Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare!
-Mac- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > High Dave, > I will take this to heart. > After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." > So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license > to > use it. > Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! > This will make my research a hole lot more easier. > John Price. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >> regs. >> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >> Bulletin >> Board from which I copied this info. >> >> Hello All, >> >> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for >> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", >> or >> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, >> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >> not >> to >> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so >> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >> decide >> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >> I >> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >> >> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >> meters. >> This >> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses >> only >> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One >> nanowatt >> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >> mentioned >> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful >> information >> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >> believing >> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >> delivered >> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >> strengths >> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >> transmitter output power. >> >> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look >> for NOUO and NAL): >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >> >> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >> >> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >> but >> consider >> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >> >> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >> >> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >> >> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good >> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >> air. >> This >> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >> the >> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >> certified >> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to >> be >> gained >> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a >> kit >> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! >> >> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit >> to >> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an >> information >> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a >> legal >> station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the >> regulations, >> but this is probably close enough. >> >> You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much >> greater >> range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier >> attitude >> on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who >> intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a >> change >> in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the >> market >> >> It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have >> read >> this, that you will do so knowing what is involved. >> >> Neil >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules >>> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over >>> 1 >>> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the >>> frequency >>> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another >>> broadcaster. >>> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than >>> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not >>> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast >>> beyond the recommended coverage area. . >>> \ >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> >>>> Hello Russell,this is John. >>>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >>>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, >>>> and >>>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. >>>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted >>>> to. >>>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and >>>> run >>>> it >>>> out of my house. >>>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 >>>> watt >>>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. >>>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. >>>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. >>>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about >>>> obtaining. >>>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. >>>> John Price. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Jonathan, >>>>> >>>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >>>>> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is >>>>> high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you >>>>> requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to >>>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? >>>>> >>>>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I >>>>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing >>>>> the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the >>>>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so >>>>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios >>>>> in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, >>>>> altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any >>>>> info is surely appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Rusty >>>>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- >>>>>> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM >>>>>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at >>>>>>http://www.wavemach.com. >>>>>> >>>>>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the >>>>>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, >>>>>>in >>>>>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that >>>>>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also >>>>>>added >>>>>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna >>>>>>socket >>>>>>at >>>>>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. >>>>>> >>>>>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely >>>>>>worth >>>>>>a >>>>>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get >>>>>>what >>>>>>you pay for though. >>>>>> >>>>>>Jonathan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM >>>>>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well >>>>>> > with >>>>>> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast >>>>>> > 150+ >>>>>> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the >>>>>> > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply >>>>>> > options >>>>>> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it >>>>>> > seems >>>>>> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I >>>>>> > don't >>>>>> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. 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