Re: Ftp and Terminal mode

[Tyler Thompson]

You need to use a DNS lookup on the link to figure out the IP address.

Here’s what you type into the terminal prompt:

dig domain.name

Easy as that.
On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Hello 
> Please, can somebody give a hand to start an FTP by terminal? I have some 
> instructions, but it says that I need to wright the FTP’s IP address and the 
> only thing I have is an FTP link, the address that one uses as a host on an 
> FTP client.
> Thank you very much for your help!
> Best
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> El 21/01/2014, a las 16:31, Tim Emmons  escribió:
> 
>> Hi guys, got a question. I haven't had any great luck with any of the free 
>> Ftp clients as of yet, filezilla doesn't seem tow irk or maybe I'm missing 
>> something on the setup, not sure, cyberduck might work but I can't seem to 
>> get the download to work, but I am able to get into ftp using terminal. Once 
>> I've established a connection, got to a main directory say for instance 
>> books, and then the directory is divided into letters of the alphabet 
>> showing the author's first name, how do I first navigate to that directory 
>> list, and then how do I get a book from that author's particular listing. I 
>> am sort of new, but I like the terminal approach but just trying to learn. 
>> Thanks for any help. take care and talk to you soon. 
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Re: Ftp and Terminal mode

[Tyler Thompson]

This isn’t a direct answer to your question but up arrow cycles through the 
command history and would be preferable to copying and pasting into the 
terminal. 
On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Thank you for your answer. I am new with Terminal, and I still find it 
> sometimes hard to read the answers I get. In the FTP IP, for example, how do 
> I copy it, so I can use it again when starting the FTP commands?
> Thanks a lot again!
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
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> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> El 22/01/2014, a las 15:00, Tyler Thompson  
> escribió:
> 
>> You need to use a DNS lookup on the link to figure out the IP address.
>> 
>> Here’s what you type into the terminal prompt:
>> 
>> dig domain.name
>> 
>> Easy as that.
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello 
>>> Please, can somebody give a hand to start an FTP by terminal? I have some 
>>> instructions, but it says that I need to wright the FTP’s IP address and 
>>> the only thing I have is an FTP link, the address that one uses as a host 
>>> on an FTP client.
>>> Thank you very much for your help!
>>> Best
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>> iPhone: +34662328507
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> El 21/01/2014, a las 16:31, Tim Emmons  escribió:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys, got a question. I haven't had any great luck with any of the free 
>>>> Ftp clients as of yet, filezilla doesn't seem tow irk or maybe I'm missing 
>>>> something on the setup, not sure, cyberduck might work but I can't seem to 
>>>> get the download to work, but I am able to get into ftp using terminal. 
>>>> Once I've established a connection, got to a main directory say for 
>>>> instance books, and then the directory is divided into letters of the 
>>>> alphabet showing the author's first name, how do I first navigate to that 
>>>> directory list, and then how do I get a book from that author's particular 
>>>> listing. I am sort of new, but I like the terminal approach but just 
>>>> trying to learn. Thanks for any help. take care and talk to you soon. 
>>>> 
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Re: Macbook Sound

[Tyler Thompson]

boom has an equalizer for your system sound. Laptop speakers are never gonna be 
great though, especially if they're so small.
On Jan 26, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lee Jones  wrote:

>   Dear List I have noticed that my macbook air doesn't sound very 
> good when listening to podcasts or youtube videos   .  System 
> volume is at 60 percent and balance is at fifty percent in sounds system 
> preferences.  It sounds very unimpressive.  Any ideas?The voice over voice 
> sounds good, but other audio is dire.
> 
> Many thanks Lee   
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Re: Com.apple.com

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Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am trying to access the "downloads" folder where my mail attachments are 
> stored.
> From listening to a Mac Power Users podcast, the hosts provide the file path 
> as: 
> "/users/username/library/containers/com.apple.com/data/library/maildownloads."
> However, when trying to access this file path nothing happens, and when 
> trying to search for this "com.apple.com" folder within the various 
> subfolders of my directory, I am not able to locate it within the 
> "containers" folder.
> Does anyone have any ideas on where this folder may be located, or if the 
> folder has been changed to a new location?
> I am using Mavericks, and I want to access this folder so I can create a 
> Hazel rule to move the attached downloads to a different location on my HD.
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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Re: Com.apple.com

[Tyler Thompson]

It's a hidden folder as apple doesn't want people getting there, it's where 
apps store their info. Use cmd shift g from your folder (username) and type 
library/(rest of path minus the com.apple bit)

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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am trying to access the "downloads" folder where my mail attachments are 
> stored.
> From listening to a Mac Power Users podcast, the hosts provide the file path 
> as: 
> "/users/username/library/containers/com.apple.com/data/library/maildownloads."
> However, when trying to access this file path nothing happens, and when 
> trying to search for this "com.apple.com" folder within the various 
> subfolders of my directory, I am not able to locate it within the 
> "containers" folder.
> Does anyone have any ideas on where this folder may be located, or if the 
> folder has been changed to a new location?
> I am using Mavericks, and I want to access this folder so I can create a 
> Hazel rule to move the attached downloads to a different location on my HD.
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
> 
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Re: iMud

[Tyler Thompson]

https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/iMud.app?attredirects=0&d=1  there's a 
fresh download link, this one should work just fine.
On Jun 1, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> To give further clarification: yes, this is the case. Classic support was 
> dropped in Leopard.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMud
>  
> Hi, Tyler.
>  
> I tried to open the app, but it told me I couldn't because the classic 
> environment was no longer supported. Any thoughts on why this might occur?
>  
> Shannon
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everybody,
> 
>  
> 
> I spent some time posting about iMud the accessible MUD client for OSX. 
> Unfortunately due to a new (and very demanding) job I haven't had the chance 
> to work on it in the past nine months. It's a good program and I feel like 
> it's needed so I've put up a dummy website for people to download the 
> pre-release beta. It functions sufficiently. I can't guarantee it'll be 
> compatible with everybody's MAC but I do think it'll be useable, which is a 
> good start.
> 
>  
> 
> I will continue to work on the project when I have time. The beta will be 
> free and I will do my best to fix any outstanding issues you may encounter as 
> quickly as possible. Here's a direct link to download iMud: 
> https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/iMudForOsx.app?attredirects=0&d=1 
> and one for the google site: https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/ 
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you for your patience and continued support.
> 
>  
> 
> Tyler
> 
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iMud Status

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello Everybody,

I spent some time posting about iMud the accessible MUD client for OSX. 
Unfortunately due to a new (and very demanding) job I haven't had the chance to 
work on it in the past nine months. It's a good program and I feel like it's 
needed so I've put up a dummy website for people to download the pre-release 
beta. It functions sufficiently. I can't guarantee it'll be compatible with 
everybody's MAC but I do think it'll be useable, which is a good start.

I will continue to work on the project when I have time. The beta will 
be free and I will do my best to fix any outstanding issues you may encounter 
as quickly as possible. Here's a direct link to download iMud: 
https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/iMudForOsx.app?attredirects=0&d=1 and 
one for the google site: https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/ 

Thank you for your patience and continued support.

Tyler

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Re: iMud

[Tyler Thompson]

Alright, I'll post a different version, it should work for everybody
On Jun 1, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> I'm getting the same error as well.
> The app was probably compiled for an earlier version of OS X or different 
> architecture (I'm running it on 10.9.3 on a MacBook air).
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMud
>  
> Hi, Tyler.
>  
> I tried to open the app, but it told me I couldn't because the classic 
> environment was no longer supported. Any thoughts on why this might occur?
>  
> Shannon
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everybody,
> 
>  
> 
> I spent some time posting about iMud the accessible MUD client for OSX. 
> Unfortunately due to a new (and very demanding) job I haven't had the chance 
> to work on it in the past nine months. It's a good program and I feel like 
> it's needed so I've put up a dummy website for people to download the 
> pre-release beta. It functions sufficiently. I can't guarantee it'll be 
> compatible with everybody's MAC but I do think it'll be useable, which is a 
> good start.
> 
>  
> 
> I will continue to work on the project when I have time. The beta will be 
> free and I will do my best to fix any outstanding issues you may encounter as 
> quickly as possible. Here's a direct link to download iMud: 
> https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/iMudForOsx.app?attredirects=0&d=1 
> and one for the google site: https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/ 
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you for your patience and continued support.
> 
>  
> 
> Tyler
> 
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Re: iMud

[Tyler Thompson]

Yes, this is due to the fact you aren't running OSX 10.8+ I can send you a 
private email with a version that works from 10.6+ but I cannot guarantee it 
will function at 100% (it's all dependent on your OS version) 
On Jun 1, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Shannon Dyer  wrote:

> Hi, Tyler.
> 
> I tried to open the app, but it told me I couldn't because the classic 
> environment was no longer supported. Any thoughts on why this might occur?
> 
> Shannon
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Tyler  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everybody,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I spent some time posting about iMud the accessible MUD client for OSX. 
>> Unfortunately due to a new (and very demanding) job I haven't had the chance 
>> to work on it in the past nine months. It's a good program and I feel like 
>> it's needed so I've put up a dummy website for people to download the 
>> pre-release beta. It functions sufficiently. I can't guarantee it'll be 
>> compatible with everybody's MAC but I do think it'll be useable, which is a 
>> good start.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will continue to work on the project when I have time. The beta will be 
>> free and I will do my best to fix any outstanding issues you may encounter 
>> as quickly as possible. Here's a direct link to download iMud: 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/iMudForOsx.app?attredirects=0&d=1 
>> and one for the google site: https://sites.google.com/site/imudforosx/ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your patience and continued support.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tyler
>> 
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Re: apple script and I message.

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While that's possible using applescript I'd recommend a much simpler solution. 
Just send the "X is typing" as a system notification. You could target it just 
to voiceover users but as a notification it may be more universally useful. 
Here's a link on how to do that with applescript: 
http://macosxautomation.com/mavericks/notifications/01.html 
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 9:32 AM, KJSC radio  wrote:
> 
> Hello all. so I do have a question. I'm thinking about writing an apple 
> script on mac to notify a voiceover user when an I message user is typing and 
> to have it play a sound when it is not focused in the I message app. my 
> question to you all is, is there a way that this can be done using like an 
> object handle or something, and if so, how can I properly script this. I 
> would probably have to make an if statement if I don't want that script to be 
> active when voiceover is off. Remember, I only want this to happen for 
> voiceover users. Is this possible to do?
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Re: track changes in an RTF?

[Tyler Thompson]

Rtf files can be opened by any text editor. TextEdit can handle it and pages 
should be able to handle it. Surprisingly safari can open rtf files as well. I 
would check to make sure it's really an rtf and not a file.rtf.sneakextension 

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> On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Aleeha Dudley  
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> 
> hey all,
> I received an RTF with track changes in it. How can I access them on my Mac? 
> It appears that Pages won’t open the file.
> Thanks,
> Aleeha 
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Re: Wordpress.com mystery

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When you cleared your history did you also make sure to clear your cookies and 
any cached data?
> On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, all:
> 
> For the past hour or so, I have been attempting to get onto wordpress.com. I 
> cannot load the main site, my blog, or any other blogs I read on the site. I 
> have even tried searching through Google. The URL’s come up, but nothing on 
> the site will load.
> I checked with a few people who say they are having no trouble.
> This is happening on both my iPhone using the wordpress app and Safari, and 
> on my MacBook Air.
> I am having no trouble reaching any other web sites.
> Any thoughts/suggestions? TIA.
> Christine
> P.S. I have rebooted both the computer and phone, have cleared my history and 
> signed out, then back into,  the app, to no avail. 
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Microsoft RDP on Mac problem

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Hey Everybody,

So I’m using Microsoft RDP for the Mac which has worked surprisingly 
well considering it’s a Microsoft product running on apple technology. I 
recently ran into a spectacularly interesting problem that I’m wondering if 
anybody can shed some light on. One of my remote desktop sessions was 
connecting to a Lady’s Machine, her machine was running JAWS (at the time 14) 
and she had high-contrast turned on. Now obviously JAWS doesn’t play well with 
remote sessions but that’s not really the problem.

The first time I remoted into her machine everything went well, there 
were no errors and I logged out. The second time when I remoted in to her 
machine it got the “blue screen of death” and proceeded to crash and restart. 
It’s also worth noting that a couple of weeks after I remoted in the first time 
JAWS started acting up, apparently cutting out frequently. Every since my 
second remote session I simply cannot remote into her machine without it 
crashing and getting that infamous blue screen.

Okay so it was time for her to get a new machine anyways, so we ordered 
her a new computer (rather nice, HP, i7 processor etc…) and I started setting 
it up. Now for reasons unrelated to this issue I usually set up a machine 
remotely, even if it’s sitting in my office and this is where life gets weird. 
We have everybody set up on an Active Directory domain so in order to remote 
into the new machine I duplicated her old Remote desktop profile and just 
changed the machine name to match the new one I was setting up.

Upon doing this I realized that her machine was in high-contrast. I 
assumed it was some how tied into her AD profile. The machine ran fine, I was 
able to set up everything as normal (installed office, the free version of 
Window Eyes etc…). Then I installed JAWS 16 (the demo version from the freedom 
scientific website). The moment JAWS ran for the first time her brand new 
computer had the same blue screen and proceeded to crash and restart.

The first thing to mention is I’ve got other people on our network who 
are running JAWS and have remoted into their machines using Mac RDP without 
issue. The next thing is that a colleague of mine remoted in using windows RDP 
without issue to BOTH machines mentioned in this email. Eventually I solved the 
issue by deleting both RDP profiles and re-creating them. I can now remote in 
to both machines without issue.

So to sum up my questions does anybody have any clue how or why this 
remote desktop profile on the Mac would crash the remote machine ONLY when JAWS 
is running? These problems were inexplicably tied in with JAWS (debateable 
whether high-contrast had an effect). We have enough JAWS users on the network 
that it’s worth my time to try and track down this issue.

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Re: new iPhone user question

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Under settings > mail, contacts, calendars > select your account > select your 
email address > go to the password section and type yours in, it should now 
save 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Terry Sanders  wrote:
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> Hello List,
> 
>   Well, I've been following all of your posts for quite a while.  Now, I have 
> made the plunge.  I just bought a macbook pro and an iPhone 5s. Here is my 
> first question that I haven't been able to find an answer for.  I have at&t 
> for my cell carrier.  When I try to access my email I am asked to input my 
> password.  While I am in a call nothing is spoken on the screen.  So, how do 
> I either input my password, or how to I get the phone to save and input it 
> automatically?  I hope this is not to confusing to understand.  I appreciate 
> your thoughts.  I am enjoying using the mac book pro as well.
> 
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Re: help with unix commands

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The issue is that you didn’t put a slash between your tilde (home directory) 
and documents and the folder ~documents doesn’t exist, try this command:

cp * ~/documents/VoiceDreamWriter

(you can leave out that final slash as well)
> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> In a terminal session, I have navigated to the voice dream writer folder of 
> iCloud
> and I now want the ability to copy that folder’s contents to my main 
> documents folder. Here is the command I have been attempting in terminal, 
> which is returning a usage error.
> 
> CP *.* ~documents/VoiceDreamWriter/
> 
> I used to be a wiz with DzOS, and I know UNIX isn’t all that dissimilar, but 
> I can’t figure out my mistake.
> Can anyone tell me the syntax for copying the contents of a folder to another 
> folder?
> BTW: the reason I’m doing this in terminal
> and not in finder is because the contents of the ~library/mobile 
> documents/VDW/documents folder aren’t visible to finder, but they are in 
> terminal.
> 
> Any help appreciated.
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Re: Toggle Bluetooth Script

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I’d personally just add the sound effect after you end the tell, that way 
you’re not waiting on system preferences to close but the sound alerts you to 
when bluetooth has been toggled.
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, I’ve needed to update my toggle bluetooth script & thankfully I found 
> one on the web.  My question is, in the below script, where would I add in a 
> sound effect?  Beep 3, something like that.
> tell application "System Preferences"
>   reveal pane "com.apple.preferences.Bluetooth"
> end tell
> tell application "System Events" to tell process "System Preferences"
>   click button 6 of window 1
> end tell
> quit application "System Preferences"
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Developing an App

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Some clarification is necessary before you can receive any real answers to this 
question. First of all it appears to me you want this to be web based. Writing 
web apps or even websites is immensely different than writing an application 
that runs on iOS or OS X. App development (both kinds of apps that I’ve 
mentioned above) has been my job now for several years.

Now on a very basic level it sounds to me like you just want a forum that 
allows for anonymous posting. Developing this yourself requires a lot of skill 
because as soon as you allow people to write information on your server you are 
allowing for all kinds of injection attacks. If I were you and I was trying to 
accomplish this goal I’d look at using some pre-made forums from developers who 
have been doing it for years and have sealed up all the security breeches 
you’re bound to leave open if you attempt this yourself without experience.

If you’re looking to develop this on the mac or the iPhone you’ve just 
restricted your user-base to apple people. Now I love apple people but your 
email eludes that you need anybody from any device to be able to ask a 
question, that means you simply must have it be a web app. If you have any  
more questions please feel free to contact me on or off the list.
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Josh  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> I need help finding an accessible program that will allow me to develop apps. 
> I have never done this so when I Googled the process I received tons of 
> results, but nothing saying whether it was accessible or not. Can anyone 
> direct me to where I would go to either listen to a step-by-step 
> demonstration on creating an app or somewhere that is going to provide 
> detailed instructions. Alternatively, if someone has the knowledge that they 
> would be willing to share with me regarding how they create apps on list or 
> off list on developing this app, read below for description, then I would 
> love to hear the ideas. Offlist address:
> lawdog...@comcast.net 
> Description of what I am wanting to do:   
>   I am looking to develop an app for my institution where I can have people 
> post anonymous questions to the app and have others respond to the questions. 
> The disability department there are concerned that not everyone is receiving 
> the attention that they need due to not wanting to identify themselves as 
> having a disability. I feel that the app will accomplish this goal. There 
> apps out there like I am wanting to create such as YikYak, but the rules will 
> not be as liberal on the app I am wanting to create as they are on YikYak. 
> Thank you all for any advice you can offer on this matter.
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Re: Need Pointers Regarding OSX Software Developement Environment (SDE)

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Alex is pretty much dead on.  Xcode is your best bet for an accessible GUI 
based tool that will compile in C/C++. make/nmake are theoretically available 
but you’ll need a wine wrapper, see this stack overflow post: 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3483146/using-nmake-on-osx 
 

Xcode also comes with a set of command-line tools that you’ll need if you’re 
determined to write programs in C.

Now to expand on your question a little I would say it really sounds like 
you’re wanting to just write software on the mac. While you can definitely do 
this in c and c++ you’ll find it much more efficient to use Objective-C and 
(when they work out a few more kinks) swift. Xcode is hailed as one of most 
advanced IDE’s available and the fact that it’s free certainly adds to it’s 
appeal. My advice would be to think of OS X as it’s own operating system rather 
than UNIX with a skin on top. Yes it’s technically true but if you take it as 
it’s own independent platform and treat it as such while you’re coding you’ll 
find it works smoother and responds better than if you try to treat it like a 
UNIX machine.

> On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:17 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Knowing that the underlying operating system in OSX is some version of UNIX, 
> I have some quite detailed  curiosities about how to design, code, compile 
> and manage software I may want to develop personally.
> 
> Specifically:
> 
> - is there a native C compiler available for OSX?
> 
> - are make/nmake available as well?
> - are software management tools readily available?
> - are GUI based tools accessible via VoiceOver?
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
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Re: wiress troubleshooting

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It’d be nice to know what kind of router and what kind of device.
> On Apr 28, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jean  wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> I have noticed that my wifi has been unsteady of late.  Before I call Apple I 
> want to ensure that I have checked all the systems.  Here is what I have done 
> thus far:
> 
> 1.  Had the service provider replace both the modem and the router.
> 2.  Done repair permissions and other routine maintainence tasks.
> 3.  Turned the computer off and back on.
> 
> So what would be my next step?  What upload and download speed site is 
> accessible and also reliable?  Are there settings in system preferences I 
> should check?
> 
> As always, all help is appreciated.
> 
> Jean
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Re: I'm Blacklisted From EU Right of Withdrawal Refunds

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Have you called apple yet? Surely talking to someone about this can rectify the 
situation, especially if you explain what’s up.

> On May 14, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Whether temporarily or permanently, I don’t yet know, but it would appear 
> that Apple have blacklisted me from no-questions-asked refunds, as described 
> here:
> http://readwrite.com/2015/01/13/apple-blocks-app-store-refund-abusers
> 
> I’ve only used the facility once to return an inaccessible Mac app from the 
> MAS.  However, it seems that after a justified refund of an iOS app, now in 
> progress, which I explicitly indicated was for accessibility reasons, my 
> account is in the blacklisted state and I can no longer buy apps without 
> waving my rights (which I’m fairly sure verges on the illegal if not 
> actually).
> 
> If you are hoping, as I was, that this refund process might help you 
> rightfully return digital products that are not fit for purpose because they 
> are inaccessible, you might have to think again.  I’d just arranged things to 
> make more use of this feature, by turning off automatic downloads and 
> removing every app from my devices and iTunes, with the intention of testing 
> every incoming app and ultimately ending up only with those apps which should 
> justifiably be on my devices and on my account because they were accessible.  
> Sadly, this doesn’t seem to be possible now.  I of course think it should.  
> We shouldn’t be paying for apps which aren’t accessible, merely because it’s 
> easy to do so and hard to avoid.
> 
> I’ll let you know if my account ever ceases to be blacklisted.  If you have 
> any information, let me know.  It’s entirely possible the normal state of 
> affairs will resume after my outstanding refund is complete, but I’d love to 
> hear if anyone else has had this issue after just two refunds.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: java and yosemite

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This is a fantastic problem that I myself had. It turns out there’s a version 
of Java out there that points somewhere invalid. If you do a google search for 
Java Download and simply download it directly from the correct website address 
(instead of that more information link) you’ll find the version error goes away.
> On May 14, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
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> Hi all!
> \I keep getting a message that I need to install Java, there is a click this 
> button for more information.  I have it installed but it says it can't verify 
> ithe java version which is 8.4.5 I believe.  Do I really need Java?  How do i 
> make this message go a way?
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Re: XCode Busy

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It’s also worth mentioning that the swift compiler slows down dramatically with 
files over 1,000 lines when it tries to index. 
> On May 21, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> This has been a problem sense Xcode 5, but it has improved with 6.
> I have found that with the current version, going to the system 
> preferences/general and setting show scroll bars to either “automatically 
> based on mouse or trackpad” or “when scrolling” largely improves the 
> situation.  However, note the in the arguments tab of edit schemes dialog 
> will freeze vo unless you set show scroll bars to always.
> 
> Usually if this happens though, you can just command-tab away and back to the 
> project window to break loose when it hangs with the exception of the schemes 
> box.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> On May 21, 2015, at 5:13 PM, James Lee  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to give XCode a try again. I didn't have this problem when I used 
> it with Mountain Lion a couple of years ago. However, Voiceover gets stuck 
> and keeps saying busy. Only way is to quit XCode and rerun.
> It happens so frequently that it makes it impossible to navigate to different 
> parts of screen.
> I'm using XCode 6.3.2 on Yosemite 10.10.3.
> Does anyone have this problem? Is there a workaround for this?
> Thanks,
> 
> JL
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Re: accessible ssh client

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Why not use terminal?
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
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> Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?
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Re: accessible ssh client

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Nope, this was my mistake for not reading the entire message first.

> On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> One of us is missing something. Is there a terminal app for IOS?
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/12/2015 02:01 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote:
>> Why not use terminal?
>>> On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?
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Re: haptic feedback on Watch for timer

[Tyler Thompson]

I recently had my haptic feedback stop for all notifications, alarms and even 
siri. It seems that going into settings and turning on prominent haptic, then 
holding the button and powering off the watch, giving it a few seconds and 
powering it back on solved my issues.

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> My Watch seems to have lost track of the haptic feedback for the timer. It 
> now just gives the audible alarm with no tap or buzz. 
> 
> I’m thinking I just need to un-pair and re-pair the Watch as some other 
> things are getting a bit off track as well. 
> 
> Has anyone had this happen? Right now it’s not a frustration but when I was 
> in the gym and couldn’t really hear the alarm well, and was on an arm bike, 
> that haptic really helped know when my workout time was up. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
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Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!

[Tyler Thompson]

I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. So 
my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally speaking 
anything that you might consider “junk” has the potential to be an incredibly 
useful resource. Mac was designed off of an operating system called unix. Unix 
had the job of running on highly sophisticated servers for long periods of 
time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make sure that “junk” never 
even got written to your hard drive.

Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
“junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it there. 
I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine that was 
already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) aren’t preventative 
nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The moral of the story is just 
don’t worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly take it to somebody 
that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the system. 

Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) not 
necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem exists 
there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system that in 
general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce are more 
serious.



> On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should keep? 
>  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  I reckon 
> this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness > > wrote:
>> 
>> Chris,
>> Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
>> absolutely wonderful to use!
>> 
>> I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
>> miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even more 
>> then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, and can 
>> do, for you.
>> 
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have got 
>>> to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I didn't even 
>>> know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to finnish the clean 
>>> process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting there.  It clames 
>>> that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I 
>>> don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that 
>>> dumb.  LOL!
>>>  
>>> I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I haven't 
>>> used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, like PLists 
>>> etc.
>>>  
>>> Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! recommend 
>>> this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a little pricy, but 
>>> for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's going to prove to be 
>>> fabulous!
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>> ---
>>> Visit me online:
>>>  
>>> http://www.clgproductions.net 
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Re: Trasferring file.

[Tyler Thompson]

If you want to do it with terminal you could use ftp. But you may find that it 
is possible to email this file (using mac mail). I’m not sure of your operating 
system but a while back apple put in mail drop to help with incredibly large 
files. I’m not sure if it’ll accommodate 10 gigs but it may be worth a shot.
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 08:15, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all.
> Is it possible to transfer a very large file, about 10 GB, from a mac 
> computer to another one, via the internet, maybe using some terminal command?
> I am lookingfor a solution which doesn't include a third party service like 
> iCloud, Dropbox or whatever.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Gabriel.
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Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello,

I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible typing 
program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for (The New 
Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a cross-platform typing program 
called Keystroke. You can download it from our website here 
. It is in it’s early stages but has 
some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to listen to any 
feature requests you all might have. Most importantly this software is now and 
always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of it’s features below.


Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the first 
typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native english 
speakers).
Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to give the 
best chance of learning to type correctly.
The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students are using 
the caps lock key correct (thus eliminating the caps + letter + caps syndrome)
Completely customizable lessons (so you can add, or edit your own lessons to 
your hearts desire).
Along with this comes the “Lesson calculator” which is designed to give you 
feedback on your custom lessons, how complex they are, how long it’ll take a 
student to type them etc..)
The ability to import/export lessons. So if you create lessons you’d like to 
share or someone else has made some you think are cool it’s very easy to open 
them and use them with Keystroke.
Because of it’s compatibility with braille displays it can be used to test 
Braille writing speeds.
It learns from you as you type and gives useful feedback via the “Keyboard 
Assistant” (This can even provide directional feedback such as: “The j key is 2 
keys to the right”)
Designed to work natively with VoiceOver


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Re: Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

No, Mine is a state website http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html 
<http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html> and it is 100%, no trials.
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:02, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> hello is this your site? http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes 
> <http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes>
> but this is not free but there are free trial version.
>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 9:27 PM, Tyler Thompson > <mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible typing 
>> program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for (The 
>> New Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a cross-platform typing 
>> program called Keystroke. You can download it from our website here 
>> <http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html>. It is in it’s early stages but 
>> has some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to listen to 
>> any feature requests you all might have. Most importantly this software is 
>> now and always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of it’s features below.
>> 
>> 
>> Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the first 
>> typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native english 
>> speakers).
>> Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to give 
>> the best chance of learning to type correctly.
>> The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
>> Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students are 
>> using the caps lock key correct (thus eliminating the caps + letter + caps 
>> syndrome)
>> Completely customizable lessons (so you can add, or edit your own lessons to 
>> your hearts desire).
>> Along with this comes the “Lesson calculator” which is designed to give you 
>> feedback on your custom lessons, how complex they are, how long it’ll take a 
>> student to type them etc..)
>> The ability to import/export lessons. So if you create lessons you’d like to 
>> share or someone else has made some you think are cool it’s very easy to 
>> open them and use them with Keystroke.
>> Because of it’s compatibility with braille displays it can be used to test 
>> Braille writing speeds.
>> It learns from you as you type and gives useful feedback via the “Keyboard 
>> Assistant” (This can even provide directional feedback such as: “The j key 
>> is 2 keys to the right”)
>> Designed to work natively with VoiceOver
>> 
>> 
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Re: Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

It does work for Windows. In it’s current form I would say it’s more for adults 
(as in there’s not a lot “fun” about it yet) but I’ve already designed the 
first Keystroke game (which will come out in the next release of the windows 
and mac versions). And I sincerely hope as time goes on it’ll be for any age.
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:11, Marianne Denning  wrote:
> 
> Is this designed for adults only?  Will it work with Windows too?
> 
> On 8/27/15, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:
>> hello is this your site? http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes
>> <http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes>
>> but this is not free but there are free trial version.
>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 9:27 PM, Tyler Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible typing
>>> program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for
>>> (The New Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a cross-platform
>>> typing program called Keystroke. You can download it from our website here
>>> <http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html>. It is in it’s early stages
>>> but has some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to
>>> listen to any feature requests you all might have. Most importantly this
>>> software is now and always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of it’s
>>> features below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the first
>>> typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native
>>> english speakers).
>>> Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to
>>> give the best chance of learning to type correctly.
>>> The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
>>> Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students are
>>> using the caps lock key correct (thus eliminating the caps + letter + caps
>>> syndrome)
>>> Completely customizable lessons (so you can add, or edit your own lessons
>>> to your hearts desire).
>>> Along with this comes the “Lesson calculator” which is designed to give
>>> you feedback on your custom lessons, how complex they are, how long it’ll
>>> take a student to type them etc..)
>>> The ability to import/export lessons. So if you create lessons you’d like
>>> to share or someone else has made some you think are cool it’s very easy
>>> to open them and use them with Keystroke.
>>> Because of it’s compatibility with braille displays it can be used to test
>>> Braille writing speeds.
>>> It learns from you as you type and gives useful feedback via the “Keyboard
>>> Assistant” (This can even provide directional feedback such as: “The j key
>>> is 2 keys to the right”)
>>> Designed to work natively with VoiceOver
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

Actually I’m quite proud of this, It works with the native screen reader. So it 
supports Window Eyes, JAWS and NVDA and communicates with them directly on a 
software level (no need for you to do much more than change the preferences of 
your screen reader)
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:13, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Just curious but what does the Windows version use in terms of accessibility? 
> Screen reader APIs? SAPI? Bit of both?
>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 21:13, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> It does work for Windows. In it’s current form I would say it’s more for 
>> adults (as in there’s not a lot “fun” about it yet) but I’ve already 
>> designed the first Keystroke game (which will come out in the next release 
>> of the windows and mac versions). And I sincerely hope as time goes on it’ll 
>> be for any age.
>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:11, Marianne Denning  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this designed for adults only?  Will it work with Windows too?
>>> 
>>> On 8/27/15, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:
>>>> hello is this your site? http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes
>>>> <http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes>
>>>> but this is not free but there are free trial version.
>>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 9:27 PM, Tyler Thompson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible typing
>>>>> program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for
>>>>> (The New Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a cross-platform
>>>>> typing program called Keystroke. You can download it from our website here
>>>>> <http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html>. It is in it’s early stages
>>>>> but has some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to
>>>>> listen to any feature requests you all might have. Most importantly this
>>>>> software is now and always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of it’s
>>>>> features below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the first
>>>>> typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native
>>>>> english speakers).
>>>>> Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to
>>>>> give the best chance of learning to type correctly.
>>>>> The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
>>>>> Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students are
>>>>> using the caps lock key correct (thus eliminating the caps + letter + caps
>>>>> syndrome)
>>>>> Completely customizable lessons (so you can add, or edit your own lessons
>>>>> to your hearts desire).
>>>>> Along with this comes the “Lesson calculator” which is designed to give
>>>>> you feedback on your custom lessons, how complex they are, how long it’ll
>>>>> take a student to type them etc..)
>>>>> The ability to import/export lessons. So if you create lessons you’d like
>>>>> to share or someone else has made some you think are cool it’s very easy
>>>>> to open them and use them with Keystroke.
>>>>> Because of it’s compatibility with braille displays it can be used to test
>>>>> Braille writing speeds.
>>>>> It learns from you as you type and gives useful feedback via the “Keyboard
>>>>> Assistant” (This can even provide directional feedback such as: “The j key
>>>>> is 2 keys to the right”)
>>>>> Designed to work natively with VoiceOver
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

Feel free to email me off-list with your comments/suggestions/feature requests.
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:16, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Oh ok sounds good. Downloaded the Mac version, will check out the Windows 
> version too. I can type, I hope :-) but always good to have a refresher, 
> right?
>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually I’m quite proud of this, It works with the native screen reader. So 
>> it supports Window Eyes, JAWS and NVDA and communicates with them directly 
>> on a software level (no need for you to do much more than change the 
>> preferences of your screen reader)
>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:13, christopher hallsworth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just curious but what does the Windows version use in terms of 
>>> accessibility? Screen reader APIs? SAPI? Bit of both?
>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 21:13, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It does work for Windows. In it’s current form I would say it’s more for 
>>>> adults (as in there’s not a lot “fun” about it yet) but I’ve already 
>>>> designed the first Keystroke game (which will come out in the next release 
>>>> of the windows and mac versions). And I sincerely hope as time goes on 
>>>> it’ll be for any age.
>>>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:11, Marianne Denning  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this designed for adults only?  Will it work with Windows too?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/27/15, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:
>>>>>> hello is this your site? http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes
>>>>>> <http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes>
>>>>>> but this is not free but there are free trial version.
>>>>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 9:27 PM, Tyler Thompson 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible 
>>>>>>> typing
>>>>>>> program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for
>>>>>>> (The New Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a cross-platform
>>>>>>> typing program called Keystroke. You can download it from our website 
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> <http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html>. It is in it’s early stages
>>>>>>> but has some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to
>>>>>>> listen to any feature requests you all might have. Most importantly this
>>>>>>> software is now and always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of it’s
>>>>>>> features below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the 
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native
>>>>>>> english speakers).
>>>>>>> Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to
>>>>>>> give the best chance of learning to type correctly.
>>>>>>> The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
>>>>>>> Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students are
>>>>>>> using the caps lock key correct (thus eliminating the caps + letter + 
>>>>>>> caps
>>>>>>> syndrome)
>>>>>>> Completely customizable lessons (so you can add, or edit your own 
>>>>>>> lessons
>>>>>>> to your hearts desire).
>>>>>>> Along with this comes the “Lesson calculator” which is designed to give
>>>>>>> you feedback on your custom lessons, how complex they are, how long 
>>>>>>> it’ll
>>>>>>> take a student to type them etc..)
>>>>>>> The ability to import/export lessons. So if you create lessons you’d 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to share or someone else has made some you think are cool it’s very easy
>>>>>>> to open them and use them with Keystroke.
>>>>>>> Because of it’s compatibility with braille displays it can be used to 
>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>> Braille writing speeds.
>>>>>>> It learns f

Re: Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

The spacebar is your repeat key, press the spacebar twice and it’ll spell out 
any word/letters.
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:23, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> hello i just tried it, and i like though on the second practise i can't heard 
> much the letters what he's saying like dk. 
>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 10:17 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Feel free to email me off-list with your comments/suggestions/feature 
>> requests.
>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:16, christopher hallsworth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh ok sounds good. Downloaded the Mac version, will check out the Windows 
>>> version too. I can type, I hope :-) but always good to have a refresher, 
>>> right?
>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Actually I’m quite proud of this, It works with the native screen reader. 
>>>> So it supports Window Eyes, JAWS and NVDA and communicates with them 
>>>> directly on a software level (no need for you to do much more than change 
>>>> the preferences of your screen reader)
>>>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:13, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just curious but what does the Windows version use in terms of 
>>>>> accessibility? Screen reader APIs? SAPI? Bit of both?
>>>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 21:13, Tyler Thompson  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It does work for Windows. In it’s current form I would say it’s more for 
>>>>>> adults (as in there’s not a lot “fun” about it yet) but I’ve already 
>>>>>> designed the first Keystroke game (which will come out in the next 
>>>>>> release of the windows and mac versions). And I sincerely hope as time 
>>>>>> goes on it’ll be for any age.
>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 14:11, Marianne Denning  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is this designed for adults only?  Will it work with Windows too?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/27/15, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:
>>>>>>>> hello is this your site? 
>>>>>>>> http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes
>>>>>>>> <http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes>
>>>>>>>> but this is not free but there are free trial version.
>>>>>>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 9:27 PM, Tyler Thompson 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible 
>>>>>>>>> typing
>>>>>>>>> program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for
>>>>>>>>> (The New Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a 
>>>>>>>>> cross-platform
>>>>>>>>> typing program called Keystroke. You can download it from our website 
>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html>. It is in it’s early 
>>>>>>>>> stages
>>>>>>>>> but has some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to
>>>>>>>>> listen to any feature requests you all might have. Most importantly 
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> software is now and always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of 
>>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>> features below.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the 
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native
>>>>>>>>> english speakers).
>>>>>>>>> Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to
>>>>>>>>> give the best chance of learning to type correctly.
>>>>>>>>> The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
>>>>>>>>> Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students 
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> using the cap

Re: Keystroke: A cross-platform typing program.

[Tyler Thompson]

The shift key actually does work, it’s just that Keystroke (customizable by the 
user preferences) expects you to use the correct shift (i.e. the left shift for 
keys in the right hand and the right shift for keys in the left hand).

Press COMMAND + , (command comma) to bring up the user preferences, navigate to 
the “Lesson” tab and uncheck “Require correct (left/right) shift keys” to 
disable this feature.

I had at one point worked on an accessible MUD client, it worked alright but 
didn’t use VoiceOver it just used a speech synthesizer. I abandoned the project 
after a while though as life got in the way.
> On Aug 27, 2015, at 15:58, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I have one huge bug. The shift key doesn’t work, so it always gives errors. 
> Now, if only you could make an accessible MUD client, lol.
>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Tyler Thompson > <mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  I’m aware that there are many people looking for an accessible typing 
>> program for the mac. I’m proud to say that today the agency I work for (The 
>> New Mexico Commission For The Blind) has released a cross-platform typing 
>> program called Keystroke. You can download it from our website here 
>> <http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/Keystroke.html>. It is in it’s early stages but 
>> has some promising results and as the developer I’d be willing to listen to 
>> any feature requests you all might have. Most importantly this software is 
>> now and always will be 100% free. I’ll outline some of it’s features below.
>> 
>> 
>> Keystroke works with various braille displays, making it one of the first 
>> typing programs that can be used with the deaf-blind (or non-native english 
>> speakers).
>> Default lessons that were built based on a lot of in-class research to give 
>> the best chance of learning to type correctly.
>> The ability to use the correct (left/right) shift keys.
>> Along with this Keystroke has the ability to make sure that students are 
>> using the caps lock key correct (thus eliminating the caps + letter + caps 
>> syndrome)
>> Completely customizable lessons (so you can add, or edit your own lessons to 
>> your hearts desire).
>> Along with this comes the “Lesson calculator” which is designed to give you 
>> feedback on your custom lessons, how complex they are, how long it’ll take a 
>> student to type them etc..)
>> The ability to import/export lessons. So if you create lessons you’d like to 
>> share or someone else has made some you think are cool it’s very easy to 
>> open them and use them with Keystroke.
>> Because of it’s compatibility with braille displays it can be used to test 
>> Braille writing speeds.
>> It learns from you as you type and gives useful feedback via the “Keyboard 
>> Assistant” (This can even provide directional feedback such as: “The j key 
>> is 2 keys to the right”)
>> Designed to work natively with VoiceOver
>> 
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Re: Lisp interpreters for OS X that work with VO?

[Tyler Thompson]

No promise on accessibility but try Clozure CL. It’s free if nothing else.
> On Mar 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this is random and not a common thing, but does anyone know of a Lisp 
> environment that runs on the Mac and that VO will get along with? I don't 
> know if it'll last, but right now I'm kind of interested in learning Lisp, 
> just because. I'll use Common Lisp, not Scheme or other implementations, if 
> that matters. Thanks.
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Re: Typing Program

[Tyler Thompson]

http://www.cfb.state.nm.us/apps  is the URI
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:23 PM, David Tanner  wrote:
> 
> To get the keystroke program you know now I have to go to the main webpage 
> for the New Mexico commission for the blind I not sure of the exact web mail 
> address but it would be the main web address for the New Mexico commission 
> for the blind and take the link from the main page
> 
> David Tanner
> 
> From my iPhone 6 S
> 
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Kat DeNicola  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I'm looking for a program on the mac to teach typing. I did a search and 
>> found a post about one called Keystroke, but I get a 404 error when I go to 
>> the link for it.  Anyone know what happened to it? Or have any ideas for 
>> other programs? I tried XType, but either I'm missing something, or it's not 
>> accessible anymore because I'm just getting voiceover telling me there are 
>> letters with images. Thanks.
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Re: 5/12/16

[Tyler Thompson]

frequently, poor grammar isn’t just a result of not knowing english correctly 
but also an attempt to get past your spam filter, which, clearly worked.


> On May 12, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> You’ think that these people would know to correct their english.  Apple does 
> not write it’s emails like Baboo from Seinfeld!
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2016, at 10:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I would say so based on the piss poor grammar. It could be a phishing 
>> attempt.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 5/12/2016 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>> What does this mean? Is this a spam message?
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 *From: *iCloud Team mailto:jsmith...@aol.com>>
 *Subject: **5/12/16*
 *Date: *May 12, 2016 at 8:59:36 AM CDT
 *To: *bbssh...@icloud.com 
 
 Dear bbssh...@icloud.com 
 
 Some emails has are being suspended.
 
 GET MAILS HERE 
 
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Re: 5/12/16

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primarily yes, but since IPs aren’t always static and reverse DNS is easily 
spoofable there are some that do use exact message makeup from a blacklist and 
others that do phrase matching, not saying all work the same however. That 
being said if I was going to phish for a password I might send out a couple 
thousand properly spelled ones and then keep shifting typos and cycling through 
my available IPs through different proxy servers.

> On May 12, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> Well, it wasn’t my spam filter but the original poster.  I thought spam 
> filtration was based more on black / whitelisted IP addresses and then the 
> proper construction of the message with valid from servers and reverse DNS 
> and all that jazz.  I didn’t think they actually got in to the message 
> payload much.  Besides, if someone wants to convince me it’s my bank then 
> they better find a better way to get through the spam filter because B of A 
> and insert your bank name here, are very familiar with spell check and 
> correct English.
>> On May 12, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> frequently, poor grammar isn’t just a result of not knowing english 
>> correctly but also an attempt to get past your spam filter, which, clearly 
>> worked.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You’ think that these people would know to correct their english.  Apple 
>>> does not write it’s emails like Baboo from Seinfeld!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2016, at 10:07 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would say so based on the piss poor grammar. It could be a phishing 
>>>> attempt.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/12/2016 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>>>> What does this mean? Is this a spam message?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *From: *iCloud Team mailto:jsmith...@aol.com>>
>>>>>> *Subject: **5/12/16*
>>>>>> *Date: *May 12, 2016 at 8:59:36 AM CDT
>>>>>> *To: *bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some emails has are being suspended.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> GET MAILS HERE <http://piedrapiramide.cl/swf/index.html>
>>>>>> 
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Re: Malware

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So the good news is that you’re being very prudent. More good news is that you 
do not have malware. These websites are made to target gullible people. They’re 
designed to look and feel exactly like some kind of anti-virus but what most 
people aren’t aware of is that it’s not possible for a website to remotely scan 
your machine in such a manner to even find viruses for you. This isn’t malware 
it’s just targeted advertising. As long as you have at least 1 working 
anti-virus on your mac don’t worry, and if safari is what gives you a message 
simply ignore it. You don’t care what safari says, you only care what your 
anti-virus says.
> On Feb 9, 2016, at 21:13, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I got a false alert on Safari about virus and danger. Did not click on the 
> download antivirus software button or some kind of exscecute a virus scan. I 
> do have ClamXav virus software locally on the mac, but could not determine if 
> it was this, so i did a scan from the mac and 0 virus was the result. It 
> could be malware or spyware so i found Malware Bytes Anti-Malware for mac. It 
> is accessible with voice over. Found nothing, but are accessible. Don’t know 
> the price later on, since this is a free download and i could not find a 
> version that i need to pay for.  https://www.malwarebytes.org/antimalware/mac/
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Tyler Thompson]

So I feel it’s about time to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a Certified Ethical 
Hacker and I’ve got qualifications and certifications in regards to 
cryptography, steganography and cyber security. I don’t bring this up to brag 
but instead to outline that I’m speaking from a place of experience. In this 
letter  to us, the customers Tim Cook 
does a decent job of outlining the issue.

I can say with 100% certainty that by creating access to a single phone apple 
will significantly reduce it’s ability to protect your data, and, what’s worse 
they’ll give that access to the FBI. There’s no such thing as a backdoor into 1 
device. One of the most potent security measures, and one that Apple has 
implemented is to ensure that nobody again nobody has access to secured data, 
including Apple themselves. When I’m contracted out to build secure apps or 
websites I do the same thing, for example, once a password has been created for 
a user I do not, and cannot ever gain access to that users account.

In order to build a “backdoor” you have to build it into the operating system. 
This means every iOS operating system would become vulnerable to both malicious 
hackers and our government. But let me give it to you in an analogy: Imagine 
that the iPhone is your home. Now imagine that your home is in a bad 
neighborhood and is a high-profile home. So the FBI comes along and asks you to 
please smash out one of your own windows in broad daylight. When you say it 
lowers the security of your home the answer is “Well it’s ok, thieves in the 
area don’t know which window you smashed out.”

I’ve been a very avid Apple fan for years now, I love their accessibility, I 
love their products but knowing about cyber security I can guarantee you right 
now that if they build this backdoor I will immediately stop using apple 
products.

You want one even scarier? Think about a backdoor to an operating system that 
houses your credit card info for Apple Pay. That’s not enough for you? What 
about your keychain? You know, the one where you store all your passwords for 
things like your bank account. 

We can say “Surely you can just do it this once” all we want to but I’m here to 
tell you there’s no such thing. Once you’ve lowered your security it’s done and 
the product will never be as secure again.

Tyler K. Thompson

-Software Engineer

> On Feb 20, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> ok,
> the way I see it, apple can come up with a method to access the device. Hell, 
> if the fingerprints of the terrorists are still available, and that were the 
> only method of encryption, then the FBI already has its problem solved. If, 
> however, there was a secondary method (like a passcode) used, then it becomes 
> a lot harder to get into the device. Note: I did not say impossible.
> 
> Now, apple can develop a method by which they can access the phone. they 
> aren't required to publish it nor to provide it to law enforcement. all they 
> need to do is provide a technician who knows the method (and has the 
> program). since that program will not be turned over to the FBI, there is 
> essentially no problem. Apple would retain custody of the program and the 
> method and law enforcement would have to follow the law (file a warrant, 
> etc.). At this point, there would be no back door to exploit To further 
> secure it, I would props that the program be placed on a specialized (and 
> isolated) device. THis device cannot be plugged into any network and would 
> also require the use of a password (only known to apple) to work.
> 
> does this sound like a decent proposal?
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
>> I agree,
>> 
>> It's not just terrorist that this will effect it's all IOS device users.
>> 
>> A back door access to one device is a back door to all devices of that type.
>> 
>> Iargree
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Cham
>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 9:21 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>> 
>> That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't 
>> make apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?
>> 
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to 
>>> use the pin code to open it for the first time
>>> 
>>> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable 
>>

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Tyler Thompson]

It’s a pipe dream. Without going into crazy technical detail you’re talking 
about either bypassing or giving up their cryptographic private key, the moment 
you do that it’s all over, for 1 device or for a million devices. Unlike, say, 
a firewall where you can open a port to 1 specific device based on MAC address, 
let it get it’s information then close it off again. This is a different 
concept.


> On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> hmmm. good points. 
> now, I am not a crypto specialist. I am a basic IT/security tech. my thing is 
> firewalls, intrusion detection and disinfection
> 
> There has to be a way where apple doesn't have to give up security and still 
> allow the FBI access to that one device (without compromising all others). Is 
> this possible or am I smoking a real pipe dream here?
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Feb 20, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote:
> 
>> So I feel it’s about time to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a Certified 
>> Ethical Hacker and I’ve got qualifications and certifications in regards to 
>> cryptography, steganography and cyber security. I don’t bring this up to 
>> brag but instead to outline that I’m speaking from a place of experience. In 
>> this letter to us, the customers Tim Cook does a decent job of outlining the 
>> issue.
>> 
>> I can say with 100% certainty that by creating access to a single phone 
>> apple will significantly reduce it’s ability to protect your data, and, 
>> what’s worse they’ll give that access to the FBI. There’s no such thing as a 
>> backdoor into 1 device. One of the most potent security measures, and one 
>> that Apple has implemented is to ensure that nobody again nobody has access 
>> to secured data, including Apple themselves. When I’m contracted out to 
>> build secure apps or websites I do the same thing, for example, once a 
>> password has been created for a user I do not, and cannot ever gain access 
>> to that users account.
>> 
>> In order to build a “backdoor” you have to build it into the operating 
>> system. This means every iOS operating system would become vulnerable to 
>> both malicious hackers and our government. But let me give it to you in an 
>> analogy: Imagine that the iPhone is your home. Now imagine that your home is 
>> in a bad neighborhood and is a high-profile home. So the FBI comes along and 
>> asks you to please smash out one of your own windows in broad daylight. When 
>> you say it lowers the security of your home the answer is “Well it’s ok, 
>> thieves in the area don’t know which window you smashed out.”
>> 
>> I’ve been a very avid Apple fan for years now, I love their accessibility, I 
>> love their products but knowing about cyber security I can guarantee you 
>> right now that if they build this backdoor I will immediately stop using 
>> apple products.
>> 
>> You want one even scarier? Think about a backdoor to an operating system 
>> that houses your credit card info for Apple Pay. That’s not enough for you? 
>> What about your keychain? You know, the one where you store all your 
>> passwords for things like your bank account. 
>> 
>> We can say “Surely you can just do it this once” all we want to but I’m here 
>> to tell you there’s no such thing. Once you’ve lowered your security it’s 
>> done and the product will never be as secure again.
>> 
>> Tyler K. Thompson
>> 
>>  -Software Engineer
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ok,
>>> the way I see it, apple can come up with a method to access the device. 
>>> Hell, if the fingerprints of the terrorists are still available, and that 
>>> were the only method of encryption, then the FBI already has its problem 
>>> solved. If, however, there was a secondary method (like a passcode) used, 
>>> then it becomes a lot harder to get into the device. Note: I did not say 
>>> impossible.
>>> 
>>> Now, apple can develop a method by which they can access the phone. they 
>>> aren't required to publish it nor to provide it to law enforcement. all 
>>> they need to do is provide a technician who knows the method (and has the 
>>> program). since that program will not be turned over to the FBI, there is 
>>> essentially no problem. Apple would retain custody of the program and the 
>>> method and law enforcement would have to follow the law (file a warrant, 
>>> etc.). At this point, there would be no back door to exploit To further 
>>> secure it, I would props that the program be placed on a specialized (and 
>>&g

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Tyler Thompson]

How exactly is this on topic? I was under the impression the discussion was 
about whether apple should cave to the FBI’s demands. For the sake of a 
reasonable, clean debate on the subject I’d like to ask we avoid religious and 
political beliefs. The question is a simple one, what do we think of the 
concept, is it a dangerous security breach or is it fine to let the FBI force 
apple to create this backdoor.

Donald Trump, god and immigration are completely irrelevant.


> On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> E.T. is correct.
> 
> The fore fathers used spiritual principles in the idea of the constitution as 
> well as references to a general creator and inalienable rights but the 
> Christian God and the bible are not mentioned.  In fact, a good percentage of 
> the founders were Masons who were a very religious tolerant bunch (still are) 
> and who wrote the constitution from more of a Deist point of view than 
> Christian.  (hence the all seeing eye and many other symbols in our 
> historical documents and places)
> 
> Also, contrary to common belief, church and state separation aren’t 
> specifically mentioned other than the Government shall not limit religion but 
> there is no real barrier to incorporating religious thought in to governance. 
>  Church and state separation were discussed much more in Thomas Jefferson’s 
> own writings and sometimes that’s what’s quoted incorrectly in place of the 
> constitution.
> 
> That being said, E.T’s comments are valid because the bible isn’t 
> specifically sited and really government should not support or favor any 
> religion.  Christians bastardize the document as much as non believers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:16 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi E.T.
>> Apparently you haven't read the constitution and the bill of rights!
>> If your open to learning about the USA history here you go;
>> http://billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/constitution/
>> Also heres what being politically correct gets you!
>> 
>> http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/06/judge-jeanine-neighbors-of-san-bernardino-attackers-afraid-of-being-called-islamaphobic-part-of-islamic-terrorist-plan/
>> Barack Hussein Obama is ultimately approving the home land security and  FBI 
>> Iphone "power grab",
>> And all the other privacy's we have and them being usurped!
>> Power corrupts! But absolute power corrupts absolutely!
>> 
>> PS I know!
>> You believe ancient  aliens brought us the iphone! LOL
>> YMWV
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:16 PM, E.T. wrote:
>> 
>>> All I will say to this is that this country was not founded on biblical 
>>> principles.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 2/22/2016 9:09 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 I agree 1776 was a great year!
 This discussion wouldn't be taking place if we  had "locked down" the
 borders and through out all the illegals in the USA!
 Thats correct I & the majority of the heartland of the USA are not
 politically correct and we dig it!
 I'd rather be "biblically Correct" than politically correct any day!
 Thank GOD for the second amendment! :)
 HTH
 
 Chuck
 
 CHUCK REICHEL
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
 www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
 954-742-0019
 Isaiah 26 : 3
 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee:
 because he trusteth in thee.
 
 In GOD I Trust
 
 On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Just one thing that to me puts a whole in your argument all though
> really well made by the way.
> 
> The FBI actually reset the phone while in it’s possession.  So it’s
> come out in the US news, KGO radio specifically as part of their local
> coverage is reporting that the FBI hard reset the phone while in their
> possession and Apple is now being asked to reconstruct that data as
> well ad decrypt anything etc.
> 
> Personally this just indicates what I’ve always believed, FBI stands
> for Fat, Bald and Ignorant.  These are bulls in a china closet trying
> to scare us in to submission.
> 
> You make strong points and I whole heartedly support your cries for
> strong, real cryptography under nobody’s control but I also have to
> cry out against a bumbling government that doesn’t respect the for the
> people and by the people phrase and rather treats us as subjects.
> That might work for you queen lovers across the pond:) but not so
> much here.  Something about a small skirmish back in 1776 or so.
> 
> I just get very nervous when the government asks for anything,
> especially to circumvent security whether it’s good security or not.
> 
> As always thoug

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Tyler Thompson]

Call me overly optimistic but considering that apple is one of the richest 
companies in the world with a billion dollars in just cash right now I don’t 
really believe their stance is on the money. I honestly believe it’s about 
security. Someone had posited earlier that agreeing to create this backdoor 
will somehow enhance their security. I respectfully disagree.

Devices that are not up to date still have the old key hard-coded into memory. 
This means that when a new version of iOS comes out (possibly using a new key 
since the FBI ruined the old one) all devices that are not up to date will 
immediately become not just vulnerable, but extremely vulnerable. While iOS has 
an astonishing adoption rate that’s still around 25% of iOS users who will have 
vulnerable devices.

My sincere hope is, as someone else had mentioned that Apple battle it to the 
supreme court, and if they do lose I hope they pack up their HQ and move it 
outside of the US. You’ve all probably seen the quote but it’s worth repeating: 
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

> On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> This FBI case is a enormous value for apple in $ if they win. They can swim 
> in dollars. 
> 
> Take care
> 
> 23. feb. 2016 kl. 08:22 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Sorrylist but I think I missed something here,
> 
> So are you saying that the USA's FBI deleted the iCloud backup for the 
> terrorists?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 9:06 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
> 
> Yep, it later emerged that the FBI, through malice or incompetence, reset the 
> account password and thus prevented those all-important (but incomplete) 
> iCloud backups from occurring.  (Notice that iCloud backups are another way 
> in, which is something many customers aren’t aware of.)
> 
> And I don’t blame you one bit for distrusting the FBI.  This is the 
> government that gave birth to “National Security Letters”.  The fact that 
> these clowns are pushing for even more power, even though it would be limited 
> to after-the-fact exams, probably says that they aren’t finished grasping, 
> and not by a long shot.  Certainly off-worlders can forget any legal 
> protections that you might get as a result of all this, particularly while 
> passing through your delightful TSL checkpoints.  I can just imagine it, 
> being asked for my phone so they can take an image for later cryptanalysis, 
> because I “Look foreign".  Ugh.
> 
> But, alas, we’re still in the precarious situation that even if the court’s 
> decision is somehow overturned, we now know something rather uncomfortable 
> about iOS security.  Apple just painted a great big “Hack me!” sign on its 
> gigantic half-eaten Apple logo.  I side with Apple insofar as I believe we’re 
> entitled to security, but there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of being 
> able to trust the technology while it’s in such close proximity to the powers 
> that be(TM), much less all the h4x3rz who will be trying their damned best to 
> obtain the golden keys and make life miserable for the 99%.  And don’t forget 
> that some of these actors will be well-funded, and under the control of 
> other, less well-adjusted governments.  Ironic, given the message Apple is 
> sending about the importance of security.  If they know they’re a weak link, 
> they’re not exactly eager to tell the world. :)
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Tyler Thompson]

Apple already engineered products so that this cannot happen. That’s kind of 
the point. They already use a strong encryption, so strong in fact, that our 
government can’t break into them. Passwords are already hashed, Data is already 
encrypted as much as is legal (yes, there are illegal encryptions because 
they’re too strong). The U.S. government is asking them to redesign iOS so that 
these security measures go away.


> On Feb 23, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The FBI asked the owner of the phone to change the iCloud account password, 
> with the result that the iPhone didn’t back up to iCloud, which would have 
> provided a way for the FBI to access recent (if incomplete) data.  Hence 
> there followed the question of whether or not the FBI is complicit in 
> furthering this precedent by engineering the case to require it, and 
> therefore whether or not Apple should help them in their objective.  
> Something about not ascribing to malice that which can be adequately 
> explained by stupidity, but you never know with the Feds. :)
> 
> Apple now says this is about civil liberties.  I think this is a rather 
> strange comment coming from the CEO of Apple—or at least it would certainly 
> have been if the CEO were still Steve Jobs.  I'm fairly sure that if liberty 
> is your objective, Apple isn’t the right platform provider.  Still, I accept 
> Tim Cook’s personally principled stand in this affair, and genuinely hope 
> good comes of it in the long run.  you can’t have too much liberty, and it’s 
> tempting to think that he’s being entirely sincere and is simply unaware of 
> the caveats of what he is suggesting as a solution to government overreach.  
> Unfortunately, that doesn’t change my belief  that half-measures are 
> inadequate.  Much as I’d love Apple to keep the US government from such 
> extreme forms of intrusion, or for Apple to leave the US for somewhere more 
> privacy-respecting, I doubt very much that this will happen, because 
> ultimately business is more important than principles.  It doesn’t solve all 
> the other problems of a central point of failure, either, and it’s not clear 
> to me that the world would be any less free with better cryptography in it, 
> except perhaps for control and convenience freaks like Apple.  So Apple is 
> still left with the problem of how to engineer their products so that this 
> simply cannot ever happen again.
> 
> That is my opinion, anyway.  You get to choose yours. :)
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Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling

[Tyler Thompson]

Hey Mark,

I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am not able to get wi-fi 
calling or create a hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I think you’re 
sort of out of luck. My advice would definitely be don’t give up the deal. They 
may prohibit a couple of cool features but at the end of the day it’s really 
nice not having to worry about data usage.
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to make
> certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my unlimited
> data plan.  For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to do anything that
> will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited data; I don't want them
> to trick me as they have done so many others, in the past, by offering other
> options, which coincidentally, (wink), cause the revocation of the unlimited
> data plan.  
> 
> A little paranoia on my part?  You bet!!
> 
> All replies welcomed.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark 
> PS
> Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received inaccurate
> information from their call centers, especially when it comes to the
> unlimited data plan, in the past.
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Re: please help, my hard drive is being inundated

[Tyler Thompson]

Have you checked your activity monitor? It can show you what process is eating 
up all that space. Once you’re aware of which process is causing the issue we 
can start narrowing down a good solution.


> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:19 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm having a very strange problem.  At first I believed it might be my 
> 4-year-old SSD showing it's age, but I don't know...
> 
> Last week my mac reported that I was low on disk space.  So, I moved 20 gb of 
> files off into storage drives.  An hour after moving all the files, my mac 
> again reported low on disk space, and when I looked, sure enough my disk 
> appeard to be full.
> 
> Today I moved 11 gb more files off to storage and was breathing easy when my 
> mac once again reported my disk to be full and sure enough it seems to be.
> 
> I'm not putting any more files onto my disk though since the first time this 
> happened.
> 
> I've run apples disk checking utilities and they tell me my disk is OK for 
> what that's worth.  My disk's size appears normal.  I ran a malware bytes 
> scan and it didn't find anything suspicious.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions, as if this keeps up, I won't have enough disk 
> space left to run an operating system.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
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iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello,

For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the mac app 
store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be putting it on 
but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a fully functional client 
(even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody posted on whether it gets accepted or 
rejected

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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

it’ll be $4.99
On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> How much will it cost?
> Sent from my braille plus 18
> 
> Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
>> client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the mac 
>> app store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be putting 
>> it on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a fully functional 
>> client (even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody posted on whether it gets 
>> accepted or rejected
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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

It’s a MUD client, (multi user dungeon). To connect to old telnet style games 
(text based)


On Nov 27, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Jessica D  wrote:

> what will it be used for?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> it’ll be $4.99
>>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How much will it cost?
>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>> 
>>> Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>>   For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
>>>> client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the 
>>>> mac app store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be 
>>>> putting it on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a fully 
>>>> functional client (even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody posted on 
>>>> whether it gets accepted or rejected
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iMud (the accessible MUD client) has moved to the iPhone!

[Tyler Thompson]

the OSX version of iMud is looking good, I have a little entitlements problem 
to fix with iTunes connect but it’s no big thing. Other than that it looks like 
iMud is almost ready to put on the app store!

That being said the bigger news is that iMud is looking good on iOS so far, 
I’ve got a few accessibility things I need to hammer out before I can 
officially open it up for beta testing but I will be shooting another message 
to the group in the near future asking for iOS beta testers. 

Accessibility on the iPhone is a lot different so to say pulling this off in a 
100% accessible way will be hard is an understatement. It shouldn’t be 
incredibly difficult, however, to at least get a useable version up and running 
in the near future. The biggest goal is to minimize on typing (that’s for both 
blind and sighted users). I have a few ideas on how to do that but it’ll be an 
experience for sure. 

I encourage any ideas on a clever design for making a MUD client on the iPhone 
something new and spectacular :)



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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

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I expect iMud will be released on the app store before the end of January, I 
can’t give a lot of information past that, iTunes connect is down until the 
28th of December I’ll keep trying after that. I’ve cleared up all issues that 
were found with the app so It should get through the review process.


On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Any news on this?
> 
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02:56 PM UTC-6, Tyler wrote:
> it’ll be $4.99 
> On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater  wrote: 
> 
> > How much will it cost? 
> > Sent from my braille plus 18 
> > 
> > Tyler Thompson  wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hello, 
> >> 
> >> For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
> >> client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the 
> >> mac app store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be 
> >> putting it on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a fully 
> >> functional client (even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody posted on 
> >> whether it gets accepted or rejected 
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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

The mac version is the one to expect before the end of january. The iOS version 
is quite a ways off. Both will cost $5
On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Well, I meant, about the mac version. I have around $40 or so, and would love 
> to start playing alter aeon again, with soundpacks and whatever else is in 
> iMud.
> Sent from my braille plus 18
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>> I expect iMud will be released on the app store before the end of January, I 
>> can’t give a lot of information past that, iTunes connect is down until the 
>> 28th of December I’ll keep trying after that. I’ve cleared up all issues 
>> that were found with the app so It should get through the review process.
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Any news on this?
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02:56 PM UTC-6, Tyler wrote:
>>> it’ll be $4.99 
>>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater  wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> How much will it cost? 
>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18 
>>>> 
>>>> Tyler Thompson  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello, 
>>>>> 
>>>>>For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
>>>>> client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the 
>>>>> mac app store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be 
>>>>> putting it on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a fully 
>>>>> functional client (even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody posted on 
>>>>> whether it gets accepted or rejected 
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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

Rest assured I have MSP (Mud Sound Protocol) support and I have worked with 
developers from many popular MUDs to make the client as great as possible. The 
$5 is a one time payment, there are no in-app purchases or special costs for 
upgrades to the client. 

Don’t overestimate the client, it won’t be as good as some of the windows 
clients that have been around for years on it’s release date. It is however 
already the only truly accessible client I’ve seen for OSX and I will continue 
to work to make it better as time goes on.

On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Ah, thanks. I shall expect much for that cost, like detailed, high quality 
> sound packs for popular muds such as alter aeon, mirioni, and so on. I really 
> can't wait to try them! Also, for the iOs version, have the sound packs 
> optional, so that the user could download the soundpacks required.
> Sent from my braille plus 18
> 
> Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> The mac version is the one to expect before the end of january. The iOS 
>> version is quite a ways off. Both will cost $5
>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I meant, about the mac version. I have around $40 or so, and would 
>>> love to start playing alter aeon again, with soundpacks and whatever else 
>>> is in iMud.
>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>> 
>>> Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I expect iMud will be released on the app store before the end of January, 
>>>> I can’t give a lot of information past that, iTunes connect is down until 
>>>> the 28th of December I’ll keep trying after that. I’ve cleared up all 
>>>> issues that were found with the app so It should get through the review 
>>>> process.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Any news on this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02:56 PM UTC-6, Tyler wrote:
>>>>> it’ll be $4.99 
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater  wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> How much will it cost? 
>>>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tyler Thompson  wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
>>>>>>> client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the 
>>>>>>> mac app store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be 
>>>>>>> putting it on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a fully 
>>>>>>> functional client (even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody posted on 
>>>>>>> whether it gets accepted or rejected 
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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

iMud is a MUD client allowing blind and sighted users to connect to various 
text based games.


On Dec 23, 2013, at 1:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> What is I Mud?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2013, at 04:58 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, thanks. I shall expect much for that cost, like detailed, high quality 
>> sound packs for popular muds such as alter aeon, mirioni, and so on. I 
>> really can't wait to try them! Also, for the iOs version, have the sound 
>> packs optional, so that the user could download the soundpacks required.
>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>> 
>> Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>>> The mac version is the one to expect before the end of january. The iOS 
>>> version is quite a ways off. Both will cost $5
>>>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I meant, about the mac version. I have around $40 or so, and would 
>>>> love to start playing alter aeon again, with soundpacks and whatever else 
>>>> is in iMud.
>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>>> 
>>>> Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I expect iMud will be released on the app store before the end of 
>>>>> January, I can’t give a lot of information past that, iTunes connect is 
>>>>> down until the 28th of December I’ll keep trying after that. I’ve cleared 
>>>>> up all issues that were found with the app so It should get through the 
>>>>> review process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any news on this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02:56 PM UTC-6, Tyler wrote:
>>>>>> it’ll be $4.99 
>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater  wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How much will it cost? 
>>>>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tyler Thompson  wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD 
>>>>>>>> client) and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to 
>>>>>>>> the mac app store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going 
>>>>>>>> to be putting it on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s  a 
>>>>>>>> fully functional client (even in mavericks). I’ll keep everybody 
>>>>>>>> posted on whether it gets accepted or rejected 
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Re: iMud has been submitted to the mac app store

[Tyler Thompson]

I’ve considered it but post-release it’s much easier to have it automatically 
update through the app store than trying to authenticate versions with a server 
and prompt the user to update constantly. Then having to deal with feedback 
from different versions etc… It’s still on the “maybe” list but the issue they 
found with the client is minor and already fixed, so we will see.
On Dec 23, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> You may want to consider offering the app directly if you don't want to deal 
> with Apple's restrictions and taking too long to approve it.
> Original message:
>> I expect iMud will be released on the app store before the end of January, I 
>> can’t give a lot of information past that, iTunes connect is down until the 
>> 28th of December I’ll keep trying after that. I’ve cleared up all issues 
>> that were found with the app so It should get through the review process.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Devin Prater > <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Any news on this?
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02:56 PM UTC-6, Tyler wrote:
> 
>> it’ll be $4.99
>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Devin Prater > 
>> wrote:
> 
>>> How much will it cost?
>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
> 
>>> Tyler Thompson > wrote:
> 
>>>> Hello,
> 
>>>> For those of you who helped me beta test iMud (the accessible MUD client) 
>>>> and for those who are interested iMud has been submitted to the mac app 
>>>> store! I haven’t heard yet whether they’re actually going to be putting it 
>>>> on but the bulk of the work has been done and it’s a fully functional 
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

[Tyler Thompson]

I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, past 
that it’s unlikely.


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> Hi all:
> 
> 
> Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it’s far from viruses?
> 
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IMud for IOS is ready for beta testing

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello, for those if you interested I've got iMud working on the iPhone. (IPad 
version coming very soon). 

If you're interested in beta testing the accessible mud client please send me 
your device ID in a private email and we will get you set up

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Re: IMud for IOS is ready for beta testing

[Tyler Thompson]

It’s not the same app, I’ve seen it but as I managed to copyright the name I’m 
assuming the developer of that app hasn’t. It’s possible that I can change the 
name for the iOS version. It’s something to worry about after I’ve got the app 
working a little better.

Thanks for pointing it out however, my client is not on the app store yet so 
don’t download that one thinking it’s accessible.

On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Noel Romey  wrote:

> Tyler
> 
> There is already an app on the App Store called imud. Suppose you might need 
> to rename it? Or is it the same app
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, for those if you interested I've got iMud working on the iPhone. 
>> (IPad version coming very soon). 
>> 
>> If you're interested in beta testing the accessible mud client please send 
>> me your device ID in a private email and we will get you set up
>> 
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Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,

I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally wrote 
this function I thought I'd share with everybody:

-(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
{
NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, @"High", 
NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
}

This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to assure 
that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having to figure it 
out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged notification to refresh 
the braille display (Although in some very bizarre cases this causes VoiceOver 
to speak twice (once with the announcement, once for the layout change). In 
other cases the announcement interrupts the layout change notification or visa 
versa, I have yet to figure that bit out. 

However I felt like this code snippet could do some people good, so there it is.

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Re: Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

the value: @"High" is the priority, as in low, medium, high. The second 
parameter must be the UI element that currently has keyboard focus, this can be 
a NSView object or subclass it can also be a custom object. If you pass the 
object as nil you'll get no result. I don't know if it'll result in a crash or 
not.


On Jul 20, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> This looks like what I've been searching for for a while now, thanks for 
> sharing! What is the second parameter, though? Can it be nil,or does it need 
> to be some NSView object or subclass? Also, in your demo, why provide the 
> string "Hi" instead of using the string that was passed n? I just want to be 
> sure I understand the process. Thanks again.
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,
>> 
>>  I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
>> submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally 
>> wrote this function I thought I'd share with everybody:
>> 
>> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
>> {
>> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
>> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
>> @"High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
>> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
>> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
>> }
>> 
>> This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
>> function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to 
>> assure that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having to 
>> figure it out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged notification 
>> to refresh the braille display (Although in some very bizarre cases this 
>> causes VoiceOver to speak twice (once with the announcement, once for the 
>> layout change). In other cases the announcement interrupts the layout change 
>> notification or visa versa, I have yet to figure that bit out. 
>> 
>> However I felt like this code snippet could do some people good, so there it 
>> is.
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Re: Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

Yes and no, I've found several snippets but I haven't had a lot of luck testing 
them. So far as I can tell what we're looking for here is the windows first 
responder which by claim should be returned by either subleasing the window or 
just calling [window firstresponder]. Unfortunately that seems to return the 
highest responder (i.e.: the window itself or in one test just now a subclassed 
view) but not the lowest element (which is what we care about) i.e. an 
NSTextField. I'll do some more tinkering and see if I can't get back to you on 
that.


On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Oh, thanks. That's what I get for not reviewing the spelling. :) So, is there 
> a quick way of getting the focused UI element, or does the app need to track 
> it manually?
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> the value: @"High" is the priority, as in low, medium, high. The second 
>> parameter must be the UI element that currently has keyboard focus, this can 
>> be a NSView object or subclass it can also be a custom object. If you pass 
>> the object as nil you'll get no result. I don't know if it'll result in a 
>> crash or not.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> This looks like what I've been searching for for a while now, thanks for 
>>> sharing! What is the second parameter, though? Can it be nil,or does it 
>>> need to be some NSView object or subclass? Also, in your demo, why provide 
>>> the string "Hi" instead of using the string that was passed n? I just want 
>>> to be sure I understand the process. Thanks again.
>>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,
>>>> 
>>>>I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
>>>> submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally 
>>>> wrote this function I thought I'd share with everybody:
>>>> 
>>>> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak 
>>>> fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
>>>> {
>>>> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
>>>> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
>>>> @"High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
>>>> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
>>>> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
>>>> function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to 
>>>> assure that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having to 
>>>> figure it out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged 
>>>> notification to refresh the braille display (Although in some very bizarre 
>>>> cases this causes VoiceOver to speak twice (once with the announcement, 
>>>> once for the layout change). In other cases the announcement interrupts 
>>>> the layout change notification or visa versa, I have yet to figure that 
>>>> bit out. 
>>>> 
>>>> However I felt like this code snippet could do some people good, so there 
>>>> it is.
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Re: Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

Alright, solution time; this requires you to pass an NSWindow for mainWindow (I 
just linked it using an IBOutlet)

-(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak
{
NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, @"High", 
NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo([mainWindow 
firstResponder].accessibilityFocusedUIElement, 
NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
}


On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Oh, thanks. That's what I get for not reviewing the spelling. :) So, is there 
> a quick way of getting the focused UI element, or does the app need to track 
> it manually?
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> the value: @"High" is the priority, as in low, medium, high. The second 
>> parameter must be the UI element that currently has keyboard focus, this can 
>> be a NSView object or subclass it can also be a custom object. If you pass 
>> the object as nil you'll get no result. I don't know if it'll result in a 
>> crash or not.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> This looks like what I've been searching for for a while now, thanks for 
>>> sharing! What is the second parameter, though? Can it be nil,or does it 
>>> need to be some NSView object or subclass? Also, in your demo, why provide 
>>> the string "Hi" instead of using the string that was passed n? I just want 
>>> to be sure I understand the process. Thanks again.
>>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,
>>>> 
>>>>I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
>>>> submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally 
>>>> wrote this function I thought I'd share with everybody:
>>>> 
>>>> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak 
>>>> fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
>>>> {
>>>> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
>>>> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
>>>> @"High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
>>>> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
>>>> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
>>>> function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to 
>>>> assure that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having to 
>>>> figure it out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged 
>>>> notification to refresh the braille display (Although in some very bizarre 
>>>> cases this causes VoiceOver to speak twice (once with the announcement, 
>>>> once for the layout change). In other cases the announcement interrupts 
>>>> the layout change notification or visa versa, I have yet to figure that 
>>>> bit out. 
>>>> 
>>>> However I felt like this code snippet could do some people good, so there 
>>>> it is.
>>>> 
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Re: Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

Ahh and I forgot to mention that if you want to just test this, use a timer on 
a 10 second delay because an announcement will not speak over the top of 
VoiceOver announcing that your build succeeded and application opened.

On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:

> Alright, solution time; this requires you to pass an NSWindow for mainWindow 
> (I just linked it using an IBOutlet)
> 
> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak
> {
> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
> @"High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo([mainWindow 
> firstResponder].accessibilityFocusedUIElement, 
> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
> }
> 
> 
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Oh, thanks. That's what I get for not reviewing the spelling. :) So, is 
>> there a quick way of getting the focused UI element, or does the app need to 
>> track it manually?
>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> the value: @"High" is the priority, as in low, medium, high. The second 
>>> parameter must be the UI element that currently has keyboard focus, this 
>>> can be a NSView object or subclass it can also be a custom object. If you 
>>> pass the object as nil you'll get no result. I don't know if it'll result 
>>> in a crash or not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This looks like what I've been searching for for a while now, thanks for 
>>>> sharing! What is the second parameter, though? Can it be nil,or does it 
>>>> need to be some NSView object or subclass? Also, in your demo, why provide 
>>>> the string "Hi" instead of using the string that was passed n? I just want 
>>>> to be sure I understand the process. Thanks again.
>>>> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
>>>>> submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally 
>>>>> wrote this function I thought I'd share with everybody:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak 
>>>>> fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
>>>>> {
>>>>> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
>>>>> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
>>>>> @"High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
>>>>> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
>>>>> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
>>>>> function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to 
>>>>> assure that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having 
>>>>> to figure it out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged 
>>>>> notification to refresh the braille display (Although in some very 
>>>>> bizarre cases this causes VoiceOver to speak twice (once with the 
>>>>> announcement, once for the layout change). In other cases the 
>>>>> announcement interrupts the layout change notification or visa versa, I 
>>>>> have yet to figure that bit out. 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> it is.
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Re: Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

I'd like to make a point of clarification here, this code snippet has it's 
place only for those who are writing apps for OSX. Applescript, while useful 
couldn't be used to accomplish the same thing as efficiently. This is of no use 
or interest to anybody who doesn't wish to code apps. 


On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:22 PM, gkearney  wrote:

> OK let me make this a bit clearer.
> 
> IN the MacOS there is a system wide scripting language called AppleScript. 
> You can use it to automate actions in various programs or as in this case 
> create scripts to have VoiceOVer perform actions.
> 
> tell application "VoiceOver"
>   output "Hello World"
> end tell
> 
> In this example the script tells VoiceOver to say the string "Hello World" as 
> if it had encountered it on the screen.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, 20 July 2014 14:08:41 UTC-7, Tyler wrote:
> Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,
> 
>   I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
> submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally wrote 
> this function I thought I'd share with everybody:
> 
> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
> {
> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
> @"High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
> }
> 
> This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
> function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to assure 
> that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having to figure it 
> out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged notification to refresh 
> the braille display (Although in some very bizarre cases this causes 
> VoiceOver to speak twice (once with the announcement, once for the layout 
> change). In other cases the announcement interrupts the layout change 
> notification or visa versa, I have yet to figure that bit out. 
> 
> However I felt like this code snippet could do some people good, so there it 
> is.
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Re: Screen Casts in Quicktime?

[Tyler Thompson]

Just do a full-screen recording by pressing Control N. That'll be the simplest 
way to do it without seeing the screen. It's actually pretty good for screen 
capturing. 
On Jul 24, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all
> I reported a bug in an Apple beta the other day, and an engineer has asked me 
> to record a screen cast of what I'm doing when the bug happens. I have never 
> done this before, but the note the engineer sent said to use Quicktime. Since 
> the extent of what I can see on the screen is if it's on or off, what tips do 
> people have for this? I haven't tried it yet, and plan to do so later today, 
> but if anyone has suggestions, I'd love to hear them. Thanks!
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Re: ftp client

[Tyler Thompson]

If you don't want to pay you could use the mac terminal, it's free and there's 
ftp support built in. Just look up the ftp commands for the mac terminal. It 
supports sftp as well.


On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Jean  wrote:

> Hello:
> What are people using for ftp?  I know there was some discussion about a 
> program called transfer but I am unable to find it in the app store.
> All help appreciated,
> Jean
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Tyler Thompson]

Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be 
integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything 
completely accessible before that can happen


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> It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mauricio Almeida  
> wrote:
> 
>> hello,
>> 
>> I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
>> for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
>> mac.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Mauricio
>> 
>> On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens  wrote:
>>> I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be interested
>>> in testing your client as well.
>>> 
>>> -Greg
>>> 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Tyler Thompson]

MSP MSDP MCCP GMCP and ZMP will all be supported (eventually) … so short answer 
is yes sound packs will be available.

The client will also be available on IOS in the future (it'll be accessible 
there as well). 

As of this moment my client is a little over 10,000 lines of code. creating all 
the MUD protocol support will be a huge task so i can't tell you exactly when 
it'll all happen, just that it will


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> That will be amazing! Will the sound packs be available too?
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be 
>> integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything 
>> completely accessible before that can happen
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mauricio Almeida  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
>>>> for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
>>>> mac.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Mauricio
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens  wrote:
>>>>> I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be 
>>>>> interested
>>>>> in testing your client as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Greg
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> tktpianostud...@gmail.com
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Re: How to make sure you delete a whole app from the mac?

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In your average app all the files are contained in the app package, thus 
putting the app in the trash removes all the corresponding files. A good 
developer will include an uninstall feature in their app if they're saving a 
ton of extra information outside of the app itself. Generally speaking if you 
got your app from the app store moving it to the trash should be fine. 

There are a couple of commonly used hidden folders where developers save 
user-info, but most often that's just a simple (and very small) text file. 
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> Hi everyone,
> With windows presumably when you use remove programs from settings you remove 
> everything there is to the program wherever it is on the system. On the mac 
> you can move the .app file to the trash but how do you delete all the other 
> components of an app that are stored in other directories then applications? 
> Is there a uniform way to do this, some kind of tool?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: I just saw Ibooks on the dock in the OSX Maverick demo @ WWDC!!!!

[Tyler Thompson]

confirmed, iBooks is there
On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure I wasn't seeing things, but my stream went down, and they 
> just passed calendar, so I can't confirm.
> 
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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>> That will be simply amazing!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
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>>> Too excited, but I saw Ibooks' icon on the dock.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>>> Louie P. "Pete" Nalda
>>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
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Re: IOS 7 did I hear something right?

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yes, siri has a new improved voice, and you can change it to a male voice 

--apps have always been able to run in the background to some degree but now 
there's smart logic to give priority to apps that you use often, it preserves 
battery life.


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> Hey guys,
> Pretty sure when Siri was being demonstrated at the worldwide developer 
> convention this morning, I heard a much more clearer female voice, alongside 
> with I mail voice that was demonstrated. Therefore, it would be nice if 
> someone would be able to possibly confirm whether or not these features are 
> available in voice over, to utilize these voices. In addition, I noticed that 
> applications have the ability of running in the background now, does this 
> mean and API tie-in for Fleksy?
> 
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Re: a couple questions about IOS 7

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iOS 7 will be released to non-developers in the fall, developers can get it as 
of today.

airdrop is the only feature that won't be available, but iOS 7 is backwards 
compatible.

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> Hello there,
> 
> Firstly, when it is available what will the page show that has IOS 7 on it?  
> Will it show a download link like?
> 
> Secondly, is IOS 7 going to work on the old Ipad 2's?
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

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I would recommend against using a paid service (like go daddy), especially if 
this is your first website. I would suggest starting with google sites (i can’t 
speak to how accessible it is, but i don’t imagine you’d run into any more 
problems than anywhere else). It’s free, it’s easy to use and never goes down. 

The only downside is your URL will be something obnoxious like 
http://sites.google.com/site/username/index.html  — if you build up your site 
and are satisfied with it it’s easy to buy a domain name and tell google to use 
that instead.

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> hello; i have never used go daddy, but i have not enjoyed visiting many sites 
> created using it.  there are a few people on here that offer hosting 
> services, so you may want to post a second question with choosing a hosting 
> company in the subject line. take care, max 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Christina C. wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. this may sound like a dumb question but does it matter which web 
>> hosting company I use as far as accessibility goes? I mean would wordpress 
>> work well with most services with voiceover. So far the web hosting service 
>> I have heard of the most is godaddy.
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
>> 
>>> i don't know if its on the ap store or not.  i installed it through my 
>>> hosting company, but i believe you can download it from wordpresss.org or 
>>> wordpress.com  you might want to wait to hear from some other mac users 
>>> before starting.  good luck, max 
>>> On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Christina C. wrote:
>>> 
 is this an app I download from the mac app store? Thanks :)
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
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> hello; then i suggest you consider using wordpress to build your site.  
> best of luck, max 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Christina C. wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Can anyone suggest a webpage building application for the mac that 
>> somewhat works with voiceover. I understand that building a website is 
>> somewhat of a task requiring vision. However, I will and can have help 
>> with this. I don't need anything super robust. It's more for learning 
>> and educational purposes.
>> 
>> Thanks for any insight,
>> Christina
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Re: Word Count in TextEdit

[Tyler Thompson]

not sure about in text edit but this website might help:

http://www.wordcounter.net/



On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:

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> 
> Is there a way to get a word count for a document in TextEdit?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
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Re: how to force trash removal, again

[Tyler Thompson]

to address the part about seeing hidden files the short answer is it’s very 
difficult and you shouldn’t, having access to hidden files means you could 
delete something important (example most folders have 2 hidden files telling 
the finder specific information about said folder)



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> Hi again,
> apparently the folders in the trash have something to do with my (weirdly 
> acting of late) external drive.
> If i remove the drive i dont see the folders in the trash, i just see them if 
> it is plugged in. But, when enterin gthe drive i dont see a trash fodler. How 
>  can is ee al the hidden content on a disk and force it to be deleted not 
> just send to trash?
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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

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I can’t speak to the voiceOver side of things but i know most blind developers 
i’ve spoken to just simply don’t use the interface builder at all, no reason 
you can’t initialize your object and hook it up to your method with 
NSNotifications or it’s delegate method, a little more specifics on what you’re 
hooking up might be useful :)


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> Hi All,
> 
> I am going through an IOS book right now, and am stuck at a point where i 
> need to create an action in my controller for a button. I'm supposed to 
> control drag a button to my assistant editor so that x code can automatically 
> place the appropriate action method and properties to my project.h, project.m 
> and project.xib files. But there is no control drag in voice over.
> 
> Is this another unsurmountable obstacle or is there actually a method to do 
> this?
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

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To tack on to my previous comment here’s how you can programatically link 
objects with objective c

NSButton *theButton;
[theButton addTarget:self action:@selector(buttonMethod:) 
forControlEvents:someControlEvent];


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> 
> I am going through an IOS book right now, and am stuck at a point where i 
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> place the appropriate action method and properties to my project.h, project.m 
> and project.xib files. But there is no control drag in voice over.
> 
> Is this another unsurmountable obstacle or is there actually a method to do 
> this?
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

[Tyler Thompson]

believe me i understand the frustrations of working with objective C, 
especially if it’s new. As it happens I find that programmatically linking your 
UI elements tends to actually work a little better (as it gives you much more 
control), but for each person it’s different :)


On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> There is a method which i found on the maccessibility news page. Convoluted, 
> and not able to do it yet, it's driving me crazy.
> 
> I might try it programmatically but i'm going through a textbook method and 
> they're entirely gui based so i'm left wanting, once more. Starting to get 
> tired of the whole idea of computers.
> 
> Feel like throwing this macbook out and hammer it 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/07/2013, at 12:28 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> To tack on to my previous comment here’s how you can programatically link 
>> objects with objective c
>> 
>> NSButton *theButton;
>> [theButton addTarget:self action:@selector(buttonMethod:) 
>> forControlEvents:someControlEvent];
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I am going through an IOS book right now, and am stuck at a point where i 
>>> need to create an action in my controller for a button. I'm supposed to 
>>> control drag a button to my assistant editor so that x code can 
>>> automatically place the appropriate action method and properties to my 
>>> project.h, project.m and project.xib files. But there is no control drag in 
>>> voice over.
>>> 
>>> Is this another unsurmountable obstacle or is there actually a method to do 
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> Any help greatly appreciated 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Yuma 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

[Tyler Thompson]

Let me start out by saying you don’t actually ever #include/#import the xib, 
(that’s the user interface file and even when you’ve chosen to use the 
interface builder you don’t ever include it anywhere) I can tell you that stack 
overflow is a wonderful resource for any objective c/cocoa help. (personally i 
find the apple documentation horribly lacking)

alright so if i were you just to start learning and understand what’s going on 
i’d add your button to your appDelegate (NSObject class automatically added to 
every project)

You’ll want to use either your 
-(void)applicationDidFinishLaunching:(NSNotification *)aNotification OR your 
-(void)awakeFromNib method to go ahead and draw your UIButton i’ll include a 
snippet in the email that uses awakeFromNib, should do what you’re looking 
for...

-(void)awakeFromNib
{
UIButton *myButton = [[UIButton alloc] 
initWithFrame:NSMakeRect(0,0,50,50)];
// this draws a square button (50 by 50 pixels) in the bottom left 
corner
[myButton addTarget:self action:@selector(buttonPressed) 
forControlEvents:UIControlEventTouchUpInside];
// this tells the button to use the buttonPressed method when the 
control event happens... i.e.: the user presses the button
}

-(void)buttonPressed
{
//Put whatever you want the button to do in here, right now it just 
logs the fact the button was pressed in your debug output
NSLog (@“SEE THE USER PRESSED THE BUTTON”)
}




The above code should work just fine although i wrote it in the email without 
testing, let me know if there’s any other way i can help :)



On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:

> Do you have a link where i can see where i'm supposed to programmatically 
> link controls?
> 
> I know there are statements to include in controller.h controller.m and 
> application.xib, but im not sure what i'm supposed to write in 
> application.xib 
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated. I've given up on emulating interface 
> manipulation with voice over, its the most time wasting thing i've done so 
> far.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/07/2013, at 2:12 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
>> believe me i understand the frustrations of working with objective C, 
>> especially if it’s new. As it happens I find that programmatically linking 
>> your UI elements tends to actually work a little better (as it gives you 
>> much more control), but for each person it’s different :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There is a method which i found on the maccessibility news page. 
>>> Convoluted, and not able to do it yet, it's driving me crazy.
>>> 
>>> I might try it programmatically but i'm going through a textbook method and 
>>> they're entirely gui based so i'm left wanting, once more. Starting to get 
>>> tired of the whole idea of computers.
>>> 
>>> Feel like throwing this macbook out and hammer it 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/07/2013, at 12:28 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To tack on to my previous comment here’s how you can programatically link 
>>>> objects with objective c
>>>> 
>>>> NSButton *theButton;
>>>> [theButton addTarget:self action:@selector(buttonMethod:) 
>>>> forControlEvents:someControlEvent];
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am going through an IOS book right now, and am stuck at a point where i 
>>>>> need to create an action in my controller for a button. I'm supposed to 
>>>>> control drag a button to my assistant editor so that x code can 
>>>>> automatically place the appropriate action method and properties to my 
>>>>> project.h, project.m and project.xib files. But there is no control drag 
>>>>> in voice over.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this another unsurmountable obstacle or is there actually a method to 
>>>>> do this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help greatly appreciated 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yuma 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>

Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

[Tyler Thompson]

 in the right direction?
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Thompson
> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 2:13 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: xcode creating actions and outlets
>  
> believe me i understand the frustrations of working with objective C, 
> especially if it’s new. As it happens I find that programmatically linking 
> your UI elements tends to actually work a little better (as it gives you much 
> more control), but for each person it’s different :)
>  
>  
> On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> There is a method which i found on the maccessibility news page. Convoluted, 
> and not able to do it yet, it's driving me crazy.
>  
> I might try it programmatically but i'm going through a textbook method and 
> they're entirely gui based so i'm left wanting, once more. Starting to get 
> tired of the whole idea of computers.
>  
> Feel like throwing this macbook out and hammer it 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
>  
>  
>  
> On 5/07/2013, at 12:28 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
> 
> To tack on to my previous comment here’s how you can programatically link 
> objects with objective c
>  
> NSButton *theButton;
> [theButton addTarget:self action:@selector(buttonMethod:) 
> forControlEvents:someControlEvent];
>  
>  
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I am going through an IOS book right now, and am stuck at a point where i 
> need to create an action in my controller for a button. I'm supposed to 
> control drag a button to my assistant editor so that x code can automatically 
> place the appropriate action method and properties to my project.h, project.m 
> and project.xib files. But there is no control drag in voice over.
>  
> Is this another unsurmountable obstacle or is there actually a method to do 
> this?
>  
> Any help greatly appreciated 
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Yuma 
>  
>  
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
>  
>  
>  
> 
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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

[Tyler Thompson]

a lot more about Objective C and the various APIS than we do. 
>> When people use the Interface builder, much of the heavy lifting is already 
>> done for them. Consequently, Authors who write textbooks don’t take the time 
>> to take us under the hood where we really need to be. Instead, they teach 
>> the Interface builder then teach students to write the code for the events. 
>> I checked www.overstock.com and found it to be a huge general purpose forum. 
>> We really need access to comprehensive Objective C documentation, a complete 
>> list of the APIS and the documentation for each. Once we learn to build 
>> applications programmatically, then we are more competent programmers than 
>> our sighted counterparts because we understand what’s really going on. In 
>> addition, when we use a textbook, we literally have to translate Interface 
>> Builder speak into lines of code. The question then is this, where is the 
>> Objective C documentation? Where can we find a description of all of the 
>> APIS? Can you point us in the right direction?
>>  
>> Thanks so much.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfTyler Thompson
>> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 2:13 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: xcode creating actions and outlets
>>  
>> believe me i understand the frustrations of working with objective C, 
>> especially if it’s new. As it happens I find that programmatically linking 
>> your UI elements tends to actually work a little better (as it gives you 
>> much more control), but for each person it’s different :)
>>  
>>  
>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> There is a method which i found on the maccessibility news page. Convoluted, 
>> and not able to do it yet, it's driving me crazy.
>>  
>> I might try it programmatically but i'm going through a textbook method and 
>> they're entirely gui based so i'm left wanting, once more. Starting to get 
>> tired of the whole idea of computers.
>>  
>> Feel like throwing this macbook out and hammer it 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On 5/07/2013, at 12:28 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> To tack on to my previous comment here’s how you can programatically link 
>> objects with objective c
>>  
>> NSButton *theButton;
>> [theButton addTarget:self action:@selector(buttonMethod:) 
>> forControlEvents:someControlEvent];
>>  
>>  
>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I am going through an IOS book right now, and am stuck at a point where i 
>> need to create an action in my controller for a button. I'm supposed to 
>> control drag a button to my assistant editor so that x code can 
>> automatically place the appropriate action method and properties to my 
>> project.h, project.m and project.xib files. But there is no control drag in 
>> voice over.
>>  
>> Is this another unsurmountable obstacle or is there actually a method to do 
>> this?
>>  
>> Any help greatly appreciated 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>>  
>> Yuma 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: Help with recording podcasts

[Tyler Thompson]

for the record (pun intended) audacity is available on mac.

On Jul 27, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Mike  wrote:

> Are you just doing your voice? It so then garage band, Amadeus pro, audio 
> hijack pro, or even Quicktime will do the trick. 
> I prefer audio hijack since it is much more robust 
> I have a a garage band tutorial on htb2.com but I'm on vacation and can't 
> help you out any more 
> 
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> On Jul 27, 2013, at 7:00 AM, Brandt  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there folks,
>> 
>> I use to use audacity for windows back in the day for recording podcasts, 
>> but have not done so since I bought the mac.
>> 
>> What software would you recommend, and where can I find good tutorials?
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Brandt Steenkamp
>> 
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>> 
>> Contact me:
>> 
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Re: Accessible FTP software

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I’ve seen a couple posts asking for FTP software. I wanted to chip in my 2 
cents here. So I haven’t ever seen a fully functional FTP client for mac from a 
3rd party developer. Ignoring accessibility issues they tend to be buggy. It 
is, however 100% possible to send files via FTP using your terminal (not sure 
that’s been discussed). Attached is a link with a brief tutorial on how to do 
just that.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-use-ftp-from-terminal-to-transfer-mac-files.html



On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Edward Green  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Please could someone recommend some accessible FTP software for use under OSX 
> Mountain Lion?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Ed
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Re: Accessible FTP software

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I don't know, I'll do a little research tonight 

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> On Aug 5, 2013, at 14:54, Edward Green  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Tyler, does Terminal support secure FTP do you know?
> 
> Ed
>> On 3 Aug 2013, at 13:28, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve seen a couple posts asking for FTP software. I wanted to chip in my 2 
>> cents here. So I haven’t ever seen a fully functional FTP client for mac 
>> from a 3rd party developer. Ignoring accessibility issues they tend to be 
>> buggy. It is, however 100% possible to send files via FTP using your 
>> terminal (not sure that’s been discussed). Attached is a link with a brief 
>> tutorial on how to do just that.
>> 
>> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-use-ftp-from-terminal-to-transfer-mac-files.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Edward Green  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Please could someone recommend some accessible FTP software for use under 
>>> OSX Mountain Lion?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ed
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Re: Accessible FTP software

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here’s a list of commands, i didn’t see another incredibly useful tutorial but, 
you should be able to get started with this: 


http://answers.stat.ucla.edu/groups/answers/wiki/7a848/


On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:22 AM, -  wrote:

> Someone asked:
> 
> "does Terminal support secure FTP do you know?"
> 
> Yes, it is sftp and there is a man page for it.  The commands once a 
> connection is established are a bit different then plain ftp.
> 
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Great text editor

[Tyler Thompson]

What do you all consider to be a great text editor for IOS (assuming a 
Bluetooth keyboard and/or Braille display is hooked up?)

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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

[Tyler Thompson]

Send me your Xcode project and let me take a look at what's going on, I won't 
have steady internet access for just a bit but I'll take a look ASAP

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> On Aug 28, 2013, at 13:36, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I know it has been some time since this thread ended, but I saved the below 
> message and just implemented the code therein. When I run it, I am told that 
> the build was successful, yet I get no window at all. As was instructed, I 
> erased the xib file entirely, and I have a suspicion that there is more to do 
> with instantiating a view so the Mac knows what to show than what is in the 
> below snippet. So, how might one get this to actually run? Also, should I 
> update app delegate.h, or will Xcode take care of it? I am asking here 
> because, frustratingly, I see an empty table when I switch to the debug 
> viewer, so I have no errors or warnings to work off of.
>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d like to post this little code snippet for anybody who’s interested. This 
>> is for OSX apps (as i find them easier to test) and it’s incredibly simple, 
>> but it’ll give anyone who is interested an idea of how to do what we’ve been 
>> talking about.
>> 
>> So i created a new project under Xcode and DELETED the .xib file (so the 
>> Interface Builder is never touched)
>> I named my Xcode project skipIB
>> 
>> I didn’t touch appDelegate.h but here’s what i’ve written for appDelegate.m
>> 
>> #import "AppDelegate.h"
>> 
>> @implementation AppDelegate
>> 
>> - (void)applicationDidFinishLaunching:(NSNotification *)aNotification
>> {
>> // Insert code here to initialize your application
>> NSButton *myButton = [[NSButton alloc] initWithFrame:NSMakeRect(0, 0, 
>> 50, 50)];
>> // We create a simple square button at the bottom left of the screen 
>> position 0,0
>> [[_window contentView] addSubview:myButton];
>> // We tell our applications main window to add our button to its view
>> [myButton setAction:@selector(buttonPressed)];
>> // We tell our button to use our buttonPressed method when the button is 
>> pressed...
>> }
>> 
>> -(void)buttonPressed
>> {
>> NSLog (@"YOU PRESSED THE BUTTON");
>> //We send a message to our debugger to let us know our button was pressed
>> }
>> 
>> @end
>> 
>> 
>> The point of this snippet is to show the ease of skipping the interface 
>> builder. This is accessible, you can run it, and press said button. To do 
>> this on IOS would have slightly different syntax, but the same idea applies. 
>> It actually took me longer to comment this code than it did to look up 
>> NSButtons setAction method in the apple docs and write the rest of the code.
>> 
>> I can’t say i’d provide a tutorial, but I would be more than happy to work 
>> with any individuals interested in writing apps for either IOS or OSX. I 
>> invite you all to try this code, i’ve just tested it (with voiceOver) and 
>> everything seems to be working’ fine :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know enough about Objective-c to know one way or the other, I'm 
>>> just telling you what people on those two lists said. The other problem in 
>>> all this is that, if you do find a tutorial on making UIs without IB, the 
>>> author assumes you are very well-versed in the language already. Beginners 
>>> generally use IB since it does the hard work that they do not understand, 
>>> plus it has myriad advantages (accessibility, proper declarations, plain 
>>> old ease of use, proper placement of code in files...) A step-by-step 
>>> buide, at the end of which we have a fully accessible, if simple, app and 
>>> where IB is not even mentioned, would be ideal.
>>>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m beta testing xcode 5 and it doesn’t look like anything has changed in 
>>>> that respect. While i have no desire to argue what you’ve pointed out I 
>>>> would like to say I disagree, i believe it’s not very difficult to ignore 
>>>> IB altogether if that’s what somebody chooses, I think the biggest danger 
>>>> is you can end up not making your app accessible by doing this.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are two lists, xcode-users and objc-language, both at apple.com. I 
>>>&

Re: Apple App Store & Refunds for inaccessible Apps

[Tyler Thompson]

Speaking as a developer I can say it takes a lot of work to make an app 
accessible, I feel there's a lot apple could do to help 3rd party developers 
create accessible apps. Including something as simple as improving the quality 
of their documentation 

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> The rep I talked to told me to submit a report at www.apple.com/feedback, but 
> I have not been able to figure out which category to use for my submission. 
> Still, if everyone sends a report about this issue, maybe we can get people 
> to take notice. The rep said that Apple's apps are accessible, but there is 
> little they can do about third-party apps. I pointed out that Apple reviews 
> every app and that they could give the developer feedback on accessibility at 
> the time of the app's review, and he thought that was a good idea. So, 
> whatever suggestions you have for fixing this problem, both on the App Store 
> return policy end and the app developer end, send them to 
> accessibil...@apple.com and submit them at www.apple.com/feedback.
> On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
>> I also suggest sending your message to feedb...@apple.com.  I think managers 
>> do see the emails from the feedback address.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/11/13 10:13, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> True. I'm actually on hold now, and the rep I am waiting for said he is not 
>>> sure and will have to look into this. I am hoping that, once he discovers 
>>> there is no policy in place for this situation, he can submit it, or tell 
>>> me where I should
>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:01 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alex & List,
 The squeaky wheel gets the grease!
 If more people take this pro active stance Apple will realize money is to 
 be maid even with our small market!
 SO! Call call and email!
 
 
 CHUCK REICHEL
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
 954-742-0019
 GUFFAWING :)
 In GOD I Trust
 
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> Apple's accessibility number is:
> 1 (877) 204-3930
> Note that, just as with standard support, you will be asked for your 
> product, serial number, and so on. Just get to a 
> human and explain you have a policy question, not 
> a tech support question, and you should be okay. I have not yet done this 
> - I'm waiting for a response to my email. Depending on how that goes, I 
> will or will not call them.
> On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps if we called the Apple Accessibility 
>>   number?  This might perhaps be a good time to provide it:  however, I 
>> don't happen to have it just now.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree, and I just wrote to them. I did not copy and paste your 
>>> message, but I did ask for clarification on their policies, and if they 
>>> plan to address accessibility during the app submission/review process. 
>>> I, too, urge everyone to do the same. Don't forget to call them as 
>>> well, since it might work better if you talk to a human, or even ask 
>>> for a manager to get your point across if the rep does not seem to get 
>>> what you mean.
>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>wrote:
>>> 
 That is my view and I sincerely hope that many of us will support it 
 and write to Apple.
 
 
 
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Re: VoiceOver seems choppy

[Tyler Thompson]

Do you by chance have boom for the mac? Running boom with VoiceOver in Yosemite 
causes that issue

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> I am just noticing this morning while reading some emails, that VoiceOver 
> seems really choppy. It will be reading a sentence and all of a sudden just 
> stop. And I have to start over from scratch to make sure the message is heard 
> correctly. Even as I am typing this, VoiceOver sticks on occasion. I am 
> running Yosemite, and I don’t know if this is a bug or not. It’s extremely 
> annoying.
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Re: How to stop getting the extra letters when using TextEdit or any other editor

[Tyler Thompson]

in TextEdit it’s bringing up a list of auto-complete/prediction options. The 
same as iOS8 gave us for sending text messages using their prediction technology
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Joseph  wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> Here’s one that really bothers me, I guess.
> When editing text, in a textedit or Pages.
> If you hit the escape key, the computer brings up I  I   I letters. what does 
> this mean and how do I stop this really dumb occurrence?
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Re: integrated programming environment

[Tyler Thompson]

Actually you could use Xcode and just call your files “other”, alternately text 
wrangler supports a line count and quite a few syntax options although i’m no 
sure as to it’s accessibility
> On Feb 12, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
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> I am a programmer, mostly php, perl, and bash. I'd like to try to use my Mac 
> as a development machine to write the code. Any suggestions for a text editor 
> to use to write code? Right now, I mostly use gedit on linux.
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Re: how to play midi files?

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You should be able to play a midi file using iTunes. It’ll just use the built 
in instruments on OS X so it’s not going to sound great. It seems like you’re 
somehow telling it to edit, I suggest pulling down the contextual menu (VO + 
Shift + M) and using open with > iTunes 
> On Feb 12, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Vivianna  wrote:
> 
> hi all.
> i am trying to play simple midi files on my mac air, running the latest 
> yosemite and, i have absolutely no idea how to do it?
> when i activate the button on the website to start the midi, it opens up 
> garageBand.  i don’t know where to go or what to do from there.  i do not see 
> the name of the file, any play or start or some such.
> is it necessary for me to learn garageBand to play these files or, is there 
> another way to play them?
> and, if i do need to use garageBand, is there any super simple, really really 
> easy beginner tutorial or podcast somewhere?
> thanks much.
> 
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Re: xcoders please help

[Tyler Thompson]

I’d strongly recommend starting out by looking at the apple docs: 
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AutolayoutPG/WorkingwithConstraints/WorkingwithConstraints.html
 

 

That being said I’m not a fan of the new auto-layout system. I usually uncheck 
the “use auto layout” box and either code my GUI elements to act the way I want 
or use the old “autoresizing” method.
> On Feb 19, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Any x code user here, could you tell me if you have a link or something about 
> constraints in interface builder?
> 
> I'm using version 6.1.1 and trying to figure this part out of a swift code 
> book I'm reading through.
> 
> best regards,
> 
> 
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Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello

My name is Tyler and I'm an apple developer. I've been making a MUD 
client (as I've never been satisfied with the ones available for mac). The 
client has regular expression support as well as the standard aliases triggers 
timers and variables. If you'd be interested in beta testing the client please 
let me know.

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Re: FTP Server.

[Tyler Thompson]

Apple has decided to stop supporting FTP because it is miserably insecure. You 
can enable SFTP easily by turning on "remote login" in your sharing preferences.

If for some reason you're genuinely forced to use FTP (again, not recommended) 
there may be a linux-style FTP server floating around in homebrew. A cursory 
glance suggests there are several.

If you're transferring files on a local network there are plenty of other 
options as well. 

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> On Oct 17, 2017, at 07:58, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
>  
> I don’t believe the server app includes FTP any longer.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FTP Server.
>  
> Hi,
>  
> There is also the Server app that works flawlessly with High Sierra which is 
> available in the App Store.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 04:51, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
>  
> Because it does not come with High Sierra.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
>  
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FTP Server.
>  
> Why not just use the FTP server that comes with Mac OS?
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
> Pure FTPD Is pretty good, at  least for various Unix  distributions. It’s 
> configuration files pretty easy to edit, and it’s pretty self-explanatory.
> You can also give proFTPD a try as well. Those are the only two servers that 
> I know of that might work.
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Re: remotely controlling another Mac

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Apple Remote Desktop does exist. There’s been tons of mixed reviews on it. If 
you’ve got the command-line experience SSH is what I’d recommend. 

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
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> A friend of mine just purchased a new iMac. He would like me to help him set 
> it up and configure it, and I am happy to do that. I was wondering, however, 
> if there was a way for me to connect to his Mac at all The Way one JAWS user 
> could connect with another JAWS user using tandem mode in the PC world.
> 
> Thank you for any information you can provide. 
> 
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Re: Making table of contents, and splitting to sections?

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Have you considered something like iBooks Author to make an ePub? I know it’s 
not an answer to your exact question but I suspect a good chunk of the 
functionality you want is pretty baked in.

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Hi all:
> 
> I need to make a table of contents a t the end of my research.
> 
> In MS Office, I can choose the hiddings to be in 1 table of contents.
> is it available In Pages?
> 
> my 2nd question is:
> my research contains 4 chapters, I need to split them into sections,
> to make some number modifications etc.
> Is it possible?
> 
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Re: VNC on mac OSX

[Tyler Thompson]

Ultimately you would have to use the remote machines screen reader. 
Unfortunately VNC does not support audio. You might be able to rig up some 
bizarre setup where you transmit audio over SSH and let VNC capture keyboard 
commands but you may have better luck with something like teamviewer 

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 07:18, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, but I can't imagine it's any better than VNC on any other Unix/Linux
> platform. Why would it be? This is an app that transfers picsels, not
> objects and object data.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if anyone has played with VNC on a mac computer?
>> 
>> I've got a mac book air and a mac mini,
>> 
>> The air is running sierra and the mini is  a late 2012 quad core machine 
>> spec'd out to the max for work,
>> 
>> Its running Yosemite currently and I'mtrying to setup remote access / 
>> desktop to the mini which I've got working however I can't get vo to speak 
>> through the connection,
>> Yet playing around with el capitan a couple of months ago I managed to have 
>> vo working through the remote connection and can't figure out how I did it.
>> 
>> Can anyone else advise on this and if they have had it work for them?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
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Re: Multiple Devices for Audio Output

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There's a way to create an audio MIDI device that talks to specific ports. I'm 
not able to give an exact link or instructions at the moment but look into your 
audio midi setup it's in the same folder (other) as tools like the activity 
monitor and terminal

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> I’ve done this several times, but for the life of me I cannot recall how I 
> did what I’m about to describe.
> 
> I have a USB headset that I want to use for VoiceOver output and for any 
> audio input I may want to use.  However, I want system sounds directed 
> through the headphone jack on my Mac mini that has fairly decent speakers 
> installed.  Most specifically, I have my Mac mini reporting the time of day 
> on the quarter hour and I want this coming through those speakers connected 
> to the 3.5 MM jack so I can hear that report throughout the house.  I cannot 
> remember how I had accomplished in the past.  Can anybody offer me some 
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill 
> - "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their 
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Re: Adding carriage returns to text file

[Tyler Thompson]

You could also use regular expressions in a wide variety of text editors to 
replace all \n characters (newline) with \r\n (basically the carriage return 
you were looking for)

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> Hello,
> I had the need to add carriage returns to a text file created on my mac so I 
> could read it properly on my braille device.  After several hours of 
> experimentation from articles found on google, I discovered that the only way 
> to accomplish this was using the “vi” program in terminal.  Here are the 
> steps:
> 
> 1.  open the terminal program.
> 2.  interact with the terminal window with vo shift down-arrow.
> 3.  if the file is not in your home directory, change to the appropriate 
> folder with the “cd” command.
> 4.  Open the file with the vi editor with “vi file”
> 5. type: “:set fileformat=dos” 
> 6.  Now save the file with “:wq”
> 
> Remember that the quotes around the above commands are NOT to be entered.
> 
> There may be other approaches, but this one is quite simple once you use it a 
> few times.
> 
> Chris
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