[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[stevef]

I never got along with 9 speed STI levers.  That is one awkward feeling 
hood shape!  back when I used Noodles,  i used Campy 8 speed for a long 
time, and shimano barcons with various brake levers.  Now I use compact 
short/shallow bars with 10 speed shimano STI levers, the later model with 
concealed cables.  I think these levers would be fine with Noodles as 
well.  Had to buy new brake calipers too, they messed about with the cable 
pull ratio to make these levers incompatible with other calipers.  But the 
levers are very comfortable and work fine shifting a mongrel drivetrain 
consisting of a 10 speed chain and a 10 speed, 11-36 cassette with my 9 
speed XT derailer.  Shifting up front is just adequate on a 1st generation 
XTR crankset set up as a compact double sporting a Shimano 10 speed 34t 
small ring and the original 8 speed 46t big ring.  I'm still using the old 
8 speed Campy RacingT triple front derailer, which may be part of the 
problem up front.  I might replace it with a Shimano 10 speed CX-70 mech 
eventually.

Steve

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 10:45:55 AM UTC-4, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
> bend for my liking.
>
> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 that 
> Riv sells 
> 
>  
> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are Paul 
> Racers, if that's a factor.
>
> Let's hear 'em!
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
>

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[RBW] Re: continuing to ride desire

[stevef]

Not a Riv option but have you considered buying a Fat Bike?  

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:37:29 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I'm in Charlotte, NC and ride daily.  Today was 56F and sunny.  Some 
> cooler days but there's usually a warm day not too far away.  I'm on Warm 
> Showers if you want to come here and I have a Cheviot in the garage for you 
> to ride.  Or Southwest and American fly your bike as a normal bag fee if 
> boxed.  (lookup dimensions).  Vaccinations and booster required for an 
> indoor stay.  Otherwise the backporch is always available.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 3:53:58 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> It's usually cheap to fly to Las Vegas, and there's abundant trails all 
>> around, plus January/February is lovely weatherwise. Just don't gamble.
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 8:07:30 AM UTC-5 peec...@yahoo.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I ride my Atlantis MIT from March going forward until the ice and snow 
>>> fall.  I have lost the enthusiasm for studded tire riding in the cold.  I 
>>> like to ride trails primarily.  Weather here in LaCrosse, WI has turned 
>>> nasty and I am missing riding.  I've got the time to venture somewhere warm 
>>> where there is abundant trail riding and am asking the group for 
>>> suggestions.  Thanks in advance.  I may not go anywhere, given COVID, but I 
>>> can always dream.  Tim Petersen.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Introduction to Bike Touring course

[SteveF]

On Feb 25, 1:24 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
...
> Do I need to bring one pair of shorts for each day? Just two to alternate
> and somehow find a way to wash them and drp pants or similar + travel
> underwear? My wife bought me two pairs of Ex-Officio Give-N-Go boxer briefs
> that supposedly dry very quickly and pack very small. Haven't tried them
> yet, in fact, haven't ridden unpadded as I am just now starting to fit in
> the Musa XXL knickers but still need them to be a bit looser for comfort.

Rene, I've used convertable (zip off legs) pants with built in mesh
briefs on tour several times and they've worked great.  One pair of
pants that does the job of two, and no separate underwear to bother
with.  I tried a lot of different brands and the Orvis were the best
by far.  Soft material, not clammy, nice almost tailored fit and they
held up fine.  These:

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=19RRs

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Introduction to Bike Touring course

[SteveF]

On Feb 25, 1:24 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
...
> Do I need to bring one pair of shorts for each day? Just two to alternate
> and somehow find a way to wash them and drp pants or similar + travel
> underwear? My wife bought me two pairs of Ex-Officio Give-N-Go boxer briefs
> that supposedly dry very quickly and pack very small. Haven't tried them
> yet, in fact, haven't ridden unpadded as I am just now starting to fit in
> the Musa XXL knickers but still need them to be a bit looser for comfort.


Rene, I've had good luck on tour with convertable pants (zip off legs)
that have a built in mesh brief for off the bike wear.  One pair of
pants that pretty much does it all!  Orvis are the nicest I found and
I tried quite a few.  Very light feel, nice, almost tailored fit, and
comfortable.  These are the ones I have:

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=19RRs

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Lumpy Hetres

[SteveF]

I hate to say it but Panaracer's QC seems to be slipping a bit.  There
was a rash of sidewall bulges and failures in Pasela's not long ago.
And lately many of the Panaracer-made tires I've bought had issues
with running true and wobble free.  I have had to date a  Hetre, a
Pasela TG, a Soma-branded version of Pasela,  a PariMoto and a
ColdelaVie all with a degree of wobble, bulgy, irregular casings or
some similar flaw...I bought all these in pairs and the mates are
generally good so it's not across the board, but 50% seems a high rate
of issue-prone casings to me.  (I have re-seated and checked the bead
on these multiple times and it doesn't appear to be installation
error)

The only one I felt was bad enough to exchange was the Pasela TG which
showed signs of a sidewall fixin' to bust.  The rest are like Brett's
Hetre--just a bit off true and I can feel a wobble or pulse/thump when
riding on smooth surfaces.  Not enough to bother exchanging them but a
bit annoying, especially in the ones that cost north of $50.

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Japanese Atlantis vs Wisconsin Waterford Atlantis

[SteveF]

I have very vague recollections that Grant posted in the news/blog
column at Riv's webpage that the last run of Toyo Atlati would have
some special touches that wouldn't be seen again.  Just little
nicities of paint or features--I can not recall the specifics.  No
differences in quality between the two builders/sources of  frames
otherwise I shouldn't think...

Steve

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[RBW] Re: What's your freewheel preference?

[SteveF]

I've got a 650b-wheeled Quickbeam (just for reference) and I live in a
pretty flat area.  I found the 32-tooth ring unusably small so I
replaced the triple crank with a double and got rid of the chain
guard.  (it's on my 1X9 Kogswell Kommuter now)  I'm running a 38/40 up
front, with a 17-19 dos enos freewheel on one side and a 16 fixed cog
on the other.  I find the 38-19 a good relaxed/recovery or dirt road
gear and the 40/17 good for a feelin' strong day.  The fixed I don't
use much but when the mood hits me it's good to know it's there...

Gratuitous pics:

Quickbeam:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/4761697089/

Kogswell:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5484895731/

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint

[SteveF]

Okay, I was expecting something gaudy but your pinstriping is very
tasteful and understated--complements and ties together bikes and bags
quite well.  And tidily done, to boot!  (my efforts at fine detail
painting always end up looking like a dog's dinner at least to my
perhaps over-self-critical eye)

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe 700C X 50mm tires on Velocity Chukker rims

[SteveF]

I pinch flatted after getting a puncture once.  The (front) tire went
soft from the puncture and threw me off the rough edge of the pavement
which pinch flatted the softened tube. I patched and inflated that
tube one hole at a time before I finally figured out what happened--
took quite a long time and I was very ready to be done with it long
before I actually finished!

Steve

On Mar 23, 10:03 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On Mar 23, 8:34 am, ewb  wrote:
>
> > Do you have any tips to help prevent pinch flats?
>
> Are you sure it was a pinch flat?  I imagine it would take the mother
> of all potholes to pinch flat a 50mm tire - even a somewhat
> underinflated 50mm tire.  Given the second flat, I'd be checking the
> tire or rim for something that might be nicking the tube.
>
> If it was the mother of all potholes (which it's not, because that
> particular pothole is in Vermont) that caused it, get a good light to
> help spot those suckers when you're riding around at night.  they can
> cause more damage than flat tire, for sure.

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint

[SteveF]

I wouldn't call that cheating--that's more along the lines of having
the right tool for the job...

Steve

On Mar 25, 2:55 am, Benedikt  wrote:
> I had a handicap with the tidiness.  There is a little pinstripe type
> tool that carves lines in leather and lines up with the edge.  When I
> built the bags I had carved two of these and I just painted the raised
> portion in between.
>
> You can see an example of those, pre-painting, on the top flap here 
> -http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5186904832/in/set-721576...
>
> and some on the front back, sides here 
> -http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5186305169/in/set-721576...
>
> On Mar 24, 10:51 am, SteveF  wrote:
>
> > Okay, I was expecting something gaudy but your pinstriping is very
> > tasteful and understated--complements and ties together bikes and bags
> > quite well.  And tidily done, to boot!  (my efforts at fine detail
> > painting always end up looking like a dog's dinner at least to my
> > perhaps over-self-critical eye)
>
> > Steve

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint

[SteveF]

It's because the photo is marked "moderate," in the privacy and safety
level fields...

Steve

On Mar 24, 9:42 am, JimD  wrote:
> Yes just a bike.
> But it is, after all, bike porn.
> Hope Flickr doesn't start doing this to all our bike photos.
> =JimD
>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at :  Mar 24, 20111211AM, Benedikt wrote:
>
> > Sweet!  For some reason Flicker gives me a strange "safe search" about
> > that picture and asks me if I really want to go there.  Uh, yeah.
> > It's just a bike.
>
> > On Mar 23, 11:26 pm, Ablejack  wrote:
> >> my bike has a similar color 
> >> scheme.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253260@N00/4963970028/
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[RBW] Re: Bomba-Love 2011 :)

[SteveF]

Congratulations on the new bike!  Here's a dirt road ride at the end
of the month that I think would be a perfect adventure for it:

http://www.mmba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103205

Other Michigan area listers welcome too of course!  (I'm not sure if
I'm going to go or not but hope to.  It will depend on the weather and
my legs.)

Steve, East Lansing

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[RBW] Re: Bomba-Love 2011 :)

[SteveF]

On Apr 5, 5:10 pm, Amit Singh  wrote:
> Steve, I am SO down!  I hope to see you and other Riv-Michiganders
> there!  I'll send out a few emails to let the others know.

Good!

> We'll see, if it's just a dirt-road ride, I may decide to bring Turry,
> the turmeric-colored double-top-tube A. Homer Hilsen.  I love that
> bike.  :)

Yeah, either one would be fine I'd think.  The ride is organized by
mountain biking single speeders but I don't know if my legs are up to
riding the Quickbeam for that many miles so I might take something
geary.  They're okay with that.


> Since we're talking about Michigan rides, which sources do you use to
> find what's going on when in the state?  There's a lot of websites I
> need to check on the regular - do you know of one good source that has
> all rides on a calendar?

Mountain bike group rides get posted on the MMBA.org forum so that's
worth checking when you're feelin' dirty.

League of Michigan Bicyclists calendar also fits the bill, I'd think:

http://www.lmb.org/index.php/component/option,com_eventlist/Itemid,22/view,eventlist


Steve

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[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!

[SteveF]

Reminiscent of the silver Grant used on Herons.  Had one of those in
our stable for a while; it's a good color.

Steve

On Apr 6, 8:36 pm, Marty  wrote:
> Here's a close-up that does a pretty good job capturing the wonderful
> paint quality - albeit with a little levity on my part.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3l74q7u

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[RBW] Re: Rockapillar....Bombalized....Hunqa Hopper?

[SteveF]

Your Stumpy looks nice, real nice.  Ummm, how small is that Centurion
exactly?  A 21" by chance?  B-)

Steve "yeah, that'd be my size," Frederick, East Lansing MI

On Apr 21, 8:42 pm, jinxed  wrote:
> I work for a shop.
...
> One day a long time ago, little ol lady brings in a couple bikes that
> "We purchased over 20 years ago and hung in the garage." She didnt
> want them, and wanted something else. We took them in trade, hooked
> her up on a new bike, and the bikes went on display in our store. One
> was her small Centurion road bike, full DA. Minty mint condition

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[RBW] Re: Rockapillar....Bombalized....Hunqa Hopper?

[SteveF]

Whew!  Well, that saves me some money at least...
Steve

> It's tiny. Like 48cm. It was actually purchased by one of the admin at
> the shop when it first came in and he just displays it there.

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[RBW] Re: 54 Heron Touring on ebay

[SteveF]

It's got to be a 55cm--Heron touring models came in odd sizes.  (you
should still bid though--nice bike!)

On May 5, 7:26 am, Bruce Baker  wrote:
> he is actually measuring 54 cm c-c would that make it a 56cm...if so I might
> bid on this one..
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:22 AM, SteveF  wrote:
> > Yep, those were nice bikes--a close descendant of the RB-T.  (just as
> > the Heron Road is of the RB-1)  The Touring's came in odd sizes
> > though--this one sounds like a 55cm (since he's measuring it as 53cm C
> > to C and the top tube is listed as 56cm)
>
> > On May 5, 12:33 am, rcnute  wrote:
> > > Looks nice!
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/3m7ttma
>
> > > Ryan
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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

[SteveF]

Of course removing your fenders virtually guaranties rain, you
know...just sayin'.  B-)

On May 3, 9:58 am, Norman  wrote:
> The decks are cleared and I'll be there.  I'm also staying at the
> Sherwood.  My only regret is I had to take off the VO Zep. fenders
> from my Hillborne as they were, as put on, too annoying.  I'll try
> again another time or perhaps order the longboards.  I'll expect to
> get muddy.
> I think there was a post about someone needing a ride.  I'm in
> northern New Jersey not too far from NYC so if someone still needs
> one, let me know.
> Norman Rosenblum
>
> On May 3, 7:39 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 20:46 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> > > Attention Riv Rally East Riders:
>
> > > The Wellsboro PA weather forecast for the coming weekend (as of Monday
> > > evening) indicates a 30% chance of rain.
> > > According to my math, that translates to a 70% chance of NO RAIN... So
> > > as of this moment Riv Rally East is ON
>
> > > Please confirm if you will be joining us; otherwise please don't
> > > forget to cancel your reservation.
>
> > Thanks.  I'll be there.

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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double

[SteveF]

Get a Surly fixed cog--they have a flange on one side and you can flip
it to have that flange on the inside (toward the hub) and space the
cog out a bit (right around the 5mm you need as I recall)  It works
great.  I have a 16t Surly cog (flange turned in to optimize chainline
to my outside chainring) 17-19 Dos Enos freewheel on the flip side and
a 38/40 double chainring (no guard).  It works well for me, here in
the flatlands.

Steve

On May 8, 2:58 pm, Ron MH  wrote:
> This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work
> out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed
> gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency
> is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple
> combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16
> fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the
> chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16
> freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White
> Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel
> places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to
> ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset.
>
> Ron
>
> On May 8, 8:50 am, A D  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19
> > surly dingle cog on the fixed side.  In front I have 44/48 rings on
> > the front.  I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell
> > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly
> > uphill.   I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I
> > don't have anywhere to be.
>
> > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my
> > prototype appear long enough.
>
> > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right.  I can't
> > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though
> > I have an Ebisu AR.
>
> > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison  wrote:
>
> > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 
> > > 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear 
> > > and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 
> > > because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open 
> > > road it's back to 40/16.
>
> > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in 
> > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I 
> > > camp.
>
> > > Aloha,
>
> > > Bob
>
> > > Sent from my iPad
>
> > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike  
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of
> > > > the QB dropout.   It's about 2".     So, whereas with the WI 'double/
> > > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the
> > > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span
> > > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the
> > > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front.    Dang.
>
> > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up
> > > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe.   Then you
> > > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to
> > > > look quaint.*
>
> > > > -Matt
>
> > > > *OK not really
>
> > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> > > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on 
> > > >> their Quickbeam?
> > > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne?
>
> > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front 
> > > >> of either 38/35 or 34/31.
>
> > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 
> > > >> 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c 
> > > >> mostly on-road riding bike.
>
> > > >> Am I confused?  e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better 
> > > >> than 31/19 and 34/16...
>
> > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a 
> > > >> great idea? :)
>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> andrew
>
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[RBW] Stem swap-my DD for your TD?

[SteveF]

I have an 8cm, “short quill,” Dirt drop stem on my B-stone and I’d
like to be able to get the bars a little lower.  (quill is in as far
as it’ll go)  Anyone interested in trading for an 8cm Technomic
Deluxe? (26mm bar clamp is what I have/need)

You can see the stem in my flick’r pics of the Bstone:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=40738390%40N08&q=bridgestone&m=text

thanks, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Stem swap-my DD for your TD?

[SteveF]

It's a 52cm, but yeah--same sort of issue.  I've had Tech Deluxes on
there before so I know it'll work fine...

On May 13, 9:13 am, Ginz  wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Is that a 48cm?  I had the same exact problem with my 48cm XO-2.  The
> headtube was too short for a dirt drop and I couldn't get enough
> height out of it!  I'm now a believer in headtube extensions.
>
> Great looking bike, btw.
>
> Ginz

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[RBW] Re: Stem swap-my DD for your TD?

[SteveF]

That's a Bertoud small saddlebag from Wallingford:

http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/handlebar-bags/gb288-small-saddlebag

On May 13, 2:40 pm, rb  wrote:
> Nice bike!  What bag is that on the handlebars?

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[RBW] Re: Fast 650B Tire Options

[SteveF]

Honestly, any discussion of tire size/pressure is only half way there
if it doesn't include rider weight and (to a lesser degree) road
surface/conditions...

On May 13, 3:37 pm, Lee Chae  wrote:
> Hi Steve. I think you are in for a real treat when, down the line, you
> try out your first 38mm or so 650B tire. I feel so much difference
> between my old sets of Nifty Swiftys and the Soma B-lines, Hetres, and
> Lierres--even the Col de la Vies.
>
> On that note, I recommend the Grand Bois Lierres as a fast 650B
> option. I was really surprised by how well they rolled.
>
> My two cents,
> Lee
> SF, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM, islaysteve  wrote:
> > Well, different strokes,  I guess.  My Bleriot, on the whole, feels
> > MUCH nicer than my former pure road bike with 23's at 100+ psi.  This
> > was one of my goals, and it's why I'm loving this bike so much.  I
> > decided to go with the max pressure initially because I was concerned
> > about rolling resistance/increase in effort while  I am working to
> > regain some level of fitness.   That gain is happening.  Meanwhile,
> > the bike feels smooth and just plain great, so I see no need to change
> > anything right now.  Crossing between two (of the many) bicycle
> > cultures is interesting and I'm learning that I can and will take what
> > I want of each (i.e. STI levers on my Riv).   There's an interesting
> > post on Lovely Bicycle! that sort of illustrates this topic (but don't
> > go there now, you won't see that post because of a problem with
> > Blogger).  It's about the author's first training ride (on a Riv) with
> > some hardcore racers.  Cheers, Steve
>
> > On May 13, 9:55 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> >> On May 11, 6:13 pm, islaysteve  wrote:
>
> >> > I'm running the Niftys at the max.
> >> > pressure of 75 psi and they feel plenty comfy to me.
>
> >> yowsa!  niftys at 75psi feel like my 23mm 700c road tires at 100psi.
> >> and that's not an exaggeration.  running wider tires at max pressure
> >> defeats the purpose, in my opinion.
>
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[RBW] Wanted-8cm Tech. Del. stem

[SteveF]

I need a good-excellent condition (minimal marring preferred) 8cm
Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem, 26mm bar clamp, please.I still have
the 8cm short quill dirt drop stem to trade but having gotten no
takers, and having received an offer to buy the DD stem, I’d be
willing to buy a Tech Del now and sell the DD soon…

Thanks, Steve

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tan Handlebar Bag

[SteveF]

On May 27, 7:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The Duluth Pack web site's display of bike bags is very disconcerting.

There's a story there--briefly, they made bags for Rivendell (designed
by Rivendell) but the contract/partnership was dissolved.  Duluth
continues to make the bags and sell them under their own name but as
you observed, they don't seem to know much about them other than how
to make them...

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Hetres and SKS P45 fender clearence

[SteveF]

I'd probably go with the SKS P-50's for better wrap/coverage over
Hetres.  I have that combo on my 52cm, 650b-wheeled Quickbeam and I
wouldn't want to go narrower, personally.  If anything, I'd switch to
the newer P-55s.  (assuming they're actually that little bit wider and
not just re-badged P-50's-anyone know?)

Steve

On May 31, 5:57 pm, hobie  wrote:
> Hi all. I'm thinking of trying a pair of 650bx42cm Grand Bois Hetres.
> Has anyone tried the combination of Grand Bois Hetres 650bx42 with SKS
> P45 fenders on a 58cm Saluki? Is there enough tire clearence? The Riv
> site says the P45 fenders will work with the (Fatty Rumpkin 40- 41.5
> or so)  which is slightly smaller than the Hetres. Any help would be
> appreciated.

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[RBW] Re: I'm now OFFICIALLY a riv owner!

[SteveF]

Congrats!  Re-spacing 130mm Shimano hubs to fit 135 frames is pretty 
easy--my local shop switched axles for me for under $20. 

But if you want a set of MUSA shiny cassette hubs, get a set of White 
Industry's.  Nice hubs and one of the less expensive domestically produced 
boutique hubsets out there.  I have a set for my upcoming 650b custom and 
they look great.

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Re: RE: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[SteveF]

On Wednesday, July 6, 2011 8:37:55 AM UTC-4, Larry Powers wrote:
>
>  Fighting words!  The most beautiful paint job on a a bike is the original 
> Orange Rambouillet.  It was a unique and gorgeous shade of orange with a 
> cream head tube...   
>
>
Well, yeah-my Orange'bouillet is my favorite bike aesthetically though I've 
come to prefer my 650b bikes' performance and proportions.  Though I'd call 
the trim on the Rambly more white than cream, and a pretty stark white at 
that.

Looks good no matter how you call it.

Steve 

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[SteveF]

On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 1:31:47 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> Variations on this question have been asked before but now that there 
> are more Hunqas out there I thought it would not hurt to ask again. 
>
> So.  I am in the market for a touring/trail/commuting/tough bike.  I 
> have a 650B Terraferma that I use for randonneuring, paved and dirt 
> road riding, etc.  I love it.  But I really want a bike for everything 
> else, especially loaded touring--even if just for a night here and 
> there.  The Terraferma's not made for loads.  Someday I'll finish the 
> Great Divide--I rode the Montana section in 1998--and want a bike to 
> do it on. 
>
> The Atlantis has always been very appealing but the $500 difference b/ 
> w the two is, for me, significant.  $500 will go a long way building 
> up a Hunqa.  I am going to be visiting Riv later in the month and will 
> test both.  But thought I'd solicit some ideas, opinions, what-have- 
> you now. 
>
> Thanks and best wishes, 
>
> Christian


Well, I'd go by intended purpose.  If you want to do the divide trail, go 
with the Hunq for it's off-road leanings.  If you plan mainly paved touring, 
the Atlantis is worth considering.  The $500 price difference is worth 
considering, too, of course!  
(I'd want suspension for a Divide ride, myself--my Rivish leanings stop when 
the trail gets bumpy!) 

Steve

Steve  

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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne gearing

[SteveF]

 

I have A 17/19 Dos Enos on one side and 16t fixed cog on the other (on my 
650b Quickbeam) and 38/40 chainrings (double cranks so no guard)  I use the 
38/19 early in the season, or for recovery rides, on dirt roads/trails, in 
headwinds, or when I get tired.  I use the 40/17 when I’m feelin’ frisky or 
want to work harder/go faster.  I guess I shift at least once on most rides 
over 20 miles.  I haven’t used the 16t yet this year—I tend to alternate—I 
get into fixed riding and do it a lot or avoid it altogether…and I’m 
currently in avoid mode…

 

Steve

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[RBW] RAT ride next sunday, 7/17

[SteveF]

Any other listers heading for Northern Lower Michigan to do the RAT ride 
next sunday, the 17th?  

http://www.cherrycapitalcyclingclub.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=87045&module_id=93581

It's a good one!

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[stevef]

How much clearance do you have around those big tires?  I've been thinking 
about setting my Rambly up with fatter tires and no fenders-tempted by the 
new, suppler Pasela descendent Soma is offering.  (it's a 38mm tire)  Got a 
pic of your bike?
Thanks, Steve

On Monday, October 14, 2013 7:12:07 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Took my Ram out yesterday for a club ride. The 37mm Paselas felt great. 
> every time I get on the bike, I am surprised by how comfortable it is and 
> how well it handles. I've had it with 28mm Contis, but always go back to 
> fatter rubber.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 650b Roadeo

[stevef]

I didn't really think I could get a Roadeo done this way but it would be a 
cool bike.  Yeah, maybe a custom down the road...

Steve


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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone X0-1 on the Radavist

[stevef]

Too bad the author described it as a "touring bike," tho.


On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 7:37:02 PM UTC-4, Jack Doran wrote:
>
> Dig the drilled stem, orange Paul cable carrier and cream Rubinas. Proper!
>
> http://theradavist.com/2016/05/nathans-bridgestone-xo-1-touring-bike/#1
>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[stevef]

A NOS creamsicle Rambly?  Holy smokes, what a find.

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's a mystery to me as well. 
>
> I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need to 
> buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  
>
> Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 years 
> ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not seem 
> appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
> wanted to sell it. :0
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>> What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
>> barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 
>>
>> Great buy. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Mark's Rack Hardware

[SteveF]

This raises a question I've been ponderin' for a while.  Does Nitto
offer mini-rack style canti-mount struts for the Mark's rack?  I've
seen some made for the Campee rack but they're likely too short.
Here:

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=146_240&products_id=7978

Steve


On Jan 11, 11:29 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> The RBW web site has lots of useful information how to install a
> Mark's Rack. It has pictures which include all of the hardware the
> rack originally came with. And it has pictures of the rack installed
> in various ways.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mark-s-rack-nitto/20-108
>
> They also sell spares that you may need, including special Nitto
> vibration-resistant strut-attaching nuts/bolts/collars that I've never
> seen anywhere but from Nitto. Whether they have any in stock is always
> a question.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-rack-hardware/20-077http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-band-clamps/20-016
>
> The hardware is not particularly cheap. But the only things I've seen
> "ready-to-use" substitutes for in hardware stores are the normal-
> looking nuts/bolts/washers that connect the "diving board" to the rack
> platform and to the fork crown hole (all metric, which means not very
> common... and stainless metric is less so, though my local Ace has
> *some*) and the "band clamps", which are sometimes referred to as "P-
> clamps" (though even those are hard-ish to find in stainless steel).
>
> Hope this helps. It's not complicated when you're looking at
> everything. But I do find it complicated to talk about in the
> abstract.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Jan 10, 8:33 pm, Jon Flaxman  wrote:
>
> > Greetings all from snowy Arkansas (!)
>
> > The PO of my new-to-me Canti-Rom didn't pack the loose parts carefully and 
> > as such, I am now missing the mounting screws for the Mark's Rack.
>
> > Anyone gave some spare parts hanging around, or know of the Home Depot 
> > alternatives? I'm at a disadvantage, as I've never seen one if these racks 
> > so I'm not sure what all is missing. I just know that I have a rack and no 
> > nuts or spacers or whatever.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Sent from my iPhone

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[RBW] Re: Pasela sidewall failure: Damage or manufacturing defect?

[SteveF]

I've owned lots of Paselas over the years and only had sidewall
trouble with one, a 700/28 Tourguard folding that I bought a couple of
summers ago.  It immediately developed a bulge that grew over the
course of a 70 or so mile ride.  I was able to exchange it as
defective though, and the replacement (same model/size) was fine...

...so you might try exchanging your bulged tire for a new one.

Steve

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[RBW] Pasela options

[SteveF]

Anyone had an opportunity to compare the new hypertex casing that's
being offered in Soma's version of the Pasela with the standard and
tourguard Pasela, both for ride quality and actual width/size?  (I'm
thinking that, since the new 650b version is narrower with the
hypetex, that the 700c version might be as well)

I'm hoping it rides similarly to the standard Pasela with the flat
protection of the tourguard and maybe offers a perfect size for my
Rambouillet with fenders... B-)  I'd just go with the 32 but if it's a
couple of mm's narrower than marked, I might be able to squeeze the 35
in there.

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[RBW] Tour pics.

[SteveF]

Hi folks!  I did a supported tour put on annually by my local cycling
club a couple of weeks ago--it was fun, good weather, friendly folks.
Didn't even have any unpleasantness from drivers.  Here's some pics if
you're interested:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/sets/72157621799616518/

And a description of the tour:

http://www.biketcba.org/tours/summertour/summertour2k.html

It was a challenge for me on a few levels.  The mileage wasn't bad,
certainly enough to test my fitness, though.  And on a personal level,
it was the first such tour I've done since 1993, when I got quite sick
on a similar tour and suffered through a lot of rainy days and
nights.   I ended up abandoning on the last day that trip, and haven't
done such a ride since until now.

I also am not an outgoing, social person by nature, so it was a
challenge to put myself out there as it were, even with a group of
like minded folks some of whom I already knew to one degree or
another.  The first night was tough, I cruised around the campground
several times looking for a spot near someone I knew and finally was
invited by a fellow to take a small space next to his group.  He ended
up being a fellow I'd corresponded with a bit about the tour, and I
hit it off well enough with him and his friends that I camped with
them the remainder of the trip!

I took my orange Rambouillet on this trip and saw another just like it
for the first time ever since I bought the thing!  It was fun talking
with Dave about our orange beauties, (are you on this list, Dave?)
and it led to a funny moment sightseeing in Manistee the 4th day--I
rode my Rambly into town from the campground in street clothes to look
around and get a bite.  A friend of Dave saw me rummaging through my
saddlebag for my lock and was sure I was stealing his friend's bike!
It took some discussion, a display of my tour wristband and a
demonstration that I knew the lock combination before he agreed not to
call the cops.  He was pretty sheepish about it in camp later, but I
told him that Dave owed him a beer for being such a good friend, and
there were no hard feelings on my part.

I bought a clickstand (www.clickstand.com) for the tour and it worked
very well.  The owner kindly rushed it so I'd have it in time for the
tour and it's a well made, and useful product.  I recommend it, and
I'm pretty sure I sold a few for him on the tour.  It garnered a fair
bit of interest from other riders.

A practical bunch--lots of reasonably well thought out bikes for such
riding.  Not many fenders, but fortunately we didn't end up needing
them.

Hope you enjoy the pics,

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Re: Front Rack Bag on Romulus

[stevef]

Rivs EXCEL with a balanced load.  Put stuff front and rear (weightier items 
probably better in back) and you'll be fine.  The best setup in my 
experience, is a Hobo style bar bag that keeps weight close to the steering 
axis combined with a saddle bag in back.  Here's a pic of such a setup on 
my Saluki--I've used the exact same setup on my Rambouillet (28-32mm tires) 
and had no trouble with it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/4300021077/

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot build kit for sale

[stevef]

Sold a few items--reduced prices below for the remaining goods...
 
Sugino XD Crankset, (170mm arms, 26/36/48 rings, some shoe rub on ND arm) 
crank bolts included. $75 shipped.  

Shimano UN-73 (XT level) 68X107/110 (have to double check spindle 
length-worked fine with above cranks on Bleriot) bottom bracket, very low 
miles.  $20 shipped.

11-28 Shimano Hyperglide 8 speed cassette+SRAM chain $20 shipped.

Package prices:

$90 shipped for cranks and BB together, 

$100 for cranks with BB, cassette and chain.  



9 speed Shimano 105 triple derailers, all silver, excellent condition, $40 
shipped.



Tektro 556R long reach brake calipers, practically new w/Salmon 
inserts--$55 shipped.

Shimano SLR brake levers, very good condition, a couple of light scuffs on 
the blades, hoods excellent-$35 shipped.

Calipers and levers together:  $80 shipped.

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Nitto Technomic stem, long quill, 5cm extension--there's more insertion 
marks on the quill than I first noticed so it's a user not a looker. $30 
shipped,  $25 with any other purchase.

Offers considered.

Thanks,

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Re: Cream longboards on an orange Rambouillet?

[stevef]

Thanks, folks--looks like silver is the way to go for this application...

Steve

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[RBW] Possibly in the market for a 61-62cm frame/bike

[stevef]

Been riding with a guy this spring-nice fella.  He's on an aluminum frame 
that's too small for him and I've been talkin' him around to a Riv or 
Riv-like set up.  He'd fit a 61-62 frame, Riv-sizing-wise.  Anyone have one 
or know of one that's for sale?  Frame/fork/headset preferred, more or less 
than that considered...

Thanks!  Steve

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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

[stevef]

I've tried quite a few options but the best I've found is Fizik brand gel 
pads.  It's just the right density, not too firm, not too squishy, it's 
trim-able to customize fit, and removable for re-use.  If you want to add 
some cush to your bars, I think this is the stuff to use.

Steve  

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:42:46 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
> I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see 
> are super chunky.
> Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
> Thanks for any tips.
>

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[RBW] Re: Fender install on Riv

[stevef]

Sidepull brakes, right?  Older Riv (most all bike/brands actually) road 
bikes were limited by the short reach calipers of that era.  I doubt you'd 
be able to fit much more than a 25mm tire and 35mm fender.  And it is 
probably not optimized for fender installation (chain/seat stay bridge 
positioning and drilling for example) like newer models.  If you want to 
fit a fatter tire (and wider fender) a  650b conversion would be your best 
bet.  (assuming you have 700c wheels now)

Steve

On Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:18:41 PM UTC-4, Matt S wrote:
>
> I'm new to the group and apologize in advance if this topic has already 
> been beaten to death but I'm starting to run out of patience...
>
> I recently bought my wife a 54cm ca. 1995 Rivendell. I'm in the process of 
> installing some 40mm Tanaka alloy fenders and I am battling with the 
> minimal clearance for fenders offered on the bike. I'm using 28mm Gran Bois 
> Cerf tires. I bought some River City Reacharounds as there simply isn't 
> enough clearance on the rear so I needed to cut the fenders. Looks like the 
> front will also need to be cut. Not enough room for a crown daruma.
>
> The rear fender is pretty much in place but the fender line is funky. I'd 
> love to hear other folk's solutions. Thanks in advance.
>

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[RBW] Re: Alba bar-reach

[stevef]

I wonder if your saddle is tilted nose-down a bit?  That would make you 
feel thrown forward onto the bars and put pressure on your hands and arms.  

On Monday, July 15, 2013 11:55:00 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> YES-that is exactly how I feel: extended. I am reluctant to change the 
> hardware, however, because prior to messing around with the saddle, it was 
> perfect. I just can't seem to find that sweet spot, though. I suppose I 
> could try sliding the saddle forward on the rails again, but I actually 
> love the saddle position I have now...it's really just my arms that bother 
> me. I'm scared of moving the saddle again and not being able to get it at 
> all comfortable.
>
> What should I do? 
>

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[RBW] Re: 7/19 BLUG broken Sam

[stevef]

Yeah, scary pic.  I wonder if the stick or whatever actually got stuck in 
the spokes rather than under the fender?  

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:36:37 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
>
> I may be naive, but just can't see how a *stick* could do such damage.  I 
> haven't had the displeasure, but imagine it going something like...  stick 
> gets sucked, front wheel locks, rapid deceleration, rider over bars and the 
> bike probably leaves the ground relieving the force on the fork.  Perhaps 
> the extensive fork damage is the result of a post-stick, high speed impact?
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field

[stevef]

Surly measures center to top, but the seat tube extends past the toptube a 
bit.  You can kindof see what I mean in this geometry diagram:

http://surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check_ss/geometry

Pre-cutting a steel steerer (unlike a carbon fiber one that has a maximum 
recommended number of spacers from the manufacturer) is nearly criminal, 
IMO.

Steve  

On Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:47:00 AM UTC-4, EricP wrote:
>
> Actually, it sounds to me like everyone knew what they were doing.  I've 
> owned a number of Surly bikes over the years.  The first one, a Cross 
> Check, was 62cm.  Realized after about 2 months I'd never get comfortable 
> with the handlebars so far away.  Ended up putting Albatross bars on that 
> bike and was able to ride it for a while.  Still, it ended up being too 
> big.  
>
> Surly bikes seem to have a longer top tube and reach than a comparable 
> Rivendell.  They also measure bikes differently than Rivendell.  Center to 
> center, as opposed to center to top.
>  
> My 62cm Rivendell SimpleOne has roughly the same amount of seatpost 
> showing as my 58cm Long Haul Trucker.  When it was built up, my 58cm Cross 
> Check had even less post showing.
>  
> The only thing I'd fault the shop on is cutting the steerer tube before 
> selling the bike.  
>  
> Glad it worked out for everyone.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Michael Hechmer 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Size Matters.  And not just in the bike.  My experience has been that the 
>> larger the shop the smaller the level of knowledge.  There are of course 
>> exceptions to this, e.g. Harris Cyclery.  But most often very large bike 
>> shops survive by hiring college age guys, usually steeped in racing, to 
>> push  a hi volume of Treks, Cannondales, Specialized, etc out the door. 
>>  One rainy Sunday afternoon I browsed through a large local bike shop and 
>> watched a middle age women tell a very young sales clerk she wanted a bike 
>> to ride on "paths".  He steered her to a full suspension mt. bike! 
>>  Yesterday the latest issue of Buycycle magazine arrived (uninvited) into 
>> my home.  The cover headline was "Have More Fun" and pictured a man riding 
>> in shorts and a polo shirt,  but the bike had 16 spoke radial wheels, road 
>> pedals, and bars about 6" below the seat.  It didn't look like fun; it 
>> looked silly.
>>
>> Moral of the story - Newbies shouldn't buy solo.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:02:48 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote:
>>
>>> My friend was in the market for a new bicycle with a budget of around 
>>> $800.00.  He'd looked at various aluminum mountain bikes and talked to me 
>>> about it - he'd mentioned that he'd possibly like a single speed.  I 
>>> suggested he check out the Surly line of bikes and maybe push his budget a 
>>> little and get something he'd really enjoy.  Being a Rivendell owner 
>>> (recent acquisition) and having followed this list and GP's writings for 
>>> the last few years, I have certain ideas about bicycle fit.  Not being a 
>>> crotch-worrier, I like to start with the largest straddle-able frame and 
>>> work from there.  A fist-full of seat post, bars around saddle height etc. 
>>>  Using this formula as a starting basis, I urged my friend to try a 62cm 
>>> Crosscheck (a single speed).  He loved it.  The store was adamant that a 
>>> 58cm was he needed, with the saddle jacked up a good two fist-fulls and the 
>>> bars well below the saddle height, because "that's where the power is".  My 
>>> friend test rode the 58, the 60 and then the 62cm and there was no way he 
>>> was going back.  The steerer tubes on all sizes had been cut quite low, but 
>>> on the 62cm, the set-up worked perfectly for my friend. The mechanic was 
>>> not happy about this and I was the unwelcome "expert-friend", even though 
>>> they made the sale and my friend rode out the store on his new bike.  The 
>>> one he wanted.
>>>
>>> I suppose we all get locked into ideas and philosophies, but without my 
>>> input (as right or wrong as it may be), they would have sized him by 
>>> putting the saddle height above his hip bone and made the bars a few inches 
>>> below saddle height.  This was their fitting method.  At the end of the 
>>> day, my friend is delighted - he exceeded his budget by $175 and got a very 
>>> pretty bicycle that has clearance for 700 x 45 with fenders. Even with my 
>>> pretty LL there, I was jealous of his purchase.  The shop had never heard 
>>> of Rivendell, which made me wonder just how small a corner of the bike 
>>> world I must live in, hanging out here on the RBW list.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: New blug question

[stevef]

Heh, yeah-I thought that descent at around 2:40 must've been so fast that 
the wind blew to cap off one of them beers...

On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:21:08 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Did you spot the easter egg of a mid-ride drink? Cheers! :)
>
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2013 5:29:04 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote:
>>
>> First off, really like the video.  Does a great job of showing how a 
>> person can ride knowing the route like the back of a hand.  Although will 
>> admit to being shocked (shocked, I say) that the bike actually has drop 
>> bars.  On a Rivendell?  These days?
>>  
>> But the question - who is performing the music?  Really like the song.
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Product placement coup by Riv in Consumer Reports review of Ford Transit Connect van

[stevef]

I took a pretty hard look at the commercial (no back seats) version of this 
for bike hauling duties last spring.  It's a really practical package for 
such things.  But it was terribly noisy with that big, unfinished box right 
behind you, and not very comfortable or luxurious.  I'm approaching 
retirement and I want my next vehicle (which may well be my last new 
vehicle) to be both a good bike hauler and luxurious and comfortable and, 
well, nice.  So I decided to pass on the Transit Connect Van in favor of a 
2015 luxed-up GMC Canyon with a camper shell.  It's a bit more money and 
not quite as economical but I sure like the ones I've test driven!

...Tom, the guy in this CR video review is a cyclist for sure.  He's 
mentioned mountain biking several times in other videos, and I wouldn't be 
a bit surprised if that Atlantis were his...

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:43:18 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote:
>
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/video/ford-transit-connect-2014-2015-154141113.html
>
> Could not quite believe I was seeing an Atlantis? with mustache in the 
> back of this van. Am I seeing things?
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv handlebars and back pain-your experience?

[stevef]

I had lower back pain from having my saddle too far back.  Moving closer to 
KOPS helped--it may not work for everyone but it seems to work for me...

Steve 

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 2:56:57 PM UTC-5, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Hello All...Thought I would share this, as I'm sure I'm not the only 
> "mature" cyclist with intermittent low back pain.  I have a small disc 
> herniation at L4-L5 level that protrudes posteriorly and compresses the 
> nerve root as it exits the vertebral column.  My first response was, well 
> Grant was right, now I have to be more upright on the bike.  Not a problem 
> for a chronic cockpit changer like me, anyway...is there a bar I haven't 
> tried? Doubt it.
>
> So I put Albatross bars on the Ram, also tried porter bars on another 
> bike, experimenting with various bar heights as well.  THIS MADE THINGS 
> WORSE!  I went to moustache and albastache bars, with a shorter stem, bars 
> level with the seat, and did much better.  The neurologist explained it: 
> with your back bent forward at a gentle angle, 45 degree angle of trunk to 
> horizontal, the vertebral column is bent in a way that opens up the 
> posterior (back) aspect of the column and helps to relieve the compression 
> of the nerve root.  An upright posture is more like a series of blocks one 
> on top of another and all the force is directed straight down, compressing 
> things further.
>
> I realize this scenario is specific to my particular anatomy but I'm 
> curious to hear about others' experiences with this issue.  How has your 
> riding changed as Father Time marches on?
>
> Alan
>

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[RBW] Re: Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?

[stevef]

If you can make it work, the ride around Crater Lake is pretty neat...

On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:46:59 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> So I've mentioned in other posts that I plan to ride the Oregon Outback 
> this year, May 22-24. As luck would have it, I've managed to secure the 
> full week prior off from work, as well as a day or two after. So now I'm 
> looking to fly out to Portland on May 16th, and leave on the 26th. That's 
> lots of time for riding!
>
> My friends will be landing in Portland on May 20th and plan to take the 
> train to Klamath Falls on the 21st, which I'll accompany them on. We'll 
> ride the O.O., then ride from the finish back to Portland on the 25th and 
> fly home the next morning. 
>
> So that leaves me with May 16th (afternoon) to the evening of May 20 to do 
> some touring. 
>
> For those in Oregon, what would you suggest I ride with five days? 
>
> For what it's worth, I would love to be able to...:
> - See/camp by the ocean. I live in the dead centre of the continent. The 
> ocean is a real treat for me.
> - Get at least a couple nice climbs in. Again, it's flat here. I'd like to 
> see some elevation (but not 'too' much hah, I'm a prairie boy)
> - Spend as much time as possible off the major highways. I'll be on the 
> Atlantis with 2.1" tires and a light setup. Gravel, trails, fire roads, 
> whatever. I'm game for all of that. I'll have a GPS with me.
> - I also love bridges and ferries. Always take the opportunity to ride a 
> ferry if you can. It just adds that 'certain something' to a trip in my 
> opinion.
>
> I've considered riding to Astoria and doing a Northern loop. Also thought 
> about taking the train South on the 16th, riding closer to Klamath and 
> meeting the guys there instead. It's all open to discussion. Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: Prayers for all effected by violence

[stevef]

"If?"  This thread should've never been started.

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 10:10:47 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Och! Kids, kids, kids, kids, kids.
>
> 1. Prayer in no way excludes action. Quite the opposite. It inherently 
> leads to better action.
> 2. This is not the place to discuss what that action should be. Please 
> don't.
>
> Feel free to put this thread out of our misery if it needs it, Jim.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Kid Clemmin' & The Morally Indignant Motorist

[stevef]

Even good advice offered in a friendly fashion sounds abusive when it 
hollered from a passing car.  It happens less often around here these days 
than it used to, but it still happens once in a while.  Shrug it off and 
keep ridin'...

Steve

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 4:15:54 PM UTC-4, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
> Yesterday I had a pleasant day with the family, with the exception of 
> having the pleasure of being heckled/scolded/yelled at for the first time 
> in years while riding a bicycle in public... while riding with our 14month 
> old son... because I was riding with my 14month old son.
>
> We decided to take our son apple picking at a nearby orchard only 2 miles 
> away.  The majority of the route cuts through a network of parks and 
> multiuse trails in preserved farmland/meadows but does require some 
> pavement (along two different 2 lane roads.)  Naturally, being cyclists and 
> having bikes and gear suitable for carrying a few extra pounds of flesh and 
> produce we decided to keep the car parked for the day and take the scenic 
> route and make an afternoon of it considering the close proximity, familiar 
> route, and favorable weather.
>
> The off pavement portion is on multiuse paths to which we directly connect 
> through a park at the back of our neighborhood.  Part of the trail runs 
> parallel to one of the paved roads we'll need to double-back on to ride 
> for 1000 to 2000ft before turning onto the intersecting road on 
> which the orchard is located a mile further down.
>
> En route to the farm, during that first 1000-2000ft straight paved 
> section, is where we encountered the indignant motorist.  The road is an 
> old 2-lane farm road and admittedly not ideal for cycling with an 
> insufficient shoulder and drainage ditches on either side, but not very 
> heavily trafficked.  We entered the road with a right hand turn at the 
> nearest crossing, my son and I out front with my wife trailing a couple 
> hundred feet or so behind.  As we were nearing the left turn I glance back 
> and see a vehicle approaching from a slight distance back behind my 
> wife but with lots of space still between us (and the vehicle) and the 
> intersection almost upon us I deliberately signal our turn and begin to 
> take the lane for the final 50yds or so.  As we complete our turn and begin 
> to head into the last mile on the even less trafficked 2 lane 
> residential/rural road the driver proceeds to yell "...something something 
> something... with an f#$%!ng child you f#$%!ng a-hole!" just as he floors 
> the gas to accelerate and regain his desired mph.
>
> There was nothing confrontational about the situation otherwise... we were 
> never even close enough to make eye contact, the driver never attempted to 
> pass aggressively or do anything to otherwise put us in harms way, nor did 
> I make any abrupt or sudden movements, etc.  This was the first vehicle to 
> encounter us heading in the same direction for the entire short stretch and 
> I made what I felt was the safest and most reasonable decision after 
> surveying our surroundings by taking the lane and swiftly turning off the 
> busier of the two roads while we had the space and timing to safely do so.
>
> Our child's safety is something we certainly do not take lightly.  I could 
> sympathize with concern over the general element of risk of cycling on 
> today's roads, and yes, this same risk clearly extends to my child 
> passenger but apparently this person was so deeply offended enough by our 
> actions of simply cycling with a toddler that they felt the need to erupt 
> into an outburst of anger as they sped past... the irony of which is that 
> in their final moment within our limited interaction they did nothing more 
> than demonstrate the exact kind of driving behavior that puts all 
> cyclists/pedestrians/motorists at risk (distracted/aggressive/etc.) and 
> would jeopardize the safety of the child they seemed so concerned about in 
> the first place.
>
> It could be that I'm a little overly sensitive still being a new parent, 
> and new to family cycling, and maybe the amount of time that's lapsed 
> between prior conflicts with motorists has re-sensitized me to an extent 
> (several years ago I'd expect nothing less from most drivers, just sans the 
> "child" part) but I've had this brief moment nagging me a bit this morning 
> and curious to know what others have experienced in terms of cycling with 
> kids and overly opinionated motorists, etc.?
>
> I recall reading of others who bike often with children, or incorporate it 
> much more into daily life... sometimes dropping off and picking up kids at 
> school, etc.  Many of our local roads are less than desirable (same reasons 
> noted above: insufficient shoulders, mostly) and many I've already ruled 
> out for riding with our son and until this weekend all rides have been 
> contained almost exclusively to our local park/trail system and rides into 
> our small downtown

[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour

[stevef]

If it were me, I'd opt for the Cascade route over the coastal route.  Lower 
traffic, less development and, well-I'm more of a mountain view guy than an 
ocean view guy but that's just me...

Good luck, Steve

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-4, Kip Otteson wrote:
>
> My wife requested that we do a bike tour this upcoming summer.  This is a 
> pretty rare request and when she mentioned it I jumped at the chance.  I'm 
> planning on riding the Pacific Coast route as laid out by Adventure 
> Cycling.  We are not doing the whole trip, but are going to be riding from 
> Southern Oregon and will be ending up in the OC.  The crew will be me, my 
> wife, and two kids, daughter (12) and son (15).  We have ridden a few tours 
> in SE Asia but nothing this long.  Not remotely.  I'll be on my Bombadil, 
> my wife on her Heron, and my son on a Surly Pack Rat, daughter on an 86' 
> Panasonic Mountain Cat 4500.  We plan on being on the road from the 10th of 
> June till around the middle of July.  We are both school teachers so this 
> is doable as far as work is concerned.  Being teachers, we are on a budget 
> and plan on camping as much as we can.  We have used Warm Showers in the 
> past and are hosts.  That is a great deal, for sure. 
>
> I'm looking for any suggestions from folks that have done this.  Good 
> places to camp, words of advice on road conditions, etc.   
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kip 
>

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[stevef]

I enjoy my Rambouillet too much to weight it.


On Sunday, August 3, 2014 at 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
> frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
> weigh.
>  
> Would be informative to know:
> 1. Model
> 2. Framesize
> 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
> (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
> dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
> bags/bottles on board, please).
> 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
> everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
> expected.
>  
> I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
> So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
>  
> And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
> Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
> a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Thomson Elite Seatpost -- 26.8 -- with New Sam H.: Seems... Small...?

[stevef]

A couple of things that have helped me in the past with slightly small 
posts:  Use no-slip instead of grease or use very VERY little grease, 
especially where the seatpost clamp is.  On one post that wouldn't stop 
slipping no matter what I put a piece of clear vinyl framesaver/helicopter 
tape where the seat post was clamped.  I quit slipping and also made it 
easier to tell if it slipped a little.  I used a piece that was about 3"  
vertically, 1-2" wide.

Steve

On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 11:44:36 AM UTC-4, Michael Doleman wrote:
>
> Just wanted to get some advice, here.
>
> I am building my new Sam Hillborne, which takes a 26.8 seatpost. For the 
> size of frame I use, unless I get a ridiculously short stem (like, 6cm), I 
> need a zero-setback seatpost. Especially if I want there to be space behind 
> the saddle to use my Carradice Bagman uplift. I tend to like the feel of a 
> zero-setback post, anyway, though.
>
> The only really nice, zero-setback post that I know of, in a 26.8 size, is 
> Thomson, so that's what I got. It looks great on the bike, but -- man -- 
> does it ever seem a bit narrow in diameter. I can tighten it down such that 
> it does, indeed, seem to be properly static in the slot, but I *really* 
> have to tighten the bolt down hard. Enough so that I'm slightly worried 
> about it and wanted to know if anyone else has had similar experiences with 
> Thomson posts. I can almost imagine that sizing-up, to a 27.0, might 
> actually work, but then I'd be worried about it getting hopelessly stuck.
>
> Maybe I shouldn't worry, I guess. All things being equal, I think I'd 
> rather have a seatpost that's a little too tight than a little too snug.
>
> Anyone have any words of advice and/or reassurance?
>

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[RBW] Re: Other annoying threads

[stevef]

Heh, I'm 55-everything irritates me.  But, in no particular order, I hate 
mtbers who rip on roadies for being arrogant, stuck up, etc.  There's 
plenty of stuck up mtb'ers too-it's an attitude not a riding style.  I hate 
lycra wise cracks.  It's athletic apparel, of course it looks better on 
athletic people, but if you're gonna ride more than a couple of hours, 
chances are you'll be more comfortable in some sort of riding shorts.  I 
hate it when there's a thread about someone who was hit when cycling on the 
road and someone  inevitably has to post something along the lines of 
"that's why I don't ride on the road anymore-it's too dangerous."  Living 
your life is dangerous-you get to choose how to live it and you must accept 
the risk.  Plus I don't think it's respectful for the victim or others who 
love to ride and will continue to.  I REALLY hate the inevitable "when 
bikers quit breaking laws I'll respect their rights to the road," comment.  
First off, everyone breaks traffic laws.  Secondly, no you won't, you'll 
just find another reason to dismiss cyclists rights.  I could go on and on 
and on.  And on.  I should try to be less of an old crank-old cranks really 
irritate me!

Steve  

On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:17:25 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Since the non-political thread seems to be so irritating to people, what 
> other bike related topics do you find irritating?
>
> For me it's old parts that provide no real benefit over new parts, but 
> it's supposed to be awesome.  I mean sometimes the old stuff is great.  I 
> miss shiny silver parts.
>
> But the next person who tells me that a 7 speed freewheel is the bees 
> knees, well, they can bite me.
>
> signed 
> MOAR GEASR!
>
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[RBW] Re: Design your custom

[stevef]

650b Roadeo.  Easy as that!

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:39:53 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> All this talk of Rivs you'd buy if Grant/Riv made it got me to thinking of 
> what my custom-I'll-probably-never-order would be. This is isn't outside 
> the parameters of what they currently build - no Hunqadiscers or F Frames 
> or cargo bikes - but a custom you can order from Mark Nobilette via Riv 
> today. Here's mine:
>
> I'd like something similar to the original Rivendell Mountain, now with 
> 650B wheels. All the fancy lugs and Joe Bell paint, Candy Apple Red. It'd 
> be a bit of a Suntour celebration with XC Pro cranks, derailers and cantis, 
> but with modern Shimano hubs, 8-speed cassette and Silver 2 shifters. Some 
> kinda retro brake levers from the CNC era, preferably with some red 
> anodizing. Bars are a tossup between original Riv Bullmoose and Nitto 
> Jitensha. Boy, now that I've typed this up it sounds like a really nice 
> bike! Your turn. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Cracked Rim & Safety

[stevef]

Kind of a causality paradox since this crack was most likely caused by wear 
of the brake surface.  Disc brakes don't cause that sort of wear.

On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-5, Patrick Cronin wrote:
>
>
> After riding a bulging 40-spoke Velocity Dyad rim on my Hunqapillar for 
> too long it finally cracked. The only way I knew about the bulge is because 
> once per rotation the wheel rubbed *both* brake pads. The wheel was never 
> out of true, so I kept riding it ~1000 miles. I decided to rebuild the 
> wheel only because I hit a sand/salt patch on the road, skidded about ten 
> feet when the rim hit the brake pads and I nearly went down. Most notable 
> is that I never flatted, as in not once since this wheel was built in 2011. 
> I'm curious if I would have known about the issue had I been running disc 
> brakes. That got me thinking more: I wonder if rim brakes are safer for 
> this reason. Had I been running discs I likely would have had a 
> catastrophic rim failure because, other than cosmetic, there would have 
> been no indication of a problem. Thoughts?
>
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[stevef]

Glad to see Grant's email that things worked out better than he expected.  
Just curious-anyone know who "BT Brian," is?

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[RBW] Gravelish chainring, tires for sale.

[stevef]

Crosspost with apologies from the iBob list.  

I have a couple things I'd like to rehome.

Absolute Black 2X oval cyclocross chainring. 36 tooth, 5X110 bolt circle. 
Low miles, just enough to put a shine the teeth. Shifts well, and climbing 
performance is noticeably if subtley enhanced, but I don't like the oval 
feel on my allroad bike as much as on my mtb. (LOVE it on the mtb!)  $30

Two Panaracer Gravelking SK 650bX48 tires, only used on a couple of rides. 
They have a little sealant residue and a little dirt but are practically 
new. $50 for the pair.


Plus a few bucks for shipping.  Or make an offer.   Pics here:  
https://photos.app.goo.gl/v2PLoT6EouasTMuJ7

Thanks, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Carrying Water on bikes w/ minimal bottle cage mounts

[stevef]

For larger bottle:  https://widefoot.com/product/litercage/

To carry more regular bottles:  
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/accessories/products/b-rad-double-bottle-cage-adapter

Drink up!

Steve

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 7:58:22 AM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> How do you carry multiple bottles or larger bottles (32 oz) on bikes w/ 
> minimal cage mounts?  Clem L as an example.
>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

[stevef]

If your old Blackburn failed-take it to a shop and exchange it-they have a 
lifetime warranty.  I'd have one mini and one floor pump replaced no 
questions asked, both years old.  Just handed them to my shop guy and he 
handed me a new one off the rack.  

If you just need or want another pump, I'd recommend another 
Blackburn--with the warranty, you'll never need to buy another.  Unless you 
want to...B-)

Steve

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:30:56 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> *Its been a while since I bought a frame pump.*
> *I'm looking for a short one that fills the tires fast and works every 
> time and*
> *that can be mounted at the bottle cage like my old Blackburn Mamouth.*
> *With a torn rotator cuff the short pumps are easier for me to operate 
> than say a long Zephal.*
> *Thanks in advance.*
> *Jon*
>

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[stevef]

Anyone else wish they'd do 650b Rodeos at least as an option in smaller 
sizes?

On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:07:55 PM UTC-5, Matt Rhodes wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Just a heads up that an updated geometry chart has been posted on the new 
> site, including all the details on 650b Atlantae and Hunqs. Check 'em out 
> here .
>
> Cheers,
> Matt 
>

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[stevef]

>
> Here's the bike with the fattys on 
> it.
>
>
>
That's a beautiful bike for sure!  Nice metallic color.  I'm a fan of Fizik 
Microtex bartape, usually over their gel pads and there are a couple of 
metallic colors that would look fantastic on that bike.  Try the metal red 
or blue, or maybe the light blue.  Or go understated with one of the 
European market-only browns?  

http://www.fizik.com/accessories/bartapes/Bar-Tape/

Steve 

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[RBW] Re: Rivs and Disc Brakes

[stevef]

I hope not!

On Friday, May 8, 2015 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard any rumors about a future Riv being introduced with disc 
> brakes?  
>
> Steve Cole
> Arlington, Virginia
>

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[RBW] Re: Ram/Rom/Red 650b Conversions.

[stevef]

An older Riv (or similar brand) built around short reach sidepulls would be 
a better choice, I think.  Think Heron Road or Riv Road Standard.  
Rambouillets and the like are just such fine machines with 700c wheels I've 
never considered such a conversion.  (My orange Ram is my last 700c bike 
and so it will remain.)

Steve 

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 1:57:56 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> After pondering how to get a decent 650b road bike built up to ride, the 
> most obvious solution evaded me all week until last night I realized I 
> should convert my Redwood to 650b and try and fit 42mm tires and fenders.
> I think what's kept me from doing this is the 77mm drop, though I did just 
> fine with a Trek conversion with 72mm drop and traditional pedals. If I run 
> VP-001s (Thin Gripsters) that's basically makes up for the difference in 
> drop and eases concerns about pedal strike.
> I've checked archives here and there was at least a couple conversions of 
> a Ram. 
> I have long reach Tektros, Koolstop thinline brakes, and have no issue 
> filing brake slots if need be. I believe I have all the necessary parts 
> needed and it really (hopefully!) will just be an easy swap of brakes and 
> wheels.
> Anyone else converted a Rambouillet/Romulus/Redwood to 650b? Impressions? 
> Advice?
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] Re: Tell me about V-brakes

[stevef]

I sure wouldn't use Canti's again if I could possibly avoid it.  V's work 
better, (or more accurately, are easier to make work well consistently) are 
easier to set up and require less hardware.  Just remember to match them to 
levers with the appropriate cable pull ratio.


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[RBW] Re: Do I need tire fatter than 650B x 42?

[stevef]

You'd be better off choosing tires based on your needs, then picking the 
fenders that suit them.  42's would be fine for mainly paved and smoothish 
dirt routes.  Bigger would be advantageous if you'll ride more and rougher 
dirt routes...

Steve

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 4:10:25 PM UTC-4, Ash A wrote:
>
> Trying to make up my mind as to whether I should buy P50 fender or P55.  
>
> I like P50 much better in terms of fit and looks. 
>
> Seems like 650B x 42 is the widest tire I can go if I install P50, so  I 
> bought a pair of Pari Moto 650b x 42.
>
> Before I commit to P50 I wanted to ask the experts here if I should keep 
> an option open for wider tires and go with P55.
>
> If wider than 42mm would mean much higher peddling effort, I'm unlikely to 
> ever go beyond 42.
>
> Also, if anyone interested in selling a used 650B fat tire for cheap, I'll 
> buy it, rider around and compare it to Pari Moto 42 before ordering the 
> fender.
>
> Btw, bike in question is 51cm Appa.
>

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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[stevef]

If anything, owning such a nice looking orange bike (Rambouillet) has made 
me a bigger fan of the color.  I seek/admire other orange bikes and have 
orange and orange trimmed gear (jersey, helmet, etc)  

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions on 
> this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you find 
> yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
> colors? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area

[stevef]

What dates are we talking?  I'm not too far away from there to join in if 
it becomes a group thang...

Steve, East Lansing, MI

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:16:01 AM UTC-4, Call Me Jay wrote:
>
> Is it worth hauling one of Rivs 14 hours to ride out there?  I'm visiting 
> my in-laws.  Any good rides to recommend on pavement or dirt roads? 
>

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[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel

[stevef]

I think Nibali was attacking for a podium position and thus didn't feel as 
though it was an unsportsmanlike attack on Froome (who had too much time on 
him to realistically be a target)  Just an assumption on my part, though.  

I too watch the tour mainly for the scenery--what amazing views!  Once 
drones replace choppers it'll be even better I'll bet.  B-)

And swapping bikes due to a mechanical is one thing but when they swap one 
working bike for another, say lighter one, for a climbing section, that 
seems a bit much...

Steve

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[RBW] Re: X01 on Ebay

[SteveF]

It's sold for the BIN price so someone thought it was worth it.  I've
seen them go for more, FWIW--over $2k.  I figure by the time I'm ready
to retire mine will be worth enough to make up for my poor savings
habit...

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[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

[SteveF]

I currently own three Rivs (a Heron Road, a Rambouillet and a
Quickbeam) and I'd have a hard time parting with any of them.  Having
said that, I did recently sell my Saluki in favor of a similar custom,
with the geometry tweaked more to my preferences.

Every new Riv model seems to get a 1/2 degree slacker seat tube angle
than the last.  (excepting sporting models like the Roadeo*)  This
works well for lots of folks, especially them that use a Brooks
saddle.  However, since I don't use a Brooks and I tend to run my
saddle a good bit further forward than many Rivvers (as recommended in
a professional fitting I had done a couple of years ago.)  this
progression has made it tough for me to get comfortable on most of
Rivs current models.

The stock models also seem to have gradually gotten a bit beefier
which makes them feel a little dead to me, a 150 pound high-cadence
spinner.

I loved my Saluki but even with my saddle shoved all the way forward
on a zero set-back Thompson seatpost, it wasn't really working for
me.  My custom replacement will have a somewhat lighter tubeset and a
steeper seattube.  The front end geometry is lifted more or less
intact from my 650b Quickbeam (which shares it's geometry largely with
the Rambouillet as I recall)  I hope it'll ride and handle much like
my older Rivs, with the cush and all road capability that I've come to
appreciate from the fat 650b tires that fit my Saluki.  (I literally
handed the builder a set of 650b wheels with Hetres mounted and a pair
of fenders to fit them and said "build it around these.")

I also like suspension on my mountain bikes so I'll probably never own
a Riv trail bike...

*If the Roadeo wasn't a  near spot on blend of my two 700c Rivs, I'd
definitely be inclined to get one.  In fact I thought about selling
both and replacing them with one, but they both carry considerable
sentimental value for me so that's not likely to happen. (the Heron
was my first ever Riv and the Rambouillet was a gift from my
significant other)  Plus the orange Rambly is just such an aesthetic
home run that I would have a real hard time parting with it...

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Riders Brooks Saddle....?

[SteveF]

Nitto as well...

On Jul 22, 9:40 pm, Roger  wrote:
> The story I'd like to hear is to what degree Rivendell propped up Brooks in 
> the late '90s. Sure, Harris and Wallingford sold some, but to my memory, 
> Riv's tireless advocacy largely resurrected the US market for Brooks after it 
> had almost died. I've never seen numbers but it wouldnt surprise me if they 
> accounted for over half of US sales.
>
> With Brooks, Rivendell wasn't just another vendor.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

[SteveF]

Definitely consider a Roadeo, especially since your insurance company is 
covering replacement cost.  I think it's the closest thing to the 
Rambouillet that you can get new.  And you deserve new after that traumatic 
experience!

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Re: RE: [RBW] Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

[SteveF]

Mine fits 32mm and fenders no problem.  What tire/fender combo are you 
trying?

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Re: RE: [RBW] Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

[SteveF]

I'm running 45mm Planet Bike Cascadia fenders with 32mm Soma Express 
skinwalls (basically a folding Pasela with Hypertex flat protection)

http://store.somafab.com/newxpsped70f.html

Recent pic of the thing

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5954918818/in/photostream

Supersize it and you can see the clearance is tight but manageable...

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[RBW] Re: How much should a bike cost?

[SteveF]

I wouldn't call the Heron Road an "all 'rounder," (or do you mean the 
touring model?)  It maximized tire clearance with the short reach sidepulls 
of the time, but that only amounts to maybe a 30mm tire, no fenders--it's 
definitely a road bike.  I think it's the closest thing to the Bridgestone 
RB-1/2's that Riv's ever offered.  (and the touring closest to the RB-T 

I'd say the Riv/Soma joint venture meets your "mass market all-rounder," 
description pretty well...

On Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:41:23 AM UTC-4, dan gee wrote:
>
> > I think that Rivendells are probably priced too low. 
>
> Considering that you can get a full custom US-made bike made for a few 
> hundred less than any of the non-Taiwainese stock bikes, I'm going to 
> respectfully disagree here. Obviously people are willing to pay that 
> much, but those prices put Rivs out of the reach of many of us, and 
> there are many comparable Taiwanese options (Surly, Soma, Handsome) 
> that cost as little as half of what the Rivs do. Granted, with 
> powdercoats and without lugs, but still. 
>
> I really with there was a modern equivalent of the Heron - something 
> that embodies the principles of Riv's design, but without all the 
> frills and decoration that would raise the price, and without all the 
> design oddities that limit the market. Make a mass-market all-rounder 
> in Taiwan, use the economies of scale to get a good price on the 
> manufacture, and put something in the public's hands that would be an 
> alternative to the carbon racing bikes that most people find 
> themselves steered to in bike shops. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Different Pedal Question - M324's - Follow up

[SteveF]

On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:41:05 PM UTC-4, lap wrote:
>
> I did pull these pedals off and replaced them with some A520's.  The 
> click went away so it appears that it was the M324's.  But, because I 
> like the utility of the M324's I decided to put them back on and live 
> with the click.  I have been riding them for two weeks and the click 
> has not come back.  Strange. 
>
> quoted text -


Sounds like they were a little loose or a bit lacking in grease on the pedal 
spindle threads and re-installing them fixed it!  (had the same thing happen 
to my commuter a while back.) 

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[RBW] Re: CL Deal on 650b wheels with tires

[SteveF]

If he'd done HIS homework, he might know the difference between "break," and 
"brake."

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[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

[stevef]

Bumping this thread to show my new custom Saluki replacement!  Looking 
forward to picking it up, building it up, and rolling it around...B-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5987496619/in/photostream

Color is based on the ginger paint on the first generation Salsa 
Cassaroll--hope it looks good with red Hetres!

Steve

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[RBW] Re: SKS fender sizing (and 650b fit)

[stevef]

I just measured the P-50's on my 650b, Hetre'd Quickbeam and they're around 
53-55mm, so I think you are correct in assuming that you have P45's.  My 
experience has been that the P-50's gave better coverage and fender line 
than the 45's but that may have been a quirk of installation...

Quick pic of the Quick(beam) for fender displayin' purposes:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/4317180490/in/photostream/

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[RBW] Re: Need your advice -- was thinking of getting a Sam Hillborne for Dad

[stevef]

Very cool, Amit!  I tried something similar with my dad but his arthritic 
knees made cycling painful for him.  At least we can still drink beers and 
shoot skeet together...B-)

Steve, semi-reformed hillbilly, son of an un-reformed one.

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Re: [RBW] What's the shortest stem that you would use?

[stevef]

If you think about it, a 2cm shorter stem with the noodles would move the 
hoods back only a bit more than switching to the shorter reach Mark's bars.  
So I don't think there'd be any difference in handling there, especially if 
you're talking about handling while your hands are on the hoods or drops.  
If raising the bars doesn't offer sufficient improvement, Id go by this:  if 
you like the long flat ramp of the Noodles for resting your hands on, get a 
shorter stem and maybe narrower Noodles.  If you usually ride on the hoods 
anyway, maybe try the Mark's bars.  (which will not have as flat a ramp nor 
will the hooks be nearly parallel to the ramps, so they would feel quite 
different...)

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[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

[stevef]

I had a thunk when I was bashing around at Fort Custer Recreation Area on my 
650b-wheeled, custom Curtlo Softail yesterday.  I don't doubt that larger 
wheels bridge closely spaced bumps and help smooth the ride over washboards 
and root beds, and add a bit of stability.  But I wonder how much of the 
cush they are supposed to offer is due to the longer wheelbase/chainstays?  
Remember the trend in 26" mtb's where the chainstays kept getting shorter 
and shorter, so they'd "climb better?"  Getting the wheel right up under the 
saddle like that does tend to give them a bit of a jackhammer ride...

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Tour 2011

[stevef]

Jealous!  I really miss riding in the Northwest--used to go out there every 
summer to visit family and ride, but they moved.  I'd probably have to trim 
your route to 60 or so miles per day and take a little longer to enjoy it 
but man, sure the NW sure is pretty...

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/SO Gearing Help

[stevef]

I like not moving my wheel too much so it doesn't interfere with the 
fender.  And I don't find the brake pads to line up as perfectly as I'd 
hoped when the wheel is moved from one extreme to t'other.

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Year of Rol-y Pol-y introduction

[stevef]

Boy I could've sworn they came stock on my Heron Road that I bought in 
1999.  It was late '99, though so maybe they were available by then. 

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County (Michigan) Ride Report and Photos

[stevef]

Nice!  I need to get that map book and do some of them rides

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Question on cartridge BB

[stevef]

Steel cup'd Tange bottom brackets are available here, if you decide to go 
that route.  I've used them--they're good.

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=0&keyword=tange+bottom+bracket

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[RBW] Re: Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist

[stevef]

Seller stresses in the ad that its a pre-production bike--I wonder, given 
the color and overall look if its a Prototype or precursor of the Atlantis, 
or a transitional test mule between the longlow and the Atlantis.  The add 
is a little be schizophrenic to me--seller stresses its uniqueness, it's 
non-stock/prototype origins but insists it is not for collectors.  He 
repeatedly points out the low mileage but also indicates that it is meant 
to be ridden and not hung in someones museum...strange.  

Steve

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[RBW] Re: real cyclists ride steel

[stevef]

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 7:13:32 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> I wasn't on a Riv today, although this bike has some Silver brand bits, 
> and the current setup is definitely riv inspired. At a store stop, another 
> bike group pulled in, and they too were fans of steel bikes.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/QNzYaH
>

Did a tour across the western U.S. in 2000 that happened to coincide with a 
big motorcycle rally in Sturgis.  Had almost all positive interactions with 
the motorbikers-lots of thumb's up's, encouragement and friendly banter.  
Man, when you have hundreds and hundreds of Harleys pass you all day long 
it'll make your ears ring tho  

Steve

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[RBW] Shimano R701 STI levers for sale

[stevef]

I have for sale a pair of lightly used Shimano R-701 STI road levers, 2X10 
speed, older exposed shift cable-models. They work great and aren't 
scratched up much, just a small scuff on one lever tip. They're the short 
reach model made for smaller hands, with Ultegra level internals. Available 
for pick up in the Lansing, MI area, or will ship for a bit more money. 
Looking for $100 or best offer. 

I also have a scuffed but functional Ultegra rear derailer and 105 front 
derailer to match, for another $40 or so.  And an 11-32 cassette, STX 
level, I believe, for another $20 or so.  Package offers welcome!

Thanks, Steve

Pics of the levers: 

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[RBW] Re: FS Heron 53cm - need help to identify vintage

[stevef]

It's also probably a 52 or 54 cm frame, since as I recall, Heron sidepull 
braked "road" frames were even numbered sizes, canti-braked "touring," 
model was odd numbered...

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

[stevef]

Which cranks and rings were those, Bill--I'd like to set up my all road 
bike with a 44t big/28-32t small crankset and 10 speed shimano road mechs, 
but I'm having trouble finding a crank that'll work. 

Steve

On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 12:29:31 AM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 2:14:48 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 03/08/2017 04:21 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>
>> For my next bike, I'm planning on going etap "wireless" with mid-cage RD. 
>> I want to run 11-32 in the rear with a sub-compact double like a 46x30 or 
>> 46x28.  Since I don't "tour" or carry a load, a 30x32 or 28x32 should be 
>> more than enough to get me up the hills around here! Of course, YMMV!  Good 
>> Luck!
>>
>> You can help that luck by making sure your frame has a round seat tube 
>> and uses a clamp on front derailleur.  Which pretty much means a titanium 
>> frame.
>>
>
> Or a Calfee.  Which, come to think of it, Brewster already owns.
>
> I have had no problems mixing SRAM road and mountain 10 speed derailleurs 
> and shifters with 44/28 and 42/26 cranks and 11/32 or 12/28 cassettes. 
>  Even on my Calfee, now sadly sold.
>
> Bill 
> Stockton, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on herd thinning (or, scheming to get another bike)

[stevef]

I used to have a lot of overlapping bikes in my herd and I sold off more 
than half.  It wasn't easy but it was rewarding.  The simplicity of having 
fewer bike to maintain and store is pretty great.  They were all nice bikes 
that I appreciated but once I decided some had to go, it was pretty clear 
which ones I rode more, and which ones meant more to me as a rider rather 
than just "this is a nice bike and I want to possess it."  

Things to consider would be which bikes you feel most overlap each other, 
and/or the bike you hope to add.  And which bike, if any, you feel the 
least attached to the experience of riding, rather than just as a nice bike 
worth owning.  Also keep in mind that the Specialized would probably be the 
easiest one to sell anywhere but, well--here. 

Steve 

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 9:45:54 PM UTC-4, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> I have a bunch of bikes, with a fair bit of overlap, and yet I find myself 
> lusting after n+1. At the same time, I don't have a lot of cash to throw 
> toward a new bike and love the idea of reducing the number of bikes I have. 
>  So I'm kind of inclined to sell off one or two to make more physical and 
> mental space and to fund the pursuit of the N+1.  With that in mind I 
> invite advice, jeers, and any other comments you might feel inclined to 
> make in helping guide and influence my decision process. It's a wordy post 
> and probably of limited interest, but there are pictures at least.
>
> pictures here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/albums/72157681401817736/with/32640008764/
>
> The N+1 I'm after is a 55cm silver appaloosa. It's quite a bit smaller in 
> seat tube length than my other bikes, but Will told me the standover is 
> 83.5cm and the stack and reach numbers on the geometry chart look about 
> right for me. I'll build it up with drop bars. Will thought the 58cm would 
> probably be a better fit, but I think the older I get the more standover 
> clearance I'm likely to want.
>
> In the stable currently are:
>
> 1. 60cm butterscotch Saluki. Probably my best fitting bike with a 84cm 
> standover on 42mm parimotos (measuring closer to 38mm).  Not a bike I'm 
> really willing to part with.  It's quite possibly the nicest bike I'll ever 
> own and I can see riding it until I can't swing a leg over the saddle.
>
> 2. 60cm twin top tube dark green  Bombadil.  This one is probably the most 
> likely to get moved on as the standover is a bit too tight for comfort. 
>  It's ok on level ground, but a quick dismount on uneven terrain is a 
> frightening proposition.  my pbh is 89cm, although generally I go by 88cm 
> as I seem to prefer a slight size down approach with rivendells.  The 
> standover on the bombadil with 45cm tires is ~88.5cm, which is ok for 
> controlled dismounts, but really, feels a little too big.  My reluctance to 
> sell it at the moment is that selling the frame alone won't get me enough 
> for a replacement frame that fits and that if I sell it as a complete, I'll 
> need to buy a new build kit.
>
> 3. 59cm orange Clementine. This bike won't go anywhere for the next while. 
> It's really my baby daughter's bike, I just act as a chauffeur.
>
> 4. 61cm light blue Romulus.  I love this bike.  It feels the fastest of 
> the bikes I own.  Unfortunately it does overlap a fair bit with the Saluki 
> so it's a bit redundant to keep around. Currently I tell myself that it can 
> be differentiated as my "beater" bike and ridden in crappy vancouver winter 
> weather. But really, I'm just lying to myself there; I'd be perfectly 
> willing to ride the saluki in crappy weather too and with the wider tires 
> it's probably a better choice.  Really, I don't wanna sell it because I'm 
> attached to it and I don't think it'd ever sell for as much as it's worth 
> to me.  But I feel a little guilty holding onto it because it takes up 
> space and doesn't offer anything the other bikes don't.
>
> 5. 2016 61cm matte black Specialized Sequoia.  I bought this a month ago 
> to try out the allroad category from a big bike company and to try STI 
> shifting and mechanical disk brakes.  It's alright.  I don't think I'll 
> like it as much as my rivs and I kinda regret buying it instead of 
> pre-ordering an appa frameset, but I wanted to try something different. I'd 
> like to keep it for a year or so, try a couple different things with it 
> before deciding to move it on.
>
>
> So if you were in my shoes, and the Clementine and Saluki were the two 
> bikes you intend to hold onto no matter what, what would u do?
>
> thanks,
>
> Sky in new west
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape Blues

[stevef]

Yeah, I had the Fizik metal blue on my orange rambly for a while, tho I 
can't find any pics to share.  I run Fizik in white on it now which looks 
good and is reasonably easy to clean.  It's good tape if you can find a 
color to suit you...

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 9:29:31 AM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> Fizik Performance tape comes in a metal blue. It's quite dark, though not 
> a true navy, and has a slight metallic sheen to it, which may or may not 
> put you off. I like the padding of this tape and find it easy to clean, 
> when necessary. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Lost & found anything while riding?

[stevef]

My banana bounced out of my camelback side pocket when I hit a jump whilst 
riding a rugged section of trail.  When I did a 2nd lap, it was still there 
on the side of the trail so I stopped and had it for a snack...

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 3:14:38 PM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I'm all but positive I lost all of my keys on my way to work yesterday. 
>  Has anyone here ever had success finding stuff you've lost while riding? 
>  I already posted in the local CL bicycles section and checked the 
> chainlink forum.

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