I've come to appreciate threadless.  The ease of setting them is
fantastic.  If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it.   I
don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good
with high bars on a too-small frame.  I think they look nicer than the
big "7" of a quill stem sticking way up there though.  Plus I don't
like a big hung of pointy steel aimed at my genitals when I'm trail
riding.  As bfd mentioned, once you have the position set, presuming
you don't cut the steerer you have lots of adjustability.  You have to
get a new stem to adjust for reach, but you have to do that with a
quill stem as well.  And the open face plate for bar changes is
wonderful, although used rarely.

My $.02

On 4/5/11, bfd <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
>> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
>> mainstream.
>
> Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will
> sell. Further, Riv does offer or once offered a threadless version on
> at least a couple of its bikes:
>
> Roadeo:
> http://assets.rivbike.com/images/products/full/0000/3108/mark_s_roadeo.jpg
>
> Legolas (currently not offered):
> http://tandemhearts.com/coppermine/albums/legolas/legolas_03.jpg
>
> And I'm sure there are more than one Riv Custom frameset that use
> threadless.
>
> I'm not the only one who likes threadless. One of the original
> "retrogrouches" himself, Jobst Brandt (hope he recovers from his
> accident soon!) believes they are an *improvement* over threaded
> headsets and quill stems:
>
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/threadless-headset.html
>
>>1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
>> thinks are important.  1.125" threadless is flat out better for
>> reasons that Riv thinks are entirely unimportant.
>>
> I didn't just suggest 1.125" threadless, as I did state that 1"
> threadless with a shim could be an option.  Further, how many people
> really adjust their stems up and down once they've been set? Moreover,
> unless you cut the steerer tube too short, spacers can be added or
> removed. Finally, there are stems that rise.
>
> Again, these are just suggestion to *attract* people to this new
> frameset. Good Luck!
>
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