Re: Assigning a Keystroke to Open Spoken Content Options?

2022-12-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Herbie,

Sorry for the confusion. this doesn't have to do with Voiceover; it is the 
system text to speech I would like to adjust, such as the voice that announces 
the clock, etc.

Thanks,
Teresa

>   On Dec 2, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> If it’s just adjusting voices, you can do that with a VO Command Left and 
> Right Arrow to go through the options like Rate, voices, Etc, and VO command 
> up and down to make changes. You can also create activities that would assign 
> different voices to apps.
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 14:45, 'Teresa Cochran' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all. I use several apps that use the system voice for speech. Rather 
>> than wending my way through System Settings to Accessibility, Spoken 
>> Content, etc., I'd like to make a shortcut or use scripting or automation to 
>> jump into the Spoken Content settings to adjust voices. What's the best way 
>> to do this? I'm a little confused about where to start.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
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Tip: Facebook Tagging Seems to Work Best With Cursor tracking Off

2012-02-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

When using the Facebook full site, I've tried tagging with cursor tracking on 
with no effect. However, it seems to work quite consistently with cursor 
tracking off.

when I want to tag someone in my status, I type the @ symbol, immediately 
followed by the beginning of a person's name. I then turn cursor tracking off 
with VO-Shift-f3, then press VO-shift-end to go to the end of the spoken 
webpage content. I VO-left from there until I reach the name I want, then 
VO-space on it. I can then edit it, for example taking the last name out (as 
in, "Mike showed me this the other day and I thought I'd share it." Then I post 
as usual.

I am using DOM order with the full site. I haven't tried this on the mobile 
site, and I haven't tried it with the IPod Touch in either the app or the 
website.

HTH,
Teresa

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Re: Tip: Facebook Tagging Seems to Work Best With Cursor tracking Off

2012-02-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
That's even easier! I saw something about that on Facebook, but they didn't 
specifically indicate pressing the enter key. Webbl, that definitely makes life 
easier. Thanks for this.

Teresa


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> I've been tagging people in a bit of a different way. I type the @ symbol 
> followed by the first few letters of a person's name. I then proceed with the 
> press of the ENTER key and the rest of the person's name is completed.
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>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> When using the Facebook full site, I've tried tagging with cursor tracking 
>> on with no effect. However, it seems to work quite consistently with cursor 
>> tracking off.
>> 
>> when I want to tag someone in my status, I type the @ symbol, immediately 
>> followed by the beginning of a person's name. I then turn cursor tracking 
>> off with VO-Shift-f3, then press VO-shift-end to go to the end of the spoken 
>> webpage content. I VO-left from there until I reach the name I want, then 
>> VO-space on it. I can then edit it, for example taking the last name out (as 
>> in, "Mike showed me this the other day and I thought I'd share it." Then I 
>> post as usual.
>> 
>> I am using DOM order with the full site. I haven't tried this on the mobile 
>> site, and I haven't tried it with the IPod Touch in either the app or the 
>> website.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
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Text Attributes for Specific Items?

2012-02-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I'm wondering if there's a keystroke that can be used when focussed on a 
particular item, without turning on attributes verbosity in VO utility?

Thanks,

Teresa

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Never Mind, Was Re: Text Attributes for Specific Items?

2012-02-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
I found the keystroke, VO-T. It had just slipped my mind, and I knew I had used 
it a few times before.

Teresa

On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> I'm wondering if there's a keystroke that can be used when focussed on a 
> particular item, without turning on attributes verbosity in VO utility?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Teresa
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Re: Text Attributes for Specific Items?

2012-02-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Esther. Yes, I had forgotten about VO-T for some reason.

Teresa

On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> Can't you just highlight the text item and use VO-T? For example, I just 
> tried this on selected text  and got:  "15 point Arial, a shade of Gray 3".
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I'm wondering if there's a keystroke that can be used when focussed on a 
>> particular item, without turning on attributes verbosity in VO utility?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
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Re: Netflix on Mac?

2012-02-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
The site works fairly well on the Mac. You do have to download the silverlite 
plugin, which safari will find for you. The downside is that as far as I know, 
there isn't a way to use the controls for the player, i.e. play, pause, etc. 
You would have to start the video over again. Someone correct me, please, if I 
am wrong. I'd love to be wrong in this.

HTH,
Teresa
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On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Traci wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Is it doable to watch Netflix on the Mac and use voiceover?  I'd like to 
> select which episodes I want to watch, and I'd like to put the show in 
> full-screen.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: hybrid computing

2012-03-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
That's kind of fascinating. I wonder if someone would ever do that with Mac OS 
X?

Teresa

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On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
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> This sounds as if it may solve a number of problems.  See article below.
>  
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> N Y Times Tech news for the week of Thursday 2/23/2012
>  Windows on the iPad, and Speedy


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Re: if interaction went away

2012-03-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think interaction makes a lot of sense when using a keyboard, but it isn't 
quite so essential with a trackpad. I don't really see the concept going away, 
because so much more information is displayed with a desktop than with a mobile 
device.

Teresa

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On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> Considering that OS 10.8 is supposedly going to be much like IOS in many 
> respects, it occurred to me that perhaps we might see in 10.8 the vanishing 
> of the concept of interaction.  For those of us with Iphones, that might not 
> be such a big deal; but, I just can't help wondering.  How would y'all feel 
> if the very concept of interaction, (something which we just do without 
> thinking in Mac OS), were to go away?  Bear in mind that I have no 
> indications that interaction will be going away in 10.8; still, I thought it 
> might be fun to see how the group feels about that.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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Re: 2 mail ishues

2012-03-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
In the message list, use VO-shift home and end to get to the top and bottom of 
the list respectively. To move a message, go to the message menu and choose 
"move to folder."

HTh,
teresa

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On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Egbert wrote:

> HI,
> IN my mail there are two things i don't understand.
> When there are 600 mails, how do i navigate quick to the first or last one?
> and how can i save an important mail in a folder of my choose?
> I hope to hear from you,
> Egbert 
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Re: ITunes, Was if interaction went away

2012-03-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
I use VO-command-t and -shift-VO-command-t to go to tables and VO-command-h to 
go to headings in the app store. Otherwise, I don't mind interacting.

Teresa

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On Mar 1, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Garth Humphreys wrote:

> All the interacting in iTunes can be annoying at times. But overall I like 
> the interaction model. Ricardo if you ever find yourself using iTunes on 
> windows try the F6. It jumps you past some of that tabbinghell.   
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 02/03/2012, at 11:06 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> I've never used Itunes on Windows, but I will say I find it no end 
>> irritating to have to interact with a group just to find out of a checkbox 
>> is checked or not in the books table. Or I have to interact with a group 
>> just to go to the link for an item in the app store or go to a book title in 
>> the app store. That's a lot of clicking just to get access to a link. and 
>> then there are the listen links in itunes album tables. It isn't good enough 
>> just to focus on the link. You have to interact with it to click it. It 
>> didn't use to be that way with the checkboxes. I wish they'd put it back the 
>> way it use to be. 
>> 
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Re: A little spellcheck before pressing send please?

2012-03-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think reviewing messages is an excellent thing to do. I even do this for 
messages to people I know well. I find a fair amount of letter transposition 
and characters left out, etc. so it's a good thing I do review.

Teresa

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On Mar 2, 2012, at 3:10 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> I guess the important thing is we remember why we are on these lists to get a 
> little help from each other and whilst today (I do not know about the US), 
> politicians go on and on about how bad it is that people cannot write 
> properly, People such as ourselves who rely on verbal communication are 
> hopefully going to make extra effort to get their messages across in an 
> intelligent and professional manner as for us we have to do more 
> demonstrating to the world if we are going to succeed in our lives.  I just 
> don't think we should judge each other by our spelling as long as we get the 
> help and advice we need to use our tools and gadgets.  I hope I make sense as 
> I always appreciate the help and the friends I may have made from the lists I 
> belong to.
> 
> Kawal.
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> On 2 Mar 2012, at 10:53 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
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>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not looking to start a pissing contest here, but can you definitively 
>> state that you know every person reviews his/her messages prior to sending 
>> it? I really doubt that. You obviously take time to review your messages and 
>> I will not argue that point with you because I am not sitting with you when 
>> you send the message. I think the point is people should keep in mind that 
>> the messages they send are a reflection of themselves. So, if you want 
>> people to think of you as intelligent etc. you try to send intelligent 
>> sounding messages. Now of course we all have off days and messages get a bit 
>> garbled at times. :)
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd like to take issue on this to say that as long as one can make 
>>> themselves understood, then the person is on the right track. You are very 
>>> wrong to say  people do not review their messages before sending as I know 
>>> that people do that, I being for one. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kawal. 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Mar 2012, at 03:22 AM, Emrah  wrote:
>>> 
 Guys,
 
 For some reason, ever since I upgraded to Lion, VO announces me misspelled 
 words when I read emails, not just when composing.
 
 I guess it's ok not to always start with some sort of a polite greeting... 
 I don't always do it when replying to messages. However, I think we should 
 dedicate a bit more attention to our spelling. Some emails on the list are 
 really creepy!
 
 Please make a little effort to improve your spelling please. I am not 
 talking about people with English difficulties. I am referring to people 
 that sound like native American / English and do not review their emails 
 before sending. English is my 4th language and I do try to sound coherent 
 and use the right punctuation. It looks and plays nicer when using a text 
 to speech!
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Mac + Chrome + Netflix = html5?

2012-03-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, traci,

As far as I'm aware, Netflix uses the Microsoft Silverlite player, which is not 
particularly accessible with VO. You can go to a page and play files, but the 
controls for playback are hidden from VO. If you've heard differently, let me 
know. The upshot is that if Silverlite is the only way to access video 
playback, it doesn't matter what browser you use. Each browser will need a 
Silverlite plugin in order to play the videos.

If you want to try Google Chrome, it is easy to get going once you download. 
The only major problem with VO is that frames on web pages aren't read well at 
all.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Traci wrote:

> Ok, great!
> 
> If I decided to give Chrome a whirl, to test out Netflix, is it an easy 
> experiment?  Meaning, once I download and install, do I go to system 
> preferences to choose how I surf the web?  If I don't like Chrome, is it easy 
> to switch back to Safari?
> 
> Lol, I'll have to look up some podcasts to learn more.
> 
> If this makes Netflix more VO Friendly, it could be cool.
> 
> Traci
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
> 
> On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Chrome works just fine on the Mac now.  You can just use it with voiceover.  
>> The screen reader plugin isn't necessary.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
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>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Michael Malarsie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know anything about Chrome on the Mac. I downloaded in on my PC 
>>> afew months ago and it was completely inaccessible. I did some reserch and 
>>> found out that before it will work with JAWS there is some third party 
>>> software that must be downloaded first. 
>>> Other than that i don't know anything about it..
>>> 
>>> Mike Malarsie 
>>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Traci wrote:
>>> 
 Any users out there of Netflix and Chrome?
 
 I've been googling to see alternatives to streaming Netflix and came 
 across many articles talking about Netflix and html5 for Chrome and Linex.
 
 I was wondering if the Chrome experience was better with VO?
 
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Re: Mac + Chrome + Netflix = html5?

2012-03-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Minor correction in case folks are looking for the plugins: it's Silverlight 
with a g-h and not i-t-e., as I had spelled it earlier. Also, I just tried 
Silverlight with Google Chrome, and the controls are not accessible with VO. 
It's possible to play Netflix videos, as it is in Safari, bt not possible to 
use the play and pause controls, etc.

Teresa

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On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, traci,
> 
> As far as I'm aware, Netflix uses the Microsoft Silverlite player, which is 
> not particularly accessible with VO. You can go to a page and play files, but 
> the controls for playback are hidden from VO. If you've heard differently, 
> let me know. The upshot is that if Silverlite is the only way to access video 
> playback, it doesn't matter what browser you use. Each browser will need a 
> Silverlite plugin in order to play the videos.
> 
> If you want to try Google Chrome, it is easy to get going once you download. 
> The only major problem with VO is that frames on web pages aren't read well 
> at all.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
>   
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Traci wrote:
> 
>> Ok, great!
>> 
>> If I decided to give Chrome a whirl, to test out Netflix, is it an easy 
>> experiment?  Meaning, once I download and install, do I go to system 
>> preferences to choose how I surf the web?  If I don't like Chrome, is it 
>> easy to switch back to Safari?
>> 
>> Lol, I'll have to look up some podcasts to learn more.
>> 
>> If this makes Netflix more VO Friendly, it could be cool.
>> 
>> Traci
>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Chrome works just fine on the Mac now.  You can just use it with voiceover. 
>>>  The screen reader plugin isn't necessary.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Michael Malarsie  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't know anything about Chrome on the Mac. I downloaded in on my PC 
>>>> afew months ago and it was completely inaccessible. I did some reserch and 
>>>> found out that before it will work with JAWS there is some third party 
>>>> software that must be downloaded first. 
>>>>Other than that i don't know anything about it..
>>>> 
>>>> Mike Malarsie 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Traci wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Any users out there of Netflix and Chrome?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been googling to see alternatives to streaming Netflix and came 
>>>>> across many articles talking about Netflix and html5 for Chrome and Linex.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was wondering if the Chrome experience was better with VO?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Traci
>>>>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
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Anyone Ever Use Homespun Music for Instruction?

2012-03-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

It seems to me that the Instant Access app for the Mac is not accessible. Does 
anyone know if there's another way to download the files? I saw something in 
the app about using an alternate player, but that's probably just for playing 
the music lessons.

Meanwhile, I'm purchasing an old-fashioned CD from them, because I really 
believe in what they do, and I want to learn Hawaiian slack-key guitar. :)

TiA,
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Sysdiagnose Files Popping up Spontaneously in Finder?

2012-03-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I can be in the middle of doing anything on my Mac Mini, and suddenly, a file 
called sysdiagnose with a date pops into being. I've tried backtracking through 
the file path, and it seems to be hd/private/temp/sysdiagnosennn (where nnn is 
the date). . Anyone have ideas?

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Re: Anyone Ever Use Homespun Music for Instruction?

2012-03-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Unfortunately, the site seems to be down. I'll look at the catalog for NLS, but 
none of his books appear to be on Bard either.

Thanks much,

Teresa
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> Hi Teresa,
> 
> Don't know about the player in question, but I thought I'd mention 
> blindvi.com.  Bill brown runs it & creates tutorials for guitar, piano, 
> banjo, drums & etc for the blind.  It's a great sight & NLS carries quite a 
> few of his titles.  Might want to check it out.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> It seems to me that the Instant Access app for the Mac is not accessible. 
>> Does anyone know if there's another way to download the files? I saw 
>> something in the app about using an alternate player, but that's probably 
>> just for playing the music lessons.
>> 
>> Meanwhile, I'm purchasing an old-fashioned CD from them, because I really 
>> believe in what they do, and I want to learn Hawaiian slack-key guitar. :)
>> 
>> TiA,
>> Teresa
>> 
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Re: Anyone Ever Use Homespun Music for Instruction?

2012-03-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks! I did find Brown's tutorials on the NLS site, but no slck-key thus far. 
I will look at the site, too.

The player that Homespun uses is called MOD Machine, and is completely 
invisible to VO. I sent a nice polite inquiry off to Leaping Brains, the 
designers of this player, and I will see what happens.

Thanks,
Teresa

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> Teresa,
> 
> Actually, musicvi.com is up & running.  And, he doesn't right books, but 
> creates lessons regarding particular songs or series of lessons regarding 
> particular styles on CD or digital downloads from his site.  NLS' music 
> section has them for loan, on cassette, via snail mail.  If you're interested 
> go to NLS' regular site, not BARD, & put Bill Brown in the author's search h 
> field.  It's not as quick as BARD, but well worth the outlay of effort.  I've 
> learned a lot from his material.  His site, also, has quite a bit of sample 
> links to listen & judge their worth to you.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately, the site seems to be down. I'll look at the catalog for NLS, 
>> but none of his books appear to be on Bard either.
>> 
>> Thanks much,
>> 
>> Teresa
>> "Visualize whirled peas."
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 3:07 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Teresa,
>>> 
>>> Don't know about the player in question, but I thought I'd mention 
>>> blindvi.com.  Bill brown runs it & creates tutorials for guitar, piano, 
>>> banjo, drums & etc for the blind.  It's a great sight & NLS carries quite a 
>>> few of his titles.  Might want to check it out.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> 
>>>> It seems to me that the Instant Access app for the Mac is not accessible. 
>>>> Does anyone know if there's another way to download the files? I saw 
>>>> something in the app about using an alternate player, but that's probably 
>>>> just for playing the music lessons.
>>>> 
>>>> Meanwhile, I'm purchasing an old-fashioned CD from them, because I really 
>>>> believe in what they do, and I want to learn Hawaiian slack-key guitar. :)
>>>> 
>>>> TiA,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
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Re: Chrome has become unusable

2012-03-08 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Eric,

My Chrome seems to work fine. I haven't used Chromevox in awhile, so I can't 
speak to that issue. However, in my case, VO seems to read with Chrome just 
fine. I think if I were in your place I would try a reinstall of both the 
browser and the extension.

HTh,
Teresa

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> Hi listers,
> 
> I finally decided to give Chromevox a try.  For the last two days it
> worked reasonably well, but today I attempted to go to the next
> heading and must have hit the wrong keystroke.  I think I accidentally
> disabled Chromevox, and I can't figure out how to re-enable it.  A
> google search kept telling me about enabling accessibility with
> control-z, which does nothing.  I assume this is only on Chromebooks.
> Even more troubling is that Voiceover doesn't seem to work at all with
> web pages on Chrome now.  When I attempt to interact with the HTML
> content, it seems to act as though it is empty.  I can select the
> extensions menu with VO, but cannot read anything.  I would appreciate
> any help anyone could offer in resolving this.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Eric
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Re: Google eBooks

2012-03-09 Thread Teresa Cochran
Just be sure that 1. flowed text is available for the book and 2. you you set 
this option in settings if the book isn't read by VO. Scanned pages are not 
accessible.

Teresa

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On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> The one I purchased has been accessible on mac using safari and using the 
> google books app on my iPhone.  The mac experience has been more positive 
> than the IOS one but they both seem to work fine.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:
> 
>> Hello list:
>> 
>> Do any of you know whether Google eBooks are accessible with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Ezzie Bueno
>> Sent from my Macbook Pro
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Re: Google eBooks

2012-03-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Only the ones in the public domain are free. You can buy books in the Google 
ebook store. Once you buy them you can read them on the computer or on a mobile 
device. You can also sync them between computer and device, and read from where 
you leave off in either case.

Teresa

On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

> Are google ebooks free? How do they work? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Becky
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Just be sure that 1. flowed text is available for the book and 2. you you 
>> set this option in settings if the book isn't read by VO. Scanned pages are 
>> not accessible.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>> 
>>> The one I purchased has been accessible on mac using safari and using the 
>>> google books app on my iPhone.  The mac experience has been more positive 
>>> than the IOS one but they both seem to work fine.
>>> 
>>> -Greg
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello list:
>>>> 
>>>> Do any of you know whether Google eBooks are accessible with VoiceOver?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Ezzie Bueno
>>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>>>> ezziebu...@gmail.com
>>>> (323) 448-0757
>>>> 
>>>> Check out daily jokes and more!
>>>> 
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Re: Chrome has become unusable

2012-03-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
I can still use it on mine. I'm puzzled that it still wouldn't work for you 
after you reinstalled. I am stumped. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Teresa

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On Mar 11, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote:

> I hate to bump my own thread, but Chrome is still unusable on my Mac.
> Am I the only one having this problem?  Is everyone else on this list
> just sticking with Safari/Webkit?
> Thanks in advance.
> Eric
> 
> On 3/8/12, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
>> I removed the browser, re-downloaded and installed it, and I'm still
>> having the same problem.  It does seem to have retained its settings
>> from the prior install, since it is still showing my google account.
>> This has become unbelievably frustrating.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> On 3/8/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Hi, Eric,
>>> 
>>> My Chrome seems to work fine. I haven't used Chromevox in awhile, so I
>>> can't
>>> speak to that issue. However, in my case, VO seems to read with Chrome
>>> just
>>> fine. I think if I were in your place I would try a reinstall of both the
>>> browser and the extension.
>>> 
>>> HTh,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I finally decided to give Chromevox a try.  For the last two days it
>>>> worked reasonably well, but today I attempted to go to the next
>>>> heading and must have hit the wrong keystroke.  I think I accidentally
>>>> disabled Chromevox, and I can't figure out how to re-enable it.  A
>>>> google search kept telling me about enabling accessibility with
>>>> control-z, which does nothing.  I assume this is only on Chromebooks.
>>>> Even more troubling is that Voiceover doesn't seem to work at all with
>>>> web pages on Chrome now.  When I attempt to interact with the HTML
>>>> content, it seems to act as though it is empty.  I can select the
>>>> extensions menu with VO, but cannot read anything.  I would appreciate
>>>> any help anyone could offer in resolving this.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> Eric
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Most DVDs Won't Play All of a Sudden

2012-03-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

In the last month, I've noticed that DVDs won't play. The player seems to 
consider them a foreign object. It spins for about 30 seconds and then spits 
them out again. I don't know if this is a hardware or software issue. What can 
I try on the software side to reset drivers or disk permissions, etc.?

Thanks,

Teresa

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Re: Most DVDs Won't Play All of a Sudden

2012-03-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oh boy. Ok, thanks, Kevin. I think I'll blame my cats for this. Ok, it could 
happen. :)

Teresa

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On Mar 12, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> 
> YOu most likely have some kind of hardware issue, probably something stuck in 
> the drive itself. This happened to me and it ended up being a piece of paper. 
> Take your machine to an Apple Store and they can remove it for you. 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Kevin Shaw
> On 2012-03-12, at 7:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> In the last month, I've noticed that DVDs won't play. The player seems to 
>> consider them a foreign object. It spins for about 30 seconds and then spits 
>> them out again. I don't know if this is a hardware or software issue. What 
>> can I try on the software side to reset drivers or disk permissions, etc.?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
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Re: Shutting Down with Lion

2012-03-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Try command-e. This might work.

Teresa

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On Mar 12, 2012, at 5:58 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Hi,  I am using a windows keyboard.  Does anyone know  if there is a way to 
> find the eject buton on the windows keyboard?  Just knd of wondering.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> you can also get the shut down dialog to appear by pressing control eject.  
>> I find this to be much easier than arrowing through menus. JMO.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> I have installed Lion (I know a little late, but its running well).
>>> I have been able to make most of my modifications by  searching on the 
>>> Internet, but one that is somewhat bothersome is shutting down Lion.
>>> Under Snow Leopard I would shutdown by accessing the menu bar, then 
>>> arrowing down to shutdown, then arrowing over to the shutdown feature. In 
>>> Lion I cannot do this. I've looked in system preferences and have had not 
>>> luck finding something that will let me revert to the native method of 
>>> shutting down. An archive search and Internet search did not help. Can 
>>> anyone provide me a solution or is this something where I must wait for the 
>>> minute before the machine shuts down?
>>> 
>>> P.S I am not a fan of cmd/option/ctrl/eject method :)
>>> 
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Re: Most DVDs Won't Play All of a Sudden

2012-03-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ok, good news for me. I ran one of those cleaning CDs with the little brushes 
on it through my drive, and it works fine now. Yay. :)


Teresa

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On Mar 13, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Agreed. Or all your DVDs went bad at the same time :) Hopefully whatever is 
> in there isn't scratching up your disks. Another test could be to boot off 
> the installer, launch Disk Utility and then try putting in a DVD. If it won't 
> mount then it's a hardware problem because all the software involved is 
> straight from the installer, not your usual system stuff.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/13/12 3:06 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>> It's a hardware issue and needs to be resolved by an apple engineer 
>> depending on your system.
>> 
>> It's happened with 2 machines of mine in 5 years  so it's mainly a rogue DVD 
>> superdrive.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 12 Mar 2012, at 23:33, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> In the last month, I've noticed that DVDs won't play. The player seems to 
>>> consider them a foreign object. It spins for about 30 seconds and then 
>>> spits them out again. I don't know if this is a hardware or software issue. 
>>> What can I try on the software side to reset drivers or disk permissions, 
>>> etc.?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
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Re: DVD's

2012-03-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
In DVD Player, you use space to play and pause, right-arrow and left-arrows to 
go to next and previous chapters. In the menus, the keystrokes are listed, 
especially for the controls menu.

htH,
Teresa

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On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:

> Hello Lis:
> 
> How exactly can I get DVD's to play effectively? It is hard to keep guessing 
> which button to press or what to select on the title submenue.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: DVD's

2012-03-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Which application are you using? Those work in DVD Player.

Teresa

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On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:

> Hello Teresa and All,
> 
> I'm trying to watch TV seasons. Pressing the Space has not gotten the shows 
> to play. I've tried using the controls and nothing has happened. What could I 
> possibly be missing?
> 
> 
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> On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> In DVD Player, you use space to play and pause, right-arrow and left-arrows 
>> to go to next and previous chapters. In the menus, the keystrokes are 
>> listed, especially for the controls menu.
>> 
>> htH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Lis:
>>> 
>>> How exactly can I get DVD's to play effectively? It is hard to keep 
>>> guessing which button to press or what to select on the title submenue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ezzie Bueno
>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro
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>>> (323) 448-0757
>>> 
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I Really Need Assistance With ZTerm; Can Anyone Help?

2012-03-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

In the past, I've used ZTerm to move files between my computer and my Braille 
Lite. Now the Braille Lite isn't working with it at all. I've tested the 
notetaker with other computers and it works fine with JAWS on my husband's 
computer.

Can somebody give me some ideas as to what to try, or write me off-list, please?

Thanks bunches,
Teresa

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Re: Enabling Chromevox

2012-03-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Marc,

Open Google Chrome with VO on and go to preferences with command-comma. In the 
list of tabs, go to Extensions. Tab through and see if Chromevox is listed 
there. If it is, there is a checkbox to enable or disable it. Once you enable 
it, turn VO off.

If it isn't listed, go to the link that says, "view gallery" and search for it. 
Once you find it, there will be an "add to Chrome" button. Do this, and wait a 
few minutes. It should start self-voicing and offering links to tutorials, etc.

I just played with it, and Chromevox now works with Chrome preferences, which 
is a giant improvement. I may play with it some more now because of this 
important development.

HTH,
Teresa

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> Hi List,
> I installed the Chromevox extension in Google Chrome. I didn't notice any 
> particular behavior different than before. Does someone know how to enable 
> the extension? I want to try and use it without vo. In particular, to see how 
> well it works with google docs, calendar, etc. And supposedly it works better 
> than if you are using voiceover. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Enabling Chromevox

2012-03-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Marc,

With VO, use VO-RIGHT to a:ess the extension properties. With Chromevox 
speaking, however, you can just turn VO off.

You can access a quick key commands list by pressing command-control-period. 
Command-control is the key modifier sequence for Chromevox, also called ChVox. 
So the help list is ChVox-period, and the interactive tutorial is ChVox-H. You 
can navigate through content with ChVox arrows.
HTH
Teresa


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On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> It seems that chromevox is speaking now. But when i get to extensions and tab 
> through there is no mention of chromevox. When i turn voiceover on all i hear 
> is it saying "extensions" but it won't read any text. And I never did hear 
> anything about a tutorial or gallery or anything like that. Are there 
> hromevox commands other than tab that get it to speak certain detail? A 
> command for increasing the speech rate? Thanks.
> Marc
> 
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Marc,
>> 
>> Open Google Chrome with VO on and go to preferences with command-comma. In 
>> the list of tabs, go to Extensions. Tab through and see if Chromevox is 
>> listed there. If it is, there is a checkbox to enable or disable it. Once 
>> you enable it, turn VO off.
>> 
>> If it isn't listed, go to the link that says, "view gallery" and search for 
>> it. Once you find it, there will be an "add to Chrome" button. Do this, and 
>> wait a few minutes. It should start self-voicing and offering links to 
>> tutorials, etc.
>> 
>> I just played with it, and Chromevox now works with Chrome preferences, 
>> which is a giant improvement. I may play with it some more now because of 
>> this important development.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> I installed the Chromevox extension in Google Chrome. I didn't notice any 
>>> particular behavior different than before. Does someone know how to enable 
>>> the extension? I want to try and use it without vo. In particular, to see 
>>> how well it works with google docs, calendar, etc. And supposedly it works 
>>> better than if you are using voiceover. Any help would be appreciated. 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Marc
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Re: Enabling Chromevox

2012-03-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Marc,

Yes, your mileage may vary, depending on which versions of Chrome and VO and 
Chromevox you may be using. When you feel comfortable doing it, you might want 
to install the latest versions of Chrome and Chromevox. In the extension 
preferences, there is a "remove" button for each extension. Try using Chrome 
with VO off and see what happens while chromevox is speaking.

HTh,
Teresa

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On Mar 16, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:

> Thanks Teresa. My vo right combination just keeps saying preferences 
> extensions and will go no further. I will play with it some more. Even when i 
> interact with that i get the same response. Interesting. Thanks.
> Marc
> 
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Marc,
>> 
>> With VO, use VO-RIGHT to a:ess the extension properties. With Chromevox 
>> speaking, however, you can just turn VO off.
>> 
>> You can access a quick key commands list by pressing command-control-period. 
>> Command-control is the key modifier sequence for Chromevox, also called 
>> ChVox. So the help list is ChVox-period, and the interactive tutorial is 
>> ChVox-H. You can navigate through content with ChVox arrows.
>> HTH
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Teresa,
>>> It seems that chromevox is speaking now. But when i get to extensions and 
>>> tab through there is no mention of chromevox. When i turn voiceover on all 
>>> i hear is it saying "extensions" but it won't read any text. And I never 
>>> did hear anything about a tutorial or gallery or anything like that. Are 
>>> there hromevox commands other than tab that get it to speak certain detail? 
>>> A command for increasing the speech rate? Thanks.
>>> Marc
>>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Marc,
>>>> 
>>>> Open Google Chrome with VO on and go to preferences with command-comma. In 
>>>> the list of tabs, go to Extensions. Tab through and see if Chromevox is 
>>>> listed there. If it is, there is a checkbox to enable or disable it. Once 
>>>> you enable it, turn VO off.
>>>> 
>>>> If it isn't listed, go to the link that says, "view gallery" and search 
>>>> for it. Once you find it, there will be an "add to Chrome" button. Do 
>>>> this, and wait a few minutes. It should start self-voicing and offering 
>>>> links to tutorials, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> I just played with it, and Chromevox now works with Chrome preferences, 
>>>> which is a giant improvement. I may play with it some more now because of 
>>>> this important development.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> I installed the Chromevox extension in Google Chrome. I didn't notice any 
>>>>> particular behavior different than before. Does someone know how to 
>>>>> enable the extension? I want to try and use it without vo. In particular, 
>>>>> to see how well it works with google docs, calendar, etc. And supposedly 
>>>>> it works better than if you are using voiceover. Any help would be 
>>>>> appreciated. Thanks.
>>>>> Marc
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Re: Buffering

2012-03-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Rahul,

Flash content is very resource-intensive. HTML5 media content is being used 
more and more. Youtube has this trial going on:
http://www.youtube.com/html5
The player is built right into the HTML coding and is a much cleaner solution.

You can also install an extension for Safari, ClickToPlugin. This will convert 
the flash players into HTML5 for Youtube and other sites.
http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/

Ironically, it seems that the plugin for Safari works best if the flash player 
is updated to the latest version. This is Adobe Flash 11.

HTH,
Teresa
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On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> My current Internet plan claims  to provide a speed of 2 MB per second.
> However, I find it extremely frustrating to watch any  video on YouTube, 
> because the video keeps buffering all the time.
> The site isn't even fully accessible, so I can't even pause the video until 
> it gets fully loaded.
> Sometimes, absolutely nothing happens for about 5-10 minutes after I start 
> the video.
> 
> So, can I do anything to fix this?
> Is there any app or extension which might  help me?
> 
> Cheers,
> Rahul 
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Silverlight and clickToPlugin?

2012-03-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

The ClickToPlugin info says it can substitute Silverlight Content with HTML5 
controls. I use Netflix all the time. The Silverlight player is completely 
inaccessible. How do you use the source selector on the placeholder in 
ClickToPlugin to select HTML5, or is there a way to do this?

Thanks,
Teresa
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Re: Accessible Apps And Games In Facebook?

2012-03-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
I used to play one called My Zoo, which is basically webpages with a small 
amount of Javascript on them. In this game, you build a zoo and increase your 
resources by providing infrastructure to make customers happy. If you let it, 
it will post pictures of baby animals you've acquired, and folks love that.

HTH,
Teresa

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> Hello list:
> 
> Do any of you know of, or play any of the games and apps on Facebook (besides 
> 21 Questions, Get Revealed and How Well Do You Know Me)? What do y'all 
> recommend?
> 
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Advanced ClicktoPlugin Question: Adding Killer File For Silverlight

2012-03-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I found this very intriguing page on the developer site.
http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/killers.xhtml

Under the heading: "how to add killers" it mentions adding a URL to a 
script-list after opening ClicktoPlugin preferences. I have no idea which area 
he is referring to. I don't see a script list in the preferences pane, nor in 
the pList file. I realize I know just enough to make me dangerous, but is there 
anyone who can help?

Thanks,
Teresa

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Bluetooth/USB Braille Display Has Different Key Mappings for Each Mode

2012-03-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I have a Focus 40 Blue, and when I switch it to USB from Bluetooth to charge, 
it has a much more limited set of key commands. Does anyone else have this 
problem?

Thanks,
Teresa

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Facebook Audio and video Chat Accessible?

2012-03-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I've already set up Facebook Chat to work inIChat via the Jabber protocol. Does 
audio and video work through Ichat too?

Thanks,
Teresa

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Desktop and Screensaver Preferences "busy"?

2012-03-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

Every time I try to adjust the screensaver preferences in System Preferences, 
VO just says busy and I can't access this pane at all. Does anyone else 
experience this issue?

Teresa

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Re: Desktop and Screensaver Preferences "busy"?

2012-03-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Ray. I figured it out, sort of. I had to use the mouse keys to go into 
the actual preference pane. I'm playing around with mouse and VO cursors now to 
see which way I prefer to navigate.

Thanks,
Teresa

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On Mar 25, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Nope.  Works fine for me.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
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> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Every time I try to adjust the screensaver preferences in System 
>> Preferences, VO just says busy and I can't access this pane at all. Does 
>> anyone else experience this issue?
>> 
>> Teresa
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Terminal Commands For Hiding and Showing Files?

2012-03-26 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I don't remember how I enabled this, but all my hidden files are showing in 
Finder. I'd like to hide them again, with the exception of the root and user 
libraries. How can I do this, either with Finder or in Terminal? I'm only a 
beginning Terminal user, so be gentle, please. :)

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Buffering

2012-03-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
You might try downloading again. It's called ClickToFlash.

HTH,
Teresa
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> Hi Teresa,
> 
> Thank you for your message.
> I did enable HTML5 like you had suggested, and it works wonderfully well.
> I also tried to download the extension which converts flash content to HTML5, 
> but, when I tried to install it, it said that Safari can't download this 
> extension because there was an error.
> So, can I do anything to fix this problem?
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Correction, Was Re: Buffering

2012-03-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Rahul,

I meant ClickToPlugin. ClickToFlash is the older extension, and may not work 
well at this point. Sorry about that.

Teresa

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On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> You might try downloading again. It's called ClickToFlash.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
> 
>> Hi Teresa,
>> 
>> Thank you for your message.
>> I did enable HTML5 like you had suggested, and it works wonderfully well.
>> I also tried to download the extension which converts flash content to 
>> HTML5, but, when I tried to install it, it said that Safari can't download 
>> this extension because there was an error.
>> So, can I do anything to fix this problem?
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Re: AppleWorks Conversion to something more modern?

2012-03-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Mike,

I found some information which indicates that cwk 6.0 or highter can be opened 
via IWorks.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Mar 28, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Mike Busboom wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I recently received some files on a USB Stick that contained several files 
> with a CWK extension.  When I tried to open one of them, I was told that I 
> was attempting to open an AppleWorks file.  
> 
> When I spoke with the person who gave me the USB stick, she said that the 
> files had been created on an old Apple computer quite some time ago.  Does 
> anyone know how I might be able to assist this person and convert the files 
> to something that is usable on a modern Mac?  Is there a free, or not too 
> expensive utility out there that would accomplish this task for us?
> 
> Kindest regards to all and thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
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Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
The only problem I've had on the Mac specifically is that my display goes to 
sleep for about ten minutes when I first plug it in via USB and does the same 
when I restart VO in USB mode. I stumped three levels of Apple help folks with 
this one, including someone purported to be an engineer, so I'm guessing 
there's a good possibility of it being a bug. I'd suggest using the Bluetooth 
and plugging the AC cord in.

Have fun. This display is really a joy to use. I use it with IBooks and text 
files all the time.

HTh,
Teresa

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On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
> lists.
> 
> I am delighted to inform you that I am now the proud owner of a
> brand-spanking new Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue Braille display.  I will
> go pick it up from the post office sometime within the next 4 hours. 
> 
> If memory serves, and many times it does not (smile), I recall reading here
> that there are some nuances regarding the Focus-40 of which a new user
> should be aware.  
> 
> So, I would greatly appreciate any advice on how I can get my new display up
> and running so I can, once again, enjoy the privilege of exploring my
> iPhone, Mac, and online world via a refreshable Braille display.  
> 
> Thank you all In Advance,
> 
> Mark 
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Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Jenny,

Which layout for your mail are you using? The short answer to this is that you 
will need to get to your message headers and interact with them. Find the email 
address from which the email originates and copy it. I most often use 
VO-shift-c to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:

> I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to everyone 
> no matter what command I use. Help.
> 
> 
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all.
>> I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I 
>> ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to 
>> hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 
>> running iOS 5.1.
>> Thanks!
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Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Here's something that makes things a little easier. In Lion, I went into the 
headers and found the email address. Then I brought up the contextual menu with 
VO-shift-m. In that menu is an item: "Reply to sender". This is a bit shorter 
than copying and pasting.

HtH,
Teresa

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On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:

> What a pain. It's hard for me to do that. is there any way to copy and paste 
> the addresses?
> 
> 
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
> 
>> If you are replying to someone on the list then that is where your message 
>> will go. In order to reply directly to someone you will need to put their 
>> address in the "To:" field.
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to everyone 
>>> no matter what command I use. Help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I 
 ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to 
 hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 
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Possible Script?, Was Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
> I was just thinking: would this be a good task for an apple script? I am just 
> beginning to learn scripting. I'm thinking of at least recording the 
> keystrokes used for this process.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Here's something that makes things a little easier. In Lion, I went into the 
>> headers and found the email address. Then I brought up the contextual menu 
>> with VO-shift-m. In that menu is an item: "Reply to sender". This is a bit 
>> shorter than copying and pasting.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> What a pain. It's hard for me to do that. is there any way to copy and 
>>> paste the addresses?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If you are replying to someone on the list then that is where your message 
>>>> will go. In order to reply directly to someone you will need to put their 
>>>> address in the "To:" field.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to 
>>>>> everyone no matter what command I use. Help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>> I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I 
>>>>>> ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to 
>>>>>> hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 
>>>>>> running iOS 5.1.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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Possible script?, Was Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
I was just thinking: would this be a good task for an apple script? I am just 
beginning to learn scripting. I'm thinking of at least recording the keystrokes 
used for this process.

Teresa

"We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos

On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Here's something that makes things a little easier. In Lion, I went into the 
> headers and found the email address. Then I brought up the contextual menu 
> with VO-shift-m. In that menu is an item: "Reply to sender". This is a bit 
> shorter than copying and pasting.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
> 
>> What a pain. It's hard for me to do that. is there any way to copy and paste 
>> the addresses?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are replying to someone on the list then that is where your message 
>>> will go. In order to reply directly to someone you will need to put their 
>>> address in the "To:" field.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to 
>>>> everyone no matter what command I use. Help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>> I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I 
>>>>> ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to 
>>>>> hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 
>>>>> running iOS 5.1.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>>> 
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Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Can you please post it here? I am going to take a gander that this is 
definitely on topic, since it relates to using Braille with Lion. It hadn't 
occurred to me to do this. (slapping my forehead several times) LOL

Thanks,
Teresa

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> Hello Scott,
> I have a focus 40 blue running firmware version 4.53. How do I go about
> updating the firmware to the latest version?
> Thank you,
> Kolby
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Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
I've attempted to do a google search and also search the FS website and the 
Focus 40 Blue manual. I've found no instructions for updating firmware. I  have 
had this problem for over a year, and I'm reasonably sure others have, too. I 
think it would be great to post the instructions for firmware updating here, or 
perhaps a pointer for getting them.

Thanks,
Teresa

On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Can you please post it here? I am going to take a gander that this is 
> definitely on topic, since it relates to using Braille with Lion. It hadn't 
> occurred to me to do this. (slapping my forehead several times) LOL
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Kolby wrote:
> 
>> Hello Scott,
>> I have a focus 40 blue running firmware version 4.53. How do I go about
>> updating the firmware to the latest version?
>> Thank you,
>> Kolby
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Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thank you so very much. Much appreciated!

Teresa

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Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Unfortunately, a username and password is required to access the files.

Teresa

"On the other hand, there are different fingers."

On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:39 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Thank you, Scott.
>  
> Mark
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57
>  
> Downloadable Focus 40 Blue Update
>  
> This firmware update for the Focus 40 Blue addresses an issue which arose 
> after a recent release of Apple’s OSX operating system that affects Braille 
> output
> from an Apple computer over USB.
>  
> How to Download and Install the Update
>  
> Note: Windows is required to update the firmware. The updater will not work 
> on Mac.
>  
> 1. Download the FS Braille Display Firmware Update application to a Microsoft 
> Windows computer using the following link:
>  
> ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/Focus40Blue/FS-Braille-Display-Firmware-Update-457.exe
>  
> 2. When the File Download dialog box opens, choose Save. When the Save As 
> dialog box opens, save the FS Braille Display Firmware Update 457.exe file on
> the Desktop, which is the Windows default.
>  
> 3. Launch the firmware updater application FS Braille Display Firmware Update 
> 457.exe to update the firmware in your display to version 4.57.
>  
> 4. A dialog box opens displaying the current firmware version of the Focus 40 
> Blue. Choose Update Firmware to proceed with the firmware update, or choose
> Exit to close the application without performing the update.
>  
> 5. After choosing the Update Firmware button, the application will warn you 
> to not unplug the Braille display during the update. When you are ready, 
> choose
> Start Download to begin updating the firmware. You will receive the message 
> “Download Done” when the update is complete.
>  
> 6. If you are using JAWS or another screen reader, close and restart the 
> software before using your Focus 40 Blue.
>  
> Note: If a failure occurs during the update process, do not disconnect the 
> display from the computer. Close the updater application, then relaunch it and
> start the update again.
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Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
How are frames read in Chrome now? There used to be a big problem with that.

Teresa
"On the other hand, there are different fingers."

On Mar 30, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> The thing that I find annoying in chrome is, you can't jump to links found in 
> tables.  You have to actually navigate with VO plus arrow keys to get to 
> these links.  On certain sites, I've noticed chunks of text are just missing 
> as well.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a heads up to let you know that chrome 18 is out, and if you have 17 
>>> installed, it will automatically update without asking.
>>> 
>>> A few notes on this new release:
>>> 
>>> 1-now entering a text field is much more obvious, as voice over announces 
>>> with that clickety sound.
>>> 2-the tabs work in a much more fluid way, and as opposed to safari, one 
>>> doesn't need to first press on the tab then vo right then interact with the 
>>> html content. Pressing on the tab puts you in the page right away, which i 
>>> thought was a cool time saver.
>>> 3- speed performances are felt, and it's a real pleasure to browse the web.
>>> 
>>> This one i'm keeping as my default browser for now. If apple's team could 
>>> fix that safari busy issue, i might reconsider but for now, chrome hands 
>>> down.
>>> 
>>> Yuma
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Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hello, Les,

try this; http://www.google.com/chrome

HTH,
Teresa

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On Mar 30, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:

> I went looking for Google Chrome and also searched for Chrome in the App 
> Store and could not find it.  How does one obtain the Chrome browser?  Thanks.
> 
> Les
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Just a heads up to let you know that chrome 18 is out, and if you have 17 
>> installed, it will automatically update without asking.
>> 
>> A few notes on this new release:
>> 
>> 1-now entering a text field is much more obvious, as voice over announces 
>> with that clickety sound.
>> 2-the tabs work in a much more fluid way, and as opposed to safari, one 
>> doesn't need to first press on the tab then vo right then interact with the 
>> html content. Pressing on the tab puts you in the page right away, which i 
>> thought was a cool time saver.
>> 3- speed performances are felt, and it's a real pleasure to browse the web.
>> 
>> This one i'm keeping as my default browser for now. If apple's team could 
>> fix that safari busy issue, i might reconsider but for now, chrome hands 
>> down.
>> 
>> Yuma
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Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
It might be necessary for folks to contact FS tech support individually. I just 
did this.

Teresa

"On the other hand, there are different fingers."

On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Unfortunately, a username and password is required to access the files.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:39 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Scott.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:38 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57
>> 
>> Downloadable Focus 40 Blue Update
>> 
>> This firmware update for the Focus 40 Blue addresses an issue which arose 
>> after a recent release of Apple’s OSX operating system that affects Braille 
>> output
>> from an Apple computer over USB.
>> 
>> How to Download and Install the Update
>> 
>> Note: Windows is required to update the firmware. The updater will not work 
>> on Mac.
>> 
>> 1. Download the FS Braille Display Firmware Update application to a 
>> Microsoft Windows computer using the following link:
>> 
>> ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/Focus40Blue/FS-Braille-Display-Firmware-Update-457.exe
>> 
>> 2. When the File Download dialog box opens, choose Save. When the Save As 
>> dialog box opens, save the FS Braille Display Firmware Update 457.exe file on
>> the Desktop, which is the Windows default.
>> 
>> 3. Launch the firmware updater application FS Braille Display Firmware 
>> Update 457.exe to update the firmware in your display to version 4.57.
>> 
>> 4. A dialog box opens displaying the current firmware version of the Focus 
>> 40 Blue. Choose Update Firmware to proceed with the firmware update, or 
>> choose
>> Exit to close the application without performing the update.
>> 
>> 5. After choosing the Update Firmware button, the application will warn you 
>> to not unplug the Braille display during the update. When you are ready, 
>> choose
>> Start Download to begin updating the firmware. You will receive the message 
>> “Download Done” when the update is complete.
>> 
>> 6. If you are using JAWS or another screen reader, close and restart the 
>> software before using your Focus 40 Blue.
>> 
>> Note: If a failure occurs during the update process, do not disconnect the 
>> display from the computer. Close the updater application, then relaunch it 
>> and
>> start the update again.
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Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Ioana,

In Mail Preferences, go to the View tab and press VO-space. Navigate to the 
checkbox: "Mark all messages as read when opening a conversation." This is 
assuming you have your messages grouped into conversations.

HTH,
Teresa

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> Hello,
> 
> I have turned message preview to none in view preferences. However, wen I vo 
> through the list of messages if they are not part of a conversation, the 
> messages are marked as read. Can I avoid this? It makes sifting through mail 
> confusing since often I am looking for urea messages and some show up as read 
> although I just past them with vo
> 
> THanks for your help,
> 
> Ioana 
> 
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> stores.
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Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Jennifer,

In the message area, VO-left-arrow once and you should hear "message headers 
group". Interact with this, and it will behave as any other text area. From 
here, you can find the message header and then press VO-shift-m to bring up the 
contextual menu. From it, choose "reply to sender" and a new message to the 
original sender will open. You can tab and shift-tab to the "to" field to 
verify this.

HtH,
Teresa

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On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just got my Mac going again and am still very new to it.  I'm not sure how to 
> get to the headers field and finding what you said to find.  
> 
> I don't even know how to get to the To:  field of the message.  To navigate 
> messages, I simply see the list and then use VO J to get to the message.  
> 
> I could still use some help.
> 
> Thanks so much for your patience.
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> HI there,
>> 
>> I tried to follow your instructions about deleting the list address from the 
>> to field but I only have that one appearing so if deleted I am left with 
>> nothing. Still the best way for me is to go to headers field and find the 
>> from field and from the shortcut menu select reply to sender.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
>> stores.
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:25 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Jenny,
>>> 
>>> There is no special trick to replying to only one person on a list.
>>> 
>>> Please keep in mind that how this will be done will depend greatly upon how
>>> the Mailing List is configured said configuration being done by the Mailing
>>> List owner.
>>> 
>>> In the case of the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries list, for example, both the
>>> Mailing List and the individual poster's email addresses are shown in the
>>> Header.  This is a very good thing, in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> So, when replying, simply jump to the "To" field and delete the Mailing List
>>> Address leaving only the individual poster's list.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mail to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Perdue Keller
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:57 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac
>>> 
>>> I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to everyone
>>> no matter what command I use. Help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:06 PM, chris hallsworth 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I
>>> ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to
>>> hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4
>>> running iOS 5.1.
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Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Sorry; I wasn't clear. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.

Teresa
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On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> HI Teresa, 
> 
> I am afraid I don't get it. What you say would mark all messages read as I 
> open a conversation. This would not solve my problem rather make it worse. 
> When I do this every message or conversation is marked read as I vo through 
> the list.
> Maybe I was not clear in detailing my problem. I will try to explain again my 
> issue:
> In message column I use vo left and right to navigate the list and as I do 
> this messages are marked as read, although I did not tab to the preview colin 
> or open them in any way. I would like to avoid this and keep them marked as 
> unread. Can this be done?
> Thanks and sorry for the confusion.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ioana
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ioana,
>> 
>> In Mail Preferences, go to the View tab and press VO-space. Navigate to the 
>> checkbox: "Mark all messages as read when opening a conversation." This is 
>> assuming you have your messages grouped into conversations.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have turned message preview to none in view preferences. However, wen I 
>>> vo through the list of messages if they are not part of a conversation, the 
>>> messages are marked as read. Can I avoid this? It makes sifting through 
>>> mail confusing since often I am looking for urea messages and some show up 
>>> as read although I just past them with vo
>>> 
>>> THanks for your help,
>>> 
>>> Ioana 
>>> 
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
>>> stores.
>>> 
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Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Jennifer,

Do not reply to a message, just jump to the message content of the one you want 
to reply to. Once you use VO-J, VO will say "interact with message text." When 
you use VO-J, VO automatically interacts, so you will have to go to a different 
part of the message. Stop interacting with the message text by using 
VO-shift-up-arrow.  Once you've stopped interacting, press VO-left-arrow and 
you will hear "message headers group".. " This is not to be confused with the 
"customize message headers." Once you hear, message headers group and interact 
with it, you will find a text area just like any other text area. Use 
VO-down-arrow to navigate to the "from" line of the headers. Once you are on 
it, press VO-shift-m. In the menu that comes up, find "reply to sender". Press 
enter on it, and a reply will come up with the original sender's address in the 
"to" field.

Basically, what you are doing is choosing "reply to sender" instead of pressing 
command-r.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Mar 31, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I got to the customize header menu but when I try to find the reply to sender 
> after VO M I just can't get to it.
> 
> I guess I'll just keep doing things the way I have been and reply to 
> everybody.
> 
> thanks for your help.
> 
> 
>   On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Ioana 
> Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can't verify this cause am on the iphone now but here are the steps:
>> 1. Interact with message content, not with texxt of message.
>> 2. vo to find headers.
>> 3. interact with headers.
>> 4. in this texxt find the from address and place vo on it.
>> 5. Here you can invoke vo shift m. If you are not on the from address the 
>> reply to sender will not work I think.
>> 
>> hth,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
>> stores.
>> Sent from my phone
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> OK, I have tried to do this several times and still can't figure this out.  
>>> 
>>> Here's what I don't understand though.  If you use command R it should only 
>>> reply to the person that you got the message from I thought but that's not 
>>> the case.  
>>> 
>>> When I try to VO left arrow from the message it won't do anything unless I 
>>> stop interacting with the message and then it will but I can't get it to 
>>> say anything about replying to sender.  What am I missing?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Jennifer,
>>>> 
>>>> In the message area, VO-left-arrow once and you should hear "message 
>>>> headers group". Interact with this, and it will behave as any other text 
>>>> area. From here, you can find the message header and then press VO-shift-m 
>>>> to bring up the contextual menu. From it, choose "reply to sender" and a 
>>>> new message to the original sender will open. You can tab and shift-tab to 
>>>> the "to" field to verify this.
>>>> 
>>>> HtH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "Visualize whirled peas."
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just got my Mac going again and am still very new to it.  I'm not sure 
>>>>> how to get to the headers field and finding what you said to find.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't even know how to get to the To:  field of the message.  To 
>>>>> navigate messages, I simply see the list and then use VO J to get to the 
>>>>> message.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I could still use some help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much for your patience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI there,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried to follow your instructions about deleting the list address from 
>>>>>> the to field but I only have that one appearing so if deleted I am left 
>>>>>> wi

Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'm very puzzled as to why the firmware isn't publicly available, or at least 
available to Focus 40 Blue owners. I contacted tech support and got an 
honest-to-goodness Dropbox link. I was astounded. I then sent a polite but 
direct question about the matter as a reply to that message.  Unfortunately, I 
sent it late Friday, so we may or may not find out Monday what the answer is.

In any case, updating definitely fixed the issues for me. I had to download the 
drivers to my husband's computer, since I no longer use JAWS, but once I did 
that, everything was fine. Thank you for the pointers and instructions, scott.

Teresa

"Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein

On Mar 31, 2012, at 7:47 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> What I find interesting is that I had problems with my display last summer 
> and they had me send the display in for repair.  They replaced the display 
> and the new display had the version of firmware you are talking about 
> installed.  That was last September.  So, who knows how long this version of 
> the firmware has actually been around.
>  
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Brent Harding
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57
> 
> I bet how this goes down is that if you called tech support and complained of 
> this issue, they would tell you to go apply this to see if it fixes whatever 
> issue may be a bug in the device. It's probably kind of like PC Bios updates, 
> one never really applies them until someone says they fix the exact issue you 
> have.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Scott Erichsen
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:05 PM
> Subject: RE: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57
> 
> Hi Kolby,
> Generally not. I assume Freedom would let people know.
> The company I used to work for sold FS products, so I kept the information 
> for my own display and figured I’d pass it on to others.
> If it doesn’t work, contact me privately and I’ll send you the file.
>  
> Cheers.
>  
> Scott
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kolby
> Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2012 7:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57
>  
> Thank you Scott for the link to the firmware update. Is there a way that 
> focus 40 blue users can be made aware when new firmware is released?
> Kolby
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Re: HTML5

2012-04-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Shawn,

If a page is written with HTML5 elements, it should work natively, since it's 
simply a new version of HTML.

However, if you want to convert flash and other media to HTML5, you can 
download the extension for safari called ClickToPlugin. You can go to the 
preferences area of safari, extensions tab, then get extensions, then search 
for it. You can check out this page also: 
http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/ I wouldn't recommend 
the older plugin, ClickToFlash, if you're using Lion.

Also in Youtube's settings on the site, you can enable HtML5 by default.

HTh,
Teresa

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On Apr 1, 2012, at 4:51 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

> Hey guys. I was wondering if you guys know of any HTML5 plugins for Safari on 
> the Mac. Also, how do I install them and enable them? I got an extension 
> called Youtube 5 but I can't seem to find the location to move the thing to. 
> It's in my downloads folder. Thanks for the help.
> 
> Shawn
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Re: A Thank YOu, An Update, and a Question

2012-04-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Mark,

I'm very happy that the Braille display has worked out for you. I have 
completely stopped using my Braille notetaker as a result of having this 
display with my IPOD. I never thought that would happen.

I'm very glad to help where I can, so don't hesitate to ask any questions.

Enjoy!

Teresa
On Apr 1, 2012, at 5:03 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I am cross posting this to both the V iPhone mailing list and the Mac
> Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> I am finally getting the hang of this new Braille display and I must say
> that I love it
> 
> It is as if an entire new world has been added to the already marvelous one.
> 
> 
> Thanks to your support, I can now read iBooks conveniently on my iPhone 4 S.
> 
> 
> I am a little surprised that there is not continuous Braille reading that
> would eliminate the need to engage the page chooser button such as that
> which can be engaged via the say all command but ...
> 
> I'm assuming someone has made this request of Apple by now.  It just seems
> to me logical that one should be able to just keep using the down/next line
> hardware key on the display to keep reading, allowing the page to change
> automatically such as it does when one is using the voice.  Oh well.  
> 
> As for reading the NIV of the Bible on my iPhone, I am happy to report that,
> for whatever reason, it now works.  I did not have to download a second app.
> 
> I just spent the last 3 hours reading the various versions of my favorite
> parts and the joy that fills my heart is almost overwhelming.  
> 
> The thought of being able to attend church or a prayer meeting with nothing
> but my iPhone and my Braille display giving me the ability to share in the
> activities on an equal basis is a lifelong dream that has finally come true.
> 
> 
> To those of you using a Mac, can you recommend a good Bible app that I can
> purchase?  As you may have surmised, the NIV is my preferred version but I
> will be happy for any info you provide.  Perhaps there is an application
> that will allow one to view different versions of the Bible as there is on
> the iOS platform.
> 
> Finally, while I am certain I will have a few more questions along the way,
> I just wanted to express my gratitude for your patience in getting me up and
> running with this dazzling new device.
> 
> Most Sincerely,
> 
> Mark
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Re: What is the difference between the reminder and the calendar on the new update on the IOS 5.1

2012-04-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
The reminder app is more for "to-do" sorts of tasks. The calendar is more for 
specific events at specific dates and times. There's kind of a crossover, as I 
use one or the other sometimes, depending on the task or event.

Teresa

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On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> I just updated my 3gs to IOS 5.1 and found the reminder app on the phone.  
> What is the difference between that and the calendar and what is the easiest 
> way to use that app as I found it difficult to use.
> 
> Thanks for all your help.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> I use to have a braille connect 12 but it was hard on my hands. I heard 
>> about your recent set up as a friend of yours and mine told me!
>> 
>> On 1 Apr 2012, at 01:56 AM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kawal. I also have a Eurobraille Esys but with 12 cells. It's  really 
>>> good, but mine has been a bit unreliable and I've had to send it back 3 
>>> times for updating firmware and repairs.
>>> Also the note-taking functions are very basic and the diary crashes every 
>>> so often, so I have to keep resetting it. My favorite setup at the moment 
>>> is the I-phone with a Braille connect 12 and Rites Keyboard stuck over the 
>>> top of the connect 12 with velcro. It's a really compact setup with qwerty 
>>> input and braille output. The other good thing about the Braille connect is 
>>> that it has a standby mode and wakes up whenever the iPhone comes on so you 
>>> can see the caller id even when the speech is turned off. They used to do a 
>>> 24 cell version of the Braille connect too, but Human-ware never sold any 
>>> in this country (UK), which is a real shame in my opinion.
>>> Cheers
>>> Thuy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 31 Mar 2012, at 21:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Thuy.
 
 I know what the product is now and have cancelled the order. I already 
 have a Euro braille 40 and may be one day I want a 24 cell (in my dreams)!
 
 Thanks for replying.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 31 Mar 2012, at 02:27 PM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
 
> Hi  Kawal. Isn't this Braille input only? I have the Braille pen 12, 
> which has the display and Braille keyboard, but that's just under 1K. It 
> has really nice Braille dots and good keyboard, but no cursor routing, 
> which makes it a bit of a pain editing texts  and activating apps. Also, 
> the command to wake it up is space with K, which overrides  the keyboard 
> help command. Hope this helps?
> Cheers
> Thuy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 30 Mar 2012, at 16:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I have just purchased the Slim Braille Pen, priced at £295 the cheapest 
>> refreshable braille I have seen so far although I do have a Euro braille 
>> 40 which I use as well.
>> 
>> Just wish to know if anyone has used this  either their mac or I phone?
>> 
>> All experiences are welcome.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-04-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Marc,

As long as you're willing to jump right in, and not make many screen-reader 
comparisons between Mac and windows, and you enjoy learning new ways of doing 
things, then just dive right in. This is what I did, and I haven't regretted 
it. I got my Mac Mini about two years ago, and I was like a little kid with a 
new toy. Also, there is always this list if you get stuck.

Take care,
Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote:

> I just wanted to thank all for the info they've given me so far, it's
> much appreciated! I kind of disappeared, I know, due to a busy
> weekend. I will be picking people's brains over the next little while
> so please have patience with me too! Really appreciate the info about
> fb, gmail and twitter btw. :)
> 
> I feel like I did before getting the iPhone, I was on the fence until
> I finally took the plunge... then was petrified for the first few days
> I was using it. After about a week or two though, I started learning
> things and taught myself... now I can't imagine not having one. It
> sounds like the same can be said regarding Macs?
> 
> My biggest erm... hang-ups I guess... are that I run a wifi network
> from my current PC that my parents feed off of with a network cable
> through a router. I am totally clueless as to whether or not a PC/Mac
> network is possible and what it takes to do that, if so. I also have
> my programs that I use with Windows... I'm set in my ways... with mp3
> players, mp3 volume amplifiers (I hate using soundcheck for CD volume
> normalization) sound editors to create ringtones, etc. I'm just very
> fearful that there will be something I take for granted now that won't
> be available after switching over and by then it'll be too late, you
> know?
> 
> Thus the education... all answers so far have been quite helpful
> though so keep 'em coming and thanks! :)
> 
> -Marc
> 
> 
> On 4/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>> Hi I'm Jenny,
>> 
>> I found it hard to make the switch at first, but with the people on this
>> list and some patience I wouldn't go back to windows if you paid me.  My
>> husband has a PC and I use it begrudgingly if I have to since that's where
>> all our music is.  I don't yet have an external drive for my Mac and can't
>> afford one right now.
>> 
>> Please don't hesitate to ask questions of this list.  No question is stupid
>> or anything like that.  Again, Just be patient.
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Beefcakes wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey welcome! Go for the Mac! You'll never regret it. Johnny
>>> 
>>> Cakes
>>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hey all,
 
 I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post
 to MacVisionaries... be gentle.
 
 In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing
 an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm
 thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan
 on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an
 Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least
 entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the
 assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five
 years for those with accessibility needs.
 
 They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up
 this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this.
 
 With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask
 on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was.
 They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list.
 On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would
 probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer
 because of other questions.
 
 So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for
 such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all
 the time so I don't want to be repetitive either.
 
 Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning
 about the wonderful world of Mac! :)
 
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Re: Braille displays

2012-04-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't 
use my Braille Lite 40.

I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is 
the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US.

Teresa

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On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for 
> sure supports all of the modern ones.  Except that they are footdragging on 
> the brialliant BI displays.  Most of the ones they're missing are legacy 
> serial and parallel devices.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think 
>> that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think 
>> $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your 
>> braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I 
>> have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted 
>> one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an 
>> iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be 
>> even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less 
>> than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to 
>> afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. 
>> I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that 
>> it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the 
>> display around.
>> 
>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when 
>> I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were 
>> ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other 
>> screen readers could say that their program could support that many 
>> displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me 
>> about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Eugenia Firth
>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>> 
>>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there 
>>> are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable 
>>> price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad 
>>> price even though it only has 12 cells.  The new 16 cell display and basic 
>>> notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too.  And, the 
>>> Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells 
>>> for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display.
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many 
>>> people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more 
>>> people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one.  But, at $5,000 
>>> for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without 
>>> help from somewhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "James Mannion" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi Mark,
 I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I
 were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in
 my understanding that the price of braille displays are just
 rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then
 some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be
 able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best
 I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my
 near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to
 be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up
 in frustration.
 
 On 4/2/12, David Tanner  wrote:
> And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Gatteys" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
> 
> 
> Hi all!
> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac?  I just downloaded 
> a
> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago.  It worked with
> my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a 
> document.
> I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for 
> basic
> stuff

Re: Braille displays

2012-04-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oh, by the way, I don't find the focus 40 Blue cumbersome at all to carry 
around. It's actually lighter than my Braille Lite 40.

Teresa

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On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think 
> that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think 
> $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your 
> braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I 
> have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted 
> one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an 
> iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be 
> even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less 
> than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford 
> the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have 
> found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does 
> add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display 
> around.
> 
> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when 
> I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were 
> ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other 
> screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. 
> There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, 
> but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi
> 
> 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote:
> 
>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are 
>> some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For 
>> example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even 
>> though it only has 12 cells.  The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker 
>> from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too.  And, the Refresh A 
>> Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 
>> is a good deal, and a very well made display.
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many 
>> people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people 
>> may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one.  But, at $5,000 for a 40 
>> cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from 
>> somewhere.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "James Mannion" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I
>>> were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in
>>> my understanding that the price of braille displays are just
>>> rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then
>>> some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be
>>> able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best
>>> I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my
>>> near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to
>>> be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up
>>> in frustration.
>>> 
>>> On 4/2/12, David Tanner  wrote:
 And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jim Gatteys" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM
 Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
 
 
 Hi all!
 Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac?  I just downloaded a
 trial version and it was much better than a few years ago.  It worked with
 my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document.
 I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for 
 basic
 stuff it seemed fine.  I am seriously considering a purchase of fine 
 reader.
 Jim
 
 On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote:
 
> It is alive and well...  Do you have version 12 patch 4?  That is the
> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera
> in that patch upgrade.
> 
> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good.  There is
> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think
> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not
> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of
> 
> Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it
> worth it for them to do that.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM
> Su

Re: Braille displays

2012-04-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a 
ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a 
tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered 
computer with the coal hopper? (grins)

Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 
40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight.

Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having 
> something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 
> it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there 
> are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration.
> 
> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a 
>> Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille 
>> display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my 
>> iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am 
>> thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far 
>> as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this 
>> purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has 
>> a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, 
>> portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks.
>> (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.)
>> 
>> Christine
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I 
>>> couldn't use my Braille Lite 40.
>>> 
>>> I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue 
>>> is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple 
>>>> for sure supports all of the modern ones.  Except that they are 
>>>> footdragging on the brialliant BI displays.  Most of the ones they're 
>>>> missing are legacy serial and parallel devices.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think 
>>>>> that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think 
>>>>> $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your 
>>>>> braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. 
>>>>> I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I 
>>>>> wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn 
>>>>> music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the 
>>>>> ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if 
>>>>> the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or 
>>>>> be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your 
>>>>> iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with 
>>>>> my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your 
>>>>> MacBookPro to carry the display around.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, 
>>>>> when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. 
>>>>> There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of 
>>>>> the other screen readers could say that their program could support that 
>>>>> many displays. There&#

Re: Braille displays

2012-04-05 Thread Teresa Cochran
You can use Safari to read Braille files, although they're displayed in 
eight-dot Braille. I've gotten used to the uppercase characters. Filer also 
works for downloading files from NLS Web Braille. It uses webkit as Safari 
does, although it kind of has a tricky learning curve.

Teresa

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On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

> hi guys,
> I didn't ever have the lap top just the old apple 2 e and I just had to cary 
> the perkins from class to class in middle and high school until I went to 
> overbook. Then I had the computer and the braille window, I loved that 
> display even though it was big and the braille lite 40 which I really didn't 
> think was that great. I am really curious how you read BRF files as well, 
> what if you want to read them with braille and VO? What do you use for Mac 
> with Lion.
> 
> Becky and C
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Gigi wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> It made me laugh to hear you guys talking about carrying those braille 
>> displays around, and the laptops. This is because, I used to carry around 
>> and Kappel Apple 2E in a backpack, together with the two disk drives. My dog 
>> and I used it to go zapping down Gaston Avenue carrying a backpack, that is 
>> I carried a backpack. I used to always carry around the tape-based person 
>> braille in a backpack too. We sure have come along way. I'm very glad I 
>> don't have to carry all that around these days.
>> 
>> To make this discussion of mine or related to our topic, I have a question 
>> concerning iOS 5.1 Enbrel's place. What is the best way to read DRF files? I 
>> seem to remember we had a discussion on this before, but I can't find that 
>> discussion. On the Mac, I use TextEdit if I need to read it on the computer. 
>> Then, I have to do a transformation to change all the Brille to lowercase. 
>> For some reason that I don't understand, all the BRF files I get display in 
>> all caps. in. It's no big deal to change it in TextEdit, but I wonder how 
>> that's handled on an iPad?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion  wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working
>>> with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently
>>> working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were.
>>> 
>>> On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>>> Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried 
>>>> a
>>>> ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a
>>>> tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered
>>>> computer with the coal hopper? (grins)
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For
>>>> me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra
>>>> weight.
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having
>>>>> something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at
>>>>> $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I
>>>>> gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth
>>>>> consideration.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a
>>>>>> Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille
>>>>>> display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my
>>>>>> iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I
>>>>>> am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute.
>>>>>> As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and
>>>>>> straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line
>>>>>> about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less
>>>>>> expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate
>>>>>> getting it. Thanks.
>>>>>> (I don't care 

Re: Deleting Someone On Facebook

2012-04-05 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Ezzie,

Go to  the person's profile and find the "more actions" button. Press it, then 
find "unfriend." I just use VO-F to search for these things, since the 
contextual menus seem to pop up all over the page, and it's hard to find them.

HTH,
Teresa

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> 
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Slow Startup, Was Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Teresa Cochran
The slow startup without speech is a separate problem. Someone posted on the 
list that it's a bug, and the results are the same for me whether I checked 
that box or not.

Most of the time I just close everything before logging out.

Teresa

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On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:

> Hi Ann,
> 
> The problem is that regardless of whether the box is checked or not in System 
> Preferences, when you go to shut down or restart under Lion, the Windows 
> checkbox is checked.  I confirmed this behavior after speaking with an Apple 
> rep.  He stated, and it is apparently the case, that one has to uncheck this 
> box every time you shut down or restart Lion.  This might be why I have the 
> problem of VO not talking at system startup without bringing focus to the 
> Finder.
> 
> Les
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Veronica,
>> 
>> Quite a lot has changed from Snow Leopard to Lion. One of the most annoying 
>> is that, by default, windows left open are not closed when you quit an 
>> application. You can change this behaviour in System Preferences. Go to the 
>> General pane and look for the check box labelled Restore windows when 
>> quitting and re-opening apps and uncheck it. A quick way to find this is to 
>> use the Item Chooser (VO-i) and type res to select only phrases containing 
>> that string. Press Return to have VO go to the selected item.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Accessibility of US Public Broadcasting System (PBS) Programs Online?

2012-04-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I've noticed that with ClickToPlugin, there is minimal keyboard access within a 
program on the PBS video site. Once the frame is clicked on, spacebar can be 
used to pause and play, but none of the other navigation keystrokes within 
ClickToPlugin can be used. Has anyone designed a "killer" (a javascript 
element) that can be used for this purpose? I didn't see one in the database on 
the ClickToPlugin site. Barring that, has anyone found a more workable way to 
access these videos?

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: adding stuff to the doc in lion?

2012-04-08 Thread Teresa Cochran
The method Les described is the one used to add an app to the dock. What you're 
doing as going to the applications folder, finding an app, and pressing the 
keystroke to add it to the dock. The dock is like symlinks or shortcuts to the 
apps folder.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Hank Smith wrote:

> write but how do you add the app to the doc?
> eg u have a app that isn't in the doc and u want to add it to the doc
> On 4/8/2012 7:47 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> Hi Hank,
>> 
>> First, bring up your applications list with Command-Shift-A.  start typing 
>> in the name of the desired app.  VO will speak the app's names as you type 
>> them.  Once finding the desired app, type Command-Shift T and VO will inform 
>> you that you've added the app to the dock.  You're done at this point.  Once 
>> on the Dock, brought up with VO-D, you can again start typing in the app 
>> desired and it will be read.  Command-O to open the app.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> how do I add stuff to the doc in lion with vo?
>>> I am asking in behalf for a friend.
>>> thanks
>>> Hank
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Re: something happened with voiceover and navigation

2012-04-09 Thread Teresa Cochran
I've gotten my VO keys locked down by accident sometimes. That problem sounds a 
bit worse, though. I hope it doesn't rear its ugly head again.

Teresa

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On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> it was worse than that. I ended up having to delete the preferences files for 
> voiceover in both my user folder and the main library folder in the system.
> 
> once that was done and a restart performed, things started working more 
> appropriately.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Press the left and right arrow keys at the same time to check.  This toggles 
>> on/off quck nav.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't think so. I also didn't see a key combo for that either.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 is quick nav on?
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
 
> ok,
> something happened last night after going to a page pointed to from my 
> twitter app. it opened safari as normal and then the entire machine 
> locked up for a while. once I was able to get it unlocked, the navigation 
> arrows started acting like the VO keys were being pressed, when clearly 
> they were not. after resetting all preferences in voiceover, this 
> behavior remains and is causing me some frustration.
> 
> this has already caused some navigation problems in finder and definitely 
> in mail (instead of navigating rows in unread mail, it now switches panes 
> and won't revert to the previous behavior). 
> 
> does anyone have any clues as to how I can correct this?
> 
> -eric
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Re: Web shortcut files [was Re: Drag and drop with VO]

2012-04-09 Thread Teresa Cochran
Actually, I only got those dialogs the first time I opened the file. Once you 
ok it once, it doesn't do that anymore. I really like that little trick though. 
Thanks, Esther.

Teresa

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On Apr 9, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Hi Jason and others!
> Jason, the one thing I played with that seemed just a bit fuzzy was when to 
> type the Command-shift-D to get the file on the desktop. I did this after 
> typing command-S. Then I had to navigate back to the text area to type the 
> name. When I hit enter after typing the name, I did not get the dialog asking 
> if I wanted to accept the .url extension. But the shortcut did appear on my 
> desktop. When I opened that shortcut, I got a message from core services 
> about text edit creating the file and then after all of that, I got 
> complaints about the certificate of the web site I put in. If it's this crazy 
> to do, I may just stick with bookmarks.
> Is there a way to copy a url from a page we're visiting to a clipboard and 
> enter it into a text file by pasting?
> 
> Veronica
> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
> Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>   Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Re: Notes Experiment

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Gigi,

I'm glad this works for you. I tried reading a book in Notes and it seemed that 
the file was too big, because my VO kept freezing and starting over, no matter 
how many times I rebooted the IPod. I've basically started reading larger files 
in Safari and Filer.

Take care,
Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Guys. 
> I have been doing some experiments with Notes and braille, specifically brf 
> files. Hey, guys, Apple never intended for it to be used like this, but Notes 
> will swallow a whole brf file such as o you would get from Web Braille. Notes 
> will do  transformation such as making all the text lower case, but it's 
> faster to do that in TextEdit and also to avoid Mail Busy. However, Mail Busy 
> did come out of it on ÿ computer. Also, Notes takes the display of the most 
> irritating outhe control characters, the carriage returns and the line feeds. 
> The spaces and the page breaks are displayed, but they are displayed in such 
> a way that it doesn't interfere with where the goes on the idsplay. In other 
> words, what's supposed to be in cell 40 is. If i had known this sooner, I 
> would have tried it two weeks ago when I was using my Mac to read brf files. 
> 
> Because Web braille files have a margin of cell 38, this reading using this 
> method should better on them. This is because the computer insists on showing 
> a blank line if there is acharacter in cell 40. There won't be a character in 
> cell 40 in a Web braille file. I think the display of control characters is a 
> silent one in notes, and that's why you see a blank line with files that have 
> a 40 cell margin. But for those with cell 38 no what appears to be a blank 
> line should be displayed. 
> 
> I hope all this makes sense. This means yours truly can use an iPad with 
> Notes for my reports because they are much shorter than those brf files. It 
> also means, that, if I wanted to, I could use either a Mac or the iPad to 
> read a brf file with very little conversion. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
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Re: Creating a list of all the headings and links on a webpage

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Rahul,

The closest option is to use VO-i to bring up the item chooser. The toolbar 
buttons and other window controls will also be displayed, however. You can use 
return to go to an item or escape to exit without changes.

HTh,
Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a way of creating a list of all the headings and links on a
> webpage with VoiceOver?
> I use this function with JAWS,  and it makes browsing webpages a lot
> easier and faster.
> So, please shed some light on this matter.
> 
> Regards,
> Rahul
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Re: Creating a list of all the headings and links on a webpage

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Simon; I'd entirely forgotten about VO-U.

Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

> When on a web page, press vo+u and you will be presented with a choice of 
> elements in categories. You can then use your right and left arrow keys to 
> move from category to category, e.g. headings, links, visited links, form 
> controls, tables, regions, etc. Once you find the category you wish, use up 
> and down arrow to read the headings or links within the category and then 
> press enter on the one you want. You will find yourself on the element you 
> want to examine. If you don't want to make any choices, just press escape to 
> get out of the list of categories. Also, remember that item chooser menu 
> which you call up with vo+i, will list all the elements/objects on the page, 
> and if you know what you are after, you can just start typing the first 
> letters of the element/object and you will be on it. Press enter to land on 
> it. Press escape if you don't want to make a choice, press backspace while in 
> item chooser menu to start typing a new string if you have failed to find 
> what you are looking for or if you change your mind and want to look for a 
> different string.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon
> On 10 Apr 2012, at 16:26, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is there a way of creating a list of all the headings and links on a
>> webpage with VoiceOver?
>> I use this function with JAWS,  and it makes browsing webpages a lot
>> easier and faster.
>> So, please shed some light on this matter.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Rahul
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Re: Signatures

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Stacey,

Go into Mail preferences. Find the signatures button and press it. The first 
thing you'll encounter is a table that allows you to choose which mail account 
to use with your signatures. Go on to the names table. Here you'll find a 
default name for a new signature that Mail suggests, such as Signature number 
1. You can backspace that out and type your own name. Then navigate to the 
"contents area" and type in your signature the way you want it. Then you can 
use command-w to close preferences. Just before you get to the body of a new 
message while composing, you'll find a signature popup menu. You can use any of 
the ones you've created, or you can be strange like me and use "random". :)

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi all,
> Can someone give me instructions on how to create a signature with my name on 
> one line and email address on the other?
> I've tried this and just can't make it work.
> Please help.
> Thanks,
> Stacey Robinson
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Re: Signatures

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Stacey,

You can only interact with one table at a time. However, if you have VO set up 
to interact when the tab key is pressed, this makes things much easier. You can 
find that setting in the VO Utility, navigation area.

HTH,
Teresa
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On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Mark,
> Can you interact with more than one table at a time?
> 
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> 
>> Signatures are complicated; remember to interact with all the tables you see 
>> so that you're putting data in the right places, then just create a 
>> signature line by line in the box.  I would offer to help you more, but I"m 
>> bringing my MBP into the shop for deep maintenance, and don't know when 
>> they'll get to it.  Til then ... Peace out yall.
>> 
>> 
>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> • My home page:
>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Audio book recovery

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
If they are from Audible, you can go to the Audible website and choose the 
books again from your library.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Yamil wrote:

> Hey all i download my audio books from itunes. I was sinking my ipod to 
> itunes and too of my audio books disappeared from my mac and ipod. I went to 
> purchased link on my itunes but i only saw a link to video tv shows and 
> music. If anyone can help i appreciate it thanks
> 
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Re: Notes Experiment

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Gigi,

I use Filer on my IPod, and I use textEdit on the Mac for brf files. Notes is 
fine on the Mac, but really struggles for me on the Ipod. It used to be 
possible to read brf files with Safari, but now there doesn't seem to be an 
eight-dot mode on the Mac.

Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Thanks Esther. 
> First, it's amazing to me how stuff you know about this. I'm impressed. I'll 
> save this info for that future iPad. I don't really need it for my iPhone. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gigi,
>> 
>> Teresa is speaking about an iOS app:
>> • Filer ($3.99) by Dan Leehr L.L.C.
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filer/id318884764?mt=8
>> 
>> It's a download app, but also lets you organize and play many formats of 
>> documents and multimedia files within then app, with the benefit of 
>> generally keeping your bookmark location.  Also a handy way to transfer 
>> downloaded files so you can open them in other iOS applications.  Theres a 
>> quite flexible web browser interface, with bookmarklets, too, as well as the 
>> ability to download directly from your Dropbox, etc.
>> 
>> The nice feature is using this for documents reading and keeping your place. 
>>  I don't know how to get around Teresa's question about the behavior of 
>> bookmarking for large files in Braille, though.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Teresa. 
>>> I don't how I can use Safari in my case, since I'm getting the files off 
>>> the internet. However, where do you get this Filer program? Does it come 
>>> from the App store, and how much is it? 
>>> 
>>> Also, in as so far as your Vo messing up when you did a big file, I'm in 
>>> Lion kitty. I don't remember which one you have. In my case, I wasn't 
>>> moving around a lot in the file, and I suppose that might " had something 
>>> to do with more. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> Eugenia Firth
>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Gigi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm glad this works for you. I tried reading a book in Notes and it seemed 
>>>> that the file was too big, because my VO kept freezing and starting over, 
>>>> no matter how many times I rebooted the IPod. I've basically started 
>>>> reading larger files in Safari and Filer.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Guys. 
>>>>> I have been doing some experiments with Notes and braille, specifically 
>>>>> brf files. Hey, guys, Apple never intended for it to be used like this, 
>>>>> but Notes will swallow a whole brf file such as o you would get from Web 
>>>>> Braille. Notes will do  transformation such as making all the text lower 
>>>>> case, but it's faster to do that in TextEdit and also to avoid Mail Busy. 
>>>>> However, Mail Busy did come out of it on ÿ computer. Also, Notes takes 
>>>>> the display of the most irritating outhe control characters, the carriage 
>>>>> returns and the line feeds. The spaces and the page breaks are displayed, 
>>>>> but they are displayed in such a way that it doesn't interfere with where 
>>>>> the goes on the idsplay. In other words, what's supposed to be in cell 40 
>>>>> is. If i had known this sooner, I would have tried it two weeks ago when 
>>>>> I was using my Mac to read brf files. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because Web braille files have a margin of cell 38, this reading using 
>>>>> this method should better on them. This is because the computer insists 
>>>>> on showing a blank line if there is acharacter in cell 40. There won't be 
>>>>> a character in cell 40 in a Web braille file. I think the display of 
>>>>> control characters is a silent one in notes, and that's why you see a 
>>>>> blank line with files that hav

Re: Notes Experiment

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ah, I didn't look in the utility for the 8-dot Braille option. I may have to 
assign a keystroke to it, as I don't notice it by default.

Thanks,
Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Teresa. 
> I have an 8 dot mode on my Mac. That's how I got computer braille to come up 
> so I could read grade 2. Do you not get a choice for 8 dots when you go into 
> the braille option in the vo utility? 
> 
> I use TextEdit too for brf files, but I can't stop TextEdit from showing 
> control characters. This is`  important for me because I'm not reading; I am 
> proofing brf files for pay. Since these characters take up one or two spaces 
> on the display, any word that would normally end either in cell 39 or 40 is 
> pushed over to left side of the display. Most of the time I can figure out 
> what's what, but occasionally I have to get the cursor to the beginning of 
> the line so I `an determine for sure if a transcriber has made an error and 
> the word in the wrong place. I've figured out how to do that, but it would be 
> more efficient If did not have to do that. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Gigi,
>> 
>> I use Filer on my IPod, and I use textEdit on the Mac for brf files. Notes 
>> is fine on the Mac, but really struggles for me on the Ipod. It used to be 
>> possible to read brf files with Safari, but now there doesn't seem to be an 
>> eight-dot mode on the Mac.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Esther. 
>>> First, it's amazing to me how stuff you know about this. I'm impressed. 
>>> I'll save this info for that future iPad. I don't really need it for my 
>>> iPhone. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> Eugenia Firth
>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Gigi,
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa is speaking about an iOS app:
>>>> • Filer ($3.99) by Dan Leehr L.L.C.
>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filer/id318884764?mt=8
>>>> 
>>>> It's a download app, but also lets you organize and play many formats of 
>>>> documents and multimedia files within then app, with the benefit of 
>>>> generally keeping your bookmark location.  Also a handy way to transfer 
>>>> downloaded files so you can open them in other iOS applications.  Theres a 
>>>> quite flexible web browser interface, with bookmarklets, too, as well as 
>>>> the ability to download directly from your Dropbox, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> The nice feature is using this for documents reading and keeping your 
>>>> place.  I don't know how to get around Teresa's question about the 
>>>> behavior of bookmarking for large files in Braille, though.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Teresa. 
>>>>> I don't how I can use Safari in my case, since I'm getting the files off 
>>>>> the internet. However, where do you get this Filer program? Does it come 
>>>>> from the App store, and how much is it? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, in as so far as your Vo messing up when you did a big file, I'm in 
>>>>> Lion kitty. I don't remember which one you have. In my case, I wasn't 
>>>>> moving around a lot in the file, and I suppose that might " had something 
>>>>> to do with more. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>> Gigi 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eugenia Firth
>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Gigi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm glad this works for you. I tried reading a book in Notes and it 
>>>>>> seemed that the file was too big, because my VO kept freezing and 
>>>>>> starting over, no matter how many times I rebooted the IPod. I've

Anyone Had Any Luck Using ZTerm in Lion With Notetakers?

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I used to use ZTerm to put brf books from WebBraille onto my Braille Lite. I've 
tried updating my serial-to-USB drivers and making sure I have the latest 
version of ZTerm. I get no communication with Zterm and my Braille Lite 40. The 
notetaker works fine with Windows computers.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Teresa


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Resolved, was Re: Anyone Had Any Luck Using ZTerm in Lion With Notetakers?

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ok, I'm going to post this in case I or anyone else looks it up on the list. I 
went into the settings menu in ZTerm and looked up Modem settings. Sure enough, 
it was set on Bluetooth. My decrepit Braille Lite knows not a glimmer about 
Bluetooth, so I reset it to my serial-to-USB adapter driver and everything 
works without a hitch.

Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> I used to use ZTerm to put brf books from WebBraille onto my Braille Lite. 
> I've tried updating my serial-to-USB drivers and making sure I have the 
> latest version of ZTerm. I get no communication with Zterm and my Braille 
> Lite 40. The notetaker works fine with Windows computers.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> 
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
> 

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> I used to use ZTerm to put brf books from WebBraille onto my Braille Lite. 
> I've tried updating my serial-to-USB drivers and making sure I have the 
> latest version of ZTerm. I get no communication with Zterm and my Braille 
> Lite 40. The notetaker works fine with Windows computers.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> 
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Re: Anyone Had Any Luck Using ZTerm in Lion With Notetakers?

2012-04-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
The braille Lite isn't supported as a Braille display in OS X. I use an 
application called ZTerm, which communicates to the serial port as a 
file-transfer option. I still like to transfer files back and fort to it. It's 
my old, quaint, legacy, bearskin-and-flint-knife method, and I'm used to it. :) 
But it is a little tricky. Again, doing this does not allow it to function as a 
Braille display. This is why I broke down and bought a Focus 40 Blue eventually.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 2:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Theresa,
> 
> I have no idea of what zTerm is or does but I have never been successful in
> getting my Freedom Scientific BrailleLite Millennium 20 to work on my Mac.
> 
> Mark

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Re: hotmail and Safari

2012-04-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'm kind of confused. Are you referring to Javascript or Java? They are very 
different things, as far as I understand.

Teresa

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On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> well folks.
> 
> it seems that I have run up against this brick wall. so I started 
> troubleshooting why hotmail.com causes my browser to crash.
> according to the error reporting console in webkit, hotmail.com makes several 
> calls to javascripts that aren't included with Apple's JRE. this means that 
> some or all of hotmail may be inaccessible at random times. I even disabled 
> javascript altogether and found that the entire hotmail site displayed as a 
> blank scroll area. What this means is that hotmail isn't going to be very 
> usable for any future versions of javascript on OS X. 
> 
> also, I try to hit the contact us link and the browser immediately crashes 
> here.
> 
> what oracle (owners of sun java) needs to do is enforce some standard that 
> requires that everyone use supported calls to javascripts. I am so bloody 
> tired of having to deal with apple centric JRE, microsoft specific java code 
> and the version that I can get to work in linux (which is a full version).it 
> seems to me that everyone who uses java code needs to be operating on the 
> same standards. this would eliminate a lot of problems, especially for us OS 
> X screen reader users. to give you guys an idea how bad it is, I can't even 
> give site feedback because their javascript opens a frame that locks you in a 
> loop trying to fill out the required text fields.
> 
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Re: A Question for NLS Web Braille Subscribers

2012-04-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Also, be aware that Web Braille is gradually switching over to the NLS Bard 
site in the next couple of months, so there might be a few odd glitches here 
and there. You may want to consider getting a Bard account if you haven't 
already.

Teresa

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On Apr 12, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Robert Hill wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> You need to put a / character at the end of the URL
> http://www.loc.gov/nls/braille/
> 
> That should get you where you want to be.
> Look for the online catalog  link.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2012, at 3:08 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> While I can find my username and password, I cannot, it seems, find the URL
>> in order to search and/or download NLS Web Titles.  
>> 
>> The URL I have is loc.gov/nls/Braille, however, this does not, as it once
>> did about 9 years ago (smile), land me on a page from which I can serch for
>> web Braille titles.  
>> 
>> Yes, it's true, I have not been to the site in about 8 years or so.  
>> 
>> Anyway, I am hoping that someone can give me a current URL for Web Braille
>> titles.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: How To Get Web Braille or Braille Formatted Titles Into iBooks

2012-04-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thank you very much, Mark. it hadn't occurred to me to do this. If I can get 
this to work, it would solve my bookmarking issues for sure.

Teresa

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On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:06 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Listers:
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
> lists.  
> 
> I just published the following to the Candle Shore BLOG:
> 
> How To Get Web Braille or Braille Formatted Titles Into iBooks
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> The following instructions are for those who, like me, want to enjoy their
> Braille formatted titles in iBooks using a refreshable Braille display,
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Re: Previous Recipiants Mail Question

2012-04-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think of the previous recipients list as a sort of holding tank of addresses 
that have been dealt with in mail. You can then take these and put them in your 
address book or delete them. I actually like this feature. When I used to use 
Outlook Express in windows, I was a little annoyed to find every single address 
I'd replied to in my address book. I don't necessarily want every address in 
there.

Teresa

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> You can also create smart groups and put a key word  in the notes field or 
> any field in address book.  If you are consistent address book will create a 
> smart group.
> Jim
> 
> On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> you can create groups in address book. Go to file and then to new group. You 
>> dan select from all contacts the people you want and copy them. 
>> then go to the new group and paste them. 
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Re: turning off screen curtain?

2012-04-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Three-finger triple-tap.

HTH,
Teresa

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Re: Don't Seem To Be Having Much Luck Reading brf-to-Epub in IBooks; Anyone else?

2012-04-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hmmm, I just tried RoboBraille online. It had the info tags correct for title 
and author, but no Braille displayed. I changed the brf file extension to txt, 
since RoboBraille doesn't allow for that as a starting extension. Then I had it 
convert from txt to epub. No dice, as far as displaying Braille in Ibooks is 
concerned.

Teresa

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On Apr 16, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, Mark and all,
> 
> Yes, and it doesn't work either. Interesting. So it's probably not the brf 
> format that's causing the trouble.
> 
> Have you tried any other converters? I can't seem to get the hang of Calibre 
> in command-line. I think I'll try one of the online conversion tools and see 
> how that goes.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Theresa,
>> 
>> I do not use Stanza.
>> 
>> However, have you tried saving a plain text file with a few sentences as an 
>> eBook and test it in iBooks?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> IBooks doesn't like the epub files that I produce, for some reason. Here's 
>>> what I do.
>>> 
>>> I open a brf file in TextEdit, copy all the text, open Stanza, choose "new 
>>> from clipboard" from the file menu, and save it as an Epub document in my 
>>> ITunes Books folder. I then sync it to my IPod. It says "unknown". I 
>>> experimented with changing the info tags so that they show the title and 
>>> author once I enter them in manually.
>>> 
>>> When I open IBooks, it hangs and is unresponsive. the Braille does not 
>>> display at all, and I get a few stuttered words when I turn on speech just 
>>> to experiment. (I'm aware speech can't read the books.)
>>> 
>>> So I'm wondering if I'm missing any steps somewhere.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
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Re: Don't Seem To Be Having Much Luck Reading brf-to-Epub in IBooks; Anyone else?

2012-04-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
oops, wrong list; sorry. this was meant for VIPhone. Apologies!

Teresa
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On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hmmm, I just tried RoboBraille online. It had the info tags correct for title 
> and author, but no Braille displayed. I changed the brf file extension to 
> txt, since RoboBraille doesn't allow for that as a starting extension. Then I 
> had it convert from txt to epub. No dice, as far as displaying Braille in 
> Ibooks is concerned.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
> 
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Mark and all,
>> 
>> Yes, and it doesn't work either. Interesting. So it's probably not the brf 
>> format that's causing the trouble.
>> 
>> Have you tried any other converters? I can't seem to get the hang of Calibre 
>> in command-line. I think I'll try one of the online conversion tools and see 
>> how that goes.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Theresa,
>>> 
>>> I do not use Stanza.
>>> 
>>> However, have you tried saving a plain text file with a few sentences as an 
>>> eBook and test it in iBooks?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> 
>>>> IBooks doesn't like the epub files that I produce, for some reason. Here's 
>>>> what I do.
>>>> 
>>>> I open a brf file in TextEdit, copy all the text, open Stanza, choose "new 
>>>> from clipboard" from the file menu, and save it as an Epub document in my 
>>>> ITunes Books folder. I then sync it to my IPod. It says "unknown". I 
>>>> experimented with changing the info tags so that they show the title and 
>>>> author once I enter them in manually.
>>>> 
>>>> When I open IBooks, it hangs and is unresponsive. the Braille does not 
>>>> display at all, and I get a few stuttered words when I turn on speech just 
>>>> to experiment. (I'm aware speech can't read the books.)
>>>> 
>>>> So I'm wondering if I'm missing any steps somewhere.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
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Re: Selecting files using vo.

2012-04-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Stacey,

Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.

First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't move 
your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar to 
select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished 
selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then 
perform whichever actions you need to on the items.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there an easy way to 
> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
> If so, how do I do this.
> Thank you.
> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

2012-04-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of folks 
use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.

Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Theresa,
> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
> Now, for another harder question.
> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Stacey,
>> 
>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
>> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>> 
>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
>> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar 
>> to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished 
>> selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then 
>> perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is there an easy way to 
>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>>> If so, how do I do this.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

2012-04-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some 
more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
> That's the one I used on windows.
> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
>> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Theresa,
>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
>>> Now, for another harder question.
>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Stacey,
>>>> 
>>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
>>>> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>>>> 
>>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
>>>> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
>>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. 
>>>> Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with 
>>>> VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Is there an easy way to 
>>>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>>>>> If so, how do I do this.
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

2012-04-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ah, ok. Well, in the mobile site, you can navigate by links with VO-command-L. 
On the full site, you can navigate by headings. each newsfeed heading is a 
level 6, so once you get to a newsfeed on heading level 6, you can then either 
press VO-command-h or VO-command-M (for same heading number.

You can also use the VO rotor with VO-U, then find the headings with VO 
right-arrow. Once you reach the headings area, just press down-arrow to go 
through them.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> I have lots of trouble moving from one newsfeed item to the other.
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some 
>> more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
>> particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
>>> That's the one I used on windows.
>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
>>>> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Theresa,
>>>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
>>>>> Now, for another harder question.
>>>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
>>>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Stacey,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow 
>>>>>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you 
>>>>>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
>>>>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing 
>>>>>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on 
>>>>>> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to 
>>>>>> on the items.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
>>>>>> Saga
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to 
>>>>>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>>>>>>> If so, how do I do this.
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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How To Import WebBraille Books Into IBooks

2012-04-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I don't usually cross-post, but this seems like an instance in which it would 
be beneficial.

I'm going to share with you all the way I've successfully imported WebBraille 
books to read in IBooks. There are other methods of reading these on the 
IPhone/IPod, but this method will allow you to keep your place in the book when 
you need to pause reading. I used TextEdit on the Mac to open the file and 
export it to pdf. Check your text-editor's documentation on exporting to pdf if 
you're using another OS or editor.

This method will only work with a braille display, and does *not* work with 
speech.

I haven't tested it on other brf files, but you might give it a try.

1. Open a brf WebBraille file in TextEdit. If you don't like the uppercase 
dot-7 caps appearing for all of the characters, select all the text, go into 
the edit menu, choose "transformations" and change to lower case. At this 
point, you can check the document with the braille display to see if it is 
readable. Use eight-dot Braille, uncontracted.
2. From the file menu in TextEdit, choose "export to pdf". In the save dialog, 
you'll be presented with a filename with a pdf extension. Save the file in a 
place that's easy to find.
3. In Itunes add the file you just saved to your library. It will appear in 
your Books list.
4. Use whichever sync settings you've specified to sync this book to your 
IDevice. I usually do this manually, placing the file in my Ipod/books playlist.
5. Open IBooks and find the file in your IBooks library. Change Braille to 
eight-dot, uncontracted. Use dots 3- and 6-chord at the page chooser to switch 
pages.

Enjoy.

Teresa

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Re: How To Import WebBraille Books Into IBooks

2012-04-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Absolutely, not a problem. :) By the way, I know it's working for me; I've been 
reading a book on my Ipod for the last few hours :)

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Timothy Emmons  wrote:

> Thanks Theresa, i appreciate this, this method is a lot easier than I was 
> going through the steps with so if you don't mind I am going to share this 
> with one of my patrons here at the library. I work with the braille 
> collection here at the Library for the Blind and also handle technology and 
> alternative reading methods and this goes right up there with what I do 
> perfectly. Thanks for the trick and I'll pass this along if you don't mind. 
> I've been using web braille on Itunes but I've been doing it the hard way 
> using a braille translator, a book converter, like Stanza, and all that junk, 
> but this makes it easier. Thanks again and take care. Talk to you soon. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I don't usually cross-post, but this seems like an instance in which it 
>> would be beneficial.
>> 
>> I'm going to share with you all the way I've successfully imported 
>> WebBraille books to read in IBooks. There are other methods of reading these 
>> on the IPhone/IPod, but this method will allow you to keep your place in the 
>> book when you need to pause reading. I used TextEdit on the Mac to open the 
>> file and export it to pdf. Check your text-editor's documentation on 
>> exporting to pdf if you're using another OS or editor.
>> 
>> This method will only work with a braille display, and does *not* work with 
>> speech.
>> 
>> I haven't tested it on other brf files, but you might give it a try.
>> 
>> 1. Open a brf WebBraille file in TextEdit. If you don't like the uppercase 
>> dot-7 caps appearing for all of the characters, select all the text, go into 
>> the edit menu, choose "transformations" and change to lower case. At this 
>> point, you can check the document with the braille display to see if it is 
>> readable. Use eight-dot Braille, uncontracted.
>> 2. From the file menu in TextEdit, choose "export to pdf". In the save 
>> dialog, you'll be presented with a filename with a pdf extension. Save the 
>> file in a place that's easy to find.
>> 3. In Itunes add the file you just saved to your library. It will appear in 
>> your Books list.
>> 4. Use whichever sync settings you've specified to sync this book to your 
>> IDevice. I usually do this manually, placing the file in my Ipod/books 
>> playlist.
>> 5. Open IBooks and find the file in your IBooks library. Change Braille to 
>> eight-dot, uncontracted. Use dots 3- and 6-chord at the page chooser to 
>> switch pages.
>> 
>> Enjoy.
>> 
>> Teresa
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The New Google Groups Site and viewing/changing membership options?

2012-04-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I looked in Google Groups help for this, but it doesn't seem to work. I'm 
trying to find a single page listing all the groups I belong to and the email 
options. The help says to go to the "gear menu" which my sighted husband helped 
me locate. There are no membership options in this menu that we can find. It 
just says "switch to the old groups, report an issue, help". Any ideas?

Thanks,
Teresa

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