Re: [RBW] Re: Swift Industries Panniers
Thanks, Harry, and all who have responded -- I pulled the trigger on a pair of the Swift Mini Stack Panniers last night in waxed canvas. Looking forward to using them. What I like about them vs. the V-Brand set sold by RBW (Riv-content for the thread) is that they are not joined together as one unit. I can use one or both, depending on the load. I also like the Swift use of an interior "neck" with two draw cords (similar in design to the Acorn bags). That will keep the contents dry AND/or dust free when over stuffed. I also really like the accessible exterior pocket on the side and in the lid. The bag is just the right size for my typical commuter loads. Lastly, the company is cottage sized, the bags MUSA all the way, and other list members like them. All good enough for me! Oh, and I also dropped an order yesterday to RBW for a couple of more V-Brand bags (I really like the V-Brand stuff a lot) and another pair of MUSA pants (also among my fav's). Life is good on two wheels. Oh, and GO GIANTS!!! From: Harry H To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:51:48 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Swift Industries Panniers I've got a pair of the Short Stack Panniers in waxed canvas which are very similar to the pics on their site and I love 'em. They were very easy to work with; I never did speak to them in person, but my order was spot on and arrived ahead of schedule. I've been using them on the Atlantis extensively. If you swing by the shop you're welcome to check them out. Harry On Oct 19, 10:14 am, Ray wrote: > It was a recent post by another list member that coaxed me over to > Swift Industries where I found the Mini- panniers in waxed canvas. I > really like the style and the versatile design. Does anyone else on > this list have any first-hand experience or knowledge about these > products, particularly the waxed canvas models? Any other comments > also appreciated. Here's the link: > > http://swiftindustries.wordpress.com/choose-your-colors/new-mini-pann... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide part two
I wore out the pivot assembly on an XTR M95x. The upper pully was grinding on the cassette no matter what I did. $25 and 20 minutes later, the new pivot spring brought it back to life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Classic Betty Foy
The fenders have been a little bit of a thorn in our side; we are waiting for the VO 650b 52mm Zepplins – the Berthouds are also out of stock. The kickstand is probably our favorite: the adjustable Pletscher single leg. Thanks for the complements, Bryan On Oct 20, 4:55 pm, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles" wrote: > We're excited about the latest shipment of Betty Foys form Rivendell. > It was a long time coming, but well worth the wait. > > Ann's is the latest custom > build-up:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ > > The Hetre tires really are a dream to ride, and I was surprised (being > a fan of friction shifting) how much I liked the Dura-Ace indexed 10- > speed shifters. > > She'll add fenders and a rear rack at a later date. > > Just let me know if you want any specifics on the build. > Thanks as always for letting us share, > > Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide part two
After reading this again I realize I am coming off as a shill for Nashbar, sorry not my intent. I'd rather buy from RWB and I am glad they are including a "econo" derailleur option. On Oct 20, 9:09 pm, RoadieRyan wrote: > Grant appears to be using their Mountain RD which is 8/9, which > Nashbar stocks too. Nashbar also sells a Microshift 10 speed road > group with an RD per their site > > "The Nashbar 10 speed short cage rear derailleur has a total teeth > capacity of 29T and a max rear sprocket size of 27T. 2:1 pull ratio is > compatible with Shimano 10 speed components" > > Since friction doesn't really care a 10 speed RD would work fine if > you didn't mind being restricted to 27 or 28 teeth on your Cassette/ > FW. At $35, or $28 after their 20% off coupon, not a bad deal. > > I am mostly excited about the prospect of A) another option for bar > end shifters and B) that it is possible to use a right (front) shifter > on the Left (rear) in friction mode! never thought of that but its > good to know. > > Ryan > > On Oct 20, 2:52 pm, cm wrote: > > > I see this as a reaction against the big players (Shim, Camp, and > > Sram). I believe there was a posting on the site that said it wouldnt > > be too long before everything was 10 speed and 10 speed doesnt play > > well with others. I think going to a smaller company who is looking to > > be a player and working with them BEFORE we are all trolling 'bay like > > addicts for 5- 9 speed components is very smart. Hopefully this will > > create a nice market for market for Microshift who will invest in > > their products. Seems like this approach has worked well with > > components-- brakes come to mind. > > > Cheers! > > cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tire clearance question: 44mm tires in 50mm stay?
Would you put a tire that measures up at 44-46mm in a 50mm (2") chainstay? This leaves approx. 3mm clearance a side. Is this too close? My bike mechanic thinks so. I'm thinking of putting Big Apples on my old MB-6 and the Apples measure up at 44mm according to the Riv site. Would love to try the fat, cushy tires somehow. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire clearance question: 44mm tires in 50mm stay?
The 44.45mm that Riv shows is for that specific rim. Also, we don't know the if that measurement is new, or a well broken in tire, as they they do get wider as opposed to brand new. 3mm each side is really close. I've seen some do it of course. Make sure you have really well built wheels that stay true and don't break spokes! Too bad there isn't much between 50's and 42'sin tries. I'm using some Kenda Kwick Roller EZ 700x45 tires that measure 43mm on A719 rim, and they are fantastic. Nashbar sold them, but I think they are out of the 45's. Someone may have some though. They are as good as a Marathon Supreme, at fraction of the cost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
Currently you can get 8 speed chains and cassettes pretty cheap through a couple of sources. I think I'll stock up. But first, a bike ride on this beautiful fall day, the last before the rain begins. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire clearance question: 44mm tires in 50mm stay?
Here's a photo of clearance on my Quickbeam with Big Apple 50's. http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/3447717271/ Tight but really smooth ride. When I stood up to climb a hill, there was a little rub but otherwise fine. It wouldn't fit fenders with these so I eventually replaced the BA's with Marathon 40's. On Oct 21, 7:22 am, Jeffrey wrote: > Would you put a tire that measures up at 44-46mm in a 50mm (2") > chainstay? This leaves approx. 3mm clearance a side. Is this too > close? My bike mechanic thinks so. I'm thinking of putting Big Apples > on my old MB-6 and the Apples measure up at 44mm according to the Riv > site. Would love to try the fat, cushy tires somehow. > > Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire clearance question: 44mm tires in 50mm stay?
I run my bike w/ about 1mm clearance with no ill effects to date. http://www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/photos/cyclotourist/1679480108/in/set-72157602592825848/ On Oct 21, 8:59 am, "Jim M." wrote: > Here's a photo of clearance on my Quickbeam with Big Apple 50's. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/3447717271/ > > Tight but really smooth ride. When I stood up to climb a hill, there > was a little rub but otherwise fine. It wouldn't fit fenders with > these so I eventually replaced the BA's with Marathon 40's. > > On Oct 21, 7:22 am, Jeffrey wrote: > > > Would you put a tire that measures up at 44-46mm in a 50mm (2") > > chainstay? This leaves approx. 3mm clearance a side. Is this too > > close? My bike mechanic thinks so. I'm thinking of putting Big Apples > > on my old MB-6 and the Apples measure up at 44mm according to the Riv > > site. Would love to try the fat, cushy tires somehow. > > > Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bomb(s)
Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
I was pleasantly surprised that my LBS sells 8 speed SRAM chains for pretty much the same as mail order prices. Yeah, I should get a couple more... Thinking about converting my 8 speed to 9 as I like the cassette options w/ 34T cogs that it offers. 9 speed seems to be pretty proved and I do use index shifting. Decisions, decisions... On Oct 21, 8:30 am, Mike wrote: > Currently you can get 8 speed chains and cassettes pretty cheap > through a couple of sources. I think I'll stock up. But first, a bike > ride on this beautiful fall day, the last before the rain begins. > > --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bomb(s)
on 10/21/10 9:45 AM, Abcyclehank at hankinso...@me.com wrote: > Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that > runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or > leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon. I mirrored the pdf here - http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil As far as availability - as always, best to go to the source. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Here's a poor shot of a new one built up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. jim m On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: > Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that > runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or > leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:07 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > I was pleasantly surprised that my LBS sells 8 speed SRAM chains for > pretty much the same as mail order prices. > > Yeah, I should get a couple more... > > Thinking about converting my 8 speed to 9 as I like the cassette > options w/ 34T cogs that it offers. 9 speed seems to be pretty proved > and I do use index shifting. Decisions, decisions... > Stupid question time. Is there any effective difference between a shimano hg40, 50 or 70 cassette? Ditto vis-a-vis the sram vs shimano? or the chains, for that matter. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Classic Betty Foy
Do you have it in stock? René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:12 AM, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles" wrote: > The fenders have been a little bit of a thorn in our side; we are > waiting for the VO 650b 52mm Zepplins – the Berthouds are also out of > stock. > > The kickstand is probably our favorite: the adjustable Pletscher > single leg. > > Thanks for the complements, > > Bryan > > On Oct 20, 4:55 pm, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles" > wrote: >> We're excited about the latest shipment of Betty Foys form Rivendell. >> It was a long time coming, but well worth the wait. >> >> Ann's is the latest custom >> build-up:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ >> >> The Hetre tires really are a dream to ride, and I was surprised (being >> a fan of friction shifting) how much I liked the Dura-Ace indexed 10- >> speed shifters. >> >> She'll add fenders and a rear rack at a later date. >> >> Just let me know if you want any specifics on the build. >> Thanks as always for letting us share, >> >> Bryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
(Disclaimer of personal bias): I am a very satisfied owner of a twin- TT Bombadil. I've had time to let this settle in my brain, as well as a chance to actually see it in person. In fact, this is the same color as my Bombadil, and component-wise it's close, so it offers a very fair visual comparison. (Other disclaimer: I did NOT ride this, so I cannot speak to the quality of the ride). From a purely visual perspective I'm sorry to say it just doesn't work for me... at all. And in my humble (if not outspoken) opinion this design to a large degree robs the bike of its aesthetic appeal... (I realize this may sound offensive, but I feel the need to be brutally honest, especially since I am so passionate about Rivendell bikes). In fact, I implore the creative minds at Riv to please go BACK to the old design. I marvel (daily) at the sheer beauty of my Bombadil. Others marvel at it. With this change the Bombadil has lost its dazzle, I'm afraid. Apologies to the creative minds at Riv and to those who see beauty and dazzle in this (very bold and brave) design; I certainly mean no disrespect, and I trust you welcome a variety of opinion. Thx, BB On Oct 21, 1:11 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > Here's a poor shot of a new one built > up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ > > Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do > best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. > > jim m > > On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: > > > > > Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that > > runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or > > leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 13:36 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > Is there any effective difference between a shimano hg40, 50 or 70 cassette? The HG50 are black, the HG70 silver. That's a big (cosmetic) difference right there, and it matters a lot to some people. Functionally, I'm not so sure. Personally, I've stockpiled several of the discontinued HG70 7 speed 13-30 cassettes... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:07 -0700, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > I was pleasantly surprised that my LBS sells 8 speed SRAM chains for > pretty much the same as mail order prices. > > Yeah, I should get a couple more... > > Thinking about converting my 8 speed to 9 as I like the cassette > options w/ 34T cogs that it offers. 9 speed seems to be pretty proved > and I do use index shifting. Decisions, decisions.. That's one of the easiest upgrade decisions you'll ever make. Nothing to it besides replacing shifters, cassette and chain. Just do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
There's no right answer to any aesthetic question, I suppose, but as the owner of a twin-TT Bombadil myself which is in the rebuild process, I'm thinking seriously of suspending that process and selling my frame in favor of the new design, which I LOVE. I assume that the design has been tweaked because Grant believes it will better serve the Bomba's expected purposes, and that may be an advantage of the new design as well. But I'm just talking about how the new frame looks -- to my eye, a cross between an old Rene Herse camping bike and the Bike of the Apocalypse. Very cool. But, different strokes, right? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:12 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s) (Disclaimer of personal bias): I am a very satisfied owner of a twin- TT Bombadil. I've had time to let this settle in my brain, as well as a chance to actually see it in person. In fact, this is the same color as my Bombadil, and component-wise it's close, so it offers a very fair visual comparison. (Other disclaimer: I did NOT ride this, so I cannot speak to the quality of the ride). From a purely visual perspective I'm sorry to say it just doesn't work for me... at all. And in my humble (if not outspoken) opinion this design to a large degree robs the bike of its aesthetic appeal... (I realize this may sound offensive, but I feel the need to be brutally honest, especially since I am so passionate about Rivendell bikes). In fact, I implore the creative minds at Riv to please go BACK to the old design. I marvel (daily) at the sheer beauty of my Bombadil. Others marvel at it. With this change the Bombadil has lost its dazzle, I'm afraid. Apologies to the creative minds at Riv and to those who see beauty and dazzle in this (very bold and brave) design; I certainly mean no disrespect, and I trust you welcome a variety of opinion. Thx, BB On Oct 21, 1:11 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > Here's a poor shot of a new one built > up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ > > Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do > best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. > > jim m > > On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: > > > > > Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube > > that runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for > > one or leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
No need to apologize Bobby.. you're just being honest. I prefer the Bombadil the way it is too. I didn't buy it for it's looks. I'm surely in the minority here in not caring about all the pretty stuff on Riv bikes. The ride is what matters to me. The water bottle setup with the diagonal tube will be odd to me. The frame doesn't need to be any stiffer. It adds more unnecessary weight to and already perfect frame. The frame can be as super heavy duty as you want .. but the limiting factor on the road will always be the wheels. Are we to use 48 spoke wheels to compliment the stout-er frame? Lol:) It's just seems like they've chosen their idea of aesthetics over real world function to me. It's not the end of the world or anything ..but hey, it's their frames, and they can do anything they want. We either buy them or we don't. I'd like another Bombadil. one for the road, and one dedicated off road. I'll take the new paint scheme with the current frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Oct 21, 12:16 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:07 -0700, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Thinking about converting my 8 speed to 9 as I like the cassette > > options w/ 34T cogs that it offers. 9 speed seems to be pretty proved > > and I do use index shifting. Decisions, decisions.. > > That's one of the easiest upgrade decisions you'll ever make. Nothing > to it besides replacing shifters, cassette and chain. Just do it. Downside is I have some real nice XTR Ti cassettes in 8spd on different wheelsets. Maybe when I grind 'em down to nubs some day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Amen... And again, my opinion is... well, my opinion. Peace, BB On Oct 21, 3:35 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J" wrote: > There's no right answer to any aesthetic question, I suppose, but as the > owner of a twin-TT Bombadil myself which is in the rebuild process, I'm > thinking seriously of suspending that process and selling my frame in favor > of the new design, which I LOVE. I assume that the design has been tweaked > because Grant believes it will better serve the Bomba's expected purposes, > and that may be an advantage of the new design as well. But I'm just talking > about how the new frame looks -- to my eye, a cross between an old Rene Herse > camping bike and the Bike of the Apocalypse. Very cool. > > But, different strokes, right? > > > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:12 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s) > > (Disclaimer of personal bias): I am a very satisfied owner of a twin- TT > Bombadil. > I've had time to let this settle in my brain, as well as a chance to actually > see it in person. In fact, this is the same color as my Bombadil, and > component-wise it's close, so it offers a very fair visual comparison. (Other > disclaimer: I did NOT ride this, so I cannot speak to the quality of the > ride). From a purely visual perspective I'm sorry to say it just doesn't work > for me... at all. And in my humble (if not outspoken) opinion this design to > a large degree robs the bike of its aesthetic appeal... (I realize this may > sound offensive, but I feel the need to be brutally honest, especially since > I am so passionate about Rivendell bikes). In fact, I implore the creative > minds at Riv to please go BACK to the old design. > I marvel (daily) at the sheer beauty of my Bombadil. Others marvel at it. > With this change the Bombadil has lost its dazzle, I'm afraid. > Apologies to the creative minds at Riv and to those who see beauty and dazzle > in this (very bold and brave) design; I certainly mean no disrespect, and I > trust you welcome a variety of opinion. Thx, BB > > On Oct 21, 1:11 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > > Here's a poor shot of a new one built > > up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ > > > Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do > > best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. > > > jim m > > > On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: > > > > Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube > > > that runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for > > > one or leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > ------ > > > To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained > in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal > Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) > promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters > addressed herein. > > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > ======- > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from t
Re: [RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 12:46 -0700, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Oct 21, 12:16 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:07 -0700, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Thinking about converting my 8 speed to 9 as I like the cassette > > > options w/ 34T cogs that it offers. 9 speed seems to be pretty proved > > > and I do use index shifting. Decisions, decisions.. > > > > That's one of the easiest upgrade decisions you'll ever make. Nothing > > to it besides replacing shifters, cassette and chain. Just do it. > > Downside is I have some real nice XTR Ti cassettes in 8spd on > different wheelsets. > Maybe when I grind 'em down to nubs some day... The obvious time for an upgrade is when you need to replace the chain and cassette anyway. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
Steve, your assertion (sadly accurate as it may be) that "everybody's moving to 10 speed or higher" only strengthens my resolve to never give in to this madness, and not only will they be prying my dead fingers off my 7-speed freewheel when they bury me, I'd like my tombstone to read "MY 10-speed is a 2x5"... I have to laugh at myself, because my 29er mountain bike has a carbon 9-speed derailleur, hydraulic brakes and tubeless rims (although it IS steel with a steel fork, thank you), so therefore I don't qualify as a true "luddite"... But when it comes to derailleured drivetrains, the move to 10-speed and beyond will only create weaker components and lessen index shifting tolerances. This is simply moving us in the wrong direction... It's NOT going to make the riding experience better... I'm all for gearing choices, but not at the expense of making a weaker drivetrain. Gee, I was in such a good mood... the mere mention of 10 speed cassettes always brings me down... I need a good ride on my thick-chained 5 speed... On Oct 19, 3:29 pm, doug peterson wrote: > Beth: > > Thank you for sharing your info from within the bike biz. It has the > cold ring of reality. Since my now 7+ year old Atlantis is my only 8 > speed bike, and everything else around here is 7, I'm stocking up on > chains. I've been collecting 7 & 8 speed cassettes off the close out > table for quite a while but a few more won't hurt. > > dougP > > On Oct 19, 12:04 pm, Beth H wrote: > > > > > Here's a little more reality for you: > > > I spoke with a very knowledgable wholsale rep yesterday who told me > > that we should expect to see all things 8-speed fade away in perhaps > > two to three years. This is because of Mountain 10 drivetrains (10 x 2 > > or 10 x 3), which use basically the same components that road 10-speed > > systems do and are therefore easier to mass-produce for big companies > > like SRAM and Shimano. He had spoken with folks at both Shimano and > > SRAM during the Interbike show and apparently they hinted at this > > reality coming down the line. Said rep was told that continued support > > for 8-speed drivetrains was not as profitable because it required > > companies to produce two different kinds of chaincs and cassette cogs. > > Basing both road and mountain drivetrains on a 10-speed system, with > > its narrower chains and thinner cassette cogs, would simplify > > production quicky. (It would also mean more sales, since these parts > > wear out sooner; though the SRAM technician refused to comment on that > > and guy from Shimano would only hint at it in the vaguest language.) > > > Based on discussions I had two years ago when Shimano stopped making 5- > > speed freewheels and the only remaining choices were Sunrace (ick) and > > IRD (decent, but expensive), I would say that this estimate bears more > > than a shred of truth. > > > If you like 8-speed, this would be a good time to look for sales. > > Don't forget that you'll want to stock up on 8-speed compatible > > chains, too, since these will eventually fade like cassettes (though > > not quite as quickly). > > > As for me, I've got a sizable stash of refurbished five- and six-speed > > freewheels that will fit on my Phil hubs... > > Beth "I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic" Hamon- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:46 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Downside is I have some real nice XTR Ti cassettes in 8spd on > different wheelsets. > Maybe when I grind 'em down to nubs some day... > Well. Let me help you out. Go ahead and send those out-dated XTR 8speed ti cassettes to me and I'll do that work for you. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
The industry will say anything to promote their goods. They'll say hey , we gotta cut costs, so we're just going to make 10 speed stuff only. Code for ... we can make more money. They are not hurting making 7, 9 or 9 speed stuff. The hard thing may be getting hubs. The aftermarket will have to step up to offer 8/9 sp. bodies. I'm sure Phil Wood will keep them around. I don't think SRAM or anyone else is going to stop making 8 speed chains anytime remotely soon. I'm still lamenting SRAM for buying Sachs and closing the FW factory. Those FW's are great. I have yet to even come close to wearing one out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
On Oct 21, 2:06 pm, John Speare wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:46 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Downside is I have some real nice XTR Ti cassettes in 8spd on > > different wheelsets. > > Maybe when I grind 'em down to nubs some day... > > Well. Let me help you out. Go ahead and send those out-dated XTR > 8speed ti cassettes to me and I'll do that work for you. > Once again, y'all really come through on this group and know how to help out. How awesome is that! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot Frame sets on Ebay
Someone just got a SMOKIN good deal on a 61cm Atlantis from Aaron's - $1437 final bid... Oh man it was tempting... but I did NOT bid... (thank you Lord...) On Oct 19, 12:43 pm, RoadieRyan wrote: > I believe another member posted about the Atlanises (or is it > Atlanti?) on ebay from a Seattle LBS (Aaron's) earlier this week. I > noticed in going out to ebay that he also has two Bleriot frame sets > on ebay too. There is a 55 and 57 cm frame both starting out at > $500.00 > > Oh how I wish I had the scratch for the 57 but since I don't I figured > I would get the word out to Riv Lovers. > > Ryanhttp://desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=Bleriot&_sacat=382&_odkw=Blerio... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot Frame sets on Ebay
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:01, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Someone just got a SMOKIN good deal on a 61cm Atlantis from Aaron's - > $1437 final bid... Oh man it was tempting... but I did NOT bid... > (thank you Lord...) > Aaron's is my LBS and I've stared at that 61cm Atlantis hanging from the ceiling many times, but just don't think it's the bike for me (still don't -- my Rambouillet is more my speed). I'm sure someone will be SUPER happy with it, and wow, yeah what a great price! I'm really happy for that person! Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot Frame sets on Ebay
Oh...I could have been SUPER happy with it (albeit no-longer- married)... I think I made the right choice... On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Stuart Fletcher wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:01, Montclair BobbyB > > wrote: > > Someone just got a SMOKIN good deal on a 61cm Atlantis from Aaron's - > > $1437 final bid... Oh man it was tempting... but I did NOT bid... > > (thank you Lord...) > > Aaron's is my LBS and I've stared at that 61cm Atlantis hanging from > the ceiling many times, but just don't think it's the bike for me > (still don't -- my Rambouillet is more my speed). > > I'm sure someone will be SUPER happy with it, and wow, yeah what a > great price! I'm really happy for that person! > > Stuart Fletcher > Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
I, on the other hand, never considered a Bombadil until I saw the new diagonal one. I'm considering selling the Atlantis to make room. On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > (Disclaimer of personal bias): I am a very satisfied owner of a twin- > TT Bombadil. > I've had time to let this settle in my brain, as well as a chance to > actually see it in person. In fact, this is the same color as my > Bombadil, and component-wise it's close, so it offers a very fair > visual comparison. (Other disclaimer: I did NOT ride this, so I cannot > speak to the quality of the ride). From a purely visual perspective > I'm sorry to say it just doesn't work for me... at all. And in my > humble (if not outspoken) opinion this design to a large degree robs > the bike of its aesthetic appeal... (I realize this may sound > offensive, but I feel the need to be brutally honest, especially since > I am so passionate about Rivendell bikes). In fact, I implore the > creative minds at Riv to please go BACK to the old design. > I marvel (daily) at the sheer beauty of my Bombadil. Others marvel at > it. With this change the Bombadil has lost its dazzle, I'm afraid. > Apologies to the creative minds at Riv and to those who see beauty and > dazzle in this (very bold and brave) design; I certainly mean no > disrespect, and I trust you welcome a variety of opinion. Thx, BB > > > On Oct 21, 1:11 pm, "Jim M." wrote: >> Here's a poor shot of a new one built >> up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/5098361438/ >> >> Beautiful frame and I believe they have more in stock but you'd do >> best to call. I'll try to take some better pics and post tomorrow. >> >> jim m >> >> On Oct 21, 9:45 am, Abcyclehank wrote: >> >> >> >>> Anyone know any details about the new Bomb with the diagonal tube that >>> runs all the way to the rear stays. Deciding to hold out for one or >>> leap for an Atlantis or Hunq soon.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Gamoh Rack
Got this for my Birthday from my kids and sad to see it go. I sold the bike that this was mounted on when the SimpleOne Prototype came up. Mounted once and never used. It's been sitting in the closet waiting for a good home. The kids understand that I have to let it go. $85 Shipped CONUS. Thanks for looking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
