Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
I am in the US, so my observations may not apply to your region.
("Your" meaning all of the readers, not just GizmoGuy)
thegizmoguy wrote:
> Ubuntu is clearly in competition with Microsoft or this bug thread
> wouldn't exist!
Ferrari is not in competition with Ford. But Ford's larger market share
means that they can strongly effect Ferrari policy. For example, you
are unlikely to find Ferrari break pads in the local O'Reilly's.
> "There is a lot of crappy hardware out there !"
>
> Yes, I agree with you here. Except Ubuntu/Linux needs to start playing
> in the hardware world instead of waiting for the hardware world to play
> with them. The problems that I described can likely be replicated on
> dozens of other systems that have been mass produced by the big 3
> vendors. With a roughly 3% market share, I doubt Linux will ever in the
> near future be able to have market-power in the way that you speak of.
Exactly how? If a hardware vendor does not want to play, how do you
make them? But you are underestimating market power here. Look in the
server space. How many server parts have no Linux drivers? Did you
every wonder why the $3000 multi-function printer/fax devices all have
Linux support but the $110 one at Walmart does not? It means that you
have to stop buying crap, and purchase supported hardware. I do this
for all my hardware, even if it is destined to be infected with Windows.
> "Ask your tech if he/she uses Linux, all of the
> good ones do and many feel that UBUNTU/GNOME is over simplified (I
> disagree)"
>
> Well, I am what you would call at the power user/tech. All of my
> comments are from (me) who DOES research, hunt down, trouble shoot, etc.
> I still don't understand why so many people believe that you must be
> more skilled just because you can memorize a million commands to run
> from the terminal when Microsoft simplified the process with
> configuration utilities and "Properties" menus. For example, it would
> be absurd within windows if one had to start modifying the registry and
> manually adding dll files to get a wireless card working. Yet, in
> Ubuntu, every thing that I wanted to do configuration wise felt like I
> had to hack the entire "registry" of config files via the terminal.
> (I'm not the only one that mentions this), but things that shouldn't be
> THAT difficult to do in Ubuntu require hours of googling and tutorials
> to actually accomplishothers mentioned setting up DSL connections
> required an inordinate amount of work.
I have had to do just that within Windows on many occasions. Support
for security camera DVR cards are notorious for sending .reg files or
telling you to do it. As to why command line; The GUI does not have all
the options. For example, set up autologin on XP Pro without typing.
At best, you have to launch a GUI tool with no shortcut available. For
that matter, where the hell is "start -> Run" on Vista? It became an
obscure and unlabeled key command. All of your Linux problems are also
in Windows. It is just that in Windows, you allready know the answer.
Also, I have 75 Ubuntu systems in production. Other than my home
system, they are all set up in a way that can be done with only the GUI.
Of course I used a script, because it is easier to be consistent that
way... You would do that on Windows too, correct? And my systems are
used by non-technical users. The only complaint I get is "Why can't I
run this virus infected attachment I got in e-mail?"
> Now because I'm actually trying to adopt Linux, I've been willing to
> overlook that to a certain extent, but there is a reason I'm typing this
> message in XP again and not Ubuntu. I don't feel hindered in XP, I feel
> like the computer works for me and not me for the computer. In Ubuntu
> it's vice versa. Sure Ubuntu has speed and security benefits (and other
> aesthetic benefits), but a well managed and configured XP box can get
> very close to Ubuntu in those aspects. I've just been looking to adopt
> Linux since Windows 7 is looking to be a huge flop and I can't stay with
> XP for another 4 years.
Setting up a nice custom Linux machine takes me 2 hours. (10 minutes of
work and 1.5 hours of loading, copying and patching unattended.) With
XP it takes me 6, or 8 if the net is slow. If you want my script, I can
e-mail you a copy.
> So in summation, Ubuntu (and linux in general) needs to get out of the
> infant stage where "only geeks that have nothing else to do" can use it,
> configure it, and manage it before it can ever become serious
> competition to Windows. Now I'm a geek, and that's why I've even given
> Ubuntu (and OpenSUSE, and Mandriva, and Kubuntu) a chance, but I have
> other things to do besides spending (literally 6 hours yesterday)
> trying to get simple things done that I could do in XP within 2 hours.
> Would Ubuntu probably work much better on my desktopyou betbut
> you can't neglect the vast laptop user base t
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
thegizmoguy wrote: > For the autologin in XP watch how fast it can be done: > > Start-> Run-> control userpasswords2..can figure it out from there. A command line abstraction. Start -> run and a box for a command line option is not GUI. > I'd bet in linux it would be a 50 line config file modification all done > via the terminal and gedit. System -> Administration -> Login Window. Click the "Security tab" and select the login option and user. Click "Close." This can be done with no keyboard attached. The problem is not what Linux can do, but what you know. You know about userpasswords2, or at least where to look. You do not know that autologin is under a security tab. This is an education problem masking as a usability problem. I will admit that it is not helped by people posting obscure command line stuff that is hard to understand. As to why the devs are not on the user lists... It gets old answering the same question over and over again. Most of which are answered with a search. An example is that ample evidence of 8x series nvidia graphics cards and known issues with the nv driver. That is why I have a 7950gtx in my system. You say you "I don't have the luxury of having a system handed to me that works." Why not? Either learn the hard way, or get a good example from Dell. Both have a cost. Was your Windows knowledge free? This gets to the heart of bug 1. Microsoft is so common that the workarounds for the issues they have are well known. Linux workarounds are hidden, fragmented, and often obscurely written. That is a real problem, but a different one that what you are talking about. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN
Kamujin wrote: > @Alberto > > Telling people that 0.7 is "better in many ways" is not very compelling > considering that application is missing critical functionality. 0.7 is > not ready for a release environment. More troubling to me is how this is happening more and more often... Major bugs that go thought the entire beta, AND the entire life cycle with no fix! Lets start with QEMU on Gutsy. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144368 Found to be BOCH BIOS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123185 Fixed in Intrepid... Gutsy is still broken. Hard Drive cycles? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 Broken since Gutsy, and still having issues... Only Bug 1 is longer running. It seems to me that regressions are coming faster with every release. Every other bug I have subscribed to has bee fixed in the lifecycle of that release. But we are getting more and more that are only fixed with an upgrade. (Like the Intrepid Kernel locks) How do we bug this problem? -- Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/259168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN
jmcantrell wrote: > If you're looking for the most rock-solid Ubuntu experience, then you > should stick with the LTS releases. The last one was Hardy Heron. Using > the non-LTS releases, you have to understand that they're going to be a > bit more bleeding edge. At the very least, you should wait to verify > that packages which are critical to you are not broken before upgrading. The "fix" for the Hardy Heron kernel freeze is to upgrade to the Intrepid kernel, or regress to Gutsy. Also the broken mjpeg streaming in Firefox that will not be fixed until 3.05. My entire enterprise is frozen a Gutsy right now as it is stable, and Hardy is not. And since the fixes to the two major bugs for me are version changes, they can not happen within Hardy. Which sidesteps the point of how these bugs are surviving through extensive betas, and 6 months of production. There is a very good chance that the "fix" for this bug will be regression to Intrepid network manager, or the next version that can't ship in Intrepid. My point is that this is getting far too common. I too have been around since the Badger, and Gutsy BOCH BIOS was the first time I saw this. But I have been seeing more lately. And this is way off topic. What is on topic is will there be a fix, a regression, or a backport type "fix?" And how can we better QC the beta so that the regression can happen before the freeze? -- Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/259168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN (bad NT-Domain escaping)
1longtime wrote:
> Any fix for this?
>
> Many users have experienced this bug, Google around and see the numerous
> forums. VPN connections were working fine until I upgraded from Ubuntu
> 8.04 to 8.10.
>
> VERY disappointing to find bugs for important services after an upgrade.
While I agree, we do have a fix in "proposed" and it could use a lot of
testing. Grab it and post back. (Under Software Sources, enable
"proposed" and find the update. Update only it {unless you want to test
everything} and disable proposed to make normal updates easier.)
--
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[Bug 263441] Re: kompozer crashes in intrepid when opening the recent files menu
Me too, on a fresh Intrepid with a brand new repo install of Kompozer. All sub menus crash out, but keyboard navigation is stable. There was also a random crash that started this odyssey. :) I can't remember what caused it. -- kompozer crashes in intrepid when opening the recent files menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263441 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime
ktulu77 wrote: > Hi. > > I have a XPS M1530 and I have the strange HD clicks 1 or 2 times per > minutes. > > I am on ubuntu 9.04 x64. I don't understand why this bug is marked as > fixed. > > I don't understand what I have to do to fix this problem. The bug report > is huge. What can I do to save my HDD and do not lost my data ? The answer is to enable laptop mode. However, you point is valid that you have to know to do this! So, I agree that this bug should not be marked as "Fixed" if there is no intuitive way to know how to save your drive. -- High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Ittay Dror wrote: > houstonbofh wrote: > >> This really shows that we have a perception problem. I am addressing >> your issues, not to attack you, but to show you other answers. The real >> question is why you did not see them. >> > Why do you dismiss this as a problem of perception and not a real > problem? Do you really think that Ubuntu's only problem is perception > and not finding information? See my comments inline. Dude! A perception problem IS a real problem! It is huge. It is real. And it is our biggest barrier to adoption. It absolutely needs to be fixed to even hope to resolve Bug 1. > I have compiz disabled and I have 4 desktop applications running - > thunderbird, terminal, firefox and eclipse. this is what free shows: > > free > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 404466427725561272108 0 476432 931564 > -/+ buffers/cache:13645602680104 > Swap: 2851496 108962840600 > > So 1.3GB is used. I do not have eclipse. I do have a LOT of firefox instances and tabs open, and my mail folder is about 2 gig in Thunderbird. l...@boat:~$ free total used free sharedbufferscached Mem: 2074856 8391481235708 0 131500338428 -/+ buffers/cache: 3692201705636 Swap: 6080560 06080560 > Running the same set of applications in windows doesn't take so much > memory. I have now running outlook, firefox, word, internet explorer, > emule and sketchup and the total used memory is 871MB. Or it could be your instance, as I am fitting in 2 gig just fine. Or it could be eclipse... But it is not "Linux stinks!" > My laptop is Thinkpad T61. I think the Thinkpad line of laptops is very > reliable and widely used that it should just work. I have currently 2 Dell Inspirons, a Latitude, a IBM T42, a Compaq Presario 2200 with no issues at all on Jaunty. One of them had major issues on Hardy. So by my anecdotal evidence, the "Thinkpad line" works, and by your it does not. Again, it sounds like an issue specific to you. >> Same with Windows. Buy well supported hardware and it will work. Buy >> poorly supported hardware and it won't. I have a Paperport scanner that >> won't work under XP or better, but will work in Linux. >> > As mentioned, my laptop is Thinkpad T61. I think it should be well supported What have you done to support that opinion? A quick google shows more than a few issues with Linux on this laptop. Or did you just assume it would be supported? > I just made sure. To check the C drive in Windows, click Win+E, > right-click on C, select properties->Tools and click Check Now in Error > Checking. To fix errors you probably need to reboot, but just to check, > there's no need. I do not have Windows handy, but with XP and older, to do a low level check, you needed to reboot. Perhaps Vista improved this... I do not know. > And even if I have to reboot, why is it so hard to ask a disk check? Why > isn't there some intuitive way of doing it from the desktop? Why is > there no way of defragmenting (I know, Ext is built so it allocates > space in the center, so less fragmentation occurs, still over time > there is fragmentation) Did you look at the link? There is a way, but it is not installed by default. As to defragmenting, that is because it is not needed, and is not possible in the typical way. However, if you really feel you need it, there are tools if you remount EXT2. You will find that it takes time, and does not help. In a way, you are saying, "Where is the geese fitting to lubricate my ball joints?" on a car with sealed ball joints. I would say sealed ball joints are an improvement. > I think the bug is that Ubuntu uses a lot of memory, freezes, forces me > to reboot when I need to take my laptop and has several usability issues. Yet there seem to be many people with uptimes over a year, running in far less memory that a typical Windows system, and find Linux far easier to use than Windows. So how do we get you from where you are now, to where I am now? This is a serious question. Would it take something like a "Disk Defragmenter" Application that when you run it tells you that it is not needed and gives the sealed ball joint analogy? To fix this perception bug, which it is absolutely vital that we address, we need to first fix your individule problems, and then figure out why you could not, and than make it so that others can fix them more intuitively. No small task... -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Ittay Dror wrote: > So what you are saying is that since everything is working fine for you, > then it means nothing is wrong with Linux and I have a perception > problem. So everything is fine with Linux if not for the perception > issue? I think not. I think you keep missing my point. Lets say that two people apply for a job at a bank. One is dressed in a professional suit, and is well groomed. The other is in black jeans and a black T-shirt, has a Mohawk and piercings. The perception will be that the later of the two is totally unsuited for bank work. This may not at all be the case, but it doesn't matter if he never gets an interview. This is our perception problem. If everyone thinks Linux is broke (regardless of if it is or not) no one will try it. If they never try it, they will never find out if it is better. > Btw, For some reason, I can't suspend to ram any more. Either X crashes > or nothing happens. I've opened a bug, but I can't say I'm holding my > breath. Good. Holding your breath rarely helps anything. But also keep looking for issues, and don't wait on the bug people. That can take a while. (Example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 ) > I have been using linux for 12 years, the last 8 exclusively. And > professionally I've always used Unix / Linux. And I'm about to quit. OK. Let me know how that works for you. Seeing as how I have to support everything else out there, I can tell you that "every dog has his fleas." These are all just tools and use the one that works for you. But you can actually fix problems in Linux. Try that with Vista. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
This really shows that we have a perception problem. I am addressing your issues, not to attack you, but to show you other answers. The real question is why you did not see them. Ittay Dror wrote: > Ever since Ubuntu 8.04 I have seen a regression in how usable the > distribution is for me: > 1. It uses a lot of memory: I had to upgrade my memory recently since 2GB > were not enough for 4 applications (thunderbird, terminal, firefox and > eclipse). My computer at home, with 1GB of memory and Windows runs much more > applications without problem. I do not have a single system with over 2 gig. My laptop is 512 meg, and I am currently running several applications. What are you starting? And why do you feel this is an Ubuntu issue, and not a user issue? > 2. It is not stable: in 8.04 and 8.10 X used to crashed a lot. Now I get random freezes of the laptop. I am with you here. There is a known bug in the 8.04 kernel, and Intrepid had a few regressions. Most of the Intrepid regressions are fixed now, but I have not looks at the LTS in a while. However, I have been very pleasently surprised with 9.04. I also still have a lot of Gutsy systems in production. There is no reason to move if it works... > 3. Many times it fails to suspend: I get no clear indication what interrupted the suspension, and I have to wait every time to see if it manages to suspend and if not, shut down (loose my state of work), and reboot later. In Windows I can unplug the power line, put in my backpack and not worry. I have seen several laptops that can not suspend properly under Windows. This is really a power management bug, as the spec is not clearly defined or well followed. > 4. Basic stuff like sound (pulseaudio) and fan cooling don't work properly. Same with Windows. Buy well supported hardware and it will work. Buy poorly supported hardware and it won't. I have a Paperport scanner that won't work under XP or better, but will work in Linux. > 5. Some things that are basic in Windows are hard to do in Ubuntu. For example, how do I check my disk? In windows it is through a context menu, in Ubuntu I have to create some file under '/'. And why do I have to reboot just to check? Note that the fact that it automatically checks every 20 boots or so is not good, since I don't want to reboot. ever. You need to reboot to run chkdsk in windows as well. There are applications (like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck ) you can install to allow you to run an fask on your next boot. Some will also then shutdown and reboot then shutdown again, so it seems like you run fsck at shutdown. I have never "created a file" to run fsck. So the bug is that you could not find the answers to your problems. You can help us by saying where you looked and what you found, or what you expected to find but didn't. Believe me that a LOT of us want to fix that bug! -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 146146] Re: gproftpd crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()
As I was unable to make it work as intended, I went with a different package. I do not know if this bug exists anymore or not. -- gproftpd crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146146 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Conrad Knauer wrote: > My prediction is that companies which decide to put Windows 7 Starter > (limited to 3 concurrent applications... can we say "crippleware"? ;) > on netbooks are going to have unhappy customers and low sales, those > who continue to preload XP will continue to do well and those that > preload Ubuntu will see increasing sales. I think you are dead on with a lot of that. Moreover, I think there are two totally different markets for netbooks. One is people that want a cheap laptop with XP. The other is people that want a small, cheap, fast appliance. It seems that a lot of short sighted companies are going after the first market, but forgetting the other. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/05/15/asus_uk_eee_roadmap/ The daddy of the market abandons "small," the fast SSD drive, and Linux. The comments tell the story. Once Windows 7 comes out, and XP is officially killed, Dell may be the only one left in the market, and I think they will do very well. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 263441] Re: kompozer crashes in intrepid when opening the recent files menu
Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > Hi, > > Michal Suchanek ha scritto: >> Is there a key for these repositories published somewhere (the one apt >> would use to check the packages)? > > > sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 623C928A I added your PPA with the key above. I had the stock repo version on Intrepid. It found 2 upgrades. However, the kompozer-data upgrade crashed. I had to fix broken packages, and then everything worked fine. Lee -- kompozer crashes in intrepid when opening the recent files menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263441 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 263441] Re: kompozer crashes in intrepid when opening the recent files menu
Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > houstonbofh ha scritto: > >> Intrepid. It found 2 upgrades. However, the kompozer-data upgrade >> crashed. I had to fix broken packages, and then everything worked fine. > > What do you mean with crashed? Have you a log? Aport exited with "not an official package" and I can not remember. It was a config file about an exception list, I think. This was in the apt log... Selecting previously deselected package kompozer-data. Unpacking kompozer-data (from .../kompozer-data_1%3a0.7.10+dfsg+svn117-2~1.gbp4940a7~intrepid1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kompozer-data_1%3a0.7.10+dfsg+svn117-2~1.gbp4940a7~intrepid1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kompozer/res/EditorOverride.css', which is also in package kompozer dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) -- kompozer crashes in intrepid when opening the recent files menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263441 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 284901] Re: last upload of nm breaks vpn connections
Me Too... New install and same problem. No settings changes help. It never even touches the remote VPN, and nothing is in the remote logs. Reproducable if you want me to try anything. -- last upload of nm breaks vpn connections https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN
Tuomo Lesonen wrote: > After updating from Hardy to Intrepid, I was no longer able to connect > to a Windows 2000 server using PPTP (worked out-of-box with 8.04). After > installing the latest packages (mentioned above), still had no luck. But > then I checked "Use Point-to-Point encryption (MPPE)" under "Advanced" > button, and I was able to connect. Thank you! I tried that before with no luck, but with the current repo versions, a m0n0wall VPN now works again. WooHoo! -- Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/259168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN
John Brown Jr. wrote: > Today I installed the latest NetworkManager from "deb > http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu intrepid main". I can > now finally connect to my VPN network! However, if I try to save the > password in the keyring, I still get a VPN error about 'shared secrets'. > And I am also having some DNS issues while connected to my VPN, although > these might as well be unrelated to NetworkManager. Just post this to the keyring bug as well so they know it still is not fixed... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284212 Too bad we couldn't fix this last week. -- Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/259168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN
BUGabundo wrote: > Fully updated at this time, NM from PPA, no passwords on keyring, new > VPN configurarion, and I fail to connect to all my 3 test case servers Have you tried checking "Use Point-to-Point encryption (MPPE)" under the "Advanced" button? It fixed an issue for me. Seems that it used to be default. -- Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/259168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime
Endolith wrote: >> So I have a bit of an issue with using "on battery" to mean "likely to > be dropped while being used" > > Yes, this is a silly assumption. My laptop is plugged in 99% of the > time I am using it, but it is just as likely to be dropped as any other > time. Even if it's parking often, what are the chances that it will be > parked at the moment it is dropped anyway? This should be user-definable. I have never "droped" a laptop and lost a drive, even when walking down a hall or up a ladder. I have, however, banged a keyboard in frustration and lost a hard drive. The computer was plugged in at the time... :) -- High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 259168] Re: Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN
Another "Me Too..." This is connecting to m0n0wall VPN's. They have worked from Dapper on with default settings, and are very stable. With Intrepid, no joy. (This is after deleting the password from the keyring) Enclosed are the syslogs from a Intrepid box failing, and logs from m0n0wall with a failed Intrepid, and a successful Gutsy. ** Attachment added: "Logs.tar.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18864788/Logs.tar.gz -- Network Manager unable to connect to PPTP VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/259168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
*Patch Submission* One of the biggest advantages Microsoft has had is the installed user base. People had XP, liked XP and understood XP. It is hard to compete with that, and now that Microsoft is having to compete with XP it is having major issues. But remember that Microsoft is a marketing company first, so we should learn from them. In an article on The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/08/vista_lies_fightback/ there was a reference to an HCL for Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ It is easy to navigate and very well done. But why can't we do it better? With a Canonical sponsored site, tied into Launchpad log ins, hardware can be added by many people along with work-arounds for bad hardware. Software can also be listed with native ports, FOSS replacements or WINE compatibility. Best yet, with the FOSS community contributing, is will be more complete than Microsoft could ever do, and work to shame some hardware manufactures. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 221363] Re: Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX
Marcelo Boveto Shima wrote: > ** Description changed: > > I installed 8.04 LTS server on a system. Then installed ubuntu-desktop > using apt. Installed Nomachine's NX server and connected to it. > > The unlock buttons on Users and Groups or Network are greyed out and un- > accessible. Tried running from a term 'sudo users-admin' with the same > results. > > Works fine with VNC and NX "Shadow" session however this is not really > acceptable as it means a session has to be running on console first. I would love to change the description removing NX entirly. This also happens when using 'ssh -X' to access a system. There is not way to remotely admin a system using GUI tools without having an open console. (Which may have an unprivileged user sitting at it...) This bug is a show stopper for me, and one reason I am holding at Gutsy. -- Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221363 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 221363] Re: Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX
This problem also occurs when you use 'ssh -X' and try and run 'users- admin' for example. There is no way to admin a Hardy system via ssh using the GUI tools. -- Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221363 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 221363] Re: Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX
volksman wrote: > @Marcelo: Just realized you fixed FreeNX. Not nomachines NX. Wonder > if I should switch. I tried to change Nomachines nxnode config to use > your nx-session-launcher but it doesn't work, just crashes. > > Are you confirming this is a problem with NX though and not policy kit > or is this a band-aid until policy kit is fixed? I'm not sure anyone > has opened a bug with Nomachine yet for this issue. The point of my post was that this problem occurs when there is no NX at all, but in SSH as well. So the problem appears to be that when you are not directly at the console, policykit totally locks down. -- Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221363 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime
Gabor CZIGOLA wrote: > I can not believe that it is normal for a basic, non-enterprise disk to > overheat, not even when it is permanently used. > If disabling power management causes any other issue than decreased battery > life by max. 5%, then this is obviously some disk/firmware related bug. > > This is why I guess the blacklist approach mentioned by Jakob > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi- > support/+bug/59695/comments/515) is more straightforward. I also like the Novel blacklist approach. 1) Does not change drives that play fair. 2) Fixes known bad actors. 3) Shames bad actors, and acts as a buying guide. -- High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
shane fagan wrote: > Stop talking about microsoft's priorities. Their priorities have lead to > the release of vista which we all agree is poor. What our priorities > should be to forget about microsoft and release a stable and strong > Ubuntu and that sounds a lot better than vista which glitches every 5 > minutes. So id like to say that our focus shouldnt be on the competition > it should be on Ubuntu. It needs to be both! Microsoft actually does many things right, and we should copy that. But we should also learn from the mistakes of others, and not copy those mistakes. :) -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Nick_Hill wrote: >>From discussing on IRC and between friends, it seems uncontroversial to > suggest 8.04 has more bugs than we'd like. Far more than we'd like for > an LTS. Many of them being regressions. Not to mention beta Firefox. Understatement. Company wide, we have frozen on Gutsy other then one home test system and my Laptop. I curse at both regularly. :) Slightly less lately, so an upgrade may be soon. [lots of other good comments omitted] > I'll kick off by suggesting: > 1) When a user account is created, by default, beg users to file bugs, and > point them to the BTS > 2) The Ubuntu bug tracking system should have only Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu > or other siblings which share the same packages - there should be no way for > users to get lost in other projects on the same bug tracking system. > 3) The root of the Ubuntu bug tracking system should actually be at an easy > to remember URL such as http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ . (This URL does currently > re-direct to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs). > 4) The hardest part - make it much easier for users to identify which package > the bug is related to. I am an experienced user and find this step > challenging. Maybe a clear decision tree, with unambiguous, easy questions, > or some graphical system. I beg to differ here. Make it irrelevant. Have an "advanced" and a "beginner" setting early in apport, and the beginner steeing just makes guesses behind the scenes. Yes this is more work for the bug wranglers, but it makes it much simpler for the user. Moreover, the user sees instant action in e-mail. Let me repeat that. THE USER SEES INSTANT ACTION ON HIS BUG IN E-MAIL. Compare that to Microsoft... If the bug tracker is made easy, not only will we get better bug reports, it becomes an amazing marketing tool. So much for the "Linux has not support" FUD. > 5) When a bug is marked as a duplicate, the title of the bug should remain searchable (at least for months) as a 'common user' may identify a bug using different words to those used by the developer. 6) Either fix the policy problems that prevent known broken systems from being fixed, or figure out a way to tell a new user that leaving his app broken is better for him. Specifically the QEMU issue in Gutsy with BOCHS BIOS and version freeze is a good example. When a showstopper bug can only be fixed by a version upgrade, it stays broke for 6 months. New users are baffled by this, and if the app is critical, they will go back to Windows rather than find the fix. (A backported BOCHS BIOS in this case) I understand the reason, but I still shake my head in wonder occasionally. However this is a very good plan. The bug tracker is an amazing marketing tool, because MS has nothing like this. My mother (the classic example) files a bad dupe of a common bug. She gets an e-mail saying it is moved to an existing bug. She gets an e-mail saying it is worked on. She gets an e-mail says fix uploaded. She gets a fix for her bug. She feels a dev was dispatched to fix HER BUG. She tells the ladies in her knitting group how that nice man fixed her bug so fast. (actually she does not knit, but I love clichés...) How cool is that? -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Allen Graham wrote: > OK, Tom notes that he heard negative remarks about Linux, in general. > Problem here is simple, since it's "free" the stores and tech shops see it > as a non-starter, no money to be made, I've heard this lots. > But, many techs have asked me to help them with Linux, oops, no money for me > here ! Another myth. There is very good money to be made supporting Linux. Even Free! I tell my clients "I want to save you as much money on products as possible. The means you have more left for me!" They laugh, but also give me more money (for more services) every time. And did I mention referrals as the projects exceed exceptions, and come in under budget? Lee -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Alexandros wrote: > http://austinist.com/2008/12/10/aisd_teacher_throws_fit_over_studen.php > http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/10/austin-teacher-threa.html > http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html Big follow up to this! http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/character-assasinations-aint-us.html In other words, this issue was patched. :) Lee -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Tom wrote: > With regards to non-free technical support it must be worth reading > through the GPL and other licensing agreements to clarify that this is > not against the agreement. That is so not a problem. I can charge for my time however I want. If I deliver solutions that include software I have to disclose the source (where it comes from, Ubuntu, Mozilla), and make the source code available. But no one can say I have to work for free. I charge per hour, but offer monthly support contracts for solutions that I deliver. If it has to include Windows, I charge more for a contract as it is generally more work. I also am open with my customers about that. Lee -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
jaypmcwilliams wrote: > "How can we begin advertising LINUX on Radio, TV & stores"? Please tell > me & I would be happy to help. The problem is that advertising is expensive. I will spend the money, but only to promote my business. If I promote my business, and some of my vendors, I can get co-op money. There is no Linux co-op money. What we need is a new "open source" project that does advertising. If every geek sent in a buck, we could do major national adds. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Anders wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/26/dziuba_linux_desktop/ Old news and FUD. Summery: People want things not to change, and Linux is different, so people wont change. Problem: So is Vista. The premise is accurate, and that is why Vista was such a resounding failure for so long. But people are slowly adjusting... The other problem is that they never looked outside there own limited experience... I do hotel business center kiosks. Many of them are castrated Windows installs so you can not do anything, and so they can charge. People expect them to be wrong. With all my kiosks (Ubuntu based) I have received zero support calls. Seriously, none... And the hotels love them, and keep asking for more. One was for the employees. That did generate a call... It seems that one (and only one) of the "DVDs" used for training is actually a program... Funny that. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Tom wrote: > People often say they will stick with Windows because they "just want > something that works out of the box". Clearly these people are > completely clueless and not at all techie. A witty quip like Amir's is > more likely to work than pedantic 'brow-beating'. Funny that you should mention that. I provide managed Ubuntu desktops (We refer to them as kiosks) to hotels for the business center. (They just work) In one hotel, the manager ordered one for the back office people to look up food, and things to do... We were talking about future stuff and I mentioned the word Linux. The manager says "Oh, I hate Linux." Really? Do you have Tivo? And you know those two desktops you like so much? Linux. "Really? But they have the Internet, and they are so easy... I thought Linux was hard..." Lee -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
kylea wrote: > SO why use MS Windows? - No reasons other than some sites sites (ATO and > St George Bank) taht force users to have a windows licence. There is a patch for this bug at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page which will work in a pinch. But I would complain as well. As a matter of fact, I do! -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 308816] Re: Please upgrade firefox 3.0 to 3.0.5
This is a major bug-fix to the broken mjpeg streaming. Please mark this as a security / bugfix, not a feature improvement. -- Please upgrade firefox 3.0 to 3.0.5 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/308816 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304969] Re: Hardy: Flash can't be installed since install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can't be retrieved
Another major component of this bug is the poor failure status. If you install from the GUI, there is no error indicating that the package did not install. This also happened when Flash went from 8 to 9, so this part of the bug is very longstanding! -- Hardy: Flash can't be installed since install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can't be retrieved https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304969 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304969] Re: Hardy: Flash can't be installed since install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can't be retrieved
Robert Schlanstein wrote: > "If you install from the GUI, there is no error indicating that the > package did not install." > > The error ist not pointed out by the pop-up window, but the error itself > remains. You can click on "details" to read the same output as the > terminal would give. And why would you click on "details" when nothing went wrong as far as you could tell? More importantly, why would my mother click on "details" and what would it tell her? Yes, the script outputs an error, but the package does not. @Daniel Gutsy is still supported. (as is Dapper) The .deb from adobe is Hardy or better. Gutsy is still broken. (as is Dapper) -- Hardy: Flash can't be installed since install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can't be retrieved https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304969 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
kylea wrote: > To answer Vadim - sorry this is not spam, My comments go to heart of > matter - why is Linux, after so many new versions still so poorly > represented on the desktop? Its because IT managers and re-sellers > cannot cope with the stupid bugs that constantly require man months to > research and resolve. I tell people I am using Linux and all I get is > 'man you are brave - you must have a lot of free time'. I get lots of comments from people who know nothing of Linux. Most of the biggest fears have not been an issue for years. By your logic, a person in West Texas who has never left the state should determine my European travel plans. > Attention to my bug - your kidding - I have a work around for my version > of this issue - its all the other sorry individuals who really need > Linux, I don't need it - I can afford Windows that this comment is for, > - complete and utter frustration yes. No one needs Linux. Or Windows. They are tools. I pick the best tool for the job, and it is Linux much more often that Microsoft. > To answer João - yes and no. MS bugs are a philosophy issue - they are > evil and un-repentant, our bugs are unnecessary and turn off the very > people needed to grow the customer base. What? This is the most bizarre statement I have seen in a while! Do you think there are devs out there that Like bugs? Perhaps you should try and understand how software works so you can appreciate how hard it is to fix some bugs. In your case some drivers with some hardware does not work. Which drivers have not been identified, and the bluze tools don't feel like chasing down a problem that isn't there. The kernel devs have lots of bugs to work out, so unless you can tell them exactly where the problem is, they have other things to work on. (Like the massive stability issues in the Hardy kernel that was a real bug to fix) The person responsible for this problem is the hardware vendor that doesn't care about Linux anyway. But if you buy hardware only from companies committed to Linux, THEY will fix your problem. > Tell me why Ubuntu is heading toward another major release when the > latest and greatest still has some serious issues? Progress. And you have to go to a new version to version rev the things you are having problems with. Of course, Microsoft never goes to a new version with open bugs... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/12/ms_patch_tuesday_november/ > Don't get it. We get that. > Self criticism and the ability to accept it is vital to our future. But stomping your feet, yelling, and threatening to hold your breath until we fix it now dammit!; is not. I looked at your bug. You give some good information to help with Triage, and then just pout. If you could tail some logs while doing this and find what program is actually failing and how, it would go to Triaged status faster. That or jump into the next beta, and work on this bug with a smaller and more responsive group. Also you (and that "you" means everyone reading this and nodding) might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day to really move this. Or not. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 307488] [NEW] Package fails to download binary without warning
Public bug reported: Installation on Gutsy of flashplugin- nonfree_9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb results in a failure that never shows up to the user. You simply have no flash, and do not know why. Installing from the cli gives some information... Specifically that the binary is not there anymore. But from the GUI you get nothing. It needs an update, and better error handling. Workaround is to manually download and install from adobe. ~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Suggested packages: konqueror-nsplugins ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs The following NEW packages will be installed: flashplugin-nonfree 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/18.2kB of archives. After unpacking 160kB of additional disk space will be used. Preconfiguring packages ... Selecting previously deselected package flashplugin-nonfree. (Reading database ... 111545 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking flashplugin-nonfree (from .../flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb) ... Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1) ... Downloading... --10:57:06-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz => `./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz' Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com... 96.17.194.70 Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|96.17.194.70|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 10:57:07 ERROR 404: Not Found. download failed The Flash plugin is NOT installed. ** Affects: flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Package fails to download binary without warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/307488 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 307488] Re: Package fails to download binary without warning
Jon Bernard wrote: > This is likely a duplicate of #304969 > Man... And I looked too! But I am also bugging the poor fail state. This bug was also in Dapper when 9 came out. With the poor notification, unskilled users are really left in the cold. -- Package fails to download binary without warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/307488 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Tom wrote: > People still see Ubuntu as something that's very difficult to get > working. This is the problem. It is false, but a real problem. > Why not just let them stick with Windows which "just works" It doesn't. > and also with Windows isn't everything "plug & play" It isn't. > whereas in linux > its only for old equipment and you have to spend ages getting it to > work? This is uncommon. However, if you spend all your time in the "problem" forums, that is what you see. But I have a challenge for you. Find me one system that you can install windows on with only a windows CD (No driver cd from the manufacturer) and that is easier than Ubuntu. I have found the reverse to be the case every time. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Conrad Knauer wrote: > There is no mystery (no "somehow") as to why NVIDIA drivers are > "rejected by the community"; they are closed-source. If you want to > argue that performance-ends justifies the licensing-means, then we > might as well all switch to Macs This is like saying if you don't like the radio in your car, buy a different one. My system is open. My framework is open. I can hit all my hardware directly. And while I can not see inside the driver, I can also not see inside the BIOS, and the other chips on the video card and... There is a lot of "software" in every system that we can see totally. So you have to draw a line somewhere. I draw mine in a slightly different place than you. But do not think that you are not also choosing to accept some closed source code. > ... Also, NVIDIA could choose to > open source their drivers if they wanted (note that ATI also refused > to do that, but then they got bought by AMD and the story began to > change). Really the question you should be asking is 'Why are there > companies who show good support for [Linux] drivers but somehow reject > the community's principles?' Because the driver includes licensed software that they can not give away. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 284212] Re: VPN connection fails: "unable to find valid VPN secrets" (auth dialog crash when secrets exist)
Alexander Sack wrote: > jaunty is out long enough, we won't put effort into fixing bugs in > intrepid anymore - and hence risking regressions for those that are > happy. > > ** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Intrepid) >Status: Triaged => Won't Fix This is one thing I never understood. The policy of leaving things broken when there are known fixes is never something I can agree with in a still "supported" release. If the fix is causing regressions, it is also causing them in Jaunty and Karmic. If the fix requires a version rev, and that is against policy, we need to have a method of exception for that policy. But just leaving it broken really bothers me. -- VPN connection fails: "unable to find valid VPN secrets" (auth dialog crash when secrets exist) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284212 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304969] Re: Hardy: Flash can't be installed since install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can't be retrieved
Vikas Mohan wrote: > Hello erik, >You are right.But it is very simple thing for the ubuntu > team.All they have to put the latest flash file in their repo and they are > not doing despite the bug reports,so i thought my article will help if other > users doesn't know how to workaround.That's all We can not put the file in any repo. Part of the license is "no redistribution" which is why the package downloads it. Yes, it is silly. Worse yet is that I pointed out this would be a problem again early in the bug, but it was still fixed in a way where it fails wrong. Sigh... A deb from Jaunty should work as well, and no I do not think this is acceptable. -- Hardy: Flash can't be installed since install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz can't be retrieved https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304969 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147943] Re: [MASTER] broken initial stacking (was: compiz hides quick loading windows at login)
Saw the status change, so I hit the latest updates 9both compiz and nvidia-glx-new) and rebooted. No fix as yet. -- [MASTER] broken initial stacking (was: compiz hides quick loading windows at login) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147943 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147943] Re: [MASTER] broken initial stacking (was: compiz hides quick loading windows at login)
Fix confirmed for me. nvidia 7950 with P35 chipset and core2duo. The last major bug for me is now fixed. $ apt-cache policy compiz compiz: Installed: 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status -- [MASTER] broken initial stacking (was: compiz hides quick loading windows at login) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147943 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 144326] Re: MASTER firefox crashed on print preview [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just submitted a dupe. It was a clean install of Gutsy from the 9.24 daily. Default theme, and compiz on an nvidia 7950 card with restricted driver. It is a new machine. Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L with a 2.33 Core2duo and 2 gig of ram. All SATA system. -- MASTER firefox crashed on print preview [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144326 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92352] Re: [apport] cyclone crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()
Me too... Fresh install from 9/24 daily builds. nVidia graphics. Random screen saver. -- [apport] cyclone crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92352 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 146409] Re: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360 ** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549551/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549552/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549553/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549554/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549555/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: "Registers.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549556/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: "ThreadStacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9549557/ThreadStacktrace.txt -- compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146409 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 146409] compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360 Public bug reported: Binary package hint: compiz May be a dupe. New install of Gutsy from the 9/24 daily build, and patched to current with "essential" packages. Added new user, and logged in. Desktop is over sized and scrolling and compiz is dead. No errors in existing user. This is a first login of a new user. ProblemType: Crash Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Sep 28 10:16:32 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/compiz.real NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: compiz-core 1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace --loose-binding --sm-client-id default0 ccp ProcCwd: /home/sysop ProcEnviron: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 11 SourcePackage: compiz Stacktrace: #0 0x08054b7d in ?? () #1 0x0807b908 in ?? () #2 0x0003 in ?? () #3 0x00e7 in ?? () #4 0x in ?? () StacktraceTop: ?? () ?? () ?? () ?? () ?? () Title: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV Uname: Linux boat 2.6.22-12-generic #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 18:11:30 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip fax floppy fuse plugdev scanner tape ** Affects: compiz (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium Status: New ** Tags: apport-crash -- compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146409 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 145360] Re: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
Just to clarify an unclear issue... I installed Gutsy fresh from the 9/24 daily build. Updated to current, added the nvidia driver, and all the codecs and other "essential" stuff. All is working fine. Create new user, and log in. The desktop is oversized (1600x1400 on a 1280x1024 screen) and compiz crashed. So it is a issues on a clean install, not an upgrade issue. My files are in the dupe bug [Bug 146409] -- compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
wyo wrote: > It's now almost 2 year since I've written something about this bug here > (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/62) and it's now about 1 > year since I've lost fait that this bug will be solved before I die. Yet > it's time to make a review if anything has changed regarding this bug. > > To draw a resume: Ubuntu has nothing achived in this last year. I guess you see what you want to see... I am sure my perception is slightly biased as well, but I still have some points to counter. 1) Have you tried printing lately? With Gutsy, cups made a huge gain. Now most HP and Xerox printers are auto-detected, even on the LAN, and installed with no "searching." See me do thins with my laptop has prompted a few "Wins" at client sites with me saying nothing. 2) If your screen is ugly, you have a problem. My screen looks better than most Windows screens, and fonts render correctly in everything. No, nothing has been compiled. This is all with packages in repositories. 3) This year I have been able to engage business to a level I never have before, in considering Linux desktops for non-technical users. I have several Proof of Concepts out that should convert into roll-outs. And I have been selling Ubuntu "Guest PCs" quite well for some time now. 4) Drivers have changed quite a bit as well. Along with the CUPS stuff above, nVidia drivers are auto-detected, and installed by clicking a bubble that pops up. Several NICs work this way too. Trying to view a file without a codec prompts you on what codec to install and how. Now this has not yet translated to a 50% market share, but it has made the platform much more viable for people that don't care about computers. And showing how easy my life is without Windows is the best advertising. Do you know how impressive it is to print out my invoice at the client site on their printer without looking for a disk or asking for an IP address? (Or if you do, it is "Which one of your 6 HP 4220s is that one? .22?") To someone that has only run Windows, this looks like magic! -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime
Brian Visel wrote: > Good info! > > It shouldn't be too difficult to include a script that monitors the > system for the bug, to be run by cron, then notifies the user, providing > an option to automatically disable power management on the disk if so. > I could do that. Is there a way I could get it published, if I did make > such a script? If you can put your fix in a deb, you can host it in a personal package archive on an ubuntu site. https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart After some peer review, it could be picked up by the main distribution, or at least used by many people. It could also be contributed to by others. It would be a small project, but a popular one. The ntfs r/w automount and autofsck started out in ways similar to this. -- High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 81798] Re: [apport] democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()
Sarah has the right idea. Do this a while, and you get a thick skin. :) That said, I do not feel it should be in a release repo. Unless a breakthrough comes in the next few days, it should be pulled on the 19th. I want it to work, and I want it in the repositories, but as it stands, this is not release quality software at this time. -- [apport] democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81798 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime
Brian Visel wrote: > This bug has been around for over two years. It has been reported for > over one year. > > It's incredibly demotivating. I'm just disappointed with Ubuntu's > organization at this point. This kind of thing amazes me. This bug is present to some extent in all operating systems. There are several Linux fixes out, and all of them have issues... There is no Vista fix I am aware of. There is not even discussion of this in MAC forums, but it could be because Apple has not speced any of the problem drives yet. However, this is all Ubuntu's fault... There is an old quote attributed to Ronald Reagan, Harry S. Truman, and even Machiavelli... "It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit." The converse of that is that you get nothing done if you waste all your time assigning blame. Lee -- High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 187148] Re: jockey-gtk crashed with AssertionError in __init__()
I am seeing this bug on a Dell with nVidia go5200 graphics. It happens with the Live CD on startup before any user input. -- jockey-gtk crashed with AssertionError in __init__() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/187148 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 76501] Re: fails to start
This bug was marked "expired" today. However, since the last activity I have helped several people involved in the zoneminder project using ubuntu with this bug. It is still unpatched, and still a problem. The wrapper script is a viable patch, so why not use it before letting the bug die on the vine? -- fails to start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/76501 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 17216] Re: Hard drive spindown should be configurable
I love the plan of addressing this from the other side. Specifically try and stop the spin up, not just the spin down. Ubuntu has been getting more and more power hungry, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=878&num=1 and this is one big way to address it. If you could park and sleep a drive more more than 10 minutes, it would save a lot of power, and abuse of the hardware. -- Hard drive spindown should be configurable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17216 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1] zdnet recognizes Ubuntu Bug 1
http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/features/0,102000,39291080,00.htm While I doubt they have heard of it, or even realize how similar it is, the fact remains that the #1 thing out of "Ten things holding back tech" is our Bug #1. As a matter of fact, Open Source answers almost all of those issues. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Ubuntu QA Tracker wrote: > ** Tags added: iso-testing > Stéphane Graber wrote: > ** Tags removed: iso-testing > Darn! I REALLY wanted to see that iso! -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Providing a "free" OS if different from delivering a free OS. Yes, Dell is adding there "value add" to Ubuntu. Have you looked at a Dell Windows PC lately? If you want a clean Windows install on a Dell, you reinstall Windows. An entire project (The Dell Decrapiffier) was created just to address this. It is not a surprise that they also want to put a stamp on the Ubuntu desktop, and if we try and stop that, we are stepping on Dell's freedom. And having them ship a commercial project shows the viability of the Linux market, and this is not a bad thing. While Dell mucking about with the desktop (any desktop) is a ugly thing, it is a sign of a very good thing; the adoption of Linux by the infrastructure that made the wintel standard so powerful. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Conrad, I think you miss-remember Bug #1. "Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix." For every Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Linspire or Apple Mac that is sold, we get a little fix to that bug. And more non-microsoft means less MS-only apps and websites. Also, the more Ubuntu has mind share, the more likely people will be to code and product test to the base Ubuntu. (The one we like, not the Dell version. No one codes to Dell Windows either) Now the reason DVD playback is a good thing is my sister. If it does not have it, she won't use the system. And no, she won't (She believes that she can't, but that is a different bug) add it her self. Vendors like Dell make there money selling to people like my sister, and that is why Dell includes DVD, Flash, Support, and other things that you or I don't need. The alternative is to leave them to Microsoft, and now we are back to Bug #1. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 182551] Re: Cups Server error. There was an error during Cups operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'.
Me too! It only seems to show up in my primary user. No other effect noted. -- Cups Server error. There was an error during Cups operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182551 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 182551] Re: Cups Server error. There was an error during Cups operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'.
More information... It only happens when I log in immediately. If I boot and go away, and log in some time after the boot process completes, it never happens. This is repeatable. Sounds like a init order issue. -- Cups Server error. There was an error during Cups operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182551 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
mihai007 wrote: > So after all this time... how does every Ubuntu release stands? > Just made a google trends and here are the results: > http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu+breezy+%7C%7C+ubuntu+5.10%2C+ubuntu+dapper+%7C%7C+ubuntu+6.06%2C+ubuntu+edgy+%7C%7C+ubuntu+6.10%2C+ubuntu+feisty+%7C%7C+ubuntu+7.04%2C+ubuntu+gutsy+%7C%7C+ubuntu+7.10&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 I find this one more interesting... http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+Windows+98%2C+windows+2000%2C+Windows+vista&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 > I think we're on the good way. We may be doing better than anyone knows... The Vista graph and the Win2k graph surprised me. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 123185] Re: qemu completely broken with current version of bochbios
David Benjamin wrote: > So, are there any plans to backport this to Gutsy? It seems strange that > a fix has been in Hardy and for quite some time now, and yet Gutsy still > doesn't have it. > > I can hardly imagine that "stable users" want the old package, seeing as > it doesn't work. Well, a broken package is very stable... :) Yes, in this case, the system is what is broken. -- qemu completely broken with current version of bochbios https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime
Dan Gilliam wrote: > It's not all Ubuntu, of course. All the other distros are showing the > same as I've hopped around a bit. I tried applying the various fixes > that I've found, but I'm not seeing any difference in the increased load > counts. Which is frustrating, because windows is obviously doing > SOMETHING to control it. Question is, what, and how, to impliment this. I have a laptop with this problem, but I didn't notice... Why? Bit torrent and seeding distributions is an excellent patch! :) If you never leave the hard drive alone, it never parks. If you FINALLY finish loading the OS, and never wake up the hard drive, it never unparks. I think the Ubuntu problem is because we finish loading, so it can park, but wake every few seconds for random reasons and unpark. Vista, on the other hand, will be an hour finishing booting... -- High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
This is a verry good example of Bug1 which is perception, not reality. So, I am including this "perception patch" that should be tactfully applied whenever you find this bug in a running system rhinoFinn wrote: > I'm not so sure whether this bug is due or only due to Microsoft, bcause > I (once again) tried to start use Linux ... tried to install latest > OpenSUSE, Mandriva on my laptop ... installation failed ... then tried > Ubuntu (actually latest beta 8.04) and wow, it succeedet to install. > Only problem was with wlan - turn out that Ubuntu can't connect if wlan- > server hides its name (SSID). When I managed wlan-station and set that > it broadcasts its SSID-name, managed Ubuntu to establish wlan- > connection. Computers are hard. Installing stuff is hard. Wireless is junk. This is why we get the big bucks. > I have installed over a year ago Windows Vista Ultimate on this same > laptop and it installed with no problem and has worked like a charm ... Right now I am having to reinstall Windows XP to a customer system. It has a nVidia graphics card, and a gigabyte GA-8I945PM-RH motherboard. This is a OEM motherboard, and there is NO WAY TO FIND THE DRIVERS FOR IT! How did I do it? I installed Ubuntu (which worked perfect out of the box) looked at the drivers and found the Windows versions. Driver problems are not the fault of the OS. In some cases Windows will win, and in some cases Ubuntu will win. In all cases it is the hardware manufactures responsibility to provide drivers. Sometimes they fail... And not just for Linux. > I have tried some times earlier years to use linux too, but after a > while with problems and frustration of googlind and searchin guides and > reading too much just unnecessary talkietalkie there, returned back to > windows that works and guides are good and fully informative - they just > tell all the things that one need to know to do things. There are good and bad guids on both sides. You just happen to know where the good guides are for Windows. If you had been in Linux a while you would know where to look there as well. > And installation > of additional hardware is so simple in windows with graphical driver- > installation programs (much easier compared so often needed > kernelcompaling, editing and timewaste of googling information among > talkietalkie linux-boards). In 25 years of computer work from DOS to several flavors of Unix to Linux, I nave NEVER compiled a kernal. I still don't know where this myth comes from, but you don't need to compile kernals to use Linux. It just ain't so. And as to the "editing and timewaste of googling information among talkietalkie linux-boards" Have you ever seen technet or edited the registry? > So now I have 3G mobiledatamodem Option iCON 225 and have installed and use > it easily in Windows Vista. > Now I have found some information how to install it on Ubuntu too. But guides > and information lack so much or are not suitable for Ubuntu 8.04 so that I > haven't managed yet to installa it and get it working ... so I think there's > some kinga chronical bad disease in Linux open source world: it is not > capable of handling those numerous different distros of Linux and can't make > adequate guidance how to do things, installa new hardware ... now it seems > that there is driver (hso) and utility program (rezero) but NOT ANY decent > guide how to installa them on Ubuntu 8.04 I can't make any sense of this at all... It could be part of the problem. If you can not clearly articulate your problem, no one can ever solve it. > So maybe computer hardware sellers are now WISE and AWARE this > information not so open source -problem in Linux-world and that's why > they keep rid of it :D Every single one of my vendors also sells systems with Linux. All of them... I am also regularly selling Linux systems to users. Generally the only place I see the problem you describe is from moderately experienced people who think that they know COMPUTERS, when actually the know WINDOWS. As a beginner in Linux you expect to have a similar lever of knowledge as you do in Windows. This is the problem. > So if somebody can just complain this and not to tell how > 3Gmobiledatamodem Option iCON 225 CAN BE INSTALLED ON Ubuntu 8.04, > please don't bother to comment this discovery of chronical Linux disease There is also some hardware that does not work in Vista. If you buy it and don't check first, you will be disappointed. That is the case here. Personally, I never try to make bad hardware work. I simply only buy supported hardware. This includes systems that are planned to be used in Windows. That way, whatever I pull off the shelf just works, regardless of the system I put it in. This removes vast amounts of stress from my life. > Why isn't there good website/wiki or something else that could inform > how to install additional hardware on linux in the variety of distros > and the
Re: [Bug 207962] Re: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360 Trey Earl wrote: > *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 *** > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360 > > Will someone please remove me from this damn bug? I get about 10 e-mails > about it every fucking day... I DON'T CARE! > > I'd prefer it if you just remove my account on here altogether... > thanks. > Click on the link right above your text. Log in. Click unsubscribe. Next, click on your handle in the top right. Click on List of subscribed bugs. Go through and remove yourself from them. Lastly, quit bitching, do your own work, and consider a more mature vocabulary. -- compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/207962 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
wyo wrote: >> A quick look in the bug database suggests there are 155,000 bugs ever >> reported against Ubuntu, and 46,000 marked fixed. That's from a team of >> 30 full time engineers and about 100 committed volunteers, an amazing >> effort by people who care about Ubuntu. > > I do not question the work and effort done by Ubuntu engineers and > volunteers nor do I question anything done by Debian or any other > OpenSource project. It's a tremendous achievement worth any respect. Yet > I do questions the result of this effort. It seems regardless how much > effort ever is spent it has no effect at all on Microsoft's market > share. It seems that everything I posted back on February 20th in response to your last post still applies... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/580 You still see only what you want to see, and nothing else. Why? Since I was wondering, I followed your links until I came to your "Cross Platform" site. So it seems you have an agenda... (Stalled for over a year http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=wyoguide-users) An agenda that others seem to find unworkable, so you continue to beat them over the head. I think you have it backwards. Ubuntu and Open Source have made amazing strides in the past 2 years, and your project has not moved. You might want to revisit your own ideas before casting stones at others... I actually think your concept is sound, but you do it a disservice by presenting it like this. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 76501] Re: fails to start
One more on Feisty with nvidia 7xxx graphics. Easy workaround (-nodga) that is not trivial to find. I am surprised that this bug has been around so long with no change. -- fails to start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/76501 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 88170] Re: {feisty} [apport] apt-check crashed on startup
** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt"
http://librarian.launchpad.net/6542721/Dependencies.txt
** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt"
http://librarian.launchpad.net/6542722/ProcMaps.txt
** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt"
http://librarian.launchpad.net/6542723/ProcStatus.txt
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[Bug 88170] {feisty} [apport] apt-check crashed on startup
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: update-notifier
After todays update, updat notiffier crashes every time I log in or
finish with synaptic.
ProblemType: Crash
Architecture: i386
Date: Mon Feb 26 16:42:25 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04
ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.5
Package: update-notifier 0.56
ProcCmdline: python /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
ProcCwd: /home/lee
ProcEnviron:
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
PythonArgs: ['/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check']
SourcePackage: update-notifier
Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check", line 6, in
import apt_pkg
ImportError: No module named apt_pkg
Uname: Linux big-laptop 2.6.20-8-generic #2 SMP Tue Feb 13 05:18:42 UTC 2007
i686 GNU/Linux
** Affects: update-notifier (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: Unconfirmed
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[Bug 88134] Re: Package is empty except for documentation
I would not call this low urgency. Everyone will be getting this, and breaking the only way most know to fix it. A quick look at the dupes for 88104 will show how bad this is already. (and yes, one is mine... Doh!) Keep in mind that no one with this bug will see the update notifier announcing the fix. -- Package is empty except for documentation https://launchpad.net/bugs/88134 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 88134] Re: Package is empty except for documentation
I didn't mean to sound rude. :) Just sharing the implications as my inbox filled with 88104 dupes. I am posting the progress in 88104 as well. -- Package is empty except for documentation https://launchpad.net/bugs/88134 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 88104] Re: [apport] apt-check crashed with ImportError in ()
Fix is now distributed to the US servers. Update python-apt, and all is well. But you may want to skip the kernel upgrade for now... -- [apport] apt-check crashed with ImportError in () https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 88104] Re: [apport] apt-check crashed with ImportError in ()
I also marked all upgrades. It broke Nvidia. I also lost the control panel. However, these are different bugs. This bug is fixed by updating python-apt only. Anything else is a new issue. As someone said to me, "You should expect problems on the bleeding edge." -- [apport] apt-check crashed with ImportError in () https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 88134] Re: Package is empty except for documentation
Just to confirm, the i386 fix is out to the US servers, and it works. Good job, and thanks. -- Package is empty except for documentation https://launchpad.net/bugs/88134 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 88104] Re: [apport] apt-check crashed with ImportError in ()
A fix has been punched out for bug 88134. It may take a while to trickle down, but synaptic will be able to find it with a reload and a "mark all upgrades." And end to the bug report dupes is near! -- [apport] apt-check crashed with ImportError in () https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 93604] Re: gparted is missing in iso image for feisty
I too use the Live CD often to fix systems. For one, it has a good Ubuntu Xorg.conf to compare with. :) I would also like gparted on the live cd. -- gparted is missing in iso image for feisty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/93604 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 81798] Re: [apport] democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()
Another "Me too" post. Feisty from Heard4 patched to current. If
launched from a shell...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ democracyplayer
/usr/bin/democracyplayer:81: DeprecationWarning: The dbus_bindings module is
deprecated and will go away soon.
dbus-python 0.80 provides only a partial emulation of the old
dbus_bindings, which was never meant to be public API.
Most uses of dbus_bindings are applications catching the exception
dbus.dbus_bindings.DBusException. You should use dbus.DBusException
instead (this is compatible with all dbus-python versions since 0.40.2).
If you need additional public API, please contact the maintainers via
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
import dbus_bindings
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus_bindings.py:5: DeprecationWarning: The
dbus_bindings module is deprecated and will go away soon.
dbus-python 0.80 provides only a partial emulation of the old
dbus_bindings, which was never meant to be public API.
Most uses of dbus_bindings are applications catching the exception
dbus.dbus_bindings.DBusException. You should use dbus.DBusException
instead (this is compatible with all dbus-python versions since 0.40.2).
If you need additional public API, please contact the maintainers via
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
from dbus.dbus_bindings import *
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/democracyplayer", line 89, in
onetime.OneTime()
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/democracy/onetime.py", line 105, in
__init__
bus_name = BusNameFlags('org.participatoryculture.dtv.onetime', bus=bus,
flags=dbus.dbus_bindings.NAME_FLAG_DO_NOT_QUEUE)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/democracy/onetime.py", line 53, in
__new__
retval = dbus.dbus_bindings.bus_request_name(bus.get_connection(), name,
flags=flags)
TypeError: request_name() takes no keyword arguments
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[Bug 94048] Re: [feisty] Slow gnome application startup due to /etc/hosts misconfiguration
I too have noticed a significant difference in both Feisty and Edgy. Boot times seem slightly quicker as well, but that my be wishful thinking. :) The only difference in mine is I added FQDN. (And the intellitext filter) 127.0.0.1 localhost boat.dnsalias.net boat nasioc.us.intellitxt.com toms.us.intellitxt.com 127.0.1.1 boat.dnsalias.net boat # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts -- [feisty] Slow gnome application startup due to /etc/hosts misconfiguration https://launchpad.net/bugs/94048 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 94048] Re: [feisty] Slow gnome application startup due to /etc/hosts misconfiguration
I am willing to debug, but I am not sure what you need. No actual error occurs. I believe it is more an application timeout issue. With a stock feisty hosts file, some applications take a little longer to start than if you changed the hosts file as described. I timed it with Firefox, and it was a significant change. (About %60 reduction in startup time) It had not occurred to me that there was a problem before this "fix." I also noted similar behavior on Edgy. I have not tested this on Dapper, which has a different default hosts file. (It has the short name in both places) Dapper hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost server 127.0.1.1 server.dnsalias.net server # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts -- [feisty] Slow gnome application startup due to /etc/hosts misconfiguration https://launchpad.net/bugs/94048 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86524] Kismet crashes g-term
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gnome-terminal gnome-terminal 2.17.91-Oubuntu1 kismet 2006.04.R1-1.1 Hardware SMC2532W-B highpower 802.11b Prism WiFi card. Running kismet for the first time, and gterm crashes hard. Was repeatable after removing and reinstalling pcmcia orinoco wireless card. Only other app running was Thunderbird. No reboot performed. Exact steps 'sudo kismet' Press to continue. Press 'm' to mute alarms. Crash occurs seconds later. Same hardware and config works on Dapper, and Edgy. ProblemType: Crash Date: Tue Feb 20 10:58:33 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal Package: gnome-terminal 2.17.91-0ubuntu1 ProcCmdline: gnome-terminal ProcCwd: /home/lee ProcEnviron: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 11 SourcePackage: gnome-terminal StacktraceTop: ?? () from /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 ?? () ?? () ?? () XRenderFillRectangle () from /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 Uname: Linux big-laptop 2.6.20-8-generic #2 SMP Tue Feb 13 05:18:42 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev powerdev scanner video ** Affects: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: Unconfirmed -- Kismet crashes g-term https://launchpad.net/bugs/86524 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86524] Re: Kismet crashes g-term
** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482921/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482922/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482923/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482924/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482925/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: "Registers.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482926/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: "Stacktrace.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482927/Stacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: "ThreadStacktrace.txt" http://librarian.launchpad.net/6482928/ThreadStacktrace.txt -- Kismet crashes g-term https://launchpad.net/bugs/86524 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86202] Re: Ubiquity gives no help when already have four primary partitions defined
As a frequent visitor/contributor to Ubuntu Forums, I can see this generating a lot of new user posts. An example of how this could happen. User has XP, and shrinks partition. User reads that a fat 32 partition should be used to share files. User reads that a /boot partition should be first so the system can boot large drives. User creates /, and hits 4. Now user attempts to create swap, and fails. User posts to Ubuntu Forums about how everyone is a jerk. :) -- Ubiquity gives no help when already have four primary partitions defined https://launchpad.net/bugs/86202 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Martin Wildam wrote: > I think, you are right and completely agree with you. I also find it > annoying that for instance my Ubuntu 9.10 does not get Open Office > upgrade to 3.2 during normal upgrades. Do you all realize that the "patch" to this bug is to open a ppa for firefox or open office on the LTS, right? It is a bit of work, but that is how things get done in open source. Essentially all it would be is testing the backports, and making sure they work, then copying them over. Lee -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
This is not a support forum, but... Martin Wildam wrote: > What?!? - Really? - Is there a list of ppas that can be added this > way? Doesn't that conflict then with security updates from Canonical? You have to look. A quick google http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+firefox+ppa showed 2 good pages. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion and https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa > Adding a repository is quite no work in relation to searching for the > right downloads on the Windows platform continuously again and again. I was actually talking about making one if there is not one out there. My point was that Ubuntu and linux are structured to allow YOU (and any other "you") to fix any problems. You just have to have the will and acquire the skill. This is a serious advantage over "The Market Leader" which is what bug 1 is all about. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
Once again we have a problem communicating with the customer. We still have all these old myths that are no longer true. Bob! wrote: > can i just say that windows has majority market share for a reason. imho > ubuntu isnt nearly as good in a number of areas the concern the average > user. But the main reason is a lack of knowledge. > for a start it isnt even possible to listen to mp3's or watch > movies in default ubuntu. Not true. It is not possible to download a CD with the codecs for free because of licensing. But if you buy a system with Ubuntu on it, it generally has the codecs pre-intalled. Also, the Windows codec installer is a little more seamless in how it downloads codecs without you knowing. > windows is popular because well 1 as it is > already popular people just goto it and its in computer stores as > default etc but 2. because anything u can do on any other operating > system u can do on windows... play games, what have you. afaik no other > OS can really make that claim. Not true. There are more than a few programs that only work on Linux, or work with severly reduced functionality on Windows. Also, there are MANY programs that will only work on one version of Windows, so there is no version of anything that will "run it all." > from my experiances with linux / windows > i would personally say it works better " out of the box" aswell, which > the average user (and me) like. Which box? Are you comparing a pre-installed Windows box with a self install of Ubuntu? That is comparing apples to jet aircraft. I have delivered several Ubuntu systems, and the customers love them and want more. While they are not for all purposes, they are amazing at some. > i installed vista on my mothers computer > and it didnt even need video drivers to run aero get hardware > acceleration or play most simpler 3d games, the audio was nice and came > with an equalizer etc by default. Uh... No. It needed drivers. They were either already on the CD, or downloaded on the fly. And the same thing happens with Ubuntu, with the right hardware. And with the wrong hardware, both Ubuntu and Windows will have issues. > linux on the other hand has outdated, > imo poorly supported device drivers, i had problems with jacksense and i > couldnt even find a basic equalizer or what have you. There was a good nVidia article on phoronix talking about how most of the nVidia driver is shared code across all systems. The main library is actually the same file. I can not answer the audio mixing questions as I have never used it. > imo linux will > start earning more market share when it can compete on the same grounds > as windows, and do more than what windows can do - preferably better. > until then im afraid i have to keep using windows as my primary os, > linux seems alright but it doesnt do everything i want it to - let alone > easily. This is the most telling part of your comment. Linux already can compete on the same grounds as Windows, and can do things far better than Windows. However, configuration is not trivial (Neither is Windows, but the mostly come pre-configured) and perception is way behind. Also, the staggering amount of choice is overwhelming. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 515678] Re: [needs-packaging] sun-java6 for lucid
Let me add a "Me Too." I understand the need to push people to the open version, but there are too many apps that it just doesn't work for. Until it is ready for prime time, there needs to be an easy fallback. -- [needs-packaging] sun-java6 for lucid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/515678 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 221363] Re: Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX / VNC / LTSP
You forgot to add "ssh -X" to the title. Yes, it is a bad decision, in my opinion. -- Policy Kit Unlock Buttons Greyed Out when using NX / VNC / LTSP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221363 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 403408] Re: Grub 2 problem, error: no such device
Jordan wrote: > Since the upstream bug report mentions that this happens on BIOSs that > can only read the first portion of large drives,... I doubt this is the case. I am having this problem on a BIOSTAR K8M800 motherboard, and I have only a single data partition on an 80 gig IDE drive. (Swap is in the extended partition) Unfortunately, the system is remote, so I can not test it now... -- Grub 2 problem, error: no such device https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403408 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 403408] Re: Grub 2 problem, error: no such device
Hanno Böck wrote: > Ubuntu-devs, can you please put a HIGH priority on this one and NOT release > any more kernel or grub updates till this is fixed? > I just got the problem on someones machine where I've worked around it > recently. The new kernel update regeerated the grub config and the problem > was back again. Since many kernel updates are security fixes, I don't see that happening any time soon. (Nor would I want it to.) However, if you do the fix in post #10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/403408/comments/10 it will survive kernel updates, just not grub updates. You can also pin grub (or kernel) updates so they are not a problem for you. -- Grub 2 problem, error: no such device https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403408 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 403408] Re: Grub 2 problem, error: no such device
This is my 4th clean install of Karmic, and I got bit. The bad part is that this one was at a client, with a time crunch. The workaround in the grub2 boot works, but I can't have a client do that. And I am afraid to use the fix in post #10, as an upgrade means a service call with "an emergency." I too vote to bump the priority, as it has been around a while. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1301144 -- Grub 2 problem, error: no such device https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403408 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 561794] Re: soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV
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Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
IDWMaster wrote: > Only problem is; they made me sign a confidentiality agreement, and if I > told anyone names; they would have far more powerful lawyers. For a confidentiality agreement to be valid (in most locations... I am not a lawyer), you have to receive something in return. If they left this out, the agreement is voidable. As someone else said, give a lawyer $100 to find out. Lee -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520466] Re: system-config-printer.py crashed with AttributeError in send_reply()
Lucid Daily patched to current 28-2-2010. Clean install from 27-2-2010. CUPS 1.4.2-9 has one printer installed. (HP Color Laser 2550) >From within Gnome; Open Printing applet. Add new printer to open "new Printer" applet. (Button or menu makes no difference) Expand "Network Printer" options. Hit Cancel to close applet. Crash is repeatable. (From my bug, 529517. Do not know how I missed the dupe...) -- system-config-printer.py crashed with AttributeError in send_reply() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520466 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share
Faldegast wrote: > Why don't do it the RHEL/CentOS way with LTS releases where user application > lake browsers etc gets updated but system stuff only get bug-fixes. > To be conservative with kernel updates is good but why be that conservative > with Firefox and OpenOffice? Im not saying we should throw the edgiest > version in to the LTS, first let it prove itself in the edgy version of > ubuntu. > So a middle way between the current LTS scheme and the current edgy version > could bridge the gap that users feel exist between them. You can do that. You can upgrade whatever you want. You can have an LTS with bleeding edge Firefox and Open Office. Just not supported by Ubuntu. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 554432] Re: kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c:1917!
Another me too... Present in kernels 2.6.32-19 2.6.32-21 and 2.6.32-22. I am running an i855 graphics chipset with the patch, but it is still present in the -19 which does not need the patch. Is there a workaround other then a 1.6.34 kernel? -- kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c:1917! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/554432 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 403408] Re: Grub 2 problem, error: no such device
I had a working system with the fix in post #10. Then after running updates today, (including a grub update that removed the fix) it failed with "Out of Disk" and the fix in post 10 did not help. Also no access to grub menu. I am trying a reinstall with a 10GB /boot partition. Perhaps the "fix" is to check for this possibility at install. Setting up a boot partition is non-trivial for the new linux user. -- Grub 2 problem, error: no such device https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403408 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
