Bobbie, I was struck by how many of us had stingrays as well.  And the 
photo of the Orange Krate reveals my not wanting to ride more than a 
block/1% grade.  It was so heavy and not even upright—it was laid back!  I 
mean check out the picture:  the springer front end was probably 7 pounds 
all by itself!  I am not a weight-weenie, but I swear that bike weighed 45 
pounds unloaded. When I was maybe 12,  I rode it on some organized youth 
ride in the country and I thought I was gonna DIE.

Riv Chica Warrior remembering when she was Baby Riv Chica Warrior

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