yes dvd is what i am talking about.
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Subject: Re: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a CD


>I have seen DVDs like that, but not CDS.
>  John Price.
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> From: "Walter Ramage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: RE: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a 
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>> That's very unusual.  In all the years I have been using CDs I have never
>> once had that experience.  The only thing I can suggest is if you have
>> that
>> experience again is to find the side with the groove and that will be the
>> non playing surface.  The groove is necessary for the CD recorder or 
>> Drive
>> to identify the type of disc and then to calibrate itself.  The only 
>> other
>> thing I can think of is that in spindle tubs of CDS there is often a 
>> dummy
>> disc at either end to protect the real discs and maybe you are feeling
>> that
>> dummy.  Walter
>>
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kenneth Suratt
>> Sent: 11 September 2007 12:28
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of
>> a CD
>>
>>
>> some times I gat a cd with a raise circle on both sides. How can I tell
>> the
>> different?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Walter Ramage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:06 AM
>> Subject: Identifying the playing surface and non playing surface of a CD
>>
>>
>>> Ok.  Here's the best way to identify the playing surface and non playing
>>> surface of a CD.  Braille readers will be able to use their finger tips
>>> but
>>> for those who have sensitivity problems use your finger nail but very
>>> carefully.  Probably the easiest way to do this, if you are doing it for
>>> the
>>> first time  is to place the disc in the case.  From the centre of the
>>> disc
>>> slowly run your finger nail towards the outer edge of the disc.  About
>>> half
>>> an inch from the spindle hole you will find a deep groove, your finger
>>> nail
>>> will pick this up.  This is the non playing surface.  Now if you turn 
>>> the
>>> disc up the other way and again slowly and gently run your finger nail
>>> from
>>> the centre towards the outer edge about half an inch from the centre you
>>> will find a ridge.  Depending on the brand of the disc the ridge will
>>> vary
>>> in how pronounced it is but it is there and It is a ridge.  This is the
>>> playing surface.  Once you get used to feeling it then you will know at 
>>> a
>>> very brief touch which side is which.  Walter.
>>>
>>>
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