RE: sf9 and the arrows.
Hi Curtis, I am repeating myself but as I say, I have never edited this way. I've always used the arrow keys when Sound Forge is not playing. So I haven't tried this. If it doesn't work for you, I doubt it would work for me. In your original message to which I replied, I didn't realise that you were talking about the arrow keys not working in playback, you only said the arrow keys didn't work, hence the confusion. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 3:14 p.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: sf9 and the arrows. Hi Jonathan. I heard in your "forging ahead" tutorial, you lauded the fact that the arrows in sound forge 4.5, and at the time 5.0 also move you forward and backward while the file is playing. In later versions, the "q" (loop playback function had to be turned on for it to work, but it did until sf9 on my computer. I mean, simple, right? Why did Sony disable such a feature? I've been using the right/left arrows as changed by the zoom ratio for 5 years since I bought sf5 (when there was a $99 sale for it) and for some reason, my sf9 will not move the spot where the file is playing audibly any more. Like winamp, right left arrow moves the place where the file is playing, like Studio Recorder, why not, any more, Sound Forge? Page up, page down also moved the cursor larger amounts with the larger zoom ratios just as right left arrow did, but you know all this, my question is does it work on your computer, or not? If it does, then there is something definitely wrong with either (1) my configuration or (2) my download was corrupted when I got version 9.0C of the software. Thanks! :) Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > like navigating the record dialog? > - Original Message - > From: Jonathan Mosen > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:07 PM > Subject: RE: Recording in Vista > > > Well, that's quite a broad question. For me, it works quite well for > basic > editing, applying of affects etc, using the keyboard functions. But if > you > have any specific tasks in mind I can try to be more specific. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of GianniP46 > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2007 2:12 p.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > > Jonathan, As the Jaws Guru, can you please give us some tips on using SF > with Jaws without script support >- Original Message - >From: Jonathan Mosen >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:23 AM >Subject: RE: Recording in Vista > > >Hi, I'm using version 9 without any scripts. > >Jonathan > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of GianniP46 >Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 2:02 p.m. >To: PC Audio Discussion List >Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > >Hi Jonathan, >What Version of Sound Forge with what scripts are you using? > - Original Message - > From: Jonathan Mosen > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:31 PM > Subject: RE: Recording in Vista > > > Hi Samuel, this is absolutely not the case. I use Sound Forge and > Studio > Recorder to record all kinds of things in Windows Vista, and they > work >very > well. Some sound card drivers are apparently better than others, but > you >get > that with new operating systems until things sort themselves out. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins > Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2007 8:12 a.m. > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Subject: Recording in Vista > > Hello, I believe you can't record in Vista without the Freecorder > toolbar. > Could you please send the article that was posted on the list to me? > I > was > also wondering if the creative soundcards will record with What you > Hear >in > Goldwave in Vista. Thanks. > Samuel Wilkins > Email > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype Cleverclogs6953 > MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A O L Instant > Messenger > Samuel4851 > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. >
Re: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward?
Hi Albert, You might also try Foobar2000, www.foobar2000.com. Unlike Winamp, it has a standard user interface with pulldown menus. You fast forward and rewind with the cursor keys, pressing them together with the control key will jump one minute backward or forward. Great program! <*** Michael Lang ***> You wrote: > I've reinstalled the program, made sure I was in the main window and all > windows were closed and still I can neither fast forward, set time markers > or jump to relative time with any degree of accuracy. Any thoughts? I'm > running Vista. > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Braille CD-Rs
I have seen those. You couldn't tell. I did eventually figure out that there was a Very slight difference on the ones I had, but I don't use them all that often and I have to relearn each time. - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Braille CD-Rs Wow, never have seen those, . that'd be a problem telling which side was the label unless it was rough or something. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: "Rick Alfaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Braille CD-Rs Yes, generally speaking that is true but I'll never forget the spool of cdrs I bought once a few years ago where the little raised circle was actually on both sides. Talk about annoying! (grin) I think I wound up giving them to one of my kids. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Braille CD-Rs Look at any cd! (almost any, probably 99 percent). The side which has the little protuberance of a ring, that is the data side or the side which faces down that which the laser looks at. It is the opposite side from the label. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Braille CD-Rs > It's the up side when you play the disc. The down side is where the > information is. > > - Original Message - > From: Claude Everett > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:38 PM > Subject: RE: Braille CD-Rs > > > Hmmm! Not being able to see the print label, is that the rougher side? > That doesn't get in the way of the playing mechanism? You don't use > standard Dymo tape I'm sure, it's more like the thin peal off clear > adhesive, Right? > Regards, > Claude Everett > American By Chance , Californian by Choice. > Every one has a disability, Some, are more aware of it than others. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:14 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Braille CD-Rs > > Hello once again Claud, > You place the brail lable on the lable side of the CD. > It is usally the side that's facing you when you open the case. >John Price. > - Original Message - > From: "Claude Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:09 PM > Subject: RE: Braille CD-Rs > > > > So, Where do you place the Braille laminate on the disc? > > > > > > Claude Everett > > American By Chance , Californian by Choice. > > Every one has a disability, Some, are more aware of it than others. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:19 AM > > To: PC Audio Discussion List > > Subject: Re: Braille CD-Rs > > > > High Claude, > > That would happen for one reason, to much moister being in the air. > > But however, I haven't had that problen in the 15 years that I've been > > doing > > this. > > John Price. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Claude Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:12 AM > > Subject: RE: Braille CD-Rs > > > > > >> In the spindle hole area? top or bottom? What happens when or if the > >> adhesive label comes off the disc? > >> > >> > >> Claude Everett > >> American By Chance , Californian by Choice. > >> Every one has a disability, Some, are more aware of it than others. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P > >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:39 AM > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: Braille CD-Rs > >> > >> High Bobcat, this is John. > >> That sounds like a neat idea. > >> However, ever cense the early ninetys whitch is when I lost my > >> eyesite, I've been using a brail labler and olheatsive labling tape to > >> label my CDs. > >> I would not just lable the cases, I would lable the CDs too as well. > >> But if they have an idea that's better then mine, then I'm all ears. > >> John Price. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "PC audio discussion l
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site perhaps? Regards, Frankie V. * VirusCheck 1.2 - For your protection, this message has been scanned and been found to be free of: viruses, worms, trojans, and right wing politics * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan eloquently stated you pay for what you get. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >I think I'd give it 4 out of 5. > I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its > antenna. I was getting interference to my wireless network which the > filter > seemed to clear up. > The range however is very good and the sound is quite good. Bass response > is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding. > I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it. > In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it > very > accessible and quite easy to use. > The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful. > To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from > the > others turns the unit on and off. If the unit is off press and hold the > button for a second or so and it will turn on. To turn it off you need to > press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds. > The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down > button as you'd expect. > The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable. > The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with > any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range. With a > whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away > (about > 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile. > > That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit. > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion >> of >> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there >> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the >> unit >> more accessible? >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the >>>buttons >>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping. Of course >>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas >>> Jonathan >>> was in New Zealand. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete with a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply that works with 120 or 240 VAC sources. All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the back of the unit, and you are on the air! Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more than one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you get. I would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet your requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified otherwise it would have to be licenced. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters > How much do one of these go for, and what's the range? > How many watts do they put out > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM > transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at > http://www.wavemach.com. > > I purchased one of these and am thril
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
OK, I got the model number now. What modifications were they able to make for you on that transmitter? Regards, Frankie V. * VirusCheck 1.2 - For your protection, this message has been scanned and been found to be free of: viruses, worms, trojans, and right wing politics * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russell Bourgoin Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:32 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Hi Jonathan, I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any info is surely appreciated. Rusty > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- > couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM >transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at >http://www.wavemach.com. > >I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the >construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in >short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that >allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added >small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at >the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. > >So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a >look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what >you pay for though. > >Jonathan > > >- Original Message - >From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM >Subject: Accessible FM transmitters > > > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well with > > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+ > > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the > > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. > > > > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options > > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. > > > > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems > > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I don't > > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy > > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents. > > > > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise. > > Jason > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: > > 9/9/2007 10:17 AM > > > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 01/09/2007 > > 4:20 PM > > > > > > > >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >__ NOD32 2522 (20070911) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > >__ NOD32 2522 (20070911) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "For everything that lives is holy, life delights in life." (William Blake) Check out my site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Try going to: www.fmamplifiers.com - Original Message - From: "Frankie V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters > Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site > perhaps? > > Regards, > Frankie V. > > * VirusCheck 1.2 - For your protection, this message has been scanned and > been found to be free of: viruses, worms, trojans, and right wing politics > * > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Bob Seed > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan > eloquently stated you pay for what you get. > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >>I think I'd give it 4 out of 5. >> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its >> antenna. I was getting interference to my wireless network which the >> filter >> seemed to clear up. >> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good. Bass >> response >> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding. >> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it. >> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it >> very >> accessible and quite easy to use. >> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful. >> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from >> the >> others turns the unit on and off. If the unit is off press and hold the >> button for a second or so and it will turn on. To turn it off you need >> to >> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds. >> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the >> down >> button as you'd expect. >> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable. >> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with >> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range. With >> a >> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away >> (about >> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile. >> >> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion >>> of >>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are >>> there >>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the >>> unit >>> more accessible? >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the buttons for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping. Of course shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas Jonathan was in New Zealand. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes > complete > with > a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power > supply > that > works with 120 or 240 VAC sources. > > All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on > the > back of the unit, and you are on the air! > > Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more > than > one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you > get. > I > would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details > on > pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet > your > requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified > otherwise > it > would have to be licenced. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM > Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range? >> How many watts do they put out >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>
Re: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward?
Hi Albert, when you try to fast foreword, try (alt tab) first, may be its lost focus. - Original Message - From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: RE: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? > Pressing the right arrow worked for me until the other day, smile. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of David Reynolds > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:00 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? > > Pressing right-arrow does it when I just tried. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith > Sent: 12 September 2007 00:58 > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? > > I've reinstalled the program, made sure I was in the main window and all > windows were closed and still I can neither fast forward, set time markers > or jump to relative time with any degree of accuracy. Any thoughts? > I'm > running Vista. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: > 10/09/2007 17:43 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: > 10/09/2007 17:43 > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ NOD32 2521 (20070911) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward?
Or, control tab. - Original Message - From: "Arthur Barney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? > Hi Albert, > when you try to fast foreword, try (alt tab) first, may be its lost focus. > > - Original Message - > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:27 PM > Subject: RE: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? > > >> Pressing the right arrow worked for me until the other day, smile. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of David Reynolds >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:00 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? >> >> Pressing right-arrow does it when I just tried. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith >> Sent: 12 September 2007 00:58 >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: How to make winamp 5.35 pro fast forward? >> >> I've reinstalled the program, made sure I was in the main window and all >> windows were closed and still I can neither fast forward, set time >> markers >> or jump to relative time with any degree of accuracy. Any thoughts? >> I'm >> running Vista. >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: >> 10/09/2007 17:43 >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: >> 10/09/2007 17:43 >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> __ NOD32 2521 (20070911) Information __ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recording in Vista
I'm still using 6 as well here, and i figure if it works for me, does what I want it to, there's really no sense in upgrading., At 11:22 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: >Curtis, > >I , too, am using XP Home SP2! I haven't even installed SF 9, because of >the problems, that you have been having! I am still using version 6, at >this time. I will write back, off list, to discuss this with you! > >Regards, > >-Mac- >- Original Message - >From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:44 PM >Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > > >Actually I am recording in XP home SP2, and for some reason Jonathan can get >the sound to skip forward and backward using the cursor (arrow) keys, but I >don't know how he does it, because no matter how I try, it will not here. I >know that in earlier SF versions that if you press the q for loop, then the >cursor will move the point of where you're listening while it's playing, but >not in sf9 here. why oh why and, oh why would they take that wonderful >feature away? > > > >Curtis Delzer > > >- Original Message - >From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:08 PM >Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > > > > Curtis, > > > > BTW, have you contacted Sony about this? Later today, I could go through > > the process necessary to rattle their cage, as it were, a little bit, if > > you > > like! I know that Jim Snowbarger has had little success, with this, but, > > it > > might be worth another try! > > > > Regards, > > > > -Mac- > > - Original Message - > > From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:17 AM > > Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > > > > > > It's been my complaint with SF9 since the outset, arrow keys do not move > > the > > cursor--please Jonathan, help us out on this one and suggest what can be > > done if you're not suffering from this sweeping change to Sound Forge. > > > > > > > > Curtis Delzer > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:58 AM > > Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > > > > > >> Several of use have been having keyboarding issues with SF9. When I have > >> a recorded file and I try to move within it for purposes of doing a > >> manual > >> cleanup, the arrow keys don't work as before. Have you noticed this? If > >> sok, how did you get around it? > >> Thanks. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Jonathan Mosen > >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:23 AM > >> Subject: RE: Recording in Vista > >> > >> > >> Hi, I'm using version 9 without any scripts. > >> > >> Jonathan > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> On Behalf Of GianniP46 > >> Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 2:02 p.m. > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: Recording in Vista > >> > >> Hi Jonathan, > >> What Version of Sound Forge with what scripts are you using? > >>- Original Message - > >>From: Jonathan Mosen > >>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > >>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:31 PM > >>Subject: RE: Recording in Vista > >> > >> > >>Hi Samuel, this is absolutely not the case. I use Sound Forge and > >> Studio > >>Recorder to record all kinds of things in Windows Vista, and they work > >> very > >>well. Some sound card drivers are apparently better than others, but > >> you > >> get > >>that with new operating systems until things sort themselves out. > >> > >>Jonathan > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins > >>Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2007 8:12 a.m. > >>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > >>Subject: Recording in Vista > >> > >>Hello, I believe you can't record in Vista without the Freecorder > >> toolbar. > >>Could you please send the article that was posted on the list to me? I > >> was > >>also wondering if the creative soundcards will record with What you > >> Hear > >> in > >>Goldwave in Vista. Thanks. > >>Samuel Wilkins > >>Email > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Skype Cleverclogs6953 > >>MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A O L Instant Messenger > >>Samuel4851 > >> > >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >>http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >>http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the frequency that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast beyond the recommended coverage area. . \ From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Hello Russell,this is John. > I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. > You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, and > hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. > This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted to. > Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run > it > out of my house. > But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt > amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. > The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. > The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. > This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about > obtaining. > Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. > John Price. > > - Original Message - > From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Hi Jonathan, >> >> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is >> high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you >> requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to >> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? >> >> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I >> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing >> the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the >> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so >> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios >> in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, >> altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any >> info is surely appreciated. >> >> Rusty >> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- >>> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM >>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at >>>http://www.wavemach.com. >>> >>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the >>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in >>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that >>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added >>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket >>>at >>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. >>> >>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth >>>a >>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get >>>what >>>you pay for though. >>> >>>Jonathan >>> >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM >>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> >>> > Hi all, >>> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well >>> > with >>> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast >>> > 150+ >>> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the >>> > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. >>> > >>> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply >>> > options >>> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. >>> > >>> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems >>> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I >>> > don't >>> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy >>> > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents. >>> > >>> > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise. >>> > Jason >>> > >>> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: >>> > 9/9/2007 10:17 AM >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> > http://www.pc-audio.org >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Internal Virus Database is out
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
High Bob, You can run a radio station from your home. And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm looking in to. And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier, there is no modification needed. You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna. It's strictly plug and play! But rest a sure, I will do things by the book. John Price. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules > governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 > watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the > frequency > that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. > The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than > adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not > responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast > beyond the recommended coverage area. . > \ > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Hello Russell,this is John. >> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, >> and >> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. >> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted >> to. >> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run >> it >> out of my house. >> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt >> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. >> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. >> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. >> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about >> obtaining. >> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. >> John Price. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >>> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is >>> high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you >>> requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to >>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? >>> >>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I >>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing >>> the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the >>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so >>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios >>> in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, >>> altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any >>> info is surely appreciated. >>> >>> Rusty >>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at http://www.wavemach.com. I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what you pay for though. Jonathan - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM Subject: Accessible FM transmitters > Hi all, > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well > with > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast > 150+ > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. > > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply > options > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. > > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it > seems > to be out of
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and regs. These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics Bulletin Board from which I copied this info. Hello All, After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", or many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is not to tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can decide on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I will welcome and acknowledge corrections. The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 meters. This is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses only on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One nanowatt is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically mentioned about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful information about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into believing that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output delivered to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field strengths in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt transmitter output power. If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look for NOUO and NAL): http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK but consider the information on the following links, especially with regard to the calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air. This is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC certified nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to be gained that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a kit from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit to less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an information sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a legal station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the regulations, but this is probably close enough. You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier attitude on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a change in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the market It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have read this, that you will do so knowing what is involved. Neil - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules > governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 > watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the > frequency > that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. > The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than > adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not > responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast > beyond the recommended coverage area. . > \ > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Hello Russell,this is John. >> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >> You ca
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
High Dave, I will take this to heart. After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license to use it. Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! This will make my research a hole lot more easier. John Price. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with > regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. > Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and > regs. > These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics > Bulletin > Board from which I copied this info. > > Hello All, > > After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for > it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", > or > many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, > explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is > not > to > tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so > those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can > decide > on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I > will welcome and acknowledge corrections. > > The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other > things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 > meters. > This > is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This > limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses > only > on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field > strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One > nanowatt > is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically > mentioned > about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful > information > about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into > believing > that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output > delivered > to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 > times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field > strengths > in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt > transmitter output power. > > If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look > for NOUO and NAL): > > http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ > > http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html > > You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed > operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK > but > consider > the information on the following links, especially with regard to the > calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: > > http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 > > http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 > > You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good > source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air. > This > is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the > rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC > certified > nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the > responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to > be > gained > that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a > kit > from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! > > I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit > to > less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an > information > sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a > legal > station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the > regulations, > but this is probably close enough. > > You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater > range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier > attitude > on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who > intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a > change > in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the > market > > It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have > read > this, that you will do so knowing what is involved. > > Neil > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules >> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over >> 1 >> watt requires a broadcast licence
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > High Dave, > I will take this to heart. > After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." > So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license > to > use it. > Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! > This will make my research a hole lot more easier. > John Price. > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >> regs. >> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >> Bulletin >> Board from which I copied this info. >> >> Hello All, >> >> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for >> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", >> or >> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, >> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >> not >> to >> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so >> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >> decide >> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >> I >> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >> >> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >> meters. >> This >> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses >> only >> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One >> nanowatt >> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >> mentioned >> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful >> information >> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >> believing >> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >> delivered >> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >> strengths >> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >> transmitter output power. >> >> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look >> for NOUO and NAL): >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >> >> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >> but >> consider >> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >> >> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >> >> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >> >> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good >> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >> air. >> This >> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >> the >> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >> certified >> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to >> be >> gained >> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a >> kit >> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! >> >> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit >> to >> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an >> information >> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a >> legal >> station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the >> regulations, >> but this is probably close enough. >> >> You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much >> greater >> range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier >> attitude >> on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who >> intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may resul
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
High Dave, I will take this to heart too! Thinks a hole bunch! John Price. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a > religious > organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats > legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I > understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is > impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Dave, >> I will take this to heart. >> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license >> to >> use it. >> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >> John Price. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >>> but >>> consider >>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >>> >>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >>> >>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >>> >>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a >>> good >>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >>> air. >>> This >>> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >>> the >>> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >>> certified >>> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >>> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to >>> be >>> gained >>> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a >>> kit >>> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! >>> >>> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit >>> to >>> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an >>> information >>> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a >>> legal
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! -Mac- - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > High Dave, > I will take this to heart. > After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." > So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license > to > use it. > Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! > This will make my research a hole lot more easier. > John Price. > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >> regs. >> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >> Bulletin >> Board from which I copied this info. >> >> Hello All, >> >> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for >> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", >> or >> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, >> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >> not >> to >> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so >> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >> decide >> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >> I >> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >> >> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >> meters. >> This >> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses >> only >> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One >> nanowatt >> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >> mentioned >> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful >> information >> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >> believing >> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >> delivered >> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >> strengths >> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >> transmitter output power. >> >> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look >> for NOUO and NAL): >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >> >> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >> but >> consider >> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >> >> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >> >> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >> >> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good >> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >> air. >> This >> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >> the >> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >> certified >> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to >> be >> gained >> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a >> kit >> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! >> >> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit >> to >> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an >> information >> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a >> legal >> station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the >> regulations, >> but this is probably close
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or millions like a commercial license. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the > U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! > > -Mac- > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a > religious > organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats > legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I > understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is > impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Dave, >> I will take this to heart. >> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license >> to >> use it. >> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >> John Price. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >>> but >>> consider >>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >>> >>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >>> >>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >>> >>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a >>> good >>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >>> air. >>> This >>> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >>> the >>> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >>> certified >>> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >>> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to >>> be >>> gained >>> that you will n
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
The following website should give you all of the information that you will need in obtaining a broadcast licence in the United States. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/lowpwr.html - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules > governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 > watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the > frequency > that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. > The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than > adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not > responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast > beyond the recommended coverage area. . > \ > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Hello Russell,this is John. >> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, >> and >> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. >> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted >> to. >> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run >> it >> out of my house. >> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt >> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. >> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. >> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. >> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about >> obtaining. >> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. >> John Price. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >>> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is >>> high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you >>> requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to >>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? >>> >>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I >>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing >>> the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the >>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so >>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios >>> in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, >>> altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any >>> info is surely appreciated. >>> >>> Rusty >>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at http://www.wavemach.com. I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what you pay for though. Jonathan - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM Subject: Accessible FM transmitters > Hi all, > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well > with > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast > 150+ > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. > > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply > options > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. > > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it > seems > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I > don't > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can > buy > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents. > >
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the lottery! There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that! -Mac- - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or millions like a commercial license. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the > U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! > > -Mac- > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a > religious > organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats > legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I > understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is > impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Dave, >> I will take this to heart. >> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license >> to >> use it. >> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >> John Price. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >>> but >>> consider >>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >>> >>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >>> >>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >>> >>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a >>> good >>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >>> air. >>> This >>> is not true unless you can, by some me
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
The transmitter that has been recommended on this list falls into the category of micro broadcasting. You can leagually push the emvelope of this little powerhouse without having the FCC cops come knocking on your door. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the > U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! > > -Mac- > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a > religious > organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats > legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I > understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is > impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Dave, >> I will take this to heart. >> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license >> to >> use it. >> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >> John Price. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >>> but >>> consider >>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >>> >>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >>> >>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >>> >>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a >>> good >>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >>> air. >>> This >>> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >>> the >>> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >>> certified >>> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Not me! Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the > lottery! > There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that! > > -Mac- > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or > millions like a commercial license. > - Original Message - > From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the >> U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! >> >> -Mac- >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a >> religious >> organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats >> legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I >> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is >> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! >> - Original Message - >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> High Dave, >>> I will take this to heart. >>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the >>> license >>> to >>> use it. >>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >>> John Price. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and regs. These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics Bulletin Board from which I copied this info. Hello All, After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", or many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is not to tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can decide on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I will welcome and acknowledge corrections. The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 meters. This is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses only on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One nanowatt is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically mentioned about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful information about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into believing that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output delivered to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field strengths in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt transmitter output power. If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look for NOUO and NAL): http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK but consider the information on the following links,
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Yeah, when I looked into it, I was told that there is the need to hire lawyers, familiar with the ins and outs, which gets beyond what that web site that Bob is talking about, contains, I think! One has to come up with a non profit entity, or not, depending on what one wants to do with it and how much time and capital one has to put into it; not for me, either! - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Not me! Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the > lottery! > There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that! > > -Mac- > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or > millions like a commercial license. > - Original Message - > From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the >> U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! >> >> -Mac- >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a >> religious >> organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats >> legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I >> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is >> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! >> - Original Message - >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> High Dave, >>> I will take this to heart. >>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the >>> license >>> to >>> use it. >>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >>> John Price. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and regs. These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics Bulletin Board from which I copied this info. Hello All, After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", or many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is not to tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can decide on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I will welcome and acknowledge corrections. The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 meters. This is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses only on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One nanowatt is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically mentioned about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful information about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into believing that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output delivered to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention fiel
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Sort of like flying an ultralight plane, eh? OK, I'm done with my part of this thread! - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters The transmitter that has been recommended on this list falls into the category of micro broadcasting. You can leagually push the emvelope of this little powerhouse without having the FCC cops come knocking on your door. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the > U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! > > -Mac- > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a > religious > organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats > legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I > understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is > impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Dave, >> I will take this to heart. >> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license >> to >> use it. >> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >> John Price. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >>> but >>> consider >>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >>> >>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >>> >>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >>> >>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a >>> good >>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >>> a
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this transmitter. You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most of us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is generated from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter meets their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent standards that have been set by the FCC. Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand dollar range. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with > regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. > Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and > regs. > These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics > Bulletin > Board from which I copied this info. > > Hello All, > > After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for > it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", > or > many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, > explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is > not > to > tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so > those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can > decide > on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I > will welcome and acknowledge corrections. > > The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other > things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 > meters. > This > is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This > limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses > only > on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field > strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One > nanowatt > is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically > mentioned > about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful > information > about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into > believing > that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output > delivered > to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 > times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field > strengths > in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt > transmitter output power. > > If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look > for NOUO and NAL): > > http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ > > http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html > > You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed > operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK > but > consider > the information on the following links, especially with regard to the > calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: > > http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 > > http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 > > You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good > source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air. > This > is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the > rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC > certified > nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the > responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to > be > gained > that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a > kit > from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! > > I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit > to > less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an > information > sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a > legal > station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the > regulations, > but this is probably close enough. > > You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater > range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier > attitude > on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who > intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules ma
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which most hobby units are not. That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to bother you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely you will be to have your transmitter called into question. The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else can hear it!). - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not > suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this > transmitter. > You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most > of > us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order > to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is > generated > from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a > transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a > formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter > meets > their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant > transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent > standards that have been set by the FCC. > Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal > transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand > dollar range. > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >> regs. >> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >> Bulletin >> Board from which I copied this info. >> >> Hello All, >> >> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for >> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", >> or >> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, >> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >> not >> to >> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so >> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >> decide >> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >> I >> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >> >> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >> meters. >> This >> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses >> only >> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One >> nanowatt >> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >> mentioned >> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful >> information >> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >> believing >> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >> delivered >> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >> strengths >> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >> transmitter output power. >> >> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look >> for NOUO and NAL): >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >> >> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >> but >> consider >> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >> >> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >> >> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >> >> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good >> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >> air. >> This >> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >> the >> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >> certified >> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations in the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of documentation in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered as being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is unprotected. -- Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > High Bob, > You can run a radio station from your home. > And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm > looking > in to. > And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier, > there is no modification needed. > You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna. > It's strictly plug and play! > But rest a sure, I will do things by the book. > John Price. > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules >> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over >> 1 >> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the >> frequency >> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another >> broadcaster. >> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than >> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not >> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast >> beyond the recommended coverage area. . >> \ >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Hello Russell,this is John. >>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, >>> and >>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. >>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted >>> to. >>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run >>> it >>> out of my house. >>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 >>> watt >>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. >>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. >>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. >>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about >>> obtaining. >>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. >>> John Price. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any info is surely appreciated. Rusty > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- > couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM >transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at >http://www.wavemach.com. > >I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the >construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in >short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that >allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added >small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna >socket >at >the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. > >So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely >worth >a >look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get >wh
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The lottery is for available FM frequencies in the United States, and those frequencies are very hard to find these days especially in urban areas. Digital radio will solve that problem in a few years. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Not me! Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation. > - Original Message - > From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the >> lottery! >> There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that! >> >> -Mac- >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >> Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or >> millions like a commercial license. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in >>> the >>> U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! >>> >>> -Mac- >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> >>> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a >>> religious >>> organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats >>> legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I >>> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is >>> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> High Dave, I will take this to heart. After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license to use it. Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! This will make my research a hole lot more easier. John Price. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least > with > regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. > Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and > regs. > These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics > Bulletin > Board from which I copied this info. > > Hello All, > > After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go > for > it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get > caught", > or > many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as > I, > explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent > is > not > to > tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information > so > those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can > decide > on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other > inaccuracies, > I > will welcome and acknowledge corrections. > > The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among > other > things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 > meters. > This > is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. > This > limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and > focuses > only > on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field > strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. > One > nanowatt > is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically > mentioned > about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any > meaningful > information > about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into > believing > that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output > delivered > to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about > 1400 > times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention > field >
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Seems to me I recall in Canada you can get a limited license for 1 watt under certain circumstances. That isn't true in the US though. Perhaps you can comment on that Bob? - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing > the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations > in > the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several > classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of > documentation > in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified > broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered as > being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is > unprotected. > -- Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Bob, >> You can run a radio station from your home. >> And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm >> looking >> in to. >> And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier, >> there is no modification needed. >> You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna. >> It's strictly plug and play! >> But rest a sure, I will do things by the book. >> John Price. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules >>> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over >>> 1 >>> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the >>> frequency >>> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another >>> broadcaster. >>> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than >>> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not >>> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast >>> beyond the recommended coverage area. . >>> \ >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Hello Russell,this is John. I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, and hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted to. Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run it out of my house. But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about obtaining. Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. John Price. - Original Message - From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Hi Jonathan, > > I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in > your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is > high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you > requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to > obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? > > I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I > bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing > the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the > barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so > they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios > in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, > altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any > info is surely appreciated. > > Rusty > > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- >> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM >>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at >>http://www.wavemach.com. >> >>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the >>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, >>in >>short, no c
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that I may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. . . - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which > most hobby units are not. > That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to > bother > you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely > you will be to have your transmitter called into question. > The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM > to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so > > Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits > around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else > can > hear it!). > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not >> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this >> transmitter. >> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most >> of >> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in >> order >> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is >> generated >> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a >> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a >> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter >> meets >> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant >> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent >> standards that have been set by the FCC. >> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal >> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand >> dollar range. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operat
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
I'm not sure about that particular situation but I know they fined Ramsey Electronics several thousand dollars a couple of years ago for selling transmitters that weren't part 15 compliant. You can no longer buy one of their for export transmitters and sign a form saying you will export it to a country where it is legal. The units in question were one wat, significantly over the part 15 limit but I'll bet there are hundreds of us around the country who own one! I wonder if you can still buy one of the transmitters you shave anywhere (except on Ebay maybe)? - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do > anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they > claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that > I > may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very > strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. . . > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which >> most hobby units are not. >> That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to >> bother >> you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely >> you will be to have your transmitter called into question. >> The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the >> FM >> to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so >> >> Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits >> around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else >> can >> hear it!). >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not >>> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this >>> transmitter. >>> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most >>> of >>> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in >>> order >>> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is >>> generated >>> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a >>> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a >>> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter >>> meets >>> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant >>> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent >>> standards that have been set by the FCC. >>> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal >>> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand >>> dollar range. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and regs. These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics Bulletin Board from which I copied this info. Hello All, After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", or many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is not to tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can decide on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I will welcome and acknowledge corrections. The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 meters. This is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses only on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One nanowatt is one one millionth of a
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
That is indeed true. It is my understanding that this falls under the category of a developmental or an occasional licence. The occasional licence allows one to broadcast small community events such as a charity walk or fishing festival. With this licence you can't sell advertising, but you can give credit to those sponsors that supported your event by donating food etc. The occasional licence has to be renewed every three months or so. Developmental licences are usually given out to community radio societies, schools, and not for profit organizations. I am not aware of broadcast licences being given out to individuals per say, but I do recall a special exemption being granted to an individual who wanted to operate a 1 watt developmental radio station on a first nations reserve For a Canadian prospective go to www.crtc.ca . . . . . . - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Seems to me I recall in Canada you can get a limited license for 1 watt > under certain circumstances. That isn't true in the US though. > Perhaps you can comment on that Bob? > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:19 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >>I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing >> the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations >> in >> the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several >> classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of >> documentation >> in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified >> broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered >> as >> being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is >> unprotected. >> -- Original Message - >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> High Bob, >>> You can run a radio station from your home. >>> And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm >>> looking >>> in to. >>> And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier, >>> there is no modification needed. >>> You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna. >>> It's strictly plug and play! >>> But rest a sure, I will do things by the book. >>> John Price. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the frequency that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast beyond the recommended coverage area. . \ From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Hello Russell,this is John. > I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. > You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, > and > hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. > This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted > to. > Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and > run > it > out of my house. > But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 > watt > amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. > The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. > The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. > This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about > obtaining. > Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. > John Price. > > - Original Message - > From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Hi Jonathan, >> >> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how hig
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
I remember reading that story. The loophole for Ramsey is that they will take no responsibility for any modification that is done to their transmitters after sale. It is my understanding that they will sell their products outside of the United States. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > I'm not sure about that particular situation but I know they fined Ramsey > Electronics several thousand dollars a couple of years ago for selling > transmitters that weren't part 15 compliant. > You can no longer buy one of their for export transmitters and sign a form > saying you will export it to a country where it is legal. > The units in question were one wat, significantly over the part 15 limit > but > I'll bet there are hundreds of us around the country who own one! > I wonder if you can still buy one of the transmitters you shave anywhere > (except on Ebay maybe)? > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do >> anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they >> claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think >> that >> I >> may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very >> strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. . . >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant >>> which >>> most hobby units are not. >>> That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to >>> bother >>> you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less >>> likely >>> you will be to have your transmitter called into question. >>> The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the >>> FM >>> to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so >>> >>> Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits >>> around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else >>> can >>> hear it!). >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this transmitter. You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most of us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is generated from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter meets their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent standards that have been set by the FCC. Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand dollar range. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least > with > regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. > Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and > regs. > These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics > Bulletin > Board from which I copied this info. > > Hello All, > > After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go > for > it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get > caught", > or > many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as > I, > explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent > is > not > to > tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information > so > those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can > decide > on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other > inaccuracies, > I > will welcome and
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
A 50 watt lo-power station can be put on the air for about 10 grand. This would of course include the cost of the transmitter, antenna, computer, and associated hardware and software. - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Yeah, when I looked into it, I was told that there is the need to hire > lawyers, familiar with the ins and outs, which gets beyond what that web > site that Bob is talking about, contains, I think! One has to come up > with > a non profit entity, or not, depending on what one wants to do with it and > how much time and capital one has to put into it; not for me, either! > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:19 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Not me! Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation. > - Original Message - > From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the >> lottery! >> There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that! >> >> -Mac- >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >> Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or >> millions like a commercial license. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in >>> the >>> U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! >>> >>> -Mac- >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> >>> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a >>> religious >>> organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats >>> legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I >>> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is >>> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> High Dave, I will take this to heart. After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license to use it. Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! This will make my research a hole lot more easier. John Price. - Original Message - From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least > with > regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. > Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and > regs. > These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics > Bulletin > Board from which I copied this info. > > Hello All, > > After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go > for > it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get > caught", > or > many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as > I, > explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent > is > not > to > tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information > so > those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can > decide > on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other > inaccuracies, > I > will welcome and acknowledge corrections. > > The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among > other > things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 > meters. > This > is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. > This > limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and > focuses > only > on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field > strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. > One >>
Re: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a CD
yes dvd is what i am talking about. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a CD >I have seen DVDs like that, but not CDS. > John Price. > > - Original Message - > From: "Walter Ramage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:48 AM > Subject: RE: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a > CD > > >> That's very unusual. In all the years I have been using CDs I have never >> once had that experience. The only thing I can suggest is if you have >> that >> experience again is to find the side with the groove and that will be the >> non playing surface. The groove is necessary for the CD recorder or >> Drive >> to identify the type of disc and then to calibrate itself. The only >> other >> thing I can think of is that in spindle tubs of CDS there is often a >> dummy >> disc at either end to protect the real discs and maybe you are feeling >> that >> dummy. Walter >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kenneth Suratt >> Sent: 11 September 2007 12:28 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of >> a CD >> >> >> some times I gat a cd with a raise circle on both sides. How can I tell >> the >> different? >> - Original Message - >> From: "Walter Ramage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:06 AM >> Subject: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a CD >> >> >>> Ok. Here's the best way to identify the playing surface and non playing >>> surface of a CD. Braille readers will be able to use their finger tips >>> but >>> for those who have sensitivity problems use your finger nail but very >>> carefully. Probably the easiest way to do this, if you are doing it for >>> the >>> first time is to place the disc in the case. From the centre of the >>> disc >>> slowly run your finger nail towards the outer edge of the disc. About >>> half >>> an inch from the spindle hole you will find a deep groove, your finger >>> nail >>> will pick this up. This is the non playing surface. Now if you turn >>> the >>> disc up the other way and again slowly and gently run your finger nail >>> from >>> the centre towards the outer edge about half an inch from the centre you >>> will find a ridge. Depending on the brand of the disc the ridge will >>> vary >>> in how pronounced it is but it is there and It is a ridge. This is the >>> playing surface. Once you get used to feeling it then you will know at >>> a >>> very brief touch which side is which. Walter. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> >> __ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.13/998 - Release Date: >> 9/10/2007 >> 8:48 AM >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours. But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters. Jonathan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
John also be aware of the royalty charges you will have to pay per song. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules > governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 > watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the > frequency > that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. > The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than > adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not > responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast > beyond the recommended coverage area. . > \ > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Hello Russell,this is John. >> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, >> and >> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. >> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted >> to. >> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run >> it >> out of my house. >> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt >> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. >> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. >> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. >> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about >> obtaining. >> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. >> John Price. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >>> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is >>> high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you >>> requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to >>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? >>> >>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I >>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing >>> the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the >>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so >>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios >>> in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, >>> altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any >>> info is surely appreciated. >>> >>> Rusty >>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at http://www.wavemach.com. I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what you pay for though. Jonathan - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM Subject: Accessible FM transmitters > Hi all, > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well > with > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast > 150+ > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. > > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply > options > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. > > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it > seems > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I > don't > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can > buy > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents. > > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise. > Jason > > No virus found in this outgo
Re: Accessible FM transmitters
Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big fat Smile) Matthew Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters > Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . > Here > anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power > of > 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for > any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group > reserve > the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are > fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station > identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three > hours. > But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on > those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters. > > Jonathan > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 2526 (20070912) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours. But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters. Jonathan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
audio Ejamming
I found a new program that allows musicians to hook up over the internet and jam together using either midi or audio plug-in stuff. Anyway I downloaded the software and signed up and so far it isn't very accessible. I'm a window-eyes user and have had lots of success with programs working out-of-the-box. Anyway I contacted the beta support team and that are interested. So if any of you have suggestions ; check out the program and write back to me and let me know what ideas you might have for them to improve there product for accessibility. We seem to have quite a good dialogue here and I could really use your guys' help. If you want more info reply to the topic or check out the program I think it is www.ejamming.org thanks bb Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
Um no I don't, I work in New Zealand. Except for US shows such as NFB, ACB, CSUN etc. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew2007 Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2007 5:07 p.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big fat Smile) Matthew Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters > Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . > Here > anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power > of > 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for > any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group > reserve > the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are > fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station > identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three > hours. > But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on > those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters. > > Jonathan > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 2526 (20070912) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Friday, 14 September 2007 1:20 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours. But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters. Jonathan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessible FM transmitters
Well, if the beer's good, I'm off the New Zealand, smile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Friday, 14 September 2007 1:20 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours. But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters. Jonathan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
