A few comments, etc... on vision: I have to say that the vision all long has been Grant and his merry band who dreamt up the Appaloosa. I rode the smallest protoype they and and fell in love. Then I rode a Hunq for the S24O in the Mt. Diablo foothills and fell in love with the confidence that came from 55mm tires. So my vision was just scooped up from everyone else. The big monkey wrenches I threw in were my PBH and an insistence on a top tube AND diagatubes. But I must also again give the nod to Keven, who told me to stand firm on all these wishes, especially the tire size; "Grant can figure it out. Give him a challenge."
On Patrick M.: I THINK the chainstays are around 55cm, so crazy long—but someone at Riv should confirm. And I don't even know what 'the signature Rivendell "turn in"' is, so you'll have to elaborate. I know that will be a challenge as you are so shy to post. On Handling: I got a great tutorial from Grant on the challenges of designing a bike for a short/small person. It's hard to do right and as a result, most tend to be tippy/twitchy. I would invite Grant to offer his ideas because I'll not do it justice. What I can say is that as a short woman who's been around the block a few times, I've had my share of ill-fitting, ill-handling bikes. Not this one. You get on and it feels right, rock-solid, go anywhere, do anything, feel like it's a part of you. that was instant. I think Manny felt it too—but Manny, I'd love it if you chime in too. On My cold: finally improving. On seeing it up close: Folks passing through the Twin Cities are welcome to contact me to see the bike; just contact me off-list. And yes, I'm on cloud nine and speechless, and expect to be riding it when I'm 80! (By then, I might be regretting my insistence on a top-tube!) On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:18:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I forgot to add that the bike has one of the prettiest forks I've seen -- > perfect bend and taper. > > How long are the chainstays? What does this do to the handling? you > mention the stability, and I seem to recall Mark taking an earlier > long-stayed prototype on the Mt. Diablo dirt climb and finding the bike did > very well, but what about the signature Rivendell "turn in"? > > I'd be interested to learn how the bike handles, that is to say: what are > its handling qualities, and how the design factors contribute to them. (I > realize that this may require a collaborative sort of response from the > list.) > > Interesting: used to be that 42.5 cm chainstays were long; that was the > length of the original All Rounder's stays and of my first custom's, and > IIRC, those of the '92 XO-1 and of Riv's early roads. Now I take 44- 45 as > normal -- all the recent bikes I've owned have had stays of this length: > the '99 and the '03, the Fargo, the Monocog 29er, and the old Herse. (Well, > the Ken Rogers had very short chainstays -- the rear wheel almost or > perhaps actually overlapped the seat tube -- but that was a trike.) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
