[RBW] Re: Getting pleasantly lost in the bosque

[Michael Hechmer]

Patrick, you have to teach us all the tricks of working with Sram master 
links because they never come apart for me.  Connex links, on the other 
hand, are a snap.
Michael

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:27:38 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Even after 10+ years of riding on the acequia roads and trails within a 5 
> mile radius of home, I still stumble on new paths and neighborhoods -- I 
> daresay they were there before I saw them, possibly, but I feel like 
> Columbus discovering the Americas (which some say had as many as 40M 
> inhabitants immediately pre-Columbus).
>
> Anyway, today's little jaunt to Sprouts for whole wheat flour and Fish 
> turned into a nice detour after I took a previously unexplored path and got 
> lost -- the route varied between week-choked doubletrack and McMansions 
> with beautifully manicured, tree- crowded lawns (nice McMansions; the "faux 
> adobe" style is more forgiving than, say, faux California estancia or faux 
> Williamsburg). 
>
> Anyway, I found myself several miles south of where I wanted to turn west, 
> so I had a nice 19 mile ride.
>
> Fargo, 97*F, the WoolyWarm performed as expected, and the fish didn't 
> spoil.
>
> Photos prove I bought fish.
>
> Oh: after several weeks with nothing but 5 minute thunderstorms, the 
> trails are turning into the usual silty sand. With wax, I find I have to 
> lube every 100 miles or so to avoid squeaks, but that's no chore with 
> crockpot and new dipper.
>
> The SRAM masterlinks always, always, always, come apart docilely in my 
> hand.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
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[RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!

[Michael Hechmer]

Deacon, you must be an animal to ride a SS in that terrain!  Here in Vt I 
can't go out the door without hitting a 10% grade and most rides will have 
at least a 14%  ramp somewhere along the way.  I wouldn't dream of riding 
without at least a 30/26 gear on an unloaded bike.

Michael
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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:48:41 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> No ride too small! I’ve been recovering this week from the brain overload 
> and adrenaline cycles of rifle shots on last Saturday’s ride. It sure was a 
> blessing to get out on today’s recovery ride of 8 miles, as well as get to 
> blow past the poor folks in line two miles back from the Pikes Peak Highway 
> gate (4th of July is a big day for them, America’s Mountain, where America 
> the Beautiful was written).
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/19404757762/in/dateposted-public/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Getting pleasantly lost in the bosque

[Steve Palincsar]

On 07/05/2015 06:08 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
Patrick, you have to teach us all the tricks of working with Sram 
master links because they never come apart for me.  Connex links, on 
the other hand, are a snap.







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[RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning

[Matthew J]

> Lately I've had trouble from other cyclists! 

Chicago has many stop signs.  Many fellow cyclists unfortunately do not 
appear to remember the long time rule when both stop at the same time 
vehicle or bike on your right has the right of way.


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[RBW] FOR SALE: Rivendell Silver 57mm Brake Set

[Call Me Jay]

I bought a set of 57mm Silver brakes from Soma about a month ago for $99 
plus shipping and handling: http://store.somafab.com/risim.html  I removed 
the front brake from the box to assess clearance but the these are 
otherwise unused in the original box.  Really nice brakes but I ended up 
using something else.  $75 shipped in the Lower 48.  Thanks.  

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Re: [RBW] FOR SALE: Rivendell Silver 57mm Brake Set

[Patrick Moore]

Jay -- I'll take them if they are recessed.

What did you use instead?

Thanks, Patrick Moore

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Call Me Jay  wrote:

> I bought a set of 57mm Silver brakes from Soma about a month ago for $99
> plus shipping and handling: http://store.somafab.com/risim.html  I
> removed the front brake from the box to assess clearance but the these are
> otherwise unused in the original box.  Really nice brakes but I ended up
> using something else.  $75 shipped in the Lower 48.  Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Getting pleasantly lost in the bosque

[Jim Dobbins]

+1 on the Park master link tool.  It’s resulted in a significant reduction in 
my Tourette,s syndrome.
-JimD
> On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> On 07/05/2015 06:08 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>> Patrick, you have to teach us all the tricks of working with Sram master 
>> links because they never come apart for me.  Connex links, on the other 
>> hand, are a snap.
> 
> <41UByrXU1dL.jpg>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Getting pleasantly lost in the bosque

[cyclotourist]

+2... a great tool.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Jim Dobbins  wrote:
> +1 on the Park master link tool.  It’s resulted in a significant reduction
> in my Tourette,s syndrome.
> -JimD
>
> On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> On 07/05/2015 06:08 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Patrick, you have to teach us all the tricks of working with Sram master
> links because they never come apart for me.  Connex links, on the other
> hand, are a snap.
>
>
> <41UByrXU1dL.jpg>
>
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Re: [RBW] Getting pleasantly lost in the bosque

[cyclotourist]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4020050243

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:20 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> +2... a great tool.
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Jim Dobbins  wrote:
>> +1 on the Park master link tool.  It’s resulted in a significant reduction
>> in my Tourette,s syndrome.
>> -JimD
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>>
>> On 07/05/2015 06:08 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Patrick, you have to teach us all the tricks of working with Sram master
>> links because they never come apart for me.  Connex links, on the other
>> hand, are a snap.
>>
>>
>> <41UByrXU1dL.jpg>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!

[Beth H]

It's true. No ride is too small. 

I used to avoid too-short rides. The cyclometer on my fork would stare at 
me, gently mocking me if my rides lasted less than five miles.
Then, I decided it was time to tear down my All-Rounder for a long-overdue 
overhaul. To serve me in the meantime, I rebuilt my Bridgestone MB-4 as a 
city bike, with upright bars, racks and fenders. And no cyclometer. I 
decided to try NOT thinking about distance.

That was over a week ago. And after the first couple of rides, I stopped 
caring about distance. And two things happened:

1. I spent more time riding (albeit at a slightly slower pace).
2. I enjoyed my rides more.

I'll be tossing up a bunch of Huret cyclometers on eBay soon. But first, 
another ride before it gets too hot out there.
Happy riding!
Beth in pdx

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 9:48:41 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> No ride too small! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?

[Don Compton]

NICE RESPONSE? I didn't say that I wanted to ride the Eroica 
and break the rules. 

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 9:49:12 PM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote:
>
> The route's been posted; it's on public roads, mostly. You can ride it any 
> other time you want. You just can't ride it as a semi-supported ride on 
> that day, with that particular crowd. And anyway: If you don't want to 
> participate in the spirit of the event, but just ride with a bunch of 
> strangers on whatever bike you feel like riding, there are hundreds of 
> events to accommodate you. Why would you want to whiz all over this one?
>
> Evan: Pre-1980 all-friction barcons are acceptable (Campagnolo, Suntour 
> retrofriction, Simplex); indexed barcons switched to friction position are 
> not, because they can't be sure you won't get out of eyesight and switch 
> back to indexing. As I read it, Silvers pass; the very popular Dura Ace 
> 9-speeds switched to friction do not.
>
> In my last panicky attempts to get a workable Eroica bike ready (Plan 
> A/late 50s Follis Tour de France failed for smallness and my lack of 
> comprehension of pushrod rear derailleurs; Plan B/late 50s Frejus Tour de 
> France fell through because the bike kitchen sold the frameset to a hipster 
> before I got the cash together. I ran into that guy at the farmer's market 
> last week), I was about to try my most Riv-ish bike. My 1971 Raleigh 
> International, rigged out as a loaded tourer (TA 50.4 triple, Huret Duopar, 
> Mafacs, Bruce Gordon F+R racks, SP dyne front). But I thought about all the 
> fiddling of having to replace the 7-sp Suntour Accu-Shift barcons with 
> retrofrictions, and having to strip off the racks, and I gave up.
>
> My understanding from the Eroica CA director (Wesley Hatakeyama, a regular 
> poster on CR) is that the equipment was not aggressively policed this year. 
> I've certainly seen a photo of a guy in full Bianchi lycra on an all-carbon 
> Bianchi with aero brifters *and a race number*, who apparently had no 
> worry about being pulled off the course in the middle of nowhere. That may 
> change as the headcount goes up; apparently, there's a vehicle inspection 
> at the event in Tuscany.
>
> From the reports I read (including one from the course director), there 
> was a rider on an AHH who rode the long (125 mile) course and got hit by a 
> reckless teenaged driver climbing back up the Cambria hills. Apparently, 
> first aid got him patched up well enough that he remounted and finished the 
> course.
>
> Peter Adler
> prissy about rules in
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 5:59:17 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> While I understand the rules and thinking behind these Eroica events, it 
>> would sure be fun to ride these rides on my Roadeo with low gears and some 
>> good tires.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone thinking of going to Eroica California? Paso Robles, April 8-10, 
>>> 2016. As far as I can tell, lugged Rivendells (as "keeper of the flame" 
>>> bikes) qualify if they use non-aero brake levers and downtube shifters or 
>>> bar-end shifters. And of course vintage bikes are welcome.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

[Shawn Granton]

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 3:27:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> "*"bicycling the pacific coast"-* infuriatingly useless the majority of 
> the time, yet a real life saver on occassion. there has got to be a better 
> carry-along book/map/guide for this trip."
>
> The original edition came out sometime in the 1980s.  I have the 4th 
> edition, dated 2005.  So it's quite possible it's due for a thorough 
> re-fresh.  On a trip down the WA/OR coast a few years back I found numerous 
> niggling mistakes but nothing infuriating.  It's generally a decent source 
> of information but all travel books get stale over time.  
>

For a carry along map, the best would probably be the Adventure Cycling 
Association's Pacific Coast route for that section. If you were touring the 
Oregon Coast, the state (ODOT) provides a free bike map with all the 
amenities listed. Haven't seen something comparable for California.

And yeah, they really need to update the book, but I'm wondering if the 
authors are burnt out on it (and I wouldn't blame them if they did!) I like 
the book as an overview type thing, a book to check out at camp in the 
evening or at breakfast. It gives a good impression of the day ahead. But 
it's frustrating to use while on the road. Thankfully most of the ride of 
the coast is "Follow Hwy 1 south". (Or in OR/Nor Cal, "Follow US 101 
south.")

-Shawn 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1

[Justin August]

Cambium is sold pending payment. 

Take the frame + Paul brakes for just $800 + real shipping (I ship then invoice 
you). Add any other parts for $5 off the listed price. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racers, Paul brake levers, TRP Levers, Various Nitto stems and handlebars!

[Avery Wilson]

Update:

80mm Tallux Stem SOLD
TRP Levers SOLD (Sorry, Captain, but they were spoken for before you 
replied!)
80mm Tech Deluxe Stem SOLD
Albastache bars SOLD

Everything else is available:

Nitto RM-013 52cm Dirt Drop Bars 26.0 clamp, Heat Treated, almost 
completely new  - $85 shipped CONUS
Nitto M177 46cm Noddle Bars, Heat Treated, 26.0 missing sticker, scratches, 
decent cond. - $55 shipped CONUS

Nitto Albatross bars CroMo 25.4 clamp. Used, OK cond. - $45 shipped


Nitto Technomic Deluxe 120 25.4 stem - used, fine condition - $45 shipped


Dia-Compe grip knobs, gum hoods, great condition - $30 shipped


Paul Racer centerpull brakes, anodized silver, used, good condition. $175 
shipped
Paul Moon Units anodized silver, used OK condition. $20 with Paul brakes, 
$30 otherwise
Paul Canti-levers short pull brake levers. For 22.2 bars, like Albatross. 
$80 shipped.

Silver headset hanger and Nitto rear wire brake hanger $15 with brakes.


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[RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!

[Deacon Patrick]

I love it, Beth! I much prefer riding by feel to riding by numbers. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 8:57:01 AM UTC-6, Beth H wrote:
>
> And after the first couple of rides, I stopped caring about distance. And 
> two things happened:
>
> 1. I spent more time riding (albeit at a slightly slower pace).
> 2. I enjoyed my rides more.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racers, Paul brake levers, TRP Levers, Various Nitto stems and handlebars!

[Avery E Wilson]

Another update : 12cm 25.4 tech dlx stem sold.
On Jul 5, 2015 1:37 PM, "Avery Wilson"  wrote:

> Update:
>
> 80mm Tallux Stem SOLD
> TRP Levers SOLD (Sorry, Captain, but they were spoken for before you
> replied!)
> 80mm Tech Deluxe Stem SOLD
> Albastache bars SOLD
>
> Everything else is available:
>
> Nitto RM-013 52cm Dirt Drop Bars 26.0 clamp, Heat Treated, almost
> completely new  - $85 shipped CONUS
> Nitto M177 46cm Noddle Bars, Heat Treated, 26.0 missing sticker,
> scratches, decent cond. - $55 shipped CONUS
>
> Nitto Albatross bars CroMo 25.4 clamp. Used, OK cond. - $45 shipped
>
>
> Nitto Technomic Deluxe 120 25.4 stem - used, fine condition - $45 shipped
>
>
> Dia-Compe grip knobs, gum hoods, great condition - $30 shipped
>
>
> Paul Racer centerpull brakes, anodized silver, used, good condition. $175
> shipped
> Paul Moon Units anodized silver, used OK condition. $20 with Paul brakes,
> $30 otherwise
> Paul Canti-levers short pull brake levers. For 22.2 bars, like Albatross.
> $80 shipped.
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> Silver headset hanger and Nitto rear wire brake hanger $15 with brakes.
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Re: [RBW] Getting pleasantly lost in the bosque

[Patrick Moore]

I thought of stopping to take photos as soon as I blundered into what
turned out to be terra incognita, but at the time I was pushing hard
through sand and thick weeds and trying to keep the bike from going into
the irrigation ditch; and after that I forgot about it until I got home.

Michael: I always use pretty dry lubes -- mostly wax with chain oil, Pro
Link, and some purple stuff.

So my chains may not collect the grit that others' do with very thick, wet
lubes. Still, my chains certainly get dirt on them, particularly the
Fargo's. My technique is to pinch the two removable plates together with my
left forefinger and thumb while grabbing the next link in line with the f
finger and thumb of the right hand: push the right toward the left while
wiggling both links and pushing inward on the removable ones. I push and
squeeze gently; no death grip.

 It always seems to work for me.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Liesl  wrote:

> Patrick of the Moore! Photos prove you got fish and can dip your chain,
> but leave some question as to whether you actually got lost! (;
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[RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!

[Abcyclehank]

I agree each and every ride on a Riv can be great.  In Michigan, as a teacher, 
I try to get on one each and every day of summer, winters can be long, hard, 
and cold hence the XXL Moonlander but that is once the week at most.
Twice a week I take the Quickbeam to the local market store for grilling meat 
and fruit only 5 miles round trip.  Two mornings a week I take a quick 12 mile 
loop around Spring Lake via the bike path between 1st and 2nd Breakfast. In the 
evenings at least once a week I ride the Bombadil or "new" Atlantis to Lake 
Michigan for a quick fresh water swim or to play in big waves if we get them; 
15-30 miles round trip depending on route.  Once a week a longer 
exploration/tour ride to where ever the spirits move me generally 30-60 miles 
on the Mark N. custom.  Once every 2-3 years my wife will ride between 2-20 
miles on the tandem to make me consider keeping it another year or two.  

Ryan "riding keeps me young and is good for the soul" Hankinson
Spring Lake "The other West Coast", MI 

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Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning

[Jim Bronson]

I shake my head at people I see out riding around at night without lights
or reflective gear.  I only hope that I am always able to see them and give
them plenty of space.  I've wondered before if there is some bike advocacy
organization around here that I can volunteer to give out lights to
cyclists for.

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> Lately I've had trouble from other cyclists!
> Several times cyclists have been riding the wrong way, towards me on the
> shoulder, which sometimes forced me into the lane to go around them.
> This week as I was driving, two cyclists came riding abreast down a ramp
> head on towards me, forcing me to stop my car suddenly in my lane. Glad I
> didn't get rear ended or hit them.
>
> I don't know what to say to them. Maybe "Wrong side of the road. Your
> gonna get hit.", or something? Not much of a window to talk as they pass me.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!

[Patrick Moore]

IMO, the best riding is turning errand rides into longer detours. Fri: 21
mile gofast out and back on the dead flat Rio Grande bike path (17.03 and
17.76 mph averages, clock running including several brief stops on both
legs). Saturday: 19.23 miles on the Fargo, getting lost in some sandy
doubletrack and newly discovered McMansion territory on the way back from
what was planned to be a 12 mile rt to a nearby grocery store. Today, 16.XX
miles rt to and from church.

Aside: humid today -- 75+% or so and ~ 77F outbound at 9:20 am; ~ 30%s and
low 90s return. The WoolyWarm is not as comfortable when the humidity gets
above the natural ~15% cutoff. I daresay that plastic jerseys are better in
90F high humidity, given the stink. But for our typical 95F sub 20% (sub
10% is common in the afternoons), wool is the cat's pyjamas.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Abcyclehank  wrote:

> I agree each and every ride on a Riv can be great.  In Michigan, as a
> teacher, I try to get on one each and every day of summer, winters can be
> long, hard, and cold hence the XXL Moonlander but that is once the week at
> most.
> Twice a week I take the Quickbeam to the local market store for grilling
> meat and fruit only 5 miles round trip.  Two mornings a week I take a quick
> 12 mile loop around Spring Lake via the bike path between 1st and 2nd
> Breakfast. In the evenings at least once a week I ride the Bombadil or
> "new" Atlantis to Lake Michigan for a quick fresh water swim or to play in
> big waves if we get them; 15-30 miles round trip depending on route.  Once
> a week a longer exploration/tour ride to where ever the spirits move me
> generally 30-60 miles on the Mark N. custom.  Once every 2-3 years my wife
> will ride between 2-20 miles on the tandem to make me consider keeping it
> another year or two.
>
> Ryan "riding keeps me young and is good for the soul" Hankinson
> Spring Lake "The other West Coast", MI
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[RBW] Re: New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

NEW ACW member here...Soon to receive my almost matchy-match mug to my sage 
Sam.
I'm interested in reading about the equipment members use also as I'm just 
starting to collect stove, brewer etc.
Do most of you go by yourself or do you have a ACW group you get together 
with.
Sounds like fun.
Jon



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Re: [RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!

[dougP]

"IMO, the best riding is turning errand rides into longer detours."

One of my touring buds treats every errand as an opportunity for 
adventure.  If needs a part from the hardware store, for instance, he'll 
ride 10 miles instead of walk around the corner.  He delights in hooking up 
his trailer for a run to the big box warehouse for bulky items on special 
sales.  He lures people onto S24Os by offering to carry their gear if they 
don't have racks or luggage, and always loads up the trailer with firewood 
for these events.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 2:42:39 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> IMO, the best riding is turning errand rides into longer detours. Fri: 21 
> mile gofast out and back on the dead flat Rio Grande bike path (17.03 and 
> 17.76 mph averages, clock running including several brief stops on both 
> legs). Saturday: 19.23 miles on the Fargo, getting lost in some sandy 
> doubletrack and newly discovered McMansion territory on the way back from 
> what was planned to be a 12 mile rt to a nearby grocery store. Today, 16.XX 
> miles rt to and from church.
>
> Aside: humid today -- 75+% or so and ~ 77F outbound at 9:20 am; ~ 30%s and 
> low 90s return. The WoolyWarm is not as comfortable when the humidity gets 
> above the natural ~15% cutoff. I daresay that plastic jerseys are better in 
> 90F high humidity, given the stink. But for our typical 95F sub 20% (sub 
> 10% is common in the afternoons), wool is the cat's pyjamas.
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Abcyclehank 
> > wrote:
>
>> I agree each and every ride on a Riv can be great.  In Michigan, as a 
>> teacher, I try to get on one each and every day of summer, winters can be 
>> long, hard, and cold hence the XXL Moonlander but that is once the week at 
>> most.
>> Twice a week I take the Quickbeam to the local market store for grilling 
>> meat and fruit only 5 miles round trip.  Two mornings a week I take a quick 
>> 12 mile loop around Spring Lake via the bike path between 1st and 2nd 
>> Breakfast. In the evenings at least once a week I ride the Bombadil or 
>> "new" Atlantis to Lake Michigan for a quick fresh water swim or to play in 
>> big waves if we get them; 15-30 miles round trip depending on route.  Once 
>> a week a longer exploration/tour ride to where ever the spirits move me 
>> generally 30-60 miles on the Mark N. custom.  Once every 2-3 years my wife 
>> will ride between 2-20 miles on the tandem to make me consider keeping it 
>> another year or two.
>>
>> Ryan "riding keeps me young and is good for the soul" Hankinson
>> Spring Lake "The other West Coast", MI
>>
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[RBW] Ram as 650 tourer?!?

[alan lavine]

Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?)

I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits 
into my stable.  I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and 
I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. 
 I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring 
bike...looking for 38's with full fenders.

Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all?  I've 
never ridden 650's before.  Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, 
depending on available reach, what other modifications are required?

The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture?

Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but 
I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it.

Alan LaVine
NYC

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[RBW] Ram as 650 tourer?!?

[David Banzer]

I converted my Redwood (less fancy Ram) to 650b. It currently has 48mm tires 
with room for fenders. Clearance is tight at the chainstays but doable so far. 
Using long reach Tektros, you might need to file a little depending on rim and 
brake pads. 
It easily is my favorite bike after the conversion. 
David
Chicago 

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Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning

[Lungimsam]

It happened again today! Some guy in carbon kit came up the wrong side of the 
shoulder at me and the wife. For his safety I told him "Don't ride against 
traffic. You'll get hit.". That's about all the speaking time I had while he 
passed by.

Later, on the trip home I saw him riding on another street but this time with 
traffic. Don't know if that had anything to do with what I said or not.

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[RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?

[Fullylugged]

Spec was 35 mm with fenders or 37 mm without. So you can put bigger tires 
on and stay at 700. Or you can convert and go much larger.  Your serial # 
indicates early production at Toyo.

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 5:44:47 PM UTC-5, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?)
> I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits 
> into my stable.  I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and 
> I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. 
>  I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring 
> bike...looking for 38's with full fenders.
>
> Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? 
>  I've never ridden 650's before.  Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, 
> depending on available reach, what other modifications are required?
>
> The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture?
>
> Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but 
> I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it.
>
> Alan LaVine
> NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

[Ginz]

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111710213444&globalID=EBAY-US
 

The elusive 47cm Ram. Tempting, but the build kit is a bit too far off from my 
needs/taste. 

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[RBW] Ram as 650 tourer?!?

[Joe Bernard]

It's feasible, but 650b conversions are usually done on bikes with short-reach 
brakes and higher-than-Riv bottom brackets. The Ram starts with medium-reach 
and a low BB, so getting long-range brakes to work is dicey, plus you're 
looking at possible pedal strike issues in corners. 

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Re: [RBW] Ram as 650 tourer?!?

[Tim Gavin]

Alan-

I really like my 650-converted Riv Road Standard
,
which had short-reach brakes but an even lower bottom bracket (80 mm
drop).  It now fits 38 mm tires (fork legs and chain stays are tight) with
45 mm fenders, and rides great.

I have scraped the pedal slightly in corners, so I'm very careful not to
pedal through corners any more.  Seems a small tradeoff for wider tires,
fenders, and a great ride.  The BB is so low that I feel more like a part
of the bike than perched on top of it.  I'm careful to level out my pedals
when riding over obstacles.

As others have stated, you may have issues finding effective brakes with
enough reach.  Dia-Compe 750 centerpulls have tons of reach, and can be
effective with good pads, good housing, and a low straddle cable.

Tim Gavin,
Cedar Rapids, IA

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> It's feasible, but 650b conversions are usually done on bikes with
> short-reach brakes and higher-than-Riv bottom brackets. The Ram starts with
> medium-reach and a low BB, so getting long-range brakes to work is dicey,
> plus you're looking at possible pedal strike issues in corners.
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[RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Anyone thinking of going to Eroica California? Paso Robles, April 8-10, 
> 2016. As far as I can tell, lugged Rivendells (as "keeper of the flame" 
> bikes) qualify if they use non-aero brake levers and downtube shifters or 
> bar-end shifters. And of course vintage bikes are welcome.
>

I'm thinking of participating, although I haven't settled on a bike yet. On 
one hand, "downdating" my Riv to the prerequisite equipment may be fun; on 
the other hand, it's a good excuse to get a true classic ride (like a 
70/80's Masi). :)

Whatever it is, I'm sorry I missed this year and I'll be sure to sign up 
for next year's.



 

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[RBW] Re: New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

[drew]

maybe a ridiculous question and slightly off topic, but... im aware you 
cannot put a double wall titanium mug over direct heat. does the same go 
for a double wall steel mug?  



On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 4:57:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> The RIV crowd seems to be fully steeped in the whole coffee outside 
> movement. Myself included. So I wanted to tap the wisdom of the group 
> regarding your coffee "on the bike" preferences.
>
> With my last batch of ACW mugs, I did some special packages with limited 
> edition Columbia coffee beans roasted locally by Kaladi Coffee Co. They 
> sold out quick. Now with a new batch of mugs, I have the opportunity to 
> choose another coffee and do it again. Problem is, I rarely try different 
> varieties which made me wonder what everyone else is cooking up. Out of 
> that curiosity, I thought it would be interesting to compare your full 
> checklist of coffee outside gear preferences.
>
> Bike: Atlantis - 26" fattys - Albatross
> Bag: Baggins Little Joe seat mounted
> Coffee: Kaladi Peru, or Ocean Air Cycles Hobo Roleur (pre ground at 
> home...for now) These are both a medium Viennese roast.
> Stove: Caldera Keg
> Ignition: Swedish firesteel
> Brewer: Pourover or Aeropress, although I lean pourover on the bike.
> Mug: ACW and Snowpeak 
> Accoutrements: Small plastic bottles to hold cream, coffee, and white 
> fuel. Separately of course. One or two bandanas. Pocket knife. I usually 
> try to pack food of some sort. Apples, almonds, cheese among my favorite.
> Comfort: NOW with Hammock! I've only had chance to use it once, but it's 
> most likely permanent.
> NEED: Small cutting board - Portable grinder (GSI or Porlexcant 
> decide???)
>
> When I got my first Rivendell after my daughter was born 8 years ago, it 
> changed the way I rode for the happier. Adding mobile coffee to the 
> equation redoubled that enjoyment.
>
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[RBW] Wanted: your broken or mangled alloy fenders

[Anton Tutter]

I'm looking for some mangled, cracked or otherwise unwanted aluminum 
fenders (Honjo, VO, Electra, etc). They're not for a bike, but to 
re-purpose as a display for the taillights that I am now manufacturing. 
Hoping for free, but am willing to pay a nominal price depending on 
condition, plus shipping.

Interested in any style (hammered, fluted, smooth, etc) and width of fender.

Contact me if off-list you have something that fits the bill!

Anton

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racers, Paul brake levers, TRP Levers, Various Nitto stems and handlebars!

[Avery E Wilson]

Albatross bars are spoken for.

Paul Brakes,  brake levers, and drop bars -  both noodles and nitto rm-013
dirt drops still available.
On Jul 5, 2015 2:00 PM, "Avery E Wilson"  wrote:

> Another update : 12cm 25.4 tech dlx stem sold.
> On Jul 5, 2015 1:37 PM, "Avery Wilson"  wrote:
>
>> Update:
>>
>> 80mm Tallux Stem SOLD
>> TRP Levers SOLD (Sorry, Captain, but they were spoken for before you
>> replied!)
>> 80mm Tech Deluxe Stem SOLD
>> Albastache bars SOLD
>>
>> Everything else is available:
>>
>> Nitto RM-013 52cm Dirt Drop Bars 26.0 clamp, Heat Treated, almost
>> completely new  - $85 shipped CONUS
>> Nitto M177 46cm Noddle Bars, Heat Treated, 26.0 missing sticker,
>> scratches, decent cond. - $55 shipped CONUS
>>
>> Nitto Albatross bars CroMo 25.4 clamp. Used, OK cond. - $45 shipped
>>
>>
>> Nitto Technomic Deluxe 120 25.4 stem - used, fine condition - $45 shipped
>>
>>
>> Dia-Compe grip knobs, gum hoods, great condition - $30 shipped
>>
>>
>> Paul Racer centerpull brakes, anodized silver, used, good condition. $175
>> shipped
>> Paul Moon Units anodized silver, used OK condition. $20 with Paul brakes,
>> $30 otherwise
>> Paul Canti-levers short pull brake levers. For 22.2 bars, like Albatross.
>> $80 shipped.
>>
>> Silver headset hanger and Nitto rear wire brake hanger $15 with brakes.
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

[Deacon Patrick]

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:23:25 PM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>
> maybe a ridiculous question and slightly off topic, but... im aware you 
> cannot put a double wall titanium mug over direct heat. does the same go 
> for a double wall steel mug?  
>

Drew, the question isn't ridiculous, just the action. Grin. It would be 
like putting any insulated thermos on heat -- you will over heat and/or 
melt the insulate chamber/barrier and damage it. Insulated containers hold 
cold or hot liquid/food but don't cook them.

My set up, which I use for bike packing and generally not day rides is:

Bike: Hunqapillar (QB sometimes for day jaunts)
Bag: large trunksack mounted on mini front rack, bikepacking. Small saddle 
sack on QB for day jaunts.
Coffee: Local organic roast, as light as I can get it, which is generally 
medium.
Stove: Fire Box Stove bikepacking; Trangia with mini-stand day for some day 
trips when I don't want to mess with a wood fire.
Ignition: pipe lighter
Brewer: Pourover through cotton filter helio cone.
Mug: ACW
Accoutrements: Boil water in Kleen Kanteen single wall, brew into 20 oz 
Kleen Kanteen insulated, and then get 3 cups of coffee from it. Leather 
gloves or bandana as pot holders. Small plastic bottles to hold cream, 
which has been known to become butter.
Comfort: day trips: canvas tarp to sit on; bikepacking thermarest foam pad.
NEED: Set up is complete, so long as I remember everything. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem

[Tony DeFilippo]

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/07/harpers-ferry-by-tandem.html

My wife and I followed up on our successful Great Falls ride a couple weeks 
ago by significantly upping the ante and riding out to Harper's Ferry and 
back this past Tues-Weds.  The trip was fantastic, we're still speaking to 
eachother even!  In fact there has been plenty of discussion about future 
tandem trips and/or re-doing this trip with some variations and additional 
company added in.  I know there are some of you looking at C&O trips in the 
next couple months so I included alot about the trail conditions and what 
we found along the way in my blog post.  Bottom line is that the extremely 
wet weather  has predictably made portions of the towpath pretty muddy.  In 
general though it is easily accomplished on a riv-ish equipped bike.  I'll 
definitely do this trip again, and other than some minor tweaks I wouldn't 
want to change much from this experience.  

Erl met up with us on our way out at Fletcher's boat house and got a great 
shot of us at the start of our trip shown below;



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Re: [RBW] New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

[cyclotourist]

Brad, I could really use a SS insulated pint glass to keep my
artisanal summer beverages frosty cold.

Just sayin.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> The RIV crowd seems to be fully steeped in the whole coffee outside
> movement. Myself included. So I wanted to tap the wisdom of the group
> regarding your coffee "on the bike" preferences.
>
> With my last batch of ACW mugs, I did some special packages with limited
> edition Columbia coffee beans roasted locally by Kaladi Coffee Co. They sold
> out quick. Now with a new batch of mugs, I have the opportunity to choose
> another coffee and do it again. Problem is, I rarely try different varieties
> which made me wonder what everyone else is cooking up. Out of that
> curiosity, I thought it would be interesting to compare your full checklist
> of coffee outside gear preferences.
>
> Bike: Atlantis - 26" fattys - Albatross
> Bag: Baggins Little Joe seat mounted
> Coffee: Kaladi Peru, or Ocean Air Cycles Hobo Roleur (pre ground at
> home...for now) These are both a medium Viennese roast.
> Stove: Caldera Keg
> Ignition: Swedish firesteel
> Brewer: Pourover or Aeropress, although I lean pourover on the bike.
> Mug: ACW and Snowpeak
> Accoutrements: Small plastic bottles to hold cream, coffee, and white fuel.
> Separately of course. One or two bandanas. Pocket knife. I usually try to
> pack food of some sort. Apples, almonds, cheese among my favorite.
> Comfort: NOW with Hammock! I've only had chance to use it once, but it's
> most likely permanent.
> NEED: Small cutting board - Portable grinder (GSI or Porlexcant
> decide???)
>
> When I got my first Rivendell after my daughter was born 8 years ago, it
> changed the way I rode for the happier. Adding mobile coffee to the equation
> redoubled that enjoyment.
>
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Re: [RBW] New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

[dougP]

Don't allow them to linger in the glass so long.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:04:03 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Brad, I could really use a SS insulated pint glass to keep my 
> artisanal summer beverages frosty cold. 
>
> Just sayin. 
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> > wrote: 
> > The RIV crowd seems to be fully steeped in the whole coffee outside 
> > movement. Myself included. So I wanted to tap the wisdom of the group 
> > regarding your coffee "on the bike" preferences. 
> > 
> > With my last batch of ACW mugs, I did some special packages with limited 
> > edition Columbia coffee beans roasted locally by Kaladi Coffee Co. They 
> sold 
> > out quick. Now with a new batch of mugs, I have the opportunity to 
> choose 
> > another coffee and do it again. Problem is, I rarely try different 
> varieties 
> > which made me wonder what everyone else is cooking up. Out of that 
> > curiosity, I thought it would be interesting to compare your full 
> checklist 
> > of coffee outside gear preferences. 
> > 
> > Bike: Atlantis - 26" fattys - Albatross 
> > Bag: Baggins Little Joe seat mounted 
> > Coffee: Kaladi Peru, or Ocean Air Cycles Hobo Roleur (pre ground at 
> > home...for now) These are both a medium Viennese roast. 
> > Stove: Caldera Keg 
> > Ignition: Swedish firesteel 
> > Brewer: Pourover or Aeropress, although I lean pourover on the bike. 
> > Mug: ACW and Snowpeak 
> > Accoutrements: Small plastic bottles to hold cream, coffee, and white 
> fuel. 
> > Separately of course. One or two bandanas. Pocket knife. I usually try 
> to 
> > pack food of some sort. Apples, almonds, cheese among my favorite. 
> > Comfort: NOW with Hammock! I've only had chance to use it once, but it's 
> > most likely permanent. 
> > NEED: Small cutting board - Portable grinder (GSI or Porlexcant 
> > decide???) 
> > 
> > When I got my first Rivendell after my daughter was born 8 years ago, it 
> > changed the way I rode for the happier. Adding mobile coffee to the 
> equation 
> > redoubled that enjoyment. 
> > 
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[RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem

[WETH]

Tony,
Well done!  I am pleased to read how well the trip went, other than the two 
flats.  I am also glad you tamed the stairway at Harpers Ferry!  I'll never 
forget experiencing that at the end of a 75 mile day.
Thanks for letting me tag along for a while.  I enjoyed riding with you two.
-Erl

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Re: [RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem

[Tony DeFilippo]

I'm so glad you warned me about the stairs... it was a daunting last
challenge for sure.  :)

Absolutely on the ride along, hopefully it works out on the VA side coming
up here soon!

Tony


On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 10:18 PM WETH  wrote:

> Tony,
> Well done!  I am pleased to read how well the trip went, other than the
> two flats.  I am also glad you tamed the stairway at Harpers Ferry!  I'll
> never forget experiencing that at the end of a 75 mile day.
> Thanks for letting me tag along for a while.  I enjoyed riding with you
> two.
> -Erl
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

[dougP]

That is tempting.  My wife's Atlantis is also a 47.  Wonder if she'd 
complain about having a second Riv?  

The scuffed up RD suggests it's been down at some point.  Overall the build 
ain't bad but the double could be a talking point.  "Flight Deck"?  
Hmmm..No rear rack eyelets?  Still, the price is pretty attractive.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 5:18:47 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:
>
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111710213444&globalID=EBAY-US
>  
>
> The elusive 47cm Ram. Tempting, but the build kit is a bit too far off 
> from my needs/taste. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

[Liesl]

Ah, so yes! Pea soup green, pewter, or pick your own--especially if it hadn't 
been painted yet. The upgraded head badges came in bronze or pewter; otherwise 
they were cloisonné.

The butterscotch Salukis are so pretty.

The Salukis are so pretty.

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[RBW] Any Riv riders in or around the Flathead Valley, MT?

[Zach Duval]

I'll be moving up to Kalispell, MT at the end of this month, which has me 
stoked for MT lake country rides as well as rides into Glacier NP. Being 
new to the area, also, I'll be keen to meet a few folks with common cycling 
interests who might know local rides well. 

Does anyone from this group ride in the area? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

[Kellie]

Here's a photo of the cloisonné head badge, production #83 





On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:42:58 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> Ah, so yes! Pea soup green, pewter, or pick your own--especially if it 
> hadn't been painted yet. The upgraded head badges came in bronze or pewter; 
> otherwise they were cloisonné. 
>
> The butterscotch Salukis are so pretty. 
>
> The Salukis are so pretty.

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay

[cyclotourist]

Crank is the only downside IMHO, and compact doubles are cheap!

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:25 PM, dougP  wrote:
> That is tempting.  My wife's Atlantis is also a 47.  Wonder if she'd
> complain about having a second Riv?
>
> The scuffed up RD suggests it's been down at some point.  Overall the build
> ain't bad but the double could be a talking point.  "Flight Deck"?
> Hmmm..No rear rack eyelets?  Still, the price is pretty attractive.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 5:18:47 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111710213444&globalID=EBAY-US
>>
>> The elusive 47cm Ram. Tempting, but the build kit is a bit too far off
>> from my needs/taste.
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

[cyclotourist]

Yep, there's that...

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:11 PM, dougP  wrote:
> Don't allow them to linger in the glass so long.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:04:03 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Brad, I could really use a SS insulated pint glass to keep my
>> artisanal summer beverages frosty cold.
>>
>> Just sayin.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
>>  wrote:
>> > The RIV crowd seems to be fully steeped in the whole coffee outside
>> > movement. Myself included. So I wanted to tap the wisdom of the group
>> > regarding your coffee "on the bike" preferences.
>> >
>> > With my last batch of ACW mugs, I did some special packages with limited
>> > edition Columbia coffee beans roasted locally by Kaladi Coffee Co. They
>> > sold
>> > out quick. Now with a new batch of mugs, I have the opportunity to
>> > choose
>> > another coffee and do it again. Problem is, I rarely try different
>> > varieties
>> > which made me wonder what everyone else is cooking up. Out of that
>> > curiosity, I thought it would be interesting to compare your full
>> > checklist
>> > of coffee outside gear preferences.
>> >
>> > Bike: Atlantis - 26" fattys - Albatross
>> > Bag: Baggins Little Joe seat mounted
>> > Coffee: Kaladi Peru, or Ocean Air Cycles Hobo Roleur (pre ground at
>> > home...for now) These are both a medium Viennese roast.
>> > Stove: Caldera Keg
>> > Ignition: Swedish firesteel
>> > Brewer: Pourover or Aeropress, although I lean pourover on the bike.
>> > Mug: ACW and Snowpeak
>> > Accoutrements: Small plastic bottles to hold cream, coffee, and white
>> > fuel.
>> > Separately of course. One or two bandanas. Pocket knife. I usually try
>> > to
>> > pack food of some sort. Apples, almonds, cheese among my favorite.
>> > Comfort: NOW with Hammock! I've only had chance to use it once, but it's
>> > most likely permanent.
>> > NEED: Small cutting board - Portable grinder (GSI or Porlexcant
>> > decide???)
>> >
>> > When I got my first Rivendell after my daughter was born 8 years ago, it
>> > changed the way I rode for the happier. Adding mobile coffee to the
>> > equation
>> > redoubled that enjoyment.
>> >
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Re: [RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem

[cyclotourist]

Any tandem ride ending with your still talking civilly is a good one!

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
> I'm so glad you warned me about the stairs... it was a daunting last
> challenge for sure.  :)
>
> Absolutely on the ride along, hopefully it works out on the VA side coming
> up here soon!
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 10:18 PM WETH  wrote:
>>
>> Tony,
>> Well done!  I am pleased to read how well the trip went, other than the
>> two flats.  I am also glad you tamed the stairway at Harpers Ferry!  I'll
>> never forget experiencing that at the end of a 75 mile day.
>> Thanks for letting me tag along for a while.  I enjoyed riding with you
>> two.
>> -Erl
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Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning

[Peter Adler]

Counter-current riding (what BikeSnobNYC calls "bike salmoning" has 
escalated rapidly in the last five years.

A friend of mine was on the citizen's police review board of Richmond, CA a 
few years back. His explanation of the original behavior came from street 
cops: Allegedly, the practice was originally done by drug dealers, who rode 
against traffic in order to sight police cruisers quickly enough to ditch 
contraband. That can no longer be the case, or else there are hundreds of 
drug dealers biking around my neighborhood. Some of them are little old 
ladies of advanced years, and some are 12-year old kids.

When I first complaint about this to my 74-year old mother, who'd been out 
of the US for several years, she told me that in her 50s youth, pedestrians 
were advised to walk on the pavement against the flow of street traffic, so 
that they could see dangerous vehicles in advance. She also said that it 
was advised in women's self-defense classes. I certainly don't remember 
such advice from my own 70s yoot; does anyone know whether this advice has 
resurfaced?

On the occasions where I come to a near-collision with a salmoning cyclist, 
I've wanted to interrogate them: What's your reasoning here? Why do you 
think this is a good idea? It's gratifying to think that some people really 
don't have a self-justification for this silly, dangerous behavior, beyond 
"I saw somebody else doing it", and they'll change if someone just tells 
them that they aren't wearing any clothes.

Unfortunately, I live in a big college town, where a large percentage of 
the bike population are 18-25 year olds away from adult supervision for the 
first time in their lives. Upsetting other people and defying rules are 
often features, not bugs.

Peter Adler
that's when I turn on the highbeams, to blind the idiots in
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 3:58:33 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> It happened again today! Some guy in carbon kit came up the wrong side of 
> the shoulder at me and the wife. For his safety I told him "Don't ride 
> against traffic. You'll get hit.". That's about all the speaking time I had 
> while he passed by. 
>
> Later, on the trip home I saw him riding on another street but this time 
> with traffic. Don't know if that had anything to do with what I said or not.

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Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning

[Justin August]

Ironically I was brought up in the 80s in small town West Virginia being told 
to always bike against traffic. Not until I was driving at age 16 did I realize 
how utterly insane that was. Now here in the Bay I get unreasonably mad when I 
have to drive and folks are salmoning. It's not like we don't have the bike 
lanes going the right way!

-Justin, Oakland by way of Many Places

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[RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?

[Nick Worthington]

I rode this year, plan on riding again next year.  I didn't want to 
back-date my Romulus, so I rode my 1940's 3-speed (Short course)  My wife 
rode her Betty, and I know at least one of the Riv staff rode, but not on a 
Riv.  If you are into old bikes, it's a great event - lots to see, lots of 
like minded folks to talk to.

I also ride Cino Heroica in Montana, Which is a totally different 
experience - more of a community ride on old bikes.  (And lots more 
dirt/gravel)  Both rides are good, but I think I prefer Cino.  (Rivendell 
is/has been a sponsor of Cino)

For next year, I've ordered a Rodeo, and plan on building it to conform to 
Cino/Eroica specs.

Nick Worthington

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Anyone thinking of going to Eroica California? Paso Robles, April 8-10, 
> 2016. As far as I can tell, lugged Rivendells (as "keeper of the flame" 
> bikes) qualify if they use non-aero brake levers and downtube shifters or 
> bar-end shifters. And of course vintage bikes are welcome.
>
> Details:
>
> http://www.eroicacalifornia.com
>
> Evan 
>

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