device market. Apple and Linux (Android, Meego, et al) are the new way forward. Apple is a dictatorship. The new king maker is Linux. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: hell freezes over!
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 14:03 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/rss > Next up: nVidia ? Maybe not, but they sure seem to have improved their proprietary Linux driver a lot recently. I know, I know... it still isn't what we need and it should be open. But lets at least appreciate that they care about Linux. :runs for cover wearing his flameproof suit: LG -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
