I'm kind of confused. Are you referring to Javascript or Java? They are very 
different things, as far as I understand.

Teresa

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On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> well folks.
> 
> it seems that I have run up against this brick wall. so I started 
> troubleshooting why hotmail.com causes my browser to crash.
> according to the error reporting console in webkit, hotmail.com makes several 
> calls to javascripts that aren't included with Apple's JRE. this means that 
> some or all of hotmail may be inaccessible at random times. I even disabled 
> javascript altogether and found that the entire hotmail site displayed as a 
> blank scroll area. What this means is that hotmail isn't going to be very 
> usable for any future versions of javascript on OS X. 
> 
> also, I try to hit the contact us link and the browser immediately crashes 
> here.
> 
> what oracle (owners of sun java) needs to do is enforce some standard that 
> requires that everyone use supported calls to javascripts. I am so bloody 
> tired of having to deal with apple centric JRE, microsoft specific java code 
> and the version that I can get to work in linux (which is a full version).it 
> seems to me that everyone who uses java code needs to be operating on the 
> same standards. this would eliminate a lot of problems, especially for us OS 
> X screen reader users. to give you guys an idea how bad it is, I can't even 
> give site feedback because their javascript opens a frame that locks you in a 
> loop trying to fill out the required text fields.
> 
> -eric
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