I guess that's how they manage to sell the magic mouse. heh
On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > The apple wireless bluetooth keyboard does not have a touch pad. > On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Joel Zimba wrote: > >> I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad >> commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a >> leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. >> >> If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. >> >> Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be >> simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a >> touch interface. >> >> >> A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to >> resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on >> more and more computer functions. >> >> We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. >> >> J >> On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the >>> rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some >>> extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make >>> it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the >>> support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. >>> <begin quote> >>> I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on >>> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle >>> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch >>> screen. That would really be clunky! >>> <end quote> >>> On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity >>> of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual >>> keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we >>> work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate >>> some of the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was >>> that Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like >>> the keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone >>> for simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this >>> down to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put >>> the iPad down again to return to your keyboard. >>> >>> I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you >>> navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of >>> navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the >>> restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since >>> Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use >>> under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an >>> iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the >>> likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the >>> keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and >>> iPod Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac >>> computers under recent OS and model updates. >>> >>> I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll >>> end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> Joe Plummer wrote: >>> >>>> That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in >>>> like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and >>>> do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so >>>> on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not >>>> what >>>> you are talking about then accept my apology. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sign, >>>> JP ( Joe Plummer) >>>> joeplum...@tds.net >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard >>>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO >>>> keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you >>>> have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to >>>> use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual >>>> keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I >>>> can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on >>>> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle >>>> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch >>>> screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the >>>> current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch >>>> is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a >>>> document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't >>>> move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would >>>> really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the >>>> things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be >>>> general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now that the reviews have been released it turns out the iPad's >>>>> bluetooth supports using Apple's real wireless keyboard. I think in >>>>> past posts there were some questions about using an external >>>>> keyboard. I wonder if this means VO keyboard commands will work or >>>>> is it only for typing in text? >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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