Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires
I'd try 'em but they are a mite large for my Ram which maxes out at 37 mm.. I've been pretty happy with the 1.25" Pasela folders. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone been able to compare the Compass' against Paselas in the same > size? > > -Aaron Y. > Rochester, NY > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Bill Spencer wrote: > >> I bit the bullet and paid the big bucks for these.Worth every penny. >> >> Bill >> >> On Oct 4, 1:25 pm, johnb wrote: >> > I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled >> > the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons which >> > are bombproof but... >> > >> > john >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Brooks website
Just saw this: http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/the-new-rivendell-website/?utm_source=fbpage&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Blog70_06.10.2011 Cool! -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GCfEh_U7WEcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Brooks website
Very cool! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:01 AM, Leslie wrote: Just saw this: http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/the-new-rivendell-website/?utm_source=fbpage&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Blog70_06.10.2011 Cool! -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GCfEh_U7WEcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
Hey Peter, folks have shared a lot of great insight and experience on this thread. I'll just be redundant and say, call up the folks at Riv, talk to them and trust them. I own two Rivs, a Quickbeam I picked up used and a Hilsen I've had for 3 years. I used to have a Rambouillet but just didn't need it with the Hilsen and it was just a tad small. Given your stated plans for the bike I say go with an Atlantis. I purchased an LHT for touring earlier this year and just love it. LOVE IT! Can't say enough good things about it. Given my experiences with the various Rivs and my LHT, I say go for an Atlantis. I don't see how you could go wrong. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
Erm that is North Korea. I do business with South Korea and they are excellent people to work with (that is where bike stuff is made when it says made in Korea since most of her world has an embargo against North Korea). Just FYI. On Oct 5, 2011 11:51 PM, "rcnute" wrote: > http://www.korea-dpr.com/business.htm > > Personnel are highly motivated! > > Ryan > > On Oct 5, 1:41 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: >> I've been specing out a potential bicycle build and I'm trying to see >> what parts I can get from places which have pretty reasonable working >> conditions and rights of workers - especially something resembling a >> living wage, etc. >> >> So I am thinking places like the US, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, >> Australia, NZ, the UK, Canada, portions of taiwan, etc. (RE: Taiwan >> and Japan, I'm working on the basis that given Rivendell's level of >> precision in their corporate behavior that they would would not do >> business with folks if they thought the workers building their bikes >> were being exploited or treated badly) >> >> I'm trying to nail down manufacturing locations for a number of products. >> >> Some of them are easy - they list them on the site directly. >> >> But - can anyone tell me where DT-swiss rims (for example) are made? >> >> How about the manufacturer of any of the Grand Bois non-tire parts? >> >> How about cassette manufacturers? Is it pretty much shimano, sram and sunrace? >> >> Deraillers? Is it the same as the above? >> >> I was hoping someone else has already been through this little game >> and had suggestions for me. >> >> Thanks, >> -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
Dear Joe, I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here, I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in person. In fact, sort of the opposite! Cheers, John @ RBW HQ On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd rather get > some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting into a direct phone > call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes with taking that next step > which some of us find a little intimidating. Or maybe it's just me.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] So Torn, Cannot Decide
Here's the Atlantis geometry on Cyclofiend's site: http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/atlantis/rr21_pg18scr.jpg On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Peter M wrote: > So finally have the funds and approval from the wife to go ahead and > buy a new riv frameset only really cannot decide which one. I was > leaning towards the Hillborne but now looking at the Atlantis I really > like the finish and the fact I could go to huge tires if I wanted to > one day. I currently live in NYC but am moving back upstate soon so > need something I can take on gravel roads and not wipe out. IThe > question is, is the Atlantis overkill? I know it is twice the price > but that is not really a concern (well it is but I am willing to spend > the extra if it means having the best bike out there). I was also > looking at the Hunqapillar but it seems to be more of MTB with a short > headtube and I really want to get the bars nice and high for my > Albatross bars. Also can someone who owns a 58cm Atlantis let me know > how it fits? I am 5'11" with a PBH of 85.5, most definitely not a > racer at 250lbs. The geometry at Riv is currently down so not sure how > the 58 would fit but would really like to stick with 700c wheels since > I already have an MB-2 with 26ers. Thanks for any words of wisdom out > there on the group. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys. The issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a Rivendell to give it a test ride let alone a dealer to get to up close and personal. I know Harris has some models but again that is a bit of a Trek (4 hours in the car) for me from Brooklyn and since I have been blissfully car free since 2004 I would have to bum a ride from somebody which I hate having to do. I just would hate buying something and then deciding its just not for me but realize I have to pull the trigger on something. I wish someone had a 52cm Sam for sale so I could see if it was indeed too small, at 84ish PBH I fall right in that middle ground of alot of riv bikes but have never had the chance to actually ride one to see on what side of the divide I fall. I might just wind up buying the 56cm Sam to see how it fits since it is the cheapest option and sell it this summer to pick up the Atlantis. Losing a couple hundred on the Sam will hurt less than losing over 500 on the Atlantis if I decide to sell. Again if anyone has a 52cm Sam to sell I would pick that up too, doesnt matter what color/brakes/etc. On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, John Bennett wrote: > Dear Joe, > > I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here, > I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in > person. In fact, sort of the opposite! > > Cheers, > > John @ RBW HQ > > On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > > > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd rather get > > some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting into a direct phone > > call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes with taking that next step > > which some of us find a little intimidating. Or maybe it's just me..- Hide > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
Quoth the Compass website, at least about handlebars: "All Grand Bois handlebars are *made in Japan by Nitto*." At some point a few years ago I remember seeing an online photo tour of one of Shimano's wheelbuilding plants (Malaysia, maybe?) and it seemed a fairly pleasant place; of course, it is only one among many, I'm sure. In general though, given the economic crisis, the world is not a very friendly place for worker's rights at the moment (even/especially in Europe). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s8oKZzeHJckJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Web Site
I have found that you can have a bike built with whatever parts you want whether they are on their site or not just like a LBS. I had my Atlantis built with Paul Neo-Retro in front and the Touring Cantis in back with the Canti levers. It was a sweet set up. You probably have to call to arrange this though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OjF5sdaWxxIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket
Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. This one has less than 100 miles on it and is in virtually new condition. (Bolt caps haven't been installed and I have box and packing.) This is set up as a 46/30 double. I'm looking for $175 shipped anywhere in the US except Alaska or Hawaii. I also have a Velo Orange 122mm bottom bracket for use with the above for an additional $20. Thanks for looking. steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
Good point, Jeremy. The notion that there are "good countries" (e.g., Republic of China) and "bad countries" (e.g., People's Republic of China) is rather simplistic. There are plenty of exploited workers in every country, including the US. Buying (or trying to buy) from specific manufacturers that observe good practices is a sounder strategy, IMO. I don't know if the folks at Riv personally visit every one of their suppliers, but it is clear they care about people, and not just profit, and that is one reason why I feel good about giving them my business. David G, Madison WI (where the governor seems to be on a mission to weaken worker's rights) On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Till wrote: > Quoth the Compass website, at least about handlebars: > > "All Grand Bois handlebars are *made in Japan by Nitto*." > > At some point a few years ago I remember seeing an online photo tour of one > of Shimano's wheelbuilding plants (Malaysia, maybe?) and it seemed a fairly > pleasant place; of course, it is only one among many, I'm sure. > > In general though, given the economic crisis, the world is not a very > friendly place for worker's rights at the moment (even/especially in > Europe). > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket
I'll take it. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of notesman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. This one has less than 100 miles on it and is in virtually new condition. (Bolt caps haven't been installed and I have box and packing.) This is set up as a 46/30 double. I'm looking for $175 shipped anywhere in the US except Alaska or Hawaii. I also have a Velo Orange 122mm bottom bracket for use with the above for an additional $20. Thanks for looking. steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket
Steve, Arm length? -Ken On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:43 PM, notesman wrote: > Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 > BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known > TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. > This one has less than 100 miles on it and is in virtually new > condition. (Bolt caps haven't been installed and I have box and > packing.) This is set up as a 46/30 double. I'm looking for $175 > shipped anywhere in the US except Alaska or Hawaii. I also have a Velo > Orange 122mm bottom bracket for use with the above for an additional > $20. > Thanks for looking. > steve > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket
That is, I'll take them both. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of notesman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. This one has less than 100 miles on it and is in virtually new condition. (Bolt caps haven't been installed and I have box and packing.) This is set up as a 46/30 double. I'm looking for $175 shipped anywhere in the US except Alaska or Hawaii. I also have a Velo Orange 122mm bottom bracket for use with the above for an additional $20. Thanks for looking. steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Web Site
on 10/6/11 10:34 AM, johnb at jbust...@gmail.com wrote: I have found that you can have a bike built with whatever parts you want whether they are on their site or not just like a LBS. I had my Atlantis built with Paul Neo-Retro in front and the Touring Cantis in back with the Canti levers. It was a sweet set up. You probably have to call to arrange this though. Speaking from too many years in retail, there is always a balance between "everything you want to stock", "everything you should stock", "everything you need to stock" and "what you can afford to devote capital, floorspace, time and energy to stock". It's a difficult, constantly shifting and multi-variable equation. Stuff I've loved and use sits there gathering dust, mocking me in it's unsellability, while that pesky 20% quietly and almost unnoticeably accounts for the 80% of cash flow and sell-through. IME, Rivendell has always been able to work with their key suppliers of choice to get the right stuff if it isn't on their shelves, or tells you right up front that they can't so you can obtain it. A lot has to do with availability from their suppliers, as well, I'd reckon. My operating procedure is that if it's something I really want and don't see, I'll ask. But, there have also been times when the stuff they have ready to ship is precisely what I need, even though I thought I wanted something else. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.." -- Cyril, "Breaking Away" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11
And it looks like http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/groups/ socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/ 72157627749072438/">Joe is volunteering to do just that! So who is planning on going? No limit on numbers of course, but you'll need to get in contact w/ Joe for directions. Again, this isn't crazy epic, but a ride along Pacific Ocean, then doing some climbing up into the coastal foothills. Probably 1/2 dirt, but on hard-pack trails. Marathons would be the perfect all around tire for it. If there's consensus, we can ride some singletrack back down at the end. On Sep 25, 11:35 am, dougP wrote: > Joe: > > We could change the route to swing by your house. :-) > > dougP > > On Sep 25, 10:33 am, Joe Bartoe wrote: > > > > > > > > > I wish this was closer to me so I could make it. > > > Joe > > > Joe Bartoe > > > Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. > > email: j...@synapticcycles.com > > website:www.synapticcycles.com > > Twitter: @synapticcycles > > > phone: 949-374-6079 > > > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:33:56 -0700 > > Subject: [RBW] SoCal October Ride -SanClemente10/15/11 > > From: cyclotour...@gmail.com > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > If you're in the neighborhood, a ride inSanClementeis taking shape. > > Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules > > need it. Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...) > > here: > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... > > > Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested. Lots of > > food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about. > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > probably benefit more from > > improving their taste than from improving > > their performance. - RTMS > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem length question - WTB shorter replacement - how short???
I have the same issues with a too long 12cm "tallux" stem. I've raised it as high as I can and it's still feels wrong. I'm going to just switch it out for a 9cm and go thru the different heights. I really don't thing you can solve this "feel" w/mathmatics. I've tried scale drawings... Good luck. On Oct 1, 9:29 am, Jay wrote: > I have a Sam Hillborne with a 10 cm stem Technomic and Noodle bars 5 > cm above saddle height. > > This feels too short. I can reach all the various positions with my > arms almost totally straight, but not locked. > > Also, I would like to try lowering the bars a few cms. Dusting off my > high school trig - lowering the stem 3.25 cm puts the bars 1 cm > farther away. change in stem height. With my current stem this is too > far. > > So - > 1. Do I want 8 cm or 9? > 2. Does anyone have one they want to get rid off? > 3. Does anyone want to buy the 10 cm, with 500 miles and a few > scratches on it? > > Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] This just in! New Rivendell cycling outfits!
http://www.golfknickers.com/ Amuse your friends and annoy your enemies! Pink Plus Fours with clashing orange and purple argyle and green polo! Not to mention the hat! -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
Here's another vote for "talk to the guys at Rivendell". There is zero pressure, and they ask a lot of questions about you & your riding, etc., in order to get you onto the best bike for you. This also makes you really think about what you want and what you're going to do with the bike. If anything, Rivendell staff errs on the side of caution in giving advice, and I can understand that. Most of us have wandered into a bike (or other retail) shop with only a vague idea of what we want, and within 5 minutes someone is telling us "this is what you need". It's refreshing to work with people who want to bring clarity to the process. And you get to deal with nice people too. dougP On Oct 6, 10:08 am, Peter M wrote: > Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million > questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel > like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys. The > issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a > Rivendell to give it a test ride let alone a dealer to get to up close > and personal. I know Harris has some models but again that is a bit of > a Trek (4 hours in the car) for me from Brooklyn and since I have been > blissfully car free since 2004 I would have to bum a ride from > somebody which I hate having to do. I just would hate buying something > and then deciding its just not for me but realize I have to pull the > trigger on something. I wish someone had a 52cm Sam for sale so I > could see if it was indeed too small, at 84ish PBH I fall right in > that middle ground of alot of riv bikes but have never had the chance > to actually ride one to see on what side of the divide I fall. I might > just wind up buying the 56cm Sam to see how it fits since it is the > cheapest option and sell it this summer to pick up the Atlantis. > Losing a couple hundred on the Sam will hurt less than losing over 500 > on the Atlantis if I decide to sell. Again if anyone has a 52cm Sam to > sell I would pick that up too, doesnt matter what color/brakes/etc. > > On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, John Bennett wrote: > > > > > Dear Joe, > > > I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here, > > I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in > > person. In fact, sort of the opposite! > > > Cheers, > > > John @ RBW HQ > > > On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd rather > > > get > > > some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting into a direct phone > > > call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes with taking that next step > > > which some of us find a little intimidating. Or maybe it's just me..- > > > Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem length question - WTB shorter replacement - how short???
Jay: this is what you need: http://www.octagoncycles.com/ Goes well with argyle, I believe. Seriously, have you found a solution to your question? FWIW, raising my stem 2 cm made 1.5 cm longer reach bars feel much the same in the hooks and on the hoods as the shorter bars positioned lower. (Grand Bois Maes Parallel copies with 115 mm reach versus Nitto 185s with 90 mm reach; same 8 cm stem raised 2 cm.) On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Jay wrote: > Patrick, > > It is definitely too far at 2 cm above sadle height. I tried it and > put it right back to 5 cm above. > > Looking back at my OP, I should have explained better. > I am trying to decide between a 9 cm stem at the current height and an > 8 cm stem at 2 cm above. > > How can I know (or guess well) which I'd like better without buying 2 > more stems -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: brake cable adjusters
Check Riv's brake hardware section. They've got a barrel adjuster and some hangers. On Oct 5, 4:43 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > I'm adding adjustable brake cable hangers to my Simpleone even though > the BG cantis work excellently. > I just would like to adjust. > The problem is...I don't really know what brake cable adjusters > actually adjust. > Please Advise! > thanks > Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11
I'm in for sure & will take Metrolink down. Be warned: Joe has an adventure bike with fenders, and a Rivendell, but they are not the same bike. Life's full of surprises. dougP On Oct 6, 10:57 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > And it looks like http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/groups/ > socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/ > 72157627749072438/">Joe is volunteering to do just that! So who > is planning on going? No limit on numbers of course, but you'll need > to get in contact w/ Joe for directions. > > Again, this isn't crazy epic, but a ride along Pacific Ocean, then > doing some climbing up into the coastal foothills. Probably 1/2 dirt, > but on hard-pack trails. Marathons would be the perfect all around > tire for it. If there's consensus, we can ride some singletrack back > down at the end. > > On Sep 25, 11:35 am, dougP wrote: > > > > > Joe: > > > We could change the route to swing by your house. :-) > > > dougP > > > On Sep 25, 10:33 am, Joe Bartoe wrote: > > > > I wish this was closer to me so I could make it. > > > > Joe > > > > Joe Bartoe > > > > Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. > > > email: j...@synapticcycles.com > > > website:www.synapticcycles.com > > > Twitter: @synapticcycles > > > > phone: 949-374-6079 > > > > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:33:56 -0700 > > > Subject: [RBW] SoCal October Ride -SanClemente10/15/11 > > > From: cyclotour...@gmail.com > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > If you're in the neighborhood, a ride inSanClementeis taking shape. > > > Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules > > > need it. Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...) > > > here: > > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... > > > > Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested. Lots > > > of food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about. > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA > > > > ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > > probably benefit more from > > > improving their taste than from improving > > > their performance. - RTMS > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted > > > text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
+1. I've worked with 3 different guys on 4 different bike builds at Riv, and they were all stellar and absolutely pressure-free. And all 4 bikes were perfect captures of what I was looking for. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dougP Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide Here's another vote for "talk to the guys at Rivendell". There is zero pressure, and they ask a lot of questions about you & your riding, etc., in order to get you onto the best bike for you. This also makes you really think about what you want and what you're going to do with the bike. If anything, Rivendell staff errs on the side of caution in giving advice, and I can understand that. Most of us have wandered into a bike (or other retail) shop with only a vague idea of what we want, and within 5 minutes someone is telling us "this is what you need". It's refreshing to work with people who want to bring clarity to the process. And you get to deal with nice people too. dougP On Oct 6, 10:08 am, Peter M wrote: > Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million > questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel > like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys. The > issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a > Rivendell to give it a test ride let alone a dealer to get to up close > and personal. I know Harris has some models but again that is a bit of > a Trek (4 hours in the car) for me from Brooklyn and since I have been > blissfully car free since 2004 I would have to bum a ride from > somebody which I hate having to do. I just would hate buying something > and then deciding its just not for me but realize I have to pull the > trigger on something. I wish someone had a 52cm Sam for sale so I > could see if it was indeed too small, at 84ish PBH I fall right in > that middle ground of alot of riv bikes but have never had the chance > to actually ride one to see on what side of the divide I fall. I might > just wind up buying the 56cm Sam to see how it fits since it is the > cheapest option and sell it this summer to pick up the Atlantis. > Losing a couple hundred on the Sam will hurt less than losing over 500 > on the Atlantis if I decide to sell. Again if anyone has a 52cm Sam to > sell I would pick that up too, doesnt matter what color/brakes/etc. > > On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, John Bennett wrote: > > > > > Dear Joe, > > > I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years > > here, I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or > > in person. In fact, sort of the opposite! > > > Cheers, > > > John @ RBW HQ > > > On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd > > > rather get some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting > > > into a direct phone call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes > > > with taking that next step which some of us find a little > > > intimidating. Or maybe it's just me..- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional quali
[RBW] Samuel P Taylor & Wet and wild Point Reyes Mini Trip. Ride Report and Photos
Hi Y'all, It was my Uncles 50th Birthday on Saturday so I took the opportunity to make a mini trip out of it and headed out on Saturday morning and caught the first Bart train to Embarcadero to start my Journey. The ride to Fairfax was beautiful and I arrived a bit early so I decided to ride out to Samuel P Taylor and doubled back to Fairfax for the Party. Woke up a bit hung over and headed back to Samuel P Taylor for some relaxation and to wait for a buddy to drive and meet me for the night. The weather was amazing and clear for the night, but Monday would be a different story. Started riding to the Point Reyes Ranger Station to check in for my campsite for the night and proceeded to Point Reyes Station for munchies at Bovine Bakery and to wait for the Rain to subside so I could push to camp. After eating to many Pastries and a few pieces of there amazing Pizza, I pressed on to Sky Camp. I decided to Hike up 3 1/2 miles up Horse Trail to Sky Camp and it was amazing even though I was getting rained on Hard all the way up. Half way up and being soaked head to toe, I was second guessing my decision to camp for the night. But I pressed on. Set up camp and decided to wait out the storm. I was in my tent from 8:00 Pm to 7:00 Am waiting out the storm, but the views in the morning of the fog rolling in was definitely worth the cold and wetness. It was absolutely beautiful. I was supposed to stay another night at Hawk Camp but that was put on hold since everything I had was soaked to the bone and I had to ride back in my flip flops, since my Sambas were filled with water in the morning. I will save that trip for when the weather is better. The medium saddle sack and my Barsack kept everything dry, with a little help from some Garbage Bags and Ponchos. A great trip, meet allot of fellow bikers along the way and will definitely do it again. Here are a few Pictures of the trip. http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/sets/72157627832794810/ Cheers! Dustin G Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/29hMt8W0ij8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] RBW and Apple
Once upon a time, I thought I saw a poll that was looking at Rivendell bike owners and Apple products, but I can't find it now. Anyone remember such? I was an old Apple ][ user, then when the IIGS dropped, I switched to PC's, and my work field is PC-based. However, iPods, iPhones, have brought me back around. Still don't own a Mac, but I'm no longer anti-Mac the way I was a decade or so ago. I was more a fan of Woz, but, I have to admit, Jobs has really had an influence on society. RIP, Steve... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/w7LpxGcNr6UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11
If you are coming to the ride and driving, we can meet at my home: 34662 Calle Rosita, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 After getting ready, we'll head down to the coffee place near the train station to meet those coming in from that direction. If people would like, we can roll down a bit early to get some coffee and pastries prior to the ride. Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:57:25 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11 > From: cyclotour...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > And it looks like http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/groups/ > socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/ > 72157627749072438/">Joe is volunteering to do just that! So who > is planning on going? No limit on numbers of course, but you'll need > to get in contact w/ Joe for directions. > > Again, this isn't crazy epic, but a ride along Pacific Ocean, then > doing some climbing up into the coastal foothills. Probably 1/2 dirt, > but on hard-pack trails. Marathons would be the perfect all around > tire for it. If there's consensus, we can ride some singletrack back > down at the end. > > > > On Sep 25, 11:35 am, dougP wrote: > > Joe: > > > > We could change the route to swing by your house. :-) > > > > dougP > > > > On Sep 25, 10:33 am, Joe Bartoe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish this was closer to me so I could make it. > > > > > Joe > > > > > Joe Bartoe > > > > > Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. > > > email: j...@synapticcycles.com > > > website:www.synapticcycles.com > > > Twitter: @synapticcycles > > > > > phone: 949-374-6079 > > > > > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:33:56 -0700 > > > Subject: [RBW] SoCal October Ride -SanClemente10/15/11 > > > From: cyclotour...@gmail.com > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > > If you're in the neighborhood, a ride inSanClementeis taking shape. > > > Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules > > > need it. Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...) > > > here: > > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... > > > > > Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested. Lots > > > of food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about. > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA > > > > > ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > > probably benefit more from > > > improving their taste than from improving > > > their performance. - RTMS > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
Boy do I wish I hadn't said THAT. Yes, I meant "internal pressure", and I'm probably projecting my own Aspergers-related struggles with phone calls. I shouldn't have mentioned it. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aFkjKBHbC9IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
On Oct 5, 1:41 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > How about the manufacturer of any of the Grand Bois non-tire parts? - Grand Bois tires are made by Panaracer in Japan. Their stems, handlebars and racks come from Nitto, also in Japan. - Grand Bois rims and cassette hubs are made in Taiwan. - Compass Bicycles' new cranks also will be made in Taiwan. Both countries have excellent labor standards. There are two reasons bike parts are made in foreign countries: Expertise and cost. Forging a bicycle crank requires specialized tooling to broach the square taper. I don't know of any North American forging house that has this tooling. Even TA has their cranks forged in Taiwan. Cost is a different issue. In the mainstream market, every penny counts, and labor-intensive production is moved to whomever offers the lowest bid. In Taiwan, this often means sub-sub-contracting to China. When our engineer visited all prospective companies in Taiwan who wanted to make our cranks, he found that many were little more than an office, who then would sub-contract the job to mainland China. Of course, the label still would say "Made in Taiwan." This type of outsourcing to the cheapest bidder not only has implications for labor standards, but also quality. It is not uncommon to substitute a cheaper alloy. As a result, you find chainrings that are labeled as 7075 aluminum, but wear so quickly that there is little doubt that they are 6000-series. That way, the company could underbid all the other companies who had to factor in the higher cost of the raw material... and they got the bid. When you work with reputable companies, you don't have to worry too much about these issues, but of course, the higher quality comes at a higher cost. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
If you really want to go, and have the time, you can make your trip to Harris Cyclery car-free. Take Amtrak from NYC to Boston' s South Station. You can take the Acela or the Northeast Regional train. Then take the commuter rail (Worcester line) from South Station to West Newton station. Harris Cyclery is less than a block away from the station. For maps and schedules, see www.mbta.com. -- Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OrlJJ2v9tkwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket
Steve: Hope I was the first responder. PayPal ok? Tom -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of notesman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Crankset and bottom bracket Folks, Before I list them on e-bay I have a Velo Orange Gran Cru 50.4 BCD crankset for sale. This is a high quality copy of the well known TA cyclotourist crankset that sells new, when available, for $200. This one has less than 100 miles on it and is in virtually new condition. (Bolt caps haven't been installed and I have box and packing.) This is set up as a 46/30 double. I'm looking for $175 shipped anywhere in the US except Alaska or Hawaii. I also have a Velo Orange 122mm bottom bracket for use with the above for an additional $20. Thanks for looking. steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem length question - WTB shorter replacement - how short???
*How can I know (or guess well) which I'd like better without buying 2 more stems? * ** Unfortunately, the answer is: You can't. The trick is either take a guess on one; or buy both, then sell one. The first option means you may not have to sell if it works. The second..you get to try both, then decide. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. * * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7wIPqiuPG-4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW and Apple
You may be thinking of the poll by Jim, of this list. Scroll about 1/4 of the way down on this page: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/ On Oct 6, 11:54 am, Leslie wrote: > Once upon a time, I thought I saw a poll that was looking at Rivendell bike > owners and Apple products, but I can't find it now. > > Anyone remember such? > > I was an old Apple ][ user, then when the IIGS dropped, I switched to PC's, > and my work field is PC-based. However, iPods, iPhones, have brought me > back around. Still don't own a Mac, but I'm no longer anti-Mac the way I > was a decade or so ago. I was more a fan of Woz, but, I have to admit, > Jobs has really had an influence on society. > > RIP, Steve... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW and Apple
That was it; I thought it was on FB but hadn't found it there; but as it was there/ here, that's why Thx... -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GCki5D-8GlkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW and Apple
On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Leslie wrote: > Once upon a time, I thought I saw a poll that was looking at Rivendell bike > owners and Apple products, but I can't find it now. > > Anyone remember such? > > I was an old Apple ][ user, then when the IIGS dropped, I switched to PC's, > and my work field is PC-based. However, iPods, iPhones, have brought me back > around. Still don't own a Mac, but I'm no longer anti-Mac the way I was a > decade or so ago. I was more a fan of Woz, but, I have to admit, Jobs has > really had an influence on society. > > RIP, Steve... Jobs's famous Stanford University commencement address. Possibly the best 15 minutes you will ever spend watching YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc&feature=share -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Brooks website
New Knothole post on Brooks, too... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mocv-CaFv7MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:16 PM, franklyn wrote: > In many ways, workers in Taiwan have better conditions than those in > the U.S., Taiwan has one of the best universal healthcare system in > the world (according to NYTimes columnist and Nobel laureate Paul > Krugman), and public transportation systems that are pretty unmatched > (extensive and inexpensive subway systems in two cities and high-speed > rail system that run up and down the island). I don't think you need > to feel bad if parts are made in Taiwan, they probably live better > than we do here. > I agree with this. I know that, as Jan Said, some places are labeling as Taiwan when they are outsourcing elsewhere. This is why I said some places in Taiwan. and this is also why I ask about where things are actually made, rather than taking it as it is sometimes assumed. My major concern is that I'm getting products from places where they do not undervalue the importance of their workforce. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM, dpco wrote: > How about Nitto? They manufacture their products in Japan. There's a Youtube > on Nitto. Indeed and I'm a big fan of their goods. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > On Oct 5, 1:41 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > >> How about the manufacturer of any of the Grand Bois non-tire parts? > > - Grand Bois tires are made by Panaracer in Japan. Their stems, > handlebars and racks come from Nitto, also in Japan. > - Grand Bois rims and cassette hubs are made in Taiwan. > - Compass Bicycles' new cranks also will be made in Taiwan. > > Both countries have excellent labor standards. > > There are two reasons bike parts are made in foreign countries: > Expertise and cost. Forging a bicycle crank requires specialized > tooling to broach the square taper. I don't know of any North American > forging house that has this tooling. Even TA has their cranks forged > in Taiwan. > > Cost is a different issue. In the mainstream market, every penny > counts, and labor-intensive production is moved to whomever offers the > lowest bid. In Taiwan, this often means sub-sub-contracting to China. > When our engineer visited all prospective companies in Taiwan who > wanted to make our cranks, he found that many were little more than an > office, who then would sub-contract the job to mainland China. Of > course, the label still would say "Made in Taiwan." > > This type of outsourcing to the cheapest bidder not only has > implications for labor standards, but also quality. It is not uncommon > to substitute a cheaper alloy. As a result, you find chainrings that > are labeled as 7075 aluminum, but wear so quickly that there is little > doubt that they are 6000-series. That way, the company could underbid > all the other companies who had to factor in the higher cost of the > raw material... and they got the bid. > > When you work with reputable companies, you don't have to worry too > much about these issues, but of course, the higher quality comes at a > higher cost. Jan, thanks for the response. This is exactly why I asked. I take it you are confident that your manufacturers are playing fair on their outsourcing. I agree higher quality comes at a higher cost and I expect that. But I've also found you can get expensive goods which are, in fact, quite cheap. -sv ps: speaking of parts from reputable makers: any word on when the compass cranks are going to be available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
I think that cost is the most sole driver to place of manufacture. There are many competent Broach houses in the US who could certainly do square taper cranks. I work with them on a regular basis making parts for Rocket Engines. And they would be willing to make the appropriate tooling if the business case were there. But based on US labor rates those Companies could never compete with the shops in Taiwan. We would be paying $1000 for a crankset. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YWZ7Z-HzLdkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: parts made in places where worker conditions are fairly reasonable
I think that cost is the sole driver to place of manufacture. There are many competent Broach houses in the US who could certainly do square taper cranks. I work with them on a regular basis making parts for Rocket Engines. And they would be willing to make the appropriate tooling if the business case were there. But based on US labor rates those Companies could never compete with the shops in Taiwan. We would be paying $1000 for a crankset. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C-MJitOGWpgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] B-17 vs Flyer
Anyone out there used both? The recent blug entry suggests that there's less rail room for pushing the Flyer back than there is on the B-17. Can someone characterize the difference? 5mm? Over 1cm? An inch? I love my B-17 but am "Flyer-curious", shall we say, after having ridden a little on a friend's B-67 recently. I liked those springs. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uM48owLBv7AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] B-17 vs Flyer
Well if I ever get out of Denver and back home I'll measure for you. Just put one on my Bombadil and didn't notice a difference. At 225lbs it can feel bouncy at times. Then again I've only got 100 miles on it.. I will know more after 50 ish mile ride Saturday. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Qu3VYq2qmoQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer
This is a fuzzy memory from 5 years ago, but I would estimate the difference is about a centimeter. Grant is right about the springs: At 160lbs. back then (oh, glory days), the only difference between the two saddles was looks and weight. Those springs didn't even buzz for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/n7BzbwE2Hd0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer
I found the leather on two different Flyer saddles to stretch and lose tension really quickly. And the springs were always annoyingly squeaky. Don't know about the rail lenghts. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > This is a fuzzy memory from 5 years ago, but I would estimate the > difference is about a centimeter. Grant is right about the springs: At > 160lbs. back then (oh, glory days), the only difference between the two > saddles was looks and weight. Those springs didn't even buzz for me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/n7BzbwE2Hd0J. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
