Re: [RBW] Bag options on an Albastache bar?

[Frank Brose]

I use a Riv Banana bag. 
Frank

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:57:33 PM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> This is and old moustache bar build from several years ago but this 
> upcycled military surplus style small saddle bag worked great, both on the 
> moustache bar as well as in the similar central ‘pocket’ of some butterfly 
> trekking bars.  Same thing with the smaller VO Croissant bag pictured on 
> the saddle. 
>
>  I’m now using the same bag on a Chocomoose bar and it does snug up better 
> with the stick mount on the flat center of the Chocomoose than it did with 
> the dirt drop stem and moustache bar or trekking bar, since the stick tends 
> to hit the stem bolts, but the size and shape otherwise tuck well into the 
> curve of the moustache style bars.  Certainly not as roomy as some larger 
> bags like a Ron’s Chest but no interference with the brakes or grips that I 
> recall and the saddle loop strap spacing pretty much fits within the same 
> space.  Maybe if you have enough room to offset the bag below the levers 
> like I would with a tall frame you may have greater clearance between a 
> bigger bag and the grips/levers.  I just never tried any bags larger than 
> shown here with this setup, unfortunately.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Brian Cole
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Plenty of options if you use a saddlebag!
>>
>> Patrick "all rear loading all the time" Moore
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:22 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
>> wrote:
>>
> So I'm wondering what my options are for bags on an Albastache setup. I 
>>> currently have a Mark's rack with an Acorn Bags boxy Random, but I'd rather 
>>> run something like a Ron's Bikes Fabio's Chest. Has anyone done this? Is it 
>>> possible?!?!? :) 
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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

$115 for the frost river bags shipped.

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:11:45 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Sure. I'll sell the cranks. PM me and let me know which ones you're 
> interested in.
> Frank
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:41:34 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
> NJ wrote:
>
>> Are you selling the cranks in the picture???
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-4 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> I have the following for sale.
>>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag 
>>> I'd like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new 
>>> condition. 
>>> read about them here: 
>>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The 
>>> Riv bags are in good shape.
>>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

All gone except the banana bag on the far right $35 shipped if any one is 
interested. If not I'll hang on to it.
Thanks,
Frank

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 4:25:24 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:

> $115 for the frost river bags shipped.
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:11:45 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> Sure. I'll sell the cranks. PM me and let me know which ones you're 
>> interested in.
>> Frank
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:41:34 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
>> NJ wrote:
>>
>>> Are you selling the cranks in the picture???
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-4 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have the following for sale.
>>>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag 
>>>> I'd like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new 
>>>> condition. 
>>>> read about them here: 
>>>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>>>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>>>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>>>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The 
>>>> Riv bags are in good shape.
>>>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>>>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>>>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>>>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>>>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>>>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

All gone. Thanks to all.
Frank

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:22:50 AM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:

> All gone except the banana bag on the far right $35 shipped if any one is 
> interested. If not I'll hang on to it.
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 4:25:24 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> $115 for the frost river bags shipped.
>>
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:11:45 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> Sure. I'll sell the cranks. PM me and let me know which ones you're 
>>> interested in.
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:41:34 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak, 
>>> Woodstown NJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you selling the cranks in the picture???
>>>>
>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-4 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have the following for sale.
>>>>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag 
>>>>> I'd like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new 
>>>>> condition. 
>>>>> read about them here: 
>>>>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>>>>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>>>>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>>>>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The 
>>>>> Riv bags are in good shape.
>>>>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even 
>>>>> visible when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum 
>>>>> polish. $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>>>>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>>>>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>>>>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Frank Brose]

Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They 
are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are 
second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have 
a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would 
fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've 
had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
to find someone to take it off your hands. 
Frank

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>  
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
> Thanks, everyone.

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Frank Brose]

Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried to 
get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
Frank 

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They 
> are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are 
> second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have 
> a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would 
> fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've 
> had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>
> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by Curt 
> Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If the 
> builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as 
> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>
> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the re-paint 
> (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and re-painted 
> Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are the 
> giveaway)
>  
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/591659724221291/permalink/5766806640039881/> 
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
> Thanks, everyone.
>

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[RBW] FS German Mirror

[Frank Brose]

Same deal as Eric offered up. His post reminded me I have one as well. NIB. 
Has been removed from bag but put back in bag and in the box. $15 plus 
shipping.
thanks,
Frank

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Re: [RBW] FS German Mirror

[Frank Brose]

Have one pending Nick Your next in line.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 3:15:56 PM UTC-5 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m interested if you still have it.Have pay pal too.
>
> Nick L.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Frank Brose  wrote:
>
> Same deal as Eric offered up. His post reminded me I have one as well. 
> NIB. Has been removed from bag but put back in bag and in the box. $15 plus 
> shipping.
> thanks,
> Frank
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[RBW] Re: 26.0 bar in 25.4 clamp?

[Frank Brose]

In a situation like this I either buy a different stem or buy a different 
bar. If it's visa versa with a 26 stem and a 25.4 bar you can use a shim 
but what you propose isn't meant to be.
Frank

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 3:05:02 PM UTC-5 chasenl...@gmail.com wrote:

> how do you all make this happen? 
>
> i have only successfully done it once and the toll was high- huge and 
> noticeable cosmetic damage to the nitto dirt drop stem and to the sleeveish 
> clamp bar of nitto noodle bars.
>
> basically i wanna run a 25.4 technomic stem with some wide nitto drops, 
> without fudging up either too badly. i have noticed that while noodles have 
> a sleeve and crust bars in 26.0 have more of a ramp, does this make a 
> difference?  
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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

Don't be afraid to make an offer. Worst that can happen is I say no. 
Frank

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> I have the following for sale.
> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag I'd 
> like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new condition. 
> read about them here: https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The Riv 
> bags are in good shape.
> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
> [image: P1020495.JPG]
> [image: P1020496.JPG]
> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

Seatpost has been sold.
Frank

On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:35:03 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Don't be afraid to make an offer. Worst that can happen is I say no. 
> Frank
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> I have the following for sale.
>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag I'd 
>> like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new condition. 
>> read about them here: 
>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The Riv 
>> bags are in good shape.
>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

$210  net to me for the Frost river bags and the two Riv banana bags. Buyer 
pays actual shipping.
Frank

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:24:09 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Seatpost has been sold.
> Frank
>
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:35:03 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> Don't be afraid to make an offer. Worst that can happen is I say no. 
>> Frank
>>
>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> I have the following for sale.
>>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag 
>>> I'd like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new 
>>> condition. 
>>> read about them here: 
>>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The 
>>> Riv bags are in good shape.
>>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

Lets make it $190 net to me for the Frost river bags and the two Riv banana 
bags. Buyer pays actual shipping. 
Frank


On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 11:21:23 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> $210  net to me for the Frost river bags and the two Riv banana bags. 
> Buyer pays actual shipping.
> Frank
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:24:09 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> Seatpost has been sold.
>> Frank
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:35:03 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> Don't be afraid to make an offer. Worst that can happen is I say no. 
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have the following for sale.
>>>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag 
>>>> I'd like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new 
>>>> condition. 
>>>> read about them here: 
>>>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>>>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>>>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>>>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The 
>>>> Riv bags are in good shape.
>>>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>>>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>>>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>>>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>>>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>>>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

Sure. I'll sell the cranks. PM me and let me know which ones you're 
interested in.
Frank

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:41:34 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
NJ wrote:

> Are you selling the cranks in the picture???
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-4 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> I have the following for sale.
>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag I'd 
>> like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new condition. 
>> read about them here: 
>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The Riv 
>> bags are in good shape.
>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Frank Brose]

No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had both 
and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. Just sayin
Frank 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Hey Jerry,
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers were 
> limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Atlantis 55 for sale 
>> 
>> groups.google.com 
>> 
>> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>>
>> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand over 
>> my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so would love 
>> to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" wheelsets).
>>
>> Jerry Lynn
>> Imperial Beach CA
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[RBW] 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Frank Brose]

Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis 
for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done 
business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU

Frank

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 170mm 110BCD crank arms

[Frank Brose]

So are you all set now?
If not I have some Sugino 170's if you're still looking.
Frank

On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 2:16:56 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I picked up a set of those as well to check out based on your review. I 
> have another frame that I am going to be building up soon and it will be a 
> perfect test bed.
>
> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 2:14:45 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> Did you find the Origin8 cranks Johnny ?  They are listed as in stock @ 
>> both Ebay(retailer Bikewagon) and Amazon, if you had not. 
>> I would not have brought this crank to light unless I knew it was 
>> available !!! 
>>  
>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 12:09:53 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> As closure, I realized that while 170 was not available, the New Albion 
>>> cranks came in the mid size of 172.5 and those were available everywhere.  
>>> But I still am going to complain about the waning supplies of bike parts.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 11:50:21 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Garth! I will check to see if any place has the Origin8 in stock 
 in the size/color I am looking for.

 CoalTrain, I did check there before posting here. They have stuff in 
 stock but not in the size/color combination I am looking for.

 On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:50:08 AM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:

> Have you checked https://www.modernbike.com/s?search=new+Albion+crank 
> ? They usually have New Albion. and Sugino in stock. 
> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 8:56:24 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> This whole supply problem with bike parts thing is starting to bother 
>> me. :)
>>
>> I picked up the Charlie Gallop sample frame and plan to make it a 
>> 1X11 setup.  I am going to pick up a wolf tooth chainring (this is 
>> pretty 
>> easy to find) but need some crank arms to go with it. My preferred size 
>> is 
>> 170 and preferred color is silver. The combination is impossible to find 
>> in 
>> anything affordable. So I am looking for a Sugino xd, New Albion (riv 
>> calls 
>> this the clipper) or Silver crank arm set. If you need to unload it with 
>> rings I am ok with that. Silver, 170mm, 110 bcd, square taper in good 
>> shape.  Anyone have anything like that?
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: New ReneHERSE 700x42 Hurricane Ridge Tires

[Frank Brose]

Sent you a message.I'll take them.

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:53:58 AM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:

> Hello, Yesterday I receive a new Rivendell Homer Hilsen complete with 
> ReneHERSE 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires (Knobbystache). After a 5 mile bike 
> path ride I really liked these tires but with this bicycle being my "road 
> bike" I decided to go with Schwalbe 700x42 Little Big Bens. "fast pavement 
> to deep mud or snow"- ReneHERSE website. Retail $156/pair + shipping.  
> Asking $100 + shipping. Thanks. More pictures available.

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[RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Saddle, Compass tires.

[Frank Brose]

My mistake forgot to edit prices.
$200 for the saddle
$85 for the tires

Sorry,
Frank

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 8:58:01 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Berthoud Vars Titanium New in box.Never mounted. $205 shipped
>
> Compass Lierre 650b-36 less than 10 miles on them Mounted them on a 
> conversion took one ride and sold the bike. $85 for the pair shipped
>   I will consider 
> offers. Worst that could happen is I say no, Right?
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
> [image: P1020299 (800x600).jpg][image: P1020300 (800x600).jpg][image: 
> P1020304 (800x600).jpg][image: P1020305 (800x600).jpg]
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[RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Saddle, Compass tires

[Frank Brose]

Tires are all that remains. Make me an offer if you are the least bit 
interested.
Thanks,
Frank

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:07:03 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Berthoud Vars Titanium New in box.Never mounted. $200 shipped
>
> Compass Lierre 650b-36 less than 10 miles on them Mounted them on a 
> conversion took one ride and sold the bike. $80 for the pair shipped
>   I will consider 
> offers. Worst that could happen is I say no, Right?
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
> [image: P1020299 (800x600).jpg][image: P1020300 (800x600).jpg][image: 
> P1020304 (800x600).jpg][image: P1020305 (800x600).jpg]
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[RBW] FS Paul Thumbies

[Frank Brose]

New in package Paul Thumbies 22.2 black,  Shimano. $85 dollars shipped in 
CONUS.
https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/drivetrain/shifting/shimanothumbies/

Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Thumbies

[Frank Brose]

Pending

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 10:32:06 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> New in package Paul Thumbies 22.2 black,  Shimano. $85 dollars shipped in 
> CONUS.
>
> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/drivetrain/shifting/shimanothumbies/
>
> Thanks,
> Frank
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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Thumbies

[Frank Brose]

Sold 
Frank

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 12:17:58 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Pending
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 10:32:06 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> New in package Paul Thumbies 22.2 black,  Shimano. $85 dollars shipped in 
>> CONUS.
>>
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/drivetrain/shifting/shimanothumbies/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Frank
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS Sackville HB bag, Nitto F15, Small Trunksac.

[Frank Brose]

Sale pending.
Thanks,
Frank

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:56:42 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> My favorite handle bar bag -- Love the magnetic closure for the main flap!
> Great deal for this setup!
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 3:40:58 PM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> Everything is in excellent condition. Not a lot of use. Leather has been 
>> treated with Obenaufs.
>> I want to sell these as set. Asking  $220 net to me. I'll cover the 
>> shipping in the CONUS. PM me if you're interested.
>> Thanks,
>> Frank
>>
>> [image: P1020323.JPG]
>>
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[RBW] Re: question re Brooks leather bar tape

[Frank Brose]

Yes is the short answer but I always tend to pull leather a little tighter. 
I personally like leather tape. It'll outlast me.
Frank

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:30:11 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:

> So I splurged and bought this fancy, pricey bar tape. I'm embarrassed to 
> admit what I paid for it, but now I've got it. Does anyone have any 
> experience with it? That is, do I install it the same way I install 
> Newbaum's, or is there some special method for this stuff? 
>
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Frank Brose]

Kudos to you Max. Most people don't know what a fine  lubricant Piney The 
Younger  is.

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-6 reynoldslugs wrote:

> My tooling is modest, but the lubricants are all in order.  Phil Wood and 
> Pliny the Younger.
>
> [image: IMG_4012.JPG]
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:02:48 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice 
>> to see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my 
>> shed. 
>>
>> [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: shed4.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: MUSA pants, knickers, shorts coming back

[Frank Brose]

Had a pair on yesterday. I think I have 4 or 5 pairs and  the only 
complaint I have would be the belt. If they had a web belt they would be 
the best shorts I've ever owned. Probably still are. I'll buy more.
Frank
Tomahawk,WI

On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:14:07 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Andrew, resounding yes! MUSA shorts have been one of my favorite Riv 
> garments too. Didn't know there was a version made with mesh pockets. The 
> four pairs I own must be 6-7 years old with (thankfully) solid pockets. 
> Still going strong.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:23:13 PM UTC-4 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> I saw on the Blahg that RBW is getting in some new clothing. My MUSA 
>> shorts have been the best garment I've owned, sturdy and perfectly 
>> comfortable for hiking, riding, and general knocking about. Seemingly 
>> indestructible, yet I'll still get another pair or two. 
>> Anyone know if they'll be returning to solid pockets? My one complaint, I 
>> can't abide mesh pockets.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

[Frank Brose]

Those are neo retro up front and touring in the rear. I have the same set 
up on three different bikes. Here's a link to Pauls and you can see the 
difference.
https://www.paulcomp.com/product-category/components/brakes/cantilever-brakes/
On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 10:23:44 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:

> In this build, the brakes appear to be Paul touring cantis up front, and 
> neo retros in the rear. 
>
> I've seen this setup elsewhere, and I'm curious: what is the reason for 
> this setup? What are its advantages and disadvantages? Is the setup easier 
> to maintain, does it have better braking power, or is it just a personal 
> preference?
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/braxtons-riv-custom-pre-fenders-and-lights
>
>
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[RBW] Re: shipping costs

[Frank Brose]

I always use FedEx. 45-75 FRNs. depending where they are headed. Like
Cyclotourist stated a business address is always cheaper. Must be a
business brotherhood thing. I don't know.

On Jul 11, 3:22 pm, CCX  wrote:
> Hey Rivsters-
>
> How are you all shipping bikes (conus)?  I just looked up prices on
> UPS and FedEX and they were both in the range of 160 bucks.  Geeze
> where have I been over the years, the last time I shipped a bike it
> cost 40.00 buck.
>
> jc

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[RBW] Re: Riv downtube shifters

[Frank Brose]

I  friction shift 8 and 9 with Riv, Shimano and Suntour DT shifters. No 
Problems with any of them.
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:20:39 PM UTC-5, Lee Legrand wrote: 
>
>  Can anyone tell me does the Riv downtube shifters work on with 9 speed 
> cassettes?  Should shifting pass 8 speed with friction shifter, users 
> should use index?  I am getting mixed information about this since there is 
> some information on the internet that friction shifting is not good pass 8 
> speed rear cassettes. 
>  
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: Mackinaw Island -

[Frank Brose]

We were there for three days last summer. Never locked our bikes. Great 
place to visit. Not the cheapest place we've been but it sure was fun.

On Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:45:13 AM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

> Perry  
>
> I don't have any knowledge of theft incidents.  we didn't bother locking 
> our bikes. :)
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:13:14 AM UTC-5, bobish wrote: 
>>
>> Kelly, really enjoyed these pics. That's a place I'd love to visit. I 
>> noticed very few bikes locked (or even carrying locks) so I imagine bike 
>> theft is not a major problem there? 
>>
>> • Perry
>
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[RBW] FS NOS 56 STT Sam Hilborne

[Frank Brose]

This is new ,never built, orange canti, single top tube Sam Hilborne. 
F/F/HS and bottom bracket. I was going to swap parts and pieces off my 
Atlantis and Kogswell and build this up But I've decided to sell this one 
and others as well. It's time to downsize. A couple of pictures can be 
found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68843829@N03/
Not much to show though. The blemish on the chainstay is the only one on 
the bike and it would be covered with a chainstay protector. Asking $1050 
shipped to your door as long as your door is in the lower 48 CONUSA. Please 
contact me off list if you're interested.

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[RBW] FS Nitto Lugged Quill Stems

[Frank Brose]

So it seems I have no interest in my Hilborne frame therefore I will sell 
parts and pieces to raise some funds and make some space. Two Nitto lugged 
quill stems both are 10cm and in excellent condition. Can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68843829@N03/   $135 shipped? Please reply 
offlist.
Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto Lugged Quill Stems

[Frank Brose]

My mistake and apologies. Should read $135 Each.
Thanks,
Frank

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:44:50 PM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> So it seems I have no interest in my Hilborne frame therefore I will sell 
> parts and pieces to raise some funds and make some space. Two Nitto lugged 
> quill stems both are 10cm and in excellent condition. Can be seen here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/68843829@N03/   $135 shipped? Please reply 
> offlist.
> Thanks,
> Frank
>

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[RBW] Re: FS NOS 56 STT Sam Hilborne

[Frank Brose]

$1000 Anyone?

On Monday, September 2, 2013 10:14:45 AM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> This is new ,never built, orange canti, single top tube Sam Hilborne. 
> F/F/HS and bottom bracket. I was going to swap parts and pieces off my 
> Atlantis and Kogswell and build this up But I've decided to sell this one 
> and others as well. It's time to downsize. A couple of pictures can be 
> found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68843829@N03/
> Not much to show though. The blemish on the chainstay is the only one on 
> the bike and it would be covered with a chainstay protector. Asking $1050 
> shipped to your door as long as your door is in the lower 48 CONUSA. Please 
> contact me off list if you're interested.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS NOS 56 STT Sam Hilborne

[Frank Brose]

O.K. $950 and I'll throw in a seat post. 

On Monday, September 2, 2013 10:14:45 AM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> This is new ,never built, orange canti, single top tube Sam Hilborne. 
> F/F/HS and bottom bracket. I was going to swap parts and pieces off my 
> Atlantis and Kogswell and build this up But I've decided to sell this one 
> and others as well. It's time to downsize. A couple of pictures can be 
> found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68843829@N03/
> Not much to show though. The blemish on the chainstay is the only one on 
> the bike and it would be covered with a chainstay protector. Asking $1050 
> shipped to your door as long as your door is in the lower 48 CONUSA. Please 
> contact me off list if you're interested.
>

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Re: [RBW] Hetre/Synergy safety issue?

[Frank Brose]

 I've never had a problem. Don't know the mileage but the rear is due to be 
replaced.

On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:16:54 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

> First I have heard. I have easily 1k miles on mine... 
> On Oct 25, 2013 1:13 AM, "Michael" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Someone on a thread here says Hetre BSD size is too big for synergy rims.
>> Am I in danger using these tires with these rims?
>> I don't want them coming off while I am riding.
>> Mine seem to fit my new ( year 2012) Synergy rim fine.
>> Also my Twin Hollow rim.
>> Any advice welcome.
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[RBW] Re: Off topic: Interest Check on Sale of VINTAGE TREK 720 Touring Bike, Mint, with some Rivendellian Touches

[Frank Brose]

Give us pictures,post a price and sell it or not. Not that tough of a 
concept.

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:08:52 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Now Bob... We went through this a few years back (referring to your May 
> 2010 posts)...  What say we just go back inside and have us a nice cup o 
> Joe and reconsider this whole thing... 
>
> *Seriously, I'm one to talk... I go back and forth with my own bikes, 
> threatening to sell, then changing my mind, then wanting to sell...*Would 
> love to see pics 
> *(even if I'm not interested in buying another bike...yeah, right)* '85 
> was a great year for bikes, and the 720 was (IS) one of the greats.
>
> BB
>
> On Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:47:54 PM UTC-4, Bob wrote:
>>
>> Will have pics soon. I have too many bikes (I know that's heresy.) 
>>
>> It's basically been a work of art in my living room and seldom ridden 
>> (pity). It has been converted from 27-inch to 700c with Rich Lesnik-built 
>> wheels with proper Phil Wood hubs. Because I didn't opt to cold-set the 
>> rear triangle, the rear Phil hub is a perfect fit for the original dropout 
>> width.
>>
>> I have the original baby-blue Blackburn racks in storage, if I can find 
>> them.
>>
>> I am located on Capitol Hill DC, but if you love the bike I could get it 
>> to you. Again, pics to come.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 57 Canti-Rom and 58 Quickbeam on Paceline forum

[Frank Brose]

If they'd fit, you would be in business. Great guy to do business with and 
doesn't B.S. about the overall quality of things. I want one of them but 
know I don't need it. This self control is a tough thing to get a grip on.

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:30:54 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> And tons of other gems, including a Pegoretti.  Good thing they're a bit 
> small for me, or I'd have to buy something from this guy.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Bill Lindsay 
> > wrote:
>
>> And an Atlantis frameset
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:31:37 PM UTC-8, rcnute wrote:
>>>
>>> Now's yer chance!  Not mine.  http://forums.thepaceline.net/
>>> showthread.php?t=144019
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

[Frank Brose]

Are you looking for a complete bike or F/F/HS? 

On Friday, February 14, 2014 5:58:50 PM UTC-6, Mike C518 wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Ive been on a quest for some time now (1 year+) looking for a 56 Atlantis. 
> I would like to buy one used if possible, but am getting to the point of 
> just ordering one directly from Rivendell.  I would be willing to buy 
> strait out or do a trade if anybody is interested (Currently riding a 
> Kogswell P58). Any leads?
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

[Frank Brose]

Here it is. Maybe.


On Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:42:07 PM UTC-5, Ryan wrote:
>
> Remember that fancy fixed gear mtn  Rivendell had at NAHBS (or some other 
> handmade bicycle show)...bike was olive green with paler green 
> accents? remember the fork crown on that bike?Just sayin
> On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:42:52 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: 
>>
>> Strawberry Cycles seatstay yoke. 
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>> On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:13:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps 
>>> way too much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm 
>>> pretty sure I'm not wrong)
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

[Frank Brose]

I have VO's on my Rawland and don't have a problem with them. I wouldn't 
hesitate to buy anothe pair.

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 6:21:06 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Which is better, and why? Diffs?
>
> I have Honjos (~150$) on my Bleriot, but 150$ is a lot of money, compared 
> to ~67$ for VO's, if I ever want to replace the SKS on my Sam with metal 
> fenders.
>
> I have seen a famous blogger (not Grant)  sort of, but not so obviously, 
> refer to VO stuff as "budget", but is that really true? Or is VO stuff good 
> and pretty reliable for long term and not easy to fail?
>

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[RBW] Re: Tire wear question. When to replace?

[Frank Brose]

Replace it. You got the goody out of that tire.

On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Rear tire on Bleriot. Tread bald down center for a while now. Front tire 
> still has plenty of tread.
>
> I inspect the tire every few rides.
>
> *Is it safe to ride down 'til the tread just barely starts showing? To the 
> first peek of tan color? Or is the tire gonna rip open at that point and 
> better to swap out now?*
>
> Manufacturer/distributor/retailer told me I have about 1k left on it about 
> 1k ago.
>
> Waiting until casing starts to show or get next flat to replace it with 
> new tire. I want to get my money's worth out of the tire (really expensive) 
> and I am not a penny pinching person at all, and usually swap out tires 
> faster, but I... just...can't bring myself to replace the tire until 
> these conditions are met because the tire was so expensive.
>
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[RBW] Re: Where to buy RBW Summer Gloves now that they are gone?

[Frank Brose]

As Tim said . They are nice gloves not quite as "puffy" as Rivs but they 
wear like iron unlike Rivs. I like mine. Bought them knowing my Riv stash 
would run out and all good things Riv seem to come to an end.
http://ecom1.planetbike.com/glove9000.html

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 11:26:03 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> I love those gloves. Except for the spotty tan they give your hands. Makes 
> you look like you have liver spots or something.
>
> But I really like the terry on the back of the thumbs and the massive 
> cushiness of the huge pad.
>
> They only have those Thinny gloves now. No terrycloth snot/sweat wipers.
>
> Anyone know who manufactured them and where to find now?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

[Frank Brose]

I was happy with a flip but when it died I decided to try an iphone. Should 
have just hunted down another flip.

>
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[RBW] Re: Neat made-by-Nitto Simworks front rack

[Frank Brose]

Can anybody show me or point me to a picture of one of these mounted on a 
26" or 650b bicycle? 
Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] WTB Brooks B67

[Frank Brose]

I'm looking for a B67 for my daughter. Black is preferred but beggars can't 
be choosers.Please reply offlist.
Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] Re: WTB Brooks B67

[Frank Brose]

Found one . Thanks to all.
Frank

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 5:44:06 PM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
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> I'm looking for a B67 for my daughter. Black is preferred but beggars 
> can't be choosers.Please reply offlist.
> Thanks,
> Frank
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Heron Road 56.5cm $950

[Frank Brose]

This is beyond a really good deal. These are fantastic bikes. I had one. 
Selling it was one of many stupid bicycle deals I've made. I'd suggest 
anybody not familiar with Heron do a little homework. You'd be hard pressed 
to find one in this condition as well. If I was in the market I'd pay that 
for the frame alone and consider the parts a bonus. There's a reason you 
don't see these for sale very often.

On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 9:25:07 AM UTC-5, David Hallerman wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This first-generation Heron Road was designed by Grant Petersen in the 
> late 1990s, built by Waterford Precision Cycles, and sold by Rivendell 
> Bicycle Works. This all-steel, lugged Reynolds 531 tubing bike is in 
> impeccable condition as are all the parts, since I put only 280 dry-weather 
> miles on the odometer since its recent build with new parts.
>
> For now, though, what do I love best about this bike? Takes wider tires 
> than many road bikes, and it's balanced, elegant, and much fun to ride. 
> Parts highlights include Velocity wheels bought from Rivendell and the 
> ever-lovely Sugino Alpina silver cranks.
>
> At *$950*, I believe this is a really good deal. Note the price does not 
> include the saddle, pedals, and accessories. Detailed geometry and parts 
> info below. Please read the NOTES below, too. Note as well that I cannot 
> ship the bike right now, so the price is for pickup here in northern 
> Westchester or I'll deliver your purchase within a 25-mile (or so) distance 
> from my home.
>
> One photo attached, and more here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Cs6TrE84nN98Rem9
>
> All questions quickly answered.
>
> Dave
> +
> Hudson Valley NY
>
> *GEOMETRY*
> Seat tube (c-c) = 56.0 cm
> Top tube = 56.5 cm
> Head tube = 143 mm
> Chainstay = 42.5 mm
> Standover height = 81.0 cm
> Head tube angle = 73.5°
> Seat tube angle = 72.5°
>
> *PARTS (saddle, pedals, accessories not included)*
> Headset = Chris King 2-Nut, 1-inch threaded
> Stem = Nitto UI-2, 110mm/90°
> Cranks = Sugino Alpina, 170mm
> Chainrings = Sugino 48/34
> Cassette = Shimano Deore XT (750), 9-speed, 12x34
> Front Derailleur = Shimano Dura-Ace (7410)
> Rear Derailleur = Shimano Deore XT (750), 9-speed
> Shifters = Campagnolo Centaur, 10-speed, grey
> Brakes = Shimano Ultegra SL, grey
> Seatpost = Suntour XC Pro, 27.2mm
> Wheels = Velocity Silver hubs/Velocity Synergy rims
> Tires = Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech, 700x28
>
> *NOTES*
> The bike combines Campy Ergo shifters with a Shimano mountain rear 
> cassette and a compact crankset. The Campy-Shimano merger is powered by a 
> Shiftmate, a device I've found wonderfully reliable across dozens of bikes, 
> with indexing as accurate and smooth as single-group setups.
>

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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

[Frank Brose]

Joes' advice is great. It's simple stuff. It's like learning to ride a
bikeonce you figure it out (and that's not to tough) you just get
better. I prefer it but it's what I learned on and still think it's as
good as it gets. You have to  dance on the pedals so to speak. In
fact, given my choice of any type of shifting I could put on a bike,
it would be downtube or bar con friction. Get to know it and I think
you'll enjoy it.

On Apr 17, 3:44 pm, Zack  wrote:
> I noticed a discussion cropping up in the "New Chain Skipping" thread that
> I thought it would be worthwhile to dedicate a thread to this, as I have
> been thinking about it a bit -
>
> I am a relatively new bike rider, and change gears as it makes sense to me
> - when i feel like i need more speed, i shift, when i feel like i am not
> going to be able to get up the hill, i shift.
>
> But I never really learned the "right" way to do this.  I have learned a
> little about friction shifting just from poking around (lightening up on
> the cranks when I am about to shift, as an example) but haven't seen a
> dedicated thread to this, nor have I found a good resource.  I know for
> many of you this is intuitive basic stuff, but I never learned how to ride
> a bike from anyone that actually knew what they are doing.
>
> I generally stay in the middle ring on my front chainring (I have a triple)
> and use all of the back gears until I need more, and then I shift to either
> the big or small chainring.  I am cognizant of cross gearing, but am
> probably guilty of doing it once in a while.
>
> I have consistently had problems with chains slipping, throwing chains
> (both off the big and granny rings) across multiple bikes, which leads me
> to believe I am part of the problem.
>
> So how do you ride to ensure that you are treating the bike the way it
> should be treated?

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[RBW] Re: Trade 58 Saluki for Atlantis

[Frank Brose]

What size Atlantis?

On Apr 19, 11:50 am, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
> It's a long shot, but I figured I'd see if anyone has an Atlantis they might 
> be up for trading for my canti-Saluki (in great shape). Could do 
> frame/fork/fenders, and maybe a set of XT-hubbed Synergy wheels.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/sets/72157602102746272
>
> Cheers,
> Gino

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[RBW] Re: Rationalizing a Reduction; Encourage Me

[Frank Brose]

GRAB The following:
Gomez
Rawland
Atlantis
Bleriot

Gomez because, Well, it's a Gomez.
Rawland because they can go both ways if need be.
Atlanis because as Mathew Grimm from Kogswell fame once told me, it's
one of the best designed frames ever built.
Bleriot because set up with the right wheels and tires will be just as
fast as the Romulus.
Just my 2 cents worth.



On May 5, 12:50 pm, Ray  wrote:
> I feel a bit foolish even posting such a message, having read in the
> past so many that are similar. Bike-wise, I feel like one of the 1%,
> although I am far way from actually being a true One Percenter. So, I
> want to thin the herd, as it is so often phrased here, and am seeking
> advice from the group. Actually, I am seeking encouragement, as well
> as practical comments on the following reduction plan. Will I have my
> riding spectrum covered without too much overlap?
>
> Here is what I have:
> An Atlantis, fully rigged and used for long-distance touring;
> occassionally pulling a BOB trailer.
> A first generation Quickbeam, rigged for city commute.
> An Yves Gomez, rigged for city commute.
> A Bleriot, rigged for any kind of riding.
> A Canti-Romulus, rigged for roading.
> An un-built, new-in-the-box, Single TT Hillborne, Orange.
> A Rawland Sogn mountain bike, 650B (Used primarily on fire roads)
> A Jamis IGH commuter (my "beater" for city commute in rain)
>
> Here is how I see the garage after the reduction:
> An Atlantis (Or, maybe the Sam) for loaded tours
> An Yves Gomez for city commute
> A Canti-Rom for "fast" rides
> A Rawland Sogn for off-road

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[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis

[Frank Brose]

Jeez Mitch if you don't need it you can always sell it to me (beings
how I was late to the party) and save yourself the trouble of
searching and finding other things you probably don't need. Just
trying to help.
Frank
On May 14, 9:49 am, Mitch Browne  wrote:
> I bit on the TA Carmina triple posted this weekend.
>
> Of course I don't need it and am very happy with the Sugino XD 48/36/24
> Tange 107 BB on my daily commute Atlantis.
>
> I've looked at Peter White's website but don't readily find a Phil to fit.
> I do see an SKF on Compass.
>
> Any length suggestions for a Tange or Phil BB that would best fit this
> crank on an Atlantis? Offset advice?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mitch Browne
> San Luis Obispo, CA

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[RBW] Re: RBT on the Bay

[Frank Brose]

I have Jack Browns (33.333) on mine with fenders. Fit fine. 35's w/o
fenders would probably go  if they were to measure a true 35.

On May 16, 3:10 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> So just saw this RBT on the Bay in what would be my size for that
> frame.  Paint looks really amatuer unfortunately, wondering if that is
> 32c tires with fenders or without, anyway to squeeze 35s in there with
> no fenders?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridgestone-RB-T-59-cm-Frame-Fork-Refinished-...
>
> Thanks to anyone who has owned one and can offer words of wisdom

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[RBW] Re: RBT on the Bay

[Frank Brose]

Can't answer your question as I've never considered it. I've always
been perfectly happy with the JB's and the ride of the bike as is.

On May 16, 6:47 pm, Peter Morgano  wrote:
> Sorry, jumbled two brakes.  Moto x not neo motos.
> On May 16, 2012 7:37 PM, "William"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Neo-motos on an RB-T?  No way.
>
> > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:27:23 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> >> Could I go 650b with neo motos?  Just brainstorming
> >> On May 16, 2012 7:17 PM, "Frank Brose"  wrote:
>
> >>> I have Jack Browns (33.333) on mine with fenders. Fit fine. 35's w/o
> >>> fenders would probably go  if they were to measure a true 35.
>
> >>> On May 16, 3:10 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> >>> > So just saw this RBT on the Bay in what would be my size for that
> >>> > frame.  Paint looks really amatuer unfortunately, wondering if that is
> >>> > 32c tires with fenders or without, anyway to squeeze 35s in there with
> >>> > no fenders?
>
> >>> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/**Bridgestone-RB-T-59-cm-Frame-**
> >>> Fork-Refinished-.<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridgestone-RB-T-59-cm-Frame-Fork-Refinished-.>
> >>> ..
>
> >>> > Thanks to anyone who has owned one and can offer words of wisdom
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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

[Frank Brose]

What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have.
Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm
greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned
it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white
grease. Grease is not suppose to be white.

On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works.
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:
> > I use the Phil grease.  I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy
> > fancy expensive grease.  Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry
> > and tacky.
>
> > Ryan
>
> > On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim  wrote:
> > > I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
> > > Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
> > > girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
> > > you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
> > > etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
> > > Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
> > > BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
> > > new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
> > > the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
> > > right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
> > > great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
> > > another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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[RBW] Re: Paul Neo Retro Brakes - and Shimano Levers?

[Frank Brose]

This. Use any lever that you want.

On Jun 1, 2:27 pm, Marc Schwartz  wrote:
> I have not found a lever that will NOT work well with the paul cantis. Unless 
> you're a logo-matcher, purchasing the Paul Canti Levers is not necessary. 
> They are pretty, however.
> 
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] 
> on behalf of Zack [zack...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 1:16 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Paul Neo Retro Brakes - and Shimano Levers?
>
> So I am building up my new Hunq, and one of the neo-retro brakes got damaged 
> in shipping, which has bought me some time to ponder picking up some of the 
> paul canti lever levers.
>
> Just wondering if I *need* the Paul levers to use the shimano levers.  I have 
> the regular silver mountain bikey levers from Riv, was planning on using 
> those w/ the Paul brakes.  Now that I see how powerful the paul brakes are 
> (they are BEEFY) I wonder if the little blurb on the paul site about using 
> the canti levers w/ the neo retros is the move.
>
> So I am really wondering - for those of you with paul neo retros - what do 
> you think?  Need the paul levers?  Okay with shimanos?  What do you guys 
> think?
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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest

[Frank Brose]

Thanks for the pics Ted. One ride I wanted to attend was this but my
work load said no way.  I knew Jim would put together a great ride.
Jim looks like he's going to cross te continental divide. Nice
pictures and now I'll try to slip out of my state of manic depression
for not being able to make it.

On Jun 3, 12:12 pm, Ted Durant  wrote:
> The weather gods smiled upon Jim Thill's excellent organization of the Riv 
> Rally Midwest. Unfortunately, I had to leave at the end of Saturday. I'm sure 
> they're enjoying another epic, scenic tour today.
>
> Some photos from Grant's appearance at Hiawatha, the ride from Minneapolis to 
> Red Wing on Friday, and the ride from Red Wing to Wabasha on Saturday. 
> Outstanding riding and company. Thanks, Jim. That was fantastic!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157630029377718/
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI, USA

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[RBW] Re: Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions?

[Frank Brose]

My thumb. Been working for me since the 70's. Still works just as good
as it did back then.

On Jun 8, 11:17 am, Marty  wrote:
> All this pressure talk reminds me that other than the gauge on my old Silca
> floor pump, I really have no idea how pumped my tires are. What kind of
> gauge is everyone using? How accurate are these things anyway? Seems like
> the next tool I should invest in, but would like opinions before I take the
> plunge. I don't think Riv carries one these days. Thanks!
>
> Marty

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[RBW] Re: Bosco handlebar gets my feet numb

[Frank Brose]

Isn't that dangerous with your shoes untied?

On Jun 11, 3:16 am, Olivier Chetelat  wrote:
> Fantastic for the hands, decent for the feet.
>
> And there's a video to prove 
> it:http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/7360864854/
>
> Good Monday!
>
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[RBW] Re: mini rando bag

[Frank Brose]

No Doubt. I knew the tan handlebar bags went on sale at 9 PST today.
Couldn't get to my computer until 12 PST. Gone. I'm bumbed.

On Jul 10, 12:49 pm, Marc Schwartz  wrote:
> They are a small "cottage" industry.quality and craftmanship are superb. 
> Demand always exceeds supply, so ask to be notified when a new batch will be 
> offered, they are batched by color. You will receive a heads-up email and be 
> prepared to buy quickly... They sell out in hours.
> Marc
> 
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] 
> on behalf of Peter Morgano [uscpeter11...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:39 AM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] mini rando bag
>
> And it is sold outmaybe by xmas I can get one.  Not to be a hater but 
> this site always reminds me of a fancy nightclub by my office, it is closed 
> most of the time but people in the know show up when it is open and it is 
> packed out the door
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean 
> mailto:thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> Completely out of the blue as far as I knew came an e-mail an announcing this 
> new "mini rando" style from Acorn. I ordered one this morning.
>
> I'll post how it works with the Nitto Mini and Mark's Rack sometime in the 
> next couple weeks.
>
> I'm stoked!
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
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[RBW] Re: Best 700c X FAT fenders?

[Frank Brose]

A number of years back I had Berthouds on a 700c Atlantis with Big
Apples for shoes. Can't remember what the width was on the Berthouds
but it was a nice combo.

On Jul 10, 11:07 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> What are the widest 700c fenders available -- the 60 mm Planet Bike
> ones? And of those available, which are the best in terms of value and
> sturdiness? I don't need very long ones since I generally amputate the
> rear to end just aft of the rack and, in front, prefer to use a long
> flap that will not be damaged by hitting obstacles.
>
> -- For the Fargo, now that our "monsoon" is here.
>
> ('Nother question: for your Fargo owners or former owners: what have
> you found to be the best weight distribution, front vs rear, for loads
> of 30 to 50 lb?)
>
> Thanks.
>
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>
> Flannery O'Connor
>
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Re: [RBW] Wool socks

[Frank Brose]

+4 on the Darn Toughs
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:05:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Williams wrote: 
>
>  +3 on the darn toughs,  theyre comfy and sturdy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Lyle Bogart > 
> wrote:
>
>  +1 on the Darn Toughs. Wonderful socks...
>
> On Thursday, 12 December 2013, Nancy Seibel wrote:
>
>> Darn Tough socks, made in Vermont. They are great and come with a 
>> lifetime guarantee.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wool Boreal Shirt (and other Bushcraft-inspired stuff)...

[Frank Brose]

Great. Now I'll spend more money on sheep. I should buy a sheep farm given 
the amount of wool I have in my closet. Seriously. Glad to hear you like 
it. I'm a huge fan of wool and have been for alot of years and will 
probably add one of these to my stash. You'll never see a sheep trying to 
get out of the rain, cold or sun.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:18:58 PM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> My Boreal Shirt arrived today. WOW... What a quality, heavy duty 
> garment... I'm totally blown away. Worth every penny... Walked to the pub; 
> temps in the teens... Wore it under a waxed cotton field jacket...extremely 
> warm and toasty.  Literally a warm blanket, made into an anorak... Love 
> it!!!
>
> This will last a LONG time... Will wholeheartedly recommend this.  BB
>
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:oo
>
>> BobbyB, I went through the exercise last year for a tincloth outer layer 
>> and ended up buying a very nice Italian-made lined field coat from 
>> sierratradingpost.  But as far as a good waxed cotton shell goes, the best 
>> I saw was the Filson all-season rain shell.  
>> http://www.filson.com/products/all-season-raincoat-extra-long.10029.html
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:06:05 PM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick:
>>>
>>> My requirements may not be quite as demanding ... slightly milder 
>>> climate and (admittedly) I'm more foul-weather averse... I'm OK with cold, 
>>> but prefer to not venture too much in rainy and windy conditions... We get 
>>> enough "nice, cold, calm days" in between.  If I had to choose only one 
>>> garment I'd choose a tough wool jacket any day.
>>>  
>>> The wool jackets for $60-$90 from Fred Asbell look nice in the photos, 
>>> but I gotta believe they're not quite built the same as the Boreal Shirt. 
>>>  Three separate testimonies from seasoned field users of the Boreal Shirt 
>>> rave about it as one of the best pieces of equipment they have ever owned, 
>>> and from sleeping in it outside in cold weather to wearing it all season in 
>>> the woods, it's built for warmth and durability. 
>>>
>>> The Duluth Pack jacket looks nice, but add a pocket and the price (at 
>>> $240) is at parity with the Boreal.  The Boreal looks more rugged, and is 
>>> hand-stitched.  But I guess I'll have to wait to see if I made a good 
>>> choice!
>>>
>>> And yes, the Hilltrek jackets ARE really nice... I may have to liquidate 
>>> assets (gee, that's a measure I typically reserve only for when I'm saving 
>>> for a bike)...  
>>>
>>> Peace, BB
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:49:39 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 BobbyB, on the links you shared, I 'm seeing the wool jackets for 
 $60-$90, so I'm wondering what you're getting for $250. There's this too: 
 http://duluthpack.com/home-cabin/clothing-accessories/mens/mens-jackets/wool-blanket-shirt.html(they
  also have canvas anaroks, mitts, etc).

 I'm all for hearty wool and layering, that's what I do. It's the time 
 of year when I'm always wearing my long john wool shirt and wool sweater. 
 It's easy to go outside and be moving around in the sun, then come in (we 
 keep our house cooler, upper 50's-low 60's) without putting anything else 
 on, though I'll toss on my Filson's mackinaw if breezy or colder than 35 
 out or I won't be moving much.

 Ventile is well worth saving up for. Delighted with my Hilltrek (Cotton 
 Analogy), and some of their jackets come in very reasonably and have that 
 anarok design. 
 http://www.hilltrek.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Foinaven_Cotton_Analogy__Smock.html(I
  got the Liathach Extreme and love the better hood, waist cinch and other 
 upgrades).

 Personally, rather than spending more on a heavies wool option, I'd 
 suggest layering with more wool and getting the cotton analogy sooner 
 rather than later. The outer garnet is perfect year round for all kinds of 
 conditions, and then you layer as needed underneath, making those layers 
 less critical (unless you're going lightweight down) to spend more coin on.

 I look forward to hearing what you find and decide and how it works for 
 you.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:39:40 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB 
 wrote:
>
> With Winter fast approaching, I've been looking to invest in some 
> long-term durable apparel (made from natural materials like wool or 
> cotton) 
> to make my outdoor experiences in the cold more enjoyable.  I have been 
> formulating a layering strategy that will hopefully carry me from late 
> Fall 
> through early Spring.  One interesting piece of apparel I recently 

[RBW] Re: Bleriot First Ride

[Frank Brose]

I agree with fullylugged. Throw some Grand Bois on it and give it a run. I 
also think (with me at least) it's splitting hairs but the Grand Bois tires 
just seem to ride nicer and hence probably feel faster. A Bleriot is the 
bike that converted me. Enjoy it! 

On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 1:39:43 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Here are a few quick shots of my new-to-me Bleriot:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639017448075/
>
> This comes to me from Chris in North Dakota. I added a Brooks saddle and 
> fenders, changed the bar tape from green to leathery brown, swapped the 
> Nifty Swifty tires for a set of Col de la Vies, and put on an alloy 
> crankset that Santa brought me. The Carradice seat bag was sitting in the 
> closet, waiting for a bike to go on.
>
> So far, so good. The ride is definitely plush, although I'm not convinced 
> that it isn't a tad slower than a similarly equipped 700C bicycle.
>
> Merry Christmas, and congrats to everyone who is trying out new bike stuff 
> today!
>
> --Eric
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> www.wheelsnorth.org
> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
>  
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hilborne and Brooks B17

[Frank Brose]

I was never a fan of proofhide. I've always used Obbenaufs ( since I found 
out about it) at least once a year sometimes twice and have never used a 
saddle cover. You might try going to the Obbenaufs website and see what 
they offer for leather treatment .My son who works outdoors in any and all 
weather conditions uses it on his boots and swears there is not a better 
leather care product available. It's worked well for me on the saddles I 
have and prior to that I used neatsfoot oil (like I said I was never a fan 
of proofhide). There are thousands of opinions on this and I might be all 
wrong but if something works for me I stick with it.  

On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:09:40 PM UTC-6, MikeC wrote:
>
> Attached are photos of my 60 cm Sam Hilborne with a Brooks B17 with about 
> 12,000 mi, 10,000 of which were acquired while on the Hilborne. The leather 
> has taken a real beating. Since the saddle has only gotten wet from rain a 
> few times, I attribute it to sweat. I have used Proofhide sparingly (twice 
> a year). Since this is my oldest Brooks and the first that is showing this 
> type of deterioration, I'm not sure if this is normal with this kind of 
> mileage.
>
> I'm looking for advice on how to treat it from here on out. Should I have 
> applied Proofhide more frequently, less often, do I just ride on, or will 
> it soon reach the end of it's life. At this point I'm more concerned with 
> properly treating my other saddles that are still looking good.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mike
>

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[RBW] Re: Tire Casing Quiz

[Frank Brose]

And well worth it. 

On Monday, January 13, 2014 5:26:21 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>
>
> The only diff I can tell  is less rubber, as you can see the threads are 
>> practically emerging from the rubber on the Hetre. But there must be 
>> something else because the Hetres cost so much.
>>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Bianchi

[Frank Brose]

I'd restore it. Maybe not full on back to looking like new but repack the 
bearings,elbow grease to clean and polish,new cables,bar tape,a few parts 
and pieces,lube it and make it a rider. My guess is it has the potential to 
be a nice one.Hard to tell without more detailed pics but seeing what I see 
I'd say go for it.

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:31:23 PM UTC-6, David Hays wrote:
>
>
> Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's 
> Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick 
> up some more things from their townhouse.
> They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home 
> with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and 
> sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
> I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my 
> siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th 
> birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see 
> them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
> Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is 
> a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
> I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is 
> made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks.
> David Hays
> Kenmore, New York
>
> 
>
>
>   
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?

[Frank Brose]

I have noodles on my Atlantis and one other bike, m bars on one and albas 
on one.  At first I was not a huge fan of the albas but over a short period 
of time I became rather fond of them. Fond enough I bought another set and 
a set of boscos to try on a new build. That being said 35 miles is about 
the longest ride I've ever done on the albas but I wouldn't hesitate to go 
further.  

On Friday, February 7, 2014 9:37:45 AM UTC-6, Tonester wrote:
>
> I've got noodles on my Atlantis and like them fine, but curiosity..
>

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[RBW] Re: How would your choice of Rivish Bike carry forward to your choice of automobile?

[Frank Brose]

On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:47:34 PM UTC-5, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> If you are going to say "I ride a Rivendell bicycle, I don't need an 
> automobile", God bless you.  Seriously.
>
> But, assuming that your obsessive, compulsive personality (I have one of 
> those) compels you to carry the threads of your pursuits to their extreme, 
> logical conclusions, I believe that there are some choices out there.  As 
> with our bicycles, they would not be obtained through "standard outlets".
>
> Just my opinion, but I think that as an Atlantis, A. Homer Hilsen, or Sam 
> Hillborne owner, you might gravitate to this.
>
>
> 
>
> Note that the owner has a beard (working on that for myself).  I heard 
> that the owner managed to convert the Seagrave fire truck engine to 
> propane, so perhaps that helps with fuel costs.
>
> There is really only one choice for the owner of a Hunqapillar.  The 
> Hummer would be much too yesterday's trendy.  To hades with the cost of 
> fuel or effort.  It must be a Dodge Power Wagon.
>
> 
>
> This bad boy will go anywhere you want, albeit with an unsynchonized 
> manual transmission.  Well, heck, we don't need no stinking SIS, do we?
>
> Betty Foy and Cheviot are more subtle.  They demonstrate a certain amount 
> of class and an attitude of nonchalance about girl's bike/boy's bike.  They 
> are nevertheless robust vehicles.  Not having one, my suggestion would be 
> the following.
>
>
> 
>
>
> I can only imagine Vancouver librarians rolling up to the book 
> repositories (or straight through them, if desired) in Canadian state 
> issued editions of these contrivances.
>
> ~Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?

[Frank Brose]

What size does said surgeon ride? I'm considering parting ways with my 
Atlantis. As much as I enjoy it, time for riding is limited, I have no 
plans for another tour and I have others to ride that get my ya-ya's out.

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway) 
> and I know many listmembers use them for touring. I asked this question on 
> the iBoblist and got many responses, but perhaps asking it here in a more 
> focused fashion will raise more guiding advice about the choice as loaded 
> touring bike of the Atlantis in particular.
>
> I have a client who is a surgeon (ie, he can afford what he wants) who 
> wants to do some loaded touring. We got to talking and I quickly 
> recommended the Atlantis, and he was very interested.
>
> I got an email from him yesterday; apparently he had called Rivendell to 
> ask for their catalogue and discovered that there is a 5 month waiting list 
> for the Atlantis.
>
> My question to yawl is: considering other possibilities from the LHT to a 
> custom Bruce Gordon, is the Atlantis, *as touring bike*, special enough to 
> warrant a wait? Or would you advise other choices?
>
> He presently has a Trek 1420 that is about 15 years old; don't know 
> anything about that model.
>
> What about a Hunquapillar? -- too beefy/off road built? Sam Hillborne?
>
> Me, having owned a Sam Hill and now owning a Ram with clearance for 35 mm 
> Kojaks and fenders, I'd probably opt for the Ram for touring, flex be 
> damned.
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
> -- 
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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

[Frank Brose]

My experience is 7 and 8 are mindless, 9 is mindless 99% of the time (the 
1% being owner error).  But that's coming from someone who prefers friction 
over index.  

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:53:22 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> I have 9, want to go to 8. But am thinking for better friction shifting go 
> whole hog and get a 7 speed cassette and chain.
>
> Can I do that on a Sam with XT front derailer and Deore rear?
>
> Does chainline factor in, or is a shimano 7 speed cassette the same width 
> as an 8 speed? Will the 7 speed chain fit the derailer cages?
>

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[RBW] Re: OT and FS: 1985 Trek 720

[Frank Brose]

It does. Makes for a lot less guessing and speculation.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 6:53:01 PM UTC-5, Bob wrote:
>
> This should answer all questions. It's live:  
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191196884125
>

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[RBW] Re: Indexing Schmindexing!

[Frank Brose]

I prefer friction. Maybe because it's what I cut my teeth on but to me it's 
simple, feels good and the end results are the same. Joes spot on on this, 
the Riv shifters are smoth. Ratchet or not, I'll take friction. But 
that's just me. 

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:58:51 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> I've been fighting with the shifting on my Hilsen for months now. I have a 
> 3x9 Ultegra drive train with Dura Ace bar end shifters. I'm admittedly not 
> the best mechanic in the world but I built up my girlfriend's Sam and it 
> shifted just fine, even after switching out Mustache bars w/bar ends to 
> Albatross w/thumbies. I built my Hunqapillar up with less than stellar 
> shifting. So last spring I put on a new chain, cassette, chain rings, and 
> cables. It's never really been great since. It slipped and skipped, 
> especially in the lower gears (which, of course, made it really 
> inconvenient when climbing steep stuff.) I changed cables again recently 
> with the same middling results. It wasn't unrideable but it was pretty 
> annoying. I have my first 400k coming up next Saturday, so last night I 
> started from scratch. I loosened the rear derailer cable (the front has 
> always been fine) and used Sheldon Brown's method of setting up on the 
> third smallest cog and getting the cable snug, with both barrel adjusters 
> one full turn back from all the way tightened. I went on a 75 mile, hilly 
> route today with similar results. It was a wee bit better but it still 
> jumped around, mostly in the lowest gears on both the middle and small 
> chainrings. I tried going both ways with the barrel adjusters to no avail. 
> I would shift a notch but still have to try and trim a half notch or so to 
> get it right. So finally I stopped and took the shifter out of index mode 
> and into friction mode. Viola! It shifted like butter! What a wonderful 
> relief. I had tried index mode once before but only briefly. This time it 
> is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on the shifter or 
> what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic ability, but the 
> great thing is, it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I 
> may never go back. This is one more thing that Grant is right about. I 
> wonder, could a set of Silver bar ends be in my future? 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Curt Goodrich built 58.5cm Rivendell Custom

[Frank Brose]

Yeah. Crazy good deal and I'd do it in a skinny minute but this last 
weekend in front of my son,wife and nephew I said I'm done buying and 
putting together bikes. I did get a few "yeah right" comments but I'm 
stickin' to it this time. At least I think I am.

On Friday, July 25, 2014 10:50:20 AM UTC-5, Ryan wrote:
>
> That's a crazy good deal. Somone should jump on this
> On Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:38:45 PM UTC-5, stoker wrote:
>>
>> Hello! Dropping the price to $1675 shipped to lower 48. 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:18:31 PM UTC-5, stoker wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all –
>>>
>>> I listed this bike a short while ago - I had a buyer and he had a change 
>>> of heart, so I am listing again.
>>>
>>> It is a 58.5 cm (measured center to top) Curt Goodrich built Rivendell 
>>> Custom frameset/fork. It includes the ‘fancy’ paint details on the fork 
>>> tips, seat and chainstay bridges, ‘keyhole’ on the seat lug, etc. It is in 
>>> excellent condition – no chips, scrapes, dents, dings, blemishes. It is in 
>>> fantastic condition – it appears new. Includes the Cane Creek Classic 
>>> Headset. I will also include the Shimano LX FD and the Shimano BB. Images 
>>> show fully built bike – frame/fork/headset will be carefully packed for 
>>> shipping. It is priced at half of what a current custom would cost plus it 
>>> comes with a very nice headset.
>>>
>>> *Pertinent info:*
>>>
>>> 58.5cm frame.  
>>>
>>> Tube specs - DT .8-.5-.8 / ST .9-.6 / TT .7-.4-.7 
>>>
>>> 72.5 HT/72 ST. 
>>>
>>> 58cm TT (horizontal equiv). 
>>>
>>> BB drop 80mm. 
>>>
>>> Fork rake 47.5mm. 
>>>
>>> CS length 44.5cm
>>>
>>> TT slope 1.5 degree
>>>
>>> The bike was designed as a 'semi-relaxed road bike'. It has clearance 
>>> for up to a 'true' 700x35. The tires in the images are 700x30 (actual)
>>> *$1750.00 *shipped to the lower 48. (I am in the Minneapolis/St. Paul 
>>> area, so if you are local we could work something out) 
>>> PayPal is best. Contact me off-line - Thanks much! 
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/107142884@N05/sets/72157637139677264/
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[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

[Frank Brose]

Peter White uses a 120mm Phil on an Atlantis with TA Zephyr triple
cranks.
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.asp
I think 107 or 110 would be to short given the curvature of the
chainstays to fit larger tires on an Atlantis.

On Dec 12, 12:07 pm, Thomas K Sanderson 
wrote:
> I have a Sugino Alpina (34-48t ) crank and am having a hard time finding out
> what size of Phil Wood bottom bracket to order and install on an Atlantis 
> bike.
>  Many, many thanks if someone can help.

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[RBW] Re: Who's that on the cover of Bicycle Times?

[Frank Brose]

Yup. That's him.

On Jan 26, 6:05 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> For my money I say it's none other than Steve Palincsar...
>
> You be the judge:
>
> Steve the live action figure:http://tinyurl.com/72durs9
> Steve the animated action figure?:http://tinyurl.com/6qsr6ym
>
> (Sorry Steve, I couldn't resist).
>
> Peace,
> Bobby

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[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...

[Frank Brose]

Between Will and Ryan It's pretty well spelled out. I'd take their
advice. Not to mention the fact Will lives in MadTown.

On Feb 7, 2:22 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> I like buying new bikes as much as the next guy but I'd just build up
> the Trek without all the mods.  Use it for your sprightlier adventures
> and keep the LHT (nice setup there by the way) for other times.  The
> Soma looks like it'd ride quite nicely but my guess is that it splits
> the difference between the Trek and the LHT in some ways.
>
> I had a heavily-modded (by others) 650b'ified Trek 520 frame, which
> was fine but I don't know that all the work that went into it
> necessarily made it a better ride (but it was a cool project).
>
> The Treks that took 27" wheels can fit 700c x 32s and fenders.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Feb 7, 6:05 am, trek610  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I am at a cross roads and need some help deciding on how best to spend my
> > money...
>
> > I am looking to get a nice all around bike for commuting, perhaps a century
> > or two, 2 day bike overnight credit card, and light trail (crushed
> > limestone/dirt) type riding. In the summer I wind up with 50 - 150 miles
> > per week.   I am currently using a Surly LHT for this type of riding, and
> > really like it, but am longing for something a bit more .sprightly.
> >  Here is a picture of my current LHT to give you an idea of how I would
> > like to setup this new ride.
>
> > 
>
> > I am not the tallest guy and ride a 50 - 53cm frame depending on the setup.
> >  I would outfit his new bike in a similar fashion with fenders, racks,
> > rando bag etc...
>
> > Here is my problem.  I found a 531cs Trek 610 from 1984 that has (IMHO)
> > nice geometry for my needs.  Some specs - 430mm chain-stay, 52mm rake, 72mm
> > bottom bracket drop, and i think 72 for so seat and head tube angles.  Trek
> > does not publish the geometry for anything but 22.5" frames that year...
>
> > Trek Upgrade Path
>
> >    1. 700C or 650B wheel conversion - bigger tire, better ride, more fender
> >    clearance (I already have a nice set of velocity 700c wheels for this
> >    project)
> >    2. complete powder coat
> >    3. Canti brake studs added
> >    4. brazeons for various items
> >    5. cold set the rear end
> >    6. etc...
>
> > I guess in the end this will require many new parts, some of which I have,
> > but will be a considerable investment nonetheless.
>
> > Now here comes the San Marcos  It seems to be a nice solution as well
> > and may very well similar in price to the trek by the time I am done with
> > the frame parts.  The San Marcos may be a bit more, but may be a better
> > choice in the long run.  The San Marcos seems to have perfect geometry for
> > my kind of riding...
>
> > What would you do if you were me?  What bike will better serve me in the
> > long run.  I have to admit, since I live in Madison WI the Trek has some
> > sentimental value to me.  The San Marcos lugs look really nice however!  I
> > am torn with which direction to go, and since this is a big outlay of cash
> > for me I am looking for some advice before going one way or the other...
>
> > Thanks in a advance to any/all help.
>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam

[Frank Brose]

First thing I do when a bike feels like a pig is start with the tires.

On Feb 10, 1:48 pm, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> I've really been loving the single speeding simplicity of my new-to-me QB,
> but it's not feeling particularly quick.
> I was expecting a slick, efficient, butter-smooth feel to the bike, but it
> seems a bit more like I'm riding through peanut butter. I'm finding I need
> to pedal on slight downhills that my Sam and LHT will accelerate while
> coasting down. Sluggish is about the only way to describe it.
>
> There are a couple of things I'm thinking, and would appreciate any advice:
>
> 1) This is my first experience with an Albatross bar and the upright
> posture may be increasing my (already considerable) wind resistance more
> than I'm used to.
>
> 2) I added a Dos Eno freewheel and it's got a pretty hefty amount of drag.
> When I have the bike in the stand, and spin the rear wheel in the forward,
> freewheeling, direction the cranks spin right along too. This doesn't
> happen with my cassette-equipped bikes. The wheel also doesn't coast (in
> the stand) nearly as long as my shimano cassette equipped bikes. Maybe this
> gets better over time? It's a brand new freewheel. I had a Shimano
> freewheel on it for a while, and the bike felt better, but could the Dos
> Eno really be that slow?
>
> 3) The Jack Brown Blue/Open Sport wheels on the QB are close enough in
> weight to the Kojak/Dyads on my Sam that I don't think I'm noticing a
> radical difference in inertia. Tire pressures are checked and fine.
>
> 4) This is my first ever single speed (if you don't count the Schwinn BMX
> bike I had when I was 12) - is there any trick to setting them up that I
> may not be aware of?  I read all of Sheldon's advice on the topic... my
> chainline seems fine (wouldn't matter coasting anyway) and the tension
> seems OK. The wheel is straight
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Pete in CT
> SingleSixtySidepullSam... and Quick-ish-beam

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[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch

[Frank Brose]

On Feb 13, 4:24 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

>
> Frankly, I don't see the point of this exercise. Using older-series parts
> is ok if that's what you already have, but to spend perfectly good money to
> retrofit your bike with less widely available parts (and dwindling
> selections of cassettes/derailleurs/shifters) doesn't make sense to me. I
> understand Steve's 'less is more' argument, but it's not THAT much more,
> and in some ways it is, in fact, less. If you don't like the 12t cog, maybe
> go to a 44t big ring.

I'd have to agree with Jim on this one. I have 7,8,9 speeds that I
shift with friction (I happen to like it that way) and I wouldn't
change my 9 speed setup for a 7 or 8, nor would I upgrade the other
two for a nine just for the sake of change.I'm more of the type ..when
something works fine I leave it alone because I'm also the type that
can over think it and screw it up.

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[RBW] Re: How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold?

[Frank Brose]

Now this is worthwhile cycling related information!

On Feb 20, 12:17 pm, Ryan Ray  wrote:
> Two!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/6897492167/in/photostream
>
> Handling wasn't exactly crisp but I got to the work meeting from Fremont
> Brewing with two full growlers in my Acorn boxy radio bag mounted on an
> M-12.

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[RBW] Re: Bike lust.

[Frank Brose]

If it ever comes down to me owning only one bicycle (which I hope it
never does) it would be my Atlantis.

On Mar 12, 2:48 pm, jinxed  wrote:
> Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil
> in a good way?
>
> One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the
> world...for the rest of your life.
>
> I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge
> of being sold off for an Atlantis.
>
> Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best
> Rivendells I've laid eyes on.
>
> Rivendell 
> Atlantis

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[RBW] Re: AHH 56, 57 compare & contrast?

[Frank Brose]

Given my choice between 650b or 700c I'd always go with the 650b and I
don't think 1 cm either way frame size means squat. I just like 650b.
Can't speak about the AHH but I've had more than one bike with each
wheel size and 650b wins hands down everytime for me. Just as fast IMO
and are smooth as butta.  I've yet to find a 700c tire that trips my
trigger like 650b tires do, but that's just me.

On Mar 23, 7:00 pm, ted  wrote:
> The A. Homer Hilsen is available in 56 and 58 for 650b wheels, and in
> 57 and 59 for 700c wheels.
> So some sizes of folks would fit both 650b and 700c AHHs.
> I would like to know AHHs with the different wheel sizes in this
> overlap region compare.
> Can some of you all please help me out with that?
> Anybody make that decision? If yes, picked which and why? How's it
> playing out? etc.
>
> thnks

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[RBW] Re: pedal across wisconsin?

[Frank Brose]

I've never had any experience with them but have done this:
http://www.bikewisconsin.com/Grabaawr/index.html
Wisconsin has a wide variety of terrain. If your in decent shape 50 to
60 miles a day is doable without feeling trashed at the end of the
day. Hell I ride that in the summer and I'm getting older,fatter and
slower every year. Most of these organized rides take place on
secondary roads which for the most part are excellent with a low
traffic count. The secondary road system is quite extensive and well
maintained. As it should be given the amount of taxes we pay. Sorry
had to rant a little. The small amount of time you'd spend on main
highways should be of no concern. The sholders on most are wide and
for the most part drivers tend to give cyclists a fairly wide berth.
People are friendly, beer is cold and the food is good.

On Mar 10, 5:02 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> Hi,
>  Does anyone on the list have any experience with:
>
> http://pedalacrosswisconsin.com/
>
> I'm a little curious about them - though I must admit - doing 50-60
> miles/day for 6 days feels like it could leave me a bit tired - I'm curious
> just how flat this really is and other experiences.
>
> Thanks,
> -sv

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[RBW] WTT Nitto Moustache bars for Albatross Bars

[Frank Brose]

Title pretty much says it all. I'd prefer the aluminum Albas. But I'm all 
ears I'd consider other bars with a similar shape.

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[RBW] Re: WTT Nitto Moustache bars for Albatross Bars

[Frank Brose]

I would have to agree with both you and Mike but this bike will probably 
see hard pack dirt and pavement. Not to mention I have more than one set of 
M bars. In fact that's what was on this particular bike. Just time for a 
new hairdo so to speak.

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:04:40 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> I too am always tempted into riding albas. But when I get on some dirt 
> moustache is barn-on the best bar I have ridden on dirt. Just food for 
> thought

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[RBW] Re: Shimano bar-end shifters & Albatross bars for commuting

[Frank Brose]

I've used Shimano Bar ends alot and generally speaking I almost always flip 
them to friction mode. I cut my teeth on Suntour barcons and have just 
always prefered friction to index shiffting no matter how many cogs I have 
on the rear. If you're O.K. with friction only the Riv silver shifters are 
great and if you can find some Suntours they work great as well and are 
pretty beefy and will take alot of abuse.
Frank
 
On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:41:46 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

> Background (may be skipped as it may not be fully relevant to answering 
> the question and is quite wordy): 
> I purchased albatross bars for a bike my son and I are repainting and 
> building up for him.  While waiting for him to select a frame color, I 
> mounted the albatross bars on my daily commuter (a Surly LHT with riv 
> purchased racks and Rivendell sackville bags).  I was running trekking bars 
> with grip shifters, which I liked well-enough for my 16 mile round trip 
> commute, but I found them less comfortable on longer rides.  I really like 
> the albatross bars and am considering making them permanent.  (I will have 
> to purchase a 2nd pair from Rivendell for my son's bike!)  However, my most 
> aggressive riding occurs while I am commuting; it is an urban commute on 
> roads with buses, aggressive commuters and clueless pedestrians.  I shift 
> gears excessively on the 7 speed cassette using the gripshifters.  I often 
> am quickly index shifting through 6-7 gears as I rapidly approach a 
> stoplight. (I stop at all red lights.)  I like to start up from the easiest 
> gear and up/down shift through the gears as needed.  Often, I am quickly 
> shifting to keep pace with the traffic.  Given the heavy vehicle traffic, I 
> like to maintain as consistent/predictable a presence as possible, which 
> usually requires both hands on the handlebars.  I am considering replacing 
> the gripshifts on the albatross bars with Shimano bar-end shifters sold by 
> Rivendell.  The grip shifters feel and look a bit strange on the Albatross 
> bars--though they work fine.  However, I have never used bar-end shifters, 
> only thumb (index), grip (index) and downtube (friction).   If you are 
> patiently still reading, here is my question. 
>
> Question:  For those who use or have used  the Shimano bar-end shifters, 
> especially on Albatross bars, how easy is it to index shift rapidly across 
> several gears on the rear cassette?  Is it as easy as moving the lever up 
> or down the needed number of clicks? (On my gripshift, index shifting, one 
> click equals one sprocket change on the cassette.)  Are the Shimano bar-end 
> shifters durable enough to take somewhat rough handling every day?  (I 
> think I have read about a washer cracking easily.)  As I mentioned, I ride 
> hard on my commute.  I do not mean to insinuate that the shifters are not 
> of good quality, it is just that I am quite hard on my gear when commuting. 
>  Hence, the Surly LHT with 26 x 2.35 tires.  Specifically I would be using 
> the shifter set compatible with a 6-7-8 speed cassette.  
>
> As always I appreciate and always benefit from the individual and 
> collective wisdom of this group.  I apologize for the wordiness of this 
> post. 
> Many thanks, 
> Erl 
>

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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

[Frank Brose]

 If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes 
I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders 
(that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to 
mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. 
Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my 
RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as 
well.
Cheers,
Frank
 
On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:

> Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something 
> slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple 
> of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just 
> isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, 
> Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for 
> sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By 
> the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I 
> don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be 
> greatly appreciated as always. 

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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

[Frank Brose]

What Jim says is well worth considering. I don't know how much I have in 
mine but I know it would be way north of $800 if I would have bought 
everything new (might be anyhow).  I had it repainted and had used parts I 
on hand that I used and it still cost me a fair amount of money . The used 
parts cost me something at some point in time and new cables,chain, 
tire,tubes,ect. all add up. I also have enough parts that I knew if I 
didn't like the setup I could always change it's hairdo That being said 
it's still one of my favorite bikes but then again it fits me and I like 
the ride. If I were fiscally responsible when it comes to bicycles. I 
probably would have never pursued it. But I'm not.
 
On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:01:07 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

> No comment particular to the RB-T, but of old, used bikes in general. IME, 
> you can spend a load of $$$ on a used bike chasing an unattainable dream. 
> At a minimum: unless the bike is a garage-queen formerly owned by an OCD 
> type, or you happen to be a decent wrench yourself and have a garage full 
> of good parts, you're probably going to have to spend a small fortune at 
> the LBS replacing things that are worn out. Chain, cassette, 
> crank/chainring(s), brake pads, bar-tape, cables, tires, and who knows what 
> else, along with a tune-up/overhaul...could easily run to $300 or even $500 
> (even with mediocre replacement parts) at a LBS. As a "best-case" scenario, 
> I'm not including stuff like cracked/bent rims or screwed up hubs or a 
> stuck seatpost or a handlebar/stem that Nitto says you should replace every 
> 5 years (or when your GF needs a different bar/stem for comfort)...things 
> that can run into big money. So, let's say that, with this basic 
> maintenance, the bike actually costs you $800 total. Even for that $800, 
> most of the "good" parts that were not replaced (including the frame) are 
> still 20 years old, and have an unknown history. And besides that, unless 
> your GF really has her heart set on a RB-T, you've just spent $800 on a 
> bike that you settled for because it was one of very few suitable options 
> available on the local used market. If she doesn't like it after going 
> through all that trouble, you'll be lucky to recoup even a fraction of the 
> extra $$$ you put into fixing it up. 
>
> For that $800 or a bit more, you could buy a NEW bike with all new parts 
> and a warranty and a LBS that wants you and your GF to be happy customers. 
> Most importantly, the new bike world allows a person to shop around a bit 
> to find a bike he/she really likes, rather than settling for whatever 
> happens to make it to Craigslist. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Am I nuts?

[Frank Brose]

You're frickin' crazy because you have a Saluki without wheels that needs 
to be sold to finance this fantastic idea you have to make the Simple One 
the ultimate bicycle to fit your needs. We'll be waiting for the FS add. 
But on the other side of the coin do you want to live your life wondering 
how it could have been?  I'd say do it. The Great Bicycling Spirit hates a 
coward but loves those with the spirit of adventure.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Sanity check-
> SimpleOne, after nearly leaving the stable, has taken over as my main ride 
> since I took the Saluki's wheel set to do a conversion on the lady's bike. 
> I currently have the Resist 700x45s on there and love it. However there's 
> also some trails out in the Wissahickon I'd like to ride on this bad boy. 
>
> I was thinking about setting up a cockpit to be quick switched (not a 
> problem) with the following gearing:
> 42 / 34 front
> 17 rear on one side
> 22 on the other. I see no problem and think I could even go smaller up 
> front if I switched to a triple instead of a double (bash guarded, etc). 
>
>
> Is this nuts? Should I just get a mountain bike?
>
> -J, PHl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone riding upright with Brooks Flyer saddle?

[Frank Brose]

I prefer the Flyer to the B67 for said application. But that's my butt. If 
you have one try it. What's the worst case scenario? It doesn't feel good? 
 I have a B67  I'll part with if you want wider.  

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> They say you should go to a wider saddle for upright riding than a B17, 
> but I have a sprung Brooks Flyer I'd like to keep using.
>  
> Anyone doing it? How does the saddle work for upright riding? Wide enough 
> for you?
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

[Frank Brose]

Is she looking for a B68 or B67? The B68 is unsprung. The B67 is like the 
Flyer only wider.

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:02:38 AM UTC-5, Chris wrote:

> I am helping a friend with a build and she is looking to purchase either 
> of both of these items. I thought i would give the forum a shot! Thanks
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: Century ride training for the un-racer?

[Frank Brose]

Years ago, in the 70's to be exact, I started riding and wanted to do a 
century. I read everything I could get my hands on involving training for 
cycling and running to build endurance. I came across this book called LSD 
Running (hey it was the 70's) or something to that effect. The Author was 
an advocate of going long slow distances with increasing mileage gradually. 
I thought "why not try this with cycling". It worked. I rode daily and on 
weekends increased my mileage at a long slow pace. I still use this method 
when planing on some long miles. Not rocket science but I'm not a rocket 
scientist and it still works. Take your time and enjoy the ride. 

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:39:15 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Was wondering what you all recommend for training for a century since I am 
> not racing, just wanna finish the century. Its flat. No hills, but 
> headwinds to battle towards the last half. I will probably ride the 
> Bleriot/Hetres if my new set up works out on it.
>  
> Do you get by on centuries with little to no training - just your commutes 
> and such?
>  
> I am under the impression that those training cards you get at the LBS are 
> overkill and geared mostly to people racing or looking to do their personal 
> best.
>  
> Or am I sorely mistaken?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

[Frank Brose]

5.10 Dirtbags. I bought a pair a month ago and have been pleasantly 
suprised at how good they are. I too ride MKS touring pedals with clips and 
straps and these are the best shoes I've tried to date.
 

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:12:10 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

> Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
> I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
> Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
> My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
> on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
> in the front of the shoe.
>  
> I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
> nerves on longer rides.
>  
> Any tips are welcome.
>

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[RBW] Re: Sudden Onset Bike Purchase

[Frank Brose]

I might be wrong but that sure looks like Jim Thill's from Hiawatha Cyclery 
in Minneapolis that he decided to part ways with some time back. Nice 
Score! Like Christopher said "You can do anything on an Atlantis" Enjoy!

On Monday, July 29, 2013 10:03:13 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote:
>
> Hello! I'm writing to introduce myself as a new (used) Rivendell Atlantis 
> owner. It wasn't a planned event and certainly wasn't budgeted, but this is 
> the kind of trouble you get yourself into when you hang with Liesl. 
>
>
> Long story short: 
>
> I bought Steve's bike off the RBW Owners Bunch group. Black Atlantis with 
> S&S couplers and generally really nice parts. I'm super psyched.
>
>
> Short story long:
>
> Following a round-town and backyard S240 we got to chatting about my dream 
> bike, a Rivendell Atlantis. We talked about some details and bar-type (I 
> wanted to switch up to Albas from the Noodles I had on my current bike). 
> Extra fantasy-part bonus would be S&S couplers. It was an innocent enough 
> conversation, in which I clearly stated that I didn't have the funds set 
> aside and that it was a long-term dream--5 to 10 year goal. Well, a few 
> hours after we parted ways I looked to my phone and saw: missed call, voice 
> mail, 2 x texts. All from Liesl. I cringed because I knew it could only 
> mean one thing. Sure enough, she just spotted the "deal of the century" on 
> the group. It was even set up with Albas and had S&S couplers. Next thing I 
> know, I'm looking it up. Next next thing I know I'm writing an email. Then 
> I'm on the phone with Steve. Then I've purchased and am eagerly 
> anticipating it's arrival.
>
>
> It arrived while I was away on vacation (shipped to a friend's house) so I 
> was torn between enjoying mountain biking and seeing family in the Bay Area 
> and wanting to get the heck back to Minneapolis to see this new beauty. 
> Common sense ruled the day and I didn't get an early return ticket. While 
> in the Bay Area, I decided to make a pilgrimage to Riv to pick up some 
> pedals (sneaker) and some decals. The bike is smartly without any Riv 
> decals--very incognito and just a little less thief-magnetic for it. 
> However, since this is my first Riv and I'm just short enough on 
> self-security I really want to bask in the reflected glow of this pedigreed 
> chariot. Anyway, had a really nice chat with Keven and he sent me off with 
> the goods plus a few Readers and a coin purse to boot. Super cool.
>
>
> I arrived home late Friday and put it together Saturday morning. It rides 
> like a dream. So, all this to say, I am really jazzed about my new bike and 
> have enjoyed lurking on the site. There's a lot of positivity and good 
> information here and I'm glad to be officially joining the group. Cheers, 
> and thanks Liesl! Hope to see some of you fellow Minneapolitans around town.
>
>
> Sergio
>

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[RBW] Longshot WTB IRC stem shifter mount

[Frank Brose]

Title says it all. Only shifter system I haven't tried (since the 70's). 
 I'm working on a winter project and it's time for a new twist. Please 
reply offlist.
Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] Re: (OT) What Kind of Snowshoes Should I Get?

[Frank Brose]

I prefer these: http://www.northernlites.com/  

On Friday, December 19, 2014 9:30:43 PM UTC-6, Amit Singh wrote:
>
> A few folks are talking about a snow-camping adventure. They say snowshoes 
> are required, and that fat bikes won't float enough on the powder. So ... 
> what kind of snowshoe should I get? Is there a riv-ish snowshoe? MUSA? I 
> imagine weight and height is a consideration - I'm 6'6", 230lbs and wear 
> size 13 shoes.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Amit
>

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[RBW] Re: The joy of a bicycle.

[Frank Brose]

Always has made sense to me. I've had a love for bicycles since I first 
learned how to ride one. I've lost my front teeth, broken my collarbone, 
nose, and elbow while enjoying the freedom. Small prices to pay given the 
countless hours of peace and solitude. 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 9:59:58 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Read about it here .
>
> Cheers,
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

[Frank Brose]

I think it's a helluva deal and a fantastic looking bike as well. You
not only have a bike you built yourself but a weeks worth of time with
a master of the trade. Hang a value on that.

On Oct 16, 2:55 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
 wrote:
> It was $3,000 for the week, which considering how late Mike worked every 
> night is a pretty darn good deal. Plus delicious lunches, and of course your 
> own custom A.N.T. Frame/fork!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:25 PM, "James Chang" 
> mailto:lohech...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Damn, Thomas, that's really nice.  it even cooler the fact that you actually 
> built it.  You are now officially a frame builder.  How much does a class 
> like this run?  Interested!!!
>
> James Chang
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
> mailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com>> wrote:
> OK, I know this is stretching it, but I’m usually pretty scrupulous about 
> staying on topic – and I’m so excited about finishing this bike that I have 
> to share with the group.  I signed up for a weeklong one-on-one frame 
> building course (“bike camp”, to my wife, who gave it to me as a Christmas 
> present) with Mike Flanagan at A.N.T., and made this frame (with considerable 
> help from Mike).  I finished the final build this weekend.  Here it 
> is:http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8087111571/in/photostream
>
> My first fixed gear, very fun but very strange feeling at first.   Riv 
> content (there really IS some):  alloy Bosco bars, and Nigel Smythe Keven’s 
> bag.
>
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[RBW] Re: How many Rivendell bicycles have you owned?

[Frank Brose]

I'll play.
56 Atlantis- 3  Still own one
58 Atlantis- Gone to big
58 rambo- Gone to buy a Bleriot
56 Canti Rom- gone wish i would have kept it
54 Saluki-parted out (to small) gone
59 Bleriot- gone but still second guess it's sale
60 Quickbeam- gone, wish I would have kept it but a 56-58 would have
been a better fit
56 Legolas- never built but wish I would have

On Oct 30, 2:55 pm, Michael  wrote:
> I'll start: 1

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