Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.
the recent update seems to have made both boot time and general responsiveness better for me. My computer was very frustrating to use since upgrading to Lion and now it's fine. Much less of the "busy" message overall. Joel On 2/6/2012 9:42 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it, and are working on a fix, at last response from the support people. Things like this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow. Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what you guys are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down the OS, for something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if it takes them a bit longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing the issue. Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system requirements state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the bear least you can get away with and run Lion, but with some slowness. Ram can have a factor in boot times, as well as hard drive speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so be aware of that fact as well. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted. Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm using a 2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model number is, and I'm guessing your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the same for my boot time. More annoying for me than the slow boot time, though, is that under lion, VO startup is hit and miss at best. When lion first came out, it always got stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That got fixed, only to be replaced by the fact that if VO starts talking by itself at all, I'm stuck in a window called speech synthesis server. In all the time I've run lion, it's never landed me on the desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and more often than not, I have to press command-tab before VO says anything at all. So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've tried everything I can think of to solve the problem, but nothing seems to make a difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external drive which I still use to boot into Snow Leopard when necessary runs faster than Lion, and that's just wrong. So, like you, I'm wondering if there's any point in reporting this to apple, or if it's something that taking my macbook to an apple store might fix. I've just learned to live with it, but it's very strange, especially since Snow Leopard boots so much faster and always reliably starts on the desktop. If you ever find a way to speed up lion's boot time, please share as I'd love to get this issue resolved somehow. Thanks! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted. Hi everyone. I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs? I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43 seconds. I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard. I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space, repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc. Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or calling Apple Care on this issue. Let me know what you think. Thanks and have a great evening, Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.googl
Re: Apple may have done a number on themselves.
Can't PC owner. It's been beaten in to us for decades now. Relax, that thing about putting the customer first... it's true. It'll all be just fine. On 7/28/2011 11:05 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, how do you know they don't have some white macbooks in reserve just for the reason you stated? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter& Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, I have a friend who has just informed me that Apple as of the release of Lion is no longer making, nor selling refurbished or not, the white plain macbooks. Now, all they're selling in the laptop style is either the two sizes of Macbook Airs, or if you want a full laptop, then the Eluminum Macbook Pro. Not that this really per sey is a major issue for newcomers, except the price will obviously be more, which leads me to my question. What about people like myself? I got my macbook back in April. It's not a Pro. It's just a stocked white 13 inch. So, God forbid that thing ever stops working during my year warranty, but hypotheticly, let's just say that it did. I'm not in the least impressed with the Macbook airs. Not even the 13 inch model. It's just not at all compreble for what I need. So, don't tell me I'd be either forced to get an air, seeing that they're at equal price, or pay more to get a Pro. Why should we pay more for something under warranty, and furthermore, more for a product replacing the one we already have. It's not our falt that they decided to quit making a good product. What is Apple's deal lately! First it's the accessibility bugs in Lion, now this? I hope my friend's assumption is incorrect, but he clamed he called Apple and asked them. Does anyone know? Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Just my thoughts regarding CCC Carbon Copy Cloner
Hi, I used CCC when I switched to a larger disk before installing Lion. It worked great. I'm actting because folks have said that Super Duper is accessible. I tried several times to get it to work for me, and I did read one or two screen ssuccessfully, but in general, I found myself doing battle with the "busy demon" and generally having a problem getting anything out of the app. I have tried it several times. I wonder if there is a VO setting which I have wrong or something. Joel On 7/7/2011 1:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Thanks for this. I installed CCC a couple of weeks ago, but haven't actually tried to use it yet. I'm sure I'll be checking it out before Lion happens; am especially hoping that using something like CCC will preserve my app preferences for Adium and things of that nature. I have a little external hard drive that I just got for the mac. I've used it for time machine backups; can I use that same drive with CCCas well? I still don't understand everything about the mac, so will probably still ask stupid questions from time to time. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Just my thoughts regarding CCC Carbon Copy Cloner Hello List, JUst some thoughts on prepairing for Lion. I set up CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) and I really love it. It's extremely easy to use and it's 100% accessible for VO users. Not only is it easy to make a complete clone, or a incremental backup, it's also really easy to boot from and use it on the external drive. The log details are well written andeasy to understand. Restoring the original drive is also really easy to do. CCC is produced on a shareware kind of concept and it uses a donation request field. This is available within CCC as well as on the site. http://www.bombich.com/ So, why am I posting this? In light of Lion's upcoming launch, I just wanted to really be prepared. No matter what you use as a backup utility, CCC or Super Duper or any other backup package, I strongly suggest that you cover all bases and be completely ready for the new exciting move to Lion! Dan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scrivner
Hi, I don't have the most up-to-date version of the application, but it works fine for me. It's been a great product for breaking down story ideas and outlining, etc. Good Luck, Joel On 8/5/2011 8:55 AM, Max wrote: Thanks. I'll try the trial and report back on my experience with it. Scott Howell wrote: I hope that perhaps the dev will look at making the iOS version accessible as well. I gather it is not currently very accessible, but maybe my information is incorrect. On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Max, Has anyone had extensive experience with Scrivner 2? I really want to use it, but i'm not going to buy it if it is not accessible with Voice Over. I don't know what in your opinion means extensive experience but for me it works well. The author recently added a lot of stuff and now for me it works really fine with VoiceOver. The easiest way for you should be to try the demo version of Scrivener. That's not available in the Mac App Store but in the web: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/index.php Regards Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
how is the focus point handled with braille displays on the Mac? the the character just spoken the one with the "cursor" ? this seems problematic, as it is usually shown under the character and not to the left o or to the right of the character? seems problematic... Joel On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have > the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try > to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one > way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page > that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by > the possibility of Ibooks. > > Best, > > > Erik Burggraaf > User support consultant, > Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > Toll-free: 888-255-5194 > > On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there >> doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the >> page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once >> I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to >> the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering >> if anyone's found an easier way to do this. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Move addict now completely accessible
Heya, So, I'm trying to install this program, and the initial run brings up a screen which seems to have no controls. I assumed this was a vo problem, so I restarted vo. and when that didn't work, I restarted the machine. I'm still not seeing how to make the installation happen. thoughts? Joel On Jul 6, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi list, > > After a few back and forth mails, the developer of move addict has made his > application completely accessible. > > Move addict allows the user to cut and paste system wide and in finder, as an > add-on. > > Here is the link: > http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict.html > > > The guy is pretty cool, and took this endeavor seriously So i suggest you > guys help him continue to make software with a conscious approach to > accessibility. And moveaddict rocks anyway :) > > Cheers > > > Yuma DX® > > > > "Light has no value without darkness" > > blog: http://www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: spotlight search is wonderful!
spotlight is like a stripped down version of quicksilver. alas, most of qs is accessible except the list of files which presents a small problem... If anyone has found a way around this, please let me know. On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Oh, that's cool! I never knew that. thanks! > Donna > On Jul 9, 2010, at 2:56 AM, John André Netland wrote: > >> Yes, but you can also use Spotlight to get definitions for words. Write any >> word in the search field, and you will get a definition list with related >> words and a description/explanation of the term. Try for example with the >> word hilarious and see the result. Also, you can use Spotlight as a quick >> calculator. Write 2+2 or 24/8 in the search field, and you will get the >> result 2+2=4 and 24/8=3. >> >> John André >> >> >> >> On 9. juli 2010, at 02.11, Josh Kennedy wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I just used spotlight search to look for a file I lost and didn't know >>> where it was. it was a piece of cake to use and it works great! I love it! >>> I think its superior to the windows xp search. >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> Josh Kennedy >>> jkenn...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Launch bar accesability request, can you guys help out
Hi, I will check this out, but it does sound a great deal like quicksilver. which used to be more accessible than it is now... Is anyone having better luck than I with using QS? Joel On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Alfredo Holguin wrote: > I would like to request that all board members sent the following > message to the posted email to request greater accessibility to the > launch bar application. This application lets you open WebPages, > application, recently worked on documents from application such as > Text edit, or works and the like, select and paste from a history of > clipboard items, play a iTunes album or song without having to open > iTunes, and index folders of your choice so that you can search those > folders fast. This is like a spotlight search, but to the second > power. It makes using your Mac way better. If you have or have used, > the feature of jaws, where you press, Insert spacebar, then the R key, > then type in search term to search on a dictionary, or Wikipedia, then > you will like this program. This program lets you search your > dictionary application, Google search, and the Wikipedia site, among > other sites, through one window. This makes using your Mac way > efficient. The application runs for 35 dollars. It might sound > expensive, but it is well worth it. Seems like everyone here knows > how to use their mac here, to this will only enhance their Mac > experience so that they have more time for other things, like playing > with your child, being with your family, etc. I am not affiliated > with the developer of this program; I just want it to be more > accessible. I have sent the below message to them. However, since > more attention will be given to this problem if more people point out > the flaws of this program with voice over, we can get accessibility > faster. I would greatly appreciated if you sent the following message > to the below email. This email is there support email. If you have > questions of how to use the program, just let me know, although it is > limited right now, I am able to use it. > Alfredo > > Email the following to: > launch...@obdev.at > > > Topic: Question / Technical Problem > Product Version: 5.2 > Operating System: 10.6 > CPU: Intel > > I am an apple voice over user and have a few questions and concerns > regarding your launch bar application. I am one of the thousands of > blind users that have switched to the Mac from windows, and learned > from your application from the Mac power user podcasts, and decided > that if my apple experience was to be productive then I had to get > launch bar. I was not sure if the program was going to be accessible, > but I tried it, and have count a few bumps on the way. At the first > the program was totally inaccessible, the only 2 items that voice over > recognized on the dash board window, where , the “checkbox” (which was > a checkbox, and “button”, which was a button that if I pressed gave me > menu options such as preferences, quit, etc. I then started messing > around the preferences window of launch bar and, checked the box, > “speak selected item” checkbox in the general area of the launch bar > preferences. This enabled me to hear all he search results that I was > getting when blindly typing into the launch bar search field. After > this I found out that if I pressed the launch bar hotkey, which I > configured to control-space, and launch bar was already running, I > would be in in the launch bar window, then, although Voice over was > unable to “see”, what I was trying on the search edit field, I was > able to use it since I would get results when typing in websites, > like, google.com, or, text, and then selecting the text edit > application, then pressing space bar to see the list of previously > open documents. Then I manage to look at my clipboard list. My > concerns are the following: > > 1. I use voice over at a faster speech rate, than the speed at which > you have your default when you checkbox the “speak selected item” > option of the general preferences of the launch bar preferences. > Because of this, it takes longer, thus it is less efficient, for me to > use launch bar. If the speech rate is slow, a keystroke pressed, such > as tab to move between the search results, takes longer. It would be > a great option to either have the launch bar voice speed, be the same > as the Voice over speech speed configured by the user account that is > using the launch bar application. Alternatively, you can have a > slider in the general preferences of launch bar, preferably after, the > checkbox, “speak selected item”, checkbox that would increase the > speech rate speed of launch bar. This is a deal breaker for me, > meaning that if this feature cannot be implementing, then I cannot use > launch bar to its full potential and would have to look elsewhere for > alternatives to such a great program. > 2.Inaccessible text edit field, on the launch bar wi
Re: accessible screen sharing software
well, there is the multiple braille display option. that's sort of screen sharing. On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > No. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chad baker > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:26 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: accessible screen sharing software > > Hi is there any accessible screen sharing apps? > Not sure if this has been covered. > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: remote access from IPod.
I have been thinking this would be great to have myself. I've also heard that gotomypc works via ipad and iphone. this is a web-based thingie. I have also mused that getting braille to work through the network wouldn't be so hard since it works so well via bluetooth. We live in interesting times and I would think this will be a very desirable thing in thenear future. Joel On Jun 3, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > Morning listers. > > I'm having crazy thoughts of laziness. > > I wondered if anyone has tried using an RDP / Remote desktop connection > tool between an Ipod touch and either a mac book pro or even better in the > case of my server, windows server 2k8? > > Some sighted friends have tried it and it works, but most rdp tools for the > ipod don't appear to have sound / audio enabled in them and I wondered if > anyone has ever had a try at this sort of thing. > > Thanks for any help on this. > > Cheers > > Simon f > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Droids and Macs
Hi, I have used missing sync for both symbian and windows mobile. it's a good program. Depending on just what you want to be syncing, you could do it wirelessly through google. sync your mac with google and your phone with google although that sort of happens automatically because there is a google account connected to the android phone.? I think? if not, then setting it to also sync to google by all rights ought to work flawlessly. I do this with all of my phones pdas and my computer. I only sync for backup purposes and to cram more books on the iphone. Joel On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just got a Droid today, the LG Ally, in fact. Will that sync with my Mac? > If so, how do I go about this process? > Thanks In Advance, > Courtney > > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at > 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Droids and Macs
I know the original android phone from TMobile showed up as a disk on my mac. I wouldn't know about current models, but I'd be shocked if it didn't work that way. Joel >> >> >> >> Depending on just what you want to be syncing, you could do it wirelessly >> through google. >> sync your mac with google and your phone with google although that sort >> of happens automatically because there is a google account connected to the >> android phone.? I think? >> >> if not, then setting it to also sync to google by all rights ought to work >> flawlessly. >> >> I do this with all of my phones pdas and my computer. I only sync for >> backup purposes and to cram more books on the iphone. >> >> Joel >> >> On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I just got a Droid today, the LG Ally, in fact. Will that sync with my Mac? >>> If so, how do I go about this process? >>> Thanks In Advance, >>> Courtney >>> >>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >>> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
the only thng I seem to be doing under windows these days is using webvisum under firefox. also, sites using flash are slightly more usable with firefox under windows. I look forward to the day when I can free up all of that disk space. Joel On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi Andy, I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder than > it looks. > > In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that > all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up to > his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange. > > Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to > set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his > virtual machine. Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall > back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is > an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing. > That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good > job of exchange. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. > Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and > subscribe. > > On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: > >> From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have >> to use Windows for many tasks. I guess that shows that the Mac still has a >> way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer >> productivity. >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively >> >> Ok, that works. >> >> There's always open office as well. I have VM Fusion working correctly >> though so that's a good solution. >> >> On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote: >> >>> Hi. Office on the mac is not vo accessible. Office, if you must use >>> it, will work fine on the windows side. >>> >>> Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet? I know you can use pop3 >>> and imap. >>> >>> Cameron. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have installed the mac version of MS Office. Is this accessable? >>> It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new >>> messages or replying / responding seems problematic. Any tricks here >>> or should I just use office under windows? My reason for using office >>> is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your >>> protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled. >>> >>> Comments? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@
Re: joining the mac squad.
what are you going to do with all of that time you used to spend complaining about Windows? On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > I whole heartedly agree. > > For me I spent a solid day and got down the basics. It grows on you and soon > enough you'll be realizing just how good the Mac is. > > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Carolyn wrote: > >> Ian: Welcome, just put on your big boy pants and dive in. The watter's a >> little choppy at first, but you'll be sailing smoothly in no time:) >> >> Carolyn >> - Original Message - >> From: ian mcnamara >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:21 AM >> Subject: joining the mac squad. >> >> hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad >> going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. >> >> also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will >> help me with it tommorrow. >> >> ian mcnamara. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: new iphone update first impression
can you post the exact steps to replicate this? I'm not having any trouble at all. thanks, Joel On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I thought htye had that fixed? I heard complaining from several beta testers > about this but yeah email apple access about this. > > Take care. > > S > On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:22 PM, joseph wrote: > >> hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered >> that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the >> letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the >> letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble. i would email >> accessibility with these findings. >> >> best >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: duo core or i5 in mbp
there are certified Apple Resalers who will reconfigure a stock Apple machine for you. I believe Choice 1 Media? is one. just an example, not a recommendation. They do specialize in gear for recording though. Joel On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > hi, > > I'll be using this for lectures, some language stuff, and also possibly for > recording music with logic or garage band down the line. My concern is future > proofing. Unfortunately, you can't get the 7200 rpm harddrives in the 13 inch > mbp's or I'd just go duo with a better harddrive. > > Gotta love apple's packaged deal options, instead of letting you configure > your heart out. > MJ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ipad speaker hiss
Hi, I can do you one better. You don't actually need to e-mail the notes to yourself. If you have a gmail account, you can sync the notes and it will happen for you automatically, once you get back online through wifi. I'd forgotten I set this up and suddenly my notes started showing up in my mailbox. There's probably a way to control where they show up in the tree structure of mail. I would think this would work just fine, especially now that the keyboard control has improved dramatically. Best, Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To Joel Zimba
yeah clearly... thanks... not sure what's up with my mail... or is it just user error. odd. On Sep 12, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Joel! > I think you used the wrong subject heading! > The thread might not get your post! > But maybe some might. > Colin :-] > On 12 Sep 2010, at 22:59, Joel Zimba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I can do you one better. You don't actually need to e-mail the notes to >> yourself. If you have a gmail account, you can sync the notes and it will >> happen for you automatically, once you get back online through wifi. I'd >> forgotten I set this up and suddenly my notes started showing up in my >> mailbox. >> >> There's probably a way to control where they show up in the tree structure >> of mail. >> >> I would think this would work just fine, especially now that the keyboard >> control has improved dramatically. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Joel >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Thunderbird 3 for OSX not accessible
I think Thunderbird il continue to be basically inaccessible until the Firefox accessibility issues are fixed. I would think they would trickle down to Thunderbird in time as happened on the windows side. I used to use Thunderbird and it was a great mail program. Joel On Dec 14, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I noticed that the final 3.0 release of Thunderbird 3 for MacOSX came > out last week. Last I read the betas were not accessible with Voiceover > (just MSAA/Windows). Has anyone tried the real release and found any > difference? > > CB > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jailbreaking your IPhone?
Yes I have jailbroken in the past. It is not currently jb-ed. There is no effect on VO or on the phone in any way. No bricking. It is unlikely if not entirely imposible with the new procedures. Very easy and straightforward. Unless you have a specific need, I don't necessarily recommend taking the time as many apps are not that accessible and the cidia app may still not be accessible. note that I said may I've not checked it out for a while. The keyboard thing is getting me interested though. Joel On Dec 29, 2009, at 2:24 AM, Jess wrote: > Hi all IPhone users, > > Have any of you jailbroken your IPhone? If so, did it impact VoiceOver at > all? Did it cause your IPhone to become a brick? What are the benefits of > Jailbreaking? > Jess > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Possible nez browser replacement for Safari
or you could just run it and find out., which is doubtless much faster than doing research of a more intellectual sort. On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > Before I would even download Sunrise or any other browser, I'd first check if > it was compatible with the Apple Accessibility API as, while it may not have > the same bugs one might find in Safari, it may perform terribly with > VoiceOver. > > cdh > On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:41 PM, james.austin1...@googlemail.com wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> If you go to: >> www.opensourcemac.org >> >> On the second page, you'll find a web browser called Sunrise. It is an >> open source browser based on WebKit. I have not had the opportunity to >> try this as I am not currently on my Mac. I just thought I'd pass it >> on considering that there have been some Safari issues. However, it >> does seem as if a lot of these have been cleared up since the 10.6.2 >> update. >> >> TC >> >> James >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: another facebook question - Farmville?
I have not played Farmville, but I did spend quite a lot of time a month or so back annoying all of my friends by playing mafia wars. They are both Xinga games and roughly the same as far as I know. I was actually faster playing it on the mac bacause of the rotor and the item chooser. Also, the way the live region updates worked seemed better in Safari. Thats also where I noticed that the Trackpad commander makes me feel like a God. Joel On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on Facebook? > TIA, > Donna > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: sending messages on Facebook
Hi, I had this problem when I first got my Mac. It went away with the new versions of Safari or with 10.6.2. I don't remember which. If you are still having it, I would try making sure you have installed the latest Safari perhaps by downloading it from apple rather than by using the automated tool. Other than that, I have no idea. It works fine for me and has for at least a couple of months. Joel On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > Every time I try to send someone a message on Facebook, I type a line or two, > and then I get dumped out of Safari altogether. I see the Reopen button, but > when I reopen of course my message is gone. I don't know whether this is a > VO problem or a Mac problem. I do know that this never happens to me on my > Windows machine. Has anyone else had this experience, and just maybe found a > solution? > TIA, > Donna > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Maverick or Madman? Trying to Get BrailleLite Millennium To Work On My MacBook Pro
Heya Mark, I forgot what it is like to wonder if something will work in the Mac world. Here is a suggestion if you have problems. I would get the newest possible firmware... duh. getting it on there cold actually be a problem these days, but youre a bright guy. If you have problems connecting, I recall there were some setting on the notetaker which would emulate other hardware. Giving that a go might help. I'm not sure where VO gets it's braille progiles (meaning for the hardware, not for the translation tables) For all I know these haven't changed much over the years, as really, braille displays aren't rocket science and a protocol is a protocol is a protocol. Now I'm speculating about using something like brltty and emulating a recognized device through software... that could be fun. Let me know what you come up with. best, Joel On May 20, 2010, at 4:19 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Apple Family, > > As the subject line suggests, I would like to have my BrailleLite Millennium > serve as a Braille display on my MacBook. > > For those of you who may be too young to remember, the Millennium is an old > Serial bus device. Be that as it may, using a USB to Serial adaptor cable, > the device works perfectly on any Windows computer. > > In doing some research, I have discovered that there are many people using > USB to Serial adaptor cables to connect various Serial devices such as > weather stations and printers to Snow Leopard with complete success. The > trick, it seems, is to locate an adaptor with the correct Snow Leopard > drivers. This I can do. > > So, assuming I can get the correct cable, any thoughts on if VoiceOver will > recognize the BrailleLite? > > Any thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated. > > Mark > > > > > > > ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! > In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the > world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen > or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will > find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and > wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. > > You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, > or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required > to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the > world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during > the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. > > Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! > > Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, > at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the > next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via > computer and more, go to: > http://candleshore.com/secrets > Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! > > "Express yourself completely, then keep quiet." > "He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't > go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself > can't know who she really is. He who has power over others can't empower > himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures." > (Lao Tzu) > > For infinite knowledge, go to: > candleshoreblog.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webpage autorefresh and Voiceover
I have the same problem. I'm wondering if there is a way I can disable it with my own style sheet or some such. This makes some sites unusable. Joel On May 26, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: > Hi again, > So I went to a website which seems to refresh every 20 or 30 seconds. I'll > get down the page, and then when it refreshes, it sends voiceover right back > to the top. I looked in the voiceover utility under both navigation and web, > and I found nothing to disable page autorefresh. Am I missing some command > somewhere? > > Friendly, > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: haptic film
interesting? you think it would be interesting? either my head would explode or I would cry wrote: > That would be interesting if we could read braille with this technology. I > think it is to early to say at this point. I think in theory you could do so > however. > > Doug > > On 2010-06-01, at 7:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > >> Ah, but could you do braille? >> >> Jon >> >> >> On 01/06/2010, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>> Speaking of this technology, I was listening to a BBC program and the >>> announcer indicated that a company called Immersion was or has come out with >>> a haptic iPhone sleeve. Has anyone else heard of this? I looked at the >>> companies web site located at http://www.immersion.com/ but could not find >>> any information on this there either. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> On 2010-06-01, at 1:27 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: >>> http://bit.ly/bQtFwb They are the inventors of the E-sense, the thin film which allows for haptic interaction through low frequency electric modulation. I spoke to one of their guys who said that developement and SDK phase aren't entirely mapped out yet as they are negotiating with various device makers, but i am hoping to be in the loop on this one for the current projects we are having at our studio. Interesting concept, which was discussed a year back. Best Yuma DX® -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically
regarding the change in the download window in Safari, this has in fact been changed. I think a different ui control is being used to display the information. there is probably a way to get vo to automatically interract, but I'm not sure I would want that behavior... gotta think o that. Joel On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Laura M wrote: > Yeah, I can confirm this, too. I agree that it's far more likely to be > a bug or an oversight, because it's not the only thing that needs > interaction now that didn't before. The downloads list in Safari won't > read the status anymore unless you interact. I can't see any reason > for changing that. > > On Jun 16, 1:21 pm, "M. Taylor" wrote: >> Thank you for confirming this, Kevin. I was beginning to think it had all >> been in my imagination. I hardly think of this as a new feature, however; >> more like an oversight. As written in a previous message, later today, I >> will turn in a bug report to the development team. >> >> Mark >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: >> >> >> >>> My e-mails used to read automatically too. I guess this is a new feature. >> >>> Kev >>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Control option j takes you to the preview pane and the message is then read automatically. vo j back to the message list. But I thought Mark said he didn't use the preview pane. >> mary >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Changing to Karen on the Iphone
it will be much easier tomorrow On Jun 20, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Well, I can live with that. Samantha sounds like a mad robot. LOL > Drives me crazy. Karen is a welcome change. :) > On Jun 20, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: > >> Hi Kimberly, >> >> I don't think so. THe only thing it changes is the way the date is >> pronounced. Instead of saying June 19, Karen will say 19 June. >> Have a great day. >> Allison >> >> On Jun 20, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: >> >>> I did this as well on the iPod Touch. Does it change anything else, such >>> as time zone, etc.? >>> On Jun 19, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> actually mine took place right away. Thanks for this though. that sounds much better! S On Jun 19, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi all, > > I just figured out from Donna and another friend of mine who has an Ipod > Touch how to change to Karen on the Iphone. I would assume it's the same > for the Ipod. I thought I'd post the steps here in case anyone else > dislikes Samantha as much as I do. For some reason, when you switch the > region from U.S. to Australia, it doesn't change the time setting like in > the UK regions. THank goodness for that. To change the voice on the > Iphone/Ipod do the following: > 1. Go to settings > 2. Double-tap general > 3. Double-tap international and then swipe down to get the list of > countries to display. I had to do this a few times before I found > Australia. Once you find it, just double-tap and then press home. The > next time you turn on your Iphone, you will have Karen's pleasant voice > coming out of your speaker. I hope this helps someone. Have a great day, > all. > > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iBooks issue on iPod touch and possibly iPhone
hang on, when you say the button to buy a book, which one do you mean? do you mean the button labelled "buy" when you are reading a sample, or do you mean the one that says "get book" or whatever in the store? I have not tried the former. Joel On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've noticed an undesirable happening with iBooks on my touch. Upon double > tapping the button to buy a book, it doesn't seem to work and that button > disappears. When I tap and hold until the pass-through noise is heard, I can > get it to go past the book info screen. > > So far, I've had one other person confirm it on her iPhone and wonder if > anyone else with iPod touches and/or iPhones wouldn't mind trying this out. > If you find the same, I reckon we should report it to Apple > > Thanks, > Blake > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading a long pdf: vo vs spoken word in itunes
I did notice that I have a few pdfs in my books section of itunes. I'm not sure how I got them there... nor what to do with them exactly, it would be great if ibooks learned to read them, as I'm more and more impressed with it as I play. J On Jun 21, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Catherine Kudlick wrote: > Hi All, > Someone just sent me a long book manuscript as a pdf. If I wanted to read it > on the go on my ipod touch, what's the best way to do it? Should I use > voiceover? Or is it true that it's possible to convert the pdf to a spoken > word text that I could access through itunes? If so, how do I do this? And > is it easier to use in itunes than in VO? For example, can you set the pace > of speech in these itunes files or mark your place? > > Also, can what I read be sync-ed between devices? For example if I start > reading it on my Macbook Pro but then want to pick up on my ipod, would it > sync to where I left off? > > Thanks so much, cathy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: tip: how I delete podcasts from the ipod app
Hi, Well, I can successfully delete a podcast from ipod. I would love to be able to do the swipe for the deletion of mail messages. I hear this is a feature available without vo. I tried the same thing as described for ipod, and nothing seemed to happen. after doing it several times, a "done" button appeared. I clicked it and nothing seemed to change. thoughts? On Jun 22, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok all. Here is my method of deleting podcasts on the iphone. Not sure where > else this works in the ipod app but yeah. > > 1. from within the ipod app navigate to the podcast button and double tap. > > 2. Now browse to the podcast such as market place, or car talk for example. > > 3. find the episode you want to delete, double tap and hold then swipe very > slowly to the right. it should take you no more then 2 seconds to do this. > Now check and it should say confirm deletion of xxx where xxx is your > episode name. > > 4. double tap that episode and it is gone. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mozilla Firefox to drop support for OSX 10.4
actually, Dropping 10.4 support will probably make it more accessible ultimately. There is an implication that the underlying layers upon which Firefox runs will be dependent on 10.5. Chances are, this means the low level building blocks for accessibility will be more reliable. You'd have to ask one of the developers for sure, but in the grand scheme of things, I think this hints of good things. Joel On Feb 8, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Not that it's accessible anyway, but if they did get it working you wouldn't > be able to run it on OSX 10.4. Only OSX 10.5 or higher will be acceptable. > > http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/355360/mozilla-to-turn-its-back-on-tiger > > http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/7d3a647586bab993# > > CB > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
definitions immediately listed on spotlight and other methods
Hi List, I have started being trigger-happy with the spotlight features which i tweaked for my liking, and though i really like the possibilities, i'd prefer going through another method which i haven't been able to emulate. Here is the following method: When you have a word in text edit or mail or any 64 bit enabled app that you want to define or find synonyms for, the sighted user can highlight the word and press command shift D and click to get an instant popup of the above listed definition+synonyms. I've tried this but i get nothing appearing nor any sounds which let me know that i've accessed the feature. I've assigned root mouse cursor to VO cursor on my trackpad so that i can do the job quickly but nothing happens. Has anyone been luckier in this manipulation? It would be an amazing shortcut when writing long papers. Thanks, and best Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 blog: www.theblindsamurai.com twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: definitions immediately listed on spotlight and other methods
In your message, I highlighted the word "features". I did this with shift-option-rightarrow. I then hit vo-shift-m and the menu gave me the option to look up the definition. this brings up a windows with dictionary and thesaurus options. the definition is in an html area. Is this different from what you were talking about? Joel On Feb 19, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi List, > > I have started being trigger-happy with the spotlight features which i > tweaked for my liking, and though i really like the possibilities, i'd prefer > going through another method which i haven't been able to emulate. Here is > the following method: > > When you have a word in text edit or mail or any 64 bit enabled app that you > want to define or find synonyms for, the sighted user can highlight the word > and press command shift D and click to get an instant popup of the above > listed definition+synonyms. > > I've tried this but i get nothing appearing nor any sounds which let me know > that i've accessed the feature. > > I've assigned root mouse cursor to VO cursor on my trackpad so that i can do > the job quickly but nothing happens. > > Has anyone been luckier in this manipulation? > > It would be an amazing shortcut when writing long papers. > > Thanks, and best > > > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > blog: www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interesting article on bionic sight
yeah, bring on the brown acid! On Feb 19, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > well for retinal/corneal disorders I think this is possible, but for optic > nerve disorders like mine I think it's gonna take a little more. So I think > I'll be enjoying synesthesia for probably the rest of my life :) > > On Feb 19, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > >> http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/02/19/2031207/The-Blind-Shall-See-Again-But-When?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 >> >> >> Special notice to the promised resolution within a decade. They talk about >> VGA. That's the resolution of a youtube video in 256 colors. If this becomes >> true, it will provide in say 15 years a near XVGA resolution for people who >> could benefit from the technology. >> >> Considering also that unification of results from labs working on this+new >> materials for miniaturization/heat control/bio-compatibility/upgrade >> frequency, tagging along a competitive environment which itself will be >> fuelled by applications using similar methods for thesighted (IE >> augmentative reality), we can surely expect something unusually good, >> something out of sci-fi for 1990s, coming out. >> >> So people, enjoy the synesthesia while it lasts :) >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> Yuma Decaux >> >> Light has no value without darkness >> Skype: shainobi1 >> blog: www.theblindsamurai.com >> twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 >> Tel: +85513623378 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
slightly ot: activesync and vmware
alright, I suppose this is more than slightly off topic. I just don't know where else to ask. Does anyone have a clue why I can't get activesync to start to install on vmware? thanks, Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: slightly ot: activesync and vmware
well, I do have xp installed. Of course, now I am getting the idea that for winmo 6.5 I can't use it anyway. this is going to prove difficult. *sigh* On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Active Sync went out with Windows XP. Beginning with Vista, you needed > Windows Mobile Center. I assume it works with Win 7 as well. hth > On Feb 24, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Joel Zimba wrote: > >> alright, I suppose this is more than slightly off topic. I just don't know >> where else to ask. >> >> Does anyone have a clue why I can't get activesync to start to install on >> vmware? >> >> thanks, >> >> Joel >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
pdf files // preview etc
Hi all, I am trying to get pdf files to be edittable. I can manage reading them more or less with preview. I am filling out a form though, I'm not sure if it is using the pdf form elements or if the little dashes are just meant to be deleted and my information inserted. regardless, I can't seem to edit the pdf using preview. Is there a utility which will help me do this, especially if it will let me go through the fields as though it were a webform or some such. I gather that is the intended effect thanks, Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a touch interface. A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on more and more computer functions. We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. J On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the rotor > to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some extension > of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make it into the > keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the support of both the > dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. > > I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on > a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle > some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch > screen. That would really be clunky! > > On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity of > gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual keyboard > is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we work largely > with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate some of the > gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was that Apple > might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like the keyboard > shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for simple > functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down to pick > up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the iPad down > again to return to your keyboard. > > I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you > navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of > navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the > restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since Chris > was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use under > the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an iPhone or > iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the likelihood for a > hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the keyboard shortcuts > on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod Touch gestures have > made their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers under recent OS and > model updates. > > I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll > end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > Joe Plummer wrote: > >> That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in >> like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and >> do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so >> on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not what >> you are talking about then accept my apology. >> >> >> Sign, >> JP ( Joe Plummer) >> joeplum...@tds.net >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther >> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO >> keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you >> have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to >> use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual >> keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I >> can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on >> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle >> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch >> screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the >> current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch >> is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a >> document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't >> move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would >> really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the >> things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be >> general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> Chris Blouch
Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
I guess that's how they manage to sell the magic mouse. heh On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > The apple wireless bluetooth keyboard does not have a touch pad. > On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Joel Zimba wrote: > >> I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad >> commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a >> leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. >> >> If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. >> >> Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be >> simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a >> touch interface. >> >> >> A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to >> resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on >> more and more computer functions. >> >> We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. >> >> J >> On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the >>> rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some >>> extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make >>> it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the >>> support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. >>> >>> I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on >>> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle >>> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch >>> screen. That would really be clunky! >>> >>> On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity >>> of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual >>> keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we >>> work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate >>> some of the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was >>> that Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like >>> the keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone >>> for simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this >>> down to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put >>> the iPad down again to return to your keyboard. >>> >>> I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you >>> navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of >>> navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the >>> restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since >>> Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use >>> under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an >>> iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the >>> likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the >>> keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and >>> iPod Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac >>> computers under recent OS and model updates. >>> >>> I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll >>> end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> Joe Plummer wrote: >>> >>>> That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in >>>> like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and >>>> do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so >>>> on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not >>>> what >>>> you are talking about then accept my apology. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sign, >>>> JP ( Joe Plummer) >>>> joeplum...@tds.net >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>&g
Re: Any blind iPhone developers out there?
I am finding the ide a bit cumbersome. I do believe the simulator will be completely inaccessible, but I've not played with it yet. Perhaps I can blast it straight to the phone--it will be slower I'm sure. Will let you know more when I know for sure. Joel On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Victor Tsaran wrote: > Hello all, > Any blind developer was able to successfully write an iPhone app? What > gochas, difficulties did you have to deal with? > > Thanks, > V > > > -- > > > Check out my new album on iTunes at > http://ax.itunes.apple.com/us/artist/victor-tsaran/id344507896 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: having issues downloading drop box files
Well, if you click "accept" they willappear in your dropbox folder. Pretty slick! Joel On 12/21/2010 1:34 PM, matthew dyer wrote: Ray, Did you try copying and pasteing the link in to safary or web kit. This usualy works for me. Matthew On 12/19/10, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi, A friend sent me four drop box files via public links. Problem is I could only download one of them. I interacted with the message text and focused on the link. then, I opened the short cut menu. From there, I chose "download linked file". this only worked for one. It would not work for any other. I noticed that the links are broken up in to two lines. Any way to deal with this? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO and tables in Lion
Hi, can you clarify just what you mean about text documents and tables? As I see it, there are no tables in text documents. there are elements of text with elements of white space between. Are you talking about some sort of smart column recognition as in OCR programs? No Screenreader does that, and I'm not entirely sure it should. If, however, you mean properly rendering table markup as in xml/html ... and other file formats, then it is definitely a step backward for this feature to not be implemented in 10.7 since it works better in VO than in most other screenreaders I've used. Doubtless my confusion. Joel On 4/7/2011 7:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi William, thanks for your responds. I don't think that it's very likely that VO will recognize tables in iWorks 11. Also: VoiceOver should work with tables in all accessible editors. I want to use all accessible programed editors with VO, also the free ones like Bean. Thank you for your report to Apple. All the best Jürgen Am 07.04.2011 um 08:47 schrieb William Windels: Hello Jürgen, Thanx for this announcement. I'll report this for shore because this seems simply unacceptable in 2011. I hope a lot of others will do so. But also a litle remark: It isn't perhaps macosx that needs this feature but the particular programs like textedit and pages. I mean, perhaps they will add this functionality in iworks 11, (the next major version). So, for all, pls , report what you think about it to accessibility. Best regards, William Op 6-apr-2011, om 22:40 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven: Hi All, a friend told me VO still doesn't work with tables in text documents in Lion beta 2 what came out these days. As you all surely know tables in text documents are a huge issue working with VoiceOver. I think this is awful and unworthy to VoiceOver. VO is really a great screen reader but it seems not to be tolerable in 2011 that a screen reader doesn't work with tables. So I'll ask all of you to write an e-mail to accessibil...@apple.com to show that a lot of people are waiting for the ability of VO to recognize tables in text documents. In lots of discussions people told me "What? VoiceOver doesn't recognize tables in text documents? So VO might not be a serious screen reader." But that's not true, as we all know. And so my hope is when enough people write an e-mail to Apple and ask for that functionallity, Apple might see that it is really important to us. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Okcupid.com and voiceover
Hi, For some reason safari jumps around on the page in okcupid. I have had more success with m.okcupid.com. This doesn't give access to every feature of the site, but it does work. I have tried to write to them, but I've not tried to write in about the app. Joel On 5/8/2011 10:39 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote: I've had problems using this site with VO as well and have ended up going back to the PC when I want to use it. The iPhone app for the site doesn't seem to be accessible anymore either, although it was last summer. BTW, I've actually been wondering whether there is a list for blind users of online dating sites. I realize this might be too specific and difficult to build a community around, but after trying a couple of dating sites I feel like I could use some help. Eric On 5/8/11, matthew Dyer on Mac Mini wrote: Hi all, Last night I went to www.okcupid.com. I had a problem with the new matches link. Vo just frose and kep saying voiceover busy and I could not do anything with it. Anyone else here had this problem. I am using the latest nightly build of web kit. Thanks. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
