Re: [RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax?

[cyclotourist]

I presume due to the movement, the moisture penetrates and lifts the wax
right off.  Starts squeaking almost instantly, and visually is gone.  If
you're just talking about the exterior of guns in storage, there aren't
moving parts, so that might be the difference.

For me, the wax is incredibly CLEAN!  I don't think it does as good a job as
Boeshield or similar, but I'll never have a chainring tattoo on my calve!
Can't stand that black nastiness, but that's a personal problem!   :-)

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:58 AM, jim phillips wrote:

>  Why would moisture haver an effect on wax. I wax guns and knives to keep
> them from rusting due to the high humidity here...
>
> JimP
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:22:02 -0800
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax?
> From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
>
> I use a "Fry Baby" deep fryer.  I don't know what temp it heats to.  FYI,
> the wax is useless with the slightest bit of moisture.  Not a problem for me
> in the summer as it performs wonderfully in dry and dusty conditions.
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
> Check out EcoVelo - Alan has several posts on the how-to's and why-
> to's of waxing.
>
> -Pete
>
> On Feb 22, 4:45 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
>  > Surprised I didn't find the definitive answer in the archives, or a
> > riv reader for that matter.
> >
> > The 1992 Bridgestone catalogue mentions using a double boiler, thus
> > 212 Fahrenheit max.
> >
> > Riv Reader Vol 1 Issue 1 says Grant uses a 400 F bath, and says the
> > flash point is 425 F. Also says don't do this at home (liability
> > reasons, one assumes).
> >
> > So, what do the extra 188 F get you? Lower viscosity and better
> > penetration? Has anyone found this to matter, or has anyone the
> > necessary scientific background to theorize upon the topic?
> >
> > Winter here is bone dry season, so it seems like the time to finally
> > try wax after 20 years of cycling.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Gernot
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Re: [RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax?

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FWIW, I poured some graphite in.  The kind in the little squeeze tubes for
doors and such.  Can't hurt.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:50 AM, jlvota  wrote:

> I tried chain waxing for a while, but never really liked it and moved
> on to T9.  I think my problem was that I was commuting daily in all
> weather and some of it was wet, especially in the fall and spring.  I
> think that it would have held up much better if it had been dry.
>
> The biggest drawback for me was that I was screwed if my chain started
> squeaking on a long ride or when I was on a ride away from home and
> couldn't re-wax it.  In those instances, I would just have to throw
> some conventional chain oil on anyway and the whole thing would be a
> huge mess.
>
> One suggestion that did seem to work though when I used wax was adding
> a teflon-based synthetic motor additive to the wax (just a very little
> amount though, maybe 5% or so).  Although it's not as green as
> beeswax, it seemed to perform and lubricate much better than strait
> wax*
>
> *extremely unscientific claim
>
> On Feb 22, 3:45 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
> > Surprised I didn't find the definitive answer in the archives, or a
> > riv reader for that matter.
> >
> > The 1992 Bridgestone catalogue mentions using a double boiler, thus
> > 212 Fahrenheit max.
> >
> > Riv Reader Vol 1 Issue 1 says Grant uses a 400 F bath, and says the
> > flash point is 425 F. Also says don't do this at home (liability
> > reasons, one assumes).
> >
> > So, what do the extra 188 F get you? Lower viscosity and better
> > penetration? Has anyone found this to matter, or has anyone the
> > necessary scientific background to theorize upon the topic?
> >
> > Winter here is bone dry season, so it seems like the time to finally
> > try wax after 20 years of cycling.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Gernot
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Re: [RBW] Re: Warning: non-scientific experiment under construction (650B vs 700C)

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On topic:  Tagua nuts!

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:31 PM, William  wrote:

> Tarantulas.
>
> On Feb 25, 12:20 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
> > textiles?
> >
> > On Feb 25, 12:13 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dang, Bill you are driving me down the road to ruin. All this talk
> > > about Hetres being faster/smoother/better is making me want a 650B
> > > bike even more.
> > > After convincing my SO that I was not fickle and I could keep a bike
> > > for at least a few years, I'm seriously contemplating some 650B
> > > experiments of my own. (Must be that Engineer/Scientist brain
> > > phenomenon).
> >
> > > At least you didn't mention the T word!
> >
> > > ~Mike
> >
> > > On Feb 25, 12:02 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> >
> > > > On my own I don't care how fast I go. My goal is to enjoy the
> > > > outdoors, exercise my body or to get somewhere. When I ride with
> > > > others I want to go fast enough to stay with the group, or perhaps
> > > > meet some time limit in an organized ride.
> > > > And I still enjoy pushing my body and going fast, sometimes (actually
> > > > most of the time)
> > > > It also means I can cover a greater distance and see more.
> >
> > > > I don't see those as bad things. Each person has their own personal
> > > > goals and preferences.  If I'm happy with mine than it doesn't matter
> > > > what others think
> >
> > > > ~Mike
> >
> > > > On Feb 25, 11:34 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Very cool idea to have one bike that works for both sizes, and a
> > > > > stroke of minor genius to think of up-sizing the 650B bike, rather
> > > > > than down-sizing a 700. I was hoping I could convert my Sam to
> 650B,
> > > > > just to see what all the fuss is about, but it only took a few
> > > > > measurements to see that it wouldn't really work.
> >
> > > > > I am curious to see your test results, but can't see how they'd be
> in
> > > > > any way meaningful - jut too many variables.
> >
> > > > > I can see how speed matters on a brevet, and to some degree on
> commute
> > > > > (especially a 35-miler) but I, too, keep coming back to Grant's
> > > > > question (paraphrased): "If we all like riding so much, why are we
> > > > > always in such a hurry to get it over with as fast as possible?"
> >
> > > > > On Feb 25, 1:04 pm, William  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > OK so I made a sort of self-indulgent mod to my A. Homer Hilsen.
>  I
> > > > > > set up the normally 650B bike with a 700C wheelset and short
> reach
> > > > > > brakes.  It's a wheelset I already had, and a short-reach
> brakeset I
> > > > > > already had.  So now I have a single bike that can easily be
> taken on
> > > > > > a ride with 650Bx(whatever) tires one day, and taken on the same
> ride
> > > > > > with 700x(23-28) tires the next, or whatever.
> >
> > > > > > I bought the bike because of the feel of 650B, and I'm thrilled
> with
> > > > > > it.  Like most of you, I've been skeptical of the claims from Jan
> H
> > > > > > and others that fat tires are faster.  That said, on brevets in
> the
> > > > > > last couple of months, I've been surprised at how quickly I catch
> and
> > > > > > pass riders on coasting descents when I'm on 650x38 at 50psi and
> they
> > > > > > are on 700x23 and I presume 90-110psi.  That's anecdotal, and
> doesn't
> > > > > > necessarily mean anything, but it was surprising.
> >
> > > > > > So, now I think it will be fun to do a pseudo-scientific spot
> > > > > > comparison between 650B and 700C.  My commute to work is a
> 35-mile
> > > > > > hilly ride through the east bay hills from El Cerrito to South
> > > > > > Hayward.  A good chunk of that is a non-stop stretch.  I can
> usually
> > > > > > get from my front door to a traffic signal in front of Castro
> Valley
> > > > > > High School without stopping or putting my foot down.  The next
> 10
> > > > > > times I do this commute, I'm going to alternate between the two
> > > > > > wheelsets, and record my time for the same non-stop stretch for
> these
> > > > > > ten rides.  The 650B tires will be hetres at 50/45psi, and the
> 700C
> > > > > > tires will be continental gatorskin 28s at 85/80psi.
> >
> > > > > > Anyone care to guess which will seem faster?  Too close to call?
> > > > > > Impossible to test unless the rider is blind to the wheel
> > > > > > configuration?  Any advice on keeping the data clean?- Hide
> quoted text -
> >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium

[cyclotourist]

Brand new with tags.  I wear a medium in everything else, but these are a
touch too tight.  I can get them on my 34 waist, but they are uncomfortably
tight when on, so they run a bit small

$90 shipped to your door.


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium

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I'd try 'em on, or get a medium and a large and send back the one that
doesn't fit.  A 33 would be right on the edge IMHO...

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:47 AM, CCX  wrote:

> I have a 33 waist and wear medium PI shorts- what would be you opinion
> on the fit?
>
> Jim
>
> I might go out and try some on a rei, but I was curious about the fit.
>
> On Feb 27, 11:57 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Brand new with tags.  I wear a medium in everything else, but these are a
> > touch too tight.  I can get them on my 34 waist, but they are
> uncomfortably
> > tight when on, so they run a bit small
> >
> > $90 shipped to your door.
> >
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[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium

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Sold, thanks for the interest!

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:57 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

>
> Brand new with tags.  I wear a medium in everything else, but these are a
> touch too tight.  I can get them on my 34 waist, but they are uncomfortably
> tight when on, so they run a bit small
>
>
> $90 shipped to your door.
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

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Cool video, I like it!

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Minh  wrote:

> Thanks guys, figured i was just getting frustrated, this was like 4th
> tire i mounted on Saturday :)
>
> i found a decent youtube video, no levers!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?

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Wait to find a useed Thomson in silver.  They're the best-est.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Justin August wrote:

> Edit: This is for my Bleriot of course.
>
> On Mar 2, 10:10 pm, Justin August  wrote:
> > Hey folks -
> > I'm looking for an affordable seatpost with less setback than the VO
> > post. I don't really feel like springing for the Nitto post. VO has a
> > "nice" Kalloy post but I'm never sure on budget parts without
> > recommendations. Any parts that y'all like that are less spendy?
> >
> > -Justin
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

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IIRC, the city bike was going to be all black, so maybe there's another bike
in the works from Riv-Works.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:59 AM, newenglandbike wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 4, 1:13 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > Grant's wording on this bluish one includes a virtual guarantee that
> > there will be more Sams made in this color.
> >
>
>
> It doesn't seem like a guarantee that the SH will get that color.
> the post says:   "It's a color we're considering for something, and
> wanted to see it on a bike, so had Wford make the bike, paint it
> thusly".
>
> It seems to mean that they have another project/bike in mind for this
> color,  which is more intriguing IMHO  :D I have read that
> Rivendell is working out the details of a heavy duty, low price city-
> bike later this year.
>
> Personally I think with the SH already having had two colors, maybe
> it's better to give another one of their models a new hue.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

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I think the color and that is going to be Soma's call.

That blue is gorgeous, so what ever it ends up on will be out of the park!


On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Bruce  wrote:

> The "Amos?"
>
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> maybe there's another bike in the works from Riv-Works.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

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Is there a solution for carrying stainless steel bottles?  They don't fit
well in traditional cages, although I know it can be done.


On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Ron MH  wrote:
> > I heard this story as well and must say I'm not really that surprised.
> > Part of me has a deep mistrust of plastics and their use in food
> > containers of any kind. The estrogen-like compounds leeched by
> > plastics may be having serious consequences for our health - including
> > our reproductive future. I suspect that once these dangers come to
> > light and the cost of petroleum products continues its inexorable
> > rise, the use of plastics will dramatically fall.
> >
>
>
>
> Not sure if I'd want to use these on a bike or not but for
> casual/house/travel use
>
> http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/ACC/LF0022
>
> works well and tastes good.
>
> How do the kleen canteens measure up these days?
>
> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

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The Nittos?  I have the Nittos and put a 27oz bottle in, and looks like it
wouldn't stay put for more than a ride around the block.  That was just
guesstimating though as I didn't actually ride around said block with them.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > Is there a solution for carrying stainless steel bottles?  They don't fit
> > well in traditional cages, although I know it can be done.
> >
> >
>
> I've found the kleen canteen ones work pretty well in the cages that riv
> offers.
>
> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

[cyclotourist]

OK, I've heard of those... the Iris model?
http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Rene Sterental  wrote:

> I use them with King cages and they work very well. I use the cages that
> have the non-standard shape, the cage is shaped like a V. I can't remember
> what they're called.
>
> Rene
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:03 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> The Nittos?  I have the Nittos and put a 27oz bottle in, and looks like it
> wouldn't stay put for more than a ride around the block.  That was just
> guesstimating though as I didn't actually ride around said block with them.
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal < 
> skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, cyclotourist < 
>> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is there a solution for carrying stainless steel bottles?  They don't
>> fit
>> > well in traditional cages, although I know it can be done.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I've found the kleen canteen ones work pretty well in the cages that riv
>> offers.
>>
>> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

[cyclotourist]

Do you have to wrap it in leather or anything like that?

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> OK, I've heard of those... the Iris model?
> http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Rene Sterental wrote:
>
>> I use them with King cages and they work very well. I use the cages that
>> have the non-standard shape, the cage is shaped like a V. I can't remember
>> what they're called.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:03 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>
>> The Nittos?  I have the Nittos and put a 27oz bottle in, and looks like it
>> wouldn't stay put for more than a ride around the block.  That was just
>> guesstimating though as I didn't actually ride around said block with them.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal < 
>> skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, cyclotourist < 
>>> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Is there a solution for carrying stainless steel bottles?  They don't
>>> fit
>>> > well in traditional cages, although I know it can be done.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> I've found the kleen canteen ones work pretty well in the cages that riv
>>> offers.
>>>
>>> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?

[cyclotourist]

I have a VO 2 bolt, and it slips down the seat tube over time.  Never had
any other seatpost do that, and I don't want to have to super-crank on the
bolt to tighten it.  Thinking about selling if anyone is interested.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, RoadieRyan  wrote:

> My 2 Cents, got a cheap Kalloy and could not keep it adjusted, it was
> one bolt and no matter how much I cranked the bolt it would not stay
> in place for more than a couple rides, of course my being 5'11" and
> 240 (at the time) was probably part of the issue.
>
> I have used a VO 2 bolt post for the last year plus and LOVE it, worth
> every penny.   One other that I like the look of and hear good things
> about is a NOS Ultegra seat post with the laser etched logo, but they
> seem to be pretty rare.
>
>
> On Mar 5, 3:55 pm, Phil Brown  wrote:
> > The 2 bolt Campy Record i tough to beat and plenty are available used,
> > esp. in 27.2.
> > Phil Brown
> > Have plenty of them myself in Oakland, Calif.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

[cyclotourist]

On bumpy dirt trails, too?

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Bruce  wrote:

> I use the regular king cages, just bend them in slightly (by hand) to grip
> the Kleen Kanteen more tighly. Just back from a ride thusly equipped, in
> fact.
>
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> *Sent:* Sun, March 6, 2011 4:39:11 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals
>
> Do you have to wrap it in leather or anything like that?
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> OK, I've heard of those... the Iris model?
>> http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Rene Sterental wrote:
>>
>>> I use them with King cages and they work very well. I use the cages that
>>> have the non-standard shape, the cage is shaped like a V. I can't remember
>>> what they're called.
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:03 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>>
>>> The Nittos?  I have the Nittos and put a 27oz bottle in, and looks like
>>> it wouldn't stay put for more than a ride around the block.  That was just
>>> guesstimating though as I didn't actually ride around said block with them.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal < 
>>> skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, cyclotourist < 
>>>> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Is there a solution for carrying stainless steel bottles?  They don't
>>>> fit
>>>> > well in traditional cages, although I know it can be done.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I've found the kleen canteen ones work pretty well in the cages that riv
>>>> offers.
>>>>
>>>> -sv
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?

[cyclotourist]

I don't know if my calipers are that sensitive, but I'll look into it!  Mine
has a decent scratch in it as well...

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > I have a VO 2 bolt, and it slips down the seat tube over time.  Never had
> > any other seatpost do that, and I don't want to have to super-crank on
> the
> > bolt to tighten it.  Thinking about selling if anyone is interested.
> >
>
> I had one do the same thing. Then I took a set of calipers out and measured
> it.
>
> it's 27.0 not 27.2. I talked to the folks at VO - they said
> occasionally they'll get some that are overly-polished and reduced in
> size.
>
> They took it back, gave me a little grief about a scratch on it but
> not too much.
>
> buy the nitto.
> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

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This rough stuff riding!  :-)

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Bruce  wrote:

> Hydration pack when on MTB
>
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>
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals
>
> On bumpy dirt trails, too?
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Bruce  wrote:
>
>> I use the regular king cages, just bend them in slightly (by hand) to grip
>> the Kleen Kanteen more tighly. Just back from a ride thusly equipped, in
>> fact.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?

[cyclotourist]

Good idea, and I might take you up on it!

The bigger problem is more of the "I shouldn't have to..." variety.  The
part should just work well right out of the box w/out Locktite, filing,
sanding, coating, etc.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Loctite solves both the slipping clamp and the post slipping in the seat
> tube (assuming that you have the right size seatpost for the seat tube).
> Must be true, I won $25 from Bicycling for this tip some 15 years ago. (Not
> to mention that both applications have worked for me. At least for 5'11" and
> 170 and 56.)
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:43 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> I have a VO 2 bolt, and it slips down the seat tube over time.  Never had
>> any other seatpost do that, and I don't want to have to super-crank on the
>> bolt to tighten it.  Thinking about selling if anyone is interested.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, RoadieRyan  wrote:
>>
>>> My 2 Cents, got a cheap Kalloy and could not keep it adjusted, it was
>>> one bolt and no matter how much I cranked the bolt it would not stay
>>> in place for more than a couple rides, of course my being 5'11" and
>>> 240 (at the time) was probably part of the issue.
>>>
>>> I have used a VO 2 bolt post for the last year plus and LOVE it, worth
>>> every penny.   One other that I like the look of and hear good things
>>> about is a NOS Ultegra seat post with the laser etched logo, but they
>>> seem to be pretty rare.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 5, 3:55 pm, Phil Brown  wrote:
>>> > The 2 bolt Campy Record i tough to beat and plenty are available used,
>>> > esp. in 27.2.
>>> > Phil Brown
>>> > Have plenty of them myself in Oakland, Calif.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

[cyclotourist]

I just bought some of the Iris cages and hope they'll be fine.  The problem
w/ the lovely Nitto cages is the top bend that's made to hold onto the
plastic bottle.  I considered straightening it, but don't want to live with
the consequence of not doing a good job on that!

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:13 PM, RoadieRyan  wrote:

> I use my kleen Kanteens on Novara alloy cages and they fit fine the
> only issues being some rattle, that is easily solved by slipping a
> pearl izumi sock over the bottle -no more rattle- and its a great use
> for those synthetic socks I no longer use since I discovered wool ;-)
>
> Thusly
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/sets/72157626086857697/
>
> On Mar 6, 2:41 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:39 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > > Do you have to wrap it in leather or anything like that?
> >
> > I'm using the regular king cage. And the only thing I found is to take
> > some rubber bands and wrap around it a few times.
> >
> > it keeps the noise down and the rubberbands keep it from moving.
> >
> > -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Plastic Water Bottles Leach Chemicals

[cyclotourist]

Will know for myself in a few days!  :-)

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Rene Sterental  wrote:

> No. No need to wrap them.
>
> Rene
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:39 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> Do you have to wrap it in leather or anything like that?
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM, cyclotourist < 
> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, I've heard of those... the Iris model?
>> <http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html>
>> http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Rene Sterental < 
>> orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I use them with King cages and they work very well. I use the cages that
>>> have the non-standard shape, the cage is shaped like a V. I can't remember
>>> what they're called.
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:03 PM, cyclotourist < 
>>> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Nittos?  I have the Nittos and put a 27oz bottle in, and looks like
>>> it wouldn't stay put for more than a ride around the block.  That was just
>>> guesstimating though as I didn't actually ride around said block with them.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal < 
>>> 
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>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, cyclotourist < 
>>>> 
>>>> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Is there a solution for carrying stainless steel bottles?  They don't
>>>> fit
>>>> > well in traditional cages, although I know it can be done.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I've found the kleen canteen ones work pretty well in the cages that riv
>>>> offers.
>>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Thule fork mount long trays

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I have a new car with a shorter roof line, and can't use my existing short
tray racks.  Wondering if someone has any long trays lying that around they
want to sell.  I don't need the actual fork mount part, just the trays.  One
would be okay, but two would be better.

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Today's brevet.

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Yikes!  At least you did it!!!  Now get to bed!!!

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Mike  wrote:

> Uggh, what a sufferfest.  200k of rain, heavy legs, rain, wind, rain,
> cold, more rain, some sun, and still more rain for the final 4 miles
> or so. The Hilsen was fine although I'll probably do my next brevet
> with Jack Brown greens. I rode today's brevet on Schwalbe Marathon
> Supremes (35s) and while they're nice they're just not my tire of
> choice for brevets. I think JB greens or Paselas (32s) are the way to
> go.
>
> I'm cooked. Time for bed.
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626128572843/with/5521164361/
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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder on Chicago CL

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*Fantastiic bike*!  Great color and build.  Hope you get many years of use
from it!  I can see how it's similar to an XO-1.  Glad the custom geo fits
you well!


On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Kentileguy  wrote:

> Wheels are Mavic 217 SUP laced to XTR hubs (M950 I think). Tires are
> Vredestein Monte Carlo. I know nothing about them , but they're like
> new, so I guess I'll be using them for a while. Not really sure how I
> will build this up, it was really an impulse buy. I'm picturing
> something on the heavy duty end of the spectrum. I threw some drop
> bars and a seat on it last night and rode it around my living room.
> (my wife was out ). It reminds me of the XO-1 I sold a while back. I
> would like to do a little research on the frame, it has a Waterford
> decal and a "96" in the serial #. The original owner said it was
> custom made, which makes sense, the 56cm seat tube and 56cm top tube
> don't match up with the standard geo info I've found, but it felt
> perfect while I was chasing my dog around the house. Not having any
> brakes made it interesting!
>
> On Mar 12, 9:05 am, omnigrid  wrote:
> > what tires and wheels do you have on there? looking good.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Marty  wrote:
> > > One of the nicest I've seen for sure. I don't think it will see much
> > > garage time!
> >
> > > On Mar 12, 2:10 am, grrlyrida  wrote:
> > > > Wow. That is a gorgeous bike.
> >
> > > > On Mar 11, 8:15 pm, AmiSingh  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Purrdy Bike There!- Hide quoted text -
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Re: [RBW] Re: After the Flood

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Eric, when ya' coming back out?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5524721152/



On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:05 AM, EricP  wrote:

> Was also waiting for the fall.  Looks like you have more ice.  And
> what's that green stuff on the ground?  I've heard it's called "grass"
> but we don't see that for a couple more weeks.  Sigh.
>
> Did sound like studded tires.  But I still commend you for riding over
> the icy sections.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Mar 13, 12:49 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> > Wow!!!
> >
> > Looks alien to a tropical guy like me who now lives in the SF Bay Area...
> > Kudos to you for riding when it's like that outside!!! I was all tense
> > waiting for the fall that never happened... :-)
> >
> > René
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

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Only one real MCA !  :-)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:

> That's funny. I thought I was the only one who felt that way about
> MCA. I only had to go on his blog once to figure that out. However
> he's very popular on the cycling blogosphere. I could only sit through
> the vid for a few minutes before I turned it off.
>
> On Mar 15, 5:03 pm, eflayer  wrote:
> > not sure what the points of view are, but this guy, to me, is an hot
> > air baloonfull of hot air. Not even considering his point of view
> > about helmets, just how arrrogant he sounds/is:
> >
> > http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video/911034/mikael-colville-andersen
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

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Egads people, start your own google group already.  You can call it "Bicycle
Helmet Discussion:  Is syrofoam for you?"
It's quite easy and fun.  Really, give it a try.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis

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On 3/17/11, Mojo  wrote:
> If you are looking at an Atlantis, then you are likely in tune with
> the Riv philosophy. That may not be necessarily true if you were
> looking at a Roadeo for instance. The folks have many decades
> experience fitting thousands of mostly happy folks to fine bikes. I
> suggest you can trust their judgment. Call and tell them your
> experience, your concerns, and what you want to do with your new bike.
> I am quite certain you will be pleased.
>
> For me in the late 90s, I was shocked when they wanted to sell me a
> 61-62cm frame after I had been riding 58s for over a decade.  They
> were so right.
>
> On Mar 17, 7:55 pm, Khalid Mateen  wrote:
>> Hello everyone:
>>
>> I am new to this forum and I have a question to ask about ordering an
>> Atlantis.  I have taken my PBH but I am no where near Walnut Creek
>> California.  I am on the east coast of the US and no where near a
>> Rivendell
>> Dealer.  Can you tell me, your experience of bicycle fit when ordering
>> over
>> the phone a bicycle that you have never tried?  Did the bicycle feel to
>> big
>> or too small?  I have always heard good things about the people who work
>> for
>> Rivendell Bicycle works but wanted to ask people who actually purchase
>> their
>> bicycles.
>>
>> THanks
>>
>> Khalid
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis

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Hello Khalid, as others noted, definitely call and talk it over with
the staff at Rivendell.  They know their bikes better than anyone
else!  They will most likely recommend a size larger than what you
would consider, but 90% of the time they are spot on.  You may wonder
about that other 10%.  I know there are some folks that have said they
wish they purchased the smaller size, rather than what they ended up
with.  They have a valid point, but I (and hopefully they) would say
they are in the small minority there.  Doug's touring on his Atlantis
right now, or else I'm sure he would be the first to reply in
encouraging you to get one.  Great bike that most people can do
everything they would ever want to on.

So give 'em a call & talk it over.  Measure and re-measure your PBH.
Really consider what kind of tires you will be using and where you
will be riding.  Think about it all, but do trust the merry elves of
Rivendell.

On 3/17/11, cyclotourist  wrote:
> On 3/17/11, Mojo  wrote:
>> If you are looking at an Atlantis, then you are likely in tune with
>> the Riv philosophy. That may not be necessarily true if you were
>> looking at a Roadeo for instance. The folks have many decades
>> experience fitting thousands of mostly happy folks to fine bikes. I
>> suggest you can trust their judgment. Call and tell them your
>> experience, your concerns, and what you want to do with your new bike.
>> I am quite certain you will be pleased.
>>
>> For me in the late 90s, I was shocked when they wanted to sell me a
>> 61-62cm frame after I had been riding 58s for over a decade.  They
>> were so right.
>>
>> On Mar 17, 7:55 pm, Khalid Mateen  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone:
>>>
>>> I am new to this forum and I have a question to ask about ordering an
>>> Atlantis.  I have taken my PBH but I am no where near Walnut Creek
>>> California.  I am on the east coast of the US and no where near a
>>> Rivendell
>>> Dealer.  Can you tell me, your experience of bicycle fit when ordering
>>> over
>>> the phone a bicycle that you have never tried?  Did the bicycle feel to
>>> big
>>> or too small?  I have always heard good things about the people who work
>>> for
>>> Rivendell Bicycle works but wanted to ask people who actually purchase
>>> their
>>> bicycles.
>>>
>>> THanks
>>>
>>> Khalid
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Re: [RBW] Atlantis sighting

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Where are "these parts"?

Atlantii and all Rivendells are unfortunately few and far between.
I'm always excited when I see one, too!

On 3/17/11, hagna  wrote:
> I saw a guy on an Atlantis at about 17:15 on my way home from work,
> but I didn't get out of the car and stop him.  I did pull over after I
> passed him to get another look at the bike.  It looked good.
>
> After seeing so many mountain bikes with shocks I figured I'd never
> see someone on a riv bike around these parts.
>
> By the way I'm not an owner yet.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis

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FWIW, Wallingford has a FANTASTIC return/exchange policy on saddles,
might want to look them up if you're not sure on the saddle:
http://wallbike.com/catalog/saddles/berthoud-leatherline-saddles


On 3/20/11, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Hi Khalid,
>
> I think the Berthoud saddle is worth it's cost. It's certainly more
> comfortable and there are absolutely no issues with the plastic bottom. In
> fact, it's almost invisible with a saddlebag. I've also heard a lot of
> complaints regarding durability with the newer Brooks saddles. Anyway, for
> me the saddle width is perfect and I love its flatter top. My Brooks had to
> have the nose so high so I wouldn't slide forward so much.
>
> Enjoy your Atlantis!
>
> René
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Khalid Mateen  wrote:
>
> Just want to reply that I like how your bicycle is set up Rene even the
> saddle.  I have read that the new Berthoud Gilles Saddles are comfortable
> although some people think it is kind of cheap that they have that plastic
> under there.  Even though that is the case, there hasnt been any reports
> that the plastic has cracked during the riding and in fact, people have said
> that this plastic material is strong.  It also looks like they put alot of
> thought in designing that saddle to compete with the Brooks since it has
> thicker leather and parts can be easily replace versus hammered copper nails
> of the Brooks.  ALso, it is alot more expensive than the Brooks ($225 at
> PeterWhite Cycles).  It may be worth it if you get alot of wear and tear out
> of the saddle and parts can be easily replaced.
>
> Thanks
>
> Khalid Mateen
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
>> Based on my personal experience, the choice between the 58 and 61 frames
>> will really come down to the desired effective distance to your handlebars
>> for your own personal fit. I'm 5'11" and my saddle height is 79cm, which
>> means id be at the top recommend range for the 58 or in the middle for the
>> 61. Riv put me on a 61 which is perfect vertically, but based on where I
>> need the brake hoods to be so in order to minimize/avoid shoulder and neck
>> pain, I've ended up with a 7cm stem and my bars exactly 1" higher than my
>> saddle.
>>
>> If I wanted to ride with a longer stem which could have a different effect
>> on the handling of the bike, the I would need the 58 but also a taller
>> stem
>> and would show more seat post and stem post to preserve the saddle height
>> and bars relationship. If I didn't have the left shoulder pain, then I'd
>> probably be riding an 8-9 cm stem.
>>
>> This is applicable to Noodle bars which have a long reach. With other drop
>> bars or bar types such as Albatross or Moustache bars, the stem length
>> would
>> have to be adjusted accordingly.
>>
>> So, the fine points to consider when talking with Riv to choose a size
>> should be your preferred position in terms of how upright or bent forwards
>> you want to be, the type of bars you'll want to use and the height of the
>> bars in relation to your saddle. Even if you have trouble measuring your
>> PBH
>> (I couldn't do it right until they did it), measure the distance between
>> the
>> top of the saddle and the center of the crank arms along the seat post on
>> your current bike where i assume you are properly fit and use that as a
>> guide.
>>
>> Last, trust their advice and if needed, send them a photo of you on your
>> current bike so they can asses your riding position and make additional
>> recommendations. Forget about your current preconceptions about stand-over
>> height and trust them. They'll stand by you and giver you good advise.
>>
>> I have both a 61cm Atlantis and a Homer, but the 60cm Bombadil they
>> recommended turned out to be too long for me with its longer top tube. And
>> I'm running 50mm Marathon Supremes on the Atlantis, which make it taller
>> than thinner tires. Vertically, however, it fits perfectly. With the 7 cm
>> stem I have the best fit I've ever had on a road bike in my entire life.
>> More importantly, I'm starting to ride completely pain free on most of my
>> rides now.  And of course, working on the causes of the pain with a good
>> chiropractor. It's amazing how unbalanced we get physically over the years
>> as we get older and hit the 5th floor!
>>
>> Congratulations on choosing to get an Atlantis. You can check mine here:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157625129486363/
>>
>> René
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:44 AM, William  wrote:
>>
>> > Khalid
>> >
>> > I'm certain that both of those sizes (58 and 61) will work for you.
>> > Riv in general will not tell you that you need 2 inches of clearance.
>> > It's more likely that they'll tell you that 2 inches of clearance
>> > liberates you to go bigger.  It also depends somewhat on who you talk
>> > to.  I'm considering an Atlantis this year or next, and I could ride a
>> > 58 or a 61 (PBH 87).  When I visited Riv H

[RBW] FS: Bridgestone "Horse of a different color" poster

[cyclotourist]

New, never hung, in original box shipped from Grant Petersen's garage
during the last days of the BOB/beginning of RBW.  IIRC these are
going for around $100 on ebay, so I would like to sell it here for $75
shipped in the CONUS.

Pix of the rolled up one and a mounted one to show as an example

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5545133598/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone "Horse of a different color" poster

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Aand it looks like we have a winner!

Poster is spoken for, thanks for the interest!!!

On 3/20/11, cyclotourist  wrote:
> New, never hung, in original box shipped from Grant Petersen's garage
> during the last days of the BOB/beginning of RBW.  IIRC these are
> going for around $100 on ebay, so I would like to sell it here for $75
> shipped in the CONUS.
>
> Pix of the rolled up one and a mounted one to show as an example
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5545133598/in/photostream/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5544557383/in/photostream/
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[RBW] FS: Misc Bike Stuff

[cyclotourist]

King Cage Iris stainless steel h20 cages - new - $25 for two, including shipping
650C Mavic Open Pro-Dura Ace 36^ rear wheel - $50 + shipping
650C Vittoria 20mm tires - one NIB, one mounted - $30 for both, shipped
650C Mavic Pro SUP rim 32^ new/unlaced - $25 + shipping
24" Sachs Pentasport P5 wheel with NIB shifter/clickbox and hardware
and matching front wheel with tires- $75 + shipping - I can pull just
the hub if you don't want the wheel and wish to save shipping.  Front
wheel is tacoed a bit and missing a spoke.  Rebuildable, no biggie if
you have the time/inclination.

See wonderful artistic photos here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/archives/date-taken/2011/03/26/

Paypal preferred, can ship Monday.  If the price is lame, make me an offer.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Misc Bike Stuff

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King cages are sold.

BTW, looking for Honjos/Berthoud fenders if you want trade/partial trade.

On 3/26/11, cyclotourist  wrote:
> King Cage Iris stainless steel h20 cages - new - $25 for two, including
> shipping
> 650C Mavic Open Pro-Dura Ace 36^ rear wheel - $50 + shipping
> 650C Vittoria 20mm tires - one NIB, one mounted - $30 for both, shipped
> 650C Mavic Pro SUP rim 32^ new/unlaced - $25 + shipping
> 24" Sachs Pentasport P5 wheel with NIB shifter/clickbox and hardware
> and matching front wheel with tires- $75 + shipping - I can pull just
> the hub if you don't want the wheel and wish to save shipping.  Front
> wheel is tacoed a bit and missing a spoke.  Rebuildable, no biggie if
> you have the time/inclination.
>
> See wonderful artistic photos here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/archives/date-taken/2011/03/26/
>
> Paypal preferred, can ship Monday.  If the price is lame, make me an offer.
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[RBW] Reminder: Redlands Ride this Sunday 4/3

[cyclotourist]

Friendly reminder about this month's upcoming get together in
Redlands.  I know it's Spring Break time, but hope folks can make this
one.  Should be a GREAT day.  My favorite route through the hills,
with several options depending on concensus.  About an hour and a half
from San Diego, an hour from OC, little more than an hour from the
West LA.  Tails are PERFECT, everything is green, and the beer is
cold.
Conversation with maps and a few pix is here:
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Re: [RBW] Reminder: Redlands Ride this Sunday 4/3

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Well it is a Rivndell ride... Bring your foppish best!

On 3/29/11, James Warren  wrote:
>
> I figured that tails would be perfect for this, but are we also doing
> top-hats and canes?
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: cyclotourist 
>>Tails are PERFECT, everything is green, and the beer is
>>cold.
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[RBW] Re: Reminder: Redlands Ride this Sunday 4/3

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Looks like the ride is going to have to be cancelled.  Everybody has
something to do or is sick (or both!), so mark your calendar for next
year!!!

On 3/29/11, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Friendly reminder about this month's upcoming get together in
> Redlands.  I know it's Spring Break time, but hope folks can make this
> one.  Should be a GREAT day.  My favorite route through the hills,
> with several options depending on concensus.  About an hour and a half
> from San Diego, an hour from OC, little more than an hour from the
> West LA.  Tails are PERFECT, everything is green, and the beer is
> cold.
> Conversation with maps and a few pix is here:
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157625924492555/
>If you're not on flickr, drop me a line to confirm!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Laken aluminum watter bottles rattle in cages?

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+1 for the King Iris cages.  Just bought them last week, and very
happy with them. Work great w/ 23oz metal bottles and are slightly
bendable.Good stuff.  FWIW, I got 'em from these guys on ebay:
http://tinyurl.com/4xa9cdz

On 4/4/11, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> Just a personal opinion, but I don't think the Nitto cages are
> particularly sturdy.  Very handsome, and obviously well made, but not
> very tough.  I've had two of them on my Riv Road and took them off,
> after bending one somewhat askew when I shouldered my bike to carry it
> up some stairs.  At the time, I was using a conventional large size
> plastic water bottle (not a Klean Kanteen).  I think the larger size
> of the Kleen Kanteen (27 oz.) would be particularly ill suited for a
> Nitto cage, although the 18 oz. bottle would probably work
> sufficiently well.
>
> At this point, I'm using a classic Specialites T..A. steel water
> bottle cage, which is sturdy as all git out, and another T.A. cage
> that was originally marketed for the "Randonneur" aluminum water
> bottles that T.A. made.  These cages are squarish in configuration,
> and held the aluminum bottle that was either 750ml or 1000ml in size.
> The original water bottle had a "Grolsch" beer type cap.  Just by
> luck, I purchase a couple of Laken Prisma water bottles from REI last
> year that are virtually the same form factor and have a sport cap,
> with a capacity of 1000 ml
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Apr 4, 6:24 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> I had one of those fail, but not as quickly as yours. VO promptly sent me
>> a replacement, and I haven't had any trouble since then (about a year
>> ago).
>>
>> During that time, on another bike, a genuine Nitto cage broke. I checked
>> with Rivendell, and the said it was out of warranty.
>>
>> Bike stuff breaks. Some manufacturers stand behind their stuff better than
>> others.
>>
>> --Eric N
>> Sent from the iPad 2
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Benedikt  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I had two VO Retro Waterbottle cages
>> >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage...
>> > and I a weld broke on one within 50 miles.  Granted I may have
>> > squeezed it a little to much but it seemed pretty flimsy.
>>
>> > I just picked up two King Cage Iris
>> > cageshttp://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/Cage3.jpg
>> > and, while I haven't rode with them yet, they look far superior.  Less
>> > welds.  Stronger looking welds.  Thicker tubing.  They appear to hold
>> > the Kleen Canteen waterbottles pretty snug and standard plastic
>> > cycling waterbottles VERY well.
>>
>> > On Mar 14, 10:01 am, Forrest  wrote:
>> >> For those of you who have used them (or I guess ridden in close
>> >> proximity to them), do the Laken aluminum watter bottles sold by RBW
>> >> tend to rattle in cages such as the King and the Nitto? Or pretty
>> >> solid/silent in those? Thanks.  -- Forrest
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas

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Or as Velouria says, the Co-Habitant?  :-)

On 4/5/11, TSW  wrote:
> It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk.  A reason
> I like visiting places like Lovely Bicycle (today's post is quite a
> propos: http://tinyurl.com/4xwsdyk)
>
> Speaking of the term "the wife," is it anything like "the hubby?"
> which in places like Yelp you'll find quite often, which seems more to
> be a kind of post-feminist Gen-Y thing.
>
> What male cyclist with a female partner doesn't want to get her more
> into cycling?  Making a place more inclusive, either online, or at the
> bikeshop or on the road, can only help.
>
> TSW
>
> On Apr 4, 1:24 pm, Liesl  wrote:
>> Good to hear from Rivendell Chicas.  As an avid-reader-but-seldom-
>> poster of the RBW Owners Bunch, I often lament that there is such a
>> limited involvement from women (myself sadly included).  Anne, yours
>> is one of the few women's voices I see regularly, and so it's been sad
>> to see that no one has responded to your post.  When I read frequent
>> references to things like "the wife," while I don't assume it is meant
>> to be a put-down, it does contribute to making me feel that I am
>> entering a male space.  It's so often used when men are choosing and
>> buying bikes for their women... I have loved few things more than
>> learning about bike design, parts, and outfitting myself so that I can
>> ride all year round here in Minnesota. What an adventure of the heart,
>> spirit, and body.
>>
>> So, perhaps there are folks out there who have the opposite problem of
>> big guys' bikes with their double top tubes and diagatubes and so
>> forth, that seek recommendations for the little bikes, ones that are
>> in the 48 to 52 cm range.  For example, I've struggled with saddle bag/
>> rack combinations for bikes with not much room between the saddle and
>> the fender!  I found that Mark's Rack works rwonderfully because its
>> height and distance from the saddle are infinitely adjustable.  I've
>> used it with my old Baggins Adam (the just-smaller-than-the-Hoss for
>> you old timers).
>>
>> Also, at a recent--and really enjoyable--visit to Riv HQ, the women's
>> small WoolyWarm vest and button-up, which I believe at one time were
>> boasted in the ever memorable e-less catalog to be appropriate for
>> Baffin Island, fits a 5'2", slightly plump, 50+ year old woman, and
>> the little Hunq is a blast for the same sized/aged person.
>>
>> Maybe I'll even go crazy and post pictures of my 2006 red 50cm Saluki
>> and my  2009 clear-coat Proto Bleriot set up as a poor woman's
>> Quickbeam.
>>
>> Okay women, I'll stop being a lurker if you will.
>>
>> fondly,
>> Liesl
>>
>> On Apr 2, 9:36 pm, Anne Paulson  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among
>> > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a
>> > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color
>> > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other
>> > Rivendell chicas.
>>
>> > --
>> > -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> > My hovercraft is full of eels
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

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I've come to appreciate threadless.  The ease of setting them is
fantastic.  If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it.   I
don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good
with high bars on a too-small frame.  I think they look nicer than the
big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though.  Plus I don't
like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail
riding.  As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming
you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability.  You have to
get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a
quill stem as well.  And the open face plate for bar changes is
wonderful, although used rarely.

My $.02

On 4/5/11, bfd  wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William  wrote:
>> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
>> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
>> mainstream.
>
> Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will
> sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on
> at least a couple of its bikes:
>
> Roadeo:
> http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roadeo.jpg
>
> Legolas (currently not offered):
> http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg
>
> And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use
> threadless.
>
> I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original
> "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his
> accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded
> headsets and quill stems:
>
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html
>
>>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
>> thinks are important.  1.125" threadless is flat out better for
>> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant.
>>
> I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1"
> threadless with a shim could be an option.  Further, how many people
> really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover,
> unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or
> removed. Finally, there are stems that rise.
>
> Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new
> frameset. Good Luck!
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Re: [RBW] bicycle camping on Catalina Island?

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Jerry Hersch on ibob list did it, or at least a day ride there.  Do
you have his email?

On 4/5/11, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations or
> logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful
> resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of hits --
> not sure where to begin.
>
> I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend getaway from
> LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise. Where to
> begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Aaron
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

[cyclotourist]

I've got three kids, so have done my part to perpetuate the species...
it's all extranious bits now I suppose.

On 4/5/11, rcnute  wrote:
> Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same
> sentence...
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William  wrote:
>> I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end
>> format is.  Both threaded and threadless work and work well.  bfd's
>> assertion was that more Soma San Marcos framesets would be sold if it
>> were spec'd with a 1" threadless fork, because threadless is
>> mainstream even though 1" threadless is not mainstream.  I don't think
>> there are many potential buyers who would tell you that 1" threadless
>> is their first choice.  The point that bfd didn't make was that from a
>> business standpoint, if I was Merry Sales, and if I wanted to keep the
>> price as low as possible, I'd seriously consider offering only one
>> fork for all sizes and drop the price of the frameset.  That, I think,
>> would generate more sales, and could only be done with...wait for
>> it...threadless.  There's already a precedent for one fork rake across
>> lots of sizes for the budget Rivendell frames.  If Soma wanted to
>> offer the San Marcos at a lower price, and wanted to get there with a
>> threadless fork, then I could definitely believe that might yield more
>> sales.  I doubt there are a lot of buyers who say "this frameset right
>> here is perfect for me, but I don't like the headset type so I won't
>> buy it".  They'll disqualify on price, weight, fit, even color, but
>> headset?  I don't think so.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> FWIW, I've had all the headset formats and all of them worked fine,
>> including 1-1/4" threaded and 1" threadless.  When it comes down to
>> looks and how nervous you are about crotchal safety, I'd say we're
>> into the unimportant differentiators.
>>
>> On Apr 5, 3:34 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>
>> > I've come to appreciate threadless.  The ease of setting them is
>> > fantastic.  If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it.   I
>> > don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good
>> > with high bars on a too-small frame.  I think they look nicer than the
>> > big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though.  Plus I don't
>> > like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail
>> > riding.  As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming
>> > you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability.  You have to
>> > get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a
>> > quill stem as well.  And the open face plate for bar changes is
>> > wonderful, although used rarely.
>>
>> > My $.02
>>
>> > On 4/5/11, bfd  wrote:
>>
>> > > On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William  wrote:
>> > >> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
>> > >> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
>> > >> mainstream.
>>
>> > > Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will
>> > > sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on
>> > > at least a couple of its bikes:
>>
>> > > Roadeo:
>> > >http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3108/mark_s_roade...
>>
>> > > Legolas (currently not offered):
>> > >http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg
>>
>> > > And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use
>> > > threadless.
>>
>> > > I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original
>> > > "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his
>> > > accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded
>> > > headsets and quill stems:
>>
>> > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html
>>
>> > >>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
>> > >> thinks are important.  1.125" threadless is flat out better for
>> > >> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant.
>>
>> > > I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1"
>> > > threadless with a shim could be an option.  Fu

Re: [RBW] Re: bicycle camping on Catalina Island?

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On 4/6/11, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
> I recall that there was a paved switchback climb out of Avalon, then graded
> fire roads and under-maintained pavement stretches.  Nothing that would
> require suspension.
>

A perfect ride!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: bicycle camping on Catalina Island?

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On 4/6/11, James Warren  wrote:
> Yes.
> Also, very challenging, climbingwise, I've heard.
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/11, CycloFiend  wrote:
>>>
>>> I recall that there was a paved switchback climb out of Avalon, then
>>> graded
>>> fire roads and under-maintained pavement stretches.  Nothing that would
>>> require suspension.
>>>
>>
>> A perfect ride!!!
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Re: [RBW] Catalina Island (What constitutes a mountain bike?)

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It's kinda' cool given the problems people have with trail
access/closures (looking at you PDX) that there are places that won't
let you in if you bike isn't burly enough!

Dual-squish 100mm travel downhillers in full armor only, please.

On 4/6/11, James Warren  wrote:
>
> I do know two people who have gone there and said that the permit is
> strictly enforced. I think they said that full sus wasn't specifically
> mentioned, but the permit officer did require a "mountain bike". It would be
> worth seeing what they mean by that:
>
> They must mean knobby tires.
>
> I wonder if they would discount drop bars, even if the bike they were on had
> 2" Atlantis-style tires. That's the big IF for me.
>
> I'm pretty certain that they would not approve a permit for a rough-rider
> style underbiker bike intending to go off-road with Jack Browns, for
> example.
>
> If I do it someday, I'll try to get away with my 700x40 knobby Hillborne
> with Bullmoose bars. I'm guessing it would satisfy their "mountain bike"
> criteria, but I'll attempt to check with someone by phone or e-mail first.
> Maybe a good way to do it would be to get in e-mail contact with the permit
> official and send a picture of the bike. I'm guessing that it's fairly
> common for people to have digital photos of their bikes. :  )
>
> -Jim W.
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Matthew wrote:
>
>> I have been under the (mistaken?) impression that the permitting
>> required mountain bikes (specifically, shocks) and that they wouldn't
>> let me on the roads or give me a permit with a my hillborne. Untrue?
>>
>> On Apr 5, 3:08 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
>>> Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations or
>>> logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful
>>> resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of hits
>>> --
>>> not sure where to begin.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend getaway
>>> from
>>> LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise. Where
>>> to
>>> begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Aaron
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Re: [RBW] Re: Catalina Island (What constitutes a mountain bike?)

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Why back in my day, we used to tie an onion to our belt, because that
was the style then...

On 4/6/11, Michael_S  wrote:
> sorry David but 100mm travel Mountain bikes are for XC racing.
> Downhill bikes have more like 8 inches (200mm) of travel.
>
> I'm sure your rigid KM would be fine for those rough trails over
> there.
>
> ~Mike
>
> On Apr 6, 1:02 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> It's kinda' cool given the problems people have with trail
>> access/closures (looking at you PDX) that there are places that won't
>> let you in if you bike isn't burly enough!
>>
>> Dual-squish 100mm travel downhillers in full armor only, please.
>>
>> On 4/6/11, James Warren  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I do know two people who have gone there and said that the permit is
>> > strictly enforced. I think they said that full sus wasn't specifically
>> > mentioned, but the permit officer did require a "mountain bike". It
>> > would be
>> > worth seeing what they mean by that:
>>
>> > They must mean knobby tires.
>>
>> > I wonder if they would discount drop bars, even if the bike they were on
>> > had
>> > 2" Atlantis-style tires. That's the big IF for me.
>>
>> > I'm pretty certain that they would not approve a permit for a
>> > rough-rider
>> > style underbiker bike intending to go off-road with Jack Browns, for
>> > example.
>>
>> > If I do it someday, I'll try to get away with my 700x40 knobby Hillborne
>> > with Bullmoose bars. I'm guessing it would satisfy their "mountain bike"
>> > criteria, but I'll attempt to check with someone by phone or e-mail
>> > first.
>> > Maybe a good way to do it would be to get in e-mail contact with the
>> > permit
>> > official and send a picture of the bike. I'm guessing that it's fairly
>> > common for people to have digital photos of their bikes. :  )
>>
>> > -Jim W.
>>
>> > On Apr 6, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Matthew wrote:
>>
>> >> I have been under the (mistaken?) impression that the permitting
>> >> required mountain bikes (specifically, shocks) and that they wouldn't
>> >> let me on the roads or give me a permit with a my hillborne. Untrue?
>>
>> >> On Apr 5, 3:08 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
>> >>> Has anyone done it? Would you recommend it? Any special considerations
>> >>> or
>> >>> logistical things to take into account? Can anyone point me to useful
>> >>> resources or websites? A simple Google search produced hundreds of
>> >>> hits
>> >>> --
>> >>> not sure where to begin.
>>
>> >>> I'm thinking bike camping on Catalina might make a nice weekend
>> >>> getaway
>> >>> from
>> >>> LA, but I've never done any bike camping, S240-style or otherwise.
>> >>> Where
>> >>> to
>> >>> begin? Recommendations for the neophyte welcome.
>>
>> >>> Thanks in advance,
>> >>> Aaron
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas

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10K anniversary coming up soon!

On 4/7/11, Lynne Fitz  wrote:
> Miles on the Bleriot...  Looking... 9614.  :-)
>
> On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, Ray Shine  wrote:
>> Ah, yes. The Bleriot…how many miles on it now?
>>
>> 
>> From: Lynne Fitz 
>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 6:46 PM
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
>>
>> I'm here, but mostly lurk.  I've got a well-used
>> Bleriot:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/1509884296/in/set-721576023051...
>> Lesli's Pencil and my
>> Bleriot:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4511206713/in/set-721576238325...
>> and from the Portland Riv
>> Ride:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4676917808/in/set-721576240946...
>>
>> It is used for commuting and urban errands, as it has the rear rack.
>> A venerable Jim Blackburn rear rack :-)
>>
>> Lynne F
>>
>> ps.  I'm the serious cyclist in the family.
>>
>> On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson  wrote:
>>
>> > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among
>> > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a
>> > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color
>> > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other
>> > Rivendell chicas.
>>
>> > --
>> > -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> > My hovercraft is full of eels
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Re: [RBW] New bicycling shoes from Timberland

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Their shoes plane.

On 4/8/11, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Bruce Baker wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Tim McNamara 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Bruce Baker wrote:
>>
>> > Timberland has three styles of bicycling shoes for this spring.  Check
>> > out this url.
>> > http://shop.timberland.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=11322919
>> >
>> > I just bought a pair of the Mens Eartkeepers City Biking Leather Oxford.
>> >  Should get them today.
>>
>> "Pedal Flex" is not a name calculated to appeal to many cyclists...
>>
>> Did you watch the video.  They flex while walking but remain stiff when
>> flexed in the opposite direction
>
> Nope.  The simple point being that if they want to market their product to
> cyclists, "Pedal Flex" is not an instantly appealing name.  Their marketing
> department may not understand their target market very well, "flex" commonly
> being considered a bad thing by the majority of serious cyclists.  If people
> have to watch a video to understand what the name means, the name was not
> well chosen.  This is marketing 101 stuff.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Yves Gomez

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Love riding my wife's Glorius.  I've always been on the lookout for a
60cm Wilbury!

On 4/11/11, EricP  wrote:
> I have not with the Yves, but have been very tempted.  Like others,
> have too many bikes and not enough room.
>
> Have ridden a Buena Vista.  That's a tolerably good bike.  In my test
> ride, didn't find any problems with the bike.  The one I rode was too
> small for me.  Otherwise, it was fine.  Do believe you can run either
> 700C or 650B with it depending on brakes used.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Apr 11, 5:44 pm, SamuelJames  wrote:
>> Any men ride one?  Just curious cause I would love one but my fragile
>> male ego says no.  does anybody have the Soma Buena Vista?  How do you
>> like that?  Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pre-Ebay Sale 54cm Canti Saluki F/F schoolbus yellow. $1k

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If only a 62cm...

On 4/11/11, rcnute  wrote:
> I briefly owned this bike in frame form and never would have sold it
> had it been a 56 (this was before I knew about "Riv sizing").  It is
> really gorgeous.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 11, 12:29 pm, JL  wrote:
>> I have an early model Saluki (frame #48) 54cm for sale with an Ultegra
>> headset/ berthoud fenders.  Boeshield since day one.  This frame has
>> the usual paint loss at the dropouts, etc.  Paint and decals 9.5/10
>>
>> Wheelset with hetres possible add on.
>>
>> $1000 local to SF bay area
>>
>> or $1000 plus shipping if I have to box it up.
>>
>> Ask any questions you have ask offlist.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3fapq2y
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [RBW] photos of (almost) new Betty, first ever old Saluki

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Love 'em both!  Great colors, and the front basket is perfect!

On 4/11/11, MobileBill  wrote:
> I told Jay and Keven we'd send photos along of the new Betty they both
> worked with us on. Here's the little url (holler if I pasted it
> wrong):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3vphhf6
>
>  Bike has got a cool color, lime gold metallic, just this side of
> weird. We've decided we really like it. Bike came in late February.
> Have had a hard time getting my wife to sit still on it long enough to
> take a photo _ in four weeks she was transformed from a both-feet-on-
> the-ground newbie to a 20-mile-a-day fanatic. I think she takes it out
> so much just because she knows she's going to turn heads when she
> rides by on it. It's the most talked about mixte in Mobile.
>  Color's the most unusual element, but it was one of the first
> Rivs to use the new cream SKS fenders, and the match is sweet, as
> you'll see. Has a Keven double up front and 8 speed on the back (a
> great choice for this bike, I think), rapid rise rear derailleur, and
> the ultra cheap SunRace shifters with the fake indexing, which work
> about as well as any friction shifter I've used. Soma New Xpress 38mm
> on Velocity. Albatross and cork.
>  Bonus photos of my 6,000-mile-old Saluki, which I never managed
> to post before. An interesting custom color, kind of burnt orange
> persimmony, mutable in the changing light. It's become my workhorse,
> my everyday commuter, my long miles bike. And photos of the largest
> assemblage of Rivendells ever recorded in Mobile, beside the old Iron
> Deer (it is what it is) and beneath the spooky oaks of Old Mobile.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickr Legola group

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I believe the Legolas is one of the truly thing-gauge Rivendell
models.  Even the Roadeo isn't thin throughout all size range.  I have
no facts to back this up, just conjecture of course.  But that makes
it really unique.  Yeah, wish I had one, too...

On 4/12/11, Michael_S  wrote:
> I have a green Legolas as my desktop some day my dream will come
> true... someday please.
> I just may have to have canti posts put on the Ram to fulfill my
> dream.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/2877818929/in/gallery-37347002@N05-72157624932539130/
>
> ~Mike
>
>
>
> On Apr 12, 3:22 pm, Mojo  wrote:
>> > I would think they
>> > could sell boat loads of these, especially if they threw a few eyelets
>> > on
>>
>> I think it is written in the sacred Rivendell text that all their
>> bikes will have eyelets. Legolai have a single set front and rear. I
>> am really enjoying mine, and don't get why more people haven't stood
>> in line for a canti-bigclearance-Roadeo. I do wish the Legolas was set
>> up with threaded bridges for fenders (and lower trail, but I don't
>> want to bring up that issue in civilized company).
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flickr Legola group

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Er, "thin-gauge" would be more accurate.

Thing 1 and Thing 2 could not come and play on this rainy wet day.

On 4/12/11, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I believe the Legolas is one of the truly thing-gauge Rivendell
> models.  Even the Roadeo isn't thin throughout all size range.  I have
> no facts to back this up, just conjecture of course.  But that makes
> it really unique.  Yeah, wish I had one, too...
>
> On 4/12/11, Michael_S  wrote:
>> I have a green Legolas as my desktop some day my dream will come
>> true... someday please.
>> I just may have to have canti posts put on the Ram to fulfill my
>> dream.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/2877818929/in/gallery-37347002@N05-72157624932539130/
>>
>> ~Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 3:22 pm, Mojo  wrote:
>>> > I would think they
>>> > could sell boat loads of these, especially if they threw a few eyelets
>>> > on
>>>
>>> I think it is written in the sacred Rivendell text that all their
>>> bikes will have eyelets. Legolai have a single set front and rear. I
>>> am really enjoying mine, and don't get why more people haven't stood
>>> in line for a canti-bigclearance-Roadeo. I do wish the Legolas was set
>>> up with threaded bridges for fenders (and lower trail, but I don't
>>> want to bring up that issue in civilized company).
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Re: [RBW] Re: Blacksheep Adventure Bike for Sale

[cyclotourist]

You just don't know... super nice bike.  Do it all in Ti w/ S&S...

On 4/16/11, Michael_S  wrote:
> that Blacksheep is such a nice looking bike. I really like the bend in
> the fork which is not common for Ti forks.
> It's too tall for me but it will make a nice addition to someones bike
> collection.
>
> ~Mike
>
> On Apr 15, 5:04 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
>> Up for sale is my titanium Blacksheep monstercross/MTB/touring do-it-all
>> adventure bike with S&S couplers. Geometry (posted below) is not far off
>> from a Rivendell Atlantis. This bike was made to serve as a sort of Swiss
>> Army knife, and works well in a number of different configurations. Since
>> I
>> had it built back in 2007, I¹ve had it set up as a Rohloff-equipped drop
>> bar
>> monster cross type bike, a single speed cross bike, a road touring and
>> commuting bike, and an H-bar equipped, 29er tired mountain bike.
>>
>> I am looking to sell the frame/fork/ and Chris King headset. However, if
>> you
>> are interested in a complete bike, I could possibly sell it in its current
>> H-bar setup, or possibly a drop bar setup with Nitto Noodle bars, v-brake
>> drop bar levers, and bar cons.
>>
>> If you bought the frame and fork new from Blacksheep today, it would cost
>> an
>> eyewatering $4500. The bike has been ridden, has the usual cable rub, and
>> has some quirks (see below).  I¹m asking $1800 for the frame/fork/headset,
>> which its just over 1/3 of what it would cost new. I could throw in a used
>> S&S hard case ($400 new), for an even $2000.
>>
>> Since this is Ti, you can return the finish to new with a little scotch
>> brite and a lot of elbow grease, but it looks just fine as it is.
>>
>> Geometry:
>>
>> Effective TT: 59.5 (C-C)
>> Seattube: 56 (c-c) (toptube upslope is around 6 degrees)
>> STA & HTA: 72
>> BB Drop: 75
>> Fork rake: 5.2
>> Axle-crown: 42.5
>> Headtube: 18
>> Chainstays: 44.5 (about middle of the sliders, so some room in either
>> direction)
>> Standover at mid toptube with 700x38s: 86.5
>>
>> Things to note (important!)
>>
>> ­The bike will accept a Nanoraptor 29er tire, though the clearance in
>> front
>> is not very big when set up this way, and would not be ideal if you want
>> to
>> ride it in a muddy area with these tires. I¹ve done lots of mixed surface
>> miles on Nanos here in southern california, and they work great.
>> ­There is a small dimple in the Toptube from where the TSA goons opened
>> the
>> S&S case and shut it again improperly. It¹s purely cosmetic and I¹ve
>> ridden
>> the bike for 3 years since this incident with nary a problem. Still, it¹s
>> there, as you can see in the pics below.
>> ­Two years ago, I sent the bike back to James at Blacksheep and had him
>> remove and reattach the rear sliders. He beefed up the welds and moved the
>> rackmounts back to make more pannier heel clearance. I did this because
>> there was a 2mm hairline crack on one of the welds. The new sliders have
>> been reattached with extra beefy welds and James assures me its stronger
>> than it ever was. I¹ve ridden it over hill and dale with nary a problem
>> since.
>> ­With some sets of brakes, you need to use the top position of the canti
>> studs up front to get strong spring tension. Brakes work great‹just
>> something to note if you buy it and are trying to set up your brakes.
>> ­You¹ll want to replace the seatclamp as this one is getting a bit
>> stripped
>> out.
>>
>> Lots of pics on my
>> blog:http://paleovelo.com/2011/04/15/blacksheep-adventure-bike-for-sale
>>
>> And even more on
>> Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157625879737275/
>>
>> Please reply directly to with any questions or if you are otherwise
>> interested:  paleo.v...@gmail.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dustin Sharp
>> San Diego, Calif.
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Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

[cyclotourist]

Nailed it.

On 4/17/11, William  wrote:
> bfd
>
> I think you are taking your point a little far.  Grant/Rivendell is
> not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards
> the mainstream racing bike customer.  Merry Sales and Soma aren't even
> 'marketing' the San Marcos, and it's their bike.  Grant 'specifically'
> said that those folks who did buy a $6000 road bike should have bought
> a bike like the San Marcos.  Somebody with as much experience reading
> Grant's postings as you do know what Grant means by that.  He means
> that folks who buy plastic 16lb bikes should be buying 20lb steel
> bikes.  That's a lot different than saying "Hey, you bike shoppers!
> After you test ride that Cervelo and that Madone, come check out this
> undertube!  That would be ridiculous, but that's not what Grant said,
> that's what you said.
>
> Merry Sales paid Grant for a design.  Grant supplied one.  None of the
> prototype photos have the second TT, so I suspect Merry Sales/Soma
> made the decision to add it.  There's no way Grant called Merry Sales
> and said "I've done the calculations and the bigger two sizes MUST
> have a 2TT!"  I'd bet a dollar that it's a fashion-driven decision,
> and the tiny production run makes it sound like a loss-leader, which
> bums me out on several levels besides the lousy idea of a 2TT on a
> road bike.
>
> good luck!
>
> Me, I love the 2TT on my parallel Bombadil, and I'm glad my 56cm
> Hillborne doesn't have one.
>
> On Apr 17, 9:53 am, bfd  wrote:
>> On Apr 17, 9:09 am, newenglandbike  wrote:> I
>> guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug
>> > the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but
>> > i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it
>> > probably works better on a mountain/all-purpose bike.   I was also
>> > drawn to the plain-gauge tubing.   I still like the bombadil's
>> > concept, even though now it is changed, but the original parallel
>> > second tube is hard to beat in my book.
>>
>> I agree in part. There are many, like yourself, who like the double
>> top tube look. That's great and with only 15 framesets per size, it
>> should easily sell. However, Grant is not marketing to you or those
>> who like it. Instead, he specifically said the frame is aimed at "bike
>> guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames."  That's ridiculous. People in the
>> market for $6K carbon bikes are not looking at either 650b or double
>> top tubes. The only way either of those things get popular with the
>> $6K carbon crowd is if someone in the Tour de Frances wins on one. Now
>> THAT will get people's attention and sell these kind of bikes. Of
>> course, its not going to happen
>>
>> > FWIW, I was in Harris Cyclery the yesterday, and they have a 58cm
>> > Hunqapillar built-up in the show room.It has the gray/red paint
>> > job.   All I can say is, pictures don't do that bike justice.
>>
>> I haven't seen one of those yet and I live in San Francisco! I'm sure
>> there's a few around as I do see alot of Riv bikes. Good Luck!
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Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

[cyclotourist]

And for me, I lurv the double TT on the Bombadil and larger Hilsens,
but don't like the diagnatube of the Hunqapillar.  But either on a
"road" bike seem overkill.  Luckily we can vote with our wallets and
get a Roadeo, or a Hilsen or an Atlantis :-)

On 4/17/11, Bruce  wrote:
> OTOH, I love the look of the diagatube and would ride it on a road bike any
> day.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>From: Philip Williamson 
>>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:17 PM
>>Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update
>>
>>I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especially on a bike
>>identified as "road-only."
>>
>>Philip
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

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Hey there Steve, I sincerely hope your Bleriot is all you hoped for!
My ex-Bleriot was one of my favorite bikes.  I shouldn't have sold it,
but a fancy new Rivendell caught my eye... or so the story goes.  I
think Bleriots were the best deal in Rivendell bikes for a long time.
Prior to that it was the Romulus.  Great that you got one.  It should
be the perfect compliment to a Ti "go-fast" bike.  Hopefully you can
keep both, horses for courses and all that.

On 4/17/11, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing the story, Steve, and welcome to the bunch. As far as
> your feelings about the graphisc well, I think everyone on the list is
> known to have opinions.  The caveat here is to respect others' points of
> view as well.
>
> Please feel free to link to photos* so we can enjoy it visually as well.
>
> - Jim
>
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[RBW] IRD Defiant cranksets

[cyclotourist]

I just tripped across these cranks on the interwebs, and don't know
much about them.  They sure look beautiful though!  Cold forged,
110/74bcd, square taper... I'm not seeing any downside, although they
may not work with widely spaced chain stays.  No affilition, etc, just
passing it on.  They have a compact double as well!

http://store.interlocracing.com/irddetotrcr.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

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FYI, 26 x 1.XX tubes fit really good, so you're not dependent on 650b
marked tubes.  I can't remember if it's the 1.5 or 1.75 tubes, but on
or the other was no problem fitting after I broke the valve stem as
described by Steve.


On 4/18/11, Ray Shine  wrote:
(snip)
> tire, thankfully).  By the way, I always carry two 650B spare tubes. Lots of
> bike shops don't carry them.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

[cyclotourist]

IIRC, the actual 650b labeled tubes also list a 26" tire size
compatability on them.  Similar to how 700C & 27" do.  So yeah, no
worries for tubes when you're stranded out in Western Mongolia :-)

On 4/18/11, Ray Shine  wrote:
> Yeah, I know, and that's a good point. In fact, the tube I used Saturday was
> a 26" that I purchased from Valencia Cyclery. It fit no problem. Still, I
> ordered about a half dozen from RBW when I first bought the bike.
>
>
>
> ____
> From: cyclotourist 
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts
>
> FYI, 26 x 1.XX tubes fit really good, so you're not dependent on 650b
> marked tubes.  I can't remember if it's the 1.5 or 1.75 tubes, but on
> or the other was no problem fitting after I broke the valve stem as
> described by Steve.
>
>
> On 4/18/11, Ray Shine  wrote:
> (snip)
>> tire, thankfully).  By the way, I always carry two 650B spare tubes. Lots
>> of
>> bike shops don't carry them.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] tubes for 700x50

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I think the tubes I use are regular weight 35-38mm 700c tubes in my 2" 700c
(29er) tires.  These tubes weigh a bit less than regular 29er tubes, and I
like saving that little bit of weight off of the huge amount of mass that's
already there.  Mentally makes me faster.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Rene Sterental  wrote:

> I use the Schwalbe 19A recommended tubes for the 50 - 60mm tires and they
> hold air like forever... I get them at Wallingford Bikes,
> http://www.wallbike.com/schwalbe/tubes/tube-no-19a-xl.
>
> They are a bit pricier but they're a bit lighter and they last forever.
> Otherwise I believe you can get away with the 17 as they have it sized for
> the 45mm tires but they can easily be stretched for the 50mm tires as well.
>
> I haven't had a tube failure or a puncture yet (knock on wood!) with these
> tubes and my Marathon Supremes or the Big Apples.
>
> René
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rockapillar....Bombalized....Hunqa Hopper?

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Awesome indeed!

I'm partial to Hunqahopper!

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> Sweet!  Awesome!   Enjoy that bike!
>
>
>
> On Apr 21, 8:42 pm, jinxed  wrote:
> > I work for a shop.
> >
> > We sell Trek, Cannondale, BH...lots of carbon. Lots of squishy bikes.
> >
> > Being on the A.H.H I am the black sheep. Everyone thinks I'm loony. I
> > have not purchased anything from our shop besides tubes and tires for
> > probably 5 years. Nothin we sell really get my blood going, except...
> >
> > One day a long time ago, little ol lady brings in a couple bikes that
> > "We purchased over 20 years ago and hung in the garage." She didnt
> > want them, and wanted something else. We took them in trade, hooked
> > her up on a new bike, and the bikes went on display in our store. One
> > was her small Centurion road bike, full DA. Minty mint condition. The
> > other was (assuming) her husbands 85? Rock Hopper. Again...minty mint.
> > Original tires even. I have drooled over the bike since, but felt a
> > strange "on the fence" pang about it. On one hand, I was happy to see
> > it displayed proudly and preserved instead of rusting away in a
> > backyard. On the other it irritated me that it was not be used.
> >
> > I have been quite vocal over the years that if it was ever taken off
> > display to give me opportunity to buy it.
> >
> > Today was that day. And the owner told me to just take it home!
> >
> > I believe it's an 85 but need to research some more. It was hung in
> > our rafters, so it was tough to tell what exactly it had on it till it
> > came down today. Derailleurs are Shimano Deer Head, Mostly Shimano
> > components: Canti's and levers, Unishift thumb shifters, hubs and
> > pedals, Avocet Saddle, Specialized cranks, Bullmoose is not labeled,
> > but I believe Nitto was doing some stuff for the big S.
> >
> > Anyway, I removed the dried out tires and threw on some fat IRC Duro
> > Metro slicks for the time being. I plan to pick up some skinwall MTB
> > tires, add a Brooks B-17, a big saddle bag, and hit the dirt!!
> >
> > Here is a quick phone picture:
> >
> > http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5104/5641499223_d5a5004395_b.jpg
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Re: [RBW] AHH thoughts

[cyclotourist]

I would presume Bruce is referring to hwat we see in the third pic down:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/2345290322.html

Nice AHH for sale BTW!



On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Rex Kerr  wrote:

> What do you mean by tube dimpling?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Bruce  wrote:
>
>> A while after looking at some Flickr pics of an AHH frame posted here for
>> sale, a little light in my head went on. Another poster had commented on the
>> nice dropouts this Waterford built frame featured, but what caught my
>> subliminal notice was the tube dimpling that was done to provide clearance.
>> It is different from the Toyo built Saluki and Ram I ride, both of which
>> have a change of cross section at the "bend" points, wider "hips" if you
>> will, which decreases the through thickness of the tubes and allows space
>> needed. I prefer the shaped Toyo look to the Waterford style. The Waterford
>> rear dropouts though are very nice. My friend Joe has them also on his
>> Waterford built Hillborne.
>>
>> Tailwinds
>>
>> Bruce
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Re: [RBW] Hilsen Saturday, Quickbeam Sunday

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A busy weekend for you!

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, CycloFiend wrote:

> Just some photos -
>
> Saturday -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626439406809/
>
> Today -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626445832861/
>
> Hope all's y'alls got some miles or something equally enjoyable.
>
> - J
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Re: [RBW] My new Custom Rivendell Mixte

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Those custom Rivendells of any type just can't be beat!  And your mixte is
the best of the best!!!

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:58 PM, SMP  wrote:

> Here are some photos...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/sets/72157626345789636/
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> Enjoy!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crappy Pasela Sidewalls

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In my experience w/ Paselas over the last 15 years or so, they have been the
best tires I can find (light, roll great, cheap), but are prone to sidewall
problems.  They are much lighter and livelier than Marathons (total dogs,
YMMV) and when I can get them on sale for $15 each, I don't mind the
longevity problem.  I've never (knock, knock) had a catastrophic failure.
It's more a problem of the sidewalls getting brittle and easily damaged.  I
ride through plenty of rock gardens and gravel with them BTW.  Just keep an
eye out for splits and you'll be fine.  I seal mine up with Brikenstock
Corklife latex when I see one.  This happens long before the tread gets worn
down.  Col de la Vies have this problem to a lesser degree.  Ruffy Tuffies
have been the worst for me.   The treads consistently crack and fall apart
on me, although the sidewalls remain good.



On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:50 PM, scott  wrote:

> "Marathon, 32-622 / 28 x 1.25 / 700 x 32c 21oz $ 37.00"
> Those are the ones.
>
> Steve: I some folks have never had issues, others have sworn them off
> from bad experiences. I think location, time of year, maybe weight all
> might be factors, but I stopped using them after two sidewall failures
> in a week (two separate tires). I've never had any problems with
> Schwalbe tires, so that is my pony from now on.
>
> On May 1, 5:40 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 15:12 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote:
> > > I have had the same sidewall experience as you with the Pasela, but
> > > have been very happy with other Panaracer tires, like the Fire XC Pro
> >
> > I have 32mm Paselas that are now in their 3rd year, having seen three
> > winters on my VO Randonneur, and their sidewalls are fine.
> >
> > I used Paselas for years on my Bruce Gordon, and never had a sidewall
> > issue.
> >
> > I have been using Panaracer Col de la Vie tires since 2005, and have
> > never had a sidewall issue.
> >
> > I also have been using Panaracer-made Grand Bois tires since 2008 and
> > have never had a sidewall issue.
> >
> > And I've used Rolly Poly and Ruffy Tuffy tires since 2002 and again,
> > never had a sidewall issue.
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Re: [RBW] Burnsville Metric

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Leslie, this sounds like a fantastic ride.  Metrics are my favorite length
rides (and pretty close to my maximum as well!).  Glad it worked out so well
for the two of you!

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> Yesterday was the 17th riding of the Burnsville Metric (http://
> www.burnsvillemetric.com/).  I'd not ridden it before; I wanted to
> last year, but, didn't have enough miles under my belt to attempt.   I
> decided to give it a go this year, though.
>
> Burnsville is a small town in western North Carolina, about 25 miles
> north of Asheville, and is 45 miles south of me here in Kingsport,
> Tennessee.  As my dad's mom was from a small community seven miles
> northwest of there (Bee Log), and my mother-in-law's father was from
> another small community 10 miles to the northeast (Bakersville), that
> was part of the attraction of wanting to make this ride.  (I should
> mention, these distances are as the crow flies... to drive it,
> sometimes you have to double your distances in our terrain here).
>
> Although this ride is in the mountains, it's probably about as flat as
> you could find in the region.  The ride left Burnsville heading west
> on 19E, then turned north, going up the Cane River to its confluence
> with the Toe River, where they form the Nolichucky River. There, the
> course turns eastward and runs up the Toe River, to Bakersville.
> There, it turns south until it hits 19E on the east side of
> Burnsville, then turns west to return to town.
>
> Weather was unbeatable.  Beautiful day.  Cool in the morning to start
> out, and though it warmed up it didn't get hot.   My son and I got up
> early and stopped for a quick bite enroute, before hitting the road.
> On the interstate, we passed several other vehicles carrying bikes,
> which we guessed were also headed that way.  Arriving before 8am that
> morning, we registered, then started warming up, riding around the
> town square where the ride begins.  In several of the parking lots
> around the square, were numerous other bikers, all checking tires,
> pinning on numbers, talking with friends.  We found the vehicle we'd
> encountered on the highway, met two really nice gentlemen, also from
> the Kingsport area (Bob and Larry).  We continued riding around,
> eyeing other bikes, checking out various biking jerseys, chatting with
> several of the locals who were assisting with parking and directions.
> I do believe, not only was I on the only Rivendell there (only one we
> saw), I was also the only bike present that was fendered.  My son's
> Motobecane is an aluminum-framed crossbike; I know I spotted one other
> bike that was steel (perhaps an older Raleigh); but every other bike I
> saw was carbon.   The ride started prompt at 9am.
>
> The first thing I noticed when everyone started moving, was the
> sound.   Waves of clicks after clicks.  Alex and I started chuckling,
> as we may also have been some of the very few who were riding free,
> also (I did spot one person with toe straps as we started).   The
> quickest riders started towards the front, then mid-pack riders, and
> we were near the back of them, perhaps near the front of the 3rd-tier
> riders (was interesting, that the packet had an instruction sheet
> explaining how to arrange yourselves for the start as such).  Have to
> admit, it was a very cool site seeing a couple hundred bikes taking
> off down the hill from the square, leading us back out to the
> highway.
>
> The ride started well.  The state police had held traffic on the
> highway as the ride started, so we could all get those first few miles
> out of the way, before reaching the turn towards the north.  At that
> point, the car traffic became much lighter.  This was the first time
> my son and I have ever ridden with a larger group of people (not that
> we were with a club, the way many clubs were there, but, that we were
> riding with any other riders other than family).   We noticed how the
> distance segregates people out... that we'd reach a hill-climb, and
> some could pound ahead, others would drift back... as distance grew,
> some faded, while all the time, others from somewhere behind would fly
> by and continue on.  We were doing well, as well as I could have
> hoped, was feeling good.  We rolled through the small communities of
> Higgins, Bee Log, Ramseytown. When we reached the first aid-station at
> mile 20 at Sioux, noticed how crowded it was and not feeling
> particularly tired or thirsty yet, continued on, passing it by.  At
> this point, we started noticing that we weren't around as many riders;
> we were mostly on our own, that there were fewer pelotons that would
> catch and pass us. We passed the community of Green Mountain, the
> midpoint, in under two hours.  But shortly after that
>
> Alex had remarked at some point along the way, how easy this was.  I
> would tell him to not worry, that he'll have to earn this easy ride in
> a little while.  There was a turn where you had to climb o

Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis

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The eight mile commute would be great w/ A-bars, even with hills, but 50
mile club rides wouldn't be so fun with them.  M-bars sort of split the
difference, which is nice.  Maybe start with those, and see which end of the
bike use spectrum leaves you wanting more, then commit to one or the other
(presuming you don't find the M's just right).

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Bruce  wrote:

> I did a 700-mile tour with a retrofitted Trek 620 that had Albatross
> bars. I taped the curves and put interrupter brake levers there. I
> liked it pretty well. The stem was a little long, so it was a bit too
> upright when I rode on the ends, but mostly I liked it.
>
> On May 2, 4:06 pm, johnb  wrote:
> > So I pulled the trigger on Friday and purchased a new Atlantis. In my
> > extended conversations with Keven and Vince @ Rivbike, they were
> > encouraging me to think beyond Noodle bars and specifically to the
> > Albatross bar. I plan to use this bike for commuting to work on very
> > hilly terrain @ 8 miles each way, local bike rides of about 50 miles
> > on the weekend, supported and self-supported touring. I would truly
> > like for this bike to be a jack of all trades. I have an Albatross on
> > a QB that I ride to the store and like it quite a bit and I think it
> > would be great for commuting but am concerned with the longer rides
> > with this bar. Any experience with this set up? Anyone try to use two
> > different bars with quick connects for the cables (I saw one of these
> > on cyclofiend site and thought it was a brilliant idea)?
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Re: [RBW] Lighter Wheel Set Question

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+1 for adding some spacers.  That's the best bet, although as mentioned,
re-dishing is required.   I went the extra step and swapped in a longer axle
at the time.  Sure, not necessary, but I needed a project...

Here's Mr. S. Brown's take on it:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html


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>
> > I would like to ride a lighter wheels/tires set on my A. Homer Hilsen
> > at times when just riding paved roads.
> >
> > I have a pair of Mavic open pro wheels from another bike with road
> > bike hub spacing (130). My A. Homer Hilsen is (135). Since the Mavic
> > hub spacing is a bit narrower, my question is... will it hurt the
> > frame to squeeze the rear dropout to fit the smaller hub? I don't want
> > to stress the frame.
>
> It would probably be easier to just add a couple 2.5 mm spacers (or even
> 2's
> or 1.5's) to the axle.  That's what I did to use a stock DuraAce hub which
> I'd been using on a 130 mm spaced frame.
>
> I'm not sure I've ever heard a definitive word on whether the bending would
> be bad, but it's easy enough to fix.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

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Yeah, it's good to see you folks putting this together.  Sounds like a GREAT
outing!  The thing with weather forecasts, is even though "rain" is
predicted, you really can't tell if it's a downpour/thunderstorm or a light
spring drizzle.  Both are considered "rain" but a little rain isn't bad at
all.

Have a great time!

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is so cool. If I hadn't just bought a new camera tonight (and
> adapters for my Canon and Exakta lenses) I'd be REALLY REALLY jealous
> of all of you who can make it. As it is, I'm only slightly envious,
> and excited for my friends who'll go. Good for you, Bobby, for
> organizing it, and best of fun to all who go. +1 on CycloFiend's
> request for pictures.
>
> I wish I was a person who could plan something like this. "Hey, my dad
> has a barn! Let's all get together and put on a SHOW." Awesome. Maybe
> one day we can have a Willamette Valley meet-up and ride to Pacific
> City over the mountains.
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On May 5, 3:41 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
> > Jim, I will bring my camera, as I'm sure others will.
> >
> > No need to hem and haw, people... 20% chance of rain; 80% chance of NO
> > rain, and 100% chance of a GREAT RIDE.
> >
> > RIV RALLY EAST KICKS OFF TOMORROW EVENING!
> > IT'S NOT TOO LATE
> > GET YOUR BIKE
> > LEAVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO WALK THE DOG
> > GET IN YOUR CAR
> > GET TO THE RALLY
> >
> > A proposed gathering spot (watering hole) for Friday night is Timeless
> > Destination on Main Street in Wellsboro -
> http://www.timelessdestination.com/
> > I will be there... WOO HOO
> >
> > Peace,
> > Bobby B
> > cell: (908) 303-6887
> >
> > On May 5, 3:22 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> >
> > > As a quick reminder for all involved...
> >
> > > photos.
> > > photos.
> > > photos.
> > > photos.
> >
> > > ;^)
> >
> > > And for those hemming/hawing... Hey, it's rain!  Y'ain't gonna melt!
> That's
> > > what fenders are for!
> >
> > > Everyone have a grand time, eh?
> >
> > > - J
> >
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> > > "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome;
> the
> > > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of
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> >
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Re: [RBW] Low q factor, IT bands, and pedals

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Justin, I had severe ITB pain that took me off the bike for several months.
When the inflammation finally receded, I was limited to <10 miles for a
while before it cropped back up.

I still have it, and probably will forever, but it's greatly reduced to the
point I can pretty much ride as long as I want.  There will be little
twinges here and there, but not the debilitating pain that it was.

So, that said, my fit solution consisted of lowering my saddle ~5mm and
going exclusively to SPD pedals.  I canted my heel INBOARD as far as I could
(angled toe out), and pushed the cleats OUTBOARD as far as possible to widen
the Q factor.  Now the cleats don't have a ton of adjustability, so that
widening wasn't huge, *maybe *5mm or so each side, for a total 1cm wider Q.


I can't isolate the one change that benefited me the most, but I would put
my money on keeping my heel in with the SPDs.

I also bought a foam roller and did some stretches, but haven't done those
in a while.  I'm slowly raising my saddles back up a bit.

>From what I've researched and talked to people, there isn't a single fix.
It's a VERY individualized causation and therefore solution.  All my good
bookmarks have been deleted in the great crash of '11, but I'll try to dig
through some gmail and forward you what I can find.



On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Justin August wrote:

> I know this has been gone over and over but I'm looking for some first
> hand experiences. I've noticed in the past few weeks that my leg hurts
> substantially more after riding my Bleriot with Ritchey/Sugino triple
> and RMX sneaker pedals than on my fixed Motobecane with a Sugino RD
> crank and MKS sylvans. Given that folks seem to correlate higher q
> factor (to a point) with lowered IT band pain I'm looking for
> solutions.
>
> Can I overcome this replacement spindles for the MKS pedals or would I
> be advised to get a crankset with a higher q factor for the Bleriot to
> alleviate my pain?
>
> -Justin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?

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I had them on my Qucikbeam, and hated them.  More in principle than in
practice as I didn't take the wheel off much.  I love them on my Karate
Monkey though.  The forces of the disc brake and all the hits that bike gets
makes me glad to have an extra retention system.  It's a pain when putting
it on the roof racks, but the extra 10 sec. doesn't bother me.

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:12 AM, newenglandbike wrote:

> I have them on my Quickbeam, but not Bombadil. While I agree with
> the gist of the article in the RR, about the tragedy of fool-proofing
> everything in sight, the LLs on the QB do not really bother me.I
> rarely remove the front wheel to fix a flat (schwalbe!) and when I do,
> I'm not usually in a hurry. And even if I were, I can dial out the
> QR to clear the lips and then dial it back in pretty fast.Now, the
> articles on the Idaho Stop and helmet laws...  with thoose I agree
> down to the marrow.   :D
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
> On May 6, 8:43 pm, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> > :(
> >
> > Darn, I loved the convenience of a quick flip, and even more the ease of
> > reinstallation... Oh well, can't blame them.
> > On May 6, 2011 5:42 PM, "Marty"  wrote:
> >
> > > My new Waterford-built Bombadil has'm. I plan to use Pitlocks, so no
> > > big deal.
> >
> > > On May 6, 4:49 pm, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> > >> I just read the RR article about proper quick release usage.  It's
> > >> unfortunate to see that Grant was dragged into a lawsuit over an
> > improperly
> > >> installed wheel -- I really hope that he prevails!  While I understand
> > the
> > >> need for some sort of retention device on low end bikes (**), it seems
> > silly
> > >> to put them on high end bikes.
> >
> > >> This got me to thinking... I didn't look closely at the fork dropouts
> on
> > the
> > >> bikes when I was test riding:  Will I find lawyer lips on my Waterford
> > built
> > >> AHH that's due to arrive in the new few weeks?
> >
> > >> Looking on Flickr I found some pictures that seem to indicate that I
> > >> won't...
> >
> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxdogbikes/5061605656/
> >
> > >> I surely hope not, though I'd understand if it were to happen.
> >
> > >> (**) A few months ago, while driving, I saw a teenage boy riding a
> > >> department store bike with a floppy QR skewer on the sidewalk.  I
> pulled
> > off
> > >> into a parking lot and intercepted the rider to fix it for him,
> worried
> > that
> > >> he'd go off a curb and lose the front wheel.  I asked him if he knew
> how
> > it
> > >> worked, and he had no clue.
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Re: [RBW] A small step forward?

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Vindication!!!


On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Big Paulie  wrote:

>
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/bikes-and-tech/ask-nick-fat-tire-fun-and-mavic-race-support_171343
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne for the hills?

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Whoo-hoo, when's delivery???

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:42 AM, TSW  wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies!  I was at Riv yesterday and asked them for
> a steep hill or two to climb.  Tho' I'm just on the other side of the
> Culture-stop tunnel :-) I'm not terribly familiar with the area, like,
> how to get to that little known hill known as Mt Diablo.  So who got
> on a bike to take me for a ride but Grant himself.  He was on a single
> speed of some kind, cruiser style, but double top tube to be sure, and
> I took out the same 52 Sam I'd take out before.  And we went up some
> very steep hills, paths, and a road to a nearby water tank with views
> of hwy 24 and Walnut Creek.  I've been off my bike since early Feb and
> I could barely keep up with him on some ascents, and I'm in decent
> shape (just not bike shape).  He's clearly in more decent shape.
>
> I think it doesn't climb quite like my Trek, but it's far better than
> the LHT.  I just needed to be sure, as later I did the deed-  Yikes!
> (The last time I bought a road bike was in 1986, and I spent 10%-- non-
> inflation adjusted).  I decided to get the front rack and cream
> longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid.
>
> So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change
> purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of
> anticipation.
>
> On May 4, 6:30 pm, EricP  wrote:
> > I don't find the Sam Hillborne bad at hill climbing.  Although with
> > the longer chainstays, it isn't the quickest thing in the world.  Will
> > probably feel slower than your Trek.  And, like Patrick, I can feel a
> > bit of wheel flop at certain speeds, and with certain tires.  With my
> > style of riding, it really doesn't become an issue.  Spent Sunday
> > climbing quite a few hills and at no time did the bike wander to the
> > point where I felt unsafe, even on roads with traffic and minimal
> > shoulders for riding.
> >
> > And compared to the LHT the Rivendell is a more spirited climber.
> > Also happen to own a 26 inch wheel LHT and while stable and
> > predictible, it will definitely not win any hill climbing contests.
> > Unless of course, your opponent is on a Bakfiets.
> >
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
> >
> > On May 4, 9:53 am, TSW  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much
> > > discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb?
> >
> > > I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54,
> > > and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire,
> > > and I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills
> > > around here.  I'll need to to test ride a Sam again, as Riv HQ isn't
> > > too handy to a steep hill.  I took out a Surly LHT (52/26 in) recently
> > > up a fairly steep hill and found it sluggish.
> >
> > > But in the meantime, I wonder what're folks' thoughts on how the Sam
> > > does on hills.
> >
> > > TIA,
> > > TS
> > > Berkeley
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Re: [RBW] Re: 600K Brevet

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Real nice video of the 32 hour adventure!  Thanks for putting those
together.  Congratulations (and you to, Mike and Gabe!)!!

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Mike  wrote:

> Eric, great video. That's tough riding through the night. Well done on
> finishing your SR series. Are you confirmed for PBP?
>
> I'm curious, in the video you mention collecting receipts at controls,
> don't you guys use brevet cards and just get them signed at the open
> controls? Do you guys use info controls? I did the Oregon Randonneurs
> Coastal 600k this weekend, we had 13 controls, 5 of which were info
> controls.
>
> It sure looks like you folks had nice weather. Our weather wasn't bad
> by Oregon standards but still there was a lot of rain and a lot wind.
> At our overnight control I slept for 5hrs. I probably could have slept
> less but I don't really like riding at night. I got into the over-
> night control soaking wet and very hungry at 11pm. After food and a
> shower I was asleep by midnight and back on the road by 5:30am.
> Perhaps if it hadn't been so wet and windy I would have ridden through
> the night but I would have missed some of the best scenery of the
> trip. Like you I also had BB trouble. It developed a horrible creak.
> This was my first brevet NOT on a Rivendell. I rode my new Bryant
> which was great.
>
> Here's some pictures:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626679099612/
>
> I had this song stuck in my head for the entire second day. It wasn't
> so bad but still seemed like such a random song to have going in your
> head over and over and over...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aumejrcEHs
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Re: [RBW] drivetrain

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You can't really go wrong w/ XT.  When you say pancake, what's your largest
cog?  If it's only 30, you could run pretty much whatever you want.  I have
DA downtube 9 shifters and a DA rear derailer that work fine w/ a 30T low in
back.  Compact double up front.  If a 32 or 34T cog, then yeah, the XT would
be a good bet.

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:47 AM, velobandit  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am about to install Dura Ace down tube shifters and wonder which
> rear derailleur works the best? Of course I plan to use pancake
> cassette.  I assume XT with normal pull? Also is 9 speed is feasible
> with this specific set up?  Thanks in advance.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!

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Gunnars are fantastic bikes, nothing to be modest about there!!!  :-)

A 29er Rockhound is on my short list of entries under the title "Next Bike".


On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Rick P  wrote:

>
>
> it was cool to so many different Rivendells all together. And nobody
> dissed my Gunnar either.
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Re: [RBW] Bike commuting in Los Angeles

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LA east to west is very rideable, although I've only done it for pleasure.
Commuters might say otherwise.  Bicycle Fixation is a good site for some
insider LA info:  http://www.living-room.org/  It's proprietor, Richard
Risemerg, is a wealth of knowledge.

I hope you have an excellent stay, maybe we'll even have a SoCal riders
event one of these days you can go to (hint, hint people)!


On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:40 PM, andrew hill  wrote:

> Yup, totally rideable.  It will be faster than driving, during rush hours
> too (especially in the afternoons).
>
> The exact route will take some care - you can take the "direct" route most
> of the time just fine, but a couple nice side-streets from that route will
> mean less traffic.  Check out Romaine, Willoughby, etc and figure out which
> has lights at the big cross streets.
>
> The only dangerous bit of BH is Sunset Blvd, and that's the more western
> bit of BH towards UCLA.
>
> Best,
> Andrew
>
> On May 10, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Bridgestone wrote:
>
> > I just got a job that will move me from NYC to LA this Sunday. Could
> > be temporary, could be permanent. I'll be staying in Beverly Hills
> > with my mother-in-law. The gig is 15 miles away on Hollwood Blvd. and
> > Cahuenga. Is that rideable without killing myself?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friday the 13th

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Sir Arthur Conan Doyle has a great quote for times such as these, and I
think you did it intuitively!

“When the spirits are low, when the day appears dark, when work becomes
monotonous, when hope hardly seems worth having, just mount a bicycle and go
out for a spin down the road, without thought on anything but the ride you
are 
taking.
”

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:13 AM, MichaelH  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing the photos, very nicely done.  I especially liked
> the moon shots.  Life is good, even when our life situation isn't; but
> going for a good ride always helps that.
>
> peace,
> michael
>
> On May 14, 2:32 am, manueljohnacosta 
> wrote:
> > With the dread of losing my job hanging over my head and my lost
> > wallet somewhere in Milpitas I find it amazing that I can brighten up
> > my mood with just a simple bike ride home.
> >
> > Pictures proved that I like taking pictures:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157626591058217/
> >
> > -Manny "My Middle name is bad luck" Acosta
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Re: [RBW] 58 Saluki Bomber

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Looks GREAT Frank!  Salukis were such neat bikes, especially in the larger
sizes.

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, frank_a  wrote:

> I recently found a Saluki on Craigslist. I sold off my 60 Saluki a few
> years ago and realized not too long afterward it was a bad idea. This
> was before the Hetre and Pari-Moto etc... Anyway I wanted to try
> another Saluki and while the 60 is the right size for me they don't
> pop up very often and for my plans I was pretty sure the 58 would work
> out.
>  I've set this one up as a replacement for my old 56 Atlantis. That
> one was shod with the 2.1 Continental Town and County tires with wide
> Brooks and Albatross bars. I was a great set up but small for me,
> especially the top tube.
>  This Saluki is set up with the Schwalbe "Fatties" from Rivendell.
> They measure just under 47mm wide on Synergys and clear the stays
> fine. This is working out better than I had hoped. It feels a lot like
> the 26" Atlantis did, probably due to the same set-up but I like the
> longer wheelbase and handling on this one. I'm more balanced on this
> frame. If it had a sub-72 seat tube angle (like my custom) It'd be
> perfect. The V/O seatpost gets the saddle where I need it.
>  I'm sure I'll try a set of Hetres sooner or later but for now I'm
> having a blast on this bike.
> Here's a link to a photo after a "rough stuff" ride:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/5721871391/in/photostream/
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>
> - Frank
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Re: [RBW] Hello folks

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Hey Scotty, sounds like you went in with the perfect bike.

Let the 10 week countdown commence!

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Scotty  wrote:

> I just thought I would introduce myself. Im Scot and I live in Holiday
> Florida. 3 weeks ago I ordered a new A Homer Hilsen complete bike from
> Rivendell. They told me it would take 8 weeks for them to get the
> frame and another 2 weeks for them to build it up. I am very excited
> to get and ride my bike. I have been drooling over the Rivbike website
> for a few years now and I came into the opportunity to get one and
> took it. It was a little bit of a gamble as I have not actually seen
> one in person. I am going solely on research and reputation. I have
> seen and ridden a Grant designed Bridgestone and I am fully confident
> in his work and Keven was very helpfull in my parts selection and
> sizing.
>
> I am also a member of the Surly Owners Group and i own and ride a
> Surly Long Haul Trucker. I have put allot of miles on my Surly and
> have also lost over 70 pounds riding it so My Riv is a bit of a reward
> for reaching a short term fitness goal and will hopefully keep me
> motivated to reach my long term goals of further weight loss and
> fitness as well as replacing my cars whenever possible.
> I have already gotten some good info from your group here and have
> some more reading to do. If there are any other Tampa Bay area
> Rivendell owners on here please say hi.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

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Grand Bois 28s are good on the hardpack.  Great all around tires, although
they're wearing down really fast IMHO.  I had the 30mm ones as well, and
those had problems, but so far the 28s are great.

If you want something a little larger, consider the Challenge Grifo XS.
Touch of tread would be great if you ride in the dirt occasionally.
http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222343216/421/Challenge-Grifo-XS-700x32c.html

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> The Roly Poly got nixed on BQ's rollout reviews, tho' I don't
> necessarily buy everything they say (too many variables, IMO). But how
> do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel? Would I be
> pushing it? I've been thinking of a pair of JB Greens, which I've
> tried and liked, but can easily get by with 28s for the kind of riding
> I expect to do on this bike (the Herse) -- in fact, just took of the
> barking, doggy 32 mm TourGuard Paselas and replaced them with used IRC
> Tandem 30s: 27.5 mm versus 29.6 or so on very similar rims, and at the
> same pressures -- 70-80 or so -- the IRCs are noticeably smoother over
> 4" wide expansion cracks. I do not like the Tourguards, so any one who
> wants a good deal on them, LMK.
>
> Also: what do the JBGs measure on a 23 mm rim?
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Aaron Thomas 
> wrote:
> > For a nice tire around 28 mm wide, I'd opt for the Challenge
> Parigi-Roubaix,
> > the Grand Bois Cerf, or the Roll-y Pol-y. I have limited experience with
> the
> > Schwalbes (didn't like 'em) and quite a bit of experience with the Ruffy
> > Tuffy (very durable and long-lasting, but a bit dead feeling). The three
> > aforementioned tires are all more lively and faster, and I'm able to ride
> > them at about 85-90 psi.
> > If I had to chose one of the two you ask about, I'd go Ruffy Tuffy over
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Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

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I haven't used the Grifos, but the tread is really minimal from when I
looked at them.  It's not going to slow you down :)  That's the XS model,
not the regular Grifo which is more of a lugged cyclocross pattern.

The GBs are really nice tires.  I think you would like either size, although
if you like the 22s, might as well get the 28s.  They are true to size.  The
30mm ones were closer to 31mm.  REALLY light tires, holding them feels like
there's nothing there!

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Thanks, David. I ride this bike mostly on pavement -- the dirt here in
> my area is too sandy for anything except really fat and soft tires --
> but I want to be able to take short detours off the bike path and off
> the pavements in, say, Corrales, near my house. I'd prefer a good road
> tire that does acceptably on hardpack, so the GBN 30s sound ideal for
> me -- I'm willing to put up with lower mileage for a better ride.
>
> Do the GBs run true to size?
>
> And do the Grifo XSs roll well on pavement?
>
> After finding supple 22 mm tires (and 559s at that) quite acceptable
> over such rough pavement as I encounter, 30s ought to be like pillows
> for my needs. (Damn, those Tourguards are harsh!)
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:58 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > Grand Bois 28s are good on the hardpack.  Great all around tires,
> although
> > they're wearing down really fast IMHO.  I had the 30mm ones as well, and
> > those had problems, but so far the 28s are great.
> >
> > If you want something a little larger, consider the Challenge Grifo XS.
> > Touch of tread would be great if you ride in the dirt occasionally.
> >
> http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222343216/421/Challenge-Grifo-XS-700x32c.html
> >
> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Roly Poly got nixed on BQ's rollout reviews, tho' I don't
> >> necessarily buy everything they say (too many variables, IMO). But how
> >> do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel? Would I be
> >> pushing it? I've been thinking of a pair of JB Greens, which I've
> >> tried and liked, but can easily get by with 28s for the kind of riding
> >> I expect to do on this bike (the Herse) -- in fact, just took of the
> >> barking, doggy 32 mm TourGuard Paselas and replaced them with used IRC
> >> Tandem 30s: 27.5 mm versus 29.6 or so on very similar rims, and at the
> >> same pressures -- 70-80 or so -- the IRCs are noticeably smoother over
> >> 4" wide expansion cracks. I do not like the Tourguards, so any one who
> >> wants a good deal on them, LMK.
> >>
> >> Also: what do the JBGs measure on a 23 mm rim?
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Aaron Thomas  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > For a nice tire around 28 mm wide, I'd opt for the Challenge
> >> > Parigi-Roubaix,
> >> > the Grand Bois Cerf, or the Roll-y Pol-y. I have limited experience
> with
> >> > the
> >> > Schwalbes (didn't like 'em) and quite a bit of experience with the
> Ruffy
> >> > Tuffy (very durable and long-lasting, but a bit dead feeling). The
> three
> >> > aforementioned tires are all more lively and faster, and I'm able to
> >> > ride
> >> > them at about 85-90 psi.
> >> > If I had to chose one of the two you ask about, I'd go Ruffy Tuffy
> over
> >> > the
> >> > Marathon Racer.
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Re: [RBW] Re: How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?

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Brilliant!  I have read the over-cleaner method, but it involves heating
them so didn't sound so great.
This sounds perfect!  Might just have to do it on some bars tomorrow!

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:50 PM, williwoods  wrote:

> Very easy...Draino liquid gel. takes about 30 minutes to soak and
> then hose it off. You dont want to let it soak more than an hour or 2
> though. I did this to a black ano chainring and it looked factory
> matte silver when I was done. I had to gently scrub it a little and
> did it in 3 passes, soak, rinse/scrub, rinse, dry repeat. If you do it
> right they will look factory finished.
>
> You wont be able to do this with the bars but for smaller parts I used
> a ziplock freezer bag to soak the chainring.
>
> good luck
>
> On May 17, 5:24 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> > LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were
> > discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise
> > nice handlebars?
> >
> > I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish.
> > If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/
> > aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars.
> >
> > Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this?
> >
> > thanks.
> > RL
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Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops

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Happy metric Tuesday to you!

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, EricP  wrote:

> Or Soma Clarence.  They don't have the forward position of the H bar,
> but have the same back sweep.  I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike
> and rode 64 miles on them today.
>
> Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> wrote:
> > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement
> > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters
> >
> > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile
> > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never
> > > used them they are worth a try.
> >
> > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Try Moustache Bars
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028
> >
> > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for
> > > > them :-)  Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them.
> > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar
> > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles).
> >
> > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops.
> > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V.
> >
> > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali  wrote:
> >
> > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both
> long
> > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting.
> > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me
> >
> > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis)
> so
> > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text -
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?

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This is your annodization, and it's ending one minute at a time.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:24 PM, rperks  wrote:

> I have used Red Devil lye in a warm water bath.  Long gloves and eye
> protection, think Fight Club soap making scene.  Fast and easy, if the
> anodizing is persistant you can help it along with a Scotch brite
> pad.  Rinse with water well when done.  I stripped my A9 headset on
> the roadeo this way, I bought it NOS Black.  I thought about polishing
> it out with Simichrome, but th emat gray looked good with the RCP
> finish.
>
> -
> Rob Perks
> http://oceanaircycles.com/
>
> On May 17, 5:24 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> > LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were
> > discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise
> > nice handlebars?
> >
> > I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish.
> > If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/
> > aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars.
> >
> > Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this?
> >
> > thanks.
> > RL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Columbia Gorge Ride

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Open-wheeled roadster mode, awesome!

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:17 AM, newenglandbike wrote:

> Wow great pictures.Looks like a wonderful ride and some perfect
> weather.   How far is it to the falls?
>
>
> On May 19, 11:17 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > Today was an absolutely amazing day here in Portland. I woke to sun
> > and expected highs in the 70s. I ended up doing an out and back from
> > home to a few miles past Multnomah Falls. In spite of the nice weather
> > the traffic wasn't too bad. The descent from Crown Point is really one
> > of my favorites. It also makes for a great climb. I rode the Hilsen
> > with no fenders, a small saddlebag and JB Green tires. I gotta say,
> > the Hilsen felt light, fast and responsive. It's a great bike and
> > today was a perfect day for getting out on it.
> >
> > Here's some pictures:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626636677409/with...
> >
> > --mike
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Re: [RBW] 58 cm Quickbeam still available

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Come on Patrick, there's gotta' be room for one more!!!

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:25 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Damned good price and my size -- almost unfortunate I just bought the
> Herse.
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Tim Smith  wrote:
> > My 58cm Quickbeam is still up for sale. The price has been reduced
> > to $1290, and now includes packing and shipping to anywhere in the USA
> > lower 48. If you pick the bike up from my house (SF Bay Area), the
> > price will be
> > $1250. Hard to believe that this almost like-new bike hasn't sold
> > yet. I wouldn't be selling it if medical conditions didn't mandate.
> >
> > This bike was re-painted bright yellow--for esthetics, not because of
> > crash
> > damage--in 2009. New wheels with Phil hubs and Mavic rims were
> > professionally-built by Peter J White.  The cantilever bosses were
> > removed
> > before the repaint, and Tektro side-pull brakes installed. It's done
> > only a few
> > miles since the re-paint.
> >
> > Email me for complete specs and pictures.
> > Call at 650-572-8831 (evenings) if you'd like to discuss the sale.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anything look odd on this Ram?

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OK, at home and can see ad.  Wish he was closer and I could check it out for
you, but that's a bit of a drive in a direction I never go.  The frame does
look really nice.  Components a serviceable mis-match of someone's garage
bin; probably the original owner swapping out the good parts when they were
selling it.  Can't see the drivetrain side, so who knows about components,
find out if they're decent stuff, and if so, looks like a great bike!  If
not, point out the flaws and talk him down.

Good luck, and if you're driving by (which you would be on the I-10) drop me
a line!

David

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:08 PM, MichaelH  wrote:

> The frame looks to be in good condition, but the sloppy work on the
> bars would lead me to take a hard look at the rest of the components
> and maintenance.  But ultimately it's more about a fair price, than it
> is about whether its a good bike.  If it fits your body & goals, go
> for it.
>
> michael
>
> On May 20, 1:51 pm, Daniel  wrote:
> > I've been looking at look at this Ram on Craigslist:
> http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/2388442830.html
> >
> > The cable routing, handlebars and tape are all bugging me, but I'm on
> > the fence about going to see it anyway.
> >
> > What do y'all think?
> >
> > Daniel
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Re: [RBW] Camping and riding in the Sierras?

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If you're bring bikes and can work it into the schedule, DEFINITELY plan on
breaking loose for a ride on the Orange Co. coast or maybe up to Santiago
Pk!  I'm sure we can even come up with a loaner or two if pressed!

Bishop is a pretty cool area to check out.  Lots of riding in the foothills
up there, although I don't know specifics (it's usually covered with snow
and I do CC up there).


On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not a bike tour, but places to ride and camp along a Sierras route
> from Salem, OR to Anaheim, CA.
>
> My boss and I are driving from Portland to a trade show in Anaheim
> next month. We're taking two days each way, and going through the
> Sierras, not I-5. We'll camp one night or two, and are considering
> bringing our bikes. If you have suggestions for great mixed terrain
> rides around Susanville (the halfway point), or along 395 or 95, I'd
> love to hear them.
>
> I'm really excited about this - dragging the Google Maps route off I-5
> added a couple hours driving each day (less than I expected), and
> turned a grueling chore into something potentially great.
>
>  Philip
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Columbia Gorge Ride

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Would be a great way to start the day!

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Mike  wrote:

> On May 20, 6:43 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Open-wheeled roadster mode, awesome!
>
> Yeah, open-wheeled roadster mode was awesome. After all my recent
> miles on Marathons, I have to admit the JB Greens felt great. I need
> to do a bit of a tire shuffle between the bikes--JB Greens to the
> Bryant rando (if they'll fit, could be tight, Marathon Supremes from
> the QB to the Hilsen, and the Marathon 700x32s that were on the rando
> to the QB. Should be all set for summer after that.
>
> From my house to the Multnomah Falls is 36 miles according to The
> Google. Since I went past the falls I think the total mileage for the
> ride was 85 or so.
>
> Sure was a nice day to have off. Now it's back to work for the next 3
> days. I may leave extra early one morning and go through Forest Park
> and then just shower at work.
>
> --mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping and riding in the Sierras?

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168 is exactly what I was referring to... wonderful Xcountry skiing in the
winter.  The road is totally closed in the winter, so you can take it all
the way up to Lake Sabrina.  A lot of good cheap fun!

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Michael_S wrote:

> Not sure which Bishop David is thinking of but it rarely gets snow and
> actually right now it's fairly warm 80+.  There is some nice riding
> west of town off hiway 168 toward Bishop Lakes if it's not too hot.
> High Desert terrain until you climb higher.  Not really the Sierras
> either. It is the Owens Valley, a down dropped fault block between the
> Sierra's and White/Inyo's.
>
> The area around Mammoth Lake is nice, but the silty ash soil  makes
> dirt road riding tougher on fat road tires. I love the climb to Lake
> Mary up 203. You can loop around the lake and then take Old Mammoth
> road back to town. Should be free of snow in June.  Old 395 between
> Crowley and Rock Creek rd is nice and so is Rock Creek rd.  The ride
> over to Red's Meadows is fun too from the town of Mammoth lakes.
>
> and of course Lake Tahoe has some nice rides too. Out of your way
> perhaps.
>
> ~Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 20, 4:53 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > If you're bring bikes and can work it into the schedule, DEFINITELY plan
> on
> > breaking loose for a ride on the Orange Co. coast or maybe up to Santiago
> > Pk!  I'm sure we can even come up with a loaner or two if pressed!
> >
> > Bishop is a pretty cool area to check out.  Lots of riding in the
> foothills
> > up there, although I don't know specifics (it's usually covered with snow
> > and I do CC up there).
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Philip Williamson <
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Not a bike tour, but places to ride and camp along a Sierras route
> > > from Salem, OR to Anaheim, CA.
> >
> > > My boss and I are driving from Portland to a trade show in Anaheim
> > > next month. We're taking two days each way, and going through the
> > > Sierras, not I-5. We'll camp one night or two, and are considering
> > > bringing our bikes. If you have suggestions for great mixed terrain
> > > rides around Susanville (the halfway point), or along 395 or 95, I'd
> > > love to hear them.
> >
> > > I'm really excited about this - dragging the Google Maps route off I-5
> > > added a couple hours driving each day (less than I expected), and
> > > turned a grueling chore into something potentially great.
> >
> > >  Philip
> >
> > >  Philip Williamson
> > >www.biketinker.com
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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Eye Candy

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Beautiful...


On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Jim Cloud  wrote:

> I came across this stem, made by Nitto for Tokyo Fixed (a UK company)
> while cruising some blogs:
>
>
> http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/products/120-Stems---Quill/3879-Nitto---Craft-Stem/
>
> Obviously not a cheap component, but very nice.  It reminded me of
> some of the early Cinelli stems.
>
> Jim Cloud
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Re: [RBW] Big Rambouillet on ebay

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I love the built up picture to the bottom.  Looks perfect.

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM, rcnute  wrote:

> Cool paint job, nice price.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3zfu9du
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Re: [RBW] Croton Point Park Bicycle Camping Trip Photos

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Looks like a great trip!  55 miles can sure take you to a whole other world!

And the Berthouds are mahhh-velo-us dahling!


On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Curtis Schmitt
wrote:

> Photos here: *http://tinyurl.com/3fm72ch*
>
> This was my first bicycle camping trip on the Romulus. It also included my
> two longest rides on the Romulus at 55 miles each way from NYC to Croton
> Point Park, NY. My previous longest ride on the Romulus was 25 miles.
>
> I front-loaded it, and loved the way it handled. My last camping trip was
> on a front-loaded Kogswell, and I loved the way that felt as well. I find it
> much more difficult to shoulder a front-loaded bike, but everything else is
> preferable to me over a rear-loaded bike.
>
> Some of you may remember I was trying to figure out which color Ortliebs
> would look best with the Rom blue, but I decided none of them would look
> nearly as good as palping Berthoud 372s, so I went with them instead. They
> are fantastic. I will definitely be picking up more grey Berthoud luggage
> for the next trip, either another pair of panniers, or a deep handlebar bag
> paired with the 604 saddlebag.
>
> Two things:
> 1. I stripped the fork's right side fender braze-on somehow throughout the
> course of the trip. The bolt holding the Nitto Campee rack had come loose,
> and maybe with all of the weight that's when it stripped. Or maybe I
> over-tightened it when I realized it was loose. Either way, it is stripped
> and I'm not sure what to do about it. I ran about four zip ties just above
> the drop out in all of the holes the Campee tab has. That got me home. But
> now I need to figure out what to do. Perhaps that braze-on can be removed, a
> new one installed, and then repainted? And maybe at that point I have two
> additional added above the drop out, since it will be repainted anyway, and
> that's preferable for front rack mounting...
>
> 2. I'm just not a huge fan of the mustache bars, as much as I try to like
> them and really love the look. I think I'm going back to Noodles, but 46cm
> this time instead of 44cm which always worked very well in the past, other
> than feeling a tad narrow to me. Maybe I'll do the splitters thing, keep the
> mustache on for commuting and use the drops for longer rides. Also, if I do
> go with a Berthoud handlebar bag the drops will work much better. I don't
> know if it would even be possible or convenient to install a decent sized
> handlebar bag with mustache bars.
>
> Curtis
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Re: [RBW] Re: S72O - SFBay

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Bummer, hope you can avoid it and still some of it!



On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:10 PM, bicitourist  wrote:

> ah crap! i just check the weather last night and it was only a 20% chance
> of rain.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

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Rob, this was a day to remember!  Curious about the freewheel, too.  Man,
lucky it was downhill to the ocean!

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Michael_S  wrote:

> lemme guess IRD?   I've been up that pass from the back side (started
> at the Y in Frazier park). Beautiful country and a wonderful place to
> be.
> Glad you made it back home.
>
> ~Mike
>
>
> On Jun 5, 8:45 pm, rperks  wrote:
> > I do understand how lucky I was for the dif. in elevation, if it had
> > been the other way around I probably would have been hitch hiking my
> > way out.
> >
> > I am also sure a true kick bike would have been much more comfortable
> > compared ro stradling the bike, one foot in a pedal the other swinging
> > along.  I am not sure I would be as confident on the fast descents
> > though.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Jun 5, 8:25 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > There is someone who has done the Markleeville Death Ride (150 miles,
> > > 15,000 feet of climbing in the high Sierra Nevada south of Lake Tahoe)
> > > on a kick scooter.
> >
> > > At least you weren't 4000 feet below home!
> >
> > > Bill
> >
> > > On Jun 5, 5:40 pm, Robert Perks  wrote:
> >
> > > > Yesterday I set out on my Roadeo for a planned century ride up into
> the
> > > > mountains north of Ventura.  The ride was cut short due to a
> mechanical with
> > > > the freewheel.  Of course I was about 40 miles away from and 4000
> feet above
> > > > home with zero cell coverage for miles.  This is when what would have
> only
> > > > previously been a thought experiment turned real.  Jack Brown greens
> 70lbs
> > > > in front 80 in the rear with about a 260 bike, rider and gear load.
>  The
> > > > goal was to get home without having to call for a ride.  No forward
> help
> > > > from the drive train and only my walking or kicking feet to keep
> things
> > > > moving.
> >
> > > > Details here:
> http://oceanaircycles.com/2011/06/05/metric-cross-training-ride/
> > > > andhttp://wp.me/p19mfs-p2
> >
> > > > I kept the average speed home above 9mph, and was able to coast on
> slopes I
> > > > previously thought were flat.  I can only imagine the average speeds
> I could
> > > > have attained if I had tires of even lower rolling resistance.
> >
> > > > Anybody up for a really long distance soap box derby with different
> tires?
> > > > This could be an interesting experiment if repeated with different
> tires or
> > > > run with a group.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: So Cal July 10 - Three Speed "River and Sea" ride

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Who is this "Andy" person, anyway...?

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Andy.M  wrote:

> Ill be in town that weekendnow which bike to bring... hmm
> -Andy
> On Jun 7, 3:24 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
> > Good times are heading your way, people.  Noel (who does know how to
> > post to this group BTW)  is putting together a real nice ride.  35
> > miles through coastal Orange County.  Should be a perfect route.
> >
> > Conversation here on the flickr:
> http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_apprec...
> >
> > And original posting on the SoCal 3 speed tour site:
> http://www.threespeedtouringclub.com/riverandseadaytour.htm
> >
> > All bikes and riders are encouraged to show and go for a ride.  One to
> > 30 gears allowed (sorry 31 speeders).  Be there or be L7.
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Re: [RBW] Re: And Summer Begins.

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My last day was Friday, and it was a non-student day.  Got home early and
celebrated by playing with my bike!



On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Justin August wrote:

> Second grade teacher here. 7 more school days. Lots of townie rides
> lately, gearin up for some longer stretches this summer!
>
> On Jun 11, 1:25 pm, rob markwardt  wrote:
> > For me6 more days2 of which are half-dayless than 30 hours
> > of kid-time (not that I'm counting)...and the madness of teaching
> > middle school is over for the year.  Our weather is March-like but I'm
> > still riding.
> >
> > On Jun 11, 8:24 am, Mike  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I hear you Manny. My wife is a teacher and off at the end of next
> > > week. The weather here in OR seems to be warming up with the sun and
> > > blue skies making appearances.  We'll be heading out to Sisters, OR
> > > for a few days of lounging around, reading and hiking. I doubt I'll
> > > take a bike with me on this trip. I went for a sub 36hr overnight last
> > > week and had a blast.
> >
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626801282019/with.
> ..
> >
> > >  Hoping to get out next week for another s36o. Lots of overnight bike
> > > trips planned for July, short and long. Also planning a 10 day trip in
> > > Aug. This past trip was on my LHT and while I didn't have a big load
> > > it was so much better than on my Hilsen which I've been using for
> > > camping/touring the past 2yrs. The 48cm Noodles are fantastic, a great
> > > choice for camping/touring/country biking. I may have to get a set for
> > > the Hilsen.
> >
> > > Now time to head off to work.
> >
> > > --mike
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