Re: IOS 10 beta

[Ray Foret jr]

Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly 
forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. 
 This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta.  Bear in mind 
that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access 
to it without paying a developer fee:  but, open discussion of findings is 
strictly forbidden.


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> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi List folks,
>  
> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 
> beta release.
>  
> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 
> 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me.
>  
> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating.
>  
> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the 
> touch sensor.
>  
> Cheers for any information.
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Re: A question I'd really like some serious thought to be given to regarding iOS.

[Ray Foret jr]

You mean you had this kind of exchange with Apple Accessibility?  My goodness.  
Maybe we need actual blind people working in that department:  then, we’d get 
some actually accurate information.  While I’m glad you showed him up on his 
ignorance, I’m not glad it took your effort to make it a reality.  Seems to me 
we’ve got a fair bit of work ahead of us.  Was he an American at least?


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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> That's kind of what I had suspected to hear.  I just wanted to check.
>  
> What's worse is, when I spoke to Apple Accessibility over the phone, they 
> swore to god it was stupidly ridiculously accessible with Voiceover.
>  
> When I insisted to the guy, no it's not, he's like, all of our native Apple 
> apps are super accessible.
>  
> Just to kind of play with his head a bit, being we all know, that's just a 
> roundhanded assumption with no prior research, it's obvious, I said to him, 
> "Oh!  OK, so you're saying I can edit pictures, crop, remove red eye, adjust 
> brightness/tone, create and remove layers, remove shadowing, etc. with Apogy, 
> which is a photo editer."  He's like, well, no.  I never said that.  I'm 
> like, but you did!  You said all! Apple native apps work ridiculously well 
> with Voiceover.  He's like, OK, fine, not all do, but most do.  GB being one 
> of them.
>  
> I clarified with him I didn't mean on OSX, I meant on iOS.  He's like, yes.  
> I know that.  Yes, it's totally usable.
>  
> So, I grabbed my IPad and fired it up.  I asked him then to show me how to 
> import a karaoke track, lay down my vocals, and then add some effects to my 
> vocal track.
>  
> About 2 minutes into him trying to guide me through the screen, it was very 
> apparent to him that we were getting absolutely nowhere.
>  
> He's like, ok, this is imbarrassing.  I tell you all things we make are 
> accessible.  This thing's a piece of crap!  I'm like, Gee! Ya think?  Now!  
> What're we gonna do about it?
>  
> He's like I don't know.  I'll sent a ticket up to the engineers, but that's 
> about all I can do here.  In his defense, I'll grant him that.  But, I just 
> wish some of these reps would do their freaking homework before just up and 
> out yammerring something they don't honestly know the answer to.  I found 
> that extremely irritating!
> ---
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Jessica Moss 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 2:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: A question I'd really like some serious thought to be given to 
>> regarding iOS.
>> 
>> I find Garage band to be a real disappointment to work with as well, which 
>> is really upsetting to me.  My dad does a lot with it on his ipad, and 
>> uplodes it to facebook, so I thought I could possibly create some of those 
>> same tracks, until I tried in vain and after accidentally taping on drums I 
>> didn’t want, and not being able to correct them, then after watching him 
>> create tracks with his ipad, seeing how he was able to take them in and out 
>> on the fly, something you apparently can’t do with voiceover, and how 
>> knowing your musical notes helps (something I’m not good with) I’ve for the 
>> most part given it up.
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 7:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK guys,
>>>  
>>> First of all, no doubt, I get that this isn't gonna be the experience I'd 
>>> have on the mac OSX side of things with ProTools, or Logic, but I really 
>>> would like some serious thought on this.  I've got an IPad, and really 
>>> would like to know to what extent the accessibility is with the iOS version 
>>> of Garageband.  When I tried it last, I couldn't make any sense of its UI 
>>> at all.
>>>  
>>> I've had a few people from this list, don't remember who, who told me flat 
>>> out that Garageband did work with Voiceover on iOS.  They said I can bring 
>>> the on screen keyboard up, then can do little things like playing Mary had 
>>> a Little lamb, or hot cross buns.  OK, that's all fine and kiddy kiddy, 
>>> here, kiddy kiddy, nice, kiddy, but I wanna get some real brutally honest 
>>> answers here from people who may be a little above the level of Twinkle.  
>>> OK, inevitably, it's an on screen keyboard, so I'm not gonna really be able 
>>> to do Moonlight Sonata, or Hendel Messiah's Hallelujah chorus, LOL! Not 
>>> that I'd do those anyway, but point is, I know I'd be somewhat limited, but 
>>> really how much power do we have with Voiceover either on or off?  Keep i

Re: A question I'd really like some serious thought to be given to regarding iOS.

[Ray Foret jr]

A bit of a mind blower nevertheless wouldn’t you agree?


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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 6:58 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, he was definitely American.  NOt sure why that really matters, but ok.  
> I mean, if you're asking did he speak english, then yes, absolutely.  He was 
> apparently in the Austin call center.
> ---
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> Training Instructor.
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: A question I'd really like some serious thought to be given to 
>> regarding iOS.
>> 
>> You mean you had this kind of exchange with Apple Accessibility?  My 
>> goodness.  Maybe we need actual blind people working in that department:  
>> then, we’d get some actually accurate information.  While I’m glad you 
>> showed him up on his ignorance, I’m not glad it took your effort to make it 
>> a reality.  Seems to me we’ve got a fair bit of work ahead of us.  Was he an 
>> American at least?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
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>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
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>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's kind of what I had suspected to hear.  I just wanted to check.
>>>  
>>> What's worse is, when I spoke to Apple Accessibility over the phone, they 
>>> swore to god it was stupidly ridiculously accessible with Voiceover.
>>>  
>>> When I insisted to the guy, no it's not, he's like, all of our native Apple 
>>> apps are super accessible.
>>>  
>>> Just to kind of play with his head a bit, being we all know, that's just a 
>>> roundhanded assumption with no prior research, it's obvious, I said to him, 
>>> "Oh!  OK, so you're saying I can edit pictures, crop, remove red eye, 
>>> adjust brightness/tone, create and remove layers, remove shadowing, etc. 
>>> with Apogy, which is a photo editer."  He's like, well, no.  I never said 
>>> that.  I'm like, but you did!  You said all! Apple native apps work 
>>> ridiculously well with Voiceover.  He's like, OK, fine, not all do, but 
>>> most do.  GB being one of them.
>>>  
>>> I clarified with him I didn't mean on OSX, I meant on iOS.  He's like, yes. 
>>>  I know that.  Yes, it's totally usable.
>>>  
>>> So, I grabbed my IPad and fired it up.  I asked him then to show me how to 
>>> import a karaoke track, lay down my vocals, and then add some effects to my 
>>> vocal track.
>>>  
>>> About 2 minutes into him trying to guide me through the screen, it was very 
>>> apparent to him that we were getting absolutely nowhere.
>>>  
>>> He's like, ok, this is imbarrassing.  I tell you all things we make are 
>>> accessible.  This thing's a piece of crap!  I'm like, Gee! Ya think?  Now!  
>>> What're we gonna do about it?
>>>  
>>> He's like I don't know.  I'll sent a ticket up to the engineers, but that's 
>>> about all I can do here.  In his defense, I'll grant him that.  But, I just 
>>> wish some of these reps would do their freaking homework before just up and 
>>> out yammerring something they don't honestly know the answer to.  I found 
>>> that extremely irritating!
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 2:55 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: A question I'd really like some serious thought to be gi

cannot seem to install inhanced Alex

[Ray Foret jr]

Running Mac OS10.11.6 final.  Can’t seem to install inhanced Alex and get an 
unknown error when I try.  Any thoughts?  Connection good.


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Re: cannot seem to install inhanced Alex

[Ray Foret jr]

My machine is a mid 2009 Mac book pro and therefore too old for Sierra.  I just 
went through the voices to see if anything new was there and saw the “wswitch 
to enhanced Alex” check box in the table of voices both in the Voice Over 
access menu and the system prefs dictation and speech menu.


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> On Jul 20, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> 
> Enhanced Alex?  Is there a newer one than regular Alex, who is an enhanced 
> voice?  I don't even see Alex Enhanced as an option to download.  I guess it 
> may only work on newer machines than mine.  Just needing more info.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 09:37, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Running Mac OS10.11.6 final.  Can’t seem to install inhanced Alex and get an 
> unknown error when I try.  Any thoughts?  Connection good.
> 
> 
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Ray Foret jr]

Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where you are 
on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.


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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK guys,
>  
> Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
>  
> So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
> audio CD.
>  
> Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
> Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
>  
> The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
> Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
> concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, 
> I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went 
> that idea out the window.
>  
> Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
> split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
> Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up 
> to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc 
> writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 
> 2nd CD.
>  
> I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
> session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it 
> out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it 
> to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and 
> annoying.
>  
> One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  It 
> is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
> split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have 
> Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  
> I'm a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.
>  
> I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, 
> as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for 
> the faint of heart.
>  
> Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, that 
> would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  I 
> just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
> there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
> name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
> beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
> half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.
>  
> Is there not something that would make it that easy?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Command o Not working Inside Dropbox

[Ray Foret jr]

Well, this is disturbing.  You know, some people were complaining about this on 
a podcast:  and, when I told them I had no problems with Command+o running 
Lcapitan, I was told to shut up and that I did not know what I was talking 
about.  In any case, I have no problem with Command+o opening files or folders: 
 but, I hear aknowledge that there are some who do have this problem.  What I’d 
love to know is this.  What Macs have this problem?  Just in case I decide to 
go in the market for a newer (if not brand new) Mac?


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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Actually on certain Macs running El Cap there is a bug where VO O will not 
> open folders as I have it and spent hours on the phone with Apple 
> Accessibility reporting it. To work around this do a command down arrow to 
> open a folder and command up arrow to close the folder.
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Jeff Berwick > > wrote:
>> 
>> I had a sighted person using my computer yesterday, so I guess he changed 
>> that.
>> 
>> Thanks for the quick reply!
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You probably havelayout set for column view. 
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 8:53 AM Jeff Berwick >> > wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> All of a sudden today, when I go into my Dropbox, I cannot use Command + o 
>>> to open a folder.  If I do a [VO] + [Shift] + m and choose open in a new 
>>> tab, it works.  This is only happening inside my Dropbox folder.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Tia,
>>> Jeff
>>> 
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Ray Foret jr]

No trouble here and I’m  running a 2009 Mac book Pro with 10.11.6 and all set 
to list view.


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> On Aug 7, 2016, at 12:20 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Quick Nav turned off.  I always make sure it’s off before doing something.  
> In fact after this update, Voice Over was acting strangely at times and I had 
> to turn Voice Over off on occasion.
> 
> So I tried creating another folder and I can tell you, when I create on and 
> try and write the folder name, Voice Over is not even focusing on that folder 
> i.e. no edit text and I have my voice Over cursor following the mouse 
> pointer.  That’s the first thing I do when I set up my Mac from scratch.  I 
> have checked everything in voice over utilities.  Anyone?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 22:44, E.T. > > wrote:
>> 
>>   Ok. QN will do weird things like this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 8/6/2016 2:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> I am not sure. As I am not in front of my computer. Will let you all know 
>>> tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 6 Aug 2016, at 10:31 pm, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Kawal,
  Is Quick Nav enabled by any chance?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 8/6/2016 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
> Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
> creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
> not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
> wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
> Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
> that untitled folder name and then finally put in my name of choice.
> Before I could do that automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is
> that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
> I'm fundraising for RNIB.
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> Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Ray Foret jr]

Have you tried turning Voice Over off, waiting about 20 seconds or so, pressing 
Cmd+right arrow, then turning Voice Over back on again?

If you’ve tried all this, maybe time to delete the Voice Over Plist file and 
empty the trash then restart Voice Over.  I’d hate to suggest an OS re-install, 
but, you may actually need to go there.


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> On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:51 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Track commander is always on and by the way, I leave both computers on 24 7 
> unless there’s an update or for some reason something isn’t working on the 
> internet.  I just want to know how to fix please?
>> On 7 Aug 2016, at 10:43, Frank Ventura > > wrote:
>> 
>> I tried this on both my iMac and my Mac Book, both running the latest OS 
>> updates and I cannot duplicate this. Is the trackpad commander turned on and 
>> maybe you hit the trackpad?
>>  
>> Frank
>>   <>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 1:21 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. 
>> Please confirm.
>>  
>> Quick Nav turned off.  I always make sure it’s off before doing something.  
>> In fact after this update, Voice Over was acting strangely at times and I 
>> had to turn Voice Over off on occasion.
>>  
>> So I tried creating another folder and I can tell you, when I create on and 
>> try and write the folder name, Voice Over is not even focusing on that 
>> folder i.e. no edit text and I have my voice Over cursor following the mouse 
>> pointer.  That’s the first thing I do when I set up my Mac from scratch.  I 
>> have checked everything in voice over utilities.  Anyone?
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>  
>>  
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 22:44, E.T. > > wrote:
>>  
>>   Ok. QN will do weird things like this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 8/6/2016 2:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure. As I am not in front of my computer. Will let you all know 
>> tomorrow.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 10:31 pm, E.T. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>>  Is Quick Nav enabled by any chance?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/6/2016 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
>> Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
>> creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
>> not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
>> wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
>> Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
>> that untitled folder name and then finally put in my name of choice.
>> Before I could do that automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is
>> that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
>> I'm fundraising for RNIB.
>> 
>> Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin
>> Money Giving page.
>> 
>> To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please
>> visit http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland 
>> where you can
>> also sponsor me online.
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Caption fish not working very well

[Ray Foret jr]

Okay,

Whenever I go to:

http://www.captionfish.com

I get no indication of whether a movie showing in my area has audio 
description.  The only thing I see as I pass over each graphic indicater is:  
"/images/icon_CV-DA.png image”.  Seems like a graphic labeling issue at their 
end to me but cannot be sure.  Has anybody got any ways to work around this or 
otherwise deal with it?

Thanks.


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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Ray Foret jr]

Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any 3.5MM 
headphone in to a blue tooth set.  They will sell it for 19.99 I believe.

https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter

This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at least 
someone is trying.




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> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who had a 
> dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both lightning 
> port and 3.5mm jack. 
> 
> Take care 
> 
> 
>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen :
>> 
>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge 
>> negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the 
>> inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and 
>> reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. I'm 
>> the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about the 
>> removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I suspect 
>> based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of upgrading will 
>> be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of 
>> people to sit it out.
>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, because 
>> one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging about the 
>> possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time when it may 
>> have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that blind people might 
>> be any more sensitive to and respectful of the accessibility needs of 
>> others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess I would like to think that 
>> since we know what impact inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we 
>> would be sensitive to the needs of others, even when the issues didn't 
>> affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and 
>> I've found the whole thing really upsetting. For the most part, it seems 
>> like it's everyone for themselves these days, and if others are being thrown 
>> under the bus, well too damn bad.
>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid 
>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all 
>> the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone 
>> who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to improve, 
>> Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's difficult 
>> to get through an entire business day of use without the need to charge 
>> something.
>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then 
>> charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, 
>> stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which 
>> parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, 
>> appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility market.
>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And 
>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in 
>> time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive carefully 
>> managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on its iDevices. 
>> It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer on its own personal 
>> computers, meaning you won't be able to use the Lightning-based Ear Pods 
>> even with a Mac. That's two sets of headphones you're going to have to carry 
>> around with you, unless you don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the 
>> port you want to charge your phone with. Absolutely absurd.
>> I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking Apple 
>> over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has given them 
>> a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable for daily 
>> use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going to be 
>> stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is 
>> certainly going to be a backlash.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an 
>>> active role in what the future brings.  We, as consumers, have alternatives 
>>> and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay 
>>> attention.  
>>> 
>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous 
>>> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so 
>>> certain t

Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Ray Foret jr]

Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.


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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not a 
> pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That 
> would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the end 
>> of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get around 
>> to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>> 
>>  I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Ray Foret jr]

Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with the 
charging port on it.

Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  


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> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
> box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
> port.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr > <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
>> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller >> <mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. >>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>>>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>>>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>>>> 
>>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
>>>>> 
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Re: the mystery is solved! (was Another Annoying issue in mail)

[Ray Foret Jr]

Now, if we can only solve the read by thread issue.  That's the one plegueing 
me at the moment.  Can't use the right arrow key to expand a thread so I have 
to use control+tab.  The only way to resolve this is to restart my machine.  
Pressing enter on a calapsed thread usually crashes my mail.

PS.  Damn, can't type today.


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On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Whoever posted that having the preview pane open was what was causing the 
> read status not to be spoken was absolutely correct.  This explains why I 
> didn't start seeing this till Saturday, I had had the preview pane turned 
> off, and somehow managed to get it visible again.
> 
> Anyway, follow Ricardo's instructions below to disable preview pane, and you 
> will hear the read status spoken.  One note: make sure you perform the mouse 
> click from the track pad.  If you try and do it from the keyboard it won't 
> work.
> 
> Glad we've got at least one mail issue solved. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> lol,
>> 
>> Its not that bad.  There is a vertical splitter that separates the messages 
>> column group which contains the messages table and the message content area 
>> which is the preview pane.  Just make sure your mouse cursor is focused on 
>> this vertical splitter and double click with your trackpad or mouse.  If 
>> using a trackpad, make sure VO's trackpad commander is off.  
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, "Goodin, Donna"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> Do you remember how to do this?  I remember doing it when I first got my 
>>> Mac, and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a circle 
>>> around a bonfire under the full moon, etc.  lol  It took me forever to 
>>> actually do it.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the 
 message to view it in a different window.  This will then mark the message 
 as read.  Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
 
> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail
> is to use mutt on my Linux box.  That's hardly the right answer for a
> Mac users list though.  When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint
> I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem
> with VO not reading the read/unread status.
> 
> I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO
> however.  Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The
> adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the
> status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO
> to speak once it is read.  I forgot how to keep the message from being
> opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation
> and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off
> and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this
> way, the messages don't get selected nor opened.  All I need now would
> be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the
> VO cursor is.  We have a command to go the other way but not this way.
> 
> I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil
> one of those "new guys."
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>> It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent.  I don't have the 
>> issue Kawal mentions.  And,  I didn't have the problem with VO not 
>> reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I 
>> didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Funny, I have not noticed this myself.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All.
 
 Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever 
 you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail 
 address before the message.  I prefer the old way where it just read 
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if interaction went away

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Hi there,

Considering that OS 10.8 is supposedly going to be much like IOS in many 
respects, it occurred to me that perhaps we might see in 10.8 the vanishing of 
the concept of interaction.  For those of us with Iphones, that might not be 
such a big deal; but, I just can't help wondering.  How would y'all feel if the 
very concept of interaction, (something which we just do without thinking in 
Mac OS), were to go away?  Bear in mind that I have no indications that 
interaction will be going away in 10.8; still, I thought it might be fun to see 
how the group feels about that.


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Re: Carbonite

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In short, if you use only VO, forget it.  Would that be fair to say?  


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On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Yes, but only with jaws and nvda. It is mostly accessible, though
> setup may require use of the jaws cursor. Once set up, though, it is
> accessible.
> 
> On 3/1/12, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>> Hi:
>> Has anyone ever used Carbonite backup. Is it accessible with VO, and Jaws?
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uninstalling Fan Control Under Lion

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Hi there,

I am contemplating installing Fan control, but, I won't do it unless I can 
figure something out.  In SL, one could remove Fan Control by going to:
~/Library/Preferences/Demon Fan control and then, one went to c/Library/Startup 
Items/Fan Control and removed the files there.  After that, reset the SLRC or 
what ever it's called and so on.  However, under Lion, Even though I unhide the 
~/Library folder structure with Tinker Tool and remove the Fan control Prefs 
from it's place there, there's nothing under the c/Library/Startup directory to 
remove.  Where do I look for the Fan control Startup files to remove under 
Lion?  I thought perhaps it might be somewhere in c/Library/System but not sure.

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where am I going wrong with this?

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Hi,

In an attempt to unhide my ~/Library Directory, I'm using the following 
terminal command:

"chflags nohidden /Users//Library/

No luck with that so I'm tryin this:

"chflags nohidden ~/Library/"

No luck with that either.  Note,  the lines of code I'm using above are exactly 
the way I typed them in minus the quotes of course.

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Re: where am I going wrong with this?

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Never mind.  Somehow, I figured it out.

I used:

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> Hi,
> 
> In an attempt to unhide my ~/Library Directory, I'm using the following 
> terminal command:
> 
> "chflags nohidden /Users//Library/
> 
> No luck with that so I'm tryin this:
> 
> "chflags nohidden ~/Library/"
> 
> No luck with that either.  Note,  the lines of code I'm using above are 
> exactly the way I typed them in minus the quotes of course.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: A little spellcheck before pressing send please?

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Can we return to her original request?  I agree.  to speak frankly, not only is 
it that some people do not bother to spell check; but also, that they are 
thinking way ahead of what they're typing.  As a result, they don't pay 
attention to the letters they are pressing on the keyboard.  That makes for 
just plain sloppy writing, and, sometimes, you can't even read the message 
because the typing itself is inexcusably bad.  Lucky this isn't one of those 
English grammar lists where one single space or letter or punctuation mark out 
of place and the moderator throws you off the list.  I've never been on or read 
from such a list; but, I'm told they do exist.


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On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

> Whoa!
> You.  ARe.  SMART
> I'm not sure I could do that!!  :)On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> I was born in French speaking Switzerland, so French is my mother tongue. 
>> My parents are Kurdish and immigrated from Turkey.
>> I was taught German at school.
>> My job is in English.
>> 
>> The bottom line is that I can manage Turkish, one dialect of Kurdish, French 
>> and English. I am not fluent in German.
>> 
>> I am a citizen of the world with my heart anchored in the USA. 
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> What other languages do you know?  What is your first?  Just wondering.  
>>> Thanks.
>>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Guys,
 
 For some reason, ever since I upgraded to Lion, VO announces me misspelled 
 words when I read emails, not just when composing.
 
 I guess it's ok not to always start with some sort of a polite greeting... 
 I don't always do it when replying to messages. However, I think we should 
 dedicate a bit more attention to our spelling. Some emails on the list are 
 really creepy!
 
 Please make a little effort to improve your spelling please. I am not 
 talking about people with English difficulties. I am referring to people 
 that sound like native American / English and do not review their emails 
 before sending. English is my 4th language and I do try to sound coherent 
 and use the right punctuation. It looks and plays nicer when using a text 
 to speech!
 
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redirecting voice over?

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Say, can someone out there tell me whether or not it is possible to cause VO to 
be redirected to another output other than the default?  I'm not talking here 
about chaging the default output to Sound Flower or anything; rather, I'd like 
to be able to redirect VO itself to  occur in another output other than the 
default.  Is this possible?  I've look in Utilities/Audio Midi set up and can't 
seem to find it there.  Thanks.


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Re: redirecting voice over?

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Using Lion.  Thanks much.


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On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> If your using Lion, yes.  If not, no.  Look in VO utilities under sound.  
> There is a pop up menu to choose what sound card VO uses.
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Mar 3, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Say, can someone out there tell me whether or not it is possible to cause VO 
>> to be redirected to another output other than the default?  I'm not talking 
>> here about chaging the default output to Sound Flower or anything; rather, 
>> I'd like to be able to redirect VO itself to  occur in another output other 
>> than the default.  Is this possible?  I've look in Utilities/Audio Midi set 
>> up and can't seem to find it there.  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Burning DMG files?

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Will the app Burn not do the same things?  I have both Simply burns and Burn.  
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On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:53 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Yeh, you know, when I looked for burn, I couldn't find the tool bar on my 
> finder.  It's not something I use all that often so may have unchecked it or 
> something.  There's burn to disk in the file menu or the context menu, but 
> without actually burning a disk, I couldn't be sure they wouldn't just burn a 
> copy of the disk image, which wouldn't be what the doctor ordered.
> 
> Where-as simply burns is tried and true.  It gives you full information 
> before it burns the image.  It has all kinds of other burning features such 
> as the ability to make audio cd's from flac files, or create images from your 
> cd's or dvd's.  As much as I know finder and disk utility do all these 
> wonderful things, I prefer to trust an actual cd burning program to handle 
> it.  I can see exactly what's going on and know exactly what it's doing.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> On 2012-03-03, at 6:19 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>Can't you select the disk image in Disk Utility from the list, put a 
>> blank disk in the optical drive and then with the image selected, choose, 
>> Burn, from the toolbar?  I haven't done this in a while, but I think that's 
>> how I did it in the past.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:28 PM, "Bill Holton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks like to burn a DMG file to a disk you have to drag and drop the source
>>> and destination in the disk utilities menu and then restore.  Is there a
>>> better way to do this with keystroke commands?  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: accessible iMovie?

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For my part, I would like to know whether it's possible for you to edit videos 
much in the way we edit audio in apps like amadeus Pro.  Any app that can let 
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On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Mike Malarsie wrote:

> I have been making YouTube videos in iMovie for a few months. What do you 
> want to accomplish? 
> 
> Mike Malarsie 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
>> I  am thinking of getting back into using iMovie. I have the older program 
>> (version '09) and the scroll areas are not accessible nor are some of the 
>> buttons. does anyone have any updated information about iMovie and using 
>> voiceover?
>> 
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issues selecting more than one item noncontiguously in ITunes

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Okay.  Here's the deal.  While interacting with the music source list table, I 
was trying to remove some items noncontiguously.  I found, however, that using 
control+up or down would not do it.  It didn't matter whether I had curser 
tracking on or off.  Any ideas how to select noncontiguously without having to 
do a select all?

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ITunes crashes when ever I add to library

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Okay,  This is really ticking me off.
What happens is this.  In preparation for trying to practice using the ITunes 
DJ play list and  getting used to how it works,

I installed ITunes 10.6 and repaired disk permitions.  I deleted all Items from 
my ITunes Library which I wished not to have there.  Then, I made sure that 
ITunes is set not to add files to the Library location but leave them where 
they are;  on my Mac drive.

Now, when ever I go to add files to the Library Music table, this is what I do.

1.  Press command+o to add to Library.

2.  Select the folder from which I wish to add files.

3.  Select contiguously all files I wish to choose.

4.  Now, I press return to ad files.

At this point, ITunes will seem to add the files; and, I get the triple 
ding sound indicating that files were added; and then, ITunes crashes.  This 
happens time after time.  What ever could I be doing wrong here.  Do I need now 
to completely throw out the entire Library and make a brand new one?  If so, I 
suppose I'd better plan on backing up my Iphone aps to an SD card before I do.  
I can't start to practice Using the ITunes DJ feature without even being able 
to add suff to the blasted library.

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ITunes crashing all the time now

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I sware, Apple has really gone and screwed up ITunes big time.  Now, I cannot 
even navigate up or down in source lists.  I don't know What apple did; but, 
what ever it was, version 10.6 really sucks.  It's not even usable basically 
anymore.  About the only thing I can think to try next is delete the
~/Library/Preferences/ComAppleITunes.plst 
and the 
~/Library/Preferences/ITunes/Help.ppsl files or what ever the heck they are.  
I'm been fooling with this damn thing all night and I've about had it!!!  Sorry 
folks, but, this time, it looks like Apple's just made things a lot worse.

I'm so completely not going to reinstall my entire OS over this!!!


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Re: ITunes crashing all the time now

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I so completely did not understand that response.  Makes no sense to me at all.


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On Mar 9, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Wes Smith wrote:

> I havnt had an
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> I sware, Apple has really gone and screwed up ITunes big time.  Now, I 
>> cannot even navigate up or down in source lists.  I don't know What apple 
>> did; but, what ever it was, version 10.6 really sucks.  It's not even usable 
>> basically anymore.  About the only thing I can think to try next is delete 
>> the
>> ~/Library/Preferences/ComAppleITunes.plst 
>> and the 
>> ~/Library/Preferences/ITunes/Help.ppsl files or what ever the heck they are. 
>>  I'm been fooling with this damn thing all night and I've about had it!!!  
>> Sorry folks, but, this time, it looks like Apple's just made things a lot 
>> worse.
>> 
>> I'm so completely not going to reinstall my entire OS over this!!!
>> 
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Re: ITunes crashing all the time now

[Ray Foret Jr]

Oh yeah, I tried repairing permitions alright.  in fact, I went so far as to 
try a reinstall of Lion; but, that's a no go since it stalled at the "signing 
in to Apple Store" screen and would not let me go any firther.


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On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:45 AM, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Ray,
> 
> I am having no problem with itunes 5.6.  Infact the problems with tracks 
> skippping has now been fixed.  Not sure what you may be having.  Have you 
> tried reparing permisions?  
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> I sware, Apple has really gone and screwed up ITunes big time.  Now, I 
>> cannot even navigate up or down in source lists.  I don't know What apple 
>> did; but, what ever it was, version 10.6 really sucks.  It's not even usable 
>> basically anymore.  About the only thing I can think to try next is delete 
>> the
>> ~/Library/Preferences/ComAppleITunes.plst 
>> and the 
>> ~/Library/Preferences/ITunes/Help.ppsl files or what ever the heck they are. 
>>  I'm been fooling with this damn thing all night and I've about had it!!!  
>> Sorry folks, but, this time, it looks like Apple's just made things a lot 
>> worse.
>> 
>> I'm so completely not going to reinstall my entire OS over this!!!
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
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Re: ITunes crashing all the time now

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did that.  Might need to call Apple over this one.


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On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I was seeing the busy busy stuff in iTunes after upgrading this morning, but 
> a Repair Permissions seems to have taken care of it.  You might give that a 
> try, ray.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Ray,
>> I'm curious if you are running Lion or SL. I'm still on SL, and I'm not 
>> experiencing any problems as you described in the new ITunes. In fact, if 
>> anything, I'd say it is snappier. Now when I first arrow to the store on the 
>> sources table, I'm not stuck with a bunch of busy busy .
>> 
>> Mary
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an update on my ITunes crash issue

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi there,

Remember the problem I was having this weekend with my ITunes 10.6 crashing on 
me all the time even if I just launched it and did nothing else?  Well, I 
called Apple today.  It turns out that, for a small number of users, ITunes 
10.6 does in fact crash all the time.  I am informed that this is being 
investigated and that a future update to ITunes should fix this problem.  The 
issue turns out somehow to be with two files in the User/User name/Music/ITunes 
folder.  The instructions apple gave for fixing it were as follows.

1.  Delete the User/User name/Music/ITunes/ITunes.itl file and empy the trash.

2.  Next, move the User Name/Music/ITunes/ITunesLibrary.xml file to the desk 
top folder right off the home folder.

3.  Now, relaunch ITunes.

4.  From the file menu, select the Library submenu.

5.  From the Library Submenu, Select inport playlist.

6.  Now, navigate to the User/User Name/Desktop folder and press return when 
you reach the ITunesLibrary.xml file.

One further point.  It might be useful to make sure all your settings are 
intact before you do this.  IF, for example, you set ITunes not to copy files 
added to the ITunes/ITunes Media folder, You'll need to reset this before you 
add to the library again.

I'll let everyone know tomorrow what happens with this, as I don't really feel 
like bothering with it tonight.


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yet another update on my crazy ITunes crashing issue

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

I thought that rather than just type it all over again, I'd just better paste 
it in.

You will recall that, for the past two days now, (beginning under date 
of March 12th 2012), I reported to you that ITunes kept crashing on any attempt 
to import files in to my 
C/Macintosh HD/User/Ray/Music/ITunes/ITunes Media/Music
folder.  The files I tried to import all came from the path below:

C/Macintosh HD/User/Ray/Music/Audio From Freeagent Drive/
The settings in ITunes under witch I attempted to perform this import 
were as follows.
1.  In preferences, advanced tab, uncheck the following:
keep ITunes files and folders organized.
b.  Copy files to the ITunes/ITunes Media/Music folder when adding to 
library.
2.  Various play lists were checked and unchecked in general prefs.

You may also recall that, as per your instructions, (and under the 
belief that the location of ITunes Music Library.xml needed to be moved to the 
desk top folder), I did so; and, upon importing play lists from the Library 
submenu off the ITunes file menu, this might solve the problem.  It, however, 
did not.  ITunes continued to crash.

This morning, therefore, (March 13th), I reinstalled Mac OS10.7.3 in an 
attempt to resolve the crashing ITunes issue.  As before, I set ITunes as 
indicated above.  Upon Attempting to import as we saw before, ITunes crashed 
yet again.

Now, I am attepting to import again, but, this time, I am allowing 
ITunes to Copy files.  This is going to be very costly space wise; because, as 
you could see, I have just about 200GB left on my main drive.  If I allow 
ITunes to copy files, it means I will wind up with two copies of each file in 
the:
C/Macintosh HD/User/Ray/Music/Audio From Freeagent Drive/
folder.  I was hoping I would be able just to add files to the ITunes Library 
without having to let ITunes make it's own copies of each file.  At this 
moment, that appears to be the cause of the crashing.  It would seem that, if 
one allows ITunes to make it's own copies of added files and place them in 
folders, ITunes will not crash; but, if coppying is not allowed, then ITunes 
will crash.  
To speak frankly, I feel that this is a bug which needs to be sent to 
the DEV teams and fixed as soon as possible.  Also, I dislike the fact that 
ITunes is so completely Library dependant.  This makes ITunes utterly useless 
in circumstances such as mine.  Can anything be done about this?  
PS.  When this process is done, I will again erase all the 
C/Macintosh HD/User/Ray/Library/Preferences/ComAppleITunes files and reinitiate 
ITunes and not allow copying.  IF, after that, ITunes crashes, I will send 
another e-mail in which will be the pertinent text directly from the crash 
report window.  

A question for y'all.  Should it matter whenther or not ITunes is allowed to 
copy files?  I guess maybe, if I want to add files to my Iphone, those files do 
need to be in the
C/Macintosh HD/User/Ray/Music/ITunes/ITunes Media/Music
structure.  But, with as many files as I have on my Mac, I have perhaps only 
about 200GB left on my main drive.  At the moment, I have no other drive I can 
use.  Any advice maybe?


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Re: yet another update on my crazy ITunes crashing issue

[Ray Foret Jr]

Not sure Mark.  The reason is that, when I tried tonight to import from my 
C/Macontosh HD/User/Ray/Music/Audio/ folder in to my 
C/Macintosh HD/User/Ray/Music/ITunes/ITunes Media/Music folder, it crashed even 
though I set ITunes to allow copying.  I had a thought that perhaps the answer 
might be to just manually move the ~/Music/Audio folder structure intact in to 
the ~/Music/ITunes/ITunes Media/Music folder.  Keep in mind that this is still 
happening even after an OS archive and reinstall.  I really think it's got to 
do with the way ITunes 10.6 is coded.

Honestly, I do wish ITunes wasn't so damn library dependant.  Just give me a 
nice easy fast player that has cross fading and enque and Let me ENQ from the 
finder window and I'm happy.  Now, if they made ITunes so that it wasn't 
library dependant at all, and just a nice little player with ENQ and cross 
fading and could make playlists of any sort, I'd be much happier.  Winamp for 
the Mac is nowhere close to that now.


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On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

> It seems to me that one solution might be to re-check the box outlined in 
> steep B, then manually go back and trash all the copies in the finder windows 
> where you imported them from?  That's always the way I do it; unzip something 
> into a folder; select all the files I want to import, command O to import 
> them; Itunes makes another copy in the ~/Mark/music/itunes/Itunes Music
> folder, then I manually go back and trash the files left behind  in Finder.  
> Would this not fix things?
> 
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Re: yet another update on my crazy ITunes crashing issue

[Ray Foret Jr]

Thanks.

Actually, I wasn't talking about EQ.  I was talking about ENQ.  That's where 
you select a file and you can tell the player to cue it up to play next and not 
imedately.  I know Cog does that, But, cog is rather crash prone; at least, the 
last version I have is.  Winamp for Windows has ENQ right off the explorer 
window; but, sadly, Winamp for Mac ain't even close to being there.  VLC 
appears, so far as I can tell, not to have the file ENQ ability.

There is ENQUEUE for Mac, but, the DEV tells me it don't support voice over or 
cross fading.


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On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

> You can't manually import the music in its folders, even if the structure is 
> identical to the ones Itunes uses, into the Itunes Music end directory; 
> Itunes has to update its library.xml file every time else it doesn't know 
> they're there; it's not like Winamp that reads the folder structure directly. 
>  I think VLC Media player will do what you want vis a vis the cross-fading, 
> playlists, has an EQ and all.
> 
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retagging files so that ITunes will organize them exactly how I want?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

I think maybe I worked out what was causing my ITunes to crash on me.  
Actually, I suspect I have Lue to thank for it.  He indicated that perhaps I 
was trying to copy too large a number of files in to a space that could not 
handle it.  So, copy a small number of files, then, delete them from their 
original location keeping only the ITunes made copies.  Now, what I want to do 
before I test this all out and report back is that I want to retag all these 
files in such a way that ITunes will place it's copies so that they are 
organized according to factors I choose.  To give an example, I've got some 
files tagged with artists' names; but, many are not.  Therefore, these loose 
untagged files get dropped in to the unknown artist and unknown album folders.  
How do I change the tag info so that it's correct so that if I make a folder 
called "audio" and I want ITunes to drop all my loose audio there, how do I 
make it do that?  I guess what I'm really looking for here is a way to change 
the tag info without having to go threw ITunes to do it.  the info under 
command+I doesn't seem to let me do that.

Also, let's say I finish adding all my files; and, I discover that I feel like 
renaming a folder or moving the file elsewhere in the Library.  Let's say that, 
instead of doing it threw ITunes, I did it via finder.  Would ITunes not then 
be able to find the files?

Thanks.


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looking for a good temperature monitoring app

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Hi,

subject line says it all.  anybody know of a good accessible app for monitoring 
GPU temperature and so on?


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how to remove Istat Pro or other unwanted wigits

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Okay.

I took a look at Istat pro; and, it looks okay, but, when I clicked on the 
prefs immage link, I could not get out of the window to save my life.  I had to 
force finder to quit and relaunch.  So, how can I get rid of this wigit in an 
accessible way?  There doesn't seem to be any way to do this.  The instructions 
I found on the internet were not at all helpful.


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figured out how to remove Istat Pro wigit from machine please disregard

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Hi Subject line says all.  thanks anyhow.

1.  Open Dashboard.

2.  Press VO+F2 twice quickly to access Wigit menus.

3.  There's a Wigit menu near the bottom.  Click on it.

4.  Now, a list of Wigits is presented.  Vo+right to the wigit desired and if 
it's deletable, you will see the button for this.  Press it.

5.  Restart machine.

6.  Now, in ~/Library/Preferences,  delete all "Wigit" files.  Right at the 
bottom.

7.  Empty trash.

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Re: download window with lion

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Well, for my part, on my 15 inch Mac book pro, the download window has never 
ever failed to show when required.

Not using full screen on Safari by the way.


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On Mar 20, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

> Hi, I have a 15 inch macbook pro and I to, have these issues where the 
> downloads window doesn't show up.
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> On 2012-03-20, at 4:09 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Søren,
>> 
>> No, I've never had a MacBook larger than 13 inches.  And I've never typed 
>> more than occasionally on desktop Macs, so I haven't experienced these 
>> issues.  This sounds like the issues are screen-resolution/size specific.  I 
>> wonder whether anyone else with the larger Mac laptops can report on their 
>> experiences with Safari.  I do note that the major reason I've found to 
>> delay upgrades between major releases of Mac OS X is usually the new 
>> behavior of Safari.  Also, the first system versions after a new release may 
>> show up more VoiceOver focus issues than previously experienced in mature, 
>> stable releases.
>> 
>> Thanks for reporting on your experience.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther.
>>> 
>>> So you have a Macbook pro 15 inch? Safari works differently with VOiceover 
>>> on a 15 inch Macbook. I've experienced things like focusing issues in java 
>>> windows, the mouse getting stuck on the desctop while moving it to the 
>>> webpage with VO command f5, and clicking by pressing VO shift spacebar and 
>>> the other weird issue by bringing up the downloads folder.
>>> I know people who have a macbook 13 inch and an iMac, where this doesn't 
>>> happen.
>>> Best regards:
>>> Søren Jensen
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>>> 
>>> Den 20/03/2012 kl. 17.35 skrev Esther:
>>> 
 Hi Søren,
 
 That's interesting.  I'm using a MacBook Air with Lion.  When I go to full 
 screen mode by pressing command ctrl f in Safari, my toolbar is displayed 
 even if I have hidden it.  I can check this by navigating to the menu bar 
 with either ctrl F2 or VO m, then going to the "View" menu and arrowing 
 down.  If I check this menu before toggling to full screen mode, the first 
 entry shows as "Show Toolbar".  And in this mode, with my toolbar hidden, 
 when I press ctrl option l there is no downloads window displayed, even 
 though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads".  If I show my toolbar, either by 
 using the "View" menu option or the shortcut for toggling the toolbar 
 between show and hide, which is ctrl shift backslash on an English 
 language input keyboard, then the downloads window will show up when I 
 press ctrl option l.  
 
 Similarly, making Safari run in full screen mode by toggling this on with 
 command ctrl f will also let my downloads window show up when I press ctrl 
 option l.  But what happens here is that my toolbar is forcibly shown when 
 I'm in full screen mode.  If I navigate to the menu bar and check the 
 "View" menu while in full screen mode, the first menu entry will show up 
 as "Hide Toolbar" and will also be announced as "dimmed", indicating that 
 I can't change this.  Furthermore, I can test whether the toolbar is 
 present by using the shortcut ctrl F5 for navigating to the toolbar. When 
 my toolbar is hidden, pressing ctrl F5 will not take me to the toolbar, 
 because it's hidden. As previously stated, in this mode I can't see the 
 downloads window when I press command option l.  If I show my toolbar, and 
 am not in full screen mode, then pressing ctrl F5 takes me to the "Back 
 button" of the toolbar.  Now, even if my toolbar is hidden when I am not 
 in full screen mode, once I press command ctrl f, and VoiceOver says 
 "Enter Full Screen",  it becomes visible.  If I press ctrl F5, I'll be 
 taken to the "Back button", and I check the "View" menu, "Hide Toolbar" 
 appears as dimmed.  And because the toolbar is now forcibly shown, even 
 though it was originally hidden when not in full screen mode, pressing 
 command option l now shows me my downloads folder.
 
 I wonder if the difference in behavior, where I can view the downloads 
 folder when the toolbar is not hidden without having to run Safari in full 
 screen mode, is another one of those instances of English-specific 
 shortcut key mapping? I know that UK users are also able to view the 
 downloads folder if their toolbar is not hidden, without having to put 
 Safari into full screen mode.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther 
 
 
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>

Re: Is Piezo Accessible?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Other than the fact that Audio Highjack Pro goes deep in to Apple's settings, 
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>   Yes it is.  I have downloaded and used it.
> 
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Re: Kindle App on iPhone

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Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.

It ain't accessible at all.


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On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my wife is 
> reading.  I can't, however, figure out how to get it to work.  Has anybody 
> had success with the Kindle app?  Is it accessible?  Any tips?
> 
> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of rendering the 
> text.
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Re: Kindle App on iPhone

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That's not quite true.  It's not because of copy right.  The truth is this.  
It's because of the Author's guild.  They don't want the blind to be able to 
read their books without extra costs.  Their twisted reasoning is that the text 
to speech tecnhology will rob them of sales.  Every single organization of the 
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On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Hank Smith wrote:

> so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
> On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's 
>> ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights 
>> management.  This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble Nook 
>> app, for example.  You'll notice that usually you can access everything 
>> except for the actual content of the text.  That's being blocked.  You can 
>> verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending the results to an OCR 
>> app like Prizmo or TextGrabber.  The OCR app will tell you what the contents 
>> are, but obviously you're not going to read the book by screen capturing 
>> every page and sending it to an OCR app.
>> 
>> If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the ability of 
>> screen readers to access text would promote copyright violation, take a look 
>> at Greg Kearney's posted response from Fictionwise in the archives, sent in 
>> reply to his inquiry about ebook accessibility for their ebook reading app 
>> just a few months after the iPhone 3GS was released with VoiceOver support:
>> • Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html
>> Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your computer, you 
>> can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read down the thread for 
>> other reader comments.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.
>>> 
>>> It ain't accessible at all.
>>> 
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>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my wife 
>>>> is reading.  I can't, however, figure out how to get it to work.  Has 
>>>> anybody had success with the Kindle app?  Is it accessible?  Any tips?
>>>> 
>>>> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of rendering 
>>>> the text.
>>>> 
>>>> Thx,
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
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Re: Kindle App on iPhone

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Say Steve, your reply appears to be way at the bottom of the message.  Unless i 
am mistaken, it seems to be common practice to set one's e-mail client to set 
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On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 07:03:30PM -0700, Jamie Tachiyama wrote:
>> They get around it by making the Kindle for PC app accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/22/12, Hank Smith  wrote:
>>> so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
>>> On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>> There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's
>>>> ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights
>>>> management.  This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble
>>>> Nook app, for example.  You'll notice that usually you can access
>>>> everything except for the actual content of the text.  That's being
>>>> blocked.  You can verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending
>>>> the results to an OCR app like Prizmo or TextGrabber.  The OCR app
>>>> will tell you what the contents are, but obviously you're not going to
>>>> read the book by screen capturing every page and sending it to an OCR app.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the
>>>> ability of screen readers to access text would promote copyright
>>>> violation, take a look at Greg Kearney's posted response from
>>>> Fictionwise in the archives, sent in reply to his inquiry about ebook
>>>> accessibility for their ebook reading app just a few months after the
>>>> iPhone 3GS was released with VoiceOver support:
>>>> • Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html
>>>> Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your
>>>> computer, you can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read
>>>> down the thread for other reader comments.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It ain't accessible at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my
>>>>>> wife is reading.  I can't, however, figure out how to get it to
>>>>>> work.  Has anybody had success with the Kindle app?  Is it
>>>>>> accessible?  Any tips?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of
>>>>>> rendering the text.
>>>>>> 
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Re: Desktop and Screensaver Preferences "busy"?

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Nope.  Works fine for me.


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On Mar 25, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> Every time I try to adjust the screensaver preferences in System Preferences, 
> VO just says busy and I can't access this pane at all. Does anyone else 
> experience this issue?
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Re: Desktop and Screensaver Preferences "busy"?

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Now that is odd; since I find I do not have to do this.


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On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Thanks, Ray. I figured it out, sort of. I had to use the mouse keys to go 
> into the actual preference pane. I'm playing around with mouse and VO cursors 
> now to see which way I prefer to navigate.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
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>> Nope.  Works fine for me.
>> 
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>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> Every time I try to adjust the screensaver preferences in System 
>>> Preferences, VO just says busy and I can't access this pane at all. Does 
>>> anyone else experience this issue?
>>> 
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Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

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Quite correct.  In Lion, you need to interact with the message header group 
then focus on the e-mail of the sender, then, for some reason, VO+left just 
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> Here's something that makes things a little easier. In Lion, I went into the 
> headers and found the email address. Then I brought up the contextual menu 
> with VO-shift-m. In that menu is an item: "Reply to sender". This is a bit 
> shorter than copying and pasting.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
> 
>> What a pain. It's hard for me to do that. is there any way to copy and paste 
>> the addresses?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are replying to someone on the list then that is where your message 
>>> will go. In order to reply directly to someone you will need to put their 
>>> address in the "To:" field.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Jenny Perdue Keller wrote:
>>> 
 I have tried to reply to only 1 person in a list but it replies to 
 everyone no matter what command I use. Help.
 
 
 
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> Hello all.
> I have heard of apps that can amplify the sound around you. Please can I 
> ask, what do you all use? Asking as I may need this as a backup due to 
> hearing aid problems. Yes, I am hearing impaired. This is on an iPhone 4 
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farily urgent! Regarding Flash Back

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Doubtless, by now, y'all have heard of the Flash Back Trojan and the fact that 
6000 Macs were most likely infected by this thing!  I found that the removal 
process for this bugger is quite complex and is done mainly from terminal.

All I can tell you here is that you type in the following code in to terminal 
to see if you're infected:

defaults read /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Info LSEnvironment defaults 
read /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/Info LSEnvironment defaults read 
~/.MacOSX/environment DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES

IF you get back the message saying that the default pairs does not exist or 
something like that, you are not infected.  This nasty virus desgizes itself in 
the form of an update to the Adobe flash player.  this hit me the other day and 
so I decided I'd better check to see if I was infected.  so far, I appear not 
to be.  In light of this, does anybody know of a good anti virus app for the 
Mac which is very accessible?

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anyone using AT&T U-verse as Imap rather than pop?

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Hi,

I'm thinking of setting up my AT&T U-verse as a imap rather than a pop account 
so that I can keep messages on the server even after checking my e-mail on my 
Iphone.  I guess the first question is this.

1.  do I really need to set up AT&T U-verse as an imap rather than a pop 
account to do this?

2.  IF so, what ar the proper imap server designations which I need to use?  I 
know that AT&T has changed there pop 3 server to 
inbound.att.net
and there SMTP to
outbound.att.net

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Re: 5:1 sound output on a mac?

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Actually, I've done 5.1 channel sound from my Mac.  The sound for 5.1 channels 
is taken directly from what is normally the ear phone output jack.  You'll want 
to be aware that when you run 5.1 channel sound out of your Mac, you will lose 
VO unless you direct VO to another output;  say, a grifin Imike for example.

Other than that, a Braille display will work nicely.

One further thing.  You'll need to tell what ever app your going to use to 
output to 5.1 channel sound, and also, you will notice that 5.1 channel sound 
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> 
> I am cross posting this to 2 groups that have some of the best experts for 
> macs around (and also deal with the blind).
> 
> what i am looking for is this: I woold like to be able to have 5:1 or higher 
> surround sound output from my mac (either via firewater or USB device) and 
> haven't had a lot of luck finding anything. can any of you suggest a 
> manufacturer or some place that has this hardware and also... does anyone 
> have any experience setting up such devices. I would like to be able to use 
> my Mac as part of a home theater system and this is the last stumbling block.
> 
> thanks.
> 
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Re: 5:1 sound output on a mac?

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I tell you that it's in 5.1 channel sound.  I know.  I have played DVD's in 5.1 
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> no problem redirecting vo to a 2 channel usb device (I have one of those). 
> the only issue is: is that SP/DIF output in 5:1 sound or analog. that does 
> make a difference as I have a 5:1 capable sound receiver that uses SP/DIF.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Actually, I've done 5.1 channel sound from my Mac.  The sound for 5.1 
>> channels is taken directly from what is normally the ear phone output jack.  
>> You'll want to be aware that when you run 5.1 channel sound out of your Mac, 
>> you will lose VO unless you direct VO to another output;  say, a grifin 
>> Imike for example.
>> 
>> Other than that, a Braille display will work nicely.
>> 
>> One further thing.  You'll need to tell what ever app your going to use to 
>> output to 5.1 channel sound, and also, you will notice that 5.1 channel 
>> sound will only show up when a receiver which can take it is connected.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone.
>>> 
>>> I am cross posting this to 2 groups that have some of the best experts for 
>>> macs around (and also deal with the blind).
>>> 
>>> what i am looking for is this: I woold like to be able to have 5:1 or 
>>> higher surround sound output from my mac (either via firewater or USB 
>>> device) and haven't had a lot of luck finding anything. can any of you 
>>> suggest a manufacturer or some place that has this hardware and also... 
>>> does anyone have any experience setting up such devices. I would like to be 
>>> able to use my Mac as part of a home theater system and this is the last 
>>> stumbling block.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Ejecting a disk.

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You eject a disk or drive by using command+E  After that, if Voice Over doesn't 
tell you it's gone; and, usually, it should, you can tell by tabbing or else 
using VO+right or left.  You'll notice when it's not there anymore.


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On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi,
> If I need to eject a disk such as a thumb drive or sd card, How do I tell 
> when it is ejected?
> Thanks,
> Stacey and Chesley
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Re: Ejecting a disk.

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Sure thing; but, remember, she asked specifically how to eject a drive or disk. 
 She knows now, I think.


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On Apr 9, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Michael Malarsie wrote:

> I am pretty sure your good to go once it's not on the desktop anymore. At 
> least thats what I do with my harddrive.
> 
> Mike Malarsie 
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> If I need to eject a disk such as a thumb drive or sd card, How do I tell 
>> when it is ejected?
>> Thanks,
>> Stacey and Chesley
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Re: Infovox Ivox 3 is finally out!

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Okay, so, since I already have version 2, why should I bother with Version 3?

just curious.


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On Apr 12, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Elena Brescacin wrote:

> hi, it's not in the app store.
> Go here:
> http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/downloads
> it's for the mac osx, not for iDevices
> you have to download the program, then as I can understand you have a
> "voice manager" where you can download and try what you want
> bye
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got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices

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Okay okay.  I downloaded version 3 and installed it.  I now have lost all my 
Acapela voices and so, I have written to the Origen instroments place where I 
bought the voices from and asked them for my license keys back.

I thought this was supposed to be a free upgrade.

Part of what makes this a little tricky is the fact that my e-mail address has 
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Re: got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices

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Did that.  All voices show as being uninstalled and unregistered.


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On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Ray,
> 
> I think the new version of Infovox iVox works differently from the previous 
> ones. Have a look in your Applications folder for one called Infovox iVox 
> Voice Manager.app.
> 
> This is what you use to enable the voices.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 12 Apr 2012, at 16:25, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Okay okay.  I downloaded version 3 and installed it.  I now have lost all my 
>> Acapela voices and so, I have written to the Origen instroments place where 
>> I bought the voices from and asked them for my license keys back.
>> 
>> I thought this was supposed to be a free upgrade.
>> 
>> Part of what makes this a little tricky is the fact that my e-mail address 
>> has changed since I did the version 2 voices.
>> 
>> 
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Re: got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices

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Thing is, it's a separate window that pops up, but, you need to use VO+F2 twice 
to get in to it.


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On Apr 12, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Hi! I'm not having any luck getting this to work at all. None of the screens 
> you described are showing up. Am wondering what I'm doing wrong.
> Thanks!
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Henry D.  Hollithron
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:12 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices
> 
> Good Day: 
> 
> When I did the upgrade, there was a second window available from the Window 
> chooser for the voice manager which told me to redeem the activation codes. 
> It had found the activation codes for the older InfoVox language packs which 
> I had, and I had to activate each one by pressing the "activate" button next 
> to each code. For the first activation, it asked me to create an account with 
> my name and email address, which could be edited. After that, the process 
> became quite simple. Then, it was a simple matter of going to the tools menu 
> and selecting "Install all licensed voices". They appear to have done some 
> updates on the existing voices.
> 
> HTH:
> Henry
> 
> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the 
> last.
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> On 12 Apr 2012, at 11:32, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ray,
>> 
>> You'll need to contact the supplier of Infovox iVox to get that fixed.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Apr 2012, at 17:07, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Did that.  All voices show as being uninstalled and unregistered.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Ray,
>>>> 
>>>> I think the new version of Infovox iVox works differently from the 
>>>> previous ones. Have a look in your Applications folder for one called 
>>>> Infovox iVox Voice Manager.app.
>>>> 
>>>> This is what you use to enable the voices.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> On 12 Apr 2012, at 16:25, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Okay okay.  I downloaded version 3 and installed it.  I now have lost all 
>>>>> my Acapela voices and so, I have written to the Origen instroments place 
>>>>> where I bought the voices from and asked them for my license keys back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought this was supposed to be a free upgrade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Part of what makes this a little tricky is the fact that my e-mail 
>>>>> address has changed since I did the version 2 voices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
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Re: Adjusting system and VoiceOver volumes independently in Lion.

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Function F11 lowers system volume and function F12 raises volume again.

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On Apr 14, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Okay, here was the question I was trying to ask when things really fell apart.
> This evening I found the David Woodbridge tutorial on adjusting the system 
> volume and VoiceOver volume independently. In his example, he was playing a 
> relax something in the background. When I did it, I was playing his mp3 
> tutorial. I then used the command-option-command left arrow to find volume. I 
> then held down the modifier keys and moved down to lower the voiceover 
> volume. I followed his exercise and then started moving back up. In his 
> example, when he hit 96 per cent, the next thing was system volume 20 per 
> cent. He could then raise, but not lower the system volume. In my attempt, 
> after 95 per cent was 100 per cent and that was that. When I use function F11 
> to lower the system volume, it lowered VoiceOver as well.
> In trying to look around, I can't find any setting that refers to separating 
> these two volume levels.
> I keep having this experience with his tutorials. He says do this and that 
> will happen. I do this and just hear bink! According to the about this mac, I 
> have 10.7.3. Where am I going wrong here?
> Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
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Re: a quick tip for you all

[Ray Foret Jr]

It also helps with Amadeus pro scrubbing feature.  It makes the audio go by 
really fast.  Very helpful when moving through large portions of audio.


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On Apr 15, 2012, at 2:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Matthew.
> 
> Thank you for this tip.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> I've been doing some messing around in system preferences in the keyboard 
>> section and wow have I really sped up keyboard performance.
>> Slide the sliders for both "Key repeat" and "Delay until repeat" to 100%. 
>> You will see a big improvement in keyboard navigation. I really noticed this 
>> on one of the web sites that I visit that has no headings or other 
>> navigational elements to make navigation quicker. I was able to hold down VO 
>> right arrow, and just zip through the page.
>> I'm hoping that this might translate in to better gaming performance in my 
>> virtual machine but I'm not holding my breath.
>> Well, I just thought I'd share this tip with you all. I'd be interested to 
>> know other areas that speeding up the keyboard helps.
>> Kind regards,
>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: audio with Perrien

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Uh, what exactly is this and what is it supposed to be good for?


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On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> here are the details required.
> 
> http://perian.org/
> 
> download the dmg file.
> 
> open it, you will find a file called perian.pref.
> 
> run it.
> 
> you will be asked for your admin password (if you have set one, input it, if 
> not, just hit enter)
> 
> you will be asked if you want to install it to all users or just you. for 
> best results including making a recovery user, install to all users.
> 
> you will be asked for your admin password again.
> 
> after this, it's installed and system preferences updates itself with the 
> icon installed at the bottom.
> 
> this doesn't need any attention as it's auto configured and is system wide.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 15 Apr 2012, at 18:09, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> 
>> Well, if you can send me the direct link, I'll download and install it and 
>> tell you how I did it, but I don't find anything under the spelling, 
>> "Perian."  
>> 
>> 
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Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!

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Nope, just tried it to see and that aint gonna work.


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On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

> I wonder, can you use Items Chooser menu to search for "from?"  I wonder if 
> that might be easier, at this point, than navigating to it, until navigation 
> is more second nature?
> 
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Re: OS X Mountain Lion

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Hey, if you signed on to an NDA, (non disclosure agreement) you WERE, NOT, 
SUPPOSED, TO, TELL, US, ANYTHING, ABOUT, THAT!!!  This is something I take very 
very seriously, and, so should you!!!

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On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Daniel Macdonald wrote:

> hello List,
> OS X Mountain Lion. it is quite like iOS, with a lot of the same apps. one 
> aspect that is different is software update. OS X Mountain Lion. the software 
> update is done through the app store, much like iOS.  just want to pass along 
> I am . using 
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demonstration of how to privately reply to a message

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi there,

I thought it might be helpful for me to make and share this short little 
recording on how to reply to a message.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13790727/How%20to%20plivately%20reply%20to%20a%20message%20sender.MP3

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how to privately reply to a message restored for a week.

[Ray Foret Jr]

For the benefit of those who may still need it, here is the new link to the how 
to reply privately to a message.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13790727/How%20to%20plivately%20reply%20to%20a%20message%20sender.MP3

I'll leave this up until Sunday April 29th then it gets taken down.

HTH.


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as promised, the voice over recording

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As I promised yesterday, here's the small tutorial on how to do Voice Overs 
using amadeus Pro Version 2.0.7.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13790727/How%20To%20do%20Voice%20Overs%20Using%20Amadeus%20Pro.mp3


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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Ray Foret Jr]

How you sign up?  I saw the web site but there ain't no edit boxes or links to 
sign up with.


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On Apr 25, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Ok, i have signed up, now to see if i get accepted.:-)
> /Krister
> 
> 25 apr 2012 kl. 17:01 skrev Ed Worrell:
> 
>> HEllo listers, I am wrighting to let the list know that I have been working 
>> with an app developer to get his Facebook client app more accessible. He is 
>> now ready to have the app tested, and is wanting some people in the blind 
>> community to test it and make sure it works with Voiceover. Here is the link 
>> to get registered 
>> http://bit.ly/Hv7FPU
>> Please help out this developer and give him some good feedback.
>> Thanks
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my music at
>> http://soundcloud.com/blindworrell
>> Follow me on Twitter at
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Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?

[Ray Foret Jr]

I'm using Skype 5.7 and having no dial pad accessibility issues at all.  Voice 
mail still does not work howevre.  I have a custom greeting and that should not 
make a difference.


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On Apr 30, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with 
> Skype Team.
> 
> Hi Kevin.
> 
> I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the 
> program, it worked beautifully with the Mac.  However since Microsoft have 
> bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac.
> 
> The dial pad is inaccessible.  Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac 
> fixed?
> 
> If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to get 
> this sorted.
> 
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Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Here' the problem.

1.  I have a custom greeting.  When people say they leave me voice mail, I 
interact with the HTML area where the voice messages should be found, but, no 
messages show up?

3.  I used the fix suggested by the Skype people; namely, delete the
C/Users/Ray/Library/App Support/Skype/Share.xml file and then reset to Do 
nothing with calls then shut Skype down for five minutes then restart it and 
set radio button to rout to Voice messenging.


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On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> What do you mean voice mail doesn't work? Can you please provide more details 
> and steps to reproduce? Is the issue finding voicemails people left for you, 
> playing them, and/or leaving them?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> I'm using Skype 5.7 and having no dial pad accessibility issues at all.  
>> Voice mail still does not work howevre.  I have a custom greeting and that 
>> should not make a difference.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with 
>>> Skype Team.
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin.
>>> 
>>> I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the 
>>> program, it worked beautifully with the Mac.  However since Microsoft have 
>>> bought it, it has not been very good on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> The dial pad is inaccessible.  Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac 
>>> fixed?
>>> 
>>> If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to 
>>> get this sorted.
>>> 
>>> Kawal. 
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Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?

[Ray Foret Jr]

I believe there is a way.  You add someone to the call by adding them in the 
usual way; or so I suppose.  Gonna have to play with it later to make sure.


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On May 1, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> What i wonder about skype is this: When i am in a conference and someone 
> wants to praticipate and calls me how can i then add them to the conference, 
> and i'm not talking about when i'm about to call someone or if i want to add 
> someone by calling them, i'm talking about when someone calls in and i get a 
> dialog saying "answer" or "decline". Is there a way today and if so how do 
> you do it? If not, will there be a way?
> /Krister
> 
> 1 maj 2012 kl. 00:08 skrev Kevin Chao:
> 
>> I raised this issue wiht Skype beta team a while ago and I was toldwas that 
>> this is by design. If you wish to not have Skype not start at Home, rather 
>> your contacts, it's required to purchase Skype Premium.
>> 
>> FYI: eBay (not Google owned Skype before) and now Microsoft has it
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully, this 
>>> is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1
>>> complaint with skype on the mac.
>>> When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version 5.1 
>>> or so, the program always started in the contacts
>>> list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on 
>>> something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home.
>>> It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively 
>>> difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find
>>> my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is 
>>> something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just
>>> aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only 
>>> run it periodically to check for updates in hopes
>>> that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and 
>>> again, and there simply isn't a way to configure
>>> how the program starts.
>>> To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim 
>>> that they don't have this problem. I'd be more
>>> than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem, 
>>> but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't
>>> really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the 
>>> simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever
>>> used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to someone.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries
>>> Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
>>> 
>>> This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with 
>>> Skype Team.
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin.
>>> 
>>> I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the 
>>> program, it worked beautifully with the Mac.
>>> However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the 
>>> Mac.
>>> 
>>> The dial pad is inaccessible.  Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac 
>>> fixed?
>>> 
>>> If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to 
>>> get this sorted.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Captia solving on the mac.

[Ray Foret Jr]

No. there is not.  Solona is dead.  However, with Firefox soon to be accessible 
on the Mac, this may be a moot point.


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On May 2, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I know that in Windows you can use Webvism to solve captias with Firefox. Is 
> there a similar method for solving them using Safari?
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
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Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Gee, why not just use the telephone for goodness sake?  I mean, why use other 
apps to make phone calls when a the Iphone does just fine of it's own accord?  
Sorry if I'm missing something here; but, think about it.  Why use Skype to 
make phone calls when your own phone is just as good?


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On May 2, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> e SIP phone clients, both Telephone available from the Mac app store and 
> Blink available from http://icanblink.com both work well. They sound better 
> too.
> 
> I just noticed this long thread so someone else has probably brought this up, 
> but it drives me mad how the new Skype keeps saying "Skype has new window." 
> every single time some kind of change happens, like someone going online. 
> Maddening! I don't keep Skype open for that reason.
> 
> - Austin
> 
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
>> In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac
>> which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command
>> line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one.  Skype
>> may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more
>> universal.  SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there.
>> 
>> On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> Ok.
>>> 
>>> I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my Mac but
>>> there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the mac.
>>> Can this be brought back?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. Hopefully,
 this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1
 complaint with skype on the mac.
 When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was version
 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts
 list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on
 something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home.
 It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not prohibatively
 difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find
 my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that this is
 something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just
 aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, and only
 run it periodically to check for updates in hopes
 that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences time and
 again, and there simply isn't a way to configure
 how the program starts.
 To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they claim
 that they don't have this problem. I'd be more
 than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the problem,
 but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't
 really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss the
 simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever
 used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to
 someone.
 Missy
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM
 To: macvisionaries
 Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible?
 
 This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the Mac with
 Skype Team.
 
 Hi Kevin.
 
 I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google had the
 program, it worked beautifully with the Mac.
 However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on the
 Mac.
 
 The dial pad is inaccessible.  Is there any way of getting Skype for Mac
 fixed?
 
 If there are other issues, feel free any one to say if Kevin is going to
 get this sorted.
 
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Re: No longer able to copy

[Ray Foret Jr]

Neither do I.  Perhaps we can help if maybe you describe what you did before 
and what you're doing now?

1.  Download the book.

2.  Go to the downloads folder off your home folder.

3.  Find the book.

4.  When focused on the book, press command+c to copy.

5.  Now, navigate to the new location you want to move the book to and use 
command+v to paste or shift+command+v to move.

Of course, it goes without saying that you should make sure you are moving the 
unzipped version of the book.


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On May 2, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Richard Ring wrote:

> I have always been able to download books from Bard and copy them to an SD 
> card.I can no longer do this. I press the past command and my mac bonks. I am 
> not an expert Mac user, but this seems like a rather simple thing. I have no 
> clue what I'm doing wrong. 
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Re: Audio redirection

[Ray Foret Jr]

Sean, Alex didn't say to go in to system preferences.  He said to go in to 
Voice Over Utility.  Open this via VO+F8.


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On May 3, 2012, at 6:42 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:

> Hi alex,
> 
> Yes, that is what I thought. But I don't get a choice between speakers and 
> head phones. I only get ✓ Built-in Output. When I go into sound preferences I 
> get either head phones or build in speakers.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Sean 
> On 03/05/2012, at 3:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Yes. Open the vo utility, select the sound tab, and select the sound
>> device vo should use.
>> 
>> On 5/3/12, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> Is it possible on the Mac to have Voice-over going across the head phone and
>>> all system sound going across the internal speakers?
>>> 
>>> Sean
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Re: Audio redirection

[Ray Foret Jr]

I said that I'm in VO preferences.  You want to go to the sounds tab off of the 
VO preferences window.  There, you will find what you are looking for.  
Provided, that is, you are using Lion.  SL, forget it.


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On May 3, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Are you in system preferences or vo preferences?
> 
> On 5/3/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> Sean, Alex didn't say to go in to system preferences.  He said to go in to
>> Voice Over Utility.  Open this via VO+F8.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 3, 2012, at 6:42 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi alex,
>>> 
>>> Yes, that is what I thought. But I don't get a choice between speakers and
>>> head phones. I only get ✓ Built-in Output. When I go into sound
>>> preferences I get either head phones or build in speakers.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> On 03/05/2012, at 3:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes. Open the vo utility, select the sound tab, and select the sound
>>>> device vo should use.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/3/12, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it possible on the Mac to have Voice-over going across the head phone
>>>>> and
>>>>> all system sound going across the internal speakers?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sean
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Re: Audio redirection

[Ray Foret Jr]

Uh, Rick, whether or not you are correct depends upon just one thing.  Your 
assumption is that Sean is not using any sort of other audio device for 
possible sound routing.  he can do it if he's using something like the griffin 
Imic such as I use.  It's a USB device which allows you to rout incoming and 
outgoing sound to it.  Now, on the other hand, let's assume that Sean is not 
using any such device.  IF indeed this is so, you are in fact quite correct.  
this is the case no matter whether he goes in to Voice Over utilities as we 
directed him or not.  
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On May 3, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I think the problem is your not using another sound card.  You can not split 
> the audio from the same sound card.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On May 3, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
> 
>> Hi alex,
>> 
>> Yes, that is what I thought. But I don't get a choice between speakers and 
>> head phones. I only get ✓ Built-in Output. When I go into sound preferences 
>> I get either head phones or build in speakers.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Sean 
>> On 03/05/2012, at 3:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes. Open the vo utility, select the sound tab, and select the sound
>>> device vo should use.
>>> 
>>> On 5/3/12, Sean Murphy  wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Is it possible on the Mac to have Voice-over going across the head phone 
 and
 all system sound going across the internal speakers?
 
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Re: Audio redirection

[Ray Foret Jr]

Quite true Rick.

PS.  been a while.  We simply must catch up off list.

My Skype name is the same as it always was; and, of course, I assume you can 
reply to me off list if you wish.


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On May 3, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Uh,
> 
> exactly.  I think its more of an educated guess than an assumption.  Thats 
> the only reason why another device wouldn't show up in VO utilities or system 
> prefs.  After all, the same options are shown in the same place. :)
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On May 3, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Uh, Rick, whether or not you are correct depends upon just one thing.  Your 
>> assumption is that Sean is not using any sort of other audio device for 
>> possible sound routing.  he can do it if he's using something like the 
>> griffin Imic such as I use.  It's a USB device which allows you to rout 
>> incoming and outgoing sound to it.  Now, on the other hand, let's assume 
>> that Sean is not using any such device.  IF indeed this is so, you are in 
>> fact quite correct.  this is the case no matter whether he goes in to Voice 
>> Over utilities as we directed him or not.  
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 3, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think the problem is your not using another sound card.  You can not 
>>> split the audio from the same sound card.  
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On May 3, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi alex,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, that is what I thought. But I don't get a choice between speakers and 
>>>> head phones. I only get ✓ Built-in Output. When I go into sound 
>>>> preferences I get either head phones or build in speakers.
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> Sean 
>>>> On 03/05/2012, at 3:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes. Open the vo utility, select the sound tab, and select the sound
>>>>> device vo should use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/3/12, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is it possible on the Mac to have Voice-over going across the head phone 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> all system sound going across the internal speakers?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sean
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Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?

[Ray Foret Jr]

I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here.  Jenny, My 
best advice to you is this.  The best way to learn to use any app is to just 
jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two.  How 
else you gonna learn anything about it?  My best advice for seaking help is 
that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere 
use and exploration seem not to get it done for you.  Honestly, it's not that 
we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, 
quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst.  
I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points 
that Scot raises here.  He does have some good points to make, and, I think 
that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a 
try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly.


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On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:

> If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone 
> with my question.
> 
> As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things 
> by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and 
> confused than I started out.
> 
> If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this 
> list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers.
> 
> If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and 
> consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for 
> me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast.  
> 
> That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you 
> from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant 
> question.
> 
> Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable 
> answers to simple questions.
> 
> If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up.
> 
> Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my 
> simple question.
> 
> Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple 
> questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will 
> certainly leave my inbox.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and 
>> there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step 
>> tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have 
>> not researched the questions very thoroughly  on your own and just want to 
>> be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it 
>> seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the 
>> answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone 
>> suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app.
>> Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give 
>> you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being 
>> unfair to those who are providing you the resources.
>> 
>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a 
>>> reminder.  
>>> 
>>> I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I 
>>> had other reminders.  I don't see any old ones though.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it 
>>> I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too 
>>> advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so 
>>> overloaded that I can't absorb any more information.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and 
>>> if you have my number, just call if you want to.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
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Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?

[Ray Foret Jr]

You know, Scot, I agree with most all your points; but, I really do believe we 
could do without the emotional aspect of this.  It ain't helpin' anybody.

I guess maybe she'll either catch on or not.  Some do, some don't.  As for me, 
I ain't never goin' back to windows ever.


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On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people 
> have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know 
> Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love 
> of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer 
> first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have 
> not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the 
> search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help 
> facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so 
> confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I 
> should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research 
> because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most 
> definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in 
> the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least 
> demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly 
> unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the 
> way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on 
> the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials 
> with "step 1 open the application" etc. If that is what you want then say so, 
> otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information.
> So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and 
> your crappy attitude certainly took care of that.
> 
> Good luck, you're going to need it.
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> 
>> If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone 
>> with my question.
>> 
>> As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn 
>> things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more 
>> frustrated and confused than I started out.
>> 
>> If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this 
>> list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers.
>> 
>> If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and 
>> consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for 
>> me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast.  
>> 
>> That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents 
>> you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant 
>> question.
>> 
>> Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable 
>> answers to simple questions.
>> 
>> If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up.
>> 
>> Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my 
>> simple question.
>> 
>> Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to 
>> simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will 
>> certainly leave my inbox.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information 
>>> and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a 
>>> step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me 
>>> that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly  on your own and 
>>> just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and 
>>> encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already 
>>> tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the 
>>> podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app.
>>> Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just 
>>> give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are 
>>> being unfair to those who are providing you the resources.
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>> 
 I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are 
 for.  
 
 I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a 
 reminder.  
 
 I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought 
 I had other reminders.  I don't see any old ones though.
 
 Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it 
 I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too 
 advanced for me, or doesn't t

Re: drop box

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, you are doing nothing wrong.  It's a quark of the way Drop box menus are 
accessed.  It's a bit tricky.

1.  Make sure that, in Voice Over utilities, you set VO to report when the 
mouse enters a new window.

2.  Now, Press Control+F8 to access the Universal access menu.

3.  Now, Move your finger along the very top of the track pad exactly in a 
straight line until you hear, "Drop Box".  Lift your finger off the pad.

4.  Now, press the down arrow key to get in to the menu.  Whether or not you 
can access the preferences window from here is a hit or miss proposition.  

Drop Box has yet to substantively address this issue of accessibility 
for us despite very many of us writing them time and time and time again.  All 
any of us get is a generic, "We're are aware of it and are working on it."
 That explains why, from time to time, you'll see one or other of us come on 
here and ask whether an alternative to Drop Box has been found.  To the best of 
my knowledge, the answer, so far, is no.

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On May 6, 2012, at 12:26 PM, craig J Dunlop wrote:

> I got my drop box setup and all my folders appeared when it opened for the 
> first time. but now when I go back in to it vo tells me dropbox has no 
> windows. what am I doing wrong?
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Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.

[Ray Foret Jr]

For my part, I cannot quarrel with ITunes as a player.  It's the library part 
that sucks.  I agree with Alison's complaint, and, have one to add.  I just 
hate the way ITunes tries to be smart and organized your stuff for you.  Yes, I 
have the keep folders organized check box unchecked, but, it still puts things 
where I don't want them and cannot find things as quickly as I'd need to.  I 
don't think it's a blindness issue either.  Sighted users are beginning to be 
fed up with what ITunes has become.  You  should see the latest editorial in 
Mac World about it.  High time Apple gave us a nice, simle, fully accessible 
player with the store section, (I do like the store part) but without the 
blasted too complex to be truly useable library.  I just hate the way that 
ITunes has become so damn library dependant.  


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On May 6, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

> I find it to be cluttered, and I don't agree with Apple's assumption that I 
> want to add every song I play to my library.
> On May 6, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> I'm confused, what don't you like about iTunes? I happen to absolutely adore
>> it, and use nothing else.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 4:17 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for sharing this Eric. I'm going to check out vlc as an
>> alternative player. I like quick look, but there don't seem to be any player
>> controls.
>> Allison
>> On May 6, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alison and others,
>>> 
>>> Well, it looks like I am wrong.  I will post below the info I saved from a
>> message from Esther.  It seems like the solution is to change the default
>> player to something else.  In my case I use Amadeus Pro.  This gives me
>> controls for play back without needing to add the track to iTunes.  I also
>> learned from Esther about quick look and use that often.
>>> I think other listers have all ready given this advice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One other tip.  If I accidentally do play something in iTunes that I want
>> to delete I usually go to my recently added play list or my zero rated play
>> list. to find and delete it.
>>> 
>>> Sorry to get your hopes up.
>>> 
>>> Esther's directions on how to change the default player are excellent and
>> that alone makes this post worth keeping for future reference!
>>> 
>>> below is Esther's post that helped me with this iTunes issue. 
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> start post 
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> 
>>> You can play tracks without adding them to your iTunes library if you
>> QuickLook them by pressing space bar instead of opening them in an app.
>> This obviously does not work for DRM protected apps, since iTunes is
>> required to validate the DRM (e.g. with audiobooks purchased from Audible or
>> the iTunes Store, movies, really old iTunes Music tracks that were purchased
>> before they moved to DRM-free purchases, etc.)  Other than that, you can set
>> the default app to open mp3 files, for example, to be something other than
>> iTunes (e.g., VLC, QuickTime Player, etc.).  Just select an mp3 track, and
>> use Command-I to bring up the  "Get Info" window.  Use item chooser (VO-I)
>> to navigate to the "Open with" option: specifically VO-Right arrow to the
>> pop up button for the application, VO-Space, then select the app you want
>> other than iTunes (e.g. QuickTime Player or VLC).If you then VO-Right
>> arrow past the pop up, there's an option to "Use this application to open
>> all documents like this on
>>> e." followed by a "Change All" button that you can press (VO-Space) before
>> closing the get info window with Command-W. 
>>> 
>>> I think that as long as iTunes is the default app for opening a file, it
>> adds the new entries to its library.  Just QuickLook the file instead of
>> opening it if you don't want it to be added to iTunes.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks so much Eric. If you're able to find the info, I would really
>> appreciate it. Have a great day!
 Allison
 On May 6, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
> Alison and others,
> 
>   There is a way to set up iTunes so it does not automatically add
>> files when played.  I learned how to do it from Esther quite som time ago.
>> It has been a long time so I'll have to search my notes to find how to do
>> it.  I remember it was not hard to do but it was also not obvious by any
>> means. 
> 
>   So, there is a way but I'll have to get back to you unless someone
>> else does.
> 
> Sorry this is only half a answer but I want

Re: Getting live regions on a web page to automatically speak?

[Ray Foret Jr]

It's a toggle switch.  Turns monitoring on or off.

HTH.


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On May 8, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

> Hi,
> I have made a hot spot and set it to monitor the activity taking place. This 
> seems to be working. Only question I have is how do I stop the monitoring if 
> I want too? Do I have to remove the hot spot?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Doug
> 
> On 2012-05-07, at 11:55 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried making a hotspot and monitoring it?
>> 
>> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.
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>> El 07/05/2012, a las 15:22, Doug Lawlor escribió:
>> 
>>> Hello list:
>>> I am working with a binary options broker who has live regions on their web 
>>> site that update with pricing information. I can find the region and get it 
>>> to speak by arrowing over it using quickNav. I'm sure VO/left and right 
>>> arrows will do the same thing. The problem I am having is when I'm focused 
>>> on this region VoiceOver does not speak it as it's being updated. I have 
>>> Live regions enabled in the Web tab of the VoiceOver utility. Anyone else 
>>> have any pointers on this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: Making cd's without using iTunes

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yes, there are.  My favorite is called "Burn".  Just google it and it comes 
right up.


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On May 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi,
> Are there any free accessible programs for burning music to a cd other than 
> iTunes?
> I just can't figure it all out in iTunes.
> I created a playlist but it put the whole thing in its own order, not the one 
> I wanted.
> Also, I couldn't find the place for burning to disk.
> I'm running the latest version of iTunes. Do I have to have a disk in the 
> drive to see the burn option?
> Blessings,
> Stacey and Geb dog Chesley
> stacey...@bellsouth.net
> 
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Re: Making cd's without using iTunes

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Sure it is.


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On May 12, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Ray,
> is this a free app?
> 
> On May 12, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Yes, there are.  My favorite is called "Burn".  Just google it and it comes 
>> right up.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Are there any free accessible programs for burning music to a cd other than 
>>> iTunes?
>>> I just can't figure it all out in iTunes.
>>> I created a playlist but it put the whole thing in its own order, not the 
>>> one I wanted.
>>> Also, I couldn't find the place for burning to disk.
>>> I'm running the latest version of iTunes. Do I have to have a disk in the 
>>> drive to see the burn option?
>>> Blessings,
>>> Stacey and Geb dog Chesley
>>> stacey...@bellsouth.net
>>> 
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Re: Making cd's without using iTunes

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Well, Once you have selected the kind of disk you want to burn, you press the 
"add" button.  Here, a dialog box opens up which will allow you to add the 
files you wish to burn.  You should be familiar with this box because it's the 
standard finder open fild type of box.  As you VO+right after selecting your 
files, you will notice that Burn will give you the amount of disk space 
remaining on your blank CD for burning.  Just VO right and things will be 
fairly self explanatory, thus, requiring practically no instruction.


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On May 12, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Ray,
> I got the program and installed it.
> Can you give me tips on getting started burning music cd's?
> Step by step instructions are welcome.
> 
> On May 12, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Yes, there are.  My favorite is called "Burn".  Just google it and it comes 
>> right up.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Are there any free accessible programs for burning music to a cd other than 
>>> iTunes?
>>> I just can't figure it all out in iTunes.
>>> I created a playlist but it put the whole thing in its own order, not the 
>>> one I wanted.
>>> Also, I couldn't find the place for burning to disk.
>>> I'm running the latest version of iTunes. Do I have to have a disk in the 
>>> drive to see the burn option?
>>> Blessings,
>>> Stacey and Geb dog Chesley
>>> stacey...@bellsouth.net
>>> 
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Web Kit behaving badly?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hey out there.

Any of y'all having an issue when you try to open Web Kit?  I am.  Every single 
time I try to open Webkit, I get a nice little dialog which informs me that 
Webkit failed to open correctly and presents me with a continue or cancel 
button.  Anybody else notice this?  Just in case you are wondering, I have the 
latest update as of today.


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behavior of Web Kit resolved

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In the latest update to Web Kit, starting behavior that I reported on last 
night has seem to resolve.  Never mind.


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Re: where on earth was my file saved to!?

[Ray Foret Jr]

At a guess, I'd check the following:

1.  Your downloads folder.

2.  IF not, Documents seems to be a second default choice for Mail.

HTH.


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On May 18, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just had to work with a file that someone sent me as an email attachment.  
> My mac cleverly autosaved it somewhere, but I have absolutely no idea where.  
> This meant that when I had to send the file back to the other individual, I 
> was unable to find it.  Is there some way, when you're in a file, to see what 
> folder that file was created in?  I was working in Text Edit.
> Thanks,
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Re: From iDisk to SkyDrive

[Ray Foret Jr]

Cool.  What about sharing your files with other folks?  Say I put a file up 
there and want you or somebody else to have access to it?  Can that be done?  
Do we share folders like on Drop Box or else how does that work?


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On May 23, 2012, at 11:58 PM, Kliphton wrote:

> Us older hotmail users get 25 GB of free storage.  I love my sky drive, the 
> only issue I have, is when trying to open a document through the IOS app on 
> my iPhone 4s, it won't open.  I can look at what is there, but when I double 
> tap to open, nothing happens.  Any suggestions on why this is?
> On May 23, 2012, at 3:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Kawal,
>> 
>> I cannot speak as to the future plans of Apple.  I can only address what is
>> currently stated by them said statement indicating that iDisk will be
>> deactivated on June 30, 2012.
>> 
>> One can certainly sync iWork and/or iWork compatible documents to iCloud but
>> iCloud functionality differs greatly from an OS independent remote storage
>> medium.
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: From iDisk to SkyDrive
>> 
>> Hello Mark.
>> 
>> Thanks for your informative message.
>> 
>> I have the following questions.
>> 
>> 1. I thought you could put your documents in the Cloud.
>> 
>> 2.  Are you sure that Apple will not replace I disk with something else as I
>> understood they would be launching I disk again under a new form as Apple
>> were not sure what they would do with I disk.
>> 
>> Just my reflections.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 23 May 2012, at 03:03 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am cross posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries 
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 
>>> With the end of iDisk, Apple's cloud storage system that came into 
>>> being during the Mobile Me era, slated for June 30, 2012, I've been 
>>> searching for another cloud storage system that works equally well 
>>> with iOS devices, Macs, and Windows PCs.
>>> 
>>> I am delighted to report that Microsoft's SkyDrive is now completely 
>>> VoiceOver accessible and allows access to the SkyDrive directly from 
>>> Finder in OS X and from Explorer in Windows 7.  The iOS app is 
>>> VoiceOver accessible, simple, and easy to use.
>>> 
>>> Microsoft SkyDrive offers 7GB of free storage space, 2GB more than 
>>> does Apple's iCloud.
>>> 
>>> To those who may not know, iCloud, in its current implementation, does 
>>> not allow for non-iWork documents and/or non Apple file syncing nor 
>>> does it allow for direct access in Windows Explorer.  In short, 
>>> iCloud, unlike iDisk, is not meant to be used as a remote hard drive 
>>> to which you may place any kind of file.
>>> 
>>> To get SkyDrive on the computer platform of your choice, you will need 
>>> to download a free Microsoft utility that simply configures your 
>>> chosen system to see SkyDrive; it does not add any overhead to your 
>>> device unlike other free cloud storage options.
>>> 
>>> To get started, visit the app store on your iOS device and type in 
>>> SkyDrive or, from your favorite web browser in the OS of your choice, 
>>> go to http://skydrive.live.com
>>> 
>>> If you don't already have a Windows ID, you will need to create one.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: deleting a track in itunes

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Well, all you need do is this.

1.  Focus on the Music playlist in the sources table.

2.  Now, use VO+right to focus on  the content of that list.

3.  When you come to the song you wish to get rid of, just press the delete key.


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On Jun 9, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Walter Harper wrote:

> Hello listers,
> How do I delete a track or song from my library?
> Thanks in advance. 
> Walter 
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Re: importing vo-preffereces in osx-lion

[Ray Foret Jr]

Please be advised, this message has been misdirected to me.


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On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:35 AM, accessibil...@apple.com wrote:

> Please include the line below in follow-up emails for this request.
> 
> Follow-up:  196742241
> 
> William
> 
> You should report this to developer services.  All traffic with regard to 
> developer seeds must go to developer services.
> 
> There is no need to reply to this email.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> Hello,
> I was wondering if there is some progress about the problem described below.
> IN the last version of 10.8, build 12a178q, the problem wasn't solved...
> I have seen this because I am registered as a developer with the address: 
> william.wind...@telenet.be.
> Without a solution for this bug, I see no way to import my vo-prefs in my new 
> macbook I should buy for 10.8.
> 
> Anny comments are welcome,
> kind regards,
> William Windels
> 
> Op 29-mrt.-2012, om 20:45 heeft accessibil...@apple.com het volgende 
> geschreven:
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>> Please include the line below in follow-up emails for this request.
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>> Follow-up:  196742241
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>> Hello,
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>> Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you 
>> know that the problem you describe was recently reported to Apple, and we 
>> are currently investigating this issue. Unfortunately we cannot comment on 
>> when it may be resolved.
>> 
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Since 10.7, I wasn't able to import all my preferences and specially the 
>> trackpad commander-settings.
>> As developer, it seems not possible also in the current release of 10.8
>> In attachment, you can find a voprefs-file of my adjustments> I have created 
>> specific trackpad commands with the command- and shift-keys.  
>> It should be nice if you could import this settings and see if it works?
>> If you have any commands with the shift and command key, it should be fine 
>> since since this keys doesn't have any assignments by default.
>> 
>> This settings for the trackpad commander are made in 10.6 but, should also 
>> work in 10.7?
>> 
>> Any comments or hints should be great.
>> kind regards,
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>> 
>> 
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very suspicious Skype call yesterday

[Ray Foret Jr]

I just wanted to alert y'all all to a very suspicious Skype call I received 
yesterday while listening to the WWDC event.

I got a Skype call from someone or something that had the following.

1.  Upon ansewring the call, the US English Mike from AT&T voice came on and 
said that my computer's performance and speed were now less than average.  At 
the very beginning of the call, it gave some kind of ID number.  The voice then 
switched over to the Neo speech Paul voice where it advised to go to:
www.fixfg.com
to scan and repair my computer.  
Folks, I suspect that something nasty tried to infect me by trying to 
pursuade me to go to a web sight that had something rather unsavery on it.  I 
did not go there nor did I google it.  I have never received such a call before 
and I think something very unpleasant may be floating around on Skype.  Be ware.


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an update on the Skype call

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

 Earlier, I sent a message about a skype call I got informing me that my system 
was below average in performance and so forth.  Well, I just now received a 
call from the same Sype ID.  It's:
la.mainten.0 
It just tried to call me again even as I'm sending this message.  I really 
think something nasty is going on with Skype!  Be ware.


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Re: an update on the Skype call

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yeah, gee, thanks Microsoft.


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On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Debbie Worstman wrote:

> I too have gotten this same call twice. Like you I did not go to the web
> site.
> This did make me worry about Skype.   
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:09 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: an update on the Skype call
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Earlier, I sent a message about a skype call I got informing me that my
> system was below average in performance and so forth.  Well, I just now
> received a call from the same Sype ID.  It's:
> la.mainten.0 
> It just tried to call me again even as I'm sending this message.  I really
> think something nasty is going on with Skype!  Be ware.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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other ITunes Libraries

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi there y'all.

Sometimes, when I try to synch my Iphone, that goes wel; but, I get a dialog 
that says "Your Iphone is currently synched to another ITunes Library.  Do you 
want to erase all the contents of your phone and synch with another library?  
So far as I am aware, there is only one  ITunes library on my system; that 
found in the
~/Music folder.  How do I find out which library my Iphone is synched to and 
choose which one I really want so I can manually move stuff over to it and get 
rid of all the ones I don't want?


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Re: Hints in VO

[Ray Foret Jr]

1.  Press VO+F8 to enter Voice Over Utilities.

2.  From there, navigate to the "Vebocity" item in the main table.

3.  Now, navigate to the hints tab and press VO+space on it.  YOu want to 
uncheck the firs item there.

HTH.

 PS.  You might also want to look at changing some of the other items there to 
better suit you.


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On Jun 13, 2012, at 6:51 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi,
> Where do I go to turn off hints in VO. I couldn't find it in the voiceover 
> utilities, but I know it's got to be there, and I'm just missing it.
> Thanks,
> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: very suspicious Skype call yesterday

[Ray Foret Jr]

I ain't figured out how to block those calls except by changing my privacy 
settings to receive calls only from my Skype contacts.


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On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Can ya not block the contact that is initiating the call?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: very suspicious Skype call yesterday
> 
> 
>> Yes, I've been getting the phone calls to my Skype in number where they tell 
>> me the computer is infected. I never used to get those, but I just hang up 
>> on them. I wonder how one gets that to stop?
>> - Original Message - From: "chris hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: very suspicious Skype call yesterday
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Ray and all. I would treat the call like any cell phone. Just
>> hang up the moment it is jubious.
>> 
>> On 12/06/2012 12:55, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> I just wanted to alert y'all all to a very suspicious Skype call I received 
>>> yesterday while listening to the WWDC event.
>>> 
>>> I got a Skype call from someone or something that had the following.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Upon ansewring the call, the US English Mike from AT&T voice came on 
>>> and said that my computer's performance and speed were now less than 
>>> average.  At the very beginning of the call, it gave some kind of ID 
>>> number.  The voice then switched over to the Neo speech Paul voice where it 
>>> advised to go to:
>>> www.fixfg.com
>>> to scan and repair my computer.
>>> Folks, I suspect that something nasty tried to infect me by trying to 
>>> pursuade me to go to a web sight that had something rather unsavery on it. 
>>> I did not go there nor did I google it.  I have never received such a call 
>>> before and I think something very unpleasant may be floating around on 
>>> Skype.  Be ware.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: Creating a Daisy Book On The Mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

I know of something called Daisy Pipeline.  It seems accessible but I can't 
work out how to use it.


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On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> Hello,
>   Does anybody know of an accessible way to create your own Daisy books 
> on the Mac?  I am interested in converting some of my own writings into Daisy 
> books for use on either my iPhone or my Mac.
> 
> Scott Rumery
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Re: Creating a Daisy Book On The Mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

I would like to use it to create Daisy books out of a collection of mp3 files.  
I've read the manual but it ain't no help at all.


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On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>   If you can figure it out, please provide some tips.  I have tried to use 
> it, but I continuously get failures.  I know it is a case of user error and 
> not the application though.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Scott Rumery wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Ray, I will give it a look.
>> 
>> Scott
>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> I know of something called Daisy Pipeline.  It seems accessible but I can't 
>>> work out how to use it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Scott Rumery wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>>Does anybody know of an accessible way to create your own Daisy books 
>>>> on the Mac?  I am interested in converting some of my own writings into 
>>>> Daisy books for use on either my iPhone or my Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott Rumery
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Re: Apple's Mountain Lion New Features Page

[Ray Foret Jr]

Then why tell us it's missing.

Don't you think that's kind of scating on the edge?


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On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi.
> I should hope it'll change. there's one feature in accessibility that I know 
> about that is missing. For obvious reasons, I can't tell you what that 
> missing feature is.
> On 2012-06-15, at 9:18 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> I wouldn't be surprised if this page changes before the next release.
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: O/T Where is Web Visum?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Gone for good I'm afraid.  The domain is up for sale.


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On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Cameron Strife wrote:

> Hi. I'm not sure what's going on, but, since last night, every time I
> launch firefox, I get a message saying that there was a server
> connection error regarding the web visum plug in. I really hope it's
> not gone for good as it's such a useful tool.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/21/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> It hasn't been pirated, has it? Just asking, because I volunteer for
>> readassist.org, which had to be reclaimed recently.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes, unfortunately, Webvisum is gone,.
>>> This is a sad, sad day for the visually impaired.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:27 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: O/T Where is Web Visum?
>>> 
>>> Guys:
>>> It looks like Web Visum is no more. The domain expired on the 19th.
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Re: an accessable way of navigating dvd menues on the mac?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Daniel is quite correct.  There is no way of navigating menus on a DVD using a 
Mac.  The version FS has is; as I understand it, not much good at all.  the 
issue is this.  Because of the way in which DVD menus are colded in to the 
disk, (often not text but pictures of text) and the layering infolved, it just 
ain't possible.


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On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Unfortunately, there's not. That's one area where I must give Freedom
> Scientific credit, they've come up with a way for Windows users to
> accomplish that task.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:38 AM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: an accessable way of navigating dvd menues on the mac?
> 
> hey all my question to you is this, is there an accessable way of navigating
> dvd menus on the mac?
> 
> your help with this question would be most welcome!
> 
> kind regards trahern.
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