Hi,

I will check this out, but it does sound a great deal like quicksilver.  which 
used to be more accessible than it is now... 

Is anyone having better luck than I with using QS?

Joel

On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Alfredo Holguin wrote:

> I would like to request that all board members sent the following
> message to the posted email to request greater accessibility to the
> launch bar application.  This application lets you open WebPages,
> application, recently worked on documents from application such as
> Text edit, or works and the like, select and paste from a history of
> clipboard items, play a iTunes album or song without having to open
> iTunes, and index folders of your choice so that you can search those
> folders fast.  This is like a spotlight search, but to the second
> power.  It makes using your Mac way better.  If you have or have used,
> the feature of jaws, where you press, Insert spacebar, then the R key,
> then type in search term to search on a dictionary, or Wikipedia, then
> you will like this program.  This program lets you search your
> dictionary application, Google search, and the Wikipedia site, among
> other sites, through one window.  This makes using your Mac way
> efficient.  The application runs for 35 dollars.  It might sound
> expensive, but it is well worth it.  Seems like everyone here knows
> how to use their mac here, to this will only enhance their Mac
> experience so that they have more time for other things, like playing
> with your child, being with your family, etc.  I am not affiliated
> with the developer of this program; I just want it to be more
> accessible.  I have sent the below message to them.  However, since
> more attention will be given to this problem if more people point out
> the flaws of this program with voice over, we can get accessibility
> faster.  I would greatly appreciated if you sent the following message
> to the below email.  This email is there support email.  If you have
> questions of how to use the program, just let me know, although it is
> limited right now, I am able to use it.
> Alfredo
> 
> Email the following to:
> launch...@obdev.at
> 
> 
> Topic: Question / Technical Problem
> Product Version: 5.2
> Operating System: 10.6
> CPU: Intel
> 
> I am an apple voice over user and have a few questions and concerns
> regarding your launch bar application.  I am one of the thousands of
> blind users that have switched to the Mac from windows, and learned
> from your application from the Mac power user podcasts, and decided
> that if my apple experience was to be productive then I had to get
> launch bar.  I was not sure if the program was going to be accessible,
> but I tried it, and have count a few bumps on the way.  At the first
> the program was totally inaccessible, the only 2 items that voice over
> recognized on the dash board window, where , the “checkbox” (which was
> a checkbox, and “button”, which was a button that if I pressed gave me
> menu options such as preferences, quit, etc.  I then started messing
> around the preferences window of launch bar and, checked the box,
> “speak selected item” checkbox in the general area of the launch bar
> preferences.  This enabled me to hear all he search results that I was
> getting when blindly typing into the launch bar search field.  After
> this I found out that if I pressed the launch bar hotkey, which I
> configured to control-space, and launch bar was already running, I
> would be in in the launch bar window, then, although Voice over was
> unable to “see”, what I was trying on the search edit field, I was
> able to use it since I would get results when typing in websites,
> like, google.com, or, text, and then selecting the text edit
> application, then pressing space bar to see the list of previously
> open documents.  Then I manage to look at my clipboard list.  My
> concerns are the following:
> 
> 1.     I use voice over at a faster speech rate, than the speed at which
> you have your default when you checkbox the “speak selected item”
> option of the general preferences of the launch bar preferences.
> Because of this, it takes longer, thus it is less efficient, for me to
> use launch bar.  If the speech rate is slow, a keystroke pressed, such
> as tab to move between the search results, takes longer.  It would be
> a great option to either have the launch bar voice speed, be the same
> as the Voice over speech speed configured by the user account that is
> using the launch bar application.  Alternatively, you can have a
> slider in the general preferences of launch bar, preferably after, the
> checkbox, “speak selected item”, checkbox that would increase the
> speech rate speed of launch bar.  This is a deal breaker for me,
> meaning that if this feature cannot be implementing, then I cannot use
> launch bar to its full potential and would have to look elsewhere for
> alternatives to such a great program.
> 2.    Inaccessible text edit field, on the launch bar window, either
> through the compact action menu checkbox checked or not (this features
> is an option of the appearance preferences of launch bar).  This means
> that when I press control spacebar, Voice over, does not, “see”, what
> I am typing on the screen.  This means that if I make a mistake when
> typing in a webpage, or application, or name of a document, I cannot
> efficiently backspace, since I would not know what I am deleting, as
> voice over does not read back what I have typed or deleted.  It would
> greatly enhance the programs appeal to voice over users if they could
> hear and correct what they are typing into the search field of the
> launch bar window.  I have only used launch bar for a limited time,
> but if I required typing more than 8 characters in the search edit
> field of the launch bar window, I might lose track of what I was
> typing, and make such an efficient tool, inefficient.
> 3.    Navigation, I can currently navigate the laucnhbar window only with
> the tab key; enter key and the space bar key.  The tab key gets me to
> the search results, the spacebar, brings up the submenu, and the enter
> key selects an option.  However, since voice over is not “accessing”
> this features, I hear the options since I have selected the “speak
> selected item”, feature, but I cannot go back a search results easily,
> or cannot command voice over to read the search results character by
> character in case I did not understand what was spoken.  I can cycle
> through he search results but only one way, the shift tab, is not
> supported.  Usually shift tab will cycle through options in reverse
> order.  It would be a great enhancement to its efficiency and
> accessibility if voice over were able to access he search results and
> the submenus (which are access with the space bar).  By this I mean,
> that instead of just having the option to type the “tab” key, I can
> press the down arrow key, or the tab key, after typing in my search
> results, to go into the search results list, and then use the up and
> down arrow keys to select an option, or use, the left arrow or
> spacebar key to open a submenu, if it has one, and then use the enter
> key to selected that search result.
> 
> I currently am a luster of 2 voices over Mac forums, and if these
> features are implemented I will personally make me responsible for
> advertising launch bar on these lists.  There are currently about
> 1,000 users on this list.  If launch bar is tweaked just a little bit
> to make it more accessible to be able to use it as efficiently as
> sighted users you will definitely increase your profits and market
> share.  I would greatly appreciate if you contact me as soon as
> possible.  I am available to beta test any launch bar software
> application which has voice over accessibility so an accessible launch
> bar application is ready for prime release.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
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