Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
you're better off with the noise.

Bruce
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)  
> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual  
> filters.
> 
> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
> 
> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner  
> > noises?
> >
> > **
> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
> >
> >
> > robert Doc Wright
> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> > msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Click to call me
> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >
> >
> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times  
> > as much
> > as
> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works  
> > pretty
> > good, but
> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or  
> > buzzes, it
> > could
> > be improved upon.
> > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >
> >
> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
> >
> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
> >
> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
> >> a soundforge
> >> like editing capability.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >>
> >>
> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do  
> >> you
> >> expect, its a steal.
> >>
> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
> >>
> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
> >>> reduction isn't very
> >>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
> >>> like the Diamond
> >>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
> >>> blind person was
> >>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
> >>> some kind of
> >>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
> >>> I am going to
> >>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
> >>> things too, but
> >>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
> >>> thought it could be
> >>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
> >>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot  
> >>> of
> >>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
> >>> Sound
> >>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
> >>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
> >>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
> >>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
> >>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
> >>> I'll save to purchase this.
> >>>
> >>> **
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Curtis Delzer
Amen Bruce, I completely agree, you can even listen to a lot of the efforts 
in noise reduction of the old radio dramas on Sirius or XM radio to know 
they don't know that the bleep they're doing because it is absolutely 
atrocious. I can do a thousand percent better with either SF or GW, no joke, 
and to think they got paid a bunch of bux to make fools of themselves that 
way.

Curtis Delzer
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
you're better off with the noise.

Bruce
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
> filters.
>
> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>
> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
> > noises?
> >
> > **
> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
> >
> >
> > robert Doc Wright
> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> > msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Click to call me
> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >
> >
> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
> > as much
> > as
> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
> > pretty
> > good, but
> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
> > buzzes, it
> > could
> > be improved upon.
> > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >
> >
> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
> >
> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
> >
> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
> >> a soundforge
> >> like editing capability.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >>
> >>
> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
> >> you
> >> expect, its a steal.
> >>
> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
> >>
> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
> >>> reduction isn't very
> >>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
> >>> like the Diamond
> >>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
> >>> blind person was
> >>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
> >>> some kind of
> >>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
> >>> I am going to
> >>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
> >>> things too, but
> >>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
> >>> thought it could be
> >>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
> >>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot
> >>> of
> >>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
> >>> Sound
> >>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
> >>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
> >>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
> >>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
> >>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
> >>> I'll save to purchase this.
> >>>
> >>> *

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
You don't have to, you just need to know what you are doing. Take the 
following example:

http://bt.shellworld.net/promo.mp3

When I recorded this a couple of years ago, I had computer noises and our 
air conditioning system behind it, and I eliminated them using nothing but 
the default noiseprint settings with Gold Wave. The only thing I did with 
the file now as convert the wave file to MP3.

Bruce

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I have stated in a previous message the pop and click filter in goldwafe work
> quite well. the hiss filter works too, but to me, taking a noise print with
> goldwave doesn't work the way I like it to. you shouldn't have to fiddle with 
> the
> settings to much to get good results from a noise print.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a
> problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for
> the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to
> work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However,
> the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without
> worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s,
> often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that
> recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and
> apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different
> presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in
> between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You
> can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much
> as you can in GoldWave.
>
> I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if
> you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4
> and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the
> current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease
> alone the app is worth it to me.
>
> Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl
> pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm
> not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration
> and offers 2 different choices for restoring.
>
> By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so,
> where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have
> them?
>
> Larry
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I
> think
> it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out,
> so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
> Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can
> from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how
> to work with them?
>
> As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
> Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.
>
> Larry
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
> isn't very
> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
> Diamond
> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
> person was
> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
> of
> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
> going to
> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
> too, but
> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
> could be
> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Skarstad
hi

Just out of curiocity, what's in the startup pack? Cause I'm thinking 
that it might not even be necessary, i mean if you just wanna 
transfer files to it. but then again maybe there's something I'm 
completely missing out on.


At 06:43 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>Yes the start up pack is what you're looking for. The file name is
>ZENStone_PCApp_CLI_L4_1_00_08a.exe, and it's approximately 13.5MB.
>
>Ketan Kothari wrote:
> > how large is the file?  I get a startup pack is that it?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
> >
> >
> >
> >> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I usually
> >> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the product.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>
> >> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only get the
> >> firmware updat.  Thank you.
> >>
> >> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you information
> >>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a check
> >>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have and
> >>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate to
> >>> state there's no need for it.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
> >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>>
> >>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen
> >>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is
> >>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no need
> >>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge the
> >>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the battery
> >>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and paste
> >>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste methods just
> >>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
> >>>
> >> lot of people might think.
> >>
> >>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>>
>  I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and Jawas
>  scripts. Please help.
>  Ketan Kothari
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Re: USB soundcard

2008-03-05 Thread Vy Pham
Thanks for your help!
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeffrey Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: USB soundcard


> Hello Vy:
>
> The  device manager is  easy to get to.
>
> Hold down the  following keys together and then release them.
> Control+ windows-pause.
> That key is  directly above your page up  key.
> You can also go to the system  control  icon in the control pannel.
>
> Next  press control+Tab twice to bring you to the hardware  pannel.
>
> After this, press tab key  once to the Device Manager button.
>
> There you go.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> At 08:15 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>>Could you tell me where the device manager is located? Cause I tried to
>>check in the ControlPanel, and could not find it.
>>Thanks!
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:03 PM
>>Subject: Re: USB soundcard
>>
>>
>> > There should be an option in device manager for the device. On my 
>> > headset
>> > it's called do not map through this device, and checking that makes it
>> > never
>> > become default unless you tell it to. It's a little buried in there 
>> > under
>> > USB audio device, properties, and USB audio device again for some 
>> > reason.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:43 AM
>> > Subject: USB soundcard
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>> >
>> >> Hi
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>> >> the
>> >> output of a mixer directly into the computer digitising it at the same
>> >> time. I found that it took over my computer and I could not hear jaws,
>> >> etc. Even after going into Sounds and audio in the control panel and
>> >> trying to set it up as normal I still couldn't find it reliable.
>> >> Could someone recommend a good USB soundcard which has inputs, outputs
>> >> and
>> >> if possible SP/Dif and optical sockets?
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Amadeus Pro: this software just keeps getting better

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi again everyone!
Well, I'm just amazed each time I play with this piece of software,  
every time I play with it or edit with it I seem to find something new  
that I didn't find before and today? Well its what's available in the  
"record new sound" from the Sound menu, this is a dialogue box which  
opens when its selected.
You have 5 tabs here which include input source, quality and a  
recording timer tab, that was the one which most interested me so i  
went to take a peak.
The tab is straight forward, you set Amadeus Pro to start and stop  
recording at specific times but where things are different is that you  
can specify a start and stop date. All feels here are extremely  
accessible with Voiceover and you don't have to edit the fields if you  
don't want to, just interact and use the cursor keys to change the  
values, what a nice and simple touch with a scheduler which isn't over  
complex, I see that in software sometimes.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah very nice! thanks for mentioning ht.s

On 04/03/2008, at 8:05 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> Dc 6 is a program sold by a company by the name of Tracertek. they  
> sell all kinds
> of audio restoration products. the actual name of the program is  
> Diamond Cut 6.
> they have a newer version out now. they also have a new program out  
> now which I
> don't recall the name of, but for $59.00 US dollars you can do vinyl  
> or cassette
> tape to compact disc projects. you can clean up files and work on  
> them at any time
> or there is a wizard that walks you through the steps from hooking  
> up the
> turntable to turning out the finished disc. I'll bet the noise  
> reduction works
> much better with this program than does goldwaves noise reduction. I  
> have always
> liked Tracertek products since the Dart pro 32 days. go to
> http://www.tracertek.com and you will find a plethora of stuff to  
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> Pardon me but how do you use the editor in what?
>
> On 03/03/2008, at 4:51 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin
>> separately, I think
>> it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
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>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have
>> pointed out,
>> so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
>> Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get
>> all I can
>> from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features
>> and how
>> to work with them?
>>
>> As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's  
>> inaccessibility.I
>> Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.
>>
>> Larry
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>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> reduction
>> isn't very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> like the
>> Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> blind
>> person was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> some kind
>> of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> I am
>> going to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> things
>> too, but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> thought it
>> could be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
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>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than  
>> Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
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Re: Converting Itunes files

2008-03-05 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi Gary
itunes files are m4a files - not sure what is at the root of that. I'm sure 
you're right - to convert them to mp3 must involve some loss. I really was 
asking if the highest setting 320 is 'perfect' as Sound Taxi says, or if I 
could maintain the original quality by converting the itunes file to wav.
Regards.
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> Aren't the ITunes files AAC files? it seems to me that you would have some 
> loss
> converting to MP3 no matter what the bitrate is.
>
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>
>
>> Hi
>> Using Sound Taxi am I right in saying that converting Itunes files, I 
>> would be
>> better to use the MP3 320 bit rate setting rather then anything lower, 
>> for
>> example 192 which some of the files are downloaded at. I don't suppose it 
>> will
>> improve the quality but will it maintain it? (I'm kind of assuming that 
>> as Sound
>> Taxi re-records the file that it re-compresses it.) When 320 is claimed 
>> by Sound
>> Taxi to be 'Perfect' would it be as good as using the wav conversion? 
>> Finally
>> would I just be best to use the wav conversion of the files to maintain 
>> the
>> original standard?
>> The answer's probably obvious but I just wanted clarification in order to 
>> keep
>> the files at the best possible quality.
>> Thanks.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes, there's a lot to be said for what you're saying, I guess its a  
matter of trial and error to see what you're happy with.
Capturing noise prints doesn't always work though, for some recordings  
(such as comedy or live recordings) it can make an absolute mess of  
the thing.

On 05/03/2008, at 1:32 AM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my  
> experience
> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional  
> methods,
> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds  
> filtered,
> you're better off with the noise.
>
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Re: Zenstone questions here folks!

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I'm sure I explained which Zen Stone I use early on in this 
thread, but I could see where that would get lost. I use the simple and 
screen-less 1GB Zen Stone. It's totally accessible and you can just use 
Windows Explorer to copy your MP3 files over to it.

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> Hi all, sort of been reading along the discussion of zenstone but so far
> your not explaining which zentstone your useing. One might be saying the
> zenstone which is the smaller version while the zenstone plus is 1GB and
> those two might work different. I own both and I know there is a
> difference. The zenstone plus or the 1 gb is not as easy to use as the
> simple zenstone. The switch buttons on top are easier to use, but I do
> like the larger capacity. But from your discussions, I have learned that
> you can fast forward now I got to go  chekc this out.
>
> Now, hey Wallmart has the zenstone 2 gb for $53 and the regular for 33.
> That so far is the best -price i have seen.
>
> How I use mine is like this: I have friends in Australia and they send me
> some funds to create for them audio and pod casts, lessons, stories and
> so on. Instead of me just creating 20 cd's I just load up the zenstone
> and send it off in a small envelope and they downlod everthing, sell the
> zenstone there and send me back the monies. TThis so far is working ok.
> My question is, is there a tiny flash drive that I might load up with
> .doc and mp3 files both and send, for less than the cost of a zenstone?
> Name, size and where to buy it would b neice.
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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There is a model of the Zen Stone with an FM radio, and it does have a 
2GB capacity, but it has a screen and a menu system on it that I've 
heard isn't particularly accessible. I've also heard that there's a 2GB 
version of the simple and screen less Zen Stone. I have a 1GB version of 
the simple and screen less Zen Stone, and that's the one I've been 
talking about and find so accessible.

aadorno1 wrote:
> hi does this mp3 player have an FM radio and is there a 2 gig model.
> thanks.
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:58 AM
> Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
>
>
>   
>> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I usually
>> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the product.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>>
>> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only get the
>> firmware updat.  Thank you.
>>
>> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you information
>>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a check
>>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have and
>>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate to
>>> state there's no need for it.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>>>
>>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen
>>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is
>>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no need
>>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge the
>>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the battery
>>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and paste
>>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste methods just
>>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
>>>   
>> lot of people might think.
>> 
>>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
>>>   
 I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and Jawas
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I too just use Windows Explorer to copy files to my Zen Stone, but to 
answer your question as to why the Creative Lite Media software exists, 
here are a few features it has besides just allowing you to copy files 
to your player:
- determine the amount of charge on the Zen Stone's battery,
- rip files directly from a CD to your Zen Stone,
- determine the level of firmware on your Zen Stone,
- find and install updates to the firmware on your Zen Stone,
- format your Zen Stone and
- set a maximum volume on your Zen Stone.
I don't use these features often, and for the most part, they aren't 
necessary to use the player, but it has these features, so I'll keep 
pointing people to the URL where they can download this software and the 
corresponding JFW scripts.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
> Hi
>
> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is 
> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use it, 
> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole 
> lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone, 
> because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer 
> files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because 
> you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software 
> interfaces for transfering files.
>
> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
>> On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a
>>> fast
>>> forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle
>>> down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current
>>> file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump
>>> to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
>>> connected
>>> to the computer.
>>>
>>> albert griffith wrote:
>>>   
 I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
 ability to
 forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when
 this
 function is called for.

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 Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have
 the
 latest firmware.
 On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:


 
> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a
> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to
> the
> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump
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> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the
> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
> You
> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only
> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Doc
first do you have the noise reduction plugin installed?

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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a
problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for
the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to
work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However,
the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without
worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s,
often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that
recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and
apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different
presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in
between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You
can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much
as you can in GoldWave.

I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if
you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4
and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the
current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease
alone the app is worth it to me.

Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl
pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm
not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration
and offers 2 different choices for restoring.

By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so,
where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have
them?

Larry
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Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I
think
it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
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Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out,
so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can
from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how
to work with them?

As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.

Larry
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
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Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: Converting Itunes files

2008-03-05 Thread Gary G Schindler
Are the M4A files mostly for audio books? I have limited experience with ITune 
stuff.
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> They can't be any better than they are and Itunes has converted them
> considerably.  Also, wave files are huge.
>
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>
> Hi Gary
> itunes files are m4a files - not sure what is at the root of that. I'm sure
> you're right - to convert them to mp3 must involve some loss. I really was
> asking if the highest setting 320 is 'perfect' as Sound Taxi says, or if I
> could maintain the original quality by converting the itunes file to wav.
> Regards.
> gordon
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>> Aren't the ITunes files AAC files? it seems to me that you would have
>> some loss converting to MP3 no matter what the bitrate is.
>>
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: "PC-Audio" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Converting Itunes files
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Using Sound Taxi am I right in saying that converting Itunes files, I
>>> would be better to use the MP3 320 bit rate setting rather then
>>> anything lower, for example 192 which some of the files are
>>> downloaded at. I don't suppose it will improve the quality but will
>>> it maintain it? (I'm kind of assuming that as Sound Taxi re-records
>>> the file that it re-compresses it.) When 320 is claimed by Sound Taxi
>>> to be 'Perfect' would it be as good as using the wav conversion?
>>> Finally
>>> would I just be best to use the wav conversion of the files to
>>> maintain the original standard?
>>> The answer's probably obvious but I just wanted clarification in
>>> order to keep the files at the best possible quality.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Right, well I have to be careful of what I say regarding Goldwave as  
I've done very little with it up till this time but I intend to do  
more, I'm very impressed with what I've seen thus far with the software.

On 04/03/2008, at 8:19 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I wouldn't push goldwave as a professional audio editor, powerful yes,
> professional no. your example of Amadeus Pro is an excellent example  
> of what can
> be done at an affordable price.

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Re: Headphones suggestions?

2008-03-05 Thread James Scholes
Anything in the range of around $200 to $300
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-05 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Bruce, thanks for that. It seems a little clearer now,
Billy,
Dinky Doo
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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
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> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>> is
>> possible,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music 
>> >track
>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > -- 
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>> >
>> > Bruce Toews
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>> >
>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but 
>> >> I
>> >> just can't get it to work.
>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on 
>> >> the
>> >> mother board.
>> >>
>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>> >> Billy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>> >>> shows
>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
>> >>> gave
>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce Toews
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>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>> >>>
>>  I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started
>>  donig
>>  this sometime last year.
>> 
>>  Sarah Alawami
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>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>  Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>  Subject: Re: sound editing?
>> 
>> 
>>  Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah well
>>  it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". The Sound
>>  Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it was
>>  about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of it
>>  yet? I was considerably impressed 

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Curtis Delzer
If the hum is 60Hz, easy, but if it has harmonics, then it can be a problem.
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I can see that with clicks and pops but with a hum which tends to be so
invasive throughout the track you take a chance of reducing the quality of
the part you want to keep most.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Doc,that works sometimes, but I just don't like the noise reduction filter
in
goldwave. you should be able to take a noise print and it should take care
of the
offending noise problem without having to finagle with low pass filters or
parametric equalizers.
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Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner noises?

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times as much
as
the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works pretty
good, but
when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or buzzes, it
could
be improved upon.
goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
(assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
Reduction system as a separate plug-in?

On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
> a soundforge
> like editing capability.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
> expect, its a steal.
>
> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> reduction isn't very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> like the Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> blind person was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> some kind of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> I am going to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> things too, but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> thought it could be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>> Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>
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Re: Amadeus Pro: this software just keeps getting better

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
For Windows, Gold Wave will also allow for the choosing of a date and time 
for recording. It doesn't allow for multiple timed schedules, as your 
program seems to do, but it is nice to be able to set up a recording time 
for days in advance.

Bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Hi again everyone!
> Well, I'm just amazed each time I play with this piece of software,
> every time I play with it or edit with it I seem to find something new
> that I didn't find before and today? Well its what's available in the
> "record new sound" from the Sound menu, this is a dialogue box which
> opens when its selected.
> You have 5 tabs here which include input source, quality and a
> recording timer tab, that was the one which most interested me so i
> went to take a peak.
> The tab is straight forward, you set Amadeus Pro to start and stop
> recording at specific times but where things are different is that you
> can specify a start and stop date. All feels here are extremely
> accessible with Voiceover and you don't have to edit the fields if you
> don't want to, just interact and use the cursor keys to change the
> values, what a nice and simple touch with a scheduler which isn't over
> complex, I see that in software sometimes.
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RE: Converting Itunes files

2008-03-05 Thread Cornell Ligon

I just read an article not specific to any file type, but it noted any 
compressed file converted to another is then recompressed to the new file type. 
with that stated, there wil be a bit of sound loss.
I've gotta figure though using a high bit rate will reduce the loss of 
quality...


Best Regards,
Cornell

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> Subject: Re: Converting Itunes files
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:27:23 +
>
> Hi Gary
> itunes files are m4a files - not sure what is at the root of that. I'm sure
> you're right - to convert them to mp3 must involve some loss. I really was
> asking if the highest setting 320 is 'perfect' as Sound Taxi says, or if I
> could maintain the original quality by converting the itunes file to wav.
> Regards.
> gordon
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Converting Itunes files
>
>
>> Aren't the ITunes files AAC files? it seems to me that you would have some
>> loss
>> converting to MP3 no matter what the bitrate is.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "G. McFarlane" 
>> To: "PC-Audio" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Converting Itunes files
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Using Sound Taxi am I right in saying that converting Itunes files, I
>>> would be
>>> better to use the MP3 320 bit rate setting rather then anything lower,
>>> for
>>> example 192 which some of the files are downloaded at. I don't suppose it
>>> will
>>> improve the quality but will it maintain it? (I'm kind of assuming that
>>> as Sound
>>> Taxi re-records the file that it re-compresses it.) When 320 is claimed
>>> by Sound
>>> Taxi to be 'Perfect' would it be as good as using the wav conversion?
>>> Finally
>>> would I just be best to use the wav conversion of the files to maintain
>>> the
>>> original standard?
>>> The answer's probably obvious but I just wanted clarification in order to
>>> keep
>>> the files at the best possible quality.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Caroline
Hi, Dan.  Actually, I understand the idea of plug-ins.  My question was 
based on the fact that some people seem to feel that the plug-ins are an 
extra thing that they shouldn't have to deal with.  My point was that, since 
the plug-ins menu is under the effects menu in Goldwave to me it seems that 
there's no difference between using the effects menu to choose an included 
effect or using this same menu to choose a plug-in.  And, if the plug-in is 
free, (which it seems that many are for goldwave), I just don't see how 
using them can be seen as such a terrible thing.  That's all I was trying to 
say.  Thanks.

Caroline

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Hi Caroline,
> if you have other plugins, like ones from  SoundForge for example, you
> could use them, instead of using one that has come  with GW.  For
> example, if you wanted an effect that you could get using SoundForge,
> I'm pretty sure that you could use that same effects plugin with
> GoldWave.  Personally I've used SoundForge for all my major editing
> for any production work I've done for various internet stations.
> Hope that helps you.
> On 4-Mar-08, at 6:08 PM, Caroline wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a
>> question.  I
>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine
>> for me.
>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in
>> or going
>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm
>> just not
>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below
>> it seems
>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was
>> done it
>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but
>> I just
>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>> nothing but
>>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise
>>> filter
>>> so we
>>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job
>>> in
>>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing
>>> works
>>> and
>>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
>>> continue
>>> to tell
>>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>>> demonstrations,
>>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works
>>> otherwise. don't
>>> brag,
>>> just produce fact.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
 conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
 experience
 that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the
 noise
 artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
 methods,
 and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
 efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
 tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds
 filtered,
 you're better off with the noise.

 Bruce
 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at
> least)
> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
> filters.
>
> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>
>> Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>> noises?
>>
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5
>> times
>> as much
>> as
>> the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>> pretty
>> good, but
>> when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>> buzzes, it
>> could
>> be improved upon.
>> goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you
>> pay for.
>

Soundcard suggestions.

2008-03-05 Thread James Scholes

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Hi all, I need to purchace a new soundcard, but I am not sure which one
would be the best for me. I think USB would be the way to go. It needs to
have a separate jac for line in and headphones. I say this as I have seen
soundcards with 1 jac for both line in and headphones. It also needs to
have stereo mix capabilities. All suggestions welcome.




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USB soundcard

2008-03-05 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi
I recently bought a USB sound input and output device in order to take the 
output of a mixer directly into the computer digitising it at the same time. I 
found that it took over my computer and I could not hear jaws, etc. Even after 
going into Sounds and audio in the control panel and trying to set it up as 
normal I still couldn't find it reliable.
Could someone recommend a good USB soundcard which has inputs, outputs and if 
possible SP/Dif and optical sockets?
Regards.
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Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense

2008-03-05 Thread Gary G Schindler
Thanks for the info, I guess that puts a damper on that idea! what player comes 
installed on the Braille note or Voice note?
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> Hi Gary.
>
> Don't hold your breath if you want to use the PAC Mate Omni to hear MLB 
> Baseball.  I've tried to get it to work, and so far I've had no luck.  In 
> fact 
> I've tried to hear NFL and NHL audio with the same poor results.  If anyone 
> knows some sport that I can hear with the PAC Mate Omni I'd appreciate the 
> info. 
> I'd even be willing to install another audio player.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
Yes. Usually when you try to remove background noise during a comedy with 
noiseprint, the first place where artifacts show up is in the laughter.

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> Yes, there's a lot to be said for what you're saying, I guess its a
> matter of trial and error to see what you're happy with.
> Capturing noise prints doesn't always work though, for some recordings
> (such as comedy or live recordings) it can make an absolute mess of
> the thing.
>
> On 05/03/2008, at 1:32 AM, Bruce Toews wrote:
>
>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
>> experience
>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
>> methods,
>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds
>> filtered,
>> you're better off with the noise.
>>
>> Bruce
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Re: nero 6.6 and copying another disk

2008-03-05 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Adrien,
you should be able to insert a blank disk, and press OK.

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> on copy disk with nero express, I then select the source
> drive etc and press copy. Once that is done, how do I copy a
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

2008-03-05 Thread Bobcat
Here is another equalizer to try.
RoMac 10 Band Equalizer
http://www.romacsoftware.com/EQdefault.asp

Don't let the name fool you.  It is Windows not Mac software.
This page is worth looking at just for the technical information alone.  The 
product appears to be developed for the Amateur Radio Community

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Re: USB soundcard

2008-03-05 Thread Brent Harding
Under system in the control panel. Then it's in the hardware tab.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:15 PM
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> Could you tell me where the device manager is located? Cause I tried to
> check in the ControlPanel, and could not find it.
> Thanks!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: USB soundcard
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>
>> There should be an option in device manager for the device. On my headset
>> it's called do not map through this device, and checking that makes it
>> never
>> become default unless you tell it to. It's a little buried in there under
>> USB audio device, properties, and USB audio device again for some reason.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC-Audio" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:43 AM
>> Subject: USB soundcard
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I recently bought a USB sound input and output device in order to take
>>> the
>>> output of a mixer directly into the computer digitising it at the same
>>> time. I found that it took over my computer and I could not hear jaws,
>>> etc. Even after going into Sounds and audio in the control panel and
>>> trying to set it up as normal I still couldn't find it reliable.
>>> Could someone recommend a good USB soundcard which has inputs, outputs
>>> and
>>> if possible SP/Dif and optical sockets?
>>> Regards.
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Re: Foobar 2000

2008-03-05 Thread Tim Crawford
Hi Brett,

I've heard a lot of good things about foobar, so I guess I'll persevere with 
it for a bit.

Could you possibly give me a quick description on how to define a hot key.

Also, while looking around the net, I read something about a screen reader 
compatibility setting.  Do you know if this is correct, and if so, where in 
the Foobar 2000 menu's it can be found.

Thanks,

Tim.

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>I haven't found it to be very accessible with WE. This might not be a good
> program to use for you. I am a Window-eyes user and have been for over ten
> years, but I've got to hand it to JFW. Foobar, the first program I have 
> seen
> that works without scripts! Believe it or not!
> If I could write set files for WE I'm sure I could make this program work.
> But I can't so I don't.
> The keyboard shortcuts have to be set up by the user. It's a simple 
> process
> but kind of a tedious one. If you don't have the time I suggest moving on.
> Thanks
> bb
>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:46 AM
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>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've downloaded the latest version, (0.9.5.1)  however it initially
>> doesn't
>> appear very accessible, at least with window-eyes.
>> Are earlier versions more usable?  I've read something regarding a screen
>> reader compatibility setting, but can't locate it in the programs
>> preferences.
>>
>> Also wonder could anyone give me a list of the basic keyboard shortcuts
>> for
>> the main player controls.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Tim.
>>
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>> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>>
>>
>>> You can find it at www.foobar2000.org
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:38 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Foobar 2000
>>>
>>>
 where is it available for download


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 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:58 PM
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 Subject: Re: Foobar 2000

 FOobar2000 is an accessible and rather efficient audio player.  It 
 works
 by
 using mainly standard controlls, though there is one querk in the 
 latest
 versions, that in order to go between the playlist tabs, you have to
 controll tab while hovering on the tab controll, not from anywhere, and
 you
 can't arrow left and right.  However, it works well, and I like using 
 it
 for
 some things.
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> Hi,
>
> I'd be interested in any comments re the accessability of foobar 2000
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>
> Also does anyone know of a tutorial anywhere, on  using it with 
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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-05 Thread Ketan Kothari
how large is the file?  I get a startup pack is that it?
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>I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I usually
> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the product.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>
> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only get the
> firmware updat.  Thank you.
>
> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you information
>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a check
>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have and
>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate to
>> state there's no need for it.
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
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>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>>
>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen
>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is
>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no need
>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge the
>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the battery
>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and paste
>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste methods just
>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
> lot of people might think.
>>
>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
>> >I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and Jawas
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RE: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-05 Thread albert griffith
What's in the literature is the link to their site. 

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how large is the file?  I get a startup pack is that it?
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>I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I usually
> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the product.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>
> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only get the
> firmware updat.  Thank you.
>
> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you information
>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a check
>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have and
>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate to
>> state there's no need for it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>>
>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen
>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is
>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no need
>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge the
>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the battery
>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and paste
>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste methods just
>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
> lot of people might think.
>>
>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
>> >I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and Jawas
>> >scripts. Please help.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Caroline
Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a question.  I 
also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for me. 
So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the 
difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or going 
to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just not 
seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it seems 
as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it 
wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I just 
found the below message to be rather rude.

Caroline

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have 
>nothing but
> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter 
> so we
> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works 
> and
> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't continue 
> to tell
> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give 
> demonstrations,
> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise. don't 
> brag,
> just produce fact.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
>> you're better off with the noise.
>>
>> Bruce
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>>> filters.
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>>
>>> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>>> > noises?
>>> >
>>> > **
>>> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
>>> > as much
>>> > as
>>> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>>> > pretty
>>> > good, but
>>> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>>> > buzzes, it
>>> > could
>>> > be improved upon.
>>> > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>>> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
>>> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
>>> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>>> >
>>> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>>> >> a soundforge
>>> >> like editing capability.
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
>>> >> you
>>> >> expect, its a steal.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>>> >>> reduction isn't very
>>> >>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>>> >>> like the Diamond
>>> >>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>>> >>> blind person 

Re: MMM reply on plus deck Re: plusdeck2

2008-03-05 Thread tickpub
Hi back, check out your sound settings in the main menu. There might be
soemthing in there. If that does not work, you might email the company
techs and present your problem to them. But, if your cassett is playing
fine upfront, then I bet they will tell you it is either your sound card,
or something to do with your speakers or settings. Maybe undo your
speakers and just try converting the file first. burn it to a cd and see
what it sounds like. But if the casset plays fine, I suspect something
else.

Have you tried different casstes. Maybe create a short test file and see
what it might do on maybe a brand new cassett.
Otherwise, I do not know more than that.
Also, try different files, mp3 first, then wave, different quality
settings and so forth.

There should be someone that knows more than I do about these matters.
Sorry I cannot tell you more.
MMM  
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:06:28 - "Estelita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hi,
> Thanks for your reply on my query.
> Yes, my cassette is in good condition.
> If I just play, the sound is perfect, but when I convert the music, 
> the
> sound is not good.
> The sound effect is just like mono even though I have a stereo 
> surround
> speakers in my PC.
> What do you mean by settings inside the configuration need to be 
> changed?
> Like what for example?
> As we followed the setting instruction for sure.
> We will try if you have other suggestion on this matter.
> 
> Estelita
> 
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> 
> 
> Hi, I do use the Plus Deck, casset to PC and I'm not really sure why 
> this
> is happening to you. You should get the exact sound quality that 
> the
> casset offers. Maybe your settings inside the configuration need to 
> be
> changed.
> Is your cassett in good condition?
> Try it first on a tape mahcine to see if it plays correctly.
> Other than that, I don't know, unless it might be your sound card or 
> some
> setting inside your PC?
> 
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:40:54 - "Estelita" 
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> > Does anybody here uses plusdeck2?
> > This is a device to connect into PC to play and convert music 
> tapes
> > into
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> is
> > not
> > really satisfying than the one I copied from the CD.
> > I tried converting the mp3 file into WMA yet, it made no
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RE: Zenstone questions here folks!

2008-03-05 Thread albert griffith
consider sending just flash drives without the gadgetry which should cost
less unless part of the plan is for the sale. 

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Subject: Zenstone questions here folks!

Hi all, sort of been reading along the discussion of zenstone but so far
your not explaining which zentstone your useing. One might be saying the
zenstone which is the smaller version while the zenstone plus is 1GB and
those two might work different. I own both and I know there is a difference.
The zenstone plus or the 1 gb is not as easy to use as the simple zenstone.
The switch buttons on top are easier to use, but I do like the larger
capacity. But from your discussions, I have learned that you can fast
forward now I got to go  chekc this out.

Now, hey Wallmart has the zenstone 2 gb for $53 and the regular for 33.
That so far is the best -price i have seen.

How I use mine is like this: I have friends in Australia and they send me
some funds to create for them audio and pod casts, lessons, stories and so
on. Instead of me just creating 20 cd's I just load up the zenstone and send
it off in a small envelope and they downlod everthing, sell the zenstone
there and send me back the monies. TThis so far is working ok.
My question is, is there a tiny flash drive that I might load up with .doc
and mp3 files both and send, for less than the cost of a zenstone?
Name, size and where to buy it would b neice.
Is there anything better than the zenstone.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Curtis Delzer
well, yes, but if you capture anything, and I do mean anything other than 
the noise, including background noise from an audience, which is not noise, 
odd results will be obtained. Therefore, if at all possible, listen to your 
recording and select part of that contains only noise, at least potentially 
half a second, enough to sample and let your computer do the work. I have 
had huge luck and fortune by doing it this way with both GW and SF's NR 
plug-in, but only if noise is selected. If anything else, then poor results 
are obtained.

Curtis Delzer
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Yes, there's a lot to be said for what you're saying, I guess its a
matter of trial and error to see what you're happy with.
Capturing noise prints doesn't always work though, for some recordings
(such as comedy or live recordings) it can make an absolute mess of
the thing.

On 05/03/2008, at 1:32 AM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
> experience
> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
> methods,
> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds
> filtered,
> you're better off with the noise.
>
> Bruce

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Re: Headphones V Headsets?

2008-03-05 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Bruce, I'm now confused. How do you setup headset in this case.
For recording and on skype?, 
Billy 

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Headphones V Headsets?


> One thing I like to do when recording is have Gold Wave record from my
> sound card, which has the higher quality mike, the line in, and so on,
> and give me output through my USB headset. The otehr advantage to this
> is that I can record what I want and still stay on Skype, since Skype
> isn't trying to use my sound card at all and that frees it up for Gold
> Wave.
> 
> Bruce
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:21:31 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Now I'm glad you mentioned this as I'm about to receive a new pair of  
>> Logitech Clear-Chat Pro headphones and I'll certainly be using those  
>> with a sound editor or whatever, they're a USB 2.0 device and as far  
>> as I know, they just function as a standard sound device or card does  
>> when it comes to an audio editor, just direct your input and output of  
>> the editor to the headphones and off you go, what could be more  
>> convenient. I've heard the quality of these things and (given the fact  
>> that they're worth about $40.00) the quality isn't too bad, very  
>> acceptable for most audio work.
>> 
>> On 04/03/2008, at 9:47 PM, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>> 
>> > hi guys,
>> >
>> > when using an audio editing program such as Goldwave, Sound Forge,  
>> > or Sonar
>> > for recording vocals etc.
>> > Is it better to use a stand alone mic with headphones or a good usb  
>> > headset
>> > with mic attached?,
>> >
>> > Billy,
>> > Dinky Doo
>> >
>> > Billy
>> >
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Re: Zenstone questions here folks!

2008-03-05 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello,
Yes there is a flash drive that you can get to do what you are asking about.
It is called the San Disc U-3 4 gig.
You can get them from RadioShack.
They had a special on them when I got mine.
I only paid $29.95 for it when they were running the special.
But they usually run for about $50.
My best regards.
  John.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:06 PM
Subject: Zenstone questions here folks!


> Hi all, sort of been reading along the discussion of zenstone but so far
> your not explaining which zentstone your useing. One might be saying the
> zenstone which is the smaller version while the zenstone plus is 1GB and
> those two might work different. I own both and I know there is a
> difference. The zenstone plus or the 1 gb is not as easy to use as the
> simple zenstone. The switch buttons on top are easier to use, but I do
> like the larger capacity. But from your discussions, I have learned that
> you can fast forward now I got to go  chekc this out.
>
> Now, hey Wallmart has the zenstone 2 gb for $53 and the regular for 33.
> That so far is the best -price i have seen.
>
> How I use mine is like this: I have friends in Australia and they send me
> some funds to create for them audio and pod casts, lessons, stories and
> so on. Instead of me just creating 20 cd's I just load up the zenstone
> and send it off in a small envelope and they downlod everthing, sell the
> zenstone there and send me back the monies. TThis so far is working ok.
> My question is, is there a tiny flash drive that I might load up with
> .doc and mp3 files both and send, for less than the cost of a zenstone?
> Name, size and where to buy it would b neice.
> Is there anything better than the zenstone.
>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
Billy,
Dinky Doo


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From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a question. 
> I
> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for me.
> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or 
> going
> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just not
> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it 
> seems
> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I just
> found the below message to be rather rude.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>>I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>nothing but
>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter
>> so we
>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works
>> and
>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't continue
>> to tell
>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>> demonstrations,
>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise. 
>> don't
>> brag,
>> just produce fact.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
>>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
>>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
>>> you're better off with the noise.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
 to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
 filters.

 On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:

 > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
 > noises?
 >
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 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
 > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
 >
 >
 > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
 > as much
 > as
 > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
 > pretty
 > good, but
 > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
 > buzzes, it
 > could
 > be improved upon.
 > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay 
 > for.
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
 > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
 >
 >
 > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times 
 > the
 > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
 > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
 > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
 > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
 > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
 >
 > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
 >
 >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
 >> a soundforge
 >> like editing capability.
 >>
 >> - Original Message -
 >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
 >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
 >>
 >>
 >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
 >> you

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Garry, sorry about that I thought you had used Sonar, must have been 
thinking of someone else.
I was just wondering how Sonar was for recording over karaoke tracks. This 
is mainly what I'm looking to do,
Billy,
Dinky Doo


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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I have never used sonar since I don't create music. I would like to know 
>how it
> works too. I had figured that there wouldn't be much need to play with 
> Sonar or
> Cakewalk. I am mostly into restoration like some others on this list.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> Garry, what about Sonar. how did you find that particular software to 
>> use?,
>> Billy
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> frankly you couldn't get a program to be any easier than soundforge.
>>> godwave to me
>>> is cumbersome to work with even though you get the job done, but like 
>>> you
>>> say, it
>>> is a matter of preference.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 I've tried Sound Forge's editing, and I'm sure it's wonderful, but I
 personally, and this is strictly personal preference, prefer Gold 
 Wave's
 method of editing.

 Bruce

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 On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a
> soundforge
> like editing capability.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
> expect, its a steal.
>
> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> reduction isn't very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> like the Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> blind person was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> some kind of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> I am going to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> things too, but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> thought it could be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than 
>> Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>
>> **
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RE: Headphones suggestions?

2008-03-05 Thread albert griffith
To make anything like a worthwhile suggestion I'd need to know what you want
to spend.  ten dollars a thousand or somewhere in between. 

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Hi, can anyone suggest a good set of headphones with nice stereo sound and
plenty of bass? My old headset isn't cooperating.
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

2008-03-05 Thread Doc
the real time equalizer sounds good but there is that problem that they seem 
to want you to register first and they have one of those damn security code 
picture.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.


> Hi Jim.  Is eq32.exe on your ftp site the eq32studio program you asked 
> about
> in another
> message?
>
> Have you looked at Graphic Equalizer Pro ?
> http://www.headwize.com/projects/anwida_prj.htm
>
> another one I've found through Google is:
> Graphic Equalizer Studio 2005
> www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Graphic_Equalizer_Studio/
>
> Another one is:
> RealTime Equalizer
> www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/RealTime-Equalizer.shtml
>
> My search terms on Google were
> equalizer for windows
>
> I think all of these are system wide programs that work with any source.
> There are others that only work with specific media players.
>
> Before anyone asks, I have not tried any of these yet.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jim Noseworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>
>
>> Hello Folks:
>>
>> I found demos of two such animals.
>>
>> You can download them from my server at:
>>
>> ftp.compuconference.com/software
>>
>> There not very Blind friendly.
>>
>> For JAWS users, HotSpotClicker might provide good access.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>
>>
>>> High Dock,
>>> For what it's worth, I did do a Dogpile search on that, I came up with
>>> nothing.
>>> So I am wondering at this point, does EQ software exist at all?
>>>  John.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>>
>>>
 My problem is similar but in my case my sound card doesn't come with a 
 E
 Qfeature.  though I have software for playing my music that has E q
 abilities this has no affect on my software speech which comes out too
 bassy. thus, the need of a software  program that will work by itself
 and
 do
 the same as the e q found in winamp.

 **
 Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !


 robert Doc Wright
 http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
 msn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Click to call me
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 - Original Message - 
 From: "Jim Noseworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.


> Hi John:
>
> Here's the deal:  I have my cable box  sending audio to my delta
> soundcard
> which works fine.  The problem is, that I have a Q-Bass USB audio
> headset
> and I would like to bridge the Delta soundcard to the Q-Bass headset
> while
> also having the ability to E Q the sound. Presently, I am using the
> Virtual
> Audio Cable program which works fine, as far as it goes however, I am
> not
> able to alter the sound with that program.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>
>
>> High Jim,
>> Please clearify what you mean when you say stand alone soft E-Q.
>>  John.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jim Noseworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:48 AM
>> Subject: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Folks:
>>>
>>> Is there an accessible high quality stand-alone soft E Q out there?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> " He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he 
>>> cannot
>>> lose. "
>>> Jim Elliot,
>>>
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>>>

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Gary G Schindler
now Bruce, that wasn't bad, do you have a copy without the noise reduction?we 
need 
some before and after samples. describe what you did if anything to change the 
settings. I'll possibly if I can find it, give you a troublesome noise print 
sample to show you what I was trying to work with. my sister was in a nursing 
home, and my Dad used a camcorder one day so I got the audio from it. the heat 
pump in the background was noisy as all heck!

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> You don't have to, you just need to know what you are doing. Take the
> following example:
>
> http://bt.shellworld.net/promo.mp3
>
> When I recorded this a couple of years ago, I had computer noises and our
> air conditioning system behind it, and I eliminated them using nothing but
> the default noiseprint settings with Gold Wave. The only thing I did with
> the file now as convert the wave file to MP3.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
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> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> I have stated in a previous message the pop and click filter in goldwafe work
>> quite well. the hiss filter works too, but to me, taking a noise print with
>> goldwave doesn't work the way I like it to. you shouldn't have to fiddle 
>> with 
>> the
>> settings to much to get good results from a noise print.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a
>> problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for
>> the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to
>> work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However,
>> the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without
>> worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s,
>> often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that
>> recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and
>> apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different
>> presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in
>> between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You
>> can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much
>> as you can in GoldWave.
>>
>> I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if
>> you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4
>> and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the
>> current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease
>> alone the app is worth it to me.
>>
>> Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl
>> pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm
>> not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration
>> and offers 2 different choices for restoring.
>>
>> By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so,
>> where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have
>> them?
>>
>> Larry
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I
>> think
>> it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out,
>> so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
>> Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can
>> from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how
>> to work with them?
>>
>> As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
>> Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.
>>
>> Larry
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Edito

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Caroline
It's for maximizing the volume throughout the file.  If you've got a file, 
and maybe you've got slightly different levels throughout, selecting the 
file and running it through this plug-in will, to my understanding, make it 
so everything is much more uniform.  From within Winamp, the file that 
you're listening to often is much improved as well because places that might 
be really loud compared to the rest of the file are brought down to the 
volume of the rest of the file.  I'm probably not doing the best job of 
explaining this, but hopefully this helps a little.

Caroline

- Original Message - 
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a question.
>> I
>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for me.
>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or
>> going
>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just not
>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it
>> seems
>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I 
>> just
>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>>I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>>nothing but
>>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter
>>> so we
>>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
>>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works
>>> and
>>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't 
>>> continue
>>> to tell
>>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>>> demonstrations,
>>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise.
>>> don't
>>> brag,
>>> just produce fact.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
 conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my 
 experience
 that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
 artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional 
 methods,
 and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
 efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
 tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
 you're better off with the noise.

 Bruce
 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
> filters.
>
> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>
> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
> > noises?
> >
> > **
> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
> >
> >
> > robert Doc Wright
> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> > msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Click to call me
> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >
> >
> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
> > as much
> > as
> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
> > pretty
> > good, but
> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
> > buzzes, it
> > could
> > be improved upon.
> > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay
> > for.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
> >
> >
> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wr

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Gary G Schindler
the message may seem rude, but as far as I am concerned it is put to bed. there 
is 
n issue here. I have no quarrel with Bruce, so that is that.
we can go back and forth about the noise reduction plugin, he likes it I don't. 
that is it. lets end this thread.

- Original Message - 
From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a question.  I
> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for me.
> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or going
> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just not
> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it seems
> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I just
> found the below message to be rather rude.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>>I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>nothing but
>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter
>> so we
>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works
>> and
>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't continue
>> to tell
>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>> demonstrations,
>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise. don't
>> brag,
>> just produce fact.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
>>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
>>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
>>> you're better off with the noise.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
 to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
 filters.

 On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:

 > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
 > noises?
 >
 > **
 > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
 >
 >
 > robert Doc Wright
 > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
 > msn
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > Click to call me
 > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
 >
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
 > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
 >
 >
 > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
 > as much
 > as
 > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
 > pretty
 > good, but
 > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
 > buzzes, it
 > could
 > be improved upon.
 > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
 > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
 >
 >
 > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
 > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
 > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
 > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
 > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
 > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
 >
 > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
 >
 >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
 >> a soundforge
 >> like editing capability.
 >>
 >> - Original Message -
 >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 >> Sent: Sunday, March

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread Nick G
Might I recommend that those who can, join this class.  I do not need it, 
and no I will not be teaching it, but I do know how to use Exact Audio Copy, 
and for sheer quality of rips, there is no CD extractor program finer. 
None.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: Fwd: Exact Audio Copy Class


> To join this class you will need to be a supporting member of
> www.vipconduit.com.  -Steve.
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Tuesday, March 18
> Attention VIPConduit Supporting Members
>
> Dennis, Startbutton, invites you to join him for a new class beginning
> on Tuesday, March 18, at 9:00PM Eastern, in Dennis's Classroom.
> Below you will find a description of the Exact Audio Copy Class.
> You do not need to register ahead of time.
>
> Learning Exact Audio Copy.
>
> Time: 9:00PM Eastern
>
> Location: Dennis's Classroom
>
> Number of classes 2 to 4.
>
> Experience level intermediate.
>
> Blind friendliness level, 8 points out of a possible 10 points.
>
> This class is open to supporting members of VIPConduit.
>
> Exact audio copy may be the most accurate CD ripping and burning package
> that I have ever used in the last ten years.
>
> The latest addition of this program has several improvements over the
> earlier version that I reviewed up on the tutorial section of the VIP
> conduit web site.
>
> You no longer have to manually set up the program to get the best
> settings for the ripper.
> This should significantly shorten the learning curve on an extremely
> cool program.
>
> Here is a list of the subjects we will be covering during this class.
>
> 1. Installation
>
> 2. Setup using the setup wizard.
>
> 3. Ripping are first CD.
>
> 3,A. Retrieving CD info from the CDDB data base.
>
> 3,B. Talking about what keys to use to rip your first CD.
>
> 3,C. Selecting and unselecting tracks to be ripped in the list of
> tracks.
>
> 3,d. Saving your tracks to the hard drive.
>
> 4. Burning are first CD.
>
> 4,A. Loading up the CD lay out editor.
>
> 4,B. Selecting the tracks you want to burn to CD.
>
> 4,C. Starting the burning process
>
> 4,d. Closing the CD lay out editor.
>
> 5. Copying a CD.
>
> 5,a. Saving a copy of the image and q sheet to be used in burning the
> CD.
>
> 5,b. Once again loading the layout editor.
>
> 5,c. Loading the image and q sheet in to the layout editor for burning
> to CD.
>
> 5,D. Burning the q sheet and image to the CD.
>
> Special note:  This program only works with audio CD's.
>
> It will not burn data CDs or DVD disks.
>
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963
>
>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I remember once upon not all that a long ago  when the only way  
I could edit with a Mac was to navigate by time through my audio file  
I wished to edit, took me a while to get used to and I wouldn't  
recommend this method to anyone if they can avoid it but like  
everything else, once i got the hang of it my speed increased and  
actually, editing to the milisecond had one advantage in that you got  
extremely accurate and professional sounding edits. thankfully those  
days are behind us now but it just goes to show what you can do if  
you're really determiend to use something to get a job done.

On 05/03/2008, at 9:13 PM, Doc wrote:

> What makes an editor professional is determined by the skill of the  
> person
> doing the editing.  If you haven't a clue on what to listen for,  
> remove or
> enhance, I don't care how many bells and whistles a particular editing
> program may have you're going to get poor to mediocre quality.  You  
> are
> going to have to scrape your ears a while to get what you have  
> decided is
> good to excellant quality.

**
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

2008-03-05 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Bobcat:

Yep! The program is on my server.

Cheers.


- Original Message - 
From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.


> Hi Jim.  Is eq32.exe on your ftp site the eq32studio program you asked 
> about
> in another
> message?
>
> Have you looked at Graphic Equalizer Pro ?
> http://www.headwize.com/projects/anwida_prj.htm
>
> another one I've found through Google is:
> Graphic Equalizer Studio 2005
> www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Graphic_Equalizer_Studio/
>
> Another one is:
> RealTime Equalizer
> www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/RealTime-Equalizer.shtml
>
> My search terms on Google were
> equalizer for windows
>
> I think all of these are system wide programs that work with any source.
> There are others that only work with specific media players.
>
> Before anyone asks, I have not tried any of these yet.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jim Noseworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>
>
>> Hello Folks:
>>
>> I found demos of two such animals.
>>
>> You can download them from my server at:
>>
>> ftp.compuconference.com/software
>>
>> There not very Blind friendly.
>>
>> For JAWS users, HotSpotClicker might provide good access.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>
>>
>>> High Dock,
>>> For what it's worth, I did do a Dogpile search on that, I came up with
>>> nothing.
>>> So I am wondering at this point, does EQ software exist at all?
>>>  John.
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>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:33 AM
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>>>
>>>
 My problem is similar but in my case my sound card doesn't come with a 
 E
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>
> Here's the deal:  I have my cable box  sending audio to my delta
> soundcard
> which works fine.  The problem is, that I have a Q-Bass USB audio
> headset
> and I would like to bridge the Delta soundcard to the Q-Bass headset
> while
> also having the ability to E Q the sound. Presently, I am using the
> Virtual
> Audio Cable program which works fine, as far as it goes however, I am
> not
> able to alter the sound with that program.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:29 PM
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>> To: "PC Audio" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:48 AM
>> Subject: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>
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>>> Hi Folks:
>>>
>>> Is there an accessible high quality stand-alone soft E Q out there?
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>>> Thanks.
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Re: Headphones V Headsets?

2008-03-05 Thread constantine (on laptop)
Yeah, just one problem:

The USB headphones can't be used in conjunction with stario mixer, what you 
hear, etc, so if you want to use that, you'll be out of luck. I'm using a 
pair of acoostic headphones with an attached mic, and they work just as 
good, if not better, than my USB pair made by the same company.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:21 PM
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Now I'm glad you mentioned this as I'm about to receive a new pair of
Logitech Clear-Chat Pro headphones and I'll certainly be using those
with a sound editor or whatever, they're a USB 2.0 device and as far
as I know, they just function as a standard sound device or card does
when it comes to an audio editor, just direct your input and output of
the editor to the headphones and off you go, what could be more
convenient. I've heard the quality of these things and (given the fact
that they're worth about $40.00) the quality isn't too bad, very
acceptable for most audio work.

On 04/03/2008, at 9:47 PM, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:

> hi guys,
>
> when using an audio editing program such as Goldwave, Sound Forge,
> or Sonar
> for recording vocals etc.
> Is it better to use a stand alone mic with headphones or a good usb
> headset
> with mic attached?,
>
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> Dinky Doo
>
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Re: Total Recorder, any more news about Version 7?

2008-03-05 Thread Gary Wood
You can start recording a TV program at 10 p.m., and the show is one hour 
long, and then start watching that program at 10-30 p.m., while the show is 
being recorded.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Total Recorder, any more news about Version 7?


Ok, what I mean is, suppose you schedule a recording or start Total
recording manually and you want to play back what you've recorded?
Well normally you'd have to stop Total Recorder from recording and
then play the recording back? Time shifting means that you can start
the recording and after a preset time (say a number of seconds) you
can play back what's been recorded whilst the recording itself
continues, pause the playback if a phone call comes in for example and
the recording keeps going so you can resume from exactly where you
paused, does this make any sense?
This sort of feature is common place on video recording devices these
days.

On 02/03/2008, at 1:14 PM, Mac Norins wrote:

> Dane,
>
> What , specifically, do you mean, by time shifting?  It has been my
> experience, although I don't have a lot of experience with TR, that
> time
> shifting was part of the deal, now wasn't it?  I mean, that you could
> schedule a recording .  What do YOU mean by time shifting, if I may
> be so
> bold!  BTW, you often ramble.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mac Norins
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> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:14 AM
> Subject: Total Recorder, any more news about Version 7?
>
>
> Hi Everyone!
> I wen't up on to http://www.highcriteria.com to see what the status
> was with Total Recorder, its been a rather "long time between drinks"
> it seems since version 6.2 was released so I was wondering whether
> Version 7 had shown its head yet, obviously not!
> We discussed on list some of the new features that High Criteria were
> talking about for Total recorder v7 and I'll be quite frank with you
> all, the day V7 is released won't be a day too soon as some of the
> features (such as Time Shifting) will be worth the upgrade cost. Does
> anyone have any information as to when v7 may be released? From what I
> gathered in our last discussion on this, High Criteria were
> experiencing some problems with Total Recorder v6 and Windows Vista,
> that's not big news to my ears of course, who isn't experiencing
> problems with Vista  that would be more news worthy but I'm
> rambling .
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-05 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play the 
backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in 
goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp, 
and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start 
singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
Sorry about this,
Billy



- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>> is
>> possible,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music 
>> >track
>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>> >
>> > Bruce Toews
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>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
>> > http://www.ogts.net
>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> >
>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but 
>> >> I
>> >> just can't get it to work.
>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on 
>> >> the
>> >> mother board.
>> >>
>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>> >> Billy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>> >>> shows
>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
>> >>> gave
>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce Toews
>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>> >>>
>>  I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started
>>  donig
>>  this sometime last year.
>> 
>>  Sarah Alawami
>>  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>  Website;
>>  www.marrie.org
>>  To check out my podcast go to
>>  http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>  For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast check 
>>  out
>>  http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>>  "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>  Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>  Subject: Re: sound editing?
>> 
>> 
>>  Yes, I've heard a lot abo

Re: Zenstone questions here folks!

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Skarstad
hi.  The one everyone is talking about is the Zen Stone, which only 
holds 1 GB of storage.
The Zen stone plus, has up to 4 GB of storage on its internal flash 
drive, a voice recorder, fm radio and a screen with menus that you'll 
have to memorize. so to get the one everyone is talking about here, 
get the original creative Zen Stone with no screen and only holds one 
GB. That's the one everyone's mentioning here.  The sandisc flash 
drive mentioned before is something completely different.



At 06:17 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>Hello,
>Yes there is a flash drive that you can get to do what you are asking about.
>It is called the San Disc U-3 4 gig.
>You can get them from RadioShack.
>They had a special on them when I got mine.
>I only paid $29.95 for it when they were running the special.
>But they usually run for about $50.
>My best regards.
>   John.
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>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:06 PM
>Subject: Zenstone questions here folks!
>
>
> > Hi all, sort of been reading along the discussion of zenstone but so far
> > your not explaining which zentstone your useing. One might be saying the
> > zenstone which is the smaller version while the zenstone plus is 1GB and
> > those two might work different. I own both and I know there is a
> > difference. The zenstone plus or the 1 gb is not as easy to use as the
> > simple zenstone. The switch buttons on top are easier to use, but I do
> > like the larger capacity. But from your discussions, I have learned that
> > you can fast forward now I got to go  chekc this out.
> >
> > Now, hey Wallmart has the zenstone 2 gb for $53 and the regular for 33.
> > That so far is the best -price i have seen.
> >
> > How I use mine is like this: I have friends in Australia and they send me
> > some funds to create for them audio and pod casts, lessons, stories and
> > so on. Instead of me just creating 20 cd's I just load up the zenstone
> > and send it off in a small envelope and they downlod everthing, sell the
> > zenstone there and send me back the monies. TThis so far is working ok.
> > My question is, is there a tiny flash drive that I might load up with
> > .doc and mp3 files both and send, for less than the cost of a zenstone?
> > Name, size and where to buy it would b neice.
> > Is there anything better than the zenstone.
> >
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
You don't have to alt-tab back into Gold Wave. If you have your recording 
device set to mike, then it doesn't matter what's playing over your 
headphones, Gold Wave will be recording from the mike.

bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:

> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play the
> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp,
> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> Sorry about this,
> Billy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>> as well.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Bruce,
>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>> goldwave
>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>> project?.
>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>>> is
>>> possible,
>>> Billy,
>>> Dinky Doo
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
 track
 in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
 are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
 the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV

 Bruce Toews
 Skype ID: o.canada
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
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 On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:

> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but
> I
> just can't get it to work.
> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
> the
> mother board.
>
> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
> Billy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>> shows
>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>
>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started
>>> donig
>>> this sometime last year.
>>>

Fwd: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread Steve Pattison
To join this class you will need to be a supporting member of 
www.vipconduit.com.  -Steve.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, March 18
Attention VIPConduit Supporting Members

Dennis, Startbutton, invites you to join him for a new class beginning 
on Tuesday, March 18, at 9:00PM Eastern, in Dennis's Classroom.
Below you will find a description of the Exact Audio Copy Class.
You do not need to register ahead of time.

Learning Exact Audio Copy.

Time: 9:00PM Eastern

Location: Dennis's Classroom

Number of classes 2 to 4.

Experience level intermediate.

Blind friendliness level, 8 points out of a possible 10 points.

This class is open to supporting members of VIPConduit.

Exact audio copy may be the most accurate CD ripping and burning package 
that I have ever used in the last ten years.

The latest addition of this program has several improvements over the 
earlier version that I reviewed up on the tutorial section of the VIP 
conduit web site.

You no longer have to manually set up the program to get the best 
settings for the ripper.
This should significantly shorten the learning curve on an extremely 
cool program.

Here is a list of the subjects we will be covering during this class.

1. Installation

2. Setup using the setup wizard.

3. Ripping are first CD.

3,A. Retrieving CD info from the CDDB data base.

3,B. Talking about what keys to use to rip your first CD.

3,C. Selecting and unselecting tracks to be ripped in the list of 
tracks.

3,d. Saving your tracks to the hard drive.

4. Burning are first CD.

4,A. Loading up the CD lay out editor.

4,B. Selecting the tracks you want to burn to CD.

4,C. Starting the burning process

4,d. Closing the CD lay out editor.

5. Copying a CD.

5,a. Saving a copy of the image and q sheet to be used in burning the 
CD.

5,b. Once again loading the layout editor.

5,c. Loading the image and q sheet in to the layout editor for burning 
to CD.

5,D. Burning the q sheet and image to the CD.

Special note:  This program only works with audio CD's.

It will not burn data CDs or DVD disks.

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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, the starter pack definitely includes Creative Media Lite, which in 
addition to letting you copy files over to your Zen stone (which as you 
know you can just do with Windows Explorer), also has the following 
features:
- determine the amount of charge on the Zen Stone's battery,
- rip files directly from a CD to your Zen Stone,
- determine the level of firmware on your Zen Stone,
- find and install updates to the firmware on your Zen Stone,
- format your Zen Stone and
- set a maximum volume on your Zen Stone.
I don't use these features often, and for the most part, they aren't 
necessary to use the player. Remember too that there are JFW scripts 
available for this application.

I believe the starter pack also includes the on-line documentation for 
the Zen Stone.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
> hi
>
> Just out of curiocity, what's in the startup pack? Cause I'm thinking 
> that it might not even be necessary, i mean if you just wanna 
> transfer files to it. but then again maybe there's something I'm 
> completely missing out on.
>
>
> At 06:43 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> Yes the start up pack is what you're looking for. The file name is
>> ZENStone_PCApp_CLI_L4_1_00_08a.exe, and it's approximately 13.5MB.
>>
>> Ketan Kothari wrote:
>> 
>>> how large is the file?  I get a startup pack is that it?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:28 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I usually
 do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the product.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone

 Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only get the
 firmware updat.  Thank you.

 On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you information
> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a check
> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have and
> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate to
> state there's no need for it.
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>
> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen
> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is
> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no need
> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge the
> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the battery
> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and paste
> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste methods just
> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
>
>   
 lot of people might think.

 
> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
>
>   
>> I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and Jawas
>> scripts. Please help.
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Re: USB soundcard

2008-03-05 Thread G. McFarlane
Thanks Brent. I'll look for this and see how it works.
Regards.
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> There should be an option in device manager for the device. On my headset
> it's called do not map through this device, and checking that makes it 
> never
> become default unless you tell it to. It's a little buried in there under
> USB audio device, properties, and USB audio device again for some reason.
>
> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:43 AM
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>
>
>> Hi
>> I recently bought a USB sound input and output device in order to take 
>> the
>> output of a mixer directly into the computer digitising it at the same
>> time. I found that it took over my computer and I could not hear jaws,
>> etc. Even after going into Sounds and audio in the control panel and
>> trying to set it up as normal I still couldn't find it reliable.
>> Could someone recommend a good USB soundcard which has inputs, outputs 
>> and
>> if possible SP/Dif and optical sockets?
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Skarstad
Yep, and let's take this a step further, I actually did give the 
creative media lite software a look, i wanted to know what it was all 
about.  I was able to use it just fine, I was surprised to hear 
someone had created scripts for it.  That's one of those situations 
where I think scripts are kind of unnecessary, but at the same time, 
i'm glad they're out there for folks who want them. I like being able 
to hook up the zen stone, copy files to it, unplug it and take it 
with me.  no muss, no fuss, just straight file transfering.  That's 
how it should be, least to me.

At 01:26 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>Right On, that is what I wanted to say but you beat me to it, great an
>good for this group!
>MMM
>On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:39 -0600 Chris Skarstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
> > Hi
> >
> > and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is
> >
> > not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use
> > it,
> > but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole
> > lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone,
> > because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer
> >
> > files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because
> >
> > you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software
> >
> > interfaces for transfering files.
> >
> > At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> > >You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
> > >On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > >
> > > > I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does
> > have a
> > > > fast
> > > > forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation
> > circle
> > > > down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the
> > current
> > > > file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if
> > you jump
> > > > to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
> > > > connected
> > > > to the computer.
> > > >
> > > > albert griffith wrote:
> > > >> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
> > > >> ability to
> > > >> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer
> > when
> > > >> this
> > > >> function is called for.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> ]
> > > >> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> > > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > > >> Subject: Re: zenstone question
> > > >>
> > > >> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you
> > have
> > > >> the
> > > >> latest firmware.
> > > >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place
> > in a
> > > >>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come
> > back to
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only
> > jump
> > > >>> from
> > > >>> file to file.
> > > >>>
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> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is
> > the
> > > >>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which
> > has the
> > > >>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work
> > with.
> > > >>> You
> > > >>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned,
> > you only
> > > >>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> > > >>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web
> > site and
> > > >>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> > > >>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the
> > less
> > > >>> expensive and more useable one instead.
> > > >>> Take care and that is what I know
> > > >>> MMM
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Doc
Is this the thomas limiter?

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> It's for maximizing the volume throughout the file.  If you've got a file,
> and maybe you've got slightly different levels throughout, selecting the
> file and running it through this plug-in will, to my understanding, make 
> it
> so everything is much more uniform.  From within Winamp, the file that
> you're listening to often is much improved as well because places that 
> might
> be really loud compared to the rest of the file are brought down to the
> volume of the rest of the file.  I'm probably not doing the best job of
> explaining this, but hopefully this helps a little.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a 
>>> question.
>>> I
>>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for 
>>> me.
>>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or
>>> going
>>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just 
>>> not
>>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it
>>> seems
>>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
>>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I
>>> just
>>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>>
>>> Caroline
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
nothing but
 the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise 
 filter
 so we
 don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
 comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing 
 works
 and
 provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
 continue
 to tell
 people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
 demonstrations,
 because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise.
 don't
 brag,
 just produce fact.
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
> experience
> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
> methods,
> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds 
> filtered,
> you're better off with the noise.
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>> filters.
>>
>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>
>> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>> > noises?
>> >
>> > **
>> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>> >
>> >
>> > robert Doc Wright
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>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 
>> > times
>> > as much
>> > as
>> > the goldwave program

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2008-03-05 Thread oussama metatla

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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-05 Thread Sarah
Why not use audacity to do that?

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Hi Bruce
I too would be interested as to how you put your voice over karaoke tracks 
in GW.
Thanks.
Gordon McFarlane
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


>I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio shows
> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>
>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started donig 
>> this sometime last year.
>>
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>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah well
>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". The Sound
>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it was
>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of it
>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a while since
>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced either.
>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features available
>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>>
>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors onboard.
>>> There's
>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking about
>>> simple
>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to understand
>>> and set
>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins hands
>>> down.
>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any piece of
>>> software
>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss reduction and
>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its manual is
>>> difficult
>>> to use with speech.
>>>
>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I
>>> probably
>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance, Sound
>>> Forge
>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited from what the
>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure, nor
>>> am I
>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with
>>> keyboard
>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none of the
>>> Sound
>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is worth
>>> its hefty
>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded file,
>>> such as
>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and extraneous
>>> noise,
>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this group
>>> can do
>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I can edit a
>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>>>
>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly while
>>> using Sound
>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio restoration
>>> feature
>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to an
>>> entire file.
>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not getting
>>> the
>>> most from the program.
>>>
>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a copy,
>>> but to
>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>>>
>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my first
>>> audio editor
>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would choose

RE: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread albert griffith
I'm going to try to update the firmware but are you saying that pressing the
wheel for a short time skips to another file while holding it longer moves
through the present one?  Also does the position of the repeat switch effect
this feature?  thanks 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:11 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: zenstone question

no that's not true.  It works as I said here on my zen stone.  either you
are doing something wrong or maybe you have an older firmware?

Rick

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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: zenstone question


Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
file on it that might work.

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On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: zenstone question

incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
playing file.

Rick

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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: zenstone question


While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.

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Subject: zenstone question

Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
MMM
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Re: Amadeus Pro: this software just keeps getting better

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
yes indeed! As I said earlier, I meant to sit down and explore  
everything that Goldwave has to offer but there's been too much going  
on here. I would like to see a "pre-recording buffer" or similar  
option included in Amadeus Pro but I suppose at $40.00 per licence you  
can't or shouldn't expect everything .

On 05/03/2008, at 7:10 PM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> For Windows, Gold Wave will also allow for the choosing of a date  
> and time
> for recording. It doesn't allow for multiple timed schedules, as your
> program seems to do, but it is nice to be able to set up a recording  
> time
> for days in advance.
>
> Bruce

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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Steve,
Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought CD's 
sense the late 1990's.
This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as far as 
ripping and burning CD's goes.
Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
My best regards.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: Fwd: Exact Audio Copy Class


> To join this class you will need to be a supporting member of
> www.vipconduit.com.  -Steve.
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Tuesday, March 18
> Attention VIPConduit Supporting Members
>
> Dennis, Startbutton, invites you to join him for a new class beginning
> on Tuesday, March 18, at 9:00PM Eastern, in Dennis's Classroom.
> Below you will find a description of the Exact Audio Copy Class.
> You do not need to register ahead of time.
>
> Learning Exact Audio Copy.
>
> Time: 9:00PM Eastern
>
> Location: Dennis's Classroom
>
> Number of classes 2 to 4.
>
> Experience level intermediate.
>
> Blind friendliness level, 8 points out of a possible 10 points.
>
> This class is open to supporting members of VIPConduit.
>
> Exact audio copy may be the most accurate CD ripping and burning package
> that I have ever used in the last ten years.
>
> The latest addition of this program has several improvements over the
> earlier version that I reviewed up on the tutorial section of the VIP
> conduit web site.
>
> You no longer have to manually set up the program to get the best
> settings for the ripper.
> This should significantly shorten the learning curve on an extremely
> cool program.
>
> Here is a list of the subjects we will be covering during this class.
>
> 1. Installation
>
> 2. Setup using the setup wizard.
>
> 3. Ripping are first CD.
>
> 3,A. Retrieving CD info from the CDDB data base.
>
> 3,B. Talking about what keys to use to rip your first CD.
>
> 3,C. Selecting and unselecting tracks to be ripped in the list of
> tracks.
>
> 3,d. Saving your tracks to the hard drive.
>
> 4. Burning are first CD.
>
> 4,A. Loading up the CD lay out editor.
>
> 4,B. Selecting the tracks you want to burn to CD.
>
> 4,C. Starting the burning process
>
> 4,d. Closing the CD lay out editor.
>
> 5. Copying a CD.
>
> 5,a. Saving a copy of the image and q sheet to be used in burning the
> CD.
>
> 5,b. Once again loading the layout editor.
>
> 5,c. Loading the image and q sheet in to the layout editor for burning
> to CD.
>
> 5,D. Burning the q sheet and image to the CD.
>
> Special note:  This program only works with audio CD's.
>
> It will not burn data CDs or DVD disks.
>
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-05 Thread Doc
Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to return to 
it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your singing 
you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't worry 
about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just keep 
singing until you get it like you want.

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- Original Message - 
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play 
> the
> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp,
> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> Sorry about this,
> Billy
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>> as well.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Bruce,
>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>> goldwave
>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>> project?.
>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>>> is
>>> possible,
>>> Billy,
>>> Dinky Doo
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>> >track
>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. 
>>> > There
>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>> >
>>> > Bruce
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
>>> > gave
>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>> >
>>> > Bruce Toews
>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> > http://www.ogts.net
>>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, 
>>> >> but
>>> >> I
>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>>> >> the
>>> >> mother board.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>> >> Billy
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>>> >>> shows
>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> >>> gave
>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat,

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Sarah
I can't get the GW amp to work. I get an error dll missing. i think it is 
encflac or something that's missing. how did you get 
yours to work? You can  email me off ist of you want.
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Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot

- Original Message - 
From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a question.  I
also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for me.
So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or going
to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just not
seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it seems
as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I just
found the below message to be rather rude.

Caroline

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>nothing but
> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter
> so we
> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works
> and
> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't continue
> to tell
> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
> demonstrations,
> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise. don't
> brag,
> just produce fact.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
>> you're better off with the noise.
>>
>> Bruce
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>>> filters.
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>>
>>> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>>> > noises?
>>> >
>>> > **
>>> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > robert Doc Wright
>>> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> > msn
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Click to call me
>>> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
>>> > as much
>>> > as
>>> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>>> > pretty
>>> > good, but
>>> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>>> > buzzes, it
>>> > could
>>> > be improved upon.
>>> > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>>> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
>>> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
>>> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>>> >
>>> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>>> >> a soundforge
>>> >> like editing capability.
>>> >>
>>> >> -

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
No. She's using Audio Stocker. For me personally the Thomas Limiter has 
too many options. But you could use that too if you wish.

Bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:

> Is this the thomas limiter?
>
> **
> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>
>
> robert Doc Wright
> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> msn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Click to call me
> http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> It's for maximizing the volume throughout the file.  If you've got a file,
>> and maybe you've got slightly different levels throughout, selecting the
>> file and running it through this plug-in will, to my understanding, make
>> it
>> so everything is much more uniform.  From within Winamp, the file that
>> you're listening to often is much improved as well because places that
>> might
>> be really loud compared to the rest of the file are brought down to the
>> volume of the rest of the file.  I'm probably not doing the best job of
>> explaining this, but hopefully this helps a little.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
>>> Billy,
>>> Dinky Doo
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a
 question.
 I
 also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for
 me.
 So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
 difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or
 going
 to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just
 not
 seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it
 seems
 as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
 wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I
 just
 found the below message to be rather rude.

 Caroline

 - Original Message -
 From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
> nothing but
> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise
> filter
> so we
> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing
> works
> and
> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
> continue
> to tell
> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
> demonstrations,
> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise.
> don't
> brag,
> just produce fact.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
>> experience
>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
>> methods,
>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds
>> filtered,
>> you're better off with the noise.
>>
>> Bruce
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>>> filters.
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>>
 Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
 noises?
>>>

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
I must say that I'm very proud to see Exact Audio Copy at last!  
getting some well overdue recognition and not being laughed at for a  
change by the few idiots around the traps who ought to know better  
.
yes, the software is even better than it was before with the  
introduction of several improvements including the "accurate rip"  
feature which compares other rips (done by EAC) of the same CD over  
the Internet, from that information EAC can automatically configure  
your CD drive for optimum performance when ripping rather than you  
having to specify the ofset speeds manually etc.

On 06/03/2008, at 1:25 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Steve,
> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought  
> CD's
> sense the late 1990's.
> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as  
> far as
> ripping and burning CD's goes.
> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
> My best regards.
>  John.

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Re: dual layer CD

2008-03-05 Thread Audrey Levine
At 03:51 PM 3/2/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know about burning both sides or anything like that, but I do own a
>Bruce Springsteen disk that's a regular cd on 1 side and a DVD on the other,
>so that might be what you heard about.
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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread Gary G Schindler
I have heard nothing but good things to say about exact audio copy. I guess 
ripping is the only thing it does? it doesn't do file conversions?

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


I must say that I'm very proud to see Exact Audio Copy at last!
getting some well overdue recognition and not being laughed at for a
change by the few idiots around the traps who ought to know better
.
yes, the software is even better than it was before with the
introduction of several improvements including the "accurate rip"
feature which compares other rips (done by EAC) of the same CD over
the Internet, from that information EAC can automatically configure
your CD drive for optimum performance when ripping rather than you
having to specify the ofset speeds manually etc.

On 06/03/2008, at 1:25 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Steve,
> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought
> CD's
> sense the late 1990's.
> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as
> far as
> ripping and burning CD's goes.
> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
> My best regards.
>  John.

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Phone +613 9747 3975
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Re: Goldwave Tutorial

2008-03-05 Thread Rick Harmon
thanks,  I'm glad people really like them.  I originally learned from 
Dennis's tutorials and think they are great too.  I need to get off my lazy 
butt and update my tutorials to the latest versions and the new features 
added.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Tutorial


Rick's tutorials are excellent. I listen to everyone's tutorials even though 
I may
think I am proficient with a program, for I might learn a new technique or a
better way of doing things that I might not know about.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Tutorial


> I've heard nothing but good things about Rick Harmon's tutorial from
> www.blind-geek-zone.net. I haven't heard the tutorial myself, as I was
> already a proficient GW user by the time it came out, but as I say, I've
> heard nothing but good things about this tutorial.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
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>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, JardataMailServicesBox wrote:
>
>> Hello List!
>>
>> I recently purchased Goldwave.  I have also downloaded and installed the
>> manual; however, I would like to get my hands on a tutorial or book for
>> Goldwave similar to what Jonathan Mosen did on Soundforge years ago.  I
>> definitely learned from this type of tutorial, as it contains a live do 
>> it and
>> show format for Soundforge.  Such a tutorial on Goldwave would get me 
>> started
>> on using the program.  I'm looking for a step-by-step approach (start to
>> finish).  Any info on podcasts on the topic would also be useful.
>>
>> James Robinson
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Re: Total Recorder, any more news about Version 7?

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, that's another example.

On 05/03/2008, at 2:37 PM, Gary Wood wrote:

> You can start recording a TV program at 10 p.m., and the show is one  
> hour
> long, and then start watching that program at 10-30 p.m., while the  
> show is
> being recorded.

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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread tickpub
Right On, that is what I wanted to say but you beat me to it, great an
good for this group!
MMM 
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:39 -0600 Chris Skarstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi
> 
> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is 
> 
> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use 
> it, 
> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole 
> lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone, 
> because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer 
> 
> files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because 
> 
> you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software 
> 
> interfaces for transfering files.
> 
> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> >You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
> >On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> >
> > > I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does 
> have a
> > > fast
> > > forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation 
> circle
> > > down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the 
> current
> > > file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if 
> you jump
> > > to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
> > > connected
> > > to the computer.
> > >
> > > albert griffith wrote:
> > >> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
> > >> ability to
> > >> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer 
> when
> > >> this
> > >> function is called for.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: zenstone question
> > >>
> > >> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you 
> have
> > >> the
> > >> latest firmware.
> > >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place 
> in a
> > >>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come 
> back to
> > >>> the
> > >>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only 
> jump
> > >>> from
> > >>> file to file.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> ]
> > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> > >>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > >>> Subject: zenstone question
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is 
> the
> > >>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which 
> has the
> > >>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work 
> with.
> > >>> You
> > >>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, 
> you only
> > >>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> > >>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web 
> site and
> > >>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> > >>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the 
> less
> > >>> expensive and more useable one instead.
> > >>> Take care and that is what I know
> > >>> MMM
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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread Bruce Toews
I'm not trying to start an argument, just to be educated. What makes the 
quality of its rips better than, say, Easy CD-DA Extractor?

bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Nick G wrote:

> Might I recommend that those who can, join this class.  I do not need it,
> and no I will not be teaching it, but I do know how to use Exact Audio Copy,
> and for sheer quality of rips, there is no CD extractor program finer.
> None.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC-Audio" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:27 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Exact Audio Copy Class
>
>
>> To join this class you will need to be a supporting member of
>> www.vipconduit.com.  -Steve.
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Tuesday, March 18
>> Attention VIPConduit Supporting Members
>>
>> Dennis, Startbutton, invites you to join him for a new class beginning
>> on Tuesday, March 18, at 9:00PM Eastern, in Dennis's Classroom.
>> Below you will find a description of the Exact Audio Copy Class.
>> You do not need to register ahead of time.
>>
>> Learning Exact Audio Copy.
>>
>> Time: 9:00PM Eastern
>>
>> Location: Dennis's Classroom
>>
>> Number of classes 2 to 4.
>>
>> Experience level intermediate.
>>
>> Blind friendliness level, 8 points out of a possible 10 points.
>>
>> This class is open to supporting members of VIPConduit.
>>
>> Exact audio copy may be the most accurate CD ripping and burning package
>> that I have ever used in the last ten years.
>>
>> The latest addition of this program has several improvements over the
>> earlier version that I reviewed up on the tutorial section of the VIP
>> conduit web site.
>>
>> You no longer have to manually set up the program to get the best
>> settings for the ripper.
>> This should significantly shorten the learning curve on an extremely
>> cool program.
>>
>> Here is a list of the subjects we will be covering during this class.
>>
>> 1. Installation
>>
>> 2. Setup using the setup wizard.
>>
>> 3. Ripping are first CD.
>>
>> 3,A. Retrieving CD info from the CDDB data base.
>>
>> 3,B. Talking about what keys to use to rip your first CD.
>>
>> 3,C. Selecting and unselecting tracks to be ripped in the list of
>> tracks.
>>
>> 3,d. Saving your tracks to the hard drive.
>>
>> 4. Burning are first CD.
>>
>> 4,A. Loading up the CD lay out editor.
>>
>> 4,B. Selecting the tracks you want to burn to CD.
>>
>> 4,C. Starting the burning process
>>
>> 4,d. Closing the CD lay out editor.
>>
>> 5. Copying a CD.
>>
>> 5,a. Saving a copy of the image and q sheet to be used in burning the
>> CD.
>>
>> 5,b. Once again loading the layout editor.
>>
>> 5,c. Loading the image and q sheet in to the layout editor for burning
>> to CD.
>>
>> 5,D. Burning the q sheet and image to the CD.
>>
>> Special note:  This program only works with audio CD's.
>>
>> It will not burn data CDs or DVD disks.
>>
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, if, while listening to a file,  you just press the wheel once, 
it'll skip to the next file. If you hold the edge of the wheel down, and 
keep holding it down, you'll hear the player fast forward through the 
current file. I don't think the repeat key will change this behavior. I 
think it just determines which file you'll jump to.

albert griffith wrote:
> I'm going to try to update the firmware but are you saying that pressing the
> wheel for a short time skips to another file while holding it longer moves
> through the present one?  Also does the position of the repeat switch effect
> this feature?  thanks 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:11 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> no that's not true.  It works as I said here on my zen stone.  either you
> are doing something wrong or maybe you have an older firmware?
>
> Rick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:52 PM
> Subject: RE: zenstone question
>
>
> Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
> file on it that might work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:44 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
> left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
> playing file.
>
> Rick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: zenstone question
>
>
> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
> won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
> also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: zenstone question
>
> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
> unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
> instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
> software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
> the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
> you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
> and more useable one instead.
> Take care and that is what I know
> MMM
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Re: USB soundcard

2008-03-05 Thread Bobcat
Hi Brent.  Thanks for that tip.  I always wondered what "do not map through 
this device" was for.

I was staying away from USB sound devices because of their tendency to take 
over as the default sound device.  So, I'm happy to hear there is a way to 
prevent this.

Bob

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> There should be an option in device manager for the device. On my headset
> it's called do not map through this device, and checking that makes it 
> never
> become default unless you tell it to. It's a little buried in there under
> USB audio device, properties, and USB audio device again for some reason.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC-Audio" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:43 AM
> Subject: USB soundcard
>
>
>> Hi
>> I recently bought a USB sound input and output device in order to take 
>> the
>> output of a mixer directly into the computer digitising it at the same
>> time. I found that it took over my computer and I could not hear jaws,
>> etc. Even after going into Sounds and audio in the control panel and
>> trying to set it up as normal I still couldn't find it reliable.
>> Could someone recommend a good USB soundcard which has inputs, outputs 
>> and
>> if possible SP/Dif and optical sockets?
>> Regards.
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Re: Amadeus Pro: this software just keeps getting better

2008-03-05 Thread Sunshine
wouldnt mac software work on windows using a mac /windows emelator?

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro: this software just keeps getting better


yes indeed! As I said earlier, I meant to sit down and explore
everything that Goldwave has to offer but there's been too much going
on here. I would like to see a "pre-recording buffer" or similar
option included in Amadeus Pro but I suppose at $40.00 per licence you
can't or shouldn't expect everything .

On 05/03/2008, at 7:10 PM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> For Windows, Gold Wave will also allow for the choosing of a date
> and time
> for recording. It doesn't allow for multiple timed schedules, as your
> program seems to do, but it is nice to be able to set up a recording
> time
> for days in advance.
>
> Bruce

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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Bobcat
Michael.  Are you able to reliably navigate the menus on the Zen Stone Plus? 
Can you get to the voice recorder and FM tuner?

I read the manual but it wasn't clear how the menu structure works, if it 
wraps, or remembers weather you left off, etcetera.

Bob

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> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
> unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on
> top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need
> any software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it
> into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
> you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
> and more useable one instead.
> Take care and that is what I know
> MMM
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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Only two words to say in response to this, "HERE HERE".

On 06/03/2008, at 12:45 PM, Nick G wrote:

> Might I recommend that those who can, join this class.  I do not  
> need it,
> and no I will not be teaching it, but I do know how to use Exact  
> Audio Copy,
> and for sheer quality of rips, there is no CD extractor program finer.
> None.

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