[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Good to hear from Rivendell Chicas. As an avid-reader-but-seldom- poster of the RBW Owners Bunch, I often lament that there is such a limited involvement from women (myself sadly included). Anne, yours is one of the few women's voices I see regularly, and so it's been sad to see that no one has responded to your post. When I read frequent references to things like "the wife," while I don't assume it is meant to be a put-down, it does contribute to making me feel that I am entering a male space. It's so often used when men are choosing and buying bikes for their women... I have loved few things more than learning about bike design, parts, and outfitting myself so that I can ride all year round here in Minnesota. What an adventure of the heart, spirit, and body. So, perhaps there are folks out there who have the opposite problem of big guys' bikes with their double top tubes and diagatubes and so forth, that seek recommendations for the little bikes, ones that are in the 48 to 52 cm range. For example, I've struggled with saddle bag/ rack combinations for bikes with not much room between the saddle and the fender! I found that Mark's Rack works rwonderfully because its height and distance from the saddle are infinitely adjustable. I've used it with my old Baggins Adam (the just-smaller-than-the-Hoss for you old timers). Also, at a recent--and really enjoyable--visit to Riv HQ, the women's small WoolyWarm vest and button-up, which I believe at one time were boasted in the ever memorable e-less catalog to be appropriate for Baffin Island, fits a 5'2", slightly plump, 50+ year old woman, and the little Hunq is a blast for the same sized/aged person. Maybe I'll even go crazy and post pictures of my 2006 red 50cm Saluki and my 2009 clear-coat Proto Bleriot set up as a poor woman's Quickbeam. Okay women, I'll stop being a lurker if you will. fondly, Liesl On Apr 2, 9:36 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among > all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a > beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color > of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other > Rivendell chicas. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Whoa! Great to see all the posts and read all my fellow lurkers' posts! And what pretty bikes we have. It's especially fun to see the raw clear coat Rodeo with, among other fine accoutrements, a Finesse! Now that's a woman's riv! Okay, I'll get some pictures up on flicker and report back when I do. And a fast correction: the reissue WoolyWarms don't come in women's sizes; that was a typo. I meant to say that the small fits me, a small woman, just fine. The cardigan is really the same in fit, style, and wool as the original issue. My old one has so much dog-induced beausage from biscuits in the doit pockets that it probably won't handle being darned again--but that's another story. My main point is: great to hear from all the Riv Chicas. (And thanks to all the posters at large because I continually learn so much and get so inspired from the discussion threads and the photos.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
Riv Saluki--first litter, serial number 77. 50cm red with cream head tube, mustache bars, silver bar-ends, nitto dirt-drop, VO elk sew-on grips, wood fenders, honey brooks, nitto marks rack with a baggins adam & mini -front with a nigel smyth tweed li'l loafer, snow peak spork mounted on one of the water bottle braze-ons. Looks a bit like a '57 MG. she's the pretty girl. Riv Protovelo Bleriot--51 cm set up as a little quickbeam, sandblasted clear powdercoat, mustache bars, nitto dirt-drop, white hubs with an eno on the back, green brooks, carradice barley on the back. just a simple delight to ride--as my main commuter, might get ridden the most? Bike Friday Pocket Rocket--riv-ified. british green, mustache bars, 1x8 with a single shimano bar-end, honey brooks, sackville keven's up front and steals the carradice barley. what a companion; has gone as far as new zealand with me. 86 Trek 650--dark blue, tiny frame with big 700 wheels set up as a single speed winter beater, mustache bars, nitto dirt-drop, baggins keven's bag up front and baggins little joe on the back. all scuffed up and covered in salt grime; no one knows how nice she is. '99 Kona Fire Mountain--olive green, albatross bars (you mean you have a bike without mustache bars???), cork grips, shimano bar ends, studded nokia snow tires and army surplus appointments. the jeep. cheers, liesl minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Green 58 QuickBeam
The Quickbeam has joined my family as my partner's 50th birthday present. The bike is stunning and in stunning shape. John is a true gentleman; if he sells more from his stable, run don't walk. Cheers, John! liesl On Jun 22, 10:33 pm, John Blish wrote: > Thank you, Joe. You got it exactly right. > > My wife has a beautiful 54 orange Rambouillet, by the way. She is not down > on bikes but she knows too many when she sees it. > > John > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Joseph Hogg wrote: > > Congratulations, John. Happy Wife, Happy Life. > > > Joe > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, John Blish wrote: > > >> Thank you, everyone, for your interest. > > >> The 58 QuickBeam has been sold locally and could not have possibly gone to > >> a better home. I am as happy as I can be that it worked out this way. > > >> Marital harmony has been restored in my house. > > >> To those who emailed me, my sincere thanks and good luck in your > >> bike-hunting and riding. > > >> John > > >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:14 AM, John Blish wrote: > > >>> I am original owner. It has never spent a night outside or been parked > >>> with other bikes in any kind of a rack. It is always inside (basement) in > >>> the winter. Only used on pavement. > > >>> It once had SKS silver plastic fenders and two large Nitto racks on it. > >>> For that see photo #33 and also see: > > >>>http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/58Kogswell/?action=view&curre...) > > >>> It was never used to transport more than a typical commuting load and was > >>> only used for commuting a few times and always parked inside carpeted > >>> locker > >>> room for commute. The rear rack was mostly just to keep the Carradice off > >>> the rear wheel / fender. I have ridden it fixed but only 5 - 6 miles. > >>> Total mileage is about 1,000; I really don't know for certain. > > >>> Bike can be seen at: > > >>>https://picasaweb.google.com/jblish/Rivendell58QuickBeamForSale > > >>> I found 2 small paint chips on the right fork blade, shown in the last > >>> picture. I do not know how that occurred. There are no dings or dents. > > >>> Saddle has an abrasion on right rear which can be seen in next to the > >>> last photo. > > >>> I am offering bike with copper-railed BRG Brooks B17 Special, silver > >>> Salsa Shaft two-bolt seat post, 18 tooth Dura Ace track cog mounted on the > >>> flip-flop hub and MKS Sylvan Road pedals - all shown on bike. It does not > >>> come with any rack or bag or speedometer or bell or pump. > > >>> Asking $1175.00 for that complete package, ready to ride, plus actual > >>> shipping. If you use PayPal please plan to pay half the fee of roughly 3% > >>> that will be charged to me; buyer's share will be about $18. Check or > >>> money > >>> order also works fine. I will wait for it to clear. > > >>> I like this bike a lot. I am getting rid of it to maintain marital > >>> harmony. To that extent, it pretty much has to go; I am finally dead up > >>> against the No More Bikes In Until One Goes Out Unilateral Mandate, with > >>> which some of you are familiar. I have skated by that without observing > >>> it > >>> two times recently and that won't work again without a penalty that I > >>> don't > >>> want to experience. > > >>> Bike will go to eBay if it doesn't sell here and I don't want to mess > >>> with that so I am motivated seller. > > >>> Any questions or comments or requests for information or more photos of > >>> specific parts, just let me know. You may call me if you wish - email for > >>> phone number. > > >>> Thanks for looking. > > >>> John > > >>> -- > >>> John Blish > >>> Minneapolis MN USA > > >> -- > >> John Blish > >> Minneapolis MN USA > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "internet-bob" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob?hl=en. > > -- > John Blish > Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HS
I think the new bike will have creative and beautiful seat stays here- to-for never seen. liesl minneapolis (and the family where John Blish's spectacular 58 Quickbeam went) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
We have a lot of bikes at our house with mustaches and noodles; I prefer m'bars and my partner prefers noodles. After our current round of bar experiments, I agree with charlie's formula. There are two things I'd add. First, consider a Dirt Drop stem if you really want m'bars raised. I had a short reach (7cm) technomic deluxe on my saluki and wound up switching it to a dirt drop after experiencing neck pain and trying the dirt drop on my proto bleriot. It really gets the bars up. And when they're really up, they kinda sorta start feeling like alba's, which I have on my old mountain bike. Second, my partner is trying m'bars on her new-to-us quickbeam after being in noodle land for years. we put the 7 cm technomic deluxe on for an experiment, and it appears to work like a charm. She's *loving* the access to brakes--this is a key great thing about m'bars, especially for bikes being used to commute or in city riding. I think a key is try a few experiments if you can borrow some bars and see what you like. We did it on the QB, and just let there be an embarrassing amount of cables sticking out during test rides (you'll need less cable going from noodles to m'bars). Granted, this is easier to do with a single, but it would work with bar-end shifters too. I found it not too daunting at all to do the switches, and I am not a bike mechanic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: moustache handlebar bag
Keven's bag all the way. rocks on m'bars. rocks anywhere. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: That Betty Foy is some bicycle!
Fabulous to have one more smilin' Riv Chica on the road! You and Betty look great. And just don't be bothered with thinking how slow or fast you are as compared to others; just think about it when you yourself wanna be slow or fast!. Just ride. -Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How do you use YOUR Rivendell triangle?
Maybe I should one on each of my dogs! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Custom Appaloosa Update
Here's some fun news! I talked with Mark at Riv and there seems to be a groovy design solution to having a really small frame (in the 50cm range) with a diagatube! When last you tuned in (if you tuned in at all), you might recall (or might not) that Grant said that getting a diagatube, lugs, and clearance for 55mm tires and fenders was like trying to get 4 balls into 3 and a half holes. Here's how it's likely to go: 26" wheels (already knew that) and— —*double* small diameter old school Mixte-style diagatubes that are mitered and fillet brazed somewhere about the head tube. Where it's brazed to will be Mark Nobilette's choice; could be to the top tube, could be to the head tube, could be to the bottom tube. Mark was quite excited as he described it. It would be truly totally custom. Current thinking on the build kit is as follows: 58 Boscos, Meisha's Cork (normal), Paul Thumbies + Shimano BarEnds, brake levers to be determined, Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil "Rivy" Hub - Rivy 32h Rear Hub, New SON 28 32H Front Hub, 26" Aeroheat Rims, Schwalbe Big Bens Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t, VP Thin Gripster pedals Brooks Champion Flyer select, Paul Tall and Handsome seatpost As always, your thoughts are welcomed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Hi friends, What a tutorial in gears! I'm learning quite a bit! A few comments on that topic from my perspective: I'm in the Edwin W camp. Simple shifting, a bail-out gear...that'll do for me. I, too, ride a single most of the time and I expect to keep my triple Saluki, and my 1x8 Friday is just swell. I live in Minneapolis and most of my riding is my 20 mile commute with only one big hill so this set-up gear-wise will be just fine for me. On the diagatube front, yes, William, they will tentaculate back to the whimsical seatstay/chainstay curls. It will be way cool. And of course, there will still be a top tube. And what are "those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage"? Gotta picture? On the delivery schedule: Riv is waiting for some tubes, then it will go to Mark Nobillete and he'll have a month/month and a half and then to Joe Bell and he'll also have a month/month and a half, so November would be pushing it. I want to fly out to Riv for the build and be a fly on the wall, so we'll see. On the color front: Khaki WWII green. Thinking about wood fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hello from Gila Country!
Welcome, Nils! I love it when lurkers come out from behind cacti! -Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: My miniature AHH
Diane, your Miniature AHH looks fabulous! I have its slightly larger cousin; a red 50 Saluki. You'll like the Nifty Swiftys. You might also, next time you're looking for tires, try the Soma Xpress—even comes in terra cotta. I'll also be interested in your saddlebag adventures. I have found with my low saddle height (but without springs) that a carradice barley works nicely and holds a reasonable amount for commuting and jaunting about town. Keep us posted and happy trails! -RWC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New rack!
Very very nice, Patrick! What bags are you using with it? Any trial loads to report? Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: front or rear rack?
If you have a front rack like a Nitto mini, I also encourage you to consider a Wald Medium basket and even better, a Wald medium with a medium Shopsack. This is a totally sweet combo. Removeable zip ties make it easy to take on an off. It's a really useful set-up and will hold more than your rando, but it isn't too big either. Easy to go back and forth. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddles - A Weighty Question
With respect to adjusting the tilt of the saddle, I found that some seatposts are better than others at allowing one to make some pretty fine adjustments. If you are like me, my small female hands can't always tighten up a Nitto post with a good adjustment at the same time. I've found that I really prefer posts with two bolts fore and aft like the Paul Tall and Handsome or the Thompson Elite. Just something to think about. Good luck! Liesl (a.k.a. RCW) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet 50cm
Women of a certain PBH! This is a good one! You won't regret it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: My miniature AHH
On SOMA Xpress: I started using them upon recommendations from this group on a 650B winter tire that was 38mm or less. I wound up really liking them generally and they were reasonable for light snow on city roads. (I did, though, rip a sidewall by incorrectly positioning my White ENO eccentric hub/rear brake shoe. Ya learn that once! Gotta love those QB's for that very reason. But when I set up my proto bleriot frame as a single, there wasn't any small QB's like they had in the last silver run.) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: My miniature AHH
> OK, that does it. I'm going to start talking to Riv about the last of the > 47cm Salukis. My son, then my daughter, and maybe even my wife, would each > look great on one of those. > Go, William, Go! You won't regret it! I was kinda sorta in the same position when I picked up the Proto Bleriot frame some years ago. Do it. You have my full support (but without any $) ! -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddles - A Weighty Question
Diane, excellent tips for the wee-handed! On a similar front, the Shimano MTB silver brake levers are also nice for us because they have reach adjust screws that allow the lever to be closer to the grip. Liesl, I know what you mean. I bought a 6" piece of small diameter, thick > walled pipe that I use on the hex key to give me more leverage and a rubber > mallet to whack the nose of the saddle. Careful and judicious use of both > seems to work well for me. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
> Already started carving out a baby spoon for a lilac branch that has > annoyed me too long. No longer! Grin. Once the Silky Saw arrives, I'll > delve into some downed pine near us and see if there are bowls in them thar > hills. > Patrick, we really have to meet! Here's my first attempt at a spoon carved from birch with my GB mini hatchet and then mostly a sloyd carving knife. The bowl was turned by Cooper Ternes up in Grand Marais along Lake Superior. Perhaps there needs to be a Riv Hatchet and Carving SubList! sloyd carving knife: http://www.pinewoodforge.com/ Cooper Ternes: http://www.nordicwoodenware.com/gallery.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
oops here's the photos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. <><>
Re: [RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
I'm kind of excited to try a wood mess kit like sailors in the days of old. I'd like to weigh my titanium kit (just cup, bowl, plate) and my wood kit (same) to see the difference. I expect it wouldn't be a deal-breaker. Advantages of wood: much more thermal than single wall Ti, doesn't make clattering noise; feels wonderful in the hand; holds many stories. Disadvantages: can't use it over a flame; heavier than Ti. So one still needs some sort of pot/pitcher like the Snow Peak 700 ml mug. The beausage that a wood kit gets over time can't be beat. I have have a wooden Norwegian bowl and spoon that came over with my ancestors in the 1850's and they are still serviceable and spectacular. Of course, they don't go camping. As for stories, Cooper Ternes says it really nicely and, I think, in true Riv spirit: "Wooden bowls are full of stories. They can be beautiful. They can be functional. A wooden bowl contains the story of the tree and the forest where it grew. It contains the story of the maker, his tools and the tradition it is a part of. A bowl also contains the story and the memories of the food you eat. A wooden bowl is personable and warm, with frequent and consistent use it becomes part of your story." What if this was turned into bikes? "Riv bikes are full of stories. They can be beautiful. They can be functional. A Riv bike contains the story of the steel and the place where it was made. It contains the story of the maker, his tools and the tradition it is a part of. A Riv bike also contains the story and the memories of the rides you take. A Riv bike is personable and strong, with frequent and consistent use it becomes part of your story." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
Hey Patrick, I hope inspiration does not lead to frustration! We have a motto on my team: "If it were easy, it wouldn't be hard!" We say it to refer to doing things that are worthy of love, practice, and effort and to reflect the mindframe that we can all get better at things. Lord knows, I am working on getting better at riding a loaded bike on hilly trails! The GB mini hatchet is a totally precision tool. One might think that it's a child's or a woman's ask—both fine and true—and overlook that it's extremely capable and excellent for fine work. You see all of this. I would guess that a mini's weight (10 oz head) would be the ideal choice for your brain-mind-body connections! Keep us posted as I know you will! On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:23:46 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Beautiful, Liesl! Your skill is inspiring and I suspect may lead to > frustration as I attempt to do something equally ornate. I know knife > carving is too intricate for my brain capacity (fine motor skills are very > taxing on my brain energy), but the hatchet may right at the ballence point > between brute force and finesse. If I can do it, I'll like get the mini > also, both so my daughters have something smaller for them and so I can > ossibly do finer work but still witht he power of the hatchet. Here's to > hoping hatchet carving fuels my brain rather than taxing it! Grin. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
"Frustration isn't a bad thing, it's a warning light of too much brain energy flapping out my ears." I am gonna quote you on that, my friend, many times! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
Reid, I do not speak or read English, but I have the great fortune of having a colleague on my team who does! At any rate, I don't think I've found an English Killi website. The good thing is that Norwegian is sometimes so close to English as to inspire giggles. 'Turkopps,' which is what I have, means a touring cup. 'Snapskopps' are cups for Schnapps, and 'Suppe Kopp' is a soup cup. 'Turkopp med karabinkrok' is a touring cup with—a carabiner! I haven't found a US stockist. My secret desire is that Riv would carry them. The middle size would be poifect. I mean, if they carry Swedish axes, they gotta have equal time for the Norskies (but then are the Danes and the Finns gonna wanna get in on this action? and I suppose Devold counts as Norsk...) But here's an English article on Mr. Killi: http://philholtan.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/trond-killi-norwegian-production-woodturner/ Yes, the wood burning was done by yours truly. To get such a magic cup, you would have to practice and practice! Or obtain a cup and suggest a barter with me! On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:00:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote: > > Hey Liesl -- For those of us who don't read Norwegian (am I alone here??), > do you know of any site that carries the Killi products in English? Also, > it looks as though the beautiful Celtic work on the cup in your photo was > done by YOU, right? So to get such a magic cup, I would have to learn how > to be artistic and do wood burning. That's asking a lot ! :-) > > Best to you, > > Reid > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:05:28 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: > > Reid, I do not speak or read English, ... > The truth of the matter is that I do, in fact, read and speak English; it's Norwegian that I don't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.
> Have you tried albatross or bosco bars? They can allow you to sit upright > and put no pressure on your hands. I 2nd the recommendation for Ergon grips > too. > Dang, Clayton! I. too, suggest Boscos and Ergons, which I have for neck trouble. My colleague Nils is an organist and suffers from carpel tunnel (plus his wife is an MD) and he had tried a bunch of stuff similar to what you are describing. He switched out his drops to boscos, Miesha's, shimano MTB levers, barend shifters, and interupters on the flats by the stem. It's a different world for him. So Mieshas or Ergons and boscos. best best best of luck, RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Yet more travel coffee questions!
As a member (I think) in good standing of the Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen (and, I'm assuming, Wheelwomen), I am wondering if any other members have the solution to traveling with milk/half-n-half/cream. I am a coffee enthusiast (at home I grind with a Rancilio Rocky pull daily shots from a La Pavoni, so I am in WAY deep) and am still tinkering with the travel/camp/bike set-up. Now that my work has been taking me to the middle of North Dakota, I've found it's prudent to carry the whole dang kit-and-kaboodle with me even as I stay in hotels. I have an Aeropress, a Porlex mini mill, a Trangia, and various-sized Snow Peak mugs (double and single-walled; 350 to 700 sizes). I now seek the perfect means to carry, heat and even froth (!) milk that could nest, or come close to nesting, with what I have (the aforementioned list). If any group would have suggestions on this worthy challenge, it's this group! caffeinatingly yours, RCW in the land where the sky is about to burst with a foot of snow and we cheer for our Winter Olympians -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Best-of-the-Posts Snippets?
Our threads just sparkle and snap with erudite alacrity. Here are a few of my most favorite recent memorable comments...what are yours? "Would you be willing to share your pemmican recipe?" "This frame has chirality" "It's DYED in the wool. That is, rather than cloth that is made and then colored, dyed-in-the-wool cloth is made from wool that was already dyed before the yarn was made into fabric." and I think my personal all-time favorite... "m = m sub Curtis over the square root of one minus (v sub Curtis over C) squared" please share your fav's! the bonus is that it's a pretty fun hunt. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Yet more travel coffee questions!
I knew you all would have great suggestions. My query really concerns all traveling modes--bike, camp, car, etc. Having one kit makes it easy and if I have a few dairy options, all the better. Next time I'm out at Riv, I'll challenge the local team of Riv baristas to make me a coffee that I love without cream. That's a tall order! Really, I've tried. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Riv Cowboy Shirt Blue with Red. Size Medium $40 shipped
We'll take it at our house if it's still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Riv Cowboy Shirt Blue with Red. Size Medium $40 shipped
We'll take it at our house if it's still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Traveling with a Sam - recs for a travel case?
I haven't traveled with a regular frame but have traveled a lot with my folding Friday, both domestic and overseas. Here are some general thoughts: my hard case with everything but my helmet always comes in right at about 48-49 pounds. Using folding or EZY pedals is highly recommended. Also, having lengths of cord and several washcloths to wrap around and tie onto the frame and around brake handles, etc, works well. You can also get flexible plastic tubing in large diameter, split it and then cut it to length to protect chainstays, seatstays, etc. I've carefully honed the following list over the past 3-4 years. It's not a camping list, but general all-purpose: Pump Tires, 1-2 folders Tire Gauge Tire Irons Tubes, 1-2 Patch kit Allen 3-way, 4-5-6mm ball-end Allen, 4mm ball end Allen, 5mm ball end Allen, 6mm ball end (Allen tool comment: it's actually nice to have all of them, especially if traveling with another person and bike) Multi Folder Leatherman or needle-nose pliers Latex Gloves Spare bolts, washers, and nuts Handlebar Bag (Keven’s/Carradice Zipped Roll/Sackville Saddlesack xsmall) Saddle Bag — Carradice Barley Reflector Triangle Seat Cover Irish straps, 2 each, long Irish straps, 2 each, short Water Bottle + cage (I pack my lights inside the bottle) Lights, Blinkies R/F Lights, Cygolights, USB cord (USB plug-in) Gino light mount Locks (I like the Abus Combination because I've gotten caught too many times with either me or Erin forgetting a key) Chico Bag for storing frame-packing materials -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Dog Snack Thievery-English riding jacket survives
Man that English riding jacket is tough! Our big goofball standard poodle, Jocko, tried to steal a dog treat from the pocket of Erin's ERJ by chomping through the fabric. We didn't catch him in the act; the jacket seems to have defended itself spectacularly: The fabric was wet with dog slobber and showed several tooth-shaped dents but no holes! I have a Filson moleskin vest that did not fare so well in very similar conditions. We're totally impressed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saw the coolest thing on trail today.
Somehow, I think this is why Grant cautioned me about following Manny on a Manny-planned route for an S24O. Me hopping a stump...you gotta laugh or it wouldn't be funny! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Soma Oxford vs. Nitto Albatross
Cecily, I have some lyme-related problems with my joints and also a few ragged vertebra in my neck. Don't rule out Boscos as they are dreamy for comfy hands/wrists/neck and offer lots of hand positions. I switched three bikes (saluki, protobleriot set up as a single speed, and a Bike Friday) with old style mustaches to Boscos and haven't looked back. I still have albas on one bike, and I like the Boscos more. You'll need a long (10-12cm) stem. good luck! Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Soma Oxford vs. Nitto Albatross
FS, Tires, Bars, and Bag oh my Cecily, if you're interested, this thread has a Bosco/stem set-up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
That last litter of Quickbeams finally came out with the small size; I remember it well because it was AFTER I bought my 51cm Proto Bleriot frame and turned it into a faux 'beam using a White Industries ENO hub that I even found used from Mark Abele. No regrets though since I love love love my proto. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!
Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the custom frame to Riv around March 21. Zownds! Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele: 26" Aerohead 32-hole rims SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova) Phil Rivvy in back Big Bens Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil bottom bracket Paul Touring Canti's Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post Brooks Champion Flyer Select Bullmoose Boscos Shimano MTP Silver brake levers Paul Thumbies Miesha Grips Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth Claris Front Derailer Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?) a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home! Now let the Committee Deliberations commence! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!
Thanks all for catching the cassette/rear hub conundrum. More on that later. Anne, I already have the Supernova and have been using it for commuting for maybe two years. I know you've been exploring this in your thread. I like the light and especially like the rubber gasketted handlebar mount; it moves so easily from bike to bike and fits in a pocket. Erin has one too. We don't do off-road stuff generally but do ride snow after dark. It's been a fine light for our purposes. (Bill, the cowboy shirt arrived. C'est Magnifique!) The custom is hopefully a go most anywhere/do most anything/have most fun doing it kind of bike. On the small decisions: that's why I'm gonna make the pilgrimage to Riv for the build. On the big decisions: working on 'em! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!
Micheal, no need to sell me on White hubs; I have a set and love them! The plan is to work with Rich Lesnick and get it sorted out! Rich is the Wheelman; Mark's the Buildman -Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Evolution of your bike preference?
Bobbie, I was struck by how many of us had stingrays as well. And the photo of the Orange Krate reveals my not wanting to ride more than a block/1% grade. It was so heavy and not even upright—it was laid back! I mean check out the picture: the springer front end was probably 7 pounds all by itself! I am not a weight-weenie, but I swear that bike weighed 45 pounds unloaded. When I was maybe 12, I rode it on some organized youth ride in the country and I thought I was gonna DIE. Riv Chica Warrior remembering when she was Baby Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: You know you are riding in San Francisco when
Eileen with the Hilsen, are you on the list? Pipe up if so! You have got a groove goin'! -Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Late on the thread here, but +1 on the Porlex. Here in the Twin Cities, land of sub-zero Marches, it's hard to beat Peace Coffee. Our house fav is Blue Mountain, dark—smooth, low acid, yummy. And Matthew J, please post something about the OE lido once you get it and give a test ride! Do y'all think there should be a RivList Coffee subgroup? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom update
Hi Friends, two updates... rear hub: White Industries MI5 (I know you were sitting on pins and needles over that one! ;) ) My visit to Riv HQ and BBH: March 21-24. Anyone interested in a Saturday afternoon gathering/ride? If we cross our fingers, the custom might be able to go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday
Hey Friends, it's finally gonna be unveiled. I've seen the photos with the bars and wheels in a mock build and hooie it's nice. I'll post more details as to when and where (RWHQ or BBH) but saturday is for pretty much sure. A fun inaugural ride is in order! Riv Chica Warrior about to ride again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Chica Warrior Ride. Tomorrow! (3/22)
Holy moly what a most excellent Riv pilgrimage to bring home my rolling Riv bike of love. Great time with mark building it, sitting on the floor with Grant at BBH listening to the story of the impossible to design custom, chopping out a spoon, seeing all my Riv pals old and new, talking with keven about trouble coffee, going for a ride today, eating pho with the boys, getting my bike charm from manny, wood burning with Vince and will, recouping in the shade with kind Cora, and patient keven at the end of a long day going through my final order ... Holy moly what a most excellent Riv pilgrimage . More when I'm home and at a proper computer instead of an iPhone. Photos to come. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bosco Bullmoose Bars
Hey Patrick! I'm a convert to the boscos and the new custom has bull moose boscos. I'm wee, and even I notice a difference. The boscos have so much lever-power that the bullmoose version is really great. Angle is good, too. I really prefer them over alba's which I've just never warmed up to. Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
Hi friends, If you haven't seen it already, here they are: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/80720787036/heres-the-story-of-our-latest-custom-bike-for The bike is a treasure. So sure and confident and comfy and beautiful. It will go anywhere and everywhere. For a very long time. I went out on the Saturday Gentlewoman's ride with the local Rivsters. I can't really give a full report, though, because I was too sick with an upper respiratory thang to venture out in the hills with the rest of the gang (thank you Cora for sitting in the shade with me). Any time you borrow a saddlebag to tote Dayquill and a box of Kleenex is just not a good sign. Anyway, the little riding we did on Saturday lets me know that it is a joy to ride and fits like a broken-in pair of wonderful handmade shoes. I managed to get in the shortest of descents on a grassy Riv-style hill and I was in awe of its stability. Like a mountain goat. The paint has to be seen to be believed. JB added pearl to the paint that you can't see until it's in brilliant sun. And then it flickers and dazzles with the most subtle blues and yellows and whites...like you just found a treasure on the beach. Some details: The Select Flyer wasn't just a test saddle; it's the saddle. Paul seatpost, thumbies, and brakes; SON hub, White Industries MI5 rear hub, brown big bens, phil BB, shimano xt derailer. Will add cedar fenders and a nitto mini front rack. And how wonderful to say to my fellow low PBH friends like Manny: "Take it for a ride!" (Rich Lee, you're next in line!) Once it's set up here in Minneapolis, there'll be more photos and ride reports. Thank you everyone for your knowledge, skill, artistry, support and input. And especially Grant, Mark, Mark, Rich, JB, and Keven. grinning from ear-to-ear, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
A few comments, etc... on vision: I have to say that the vision all long has been Grant and his merry band who dreamt up the Appaloosa. I rode the smallest protoype they and and fell in love. Then I rode a Hunq for the S24O in the Mt. Diablo foothills and fell in love with the confidence that came from 55mm tires. So my vision was just scooped up from everyone else. The big monkey wrenches I threw in were my PBH and an insistence on a top tube AND diagatubes. But I must also again give the nod to Keven, who told me to stand firm on all these wishes, especially the tire size; "Grant can figure it out. Give him a challenge." On Patrick M.: I THINK the chainstays are around 55cm, so crazy long—but someone at Riv should confirm. And I don't even know what 'the signature Rivendell "turn in"' is, so you'll have to elaborate. I know that will be a challenge as you are so shy to post. On Handling: I got a great tutorial from Grant on the challenges of designing a bike for a short/small person. It's hard to do right and as a result, most tend to be tippy/twitchy. I would invite Grant to offer his ideas because I'll not do it justice. What I can say is that as a short woman who's been around the block a few times, I've had my share of ill-fitting, ill-handling bikes. Not this one. You get on and it feels right, rock-solid, go anywhere, do anything, feel like it's a part of you. that was instant. I think Manny felt it too—but Manny, I'd love it if you chime in too. On My cold: finally improving. On seeing it up close: Folks passing through the Twin Cities are welcome to contact me to see the bike; just contact me off-list. And yes, I'm on cloud nine and speechless, and expect to be riding it when I'm 80! (By then, I might be regretting my insistence on a top-tube!) On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:18:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I forgot to add that the bike has one of the prettiest forks I've seen -- > perfect bend and taper. > > How long are the chainstays? What does this do to the handling? you > mention the stability, and I seem to recall Mark taking an earlier > long-stayed prototype on the Mt. Diablo dirt climb and finding the bike did > very well, but what about the signature Rivendell "turn in"? > > I'd be interested to learn how the bike handles, that is to say: what are > its handling qualities, and how the design factors contribute to them. (I > realize that this may require a collaborative sort of response from the > list.) > > Interesting: used to be that 42.5 cm chainstays were long; that was the > length of the original All Rounder's stays and of my first custom's, and > IIRC, those of the '92 XO-1 and of Riv's early roads. Now I take 44- 45 as > normal -- all the recent bikes I've owned have had stays of this length: > the '99 and the '03, the Fargo, the Monocog 29er, and the old Herse. (Well, > the Ken Rogers had very short chainstays -- the rear wheel almost or > perhaps actually overlapped the seat tube -- but that was a trike.) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Anne, you'll have to bring your Prince to Minneapolis for a big ride in the snow! Post some pictures with it all loaded up when get to that point. Also, Manny has a small item for you from me; be sure he doesn't keep it! RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Any Rivsters in Pittsburgh?
Let me know; am coming to your fair city (but without a bike) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is Born
Joyce! Most excellent to see your post! Glad to hear your Atlantis is working out so well, and hoping we cross paths again! -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500
Karen, I note with such sadness the reason you are selling your bike. I hope your pup is okay and gets the surgery s/he needs. I know that there are people out here on this list who are in the 5'2" /75-76cm pbh or know someone who loves bikes who's this size; Manny and I aren't the only ones. GOOD little bikes are hard to design, and the QB is a spectacular bike. Not many of these out there. I know that Riv has a tough time selling the small bikes, and I find this a bit of a sad commentary. Certainly there are a lot of short women who would love this bike. (men too, but not as many) Karen, if I find someone, are you open to shipping? I hope that things work out in good ways. yours, RCW who just lost her most beloved standard poodle in february -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Liesl's Custom arrives in Minneapolis on ~April 10
Hey friends, work's been busy, I've been outta town, and we just got a dump of about 6" of cement-like spring snow. What a cheery thing, then, to talk to Will at Riv, go through the final invoice lists for the parts, and get the UPS shipping notice! The little custom appaloosa is slated to be shipped to my place of work on April 10. I'll keep all posted on a Twin Cities Debut date, time, and locale. Maybe a nice casual ride through the river trails. Who knows, there might even be free rides for the wee folk! grinning with anticipation, RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500
Yay!! I hope pooch, QB, and you remain a happy family for a long time! -rcw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
H, this is curious. In the process of procrastinating on a little work, I went to one of the links: *"Normcore*—it was funny, but it also effectively captured the self-aware, stylized blandness I’d been noticing... They had been using it in a slightly different sense, not to describe a particular look but a general attitude: embracing sameness deliberately as a new way of being cool, rather than striving for “difference” or “authenticity.” In fashion, though, this manifests itself in ardently ordinary clothes. Mall clothes. Blank clothes. The kind of dad-brand non-style you might have once associated with Jerry Seinfeld, but transposed on a Cooper Union student with William Gibson glasses." I think this does not describe Riv at all. I think Riv designs things (bikes, bags, clothes, etc) that, foremost, they like and use, and they have skilled craftsman make these things. "embracing sameness deliberately as a new way of being cool" couldn't be more opposite from Riv. Although I do fondly recall that the first write-up of the wooly warm tweed sweater was that it could be worn on Baffin Island; perhaps this got confused with Iceland? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Rivish Bike shops in Auckland NZ?
Hi all, any kiwis out there who know of Rivish bike shops in Auckland? We're flying out tomorrow evening (with any luck, we might see the eclipse out the plane window!) with our Riv'ed out Bike Fridays in tow. T'would be nice to have the Saluki along, but I gotta tell you, the Fridays are just great.We'll be on the North Island mostly in Auckland, Rotorura, and points north of Auckland. Thanks in advance for any ideas. cheers, Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bag for mustache bars?
I have four bikes with m'bars and while I love them, sympathize with the handlebar bag issues. I've found the following to be my favs: The Keven's bag / Sackville SaddleSack is fantastic, carries more than you'd think, and can go front or back. The SaddleSack has the advantage of easy tabs to open it one-handed and the reflector strip. The other great option is a Mark's rack and a L'il Loafer or a small Sackville TrunkSack. These two options are not mutually exclusive, and one can put other larger things in the rack as well. Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cloth Tape, Twine, Shellac and Vanity
I've found that there's also variation in the honey color of the saddle itself. Just recently I tried orange cloth tape underneath with 6 coats of Bullseye amber and the final tone was very close to a darker honey seat that I have. I've used both amber Bullseye and Velo flakes on yellow cloth tape and synthetic cork tape and they are a good match for lighter seats. I agree on the 5-6 coats. Also, amber over kelly green is a good match for the british green brooks. Also, for twining, waxed irish linen in 3-ply or 5-ply comes in many colors and takes the shellack well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB 58cm QuickBeam..
I don't have a quickbeam for sale, but thought you might be interested in how I made my own QB out of a protobleriot frame (51cm sandblasted clear-coat). I had rich build rear wheel with a white eno hub. Works like a charm. Light, mindless, comfortable commuter. You could do the same with any riv frame your size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
I tried the Grip Kings and, to my dismay, the proportions and axle location didn't work for me. I have a short wide foot, women's size 6, and wear very soft shoes when I ride (chuck taylors, soft-soled moccasins). The GP's were long for my foot but I think I could've gotten over that; it was more that the axle doesn't extend to the cage (port/starboard, not bow/stern so to speak) and created a lump toward the center of the pedal right under the ball of my foot. (This also happens with the new EZ quick-release MKS pedals.) I've wound up staying with the MKS touring pedals and found a home for the GK's. I'd recommend seeing if you can borrow a pair and try 'em out wearing your softest regular riding shoe before you make the purchase. Has anyone tried the VO City or Touring pedals? liesl minneapolis On May 11, 9:39 am, bwgride wrote: > I have the grip king. It is well made and smooth, but I found it was > not comfortable for me because the pedal, while long, is not wide. My > feet tended to roll to the outside. I use BMX style pedals now which > are wider. > > On May 11, 9:26 am, sean wrote: > > > > > Hi Group, > > > Thinking of pulling the trigger on some Grip Kings, but am concerned > > about their dimensions. Basically, I want to be able to ride in any > > and all shoes/sneakers especially Chuck Taylor type shoes (actually > > Keen Coronados) and Birkenstocks. Currently I am using the MKS Touring > > with cages, which worked great with Sambas over the years but now > > they're hurting my feet. My question is: are the Grip Kings too long > > for say a size 7-8 shoe? I have wide feet but not very big feet. I am > > concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > > my feet. how do the GR9s compare? Any comments appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Sean > > Austin, TX > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Anyone out there tried 'em? http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Very nice. How do you like the cork grips with your mustaches? Do you ride much up in the curved part and, if so, is the cork still comfortable? Liesl On May 16, 7:25 am, Blindrobert wrote: > I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the > results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv > site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better > after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is > Frances Cycles custom "fixtonneur" that I had made, sizing is in the > Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is > my city bike/commuter now. I love it. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507100/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3728706127/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duluth pack
Check out Frost River, which, after a hiatus, is back in the saddle. I believe when the Frost River folks parted ways with Duluth Pack folks, they got the old riv patterns in the deal? I'm guessing it was Frost River that was making the Baggins Keven's Bag and the Baggins Loafers before Baggins Hobits went away to be replaced by the Sackville Hobits--worksmanship on the Baggins looks identical to other Frost River products I own. But you'll see these FR bags are truer to the old Baggins saddlebag and pannier designs than the new Duluth Packs. Incidently, I love both companies. cheers, liesl in minneapolis http://www.frostriver.com/bike_bags/bikebags_menu.html On May 17, 11:20 am, scott wrote: > Hey everyone, > I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. > Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a > saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of > the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar > version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New tires at RBW
I used to run nifty swifties and switched to col de la vies on my saluki; they are nice, comfy, all-purpose tires that don't break the bank. I have maxy fastys on my single-speed protobleriot and the set up feels light and fast. I commute 20 miles a day from south Minneapolis to downtown St. Paul (but don't do it every day) and haven't had a flat (knock on wood) on any of them over the past four years. cheers, liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 2?
On May 30, 4:35 pm, John Speare wrote: > And another:http://johndogfood.com/john/BstoneAtlantis.html > > My buddy found this at our local Goodwill for $12.99. Whoa! Thanks for posting the photos! -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivvish bike shops in the DC area?
Hi all, I'm heading to Washington DC tomorrow for a business trip full of lectures and wondering if folks know of Rivvish bikes shops where I can find relief from tedium? I may have my Bike Friday with me. thanks, liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivvish bike shops in the DC area?
Thanks a million; I'll check out College Park Bikes when I'm free! – liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Frame bags
On Apr 19, 12:30 pm, Pondero wrote: > "...but I couldn't help but think that a frame bag made out of the same > material as the SaddleSacks would be fantastic. Even a smallish one that > mounted up to the HT, TT, DT junction would be great. I'm curious what > others think." > > Totally agree. Fantastic idea. Me, too! I'd be an "EA" and pre-order (as long as there was a size for the little Riv's). -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: new Roadeo
"Everybody knows red bikes are faster!" You mean I'd go even slower if my Saluki weren't red? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about White Ind Dos Freewheel
Hi Eric, chiming in late here, but FWIW: I have a DOS and find that I like it for going back and forth between my regular wheel and my dynohubbed wheel. It's not an on-the-fly change, but it sure makes the whole swap out really quick/efficient and then easier on my aging knees. -Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upcoming Hunqa
I, too, have the old flat Woodies on my Saluki. I think I've had 'em since 2008? I l,ove them and they've held up really really well. My frame is little, and I had to do some mucking about with spacers and drilling holes for the fender stay because they came with a vertical tab (you can see this tab in one of Tom's photos above). They also used to have a double--what do you call them?--wire fender struts which are a pain, but they've changed that to an SKS-like single strut--you can also see this in Tom's photos. All that said, I love them. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rationalizing a Reduction; Encourage Me
I echo the comments about keeping the QB. I'm also glad to see the Yves on the keep list; that one you can ride 'til you're Jimmy Carter's age. As for a beater, while important to have one, they can come and go. Good luck. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Top 10 Tips for a 1st Timer S24O?
Greetings Fellow Rivsters, Well finally I'm going on my first proper S24O next weekend (by proper I mean no vehicle "meet you there" support) with a few friends. I'm an avid camper and have ridden cross- country on my motorcycle countless times in the olden days–but this is my first true bicycle camping adventure. Most of my riding is my urban commute, 20 miles r/t, which I do year 'round here in Minneapolis/St. Paul . Here's what I have: -Saluki with mustaches, B17, MKS touring pedals, a mini rack up front and nitto big back rack -various bags to choose from depending on load (Baggins Adam, Baggins panniers, Shopsack & basket, etc) -Eureka Spitfire tent -crappy sleeping bag but it'll do -snow peak mess kit -trangia stove -repair kit/tube/pump/water bottle, etc -something warm to put on at night -flashlight -some food -a flask with drambuie Okay! Gimme your top ten tips! your pal Liesl Happy-May-Day-to-all-the-Locals in the Twin Cities -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top 10 Tips for a 1st Timer S24O?
On May 14, 11:07 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: "perhaps I missed its previous mention... but...Coffee! Coffee thermos/ mug/cup. French press is amazingly easy but does require the press. They are cheap from REI etc and you can get small-ish ones. (Snow Peak actually makes a titanium one. It may not be the best coffee-maker material, but titanium stuff is almost magical just to hold! :)) Making French press coffee benefits from (may require; I've never tried without) a really coarse grind. So you may have to grind it yourself or get it ground separately from other coffee you get. You *can* get a portable manual grinder and grind it at camp... but pre- measured pre-ground coffee in a baggie or a nalgene bottle is what I've always done. Love coffee though I do, I have my limits. . . " Ah, a gent after my own heart. My mess includes the following coffee set-up: a 700 Snow Peak mug coupled with a Jetboil french press adapter, which fits the 700 poifectly! Much cheaper than the Snow Peak complete french press if you already have the 700. And I have a 450 double-walled Ti Snow Peak mug, which I use every single morning, camping or no. (My other Snow Peak every-day-carry is the short spork, or as I call it, my stubby.) http://shop.jetboil.com/index.php/coffee-press.html http://www.backcountry.com/snow-peak-cookware Because I'm no spring chicken and embarrass myself with a fully loaded bike on hills, I'm endeavoring to as little as I can get away with. When I car-camp, I absolutely delight in my Bellman Stove-Top Espresso and Cappuccino Maker and my Hario hand-grinder. Pure heaven. Perhaps I should hide them in one of the strong young buck's saddle bags http://kasbahouse.com/detail.asp?product_id=55 http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/Hario-Skeleton-Skerton-Coffee-Mill-p/scg11550-50.htm -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I really do love my dog but...
...she ate my wool devolds while I was in the shower! And it's not the first time! Okay, there, I vented. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fitting a big Big Back Rack to a Little Riv
Here's a tip for those of us with PBH's in the mid- to high- 70's range and little Riv frames but have for one reason or another a large sized Big Back Rack: the Nitto 12 cm bent struts from the Mark's Rack do the trick. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top 10 Tips for a 1st Timer S24O?
All the tips are great (not only for me but like Minh says for others contemplating the adventure as well), I tend to be the firm checklist type and err on the side of bringing too much so I am really trying to relax in the spirit of the S24O "Just Ride" chapter and just give it a whirl. And the boys I am going with will help on that front; they are fly-by-the-seat-of-their-pants dudes who are newish dads who are just psyched to recover a glimmer their pre-dad days and/or community artists. see http://www.artshantyprojects.org/ to get a flavor of the adventures we have in the winter But now the fly in the ointment is heavy storms are predicted that afternoon and night, so we might need to reschedule. (I commute 20 miles in the winter in Minneapolis and in the olden days, I'd ride 400 mile days in the rain across Kansas on my Beemer, so I'm not a weather wimp--but I'm not so interested in my first S24O having the high likelyhood of a battle with a storm.) Will keep y'all posted. Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 4ish years. Same picture, Different story each time.
Oh Manny, this project and resulting collection is really superb. The Handlebar Diaries. I absolutely love it. Thank you so much for putting it together and sharing it. Liesl Raining-Cats-n-Dogs-But-the-Cats-Hate-It-More in Minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Ride it!
On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson wrote: > I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon in a > funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, "Yeh, that's > real popular... with the ladies." > Hmmm. The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, "Home of the Jucy Lucy". Could this be the place? Except a waiter is rare--if ever-- mostly it's waitresses. If it isn't the place, put it on your list 'cause it's the real deal. Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the walls. The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a "molten core" and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one before. If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese. The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just "a Premium" but they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the joint up. Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I added the first year I moved to Minneapolis. Riv content: nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off my year of Juicy Lucys. Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Ride it!
On May 25, 9:36 am, GeorgeS wrote: > The waitress' wear very tight T-shirts emblazoned with > "I'm Juicy." The Matt's t-shirts (and it just so happens I'm wearing mine at the moment, oddly enough) says "Fear the Cheese" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grant in Minneapolis was Most Excellent!
What a great evening at Hiawatha Cyclery. Good people, tons of bike eye candy, heaps of meat and beer, and a most gracious guest of honor. And a special bonus, Grant's daughter was there too. Many jokes about every time her dad visits, the Betty Foy gets more reflector tape stuck to it. Rivs represented: Custom, Atlantis, Quickbeam, Saluki, Hilson, Beriot, Protovelo Bleriot, Hillbourne, Foy, Hungapillar Diagatuber...Am I missing any that were there? Also nice to match list-serv posters with faces and to meet list-serv lurkers! Finished off with an adventuresome sunset ride into Minnehaha Falls and the trails around Fort Snelling. Many flooded low spots left unforded; however, we did see what I'm pretty sure was a large spiny soft shelled turtle in the water! http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=26 It was really wonderful. Thanks Jim and crew for all your hard work and generosity. And thanks Grant for you support and friendship. Liesl Riv Chica Warrior who is not embarrassed to walk up a steep hill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant in Minneapolis was Most Excellent!
Dang Eric! No slight intended on the SimpleOne! In fact, I was thinking of it and then remembered I'd forgotten the Foy, and in the process got the Foy in but forgot the SimpleOne. Is it old age or a hangover? No, no, I didn't drink that much... -RCW Oh and PS: Grant rode a Nice Ride (https://www.niceridemn.org/) bike and raved about the whole concept. Yep, the Twin Cities are bike- friendly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bosco / Sackville shopping
Whoa Thomas! That bike is seriously Sacked up! Double decker! I love it! (plus not to mention the great reports on the Bosco's) Yours, Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1s-6wzG02dkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant in Minneapolis was Most Excellent!
Thanks everyone for posting photos! It's funny how I look much taller in person. Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rt4D6U8DJi8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest
And I'm the dapper gal attired in the harris tweed vest, stetson (yes, stetson) wool driving cap, Ibex pinstriped knickers, macrostie town & country boots (http://www.bigfoottrail.com/repair.html), and those luscious beloved most sadly discontinued gray wool monkey socks. (I provide these details in the reverent way that some describe the hunt for long cage silver derailers that can accommodate 36T cogs) rare sightings of Liesl in her native habitat can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/7331727518/in/set-72157630036777900/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/7331712974/in/set-72157630036777900/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/7331707676/in/set-72157630036777900/ (best shot of the stetson for you hat lovers) and more importantly, rare sightings of the little red saluki: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/7328426500/in/set-72157630029377718 Alas, there were no sightings of Riv Chica Warrior in her red cape and bike-thief-capturing lasso; however if you look closely, you can make out the magic car-deflecting leather bracelets -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9K30dHeaUzwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: the longer trail
Holy Moly, Brian, what a handsome Hunq! Simply beautiful! Woody's fenders? -admiringly, liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W9HcyLb-TXkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Women Lurkers! Behold the Pedal Wrench!
Greetings Riv Chicas who read more than post! If you're like me, you have been in situations where you didn't have quite the right tool and/or didn't have quite the 'nough strength. I myself have uttered choice words whilst attempting to remove/install pedals. 1) A normal open-ended wrench is often too thick to fit in there, and 2) if it does fit, it's too short for my small 53 year-old women's hands to loosen them when they're tight and I'm trying to remember that the left side is reverse threaded. I finally invested 17 bucks in Riv's "venerable" Unior No. 61 Pedal Wrench. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tl017.htm If you struggle with numbers 1 and 2 above, you too will call this wrench venerable. Made switching out my pedals last night easy-peasy. You still have to remember that the left side is reverse threaded, but with this wrench, that's the only thing you need to focus on (and maybe adding a little grease to the threads). It could become among a bykin' girl's best friends. -liesl always-appreciates-good-mechanic-tips in minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WN7s6ebR6KsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags and smaller bikes
Yep, got the short legs and little frame, too. My go-to is a Carradice Barley. I switch it back and forth between a 50cm Saluki and a 51cm ProtoBleriot. The Saluki has a Nitto Mark's Rack that is really adjustable so it can snuggle up against the seat post under the seat AND ride low above the fender. Barley fits like a charm. On the Proto, there's no rear rack and the Barley snuggles up against the seat post under the seat even more so that it's forward of the highest spot on the fender. I carry a host of important things and detritus in my saddle bag and with a keven's bag or little loafer up front, I can carry most things I need except a computer (trypical for the Barley: tube, pump, a few tools, seat cover, irish straps, maps, rain gear, room for something warm to take off or put on, a snack, etc). It also has lashing loops on it. It's been a consistent great set-up for non-hauling rides. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AoFj_LilDn0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What’s Driving the 650B Explosion? Interviews, Tech Breakdown & More! - Bike Rumor
Funny that Riv/Grant, who it's fair to say started the whole dang thing, isn't mentioned at all (at least in my cursory review) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OV8HN4aiuYEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW
Welcome to the group! A fount of information and opinions–much of it even quite useful! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/01JE9WlMH1wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell "Hoss" saddlebag, $100 + shipping
Hey yeah, Patrick, I too thought you were keeping your Hoss til your dyin' days! What's the deal? Liesl Not-Givin'-Up-My-Adam-Neither in sunny minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YHhIHYKsQQ8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell "Hoss" saddlebag, $100 + shipping
where else, I ask, does one see such a combination of business acumen, literary command, and sophomoric wordplay than in the RBW Owners Bunch? Knock knock. Who's there? Sam and Janet. Sam and Janet Who? (sung confidently:) "Sam and Janet Evening..." (...you may see a stranger/you may see a stranger/across a crowded room) emerson good knock-knock jokes Okay I promise to stop now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NOZaa-o7haUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bosco handlebar gets my feet numb
I am loving the "stop" painted on the road as the bike rolls on through. great highway and outer sunset for some of it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B15LjbNbmMQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivish bike shop in New Haven CT?
Hi friends, out traveling here with my sweetie and 2 Bike Fridays. Any suggestions for us? -Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6FzAI5c61asJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Slat Grill is poifect for the well-equipped, food-loving S24O
Hi friends, I know there's been some previous discussion of not posting shameless promotions; however, I really think the Slat Grill is a Rivish item that you might not ever be aware of otherwise. It's a really simple portable camping grill perfect for a groovy S24O. I have no vested interest in the product other than I have one. It's incredibly versitle and couldn't be more simple. AND you can cook some really cool stuff on it. Plus it's made right here in Roseville, MN and the guy who designed it loves to eat great food. He cooked me a grilled pear with gorganzola cheese and honey that was out of this world. AND it fits in a Baggins Adam. Okay. 'nough said. http://huckberry.com/brands/356 Liesl in hot-n-steamy minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vAtQM7fugxgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I love my seersucker!
'Tis furnace-hot and sauna-steamy here in the Twin Cities. I need four more MUSA seersuckers! Bring 'em back! I bought some non-MUSAs and there's just no comparison. The MUSAs are more puckery and better weight and better details. Why oh why didn't I get some plaids when I had the chance? Just in case, I'd take a small or a medium... Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O2Ih7JyWkLEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Gals on a tour!
This morning on my way I to work, I came across 3 women with bikes fully loaded crossing the Mississippi River on the Marshall Avenue Bridge. They're on a cross-country tour from Seattle to NYC, their home port. Didn't get their names, but one was on a blue LHT. Made my heart sing. If you come across 'em, tell them the woman on the Mississippi bridge in the Twin Cities says "You still rock!" Liesl Wish-I-were-younger-and-could-go-on-a-huge-time-consuming-adventure-again in Minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-zLtDivxwfgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
