Safari with Mountain Lion
.Hi: I attempted to surf the web last night, but first I couldn't get the reader to work. I accidentally brought up a reading list and though it's now hidden, I can no longer get the shortcut keys to work except, ironically, the reader. What did I do and how do I undo it so that I can once again use Safari? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Not great with computers but since upgrading to mountain lion…
> Since installing Mountain lion's the hot keys in Safari and mail are acting > strangely. I can no longer use command L in Safari to open the address bar or > command and then and mail to start a new message. That's just a couple of > examples. Using dictation on the iPad so please forgive spelling errors. > :-) any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Right now my iPad is > my best friend. Wink -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari question please shortcut
Not a dumb question at all. Use command plus left or right bracket. They are right next to the P key. Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > or comand [ > > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online > stores. > > On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Command left arrow. >> On 10/08/2012, at 6:51 PM, Egbert wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari. >>> but that key seems not to work anymore. >>> i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley. >>> its kind of frustrating. >>> Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in >>> mountain lion in safari? >>> thanx Egbert >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac freezing
I had the same problem, especially when my Mac would wake up. It turned out that we had added a defective memory stick. On Aug 3, 2011, at 12:38 PM, james walton wrote: > hi, > > anyone having a problem where, > your mac will freeze if left on for a period of time. > no sound no voiceover? no nothing? > i hope someone can help me figure this one out. > thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: updates for Itunes and Iwork
What I discovered is that you have to hold down the VO keys now as you scroll with the arrow keys in any playlist. I'm having to do this in Mail even as I'm scrolling through the messages or I get a lot of stuff read to me that I don't want to hear and have never heard bbefore. If I hold the VO keys down I just hear what I want to while scrolling. On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yup, > > I have over 15,500 songs in iTunes and I'm not a happy camper. lol > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> Dono about IWorks, but man they really! broke the list view for larger >> libraries in ITunes. See my previous post for more detail. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:25 PM >> Subject: updates for Itunes and Iwork >> >> >>> In all the Lion excitement, people may have missed the updates to ITunes >>> and IWork that came out today. Both applications can now be run full screen >>> if you have Lion. No clue what bugs might have been fixed. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> motte...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?
I am seeing some delay, but also a lot of garbage that I don't want to hear as I scroll through the messages, even when I interact with a particular column such as subject. This behavior isn't always stable, meaning that sometimes, for no reason I can think of, it stops doing that and reads as it should. Pressing the VO keys while scrolling helps, but doesn't get rid of the problem. Sometimes I have a glorious mess. All of the settings look like they were in SL. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: > Hello, > > People on Twitter are reporting major sluggishness issues in Mail and other > areas. Are others seeing this? I upgraded this morning but then had to go to > work so will play later this evening. I am just curious what others are > seeing pertaining to this? > > Jeff > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Item Chooser Problem
I'm having the same issue, and I was addicted to the thing, especially when using Facebook or finding articles that the Reader couldn't. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote: > Oh dear. I love the item chooser, and just tried using it on a web page. I > tried typing a few letters in a row to narrow down the selection, but it just > acted like I typed one letter. Now it just seems unpredictable with multiple > letters. Interestingly, I tried it in mail and it worked as expected, so > perhaps it relates to Safari or Webkit. I did it with quick nav off, by the > way. > > - Austin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Turning off and on VO speech
Mine did this a while back and I had to have my husband restart my machine as I couldn't get the hot key to work. After the restart, it was fine. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Cakes wrote: > Hi folks, > > Help! > > First of all, every once and a while I somehow mute VO by simply accidentally > touching the track pad. I think the way to unmute VO on a 13" mbp is by > hitting the fourth button from the top right corner of the keyboard. Right? > But this time; and I think it happened one other time, I somehow shut off vO > speech altogether. Oh my! Hitting cmd F5 turned VO on but then it reported > that VO speech is off. Now I am unable to get VO to speak at all. Any help > is always appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The lion sleeps tonight
Am I missing some voice choices? I'm only finding Alex, Fred, Olivia and Vicki. I might be missing one or two, but only Alex sounds high quality to me. Are there others somewhere? I've looked in the default voices under speech and found nothing else. I also tried checking the voices with the VO/CMD/arrow keys and managed to crash mail. :) My computer knows when somebody that's almost computer illiterate is using it. :) Thanks. On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now > have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for > different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. > And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reason not to > upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion > compatible. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: > >> I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to >> download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for >> those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the >> benefits? >> >> I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. >> >> What happens if I don't download it? >> >> Brian Miller >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The lion sleeps tonight
Hi Donna; I found that you can scroll through your playlists by using VO/arrow keys. My husband who is sighted said that when I was using just the arrow keys as I used to do, the VO cursor wasn't keeping focus at all. As far as VO being sluggish, it takes forever and a day to unload and reload. I'm slowly figuring out my mail issue, but it's still a bit unstable. Just my thoughts. On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:02 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > I'm finding VO to be *very sluggish. It seems like its speaking items a good > half second after I initiate an action. > > I also don't seem to be able to close apps any more. When I think I've > closed an app, if I try and open it later, VO says "App x is running in the > background." I presume one has to close apps from the launchpad now or > something, but that seems much more cumbersome than just being able to press > Cmd-Q. > > iTunes is *ungodly slow, honestly, it's as bad as being on a Windows machine. > And you don't seem to be able to scroll down through your list of songs any > more, though this may be part of the speed issue. > > Lastly, VO doesn't seem to track very well. For example, when I open an app, > I'm taken to the desktop, and have to perform a Cmd-tab to actually get > myself into the app. > > Lastly, I installed Samantha, but gave up on her. I'm now back with > Victoria. Samantha was not indicating sentence endings at all. If there was > a period, she just went right on reading with no pause or inflection, as > though the period wasn't even there. > As I've said, I was gone most of last night, so haven't had a ton of time to > sort through things yet. But those are some of the things I'm not liking at > the moment. As I think Zack said, hopefully there will be an update that > will address some of these things. > Best, > Donna > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Ah. >> >> I've caught this thread in the middle. besides Mail, what bad experiences >> are you having? >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Well, that is why I said at this point. But so far, I haven't changed my >>> mind. The features you mentioned are nice, but not sure they outweigh the >>> disadvantages I've seen so far. Again, JMO. >>> Donna >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:22 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi Donna, What about activities? I think the ability to create a voiceover profile for individual apps is a really good feature. And being able to navigate the web with 1 letter navigation when using quick nav. So instead of pressing VO command H to go to the next heading for example, you can just press the letter H. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > At this point, the only reason I see for upgrading is the voices in other > languages. Just my opinion, of course. > Best, > Donna > > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: > >> I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought >> to >> download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for >> those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the >> benefits? >> >> I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. >> >> What happens if I don't download it? >> >> Brian Miller >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Turning off and on VO speech
Command f5 should work to toggle VO on and off. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > I am wondering if there is a command from the keyboard to toggle speech on > and off without using the trackpad. > Original message: >> Hi, > >> Yup, > >> You can turn the trackpad commander off by holding down control and option >> an placing 2 fingers on the trackpad and turning them counter clockwise. >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Cakes wrote: > >>> Hi Ricardo and all, > >>> Thanks for helping me out once again. You guys are great! > >>> Is there a hotkey for turning off and on the trackpad? Great idea of >>> course. > >>> Johnny "Cakes" Chilelli > >>> On 7/21/2011 12:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, > And you might want to just turn trackpad commander off when not using it to prevent accidental gestures. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Cakes wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Help! > > First of all, every once and a while I somehow mute VO by simply > accidentally touching the track pad. I think the way to unmute VO on a > 13" mbp is by hitting the fourth button from the top right corner of the > keyboard. Right? But this time; and I think it happened one other time, > I somehow shut off vO speech altogether. Oh my! Hitting cmd F5 turned > VO on but then it reported that VO speech is off. Now I am unable to get > VO to speak at all. Any help is always appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > Georges Zeinoun > Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE > Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 > Mobile: +46707567315 > E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The lion sleeps tonight
Thanks. I will have to give it a try. On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:13 PM, David Tanner wrote: > Go to System Preferences and then go to Speech preferences. Then find the > button for customize and you will see a huge list of voices. Go through the > list and find one you like and check that one. After that tab until you get > to the "OK" button. Press the "OK" button and you will get a prompt as to > whether you want to download the voices now or later. Answer that you want > to download them now, and they will start downloading. The file is pretty > big and will take over 10 to 12 minutes at a fairly fast internet download > speed. When the download completes you are prompted as to whether to install > the voices now or later. Let the install take place and it will install all > the new voices and languages. > > Now you can go set a new default system voice and it will take the place of > Alex. > > - Original Message - From: "carlene knight" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: The lion sleeps tonight > > > Am I missing some voice choices? I'm only finding Alex, Fred, Olivia and > Vicki. I might be missing one or two, but only Alex sounds high quality to > me. Are there others somewhere? I've looked in the default voices under > speech and found nothing else. I also tried checking the voices with the > VO/CMD/arrow keys and managed to crash mail. :) My computer knows when > somebody that's almost computer illiterate is using it. :) Thanks. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now >> have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for >> different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. >> And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reason not to >> upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion >> compatible. >> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: >> >>> I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to >>> download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for >>> those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the >>> benefits? >>> >>> I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. >>> >>> What happens if I don't download it? >>> >>> Brian Miller >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vo not remembering my place in text edit, or scrolling to specific points in documents.
Sometimes I On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:05 PM, johns.kary wrote: > Hi Zack, > I am interacting with the document. > I just Went throughand unchecked andd rechecked some of the VO setting > check boxes, and it seams to have resolved it self. > Well for the moment anyway. > Thanks for the help though. > Kari. > On 22/07/2011, at 2:33 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Kari, >> This is a case of not interacting with the edit area I believe. If you do >> that VO will properly track the cursor position. It isn't typically >> necessary unless you want to do something fancy like reading the entire >> document, as here. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:12 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I updated to lion last night, and now in text edit it won't move to a >>> point in a document or remember my place. >>> If I wanted to move to a specific point in a document I used to just be >>> able to do CMD F type in the word I was looking for and it would jump to >>> that point. Now if I do that or even scroll through using the aero keys, >>> it says what the cursorsmoving over, but as soon as I try to read from >>> that point with VO A or even just the up down aero keys, it jumps strait >>> back to the top of the document. Same thing if I move out of text edit >>> with CMD tab and come back, it's incredibly frustrating! >>> >>> I've been through the VO utility, and everything that should be checked >>> seams to be, but it has been quite a while since I've had to have anything >>> to do with those settings so I could quite easily be forgetting something. >>> >>> Can anyone shed some light on this? It's making life tricky to say the >>> least. :) >>> Thanks, >>> Kari. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: yet another VO feature broken?
I can't just press VO/j to jump from an open message to the messages table either. The conversation method of looking at messages is ok, but again, more cumbersome as you have to open and close each message. What a pain not having that option. Things should get easier, not harder. I'm whining, so I'll shut up, but ur! On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though. > Best, > Donna > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Donna, >> THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it doesn't >> seem to work under the new layout at least. There is always the official >> search box in the Mail toolbar, and other ways to find messages which have >> been improved in Lion. See Mail Help. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Previously, when I wanted to find a message from a specific person, I could >>> just type the first couple of letters of their name and I would be taken to >>> a message from that sender. This no longer works on my machine. Can >>> someone confirm? >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
I take back my previous post regarding mail
Somehow the jump command works now. I'm embarrassed. Now maybe if I complain about the VO layout in ITunes, it will start working for me perfectly too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Hotspots
Hi: I know that the hotspots were a bit unreliable in SL but now they don't work at all in Lion, and the hotspot chooser shows them as inactive. I had two of them set for ITunes that actually stuck, and I miss them. How do I enable them once again, as I have no idea how they were disabled in the first place? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speech loss
I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion. If I leave my computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not work. It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well. Were you using your computer when speech went away? On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote: > Hi Mark > > Speech not restored Cmd5, f10 did not help. > > Best > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote: > >> Hello Joe, >> >> You wrote: >> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?" >> >> Joe, >> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac? If so, what was the >> problem? >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM >> To: MacVisionaries >> Subject: speech loss >> >> hi list >> >> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please? >> >> thank you in advance >> >> best >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Another mail question with Lion
Hi: I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how to highlight each header. Before, I could open the message with return, shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could select it. Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor on any particular heading. It's been a heck of a long time since I attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, and if so, I apologize. I've got mail in classic view. Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speech loss
I am glad you figured it out. I've yet to reset my pram, though I am afraid I'll let up on the keys a split second too late or something and screw things up. I think that might help my problem though. On Aug 1, 2011, at 6:08 AM, joseph wrote: > hi > > finally with a help of a sighted friend i managed to get speech back. > presumably, i must have selected sound flower by accident in both system > preferences and voiceover utilities. > > best > On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59, carlene knight wrote: > >> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion. If I leave my >> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not >> work. It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well. Were you using >> your computer when speech went away? >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote: >> >>> Hi Mark >>> >>> Speech not restored Cmd5, f10 did not help. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Joe, >>>> >>>> You wrote: >>>> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?" >>>> >>>> Joe, >>>> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac? If so, what was the >>>> problem? >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM >>>> To: MacVisionaries >>>> Subject: speech loss >>>> >>>> hi list >>>> >>>> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please? >>>> >>>> thank you in advance >>>> >>>> best >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speech loss
Hi: I just used the screen saver that dimmed the screen; the default one, but suspecting that, I turned it off to no avail. I haven't had the problem today though as soon as I post this I probably will. That's usually what happens. :) I think that it was because the Log Me In program was not hidden. On a different note, I discovered quite by accident that control+left arrow brings up the dashboard. I couldn't figure out why it kept popping up. Make sure you press that option key good and solidly. :) F12 still works also. I have a feeling it has to do with that spaces and applications thing. On Aug 1, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Do you guys use screen savers? Maybe this is the problem? I'm just taking a > shot in the dark here. After waking my MBP, speech comes back right away. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Same here, I constantly loose speech if the Mac Book is left. > > Kawal. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion. If I leave my >> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not >> work. It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well. Were you using >> your computer when speech went away? >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote: >> >>> Hi Mark >>> >>> Speech not restored Cmd5, f10 did not help. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Joe, >>>> >>>> You wrote: >>>> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?" >>>> >>>> Joe, >>>> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac? If so, what was the >>>> problem? >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM >>>> To: MacVisionaries >>>> Subject: speech loss >>>> >>>> hi list >>>> >>>> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please? >>>> >>>> thank you in advance >>>> >>>> best >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisi
Re: Another mail question with Lion
Hello Simon, and thanks for the reply. I tried doing this, just now, but the only header that shows is hide. I can't get details or anything like that to come up as I used to. I'll try it again but this is frustrating. Thanks again .On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > Hello, > > I've just tried to do this. This is what I did. > > I vo+left arrow to the message header area. I then interacted with it. Once > you interact, I moved with vo+right once and landed on "details" link. > Voiceover actually says here "link". I pressed vo+spacebar on this link. This > resulted in being able to see the senders address. I then routed my mouse > cursor to vo with vo+command+f5 and performed mouse click with > vo+shift+spacebar. This opened a menu for me which gives you a choice of > replying to sender or adding the sender's details to your address book. Hope > this helps. > > Simon > On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:15, carlene knight wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how >> to highlight each header. Before, I could open the message with return, >> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could >> select it. Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think >> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor >> on any particular heading. It's been a heck of a long time since I >> attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, >> and if so, I apologize. I've got mail in classic view. Thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another mail question with Lion
Thanks for reminding me of that command. I didn't have to put anything in addresses before, but perhaps I will have too. Thanks for the thought. On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Carlene! > OK I'm still not using Lion! > But could the add to address book command help here! > Or has that been removed! > Just in case you do not know it, :] the command is command+shift+Y > Well hth Colin > > On 2 Aug 2011, at 23:45, carlene knight wrote: > >> >> Hello Simon, and thanks for the reply. I tried doing this, just now, but >> the only header that shows is hide. I can't get details or anything like >> that to come up as I used to. I'll try it again but this is frustrating. >> Thanks again >> >> .On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've just tried to do this. This is what I did. >>> >>> I vo+left arrow to the message header area. I then interacted with it. Once >>> you interact, I moved with vo+right once and landed on "details" link. >>> Voiceover actually says here "link". I pressed vo+spacebar on this link. >>> This resulted in being able to see the senders address. I then routed my >>> mouse cursor to vo with vo+command+f5 and performed mouse click with >>> vo+shift+spacebar. This opened a menu for me which gives you a choice of >>> replying to sender or adding the sender's details to your address book. >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Simon >>> On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:15, carlene knight wrote: >>> >>>> Hi: >>>> >>>> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out >>>> how to highlight each header. Before, I could open the message with >>>> return, shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that >>>> I could select it. Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't >>>> think they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the >>>> cursor on any particular heading. It's been a heck of a long time since I >>>> attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, >>>> and if so, I apologise. I've got mail in classic view. Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another mail question with Lion
Thanks. I was afraid that if I tapped the hide button it would do just that and hide something I wanted to see. I forgot that it toggles. Thanks so much. That's confusing to my wee little brain. :) On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:52 PM, André Nuno Soares wrote: > Hello carlene, > > This still works, you just have to do a few extra steps: > 1) Open the message with enter. > 2) VO left arrow to move to the "message headers group". > 3) Interact with the "message headers group". > 4) VO right arrow to the link that reads "details" or "hide". If it's > "details", VO space on it. > 5) VO left arrow to "message headers text". > 6) Interact with it. > > And that's it, you're in a headers section very similar to the Snow Leopard > one. > > Note however, that you can only move around with VO arrow keys, while in SL > you could do it simply with the arrow keys. > > > HTH, > André > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:15 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I was going to personally reply to a list member but I can't figure out how >> to highlight each header. Before, I could open the message with return, >> shift tab to headers, vo/right arrow to the email address so that I could >> select it. Now I can't seem to highlight any headers and I don't think >> they're hidden as I can see the info, I just can't seem to place the cursor >> on any particular heading. It's been a heck of a long time since I >> attempted this, and I am barely computer literate so it might be obvious, >> and if so, I apologize. I've got mail in classic view. Thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Finder and Dashboard driving me crazy
Hi: When I hit the VO keys a lot, such as in Facebook, I either get the dashboard or finder popping up as one has a hotkey of control+left arrow and the other control+right arrow. I know I'm pissing and moaning, but am I the only one with this problem? Sorry for my rant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: very weird and inconsistant behavior with conversations
I have a menu that keeps popping up when I try to expand the conversation and that wasn't happening earlier. I think that maybe our computers are talking to each other somehow and have decided to play tricks on us. On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Okay, > > Want another weirdness? Here you go. For at least three days now, I've been > able to expand a conversation in Mail by using the right arrow key and then > arrowing to each message I wish to read and pressing VO+j to interact with > the text and just read. Now, starting with this session of Mail, I find that > I hear the bong sound when ever I go to use the right arrow to expand > conversations. Quick Nav is always off. I do interact with the message > table when I go in to Mail. Now, to read a conversation, I need to press tab > to get in to the message content table and use VO up and down to rad the > conversation. When I do it this way, I always hear the header detail and so > forth. Any thoughts on what I might want to change? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Finder and Dashboard driving me crazy
Thanks Ricardo. I am still having this problem though. I'll have my husband help me and maybe we can figure out what we've done wrong as I know this should work. Thanks again. On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > go into system prefs/mission control. Now all the pop up menus after > Keyboard and Mouse Shortcuts? Change them to dash dash to disable them. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:52 PM, carlene knight wrote: > > Hi: > > When I hit the VO keys a lot, such as in Facebook, I either get the dashboard > or finder popping up as one has a hotkey of control+left arrow and the other > control+right arrow. I know I'm pissing and moaning, but am I the only one > with this problem? Sorry for my rant. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question about Scan Soft voices
Hi: I just got a new computer and though everything was backed up, I seem to have lost my ScanSoft voices and can't find them, even in the system access speech menu. I still have the Apple voices, even the ones I downloaded, but those neat ScanSoft voices are now history. Is there any way that I can get them back without complication, as I'm not a computer whiz? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
My apologies
The only thing I have complained to customer service about is a problem I was having with ITunes, and I politely let them know that I didn't like the way that VO navigates the screen; everything is out of place and less convenient, The layout looks the same to a sighted user, but not to Vo. plus I was having sluggishness. The latter was because I didn't have enough memory, and my poor computer couldn't handle the music browser. Yes, I don't always handle change well, but I can assure you that I haven't complained about anything else to CS though I have times when VO won't wake up with my computer and it is hard to start it, both with my old Mini with 2 gigs, and my brand new one with 5 gigs of Ram. I'll live with it, no problem. Sorry if I complain too much, I simply replied to a bad thread, and I know that there are some of those. I'll shut up now. Alex is the best voice ever, and I love my Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about Scan Soft voices
Thanks. Will try it. On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yes, assuming you are running lion, open the speech item in system > preferences, and in the pop up menu, choose customize. From here, you can > check the options and redownload the voices you want. > On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:20 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I just got a new computer and though everything was backed up, I seem to >> have lost my ScanSoft voices and can't find them, even in the system access >> speech menu. I still have the Apple voices, even the ones I downloaded, but >> those neat ScanSoft voices are now history. Is there any way that I can get >> them back without complication, as I'm not a computer whiz? Thanks. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist
I just use the find feature most of the time rather than wading through all of my music etc. I've got a hotspot set to search, and for some reason it sticks. After you type in your search quarry just Vo+right arrow a couple times and you should see your music table. Interact with it, and VO+down arrow through it until you find the desired results and press return to listen, or you can just press return at the top of the list to hear it all. Hope this helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pandora apps
Pandora is working to an extent as there is a new site that shows all of the music ID info and bios etc, but the problem is that the controls are still not visible, and it will only play 2 or 3 songs and stop. I've got a premium subscription so there should be no reason for it to do this. On Aug 14, 2011, at 12:10 AM, chad baker wrote: > hi is there any accessible pandora apps besides piano pub > i can't figure out to select a station i see the table with all the stations > i interacted but no luck when clicking the station name > i tried musicality but the pandora is in flash > i e mailed the developer of musicality he said pandora is working on a html > version > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pandora issue solved
For those of you who don't have the Piano Pubb app, you can go to pandora.com/your name, and get into your spacific account where it shows your stations. You can choose by pressing return on the one you want, I believe. The new site also shows them, but I haven't played with that as much. On Aug 14, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > The first checkbox is labeled stations I believed. The next checkbox is for > play/pause. Then moving to the right again will bring you to the skip > button, thumb up button, and the thumbs down button. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Aug 14, 2011, at 8:11 AM, chad baker wrote: > >> hi ricardo thanks your suggestion i made sure the station name had focus >> then did a physical double click with the mouse >> also do you know what the buttons are >> i tried getting info but it said no help tag >> thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating by form field and text
Hi: For some reason, when loading Google I always land on the form field so I can edit the search. Maybe it's because I turned off the summary when the page loads feature so Vo doesn't read the whole page automatically. It simply loads on the form field. Hope that helps. On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > Alfredo, > I only need a couple of key strokes to get to the search box in google. > First, you should know that my quick nav is on. So when safari loads the > page, I first use my up and right arrows to select forms in the web rotor. > Then I hit the down arrow. The first place I land is the search box. I Then > can type what I want and hit enter or go down arrow again to the search or > I'm feeling lucky buttons. > Having been a jaws user for a number of years, I do understand the > convenience of simply hitting the f key and landing on your form field, but > thing about this. With quick nav, you may navigate the web one-handed as any > sighted person can do with a mouse. I find that highly liberating as I feel > it requires less effort on my part. > > Friendly, > Chris > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alfredo wrote: > >> The rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a >> comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google >> webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key. With voice over >> in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys >> along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to >> the text edit field. The safari way requires more key strokes, if I >> could remove key strokes then better. I could use the web item rotor >> and the of to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this >> requires the same number of keystrokes. Maybe as I get used to the >> mac I will get better and be able to find a way o do this. I will >> try grouping mode to see if this helps. Should the voice over cursor >> be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page? >> It does on other pages, like the gmail web page. Maybe if I turn off >> automatic speaking of webpages when they load. Thank for clarifying >> the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and >> only found one solution for this, and i think it was because of safari >> 5 extensions, which I currently do not have. With everyone saying >> that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month >> or so. Thanks again for the response. >> alfredo >> >> Chris Moore wrote: >>> Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create >>> a short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode) >>> as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you >>> mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages >>> loaded of your choice? Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been >>> opened up someone might develop an add on. for now you will have to press >>> command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them. >>> On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote: >>> I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting some bumps in the way. 1. Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws? In jaws you just clicked the “f” key and you would land on a form field, such as an edit box, radio button, or button. 2. Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage, especially ones that contain many links. Is there a hot key to navigate text element by text element on the web? 3. I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and went to the web rotor popup menu. I wanted to select multiple items or deselect multiple items but I could not. Plus VO does not tell you if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO + f8. Can anyone shine a light on this? I can live with having to close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup menu. 4. Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari? I had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page, Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others. Does anyone know how to do this? 6. Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor? Like for example, instead of just going to the link selected from the web item rotor can I activate that link so that the web page will load up auto magically? This would save me on more steps in selecting the link. If there is no way to do this, then I will send an email to apple
how to use Preview
Hi; Where can I go to find out how to use Preview with Vo? Things that come easily to many with computers don't with me so I need to read up on how to use the program. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: screen curtain
When you press Vo/shift f11 Vo will say "screen curtain on or off." The key stroke toggles it on and off. Hope that helps. On Jul 30, 2010, at 2:13 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > How can we actualy that it is actualy off, my sight aint what it used to be > and I don't have a light probe, not that it matters but I don't want anyone > looking over my sholder in the classroom or something. > On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> if you hit f1 or function f1 you can turn the baclight completely off and >> then do the screen curtain you have to do them in that order. if you do >> screen curtain first and then turn down the backlight it will turn screen >> curtain back off. the backlight is completely off when it says zero percent >> >> On Jul 28, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote: >> >>> Turning down the brightness doesn't completely turn off the display, but is >>> it possible, with a MacBook, to completely turn off the screen including >>> the backlight? >>> On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> now that would be a nice feature screen curtain shouldjust turn both the backlight and the screen off at once you should not have to remember to do both lol we might as well have something in our favor considering how manythigns we have set against us lol like at and t internet tech support people refusing to help caus i couldn't do a speed test cause their service was lousy lol I think I scared them i d\ sid fine Im callng time warnerand hung up on them On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't know anything about the monitors but can you not hit the on off > switch for your mac mini's monitor? or will that confuse vo? > On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:41 AM, RvR wrote: > >> Hi, >> That would be the ideal solution, however on iMacs it isn't possible to >> turn >> the screen completely off. Unless someone knows otherwise. Please pretty >> please... smile >> Best, >> Ronald >> >> >> >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- >> Van: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] Namens Sarah Alawami >> Verzonden: woensdag 28 juli 2010 19:08 >> Aan: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Onderwerp: Re: screen curtain >> >> and Plus whenthe screen curtainis on you still see a curser so yeah >> turnng >> off the desplay is better. >> >> S >> On Jul 25, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> For saving the battery, rather than using the screen curtain, I would >>> turn >> the display brightness all the way down to 0, that will totally turn off >> the >> screen lighting. >>> On Jul 25, 2010, at 4:20 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote: >>> Hello! I enable my screen curtain because A: I don't like people being able to >> look over my shoulder while I'm using my computer, and B: I assume that >> it >> saves a bit of battery power. However, I was under the impression that >> the >> screen curtain would behave like it does on the IPhone and reactivate >> whenever I turn on voiceover or my computer. Should this in fact be the >> case? Or is it normal to have to restart the screen curtain each time you >> restart voiceover/the computer? Thanks again for all the help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@goog
Re: Pauses in Mail Messages
Sometimes it is dimmed because the email in question is already in plain text. To switch to plain text on the fly it's option+command+p. On Aug 2, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: > Often, the option to display the message in plain text is dimmed out > and unavailable. > > On 8/2/10, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: >> Have you tried switching to plain text alternative? To do this, hit command >> shift p I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong. >> On Aug 2, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: >> >>> Hello. >>> >>> When reading mail, often, when using Control Option J to move between >>> the mail message table and the message text, there are unnatural pauses >>> as Voiceover reads the text of the message. >>> >>> These pauses seem to occur at the end of each line, but not on all >>> messages. >>> >>> Any way to get Voiceover to read messages without these distracting, >>> unnatural pauses? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Vo delay
Hi: Has anybody noticed a delay in the performance of VO lately? As I go through menus of nearly any type, vo will still be saying the default choice when I am clear down at the bottom of the list. It seems to me as if it's getting worse. It reads text and everything fine except for menus. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: DVS Movies in itunes Store
Blindmicemart has them as well, but I haven't tried it with my Mac. On Aug 2, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > Bryan and Kevin, > > I can't help you with the I-tune store but the following link will at least > provide a list of DVDs that should include a DVS version. It is on the WGBH > web site, the people who record the descriptions. > > http://main.wgbh.org/wgbh/pages/mag/resources/accessible-dvds.html > > HTH, > Linda > On Aug 2, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Kevin - I've also been wondering about where to find DVS movies. The >> only DVS movie I was able to locate in the US itunes store is the animated >> film, "UP." It is available for purchase only, not for rent, and costs >> $14.99. I posted the question to the viphone list but haven't received any >> legitimate leads yet. I also spoke with a Netflix rep who wasn't able to >> find any DVS movies but said he would enter a request to add DVS movies >> and/or add a search function to the Netflix site for this option. >> >> >> Bryan >> >> On Aug 1, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: >> >>> HI there, >>> >>> Does anyone know if there are movies in the iTunes store that come with >>> descriptive video? Is there a way to tell or activate this feature with a >>> downloaded movie? Is there a way to search the store for movies with DVS >>> specifically. >>> >>> If there are described movies available, then I'm going to have a rather >>> busy August. >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trackpads
I can't use those links either. I think we just had a huge discussion about that site. Some can use it and some can't. On Aug 2, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > the link sucks. I can't hear it but who knows, maybe it is my brain... > > Kev > On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Google is your friend. >> >> You can activate the keyboard help by pressing VO + K and then simply start >> trying different gestures. >> >> You can also listen to this: >> >> http://www.visionaustralia.org/docs/atpodcasts/using%20VoiceOver%20gestures%20on%20the%20multi-touch%20trackpad.mp3 >> >> cHRIS >> On 2 Aug 2010, at 21:55, Kevin Mattingly wrote: >> >>> OK, I got the Magic trackpad today. its awesome so far. Is there a quick >>> reference for the gestures? >>> >>> Kev >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vo delay
Thanks. I don't seem to have much of an issue with that, but it's annoying when I an tabbing through, say, a menu here in Mail and it is blabbing about the first choice as I tab toward the bottom of the menu. thanks Sarah On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > o no as of late but some proggram will cause vo to freeze momentarly as I rap > to the right of the first item. > > Hmm. odd? > On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> Has anybody noticed a delay in the performance of VO lately? As I go >> through menus of nearly any type, vo will still be saying the default >> choice when I am clear down at the bottom of the list. It seems to me as if >> it's getting worse. It reads text and everything fine except for menus. >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Newest update to the IPhone
I'm still having that problem even after updating, and sometimes I can't get it to work at all and give up. I can't acces the rotor choices either. It seems as though my screen is shifted too far down or something. On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > Well, > > I decided to upgrade to 4.01 on the IPhone. The only thing I noticed is that > it fixed a bug with trying to enter text in a message field. After the > upgrade to Version 4, I had to touch the message text area and hold down my > finger. Now that fixed, I'm good with it all. > > Kev > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible iPhone 4 apps
I couldn't get Shazam to work at all with Vo. How did you do it. When i tried it, Vo said nothing. On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Probably not, and I can't sing well eather so it would not help at all > anyways. lol! > On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> wow it really listens to what you gt on your mic and can tell you what song >> it is and help you find it? awesome! i be tit doesn't work for classical >> music >> >> On Jul 28, 2010, at 6:09 AM, Charlie Doremus wrote: >> >>> Never heard of shazim, but shazam is a music search engine. If you have it >>> on your phone you activate the app to search for music you might hear by >>> using your phone's mic. >>> HTH >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Simon Fogarty >>> wrote: >>> what is Shazim? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 9:13 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Accessible iPhone 4 apps >>> >>> Don't get ZanyTouch! It will drive you insane! LOL very addictive! That >>> ooTunes is excellent, or there is TuneIn Radio which is free, Units is a >>> very good convertor for lengths, time, weight etc, Facebook is fairly >>> accessible, Skype works well, download iBooks, Shazim. >>> >>> Actually can anyone recommend a good VO friendly RSS reader? >>> On 27 Jul 2010, at 01:27, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I enjoy skype, zanytouch and ootunes. I also use echophone, the yello >>> pages app and soon to be navagon. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Sonnia wrote: > Hello. :) I placed an order for an iPhone 4 this afternoon at my > local at&t store. I plan on loading lots of apps on to my phone when > i receive it. I was just wondering if any of you have any suggestions > for "accessible" apps on the iPhone. I know there are tons of apps > out there and not all of them are blind person friendly. So if anyone > here has used one that seems to work well with voice over and is one > you enjoy using, please let me know. Thanks in advance. > Sonnia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://g
Re: Newest update to the IPhone
Hey thanks. It's maddening. On Aug 2, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I reported the disappearing keyboard to apple so we'll see what happens. > On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:48 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I'm still having that problem even after updating, and sometimes I can't get >> it to work at all and give up. I can't acces the rotor choices either. It >> seems as though my screen is shifted too far down or something. >> On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: >> >>> Well, >>> >>> I decided to upgrade to 4.01 on the IPhone. The only thing I noticed is >>> that it fixed a bug with trying to enter text in a message field. After the >>> upgrade to Version 4, I had to touch the message text area and hold down my >>> finger. Now that fixed, I'm good with it all. >>> >>> Kev >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vo delay
Hi Kevin: Thanks for your response. I have to start Vo several times because it freezes up easier too, or states I'm somewhere where I'm not. I hope I don't have to reinstall from scratch; totally restore the system. I just did a permission repair about a week ago because I was getting busy signals in Safari rendering it almost useless. That has stopped. My system is up to date. On Aug 2, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > If you restart Voiceover, the delay should go away. I get this in Safari > often and Mail sometimes. > > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone text message field question
HI; Do you double tap on the "field is editing" area or the message you are replying too? I've never heard any beaps before, so I must be doing something wrong. I've tried everything On Aug 4, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > YOu can also double tap and hold until you here a series of tones. That will > bring up the keyboard. > On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > >> Hi Gena, >> >> I don't know how most people do this but I always have to press the messages >> back button and then double-tap the message you want to reply to. It's the >> long way around, but it works for me. >> >> Allison >> >> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >> >> >> On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Gena Harper wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> When I use my Iphone, tap on the text field of a text message I am going to >>> send, it keeps saying "insertion point end." Before, all I had to do was >>> tap twice and the insertion point would move to the beginning or the end, >>> depending on where it started. NOw, it won't go to the beginning so when I >>> type, nothing shows up even though it is speaking the charachters I am >>> choosing. >>> >>> Thanks if you can help me with this. >>> >>> Gena >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Weird Safari issue/voiceover restarting
Hi: I wripped a CD of mine for my own use with a bad track and now I can't use Safari without VO restarting every time I try to navigate. We are using Spaces, but have been for quite some time with no problems. Does anybody know if this problem could be connected with the CD? Could a Mac be prey to another Media Max attack? It was a commercial CD. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Weird Safari issue/voiceover restarting
Thanks. Much appreciated. On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No it should not have anything to do with your cd, I hope? Safari is known > as of now for these bugs. I myself have tried a reinstall with no success. > Glad I did it but still no success. > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:24 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I wripped a CD of mine for my own use with a bad track and now I can't use >> Safari without VO restarting every time I try to navigate. We are using >> Spaces, but have been for quite some time with no problems. Does anybody >> know if this problem could be connected with the CD? Could a Mac be prey to >> another Media Max attack? It was a commercial CD. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ITunes 10
I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the rant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Thanks. I feel really stupid now, but I was having a terrible night last night and then I discovered that. I couldn't even get out of the sources table. I had just tried Google again too, and was thrroughly disgusted. Again, I do appologize. Next time I'll try to keep my stupid emotions out of the picture and simply ask how?. On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > You can press VO command T to go from 1 table to the next. It's not VO J > but, the result is the same. > > hth > On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I >> use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as >> every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go >> back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being >> ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the >> rant. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
Where could I find a tutorial for Preview? I tried using it and had a time turning pages etc. On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Preview will read PDF just ifne most of the time. > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:55 AM, chad baker wrote: > > Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? > Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Hi: I use Word at work and I can tell you that it has some bugs like trying to overlap things I need to see that I find downright annoying. I wouldn't want TextEdit to do that, nor would I want the Mac OS and windows platforms to become too intermingled or we would just be inherrriting the problems that we are trying to avoid by switching to OS10 in the first place. Just my thoughts. On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I contacted MS about this on there feedback forum in 2007 but I have since > lost the link and there have been no results as far as I'm aware. I don't use > word anymore on windows or mac so I would not be able to say yes or no that > it is or is not accessible. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > >> Dear List, >> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO >> doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds >> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every >> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, >> ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and >> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every >> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- >> go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main >> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on >> its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add >> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect >> badly on our capabilities. >> >> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I >> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen >> collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all >> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I >> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - >> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on >> other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted >> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, >> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and >> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as >> an interesting technology for all. >> >> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't >> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the >> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part >> of mainstream technology. >> >> In solidarity, >> cathyk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Playing chords and recording loops with the ThumbJam iPhone app [was Re: thumbjam questions and a nice link for ringtone fans]
I haven't figured out how to record yet. I accidentally had to cancel it once, but I have no idea as to how I got there in the first place. :) On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Florian, > > On Aug 31, 2010, at 23:33, F10r14n wrote: > >> In the meantime, noone seems to have answered my >> questions *sob sob* >> >> Florian > > I'll paraphrase your earlier questions. You asked about how to play chords > for the acoustic guitar instrument selection (citing difficulties getting > your fingers down on all the notes of the chord simultaneously), and you also > asked about whether the music you played in ThumbJam could be recorded, for > instance, in an app like GigDaddy. Although you didn't explicitly state this, > I assume you're using ThumbJam on an iPhone. > > The quick answer is that ThumbJam lets you adjust the spacing of notes on the > screen for each of your selected instruments, and it also allows you to > change the octave range of your notes, as well as your key, so you can > control the span of notes and their spacing on the screen for your > performance. ThumbJam also lets you record your performances in the app, and > use them to create mixes -- so you could record a chord sequence and play it > in background as a loop, and then record on top of that a different melody > line with the same or different instruments. You can also adjust the > relative volume in a mixer. > > In ThumbJam, you can control the spacing of your instrument keys by using the > key controls along the left side of your screen, assuming that you haven't > toggled them off to hide them when you play. I described the key controls > and what they do in an earlier post, but to repeat the information and give a > more detailed answer for what you ask (playing chords on an instrument whose > default spacing for different notes doesn't let you fit your fingers onto all > the notes you want at the same time), run your finger along the left side of > your iPhone screen about at the middle of the screen. You should hear > VoiceOver say "cipher underscore plus, button", "span", "cipher underscore > minus, button". Double tap the "cipher underscore minus, button". This > decreases the note range span of the instrument in the vertical direction by > fitting fewer notes between the bottom (lowest note) and top (highest note) > on the screen. Effectively, you've increased the separation between notes, > so that you can fit your fingers (simultaneously) on multiple notes of a > chord. You're probably going to have to double tap the "cipher underscore > minus, button" three or four times, depending on the size of your fingers. > > If you want to keep the spacing at this setting for chorded work, you can use > the next set of key controls just under the "span" controls to move your key > range up or down octaves. These are announced by VoiceOver as "cipher > underscore plus, button", "October", "cipher underscore minus, button". (If > you find this strange, and set your rotor to "character" mode so you can read > off the label letter by letter, you'll find that the developer has used the > abbreviation for Octave as "O C T", and that VoiceOver has decided to help > you out here by reading "October".) Same principle works here: double > tapping the "cipher underscore minus, button" shifts your keys down an > octave, and double tapping the "cipher underscore plus, button" shifts keys > up an octave. > > For those people who want to read the earlier post, the link to this post in > the Mail Archive for the macvisionaries list is: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg28572.html > (Thumbjam iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad music app instructions) > > You'll have to read down to the bottom to get my first post about the > controls layout, since I didn't cc: this to the macvisionaries list (which > also made it available to the Mail Archive for easy searching and linking) > until the next iteration of questions and reply made it clear that people > were going to ask about this app again. > > Now, I use ThumbJam on my iPad, so here's where it turns out that the key > control layout differs from the iPhone setup, based on installing Thumbjam on > my iPod Touch. On the iPhone version, by the time you come to the labeled > controls for changing octave (or "October", as VoiceOver would say), you've > reached the bottom of the screen. On my iPad, when I run my finger down the > left side of the screen to listen to the key controls, the "cipher underscore > minus, button" for the octave is only 60% down from the top of the screen -- > slightly below the vertical midway point. If I continue to run my finger > down the left side of the screen where the key controls are announced (when > not toggled off from the "Sound" menu -- button in the top left corner), I > hear "Rec underscore icon, button" and "metronome underscore off, button". > Th
Re: Playing chords and recording loops with the ThumbJam iPhone app [was Re: thumbjam questions and a nice link for ringtone fans]
Thanks Esther. I'll give it a try. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Carlene, > > On Sep 2, 2010, carlene knight wrote: > >> I haven't figured out how to record yet. I accidentally had to cancel it >> once, but I have no idea as to how I got there in the first place. :) >> > > Actually, same here. I only got into the recording by accident, but since > these guys were asking about it I explored the menus. Pretty easy to do. On > the iPad it's slightly easier to find, since there's a "Rec underscore icon" > at the left side key controls. Just look under the "Loop" menu at the top > right corner for the controls for recording. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Magic track pad
Hi: As quickly as I learned most of the basic commands of the OS10 format, you'd think I could pick up on using the track pad quickly. However I am having a real hard time with it and can not accomplish much at all. I am getting very discouraged. At least learning the keyboard commands was easier because I learned and accomplished something each day. I was able to build enough confidence that even with any problems that cropped up, I kept plugging away. Not so with this stupid Track Pad. I heard the basics but they don't all seem to work even. For instance, I can hear the sound indicating that I have selected something, but I can't seem to get it to activate except for Safari when links are opened as soon as my finger touches that choice. I can't even choose a spacific link because of this. Am I slow or what? I may take the thing back if I don't accomplish something soon. Thanks for any suggestions or information on tutorials I may use. Oh, by the way, the response to my original message about ITunes 10 ended up my drafts folder somehow. I appologize as I was having a terrible night and then I couldn't get to the tables I needed. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?
Sometimes it seems as though you can't just Vo/arrow over twice. I'm glad somebody told me about Command/vo/t. as Sometimes the placement of items seems to be different and I have never figured out why. On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > Tedious? You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get from > one table to the other. :). That just one more key press than control J. > but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources table to songs > table. > > hth > On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote: > >> Hi everyone. Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have >> noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to the >> list of songs. Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering if >> anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain why >> my formerly handy VO-J no longer works. >> >> Thanks very much in advance for any insights. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ITunes search
Hi all: The search feature doesn't seem to want to work correctly in ITunes 10. I type in a search quary and come up with a blank list. I've tried using search options to no avail. Does anybody know what's going on or how to use the search feature now? I seem to have problems others don't have. It's the nature of things, I guess. :) It's frustrating though., Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?
Hi: When I use command/option 3 to go to list-view in ITunes, I no longer see my LCD section. The browser is on, but I can not tell what band or artist is oplaying as I could before. Yes, the browser was on earlier too but I could still view the LCD section for artist or song identification. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too huh? On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually you can press vo cmd t to get back and forth. I can even do this > from anyware in itunes so far as I can see. > > S > On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Tedious? You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get from >> one table to the other. :). That just one more key press than control J. >> but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources table to songs >> table. >> >> hth >> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone. Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have >>> noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to the >>> list of songs. Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering if >>> anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain why >>> my formerly handy VO-J no longer works. >>> >>> Thanks very much in advance for any insights. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover
Three finger double tap. That's one of the few things I can get to work on the Magic track pad. On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted > voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting > weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the > Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did > whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have > sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over > commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad > commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can > perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to > sighted help? Thanks. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes search
I can't remember, but that appears to have been what the problem was. For some reason, I was thinking global search. Quite embarrassing really. On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > What playlist were you in when you were trying to perform your search? > On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:18 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Hi all: >> >> The search feature doesn't seem to want to work correctly in ITunes 10. I >> type in a search quary and come up with a blank list. I've tried using >> search options to no avail. Does anybody know what's going on or how to use >> the search feature now? I seem to have problems others don't have. It's >> the nature of things, I guess. :) It's frustrating though., Thanks in >> advance. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Google search
http://labs.google.com/accessible/ the above URL works with VO. Just thought somebody might like to know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google search
I am using the accessible Google search page without Web Kit. Voiceover doesn't seem to have any problems like it did with the regular Google search ;page. On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > the regular google search chrashes voice over. but webkit works with it. hmm > oddness. > On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Huh? I'm confused. What's wrong with the original Search page? >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:22 AM, carlene knight wrote: >> >>> http://labs.google.com/accessible/ >>> >>> the above URL works with VO. Just thought somebody might like to know. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Cursor tracking problems with ITunes update
Hi all: I just wondered if anybody else has had tracking problems since the new ITunes update? Sometimes even pressing vo/command/f5 doesn't do the trick either. I seem to have probloems others don't, but this is really getting annoying. I checked my cursor tracking options in the Vo utilities menus and they are fine; no changes evident. Any ideas? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
dialogue boxes not being found by V
> > This has happened several times; I try to use my command key to no avail in > Safari so I can't even put an address, close a window, etc. The window > chooser shows no extra windows up, but my sighted husband has to shut the > dialog boxes. What can I do so that I don't need sighted help just to use > Safari. Thanks. Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with the stander > keyboard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: dialogue boxes not being found by V
The keyboard is fine and my bluetooth one did the same thing. I just don't get it. Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > Have you a bluetooth keyboard with which to try? ON my built in keyboard, if > you can believe it, I've got an entire virticle row gone. These are the keys > which no longer type: > > x s w 2 F2 escape Grave accent and tab. > > The only solution was an Apple bluetooth keyboard or els have the entire top > of the machine replaced at a cost of about $300 or so. Keeping in mind my > warantee is out. > > > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Carlene Knight wrote: > >>> >>> This has happened several times; I try to use my command key to no avail >>> in Safari so I can't even put an address, close a window, etc. The window >>> chooser shows no extra windows up, but my sighted husband has to shut the >>> dialog boxes. What can I do so that I don't need sighted help just to use >>> Safari. Thanks. Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with the stander >>> keyboard. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: dialogue boxes not being found by V
I failed to mention that it seems as though banners cause the problem as well. Thanks Ray for your suggestion. It's costly to have a laptop fixed for sure. Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > Have you a bluetooth keyboard with which to try? ON my built in keyboard, if > you can believe it, I've got an entire virticle row gone. These are the keys > which no longer type: > > x s w 2 F2 escape Grave accent and tab. > > The only solution was an Apple bluetooth keyboard or els have the entire top > of the machine replaced at a cost of about $300 or so. Keeping in mind my > warantee is out. > > > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Carlene Knight wrote: > >>> >>> This has happened several times; I try to use my command key to no avail >>> in Safari so I can't even put an address, close a window, etc. The window >>> chooser shows no extra windows up, but my sighted husband has to shut the >>> dialog boxes. What can I do so that I don't need sighted help just to use >>> Safari. Thanks. Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with the stander >>> keyboard. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New bug with vO and the podcast app on IOS
I use Downcast. I have never liked the Apple iOS app it is so unorganized and buggy. Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Hi all, > Has anybody else noticed a new bug with the Apple podcast app on ios? Since > the update of this week, when I go to play a podcast, the phone freezes and > nothing plays. Eventually, I can tripple click home VO off and on again and > everything returns to normal. I can then play the podcast as normal I'm > getting this consistently now so wonder if anybody else is experiencing this. > I'm using an iPhone 5. > > Lisette > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Do not download new slacker radio update
> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the > buttons will not speak and it tends to lock up. I have reported the > problem. The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a change. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Do not download new slacker radio update
My husband who is cited says the layout looks nicer and it is easier to use. I'm assuming you don't have to go into the menu to do different things but it sure messes it up for us. Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote: > Yes, with a slacker subscription, you can cash content to your device. Also, > premium subscribers can listen to a given album on demand if it is within > their library. Some stations play songs that are not downloadable due to the > rights having expired. However one can still add them to a favorite songs > station and replay them. The iPad app still works. > > Pam Francis > > On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a > subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to > Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a > limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone. > Christine > On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > >> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update. I >> love their service, but don't have a premium subscription. >> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station >> simply by 1 artist? I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 night, >> and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I got an >> alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never gotten >> before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the only issue I have >> with it; otherwise, I love it. >> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And >>> definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all >>> of their buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a >>> subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my >>> opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their >>> support Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found >>> them and have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech support >>> via phone. Their email system seems to shoot back automatic computer >>> responses rather than having a human look at what the issues are and >>> correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was no reason to >>> totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who can no longer >>> reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have >>> changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the >>> changes they will make in their iPad app. It would be a real shame to lose >>> that service. >>> >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the >>>> buttons will not speak and it tends to lock up. I have reported the >>>> problem. The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a change. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googl
Re: Do not download new slacker radio update
Yes I love my premium subscription as well. You would not believe all of the albums that I have found on demand. I stream it to my stereo using my airport express and it is an incredible service. I canceled my pandora account as well. If they start messing with the iPad version I will be very upset. Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > I am deeply disappointed about this update. I love Slacker, and do have a > subscription. I canceled my Pandora subscription, in fact, and switched to > Slacker, mostly because I like that I can skip songs if I like without a > limit. With the subscription I have, you can cache content on the phone. > Christine > On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > >> Oh wow, thanx for the info there, I had no idea there even was an update. I >> love their service, but don't have a premium subscription. >> What's the advantage to that aside from being able to listen to a station >> simply by 1 artist? I picked out a station for Hannah to listen to 1 night, >> and next thing I knew, after about possibly 20 minuttes or so, I got an >> alert message telling me "station exhaustion," which I'd never gotten >> before, so I thought that was interesting, but that's the only issue I have >> with it; otherwise, I love it. >> On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:51 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I too am a slacker subscriber. I pay for the premium membership. And >>> definitely not a fan of the new layout. It would not take much to make all >>> of their buttons work. I will never understand why the vendor of a >>> subscription app feels the need to totally rearrange the layout. In my >>> opinion, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. I have found through their >>> support Email system, one gets very little response. I eventually found >>> them and have the contact on my phone to get to their direct tech support >>> via phone. Their email system seems to shoot back automatic computer >>> responses rather than having a human look at what the issues are and >>> correct them. That app has been decent for years. There was no reason to >>> totally rearrange the layout especially for those of us who can no longer >>> reliably use it on iPhone. I agree, the iPad app, seems not to have >>> changed. However, if the iPhone app changes, I'm concerned about the >>> changes they will make in their iPad app. It would be a real shame to lose >>> that service. >>> >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Carlene Knight >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Do not download the new slacker radio update for the iPhone. Most of the >>>> buttons will not speak and it tends to lock up. I have reported the >>>> problem. The iPad Update seems to work okay. I don't see much of a change. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries&
Re: iOS 6 Disappointment!
It's my understanding that Apple bought out Nuance. I was not aware that Microsoft had many voices. Are they as high quality as Alex is? I would like to hear Alex on my eye devices instead of Samantha. Sent from my iPad On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > The only thing that really gets to me sometimes is that Apple just had to > side with Neuance, just to get international voices. Now we all know how good > Alex is. We all love Alex. But Apple just had to stop making new voiecs, > although I think they still adjust the old ones and stuff, but still; > Microsoft has made many high quality voices, in many languages. They made > them all, so why can't Apple? Why not make voices in the superior Apple way? > To me, Neuance is like one step above acapella is in Read2go. And now, in > iOs6.1, the premium voiec of us english won't download. I have it all set > correctly, and have been waiting for days. So that's the only 2 things that > annoy meabout iOs 6 and iOs in general. > > Sent from my iPod with iCloud > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > And what about the one where a hole was discovered like Sarah A said whereby > one could bypass the lock screen if there is a passcode set. That really! > dissettles me! > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - From: > To: > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:42 > Subject: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment! > > > OT: iOS 6 disappointment! > > Is anyone else feeling a little sad about the iOS eco-system since release in > October. Don't get me wrong, there will always be issues. However Apple has > had so many issues. > First, you had the complete redesign of iBooks, App, iTunes store. In the > first release the blind community lost a lot of access, because we didn't > even have the ability to see ratings with the new software. > Second, you had the App store crashing when you would go into the search > area. This happened to everyone, not just our community. > thirdly, who can forget the map debacle. > You have devices going into recovery mode when you do a reset. > The 6. 1 update you now have exchange issue. The extreme 4s battery issue, > and now this morning people who use institutional accounts like at schools. > Individuals can bypass the no downloading option. > I just find this so sad. apple used to pay such close attention to stability, > clean UI, and of course accessibility. I still love my Apple products, and > hope things change under Jony Ive. Is anyone else feeling slightly let down? > This is just a short list, I know you could point out more. I just pointed > out a few which never should have happened! > > J.P. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iOS 6 Disappointment!
I have to admit that it is pretty amazing how Apple products have speech built in. I can use my iPhone and iPad like anyone else. I think sometimes Apple and others try to release too many features at once and don't make sure they all work correctly first. They get in a hurry. Let me point out that it is not just Apple who does this. Sent from my iPad On Feb 15, 2013, at 11:59 AM, "J.P." wrote: > Agreed Chris... I tend to think Stebe is rolling over in his grave with some > of this. No disrespect to the dead! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Losing VO after sleep
I was having a similar problem with my Mac Mini but found I had a bad memory stick. My husband was watching and it appears that voiceover was trying to load but took it a minute or two. It's so hard when you don't know whether voiceover is on or not. Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Right, > > Its just like that. The difference is, that other bug would just strike at > random. This is much more predictable. thank goodness. lol. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi again guys >> I have never lost VO after sleep on my 13-inch Mac Book Pro that I got in >> 2011, just in case that info is important. I used to have problems losing >> speech before we got Mountain Lion, and the braille display would keep >> going, and it sounds a lot like what you guys are talking about. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kerri wrote: >> >>> that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac. >>> On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote: >>> I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro. After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 four times to revive VO. On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess > around with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO > off and back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It > takes about two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again. > > it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go > silent after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity. > > Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any > of the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do > something to invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, > maybe it's not a VO problem but a system problem? > > Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little > annoying. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.g
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
If they would stop fighting like a couple of spoiled, bratty children, the problem would be solved as well. Sent from my iPad On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and > simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would > solve a number of problems all at once. > > -eric > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I >> thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it >> was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is >> about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things >> on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that >> Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for >> accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are >> completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can >> only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it >> exactly what it is. >> >> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html >> >> "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect >> its investment >> in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as >> a tactical >> weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain >> scenarios. >> For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for >> hearing aids, >> it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related >> patents against >> each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent >> enforcement in >> cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested >> monetary compensation >> in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying >> to achieve, >> through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more >> realistically) degradation >> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. >> In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who >> report on and >> care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I >> completely understand >> why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit >> like this one. >> Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western >> hemisphere. >> In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this >> type of issue >> than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should >> give >> more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions >> against Apple." >> >> On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: >>> So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the >>> excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the >>> fact that it does not even control something that is equal in >>> functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. >>> This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have >>> an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they >>> do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a >>> worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by >>> the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your >>> product sucks! >>> >>> On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it crashing, which was upsetting to me. So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait anymore. So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. > Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real > interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are > willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This > childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until > this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning > voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything > wonderful for us at all. Yet such a
Re: mail shortcuts
I have found numerous shortcut keys just by looking at the menu bar. It's a great learning tool. Hope that helps. Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > Command N will start a new message without having to go to the tool bar. > Your not an idiot and shouldn't imagine or project yourself that way. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
cursor tracking problems in ITunes
Hi Ricardo: I can't find the original reply you gave me, but I know you wanted some idea about what exactly is going on. Well, the mouse cursor wanted to stay on the Apple Logo, or the previous song button. I was trying to do things all over the place. Obviously the VO cursor was moving without the mouse cursor. Once in a while the VO/command/f5 key combination would link them, but not very often. It got rather anoying when I was trying to choose a song to play, or a radio stream to listen too, and nothing would happen. I'd check the mouse location, and sure enough, it would be on one of the previously mentioned areas. have done a permissions repair, and now when I try to move from songs to sources, I get a busy signal for a minute or two. The mouse cursor seems to move better now, so maybe I can't have everything work. My remote app on my IPhone takes a full minute or 2 to find my library now too. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: seeking tips for interacting with a complicated website
Hi: Yu may have thought of this, already, but you need to interact with the text in order to edit it at all. On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm wondering if anyone can give me some tips for working with a pretty > complicated website. It's similar to Blackboard. It has multiple frames, > and many different types of info on a page. Everything seems pretty > accessible, except one thing. I need to be able to view and comment on a > pretty large text edit field. I can read the text, but I can't write in the > text field. I know this is doable, because I can do it on the PC. I tried > turning of cursor tracking, but that didn't seem to help at all. Anyone have > any suggestions? > Thanks, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari frusterations!
The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work fine. I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill out a form. That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari. On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is doable, > but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with the VO keys to > see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email the web master and > ask them to use something more accessible, using mouse over events can cause > problems for any screen reader. > On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7. Unfortunately I keep >> finding myself having to do this. Part is my inability to completely grasp >> voice over in a really efficient way. However I feel to a larger part I >> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and >> university assignments. For example last night I was searching for >> information on a pelit stove that I am working on. I found a good and very >> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy. >> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by >> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was >> displayed. I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid. >> This is only one event. I very frequently find that this is occurring even >> in google of all places. Many times the heading hot key does not function >> properly. Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar >> frustrations? I find similar troubles with the need for a good word >> processor and spreadsheet application. I will not go into details right >> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more >> stability and a solid tool for productivity? I love the sleek design and >> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism that >> many folks are embuing the machines with. I have found the hardware just as >> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC. I will stop my rant and I >> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my >> intentions. I just want a bit of a reality check. >> Sincerely, >> Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari frusterations!
Do you use Dom or Groups Mode? I use Dom. I interact, but I'm sure I'm doing something wrong because I see a list of questions, and then the radio buttons, after them. I use Vo/left and right arrows. I do remember one that did work correctly for some reason, www.jobdango.com. It's our local job search site. It's been about the only one I've had luck with. thanks. n On Oct 3, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > That's interesting, I've never had this issue with radio buttons, just used > some of those a few minutes ago. > On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps >> restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work >> fine. I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill out >> a form. That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari. >> >> >> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is doable, >>> but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with the VO keys >>> to see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email the web master >>> and ask them to use something more accessible, using mouse over events can >>> cause problems for any screen reader. >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>>I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7. Unfortunately I keep >>>> finding myself having to do this. Part is my inability to completely grasp >>>> voice over in a really efficient way. However I feel to a larger part I >>>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and >>>> university assignments. For example last night I was searching for >>>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on. I found a good and very >>>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy. >>>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by >>>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was >>>> displayed. I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid. >>>> This is only one event. I very frequently find that this is occurring even >>>> in google of all places. Many times the heading hot key does not function >>>> properly. Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar >>>> frustrations? I find similar troubles with the need for a good word >>>> processor and spreadsheet application. I will not go into details right >>>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more >>>> stability and a solid tool for productivity? I love the sleek design and >>>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism >>>> that >>>> many folks are embuing the machines with. I have found the hardware just >>>> as >>>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC. I will stop my rant and I >>>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my >>>> intentions. I just want a bit of a reality check. >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For mor
Re: Safari frusterations!
Well, it opens ok, but when you put a search quarry in and hit return or Vo/spacebar on the search button, the problem begins. Vo will constantly restart. Yes, I am using Safari. On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Let me guess, you're not using Webkit. That'd explain why your Safari > crashes, although I don't even seem to have that problem when using the > regular Safari which is pretty interesting. I didn't even know the current > site was inaccessible, so to speak. > > Regards, > Nic > On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> That's interesting, I've never had this issue with radio buttons, just used >> some of those a few minutes ago. >> On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, carlene knight wrote: >> >>> The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps >>> restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work >>> fine. I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill out >>> a form. That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>>> Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is doable, >>>> but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with the VO keys >>>> to see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email the web master >>>> and ask them to use something more accessible, using mouse over events can >>>> cause problems for any screen reader. >>>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7. Unfortunately I keep >>>>> finding myself having to do this. Part is my inability to completely >>>>> grasp >>>>> voice over in a really efficient way. However I feel to a larger part I >>>>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and >>>>> university assignments. For example last night I was searching for >>>>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on. I found a good and >>>>> very >>>>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy. >>>>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by >>>>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was >>>>> displayed. I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid. >>>>> This is only one event. I very frequently find that this is occurring >>>>> even >>>>> in google of all places. Many times the heading hot key does not function >>>>> properly. Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar >>>>> frustrations? I find similar troubles with the need for a good word >>>>> processor and spreadsheet application. I will not go into details right >>>>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more >>>>> stability and a solid tool for productivity? I love the sleek design and >>>>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism >>>>> that >>>>> many folks are embuing the machines with. I have found the hardware just >>>>> as >>>>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC. I will stop my rant and I >>>>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my >>>>> intentions. I just want a bit of a reality check. >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >&g
track pads
How do you click and double tap with a track pad? I have the Magic Track Pad, and sometimes when links are highlighted, they tend to activate whether I want them to or not. I can't seem to double tap on anything, nothing happens. I am so frustrated with the thing that it is just sitting here on my desk getting more dust than use. It works perfectly well for my sighted husband with the track pad commander turned off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Not able to sign into itunes
I've got a Magic Mousepad. I'm still having some busy signals as usual when I go down the sources table as the app store always tries to load, I think. I discovered that somehow the hide Ping sidebar had become unchecked, and I think it was searching for a Ping playlist. It still doesn't act perfect, but better than it did. Thanks. On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Don't hit enter, hit tab onto okay field then hit space and see if that > works. Why itunes should be going into busy mode like that even under these > circumstances though for me is a puzzle. If you can get to a local mac users > group meeting you may get lots more support there. Have you got a working > mouse and monitor hooked up to the computer too? Could be a missing mouse > may freak itunes out.On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Antonio M Guimaraes Jr. wrote: > >> I am trying t upgrade my iphone for the fist time, and it requires itunes. I >> am using itunes on a new Mac mini, but I need to perform several operations >> before I can upgrade the iPhone. >> >> These include signing into itunes, aothorizing my computer, and playing a >> song or video I purchased from itunes >> >> The issue is signing in. itunes keeps going into busy mode after I enter the >> password, and press enter. This keeps happening until I am forced to shut >> the program down. >> >> Is there a known issue with itunes, and a solution, or do I need to do >> something different for thingsg to work? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Antonio Guimaraes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Not able to sign into itunes
Oh, I didn't look at the original message as I posted a similar problem with busy signals the other day. Sorry. Incidentally Antonio, my sighted husband is having trouble playing videos since the last update, and I have been having mouse problems and busy signals also.. On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Don't hit enter, hit tab onto okay field then hit space and see if that > works. Why itunes should be going into busy mode like that even under these > circumstances though for me is a puzzle. If you can get to a local mac users > group meeting you may get lots more support there. Have you got a working > mouse and monitor hooked up to the computer too? Could be a missing mouse > may freak itunes out.On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Antonio M Guimaraes Jr. wrote: > >> I am trying t upgrade my iphone for the fist time, and it requires itunes. I >> am using itunes on a new Mac mini, but I need to perform several operations >> before I can upgrade the iPhone. >> >> These include signing into itunes, aothorizing my computer, and playing a >> song or video I purchased from itunes >> >> The issue is signing in. itunes keeps going into busy mode after I enter the >> password, and press enter. This keeps happening until I am forced to shut >> the program down. >> >> Is there a known issue with itunes, and a solution, or do I need to do >> something different for thingsg to work? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Antonio Guimaraes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: track pads
Double tapping does nothing so I can't do much. I do all kinds of things with the IPhone. I got so frustrated that I gave my Magic Trackpad to my husband. When you can't select anything, it's silly to keep the device. On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > have you tried practicing gestures? Most of the gestures, if not all, are > the same as on the iPhone/iPod touch. Starting keyboard help and practicing > gestures might help. > On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:44 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> How do you click and double tap with a track pad? I have the Magic Track >> Pad, and sometimes when links are highlighted, they tend to activate whether >> I want them to or not. I can't seem to double tap on anything, nothing >> happens. I am so frustrated with the thing that it is just sitting here on >> my desk getting more dust than use. It works perfectly well for my sighted >> husband with the track pad commander turned off. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: track pads
Sorry, I failed to thank you for your advice. It was much appreciated. I just finally gavve up. I got the thing because I thought it would be like that, but for some reason it wasn't. Maybe it was my computer, I don't know. On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > have you tried practicing gestures? Most of the gestures, if not all, are > the same as on the iPhone/iPod touch. Starting keyboard help and practicing > gestures might help. > On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:44 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> How do you click and double tap with a track pad? I have the Magic Track >> Pad, and sometimes when links are highlighted, they tend to activate whether >> I want them to or not. I can't seem to double tap on anything, nothing >> happens. I am so frustrated with the thing that it is just sitting here on >> my desk getting more dust than use. It works perfectly well for my sighted >> husband with the track pad commander turned off. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more info on needing help
Thanks Bob. I've made sure but thanks for the suggestion. I appreciate it. I installed the combo update and did permissions repair. Some of the problems are back though but I haven't had a lot of time to see if they all are. Thanks. On Nov 21, 2009, at 1:35 AM, Bob Hill wrote: > Is it possible that you have QuickNav activated? > Hit the right and left arrows together and se if it turns off this feature. > > Bob Hill > > On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:02 AM, May McDonald wrote: > >> Ok, I'm still just as stuck on how to fix this very annoying problem. But I >> have figured out if I hold down the control key and use the arrows it will >> do what it use to do if I just pressed the arrow keys. Does anyone know how >> I would go about putting this back to normal or do I need to find my >> software and redo my computer to fix this? It's driving me nuts!! >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=.
Re: replying directly to sender?
Here is how I do it. Hit enter on the message you want to reply too. Then shift tab to message headers, use shift command right arrow to highlight the address, go into the context menu with vo/shift m. Next arrow to reply to sender, hit enter and the to: field will automatically be filled in. It sounds harder than it is. I hope that helps. On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Good morning/afternoon all, > > In Leopard, you could reply directly to the sender of a message--for > example in the case of list mail where you want to reply off-list--by > interacting with message headers. This option doesn't seem to work in > SL, at least so far as I can tell. So, how does one respond directly > to a sender? > Thanks, > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=.
Re: replying directly to sender?
Hi Donna: Glad I could help. On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Carlene, > > Thank you! Basically I'd been trying the same thing, except I just > arrowed over to the sender's name, i.e. I didn't select it with the > Shift key. Once I did that, the context menu came up just like I > would have expected. > Thanks again, > Donna > On Nov 22, 2009, at 4:18 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Here is how I do it. Hit enter on the message you want to reply >> too. Then shift tab to message headers, use shift command right >> arrow to highlight the address, go into the context menu with vo/ >> shift m. Next arrow to reply to sender, hit enter and the to: field >> will automatically be filled in. It sounds harder than it is. I >> hope that helps. >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Good morning/afternoon all, >>> >>> In Leopard, you could reply directly to the sender of a message--for >>> example in the case of list mail where you want to reply off-list--by >>> interacting with message headers. This option doesn't seem to work >>> in >>> SL, at least so far as I can tell. So, how does one respond directly >>> to a sender? >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl= >>> . >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl= >> . >> >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=.
Re: Mounting ISO images
Hi: there is a way in disc utilities to mount ISOs. On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:07 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Just shows me the contents, which isn't really something I care much about. I > care more about mounting it. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 25, 2009, at 5:54 AM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >> What happens if you hit command+o on the .iso image? >> >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I'm curious to know if anyone knows of mounting ISO images on the Mac >>> without having to burn them? I know this is possible in Windows, and I'm >>> sure it's possible to do on the Mac as well. Does anyone know if any >>> third-party software is required to do this? Or am I just missing something? >>> >>> Thanks in advance. It's easier to pose that question here, as I'm too tired >>> to Google and when I finally wake up I might have an answer. :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone or iTouch?
Another thing that negates its value is the $30 data plan. My family would be paying $90 monthly in data plan fees. $30 for family would be great, but not per phone. monthly. It's outrageous in my opinion. My husband has an IPhone, but I'll probably never get one because of the cost of the phone and data plan. On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:27 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks Nick (and all) for the helpful replies. I guess I'll just have to go > in and play with the iPhone now. I wasn't aware that the GPS was > accessible, so that definitely makes it attractive. However data roaming > rates throughout the EU are very very expensive which kind of negates its > value somewhat. > > Thanks again, > > Dónal > > -Original Message- > From: Nicolai Svendsen [mailto:chojiro1...@gmail.com] > Sent: 26 November 2009 09:07 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone or iTouch? > > Hi, > > I'd definitely second what Scott says. If you have the possibility for an > upgrade to an iPhone I'd take it, just to have everything integrated into > one device. That's why I'm considering an iPhone very strongly myself at the > moment. I like the iTouch as well, but I don't want to carry around my phone > while also having to carry around the iPod. it just seems less convenient. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:30 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> You know it comes down to whether you want a phone as well and the > possibility of using a GPS solution or not. The Touch could possibly have a > GPS solution added as an external item, but of course the other > consideration is the data plan. I personally decided to just get the iPhone > for my wife and I and I do get my use out of the data plan. >> I hope that gives you some things to consider. The interface is the same > with a few differences do to the fact one is the iPhone and one is the iPod > Touch, but the experience is the same. >> On Nov 25, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> I am faced with something of a dilemma. It's a nice one, but a dilemma > none the less. >>> >>> The phone carrier (O2) in Ireland who offers the iPhone is offering me a > very good upgrade price. So my dilemma is whether to buy the iPhone now, or > wait till the States to get the touch. I presume the interaction on both > devices is the same? I'd be very interested to hear the thoughts and > experiences of people on the list who have tried both. >>> >>> In light of the ludicrous over-pricing by Intel on their new reader, > isn't it truly fantastic to have the choice between two off-the-shelf > devices? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Donal >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mounting ISO images
Here's what my husband does. He double clicks on the image in disc utilities, which causes the drive to show on the desktop. He clicks on that and then your window will open up in finder. Hope that helps. On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > It doesn't really matter what I want to use it for. I want to mount it like a > CD, just like it is actually burned to a CD. Which I've been saying in the > passed few posts. If I have a DVD in an ISO image I want to use, as an > example. > > Microsoft has its own program for doing this on Windows, and it works very > well. What it basically does is virtualize a CD-rom drive, and when you ask > it to mount the ISO image, it will make it appear that a disk has actually > been inserted and show you the appropriate dialogs for setups, DVDs, and > so-forth, to clarify even further., which eliminates the need to burn ISO > images to disks to you're not required to buy them. The virtual drive will > behave like a regular drive, and so will the image as if it was inserted into > the drive on a CD or DVD. Hope this will make it easier to understand. It's > probably not even necessary to virtualize, I hope. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Kieren wrote: > >> >>> If there is, I'd like to know. I don't see it. I even looked through the >>> help, and there is no mention of mounting ISO files, only opening them if >>> you would like to burn them. I want to mount them and use them as a virtual >>> CD, not open to burn them. >> >> So the Question remains what are you trying to do? Install an OS? >> Play audio? what? >> Without you explaining the context of your need to mount but not open >> which BTW are one and the same thing when it comes >> to .iso, .dmg, .cdr, .sparseimage and many other multi file/disk >> archiving formats. >> To put it simply mounting an ISO ie double click the .iso file to open >> it is THE SAME as burning it to a physical disk and then putting it >> back in the drive to read the data off it it is read only. ISO files >> are not read/write. >> >> For clarification how would you do this on a windows box? I think you >> are asking the wrong question. if you are looking to create an >> expandable archive then you can use the disk utility to create a NEW >> image of a set size which is read/write which will pre-allocate the >> disk space straight away. >> Or you can create a sparseimage which is also read/write but will grow >> in disk size up to a set limit. >> These are not iso standard but there are a few utils around which will >> burn their contents to disk if needed or convert them to other >> formats. >> >> Kieren >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Command line applications
Would there be an advantage of running Mail through the terminal? On Nov 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi, > > This is for the person who wanted some command line apps. I forgot to send > this before, but Mail can be used from the terminal. > > If you type man mail, you will get a manual page with all the options that > the command line allows. > > HTH > > TC > James > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem
Did you get the message I sent you? My husband called tech support for you regarding a dummy adapter. I don't know if it is the one you have. You could get a very small used monitor for about $50 that wouldn't take up much room, but would fix this issue. On Nov 28, 2009, at 2:44 PM, David McLean wrote: > Maybe if we keep hammering them they'll get it eventually!!! > On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > >> That adapter simply does not work! Please do not advise individuals that it >> does, because it is not correct. When I attached it to my Mac Mini, the >> machine refused to even boot! We need to quash this adapter thing now! I >> wasted money on the adapter based upon the recommendations of well-meaning >> individuals, but enough already. It doesn't work. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Chris Blouch >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:24 AM >> Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem >> >> Correct. You want the whatever your computer has to video adapter. >> >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9319G/A >> >> There are different flavors depending on what the port is on the back of >> your computer. The one noted above is the mini-dvi to video but some >> computers might have the micro-DVI which is >> >> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB202G/A >> >> CB >> >> David McLean wrote: >>> >>> Here is the one I ordered as recommended on this list. If it isn't >>> correct I'd sure appreciate it someone can finally clarify exactly which >>> one it is that does work! >>> Product Number Unit Price Qty Subtotal >>> >>> VID ADPT MINI-DVI TO VIDEO ADAPTER-GEN M9319G/A$19.00 >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> I haven't seen it stated clearly in this thread. Was the adaptor purchased the Mac to NTSC adaptor? That's the only one that works. The NTSC adaptor tells the Mac that there is a monitor attached even if there isn't one. The DVI adaptor is not the right one. That one still passes through the monitor detect signaling so it just moves the problem further down the chain of connections. For those not familiar, without a monitor connected the Mac tries to detect what's hooked up. This detection apparently hangs the machine, makes it run horribly slow or other bad behaviors if there isn't a monitor hooked up. If you hook up an NTSC adaptor the detect runs as though a screen is hooked up and then everything works. CB Chris G wrote: > > Hi, > > I agree, if I would've known the frustration my Mac mini would cause me > I would've bought an iMac. Sometimes it doesn't pay to try and save a > little money. > Chris > > > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:05:32 -0600 > "Rich Ring" wrote: > > >> I guess that's what I'll do. Wish I had never wasted my money on this >> computer, I should have held out and bought a Mac Book, but who knewA? >> - Original Message - >> From: "David McLean" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:58 PM >> Subject: -- Mac Mini problem >> >> >> Well I had exactly the same problem last week. >> My only recommendation is to buy a cheap monitor just for the mini which >> is >> what I did. >> Of course you can also do what I did and buy yourself an early Christmas >> present (an imac). >> >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >> >> >>> Hello: >>> I have finally gotten around to purchasing the mini to dvi adapter that >>> many >>> folks told me would solve the problems I am having with my Mac Mini's >>> poor >>> performance on the web, and its inability to play DVDS. I have been >>> very >>> busy because of a change in my job description, so I've kind of put the >>> Mac >>> on hold. However, life is calming down and I decided to get down to it >>> with >>> the mac. Imagine my frustration when, I received the adapter today, >>> connected it to the back of my Mac, started the machine, and I have no >>> speech. If I start the machine without this adapter connected, VO >>> comes >>> up >>> as expected, and if I subsequently plug in the adapter all is still >>> well, >>> but Safari is still just as slow as it was before. I'm wondering why >>> the >>> system doesn't seem to come up if the adapter is plugged in. If any >>> of >>> you >>> have an idea what could be causing this and, better yet, if any of you >>> have >>> a solution, I will be incredibly grateful. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jess Smith" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:09 AM >>> Subject: A question about streaming audio in vlc media player >>> >>> >>> H
Re: -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem
Yeah, I bet I did send it to Rich. Sorry about the mix-up. I'll see if I can find the message and send it to you personally. Again, I apologize. You can also go Google something like Mac Mini without a monitor. On Nov 28, 2009, at 4:38 PM, David McLean wrote: > Wow! That's going above and beyond! > I didn't get your message however. > Are you sure you didn't send it to Rich Ring? He was also having the problem. > I already have a cheap monitor I bought just for the Mini. > My point has just been to try and keep other people from buying an adapter > that doesn't work. > What did your husband find out? > Thanks a lot for doing this. > On Nov 28, 2009, at 7:01 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> Did you get the message I sent you? My husband called tech support for you >> regarding a dummy adapter. I don't know if it is the one you have. You >> could get a very small used monitor for about $50 that wouldn't take up >> much room, but would fix this issue. >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 2:44 PM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> Maybe if we keep hammering them they'll get it eventually!!! >>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >>> >>>> That adapter simply does not work! Please do not advise individuals that >>>> it does, because it is not correct. When I attached it to my Mac Mini, >>>> the machine refused to even boot! We need to quash this adapter thing now! >>>> I wasted money on the adapter based upon the recommendations of >>>> well-meaning individuals, but enough already. It doesn't work. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Chris Blouch >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:24 AM >>>> Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem >>>> >>>> Correct. You want the whatever your computer has to video adapter. >>>> >>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9319G/A >>>> >>>> There are different flavors depending on what the port is on the back of >>>> your computer. The one noted above is the mini-dvi to video but some >>>> computers might have the micro-DVI which is >>>> >>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB202G/A >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> David McLean wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here is the one I ordered as recommended on this list. If it isn't >>>>> correct I'd sure appreciate it someone can finally clarify exactly which >>>>> one it is that does work! >>>>> Product NumberUnit Price Qty Subtotal >>>>> >>>>> VID ADPT MINI-DVI TO VIDEO ADAPTER-GENM9319G/A$19.00 >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I haven't seen it stated clearly in this thread. Was the adaptor >>>>>> purchased the Mac to NTSC adaptor? That's the only one that works. The >>>>>> NTSC adaptor tells the Mac that there is a monitor attached even if >>>>>> there isn't one. The DVI adaptor is not the right one. That one still >>>>>> passes through the monitor detect signaling so it just moves the problem >>>>>> further down the chain of connections. For those not familiar, without a >>>>>> monitor connected the Mac tries to detect what's hooked up. This >>>>>> detection apparently hangs the machine, makes it run horribly slow or >>>>>> other bad behaviors if there isn't a monitor hooked up. If you hook up >>>>>> an NTSC adaptor the detect runs as though a screen is hooked up and then >>>>>> everything works. >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris G wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree, if I would've known the frustration my Mac mini would cause me >>>>>>> I would've bought an iMac. Sometimes it doesn't pay to try and save a >>>>>>> little money. >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:05:32 -0600 >>>>>>> "Rich Ring" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem
I could be wrong and totally making an idiot of myself, but if you get a monitor you won't need the adapter would you? It seems as though people are just getting regular monitors for their minis. On Nov 28, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > Hi: > I did indeed receive your message, but it seemed to indicate that I would > have to wire the adapter myself. I don't think I could do this. Trouble > with getting a monitor is that none of the ones I've seen have the correct > end that would fit into the adapter that came with my Mac Mini. I'll keep > looking. > ----- Original Message - > From: carlene knight > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem > > Did you get the message I sent you? My husband called tech support for you > regarding a dummy adapter. I don't know if it is the one you have. You > could get a very small used monitor for about $50 that wouldn't take up much > room, but would fix this issue. > > > On Nov 28, 2009, at 2:44 PM, David McLean wrote: > >> Maybe if we keep hammering them they'll get it eventually!!! >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >> >>> That adapter simply does not work! Please do not advise individuals that it >>> does, because it is not correct. When I attached it to my Mac Mini, the >>> machine refused to even boot! We need to quash this adapter thing now! I >>> wasted money on the adapter based upon the recommendations of well-meaning >>> individuals, but enough already. It doesn't work. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Chris Blouch >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:24 AM >>> Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem >>> >>> Correct. You want the whatever your computer has to video adapter. >>> >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9319G/A >>> >>> There are different flavors depending on what the port is on the back of >>> your computer. The one noted above is the mini-dvi to video but some >>> computers might have the micro-DVI which is >>> >>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB202G/A >>> >>> CB >>> >>> David McLean wrote: >>>> >>>> Here is the one I ordered as recommended on this list. If it isn't >>>> correct I'd sure appreciate it someone can finally clarify exactly which >>>> one it is that does work! >>>> Product Number Unit Price Qty Subtotal >>>> >>>> VID ADPT MINI-DVI TO VIDEO ADAPTER-GEN M9319G/A$19.00 >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> I haven't seen it stated clearly in this thread. Was the adaptor >>>>> purchased the Mac to NTSC adaptor? That's the only one that works. The >>>>> NTSC adaptor tells the Mac that there is a monitor attached even if there >>>>> isn't one. The DVI adaptor is not the right one. That one still passes >>>>> through the monitor detect signaling so it just moves the problem further >>>>> down the chain of connections. For those not familiar, without a monitor >>>>> connected the Mac tries to detect what's hooked up. This detection >>>>> apparently hangs the machine, makes it run horribly slow or other bad >>>>> behaviors if there isn't a monitor hooked up. If you hook up an NTSC >>>>> adaptor the detect runs as though a screen is hooked up and then >>>>> everything works. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> Chris G wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree, if I would've known the frustration my Mac mini would cause me >>>>>> I would've bought an iMac. Sometimes it doesn't pay to try and save a >>>>>> little money. >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:05:32 -0600 >>>>>> "Rich Ring" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess that's what I'll do. Wish I had never wasted my money on this >>>>>>> computer, I should have held out and bought a Mac Book, but who knewA? >>&
daisy reader software
Hi: Can anybody point me in the direction of a Daisy reader for the mac if one exists? I think somebody mentioned this a while back but I can't find the message now as I thought I'd saved it. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem
thanks for that info. That clears it up for me. On Nov 29, 2009, at 6:03 AM, David McLean wrote: > Most monitors require a vga connection thus the need for an adapter. This > isn't the same as the adapter that's been said to fix the running without a > monitor problem. > On Nov 28, 2009, at 10:03 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I could be wrong and totally making an idiot of myself, but if you get a >> monitor you won't need the adapter would you? It seems as though people are >> just getting regular monitors for their minis. >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> I did indeed receive your message, but it seemed to indicate that I would >>> have to wire the adapter myself. I don't think I could do this. Trouble >>> with getting a monitor is that none of the ones I've seen have the correct >>> end that would fit into the adapter that came with my Mac Mini. I'll keep >>> looking. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: carlene knight >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem >>> >>> Did you get the message I sent you? My husband called tech support for you >>> regarding a dummy adapter. I don't know if it is the one you have. You >>> could get a very small used monitor for about $50 that wouldn't take up >>> much room, but would fix this issue. >>> >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 2:44 PM, David McLean wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe if we keep hammering them they'll get it eventually!!! >>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >>>> >>>>> That adapter simply does not work! Please do not advise individuals that >>>>> it does, because it is not correct. When I attached it to my Mac Mini, >>>>> the machine refused to even boot! We need to quash this adapter thing >>>>> now! I wasted money on the adapter based upon the recommendations of >>>>> well-meaning individuals, but enough already. It doesn't work. >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: Chris Blouch >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:24 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Mac Mini problem >>>>> >>>>> Correct. You want the whatever your computer has to video adapter. >>>>> >>>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9319G/A >>>>> >>>>> There are different flavors depending on what the port is on the back of >>>>> your computer. The one noted above is the mini-dvi to video but some >>>>> computers might have the micro-DVI which is >>>>> >>>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB202G/A >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> David McLean wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is the one I ordered as recommended on this list. If it isn't >>>>>> correct I'd sure appreciate it someone can finally clarify exactly which >>>>>> one it is that does work! >>>>>> Product Number Unit Price Qty Subtotal >>>>>> >>>>>> VID ADPT MINI-DVI TO VIDEO ADAPTER-GEN M9319G/A$19.00 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't seen it stated clearly in this thread. Was the adaptor >>>>>>> purchased the Mac to NTSC adaptor? That's the only one that works. The >>>>>>> NTSC adaptor tells the Mac that there is a monitor attached even if >>>>>>> there isn't one. The DVI adaptor is not the right one. That one still >>>>>>> passes through the monitor detect signaling so it just moves the >>>>>>> problem further down the chain of connections. For those not familiar, >>>>>>> without a monitor connected the Mac tries to detect what's hooked up. >>>>>>> This detection apparently hangs the machine, makes it run horribly slow >>>>>>> or other bad behaviors if there isn't a monitor hooked up. If you hook >>>>>>> up an NTSC adaptor the detect runs as though a screen is hooked up and >>>>>>> then every
Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium
I think that part of the problem also is getting these agencies to realize how accessible OSX is now. this has been my personal experience. On Nov 29, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Chris, > > That is rediculous because funding isn't being just spent on "bombs" as you > say, but on every other possible and pointless program like bailouts of > banks, auto manufactures, and now the possibility of health care. Of course > lets try not to stray down the path of politics. I will agree that many of > these people have loss their jobs do to "other funding priorities", whatever > those may be for that state and the government. > Maybe it is a burden for some to purchase their own computers, but that is an > entirely separate issue from having choice. I agree that if someone is not > familiar with adaptive technology and has no idea what they need, it is more > difficult to support offering them something you can't support as an agency. > I do however believe that agencies should offer choice and be able to support > choice. Of course everything always ties directly back to funding, but I > would submit that a Mac would be less expensive. Well to be honest, this > thread probably has run its course and I think we agree on many points all be > it from a different point of view. :) > On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > >> This should be moved to the bs list... >> >> Getting government agencies or the non-profits with whom they contract to >> provide such services in the US is really a hard problem to solve in the >> current economic climate. >> >> First off, a lot of people in the consumer services side of these >> organizations have been laid off so we can buy bombs for use in Afghanistan >> and support the Israeli military machine. Thus, there are a lot fewer >> trainers out there than just a few years ago. >> >> Most, if not all of these trainers know JAWS and ZoomText very well and, in >> some of the wealthier areas, they know Window-Eyes and MAGic as well. These >> agencies and NGO have already invested a lot of money in training their >> trainers and are reticent to spend their scarce dollars on training for >> another system like Macintosh that is, in their minds, unproven. >> >> Some states require that these agencies provide consumers with a choice but >> accept that having JAWS and Window-Eyes is an actual choice. Those who, for >> one reason or another, select Window-Eyes will probably get substandard >> training as the JAWS juggernaut is nearly unbreakable. >> >> These programs are as "socialist" as those in Europe. In the US, we can buy >> a Macintosh with our own scratch which, for many, is a real burden and may >> not be possible. When you add that a local Lighthouse will help them get a >> decent Windows machine and give them JAWS at no cost to the consumer which >> will make choosing a Macintosh and paying out of pocket a lot less >> attractive. >> >> Until the funding improves again, the roadblocks of shrinking training >> dollars and a system that has virtually no one to actually evaluate the >> alternatives will remain broken. So much for private enterprise... >> >> cdh >> >> PS: Do not take my comments and think I am a socialist - I believe that >> government can do things where the market fails and proprietary access >> technology is sold in a vacuum that is almost entirely non-competitive means >> that private enterprise has failed and, in order to provide people with >> disabilities any chance of participating in the proverbial quest for the >> American Dream, the government needs to be involved. >> >> So, I believe that the free market usually functions very well but in >> certain areas it hasn't enough capital to lubricate the system so it has >> fallen into an FS monopoly. According to a recent study, JAWS has over 70% >> of the users and Window-Eyes (number 2 in the study) has about 11% with all >> others, including Mac, splitting up the rest. >> >> I can go on forever about the nasty business practices, litigation rather >> than innovation and other maneuvers that FS uses to increase its >> stranglehold on this market but I've said it so many times that I'm starting >> to bore myself. >> >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Jake wrote: >> >>> Hi Scott >>> Although I agree with you completely, I'd argue that this situation >>> exists in the US as well. Has anyone successfully gotten the >>> government to buy them a Mac? I've never heard of a case, and the >>> reasons given are similar and some are even open about dealing >>> exclusively with one company or another. Ours, too, is a socialist >>> program gone wrong. >>> I'm actually curious now, has anyone gotten a Mac from any sort of >>> government agency and if so, what country? >>> In either case, though, let one thing be clear. You always have >>> choices, and you've the power to make them. I got my Mac because I >>> purchased it. Yes,
Re: Mail reading the status as blank after scrolling through unread messages
HI: The status of most of my messages is blank. Sometimes the Voiceover cursor gets stuck on the status column and you just have to VO/left or right arrow to get to the messages column. Occasionally I have to shift/tab to get out of the scroll area. Mine does that every once in a while as well. If it's doing this most all of the time you may have to do a permissions repair or reinstall updates and/for SL. It's simply a focus issue as far as I can tell. On Nov 29, 2009, at 1:36 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: > Listers, > > how do I stop Mail from changing my message status when I scroll through my > unread messages? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium
Hi Mark: I certainly don't hold a grudge as everybody is entitled to their opinion. However, if it weren't for the Commission for the blind here in Oregon, there is no way that I could perform the job I was hired for. I had to have a programmer write JAWS scripts so that I could get to the buttons, read the drop down boxes that just had graphics for names, etc. I couldn't have afforded the thousands of dollars that has costed. He is working as we speak since the company I work for has changed software and everything we had done in the past regarding the original software is now null and void. I could have not afforded a Braille display at about 12,000 dollars. I can say with certainty that there are few if any companies that would provide any of these services. Unfortunately many government funded agencies, including the Oregon Commission for the blind do know little about Mac accessibility as they have contracts with certain vendors, and, face it,whether we like it or not, a majority of companies still use Windows based software. My husband and I both decided on our own to try the Mac, and though I've had some problems, I'm glad I did. I've learned it without an instructor. We nearly lost our Commission last summer so when I hear people talking about how we shouldn't have government agencies such as this, I have to disagree though they do have their problems. Yes, some people do rely on others to much, but not all of us do. Like you, I grew up in the public school system in a rural area. I was born blind also. I'll get off my soap box now. On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > You, and I to a lesser extent, and others are the exception. I was > born blind, didn't go to any institutions for the blind, was raised as > an only child, mostly in rural Vermont with minimal help from state > agencies. Graduated from Dartmouth when I was 20, again with minimal > if any help from agencies--didn't have my first experience with any > agencies or institutions for the blind until I was 24, when the > Carroll Center was offering a medical transcription course and I > needed another, safer place to be. They kicked me out of their dorm, > making me homeless, after six weeks there. Rehab flatly refused to > support me and my music career in any way, and pressured me to go to > the Carroll Center in the first place, then pressured me to get > therapy and reform my ways when they made me homeless. I only started > cautiously learning how to deal with the agencies in 2007, when it > became clear that my failing hearing was going to force me out of the > transcription career I'd had for 13+ years. I learned Jaws and > Windows essentially by myself, as I've always been good with tech. > Even now, while I may have learned a little about how to get along > with the agencies and get what I need, it's a very uneasy truce at > best./ I hope to be starting a job at another institution for the > blind soon, but this time as a trainer, not a student, which hopefully > will turn out better. You can see why I advocate for the abolition of > such systems. They do not foster independence of thinking, and tend > to punish outside-the-box people, in my experience. I do realize that > people blinded later in life may not adapt as fully as those born > blind; I'm learning that as I lose my hearing, so I have the privilege > of seeing both sides of the coin, but think about what that implies-- > that the pressure on those whose world has already been blasted by > losing their sight will essentially become putty in the hands of high- > pressure agencies who are set in their ways. The system seems to > punish at both ends--if you're too independent, you're pressured to > conform; if you're new to blindness, you're taught not to think for > yourself. Hell, I didn't even do mobility orienting stuff until last > year, when Rehab here in CA suggested I ry it, and I decided, in the > interests of keeping the peace, what the heck; my mobility teacher > quickly realized that there was very little, beyond the immediate > rehearsing of directions, that she could improve upon what I and my > dog were already going. Since I got Trekker, that's even more so; now > that Trekker is temporarily broken, I truly feel the loss. :) I don't > see how the agencies really have done me any good, other than in the > purely material realm, and if I weren't as articulate as I am about > stating my needs, and as forceful as I am about what I need, which > most people are not, even that gain might be minimal, and even now the > damage is significant. So, that's where my beef with the system(s) > comes in; sorry if that makes it a personal grudge, but there you are > then. > > > Mark BurningHawk Baxter > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBur
Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium
You've got a point. I wish I could do all of this on my own. OCB has been willing to step in after my employment to help me, but I know that many organizations don't. They do sign over expensive equipment which you are then responsible for getting repaired regardless of your income. I don't like to be baby sat, don't get me wrong, but I'm glad I have some assistance. I think that many do need to assess what they would do without these organizations. You've got me thinking now. On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Hi, Carlene. > > You are a perfect example of my point. Generally put, they did not > teach you to fish, they gave you some fish. Hell, I'm writing this on > the Macbook DOR of California bought me; listening with the hearing > aids they bought me... Maybe I'm a hypocrite, but I'm forced to use > the funding options available to me because that's how the world > works; I get that. It's not a solution to the problem, though, it's > just putting off the problem and burying the head in the sand, or > whatever I mean :) I suck at idioms. > > Let's suppose that the recession comes back in force. Banks fail, no > one's got money, inflation hits the roof. The first thing on the > chopping block will be that agency in Oregon, or CA, where we got our > equipment. Now, the equipment's broken, or obsolete, or we need > something new. What do we do? We still can't afford it, now there's > no umbrella to hide under, survival is getting grim; who's going to > baby-sit the blind when everyone's just trying to get by? The > agencies are not at all the best solution, and may in the long run do > more harm than good. That's all I meant; I meant no judgment of > those who use the systems to get what they need--I'm one of them. I > just don't feel very good about it at the end of the day...h > > > Mark BurningHawk Baxter > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
