Re: [techtalk] Slightly OT: My dopey sysadmin strikes again!
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:53:12PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Kath thought: > >We don't even md5 the passwords, since the teachers are rather forgetful and we >like to be able to look up their passwords via the console. sigh :( It's probably still better than the teachers having their passwords stuck on their monitors with postit stickers. Conor. -- Conor Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Domestic Sysadmin :-) - Faenor.cod.ie 12:40pm up 36 days, 22:15, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Hobbiton.cod.ie 11:55am up 36 days, 21:05, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Any good HTML editors for Linux?
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 08:51:16PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Julie thought: > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Julie wrote (in reverse order): > > > > > (proud vi user for 4 presidential administrations) > > > > I've only been using it for about six years. I really have to admit I > came > > to UNIX late in my career, and Linux even later. I originally *hated* vi. > > The learning curve was way steep and I found it counter-intuitive. Once I > > got used to it, though, many of the commands became second nature, and now > > vi is definitely my editor of choice, simply because I know it so well. I Especially the bit where you type ":w" to save when you *have* to use M$ Word! > > > Would you care to elaborate? I *think* what Linux-Mandrake give you is > > vim, not vi. Still, when I use it everything seems the same as on my *nix > > boxen at work. > > Vim has some, ah, "improvements" that don't sit well with me. One > of them is "progressive searching" where you start typing in your > search string and it starts searching right away. I find it both > confusing and distracting and a general nuisance. The other is that > it has a "more than one deep" undo buffer. So sometimes I go to > undo an undo and wind up undoing a something else. AFAIK, you can turn off some of the creeping featureism in the config file and still retain useful stuff like arrow keys and syntax highlighting (that's not available ion vi is it?) > > I don't "think" when I use vi -- it's all just very automatic. So I wind > up doing things completely wrong because I've been habituated to > doing it some other way that no longer works like that. yup. Conor -- Conor Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Domestic Sysadmin :-) - Faenor.cod.ie 12:30pm up 36 days, 22:05, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 11:45am up 36 days, 20:55, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] How about SGML editors? (was: Any good HTML editors for Linux?)
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:18:30AM +1000 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thought: > jennyw wrote: > > And on my new topic: > Along the same lines, anyone know of a good SGML (pref Docbook, but > any SGML editor)? For any platform? > > What I MOST need is the ability to edit stylesheets without having > to hack the nwalsh DSSSL lisp-like stuff. The ability to edit the > stylesheets in less than a day/week/month's serious hacking... :) > > I want to use some sort of context formatting for my tech writing - > which will range from the usual programmers-stuff which Docbook is > terrific for as it stands, to stuff for managers which needs to (for > instance) NOT have section numbering. > > So I want to be able to edit multiple style sets. Have the standard > Docbook style set for programmers-stuff, have a variant for user > tutorials, another for user manuals, another for business proposals... > > Advice? Help? Tea? LyX from lyx.org? did a little in docbook with it with relative ease. Did NOT attempt any hacks though (no time). Earl Grey in your local tea shop? Conor -- Conor Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Domestic Sysadmin :-) - Faenor.cod.ie 12:24pm up 36 days, 21:59, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Hobbiton.cod.ie 11:39am up 36 days, 20:49, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: Vim and regular expressions (was Re: [techtalk] Any good HTML editors for Linux?)
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:11:48AM +1000 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Mary Gardiner thought: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 12:24:13PM -0700, jennyw wrote: > > I always thought vim was just another vi with a few extras. I guess it's got > > more than a few extras ... I'm installing it now. It'll be nice to try > > something familiar ... > > > > Jen > > Some of the features include syntax highlighting, support for the arrow > keys whilst in edit mode, and straight from vi, regular expressions. > > In terms of HTML though, where you nearly always want non-greedy > matches, can someone remind me how I do this. Web searches invariably > turn up "and you can use regular expression in vim, perl and blah. You > may want non-greedy expressions, in which case, try blah in Perl!" and > -perl will turn up the same page with perl5, and so on. Somewhere in www.linux.ie there exists a vi(m) tutorial which goes into greedy/ non-greedy regexps or else there're links to one. I may have a printout somewhere that might have a URL. I'll post if I find it. -- Conor Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Domestic Sysadmin :-) - Faenor.cod.ie 12:20pm up 36 days, 21:55, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 11:35am up 36 days, 20:45, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Netscape6 and RealPlayer8
Hi, I have installed Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 on my Linux 2.2.18 system. The browser is running fine with very few buggy (annoying) behaviour. The RealPlayer8 opens only when you explicitly enter the URL. I cannot invoke RealPlayer8 from Netscape6. In the "Edit->Preferences->Application helpers", I have defined the RealPlayer8 type files. Besides, RealPlayer8 is working only for audio and not for video. The following are the "Application helpers" that I have defined. audio/x-pn-realaudio extensions: ra,rm,ram audio/X-pn-realaudio-plugin extensions: ra,rm,ram application/smil extensions: smi If anyone got Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 to work, please let me know how you configured these tools. Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/subba9/ GPG public key ID 27FC9217 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Netscape6 and RealPlayer8
To the best of my knowledge realplayers can't be started from within netscape. I have tried several times over the past 2 years, but the plugin just does not seem to exist, on the other hand realplayer itself seems to work better under linux than it does in windows. About the video, have you tried opening a local file with video or only streaming, because if your line isn't fast enough it may take a while before anything shows up on the screen. -- Uastis --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Subba Rao wrote: > > Hi, > > I have installed Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 on my Linux 2.2.18 system. > The browser is running fine with very few buggy (annoying) behaviour. > > The RealPlayer8 opens only when you explicitly enter the URL. I cannot invoke > RealPlayer8 from Netscape6. In the "Edit->Preferences->Application helpers", I > have defined the RealPlayer8 type files. Besides, RealPlayer8 is working only > for audio and not for video. The following are the "Application helpers" that > I have defined. > > audio/x-pn-realaudio extensions: ra,rm,ram > audio/X-pn-realaudio-plugin extensions: ra,rm,ram > application/smil extensions: smi > > If anyone got Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 to work, please let me know how you > configured these tools. > > Thank you in advance. > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Slightly OT: My dopey sysadmin strikes again!
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Melissa Plunkett wrote: > Yes, the sysadmin job at educational institutionsoh the interesting > situations you get that do not seem to happen at any other > institutions. Yes, they do. My spousal unit works for a small not-yet-public company which just fired the other guy who knows Linux. So, SU is told to change all the passwords by the NT "Doofas for all seasons". DFAS wants all these passwords to be easily guessable by the guys in the field, so he makes them (predictible) variations on the site number and the street address. Either they never plan to fire anyone ever again...ever or they could just as easily used passwords like "itesayinenay". DFAS is immune to arguments about it not being secure -- he's more afraid of having to track a password book than of spending any effort at all towards providing anything but token security. -- J-Mag Guthrie/"\ "Even Microsoft's product managers privately Brokersys\ / concede that this new version, with its 281-580-3358 (voice) Xwarm-and-fuzzy nickname of Windows Me, 281-586-0628 (fax) / \ is not for everyone." -- Dwight Silverman ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Netscape6 and RealPlayer8
> If anyone got Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 to work, please let me know how you > configured these tools. > With the same configs as you described, i was never able to get Netscape 6 to work with RealPlayer. Netscape 6 is based on an older, not-so-stable build of Mozilla, though, and with a newer build of Mozilla, RealPlayer works. Good luck :) ~Christian - Christian MacAuley work » http://colortheory.net play » http://jellspace.net - ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] tracking multiple admin logins?
Thanks, this looks like it might work for us. I'll try it out. -- dennis Melissa Plunkett wrote: > > Use sudo, it will create a log entry of who used sudo and what they did. > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Netscape6 and RealPlayer8
On 0, Erika Van Essche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To the best of my knowledge realplayers can't be started from within > netscape. > I have tried several times over the past 2 years, but the plugin just does > not seem to exist, on the other hand realplayer itself seems to work > better under linux than it does in windows. > > About the video, have you tried opening a local file with video or only > streaming, because if your line isn't fast enough it may take a while > before anything shows up on the screen. > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Subba Rao wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I have installed Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 on my Linux 2.2.18 system. > > The browser is running fine with very few buggy (annoying) behaviour. > > > > The RealPlayer8 opens only when you explicitly enter the URL. I cannot invoke > > RealPlayer8 from Netscape6. In the "Edit->Preferences->Application helpers", I > > have defined the RealPlayer8 type files. Besides, RealPlayer8 is working only > > for audio and not for video. The following are the "Application helpers" that > > I have defined. > > > > audio/x-pn-realaudio extensions: ra,rm,ram > > audio/X-pn-realaudio-plugin extensions: ra,rm,ram > > application/smil extensions: smi > > > > If anyone got Netscape6 and RealPlayer8 to work, please let me know how you > > configured these tools. > > Thanks for sharing your experiences. Netscape6 is a real beast when it comes to using CPU and memory resources. The version 4.7x was pretty decent performer. The version 6 doesn't reload properly and crashed about 5 times in the last 2 days. The CPU and memory monitors are going off the scale for each page update. With such performance hit, I think I will have to pass up the RealPlayer integration with Netscape6 for now. -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/subba9/ GPG public key ID 27FC9217 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] tracking multiple admin logins?
Just be careful of what sudo access you give. For example, do not give sudo access to perl or vi because they can become excellent hacking tools. Jen On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Eric R. Turner wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dennis Wheeler wrote: > > > > > The company I work for, develops software for Linux servers, and so have > > a need for various/multiple people to logon as root to various servers > > that are under development and being tested. > > > > Is there way to track who is logging in (as root), in order to better > > track who is making changes to which config files? > > > > Use sudo as much as possible! It was designed for the issue you are > facing, and I believe is fairly standard across unix-like operating > systems. Also, consider keeping all of your config files in CVS. That way > not only can you track changes to the config files, but you can also > revert to any prior version if something gets messed up. It also makes a > nice centralized repository of your config files if you have multiple > servers that you want to have the same configuration. > > $.02 > > Eric R. Turner > > -- > My public OpenPGP key can be found at > http://www.wwu.edu/~turnere/turnere.asc > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] pcnfsd??
I am trying to get MacNFS ( www.thursby.com ) working but it keeps asking for PCNFSD support from the server before it will try to connect. I can find absolutely no reference to PCNFSD on Redhat after version 5.0. Am I missing something or are they? Walt -~ Open and obvious devotion from any sort of man is always pleasant to any sort of woman. Rudyard Kipling ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] tracking multiple admin logins?
For our purposes, these machines are only being used internally by development and QA teams. Everyone already has root access to them anyway (until I replace it). So we're not concerned with hacking or security issues. I just need to know who's hand to slap with a wooden ruler when they make changes that breaks something else, or forget to check in their code changes into the source control database (we use Perforce, by the way. An excellent tool). I already have a list of IP addresses on my whiteboard, in case they're still logged in, then I know who they are. Sudo looks to be a better solution. Thanks to all, -- d Jen Hamilton wrote: > > Just be careful of what sudo access you give. For example, do not give > sudo access to perl or vi because they can become excellent hacking tools. > > Jen > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Eric R. Turner wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dennis Wheeler wrote: > > > > > > > > The company I work for, develops software for Linux servers, and so have > > > a need for various/multiple people to logon as root to various servers > > > that are under development and being tested. > > > > > > Is there way to track who is logging in (as root), in order to better > > > track who is making changes to which config files? > > > > > > > Use sudo as much as possible! It was designed for the issue you are > > facing, and I believe is fairly standard across unix-like operating > > systems. Also, consider keeping all of your config files in CVS. That way > > not only can you track changes to the config files, but you can also > > revert to any prior version if something gets messed up. It also makes a > > nice centralized repository of your config files if you have multiple > > servers that you want to have the same configuration. > > > > $.02 > > > > Eric R. Turner > > > > -- > > My public OpenPGP key can be found at > > http://www.wwu.edu/~turnere/turnere.asc > > > > > > ___ > > techtalk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: Vim and regular expressions (was Re: [techtalk] Any good HTML editors for Linux?)
> > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 12:24:13PM -0700, jennyw wrote: > > > I always thought vim was just another vi with a few extras. I > guess it's got > > > more than a few extras ... I'm installing it now. It'll be nice > to try > > > something familiar ... > > > > > > Jen > > > > Some of the features include syntax highlighting, support for the > arrow > > keys whilst in edit mode, and straight from vi, regular > expressions. > > > > In terms of HTML though, where you nearly always want non-greedy > > matches, can someone remind me how I do this. Web searches > invariably > > turn up "and you can use regular expression in vim, perl and blah. > You > > may want non-greedy expressions, in which case, try blah in Perl!" > and > > -perl will turn up the same page with perl5, and so on. An example from "A Practical Guide to the UNIX System" (by Mark G. Sobel) suggests using /([^)]*)/ to match the shortest string enclosed within parentheses. It means, "Find a left parenthesis, followed by 0 or more things that are NOT a right parenthesis, followed by a right parenthesis." The expression /(.*)/ would find the longest string of 0 or more characters enclosed within parentheses. So the trick would be to construct the correct expression using the beginning and ending characters or strings... HTH, Valerie GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
