I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't 
use my Braille Lite 40.

I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is 
the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US.

Teresa

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On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for 
> sure supports all of the modern ones.  Except that they are footdragging on 
> the brialliant BI displays.  Most of the ones they're missing are legacy 
> serial and parallel devices.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think 
>> that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think 
>> $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your 
>> braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I 
>> have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted 
>> one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an 
>> iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be 
>> even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less 
>> than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to 
>> afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. 
>> I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that 
>> it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the 
>> display around.
>> 
>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when 
>> I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were 
>> ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other 
>> screen readers could say that their program could support that many 
>> displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me 
>> about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Eugenia Firth
>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>> 
>>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there 
>>> are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable 
>>> price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad 
>>> price even though it only has 12 cells.  The new 16 cell display and basic 
>>> notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too.  And, the 
>>> Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells 
>>> for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display.
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many 
>>> people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more 
>>> people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one.  But, at $5,000 
>>> for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without 
>>> help from somewhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mannion" <mannion...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I
>>>> were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in
>>>> my understanding that the price of braille displays are just
>>>> rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then
>>>> some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be
>>>> able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best
>>>> I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my
>>>> near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to
>>>> be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up
>>>> in frustration.
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/2/12, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Gatteys" <jgatt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac?  I just downloaded 
>>>>> a
>>>>> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago.  It worked with
>>>>> my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a 
>>>>> document.
>>>>> I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for 
>>>>> basic
>>>>> stuff it seemed fine.  I am seriously considering a purchase of fine 
>>>>> reader.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is alive and well...  Do you have version 12 patch 4?  That is the
>>>>>> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera
>>>>>> in that patch upgrade.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good.  There is
>>>>>> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think
>>>>>> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not
>>>>>> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it
>>>>>> worth it for them to do that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <br...@hostany.net>
>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old Epson
>>>>>>> Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's true
>>>>>>> that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on the
>>>>>>> scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I don't
>>>>>>> have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I ever 
>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over what I
>>>>>>> have now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also 
>>>>>>>> obtained
>>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both 
>>>>>>>> OpenBook
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the image
>>>>>>>> acquisition experience.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that allows
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it
>>>>>>>> automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I could go on and on but ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am
>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>> if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have put my
>>>>>>>> scanner away for good.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
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