Re: IOS 10 beta

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Simon,

I’m not sure how much written material Rob puts out but his podcasts list all 
the new features and the differences between each beta release. I see he has a 
twitter feed. So I could imagine the new features being tweeted.

http://tii.libsyn.com

Regards,

Gena

> On 9 Jul 2016, at 11:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi List folks,
>  
> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 
> beta release.
>  
> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 
> 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me.
>  
> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating.
>  
> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the 
> touch sensor.
>  
> Cheers for any information.
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Re: Downloading VMware FUsion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Look in your downloads folder, you’ll see the downloaded file.

Gena

> On 15 Jul 2016, at 21:32, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I just purchased VMware Fusion 8. When I try and download the app, I get an 
> empty HTML area. Has anyone gotten this before? How can I get it?
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Re: using caliber

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Caitlyn,

I’d like to be able to do this too. I thought the only way was to install the 
command line tools. Preferences, Advanced. then from the command line:

ebook-convert myBook.awz .pdf

There are many formats and command structures. The above is the most basic and 
good for most cases from the command line.

Regards,

Gena


> On 23 Jul 2016, at 17:49, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Does anybody have suggestions about how to use the latest version of caliber?
> 
> I am trying to convert some books with it.  I’ve managed to import the books, 
> but can’t seem to choose the output type I want-it’s stuck on pub and I want 
> pdf..  also, doing a bulk conversion of all the books in my library doesn’t 
> seem to work.
> 
> any help would be great!
> 
> Cait
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Re: using caliber

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Caitlyn,

Oh yes, that will convert to .rtf. However, I got some strange chars and never 
looked into how to express the character set my mac uses or the conversion used 
but there was on a few books a minor problem. They may have been end of line 
chars used in the original. You could also find a while loop to do multiple 
conversions.

Regards,

Gena


> On 24 Jul 2016, at 20:35, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi gina,
> 
> So, if I do it this way, can I specify .rtf instead of pdf?
> 
> the command line might actually be easier then the very roundabout way I’ve 
> been doing this!!
> 
> I really want an rtf file in the end, you see, and I couldn’t choose that for 
> the life of me!  So, what I eventually did was to import the books into 
> caliber so the drm could go away, then I used an online file converter to 
> change them into pdf, then the file went through docuscan to become rtf!  
> what a zoo, eh??
> 
> thanks for the command line way!
> Cait
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Caitlyn,
>> 
>> I’d like to be able to do this too. I thought the only way was to install 
>> the command line tools. Preferences, Advanced. then from the command line:
>> 
>> ebook-convert myBook.awz .pdf
>> 
>> There are many formats and command structures. The above is the most basic 
>> and good for most cases from the command line.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 17:49, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Does anybody have suggestions about how to use the latest version of 
>>> caliber?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to convert some books with it.  I’ve managed to import the 
>>> books, but can’t seem to choose the output type I want-it’s stuck on pub 
>>> and I want pdf..  also, doing a bulk conversion of all the books in my 
>>> library doesn’t seem to work.
>>> 
>>> any help would be great!
>>> 
>>> Cait
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Re: using caliber

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Caitlyn,

Apologies, I think that was for the Windows build. However, a search reveals 
you already have them as they are included in the Mac bundle.

https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/generated/en/cli-index.html

Happy hacking!

Gena
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 18:36, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gina,
> I’m running the latest version of caliber.  I can’t find the command line 
> tools under the advanced settings-or anywhere in the app, for that matter!  
> Are you using an older version?   If so, which one?
> 
> thanks a lot!
> 
> Cait
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Caitlyn,
>> 
>> Oh yes, that will convert to .rtf. However, I got some strange chars and 
>> never looked into how to express the character set my mac uses or the 
>> conversion used but there was on a few books a minor problem. They may have 
>> been end of line chars used in the original. You could also find a while 
>> loop to do multiple conversions.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 20:35, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi gina,
>>> 
>>> So, if I do it this way, can I specify .rtf instead of pdf?
>>> 
>>> the command line might actually be easier then the very roundabout way I’ve 
>>> been doing this!!
>>> 
>>> I really want an rtf file in the end, you see, and I couldn’t choose that 
>>> for the life of me!  So, what I eventually did was to import the books into 
>>> caliber so the drm could go away, then I used an online file converter to 
>>> change them into pdf, then the file went through docuscan to become rtf!  
>>> what a zoo, eh??
>>> 
>>> thanks for the command line way!
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Caitlyn,
>>>> 
>>>> I’d like to be able to do this too. I thought the only way was to install 
>>>> the command line tools. Preferences, Advanced. then from the command line:
>>>> 
>>>> ebook-convert myBook.awz .pdf
>>>> 
>>>> There are many formats and command structures. The above is the most basic 
>>>> and good for most cases from the command line.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 17:49, Caitlyn Furness  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Does anybody have suggestions about how to use the latest version of 
>>>>> caliber?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am trying to convert some books with it.  I’ve managed to import the 
>>>>> books, but can’t seem to choose the output type I want-it’s stuck on pub 
>>>>> and I want pdf..  also, doing a bulk conversion of all the books in my 
>>>>> library doesn’t seem to work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> any help would be great!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cait
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Re: Pairing a Braillepen 12 with an iPhone 6?

[Georgina Joyce]

hello Mark,

I had no trouble doing this. Are you trying from bluetooth or VoiceOver. 
Bluetooth displays are selected from within VO settings not those of generic 
bluetooth.

Good luck.

Gena



> On 23 Aug 2016, at 23:03, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Have not used this device but generally, you must put a BT device into 
> pairing mode. Then the iPhone should see it and ask for the pairing code.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/23/2016 2:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>> I am trying to do the above. I cannot get the iPhone to pair with the 
>> braille pen, even though the Bluetooth chip on the braille pen says it is 
>> working and the iPhone is discoverable.
>> 
>> Has anyone done this? Does anyone know anything about the braille pen in 
>> terms of custom set up Bluetooth pairing?
>> 
>> Be well.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I haven’t seen any reply. So I thought I would suggest an option that is not 
satisfactory in accessibility because you need sighted support to install. But 
after that, you’ll be able to convert from a terminal. Calibre needs to be 
installed and the command line tools need installing. After that a simple 
command line command will convert your books.

HTH

Gena

On 24 Jan 2014, at 17:13, Anouk Radix  wrote:

> Hello everyone,,
> I am not a particularly big fan of ibooks on the mac. In the past i used 
> stanza to convert epubs and other ebook formats to txtfiles. Under mavericks 
> stanza does not seem to work for me anymore though, i get the message that 
> the archive is damaged.
> Are there any other accessible os x apps compatible with mavericks and still 
> available/supported that can perform this task?
> Thanks in advance for any information,
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Of course, please find a download link and then the manual link. Kirk, ummm, no 
and you?


http://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx

 http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/cli/cli-index.html

HTH

Gena
On 31 Jan 2014, at 23:21, Keith Watson  wrote:

> Georgina,
> 
> Can you direct me to a site with instructions and the CLI tools? Appreciate 
> it.
> 
> 
> P.S. Heard from Kirk lately? 
> 
> Keith
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I haven't seen any reply. So I thought I would suggest an option that is not 
>> satisfactory in accessibility because you need sighted support to install. 
>> But after that, you'll be able to convert from a terminal. Calibre needs to 
>> be installed and the command line tools need installing. After that a simple 
>> command line command will convert your books.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> On 24 Jan 2014, at 17:13, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,,
>>> I am not a particularly big fan of ibooks on the mac. In the past i used 
>>> stanza to convert epubs and other ebook formats to txtfiles. Under 
>>> mavericks stanza does not seem to work for me anymore though, i get the 
>>> message that the archive is damaged.
>>> Are there any other accessible os x apps compatible with mavericks and 
>>> still available/supported that can perform this task?
>>> Thanks in advance for any information,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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Re: how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Again if your request is to generate a html file on OS X then calibre will do 
that but it is not accessible to install then tell it to go and grab the 
command line tools. But once they are installed it's easy to convert.

Don't know about IOS platform.

Gena

On 31 Jan 2014, at 23:32, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> If you use IPhone you can use voice dream, and export all text to a program 
> e.g. accessnote.
> 
> I found a tool on this site, that I use.
> www.epubsoft.com
> It is called toolbox.
> 
> I would like a program that can convert an epub file to a single file HTML 
> file, that would really make a difference for me.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> 
> Den 01 Feb 2014 kl. 00:21 skrev Keith Watson :
> 
>> Georgina,
>> 
>> Can you direct me to a site with instructions and the CLI tools? Appreciate 
>> it.
>> 
>> 
>> P.S. Heard from Kirk lately? 
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen any reply. So I thought I would suggest an option that is 
>>> not satisfactory in accessibility because you need sighted support to 
>>> install. But after that, you'll be able to convert from a terminal. Calibre 
>>> needs to be installed and the command line tools need installing. After 
>>> that a simple command line command will convert your books.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jan 2014, at 17:13, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,,
>>>> I am not a particularly big fan of ibooks on the mac. In the past i used 
>>>> stanza to convert epubs and other ebook formats to txtfiles. Under 
>>>> mavericks stanza does not seem to work for me anymore though, i get the 
>>>> message that the archive is damaged.
>>>> Are there any other accessible os x apps compatible with mavericks and 
>>>> still available/supported that can perform this task?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any information,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
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Re: Problem Inserting Formulas in Numbers in Mavericks

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Chris,

It does appear quite difficult and shouldn't be so. You may wish to report it 
as a bug.

Having said which, if you type an equals sign in the cell where you want your 
formula you can pull down the insert menu and select function and one of those 
options. But I'm not sure why you need to select from the format bar? Yes, I 
agree that if there's a tool provided then we should have access to it like 
everyone else. I wondered, are they formulas that are too difficult to write 
out manually?

You are not doing anything wrong. Hang in there and you'll find a way.

HTH

Gena

On 5 Mar 2014, at 22:41, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> On my Macbook Pro I am still using iWork 2009 under Mountain Lion.
>  
> However, I am using some of my One-to-One training to get familiar with 
> Mavericks and the new versions of Pages and Numbers. I am having a problem in 
> Numbers which I hope is caused by me doing something wrong. However, as I had 
> two trainers trying
> to help me sort out this issue earlier today but without success I am not 
> sure. I hope I can explain the problem without being too long winded. Also, 
> as I can only repeat what the trainers told me was happening on the screen I 
> hope you will understand my explanation.
>  
> The problem arises when I want to insert a formula into a cell.
>  
> If I go to a cell and Interact with it I can then use VO+J to go to the 
> Format Bar but the options for inserting a formula are obviously not there 
> because I have not clicked into the cell and typed an equals sign. I can get 
> to the Toolbar and find
> the Functions drop down menu but if I then choose one of the functions the 
> menu closes without anything happening. Again this must be because I have not 
> clicked inside
> the cell and type the equals sign. This does seem logical.
>  
> However, if I go to the cell and Interact and then press VO+Shift+Spacebar so 
> that I can type the equals sign I am told that the correct options then 
> appear on the Format Bar. However, pressing VO+J only produces a "dong" 
> sound. One of the Trainers said that the only
> way he could get to the list of functions was to physically click the mouse. 
> However, although I tried all the tracking options I could think of I could 
> not find the point where I needed to click.
>  
> If this really is a user error and you can explain what I should have done I 
> will be most happy and grateful. Otherwise it will be very disappointing that 
> Voiceover
> cannot handle this aspect of Numbers. I find it hard to believe that such a 
> significant issue could have been missed during testing.
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
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Re: Calibre Question

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Hello Jane,

It worked for me a couple of months ago, when I asked a sighted person to 
install calibre. Then run it from it's installed location. Then selecting 
preferences, advanced and misc.

HTH.

Gena
On 14 Apr 2014, at 18:35, Jane  wrote:

> How can I  install the command line tools/ It's not like I an acces 
> Preferences, Advanced, Misscelaneous. At least, last I checked it didn't 
> work. Is there any other way to get them installed?
> 
> Jane
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Re: Scanners revisited

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I wondered how people were using a camera like the Hovercam when wanting to 
read anything other than a flat piece of paper? How do people resolve the issue 
of pages of a book not lying flat? Surely, even letters that have folds in them 
can be problematic?

Your thoughts and experiences would be appreciated as I have purchased a T5 and 
just haven't had the time to experiment.

Thanks.

Gena
On 26 Apr 2014, at 16:23, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> Hi,  Eyepal is a good solution.  Not a great solution, but a good one.  I 
> haven't tested fine reader pro, but if it works with the hovercam T5V then 
> that would be even better.  Docuscan plus and t5v is also a good combination.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> 
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> On 2014-04-26, at 10:31 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, wondering if there has been any improvements with scanners and oct for 
>> the mac. The last time I checked was 3 or 4 years ago. Eye-pal looked 
>> promising, but I need a solution soon as I don't own a windows machine and 
>> would prefer privacy for reading my own mail:).
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

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Hello,

I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.

http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html

I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still get 
one? If so, from where?

Thanks.

Gena
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> Hi, all,
> 
> I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
> Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
> communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
> with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
> just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
> way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being updated 
> that would allow me to do this?
> 
> just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
> with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
> also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
> foreseeable future.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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> 
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Re: OT does anyone no of a blind linux or Orca List

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Well I received a message from the speakup list recently but it is not as 
active as it used to be.

http://www.linux-speakup.org

There was a blinux list at one time, I can't remember the orca was it 
gnome-access I'm sure these lists wouldn't be too difficult to find. I don't 
know what has happened to the vinux list.

Gena
On 1 Jun 2014, at 13:56, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> Good morning,
> Just as before I am writing privately with an email that  includes the list 
> information.
> hth,
> Kare
> 
> On Sat, 31 May 2014, dooie13 wrote:
> 
>> Hello Karen,
>> 
>> May I Please get this information also?
>> 
>> Thank you, Very Much,
>> 
>> Dooie
>> 100% Blind USN Vet
>> Portland, Oegon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Karen Lewellen > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Sat, 31 May 2014 18:51:19 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: OT does anyone no of a blind linux or Orca List
>> 
>> I know of one.  will write you privately with the name and contact.
>> Karen
>> 
>> On Sat, 31 May 2014, Lee Jones wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List, I wondered if anyone knows of a list for blind linux users.  I am 
>> interested in finding out how dooable orca is but I can't find any 
>> information on the web.  There is no applevis  for vinux.
>> 
>> Many Thanks, Lee
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.

Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 chipsets 
supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a supported one. I 
had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't difficult. It generates 
a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the braille for embossing.

Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.

I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which I 
eventually found. This works OK but is limited.

Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work for 
me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.

So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or Louis 
if you want a GUI interface.

HTH

Gena

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> That's the same question I want to know. I have a Romeo Pro 50 and want to 
> emboss with it.
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

[Georgina Joyce]

tained paper thrown in the trash! 
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
> 
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> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.
>> 
>> Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 
>> chipsets supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a 
>> supported one. I had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't 
>> difficult. It generates a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the 
>> braille for embossing.
>> 
>> Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.
>> 
>> I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
>> not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which 
>> I eventually found. This works OK but is limited.
>> 
>> Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
>> with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work 
>> for me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.
>> 
>> So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or 
>> Louis if you want a GUI interface.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Tim,

I don't know that machine. What do Enabling Technologies say? What have you 
tried?

Gena
On 10 Jun 2014, at 22:42, Tim Emmons  wrote:

> Gena, I have a Romeo Pro 50 a single sided braille printer from Enabling 
> technologies. Can I get that to emboss on the mac side? I've not had luck 
> with it yet but was just curious. Let me know what might work. This is for my 
> office here at work, we're trying to get our braille printer back up and 
> going and we've been down with it for a few months since they switched us 
> here and I can't seem to get the embosser to work. Thanks. 
> On Jun 10, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.
>> 
>> Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 
>> chipsets supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a 
>> supported one. I had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't 
>> difficult. It generates a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the 
>> braille for embossing.
>> 
>> Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.
>> 
>> I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
>> not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which 
>> I eventually found. This works OK but is limited.
>> 
>> Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
>> with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work 
>> for me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.
>> 
>> So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or 
>> Louis if you want a GUI interface.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> On 10 Jun 2014, at 18:31, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's the same question I want to know. I have a Romeo Pro 50 and want to 
>>> emboss with it.
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Re: Where are Vo crash logs located?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

It looks like on my Mavericks system:

~Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/

HTH

Gena

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> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Can some one tell me where crash logs are located for VO, is it 
> ~/Library/Preferences/Logs/Crashreports?
> I've been looking for them, and I think I'm probably not looking in the right 
> place.
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Re: Voice Over and Keynote accessibility?

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Re: Voice Over and Keynote accessibility?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Whoops, replied to the wrong message.

Apologies!
On 19 Jun 2014, at 21:32, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> You've got expensive tastes.  It's really difficult after receiving a 
> faulty MFJ product but knowing they are very popular, trust them again?
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> On 19 Jun 2014, at 14:18, Jule Ann M Lieberman  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you all, will give this a try on a Mac either on son's desk or at an  
>> apple Store.
>> Thanks.
>> Jule Ann
>> 
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:14 AM
>> To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Over and Keynote accessibility?
>> 
>> Yes, Keynote is accessible. I imagine the Apple rep was saying that the 
>> slide(s) you were trying to work with were images only, rather like a PDF 
>> that is scanned text instead of actual text is inaccessible.
>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don't think Keynote would work with image files. The image would need to 
>> be converted to text. Yes, I have used Keynote successfully to create and 
>> read presentations. It works very nicely with voiceover.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Jule Ann M Lieberman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> I have held  back on purchasing a Mac book  because most of my work is in
>> giving lectures, workshops and  presentations. I use Power Point on my
>> laptop with JAWS to get the work done. When considering  a Mac book I
>> would  need to have this ability. Last year when I contacted Apple
>> accessibility I was informed that Keynote is not accessible with Voice
>> Over as  that this file is an image  file rather than a text based file. I
>> understand that I can add a windows simulation , plus Office, plus JAWS
>> but frankly  feel that this is rather ridiculous for purposes of  running
>> one productivity application.
>> Has there been any improvement in accessibility to Keynote? I have recent
>> posts on other list serves that claim all  Apple productivity software is
>> accessible with Voice Over,  although I have heard the contrary from Apple
>> last year.
>> Thank you for taking the time to respond, if members of this list have
>> used Keynote successfully to create and read  presentations, please send
>> along  any reference links or guides.
>> Jule Ann
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 12:13 PM
>> To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Disabling notification centre?
>> 
>> HI Christopher,
>> 
>> Have you explored the method I just sent along to Jean? Is this enough or
>> are you looking to completely exterminate Notification Center?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cara :)
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Subject says it all. How to disable the notification centre please?
>> Thanks!
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TV Recording in the UK

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I wondered what the options are for recording television programs here in the 
UK? Either Freeview or Sky / Freesat? 

Can you record Sky broadcasts on a Mac or an iPad or iPhone with audio 
description, from an accessible app?
Is there a Freeview TV card that supports audio description for a Mac that is 
supported by VO friendly software?

Look forward to hearing any responses.

Thanks.

Gena

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Re: a few mac questions before starting school this fall

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Brian,

If your buying a new Apple product, I’d suggest you look at purchasing 1 to 1 
training. Providing an Apple store is in your area. You can take as many 
sessions with a VoiceOverApple trained member of staff within a year.

Some people don’t like it but it made my switch very easy. Stores can be noisy 
and some staff are better than others. Here in the UK, the Trafford Centre 
allowed VO customers to have 2 hour sessions.

Good luck with your switch and future studies.

Gena
> On 23 Mar 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> Since I have decided to switch to the mac permanently now, I am getting ready 
> to start my master’s this fall, and I had really just one question I guess.  
> In text edit, has anyone used this to write papers and things like that for 
> school?  Can you do headers and footers and footnotes and things like that, 
> or do I need to get pages for this?  If I need to get pages, how accessible 
> is it, and are there any tutorials on using that, or numbers or key note with 
> voiceover?  Just trying to get a good handle on some of these apps before 
> starting school this fall.  I don’t want to be fighting voiceover while 
> trying to get assignments done.  Thanks for the help,
> Brian
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Bootcamp question

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I’ve just read Christopher Hal’s guide on installing Windows via Bootcamp on 
AppleVis. I see some discussion of Windows 8x and mention of Mavericks. But was 
there a guide for Windows 7, or 8x from Yosemite? Particularly the post install 
sound issues? I don’t own fusion so perhaps the USB sound card option might 
work? I’d appreciate any Yosemite bootcamp experiences.

Thanks.

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Re: Reading PDF files on the mac

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Hello,

I don’t know if there’s a better way. But I highlight the text cmd+a then copy 
cmd+c then open text edit and paste cmd+v into a new document. Not nice but it 
works for me.

Gena
> On 26 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I can do it with preview if I interact with the image group. I’d like to know 
> how to save a pdf as text.
> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> What are some options for reading PDF files on the mac?
>> Chris
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Re: Abby Finer Reading. Was: Re: Reading PDF files on the mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Gabriel,

I just looked and saw a few of your scanner’s range supported. However, that is 
official support. That does not mean that it won’t work. It depends upon your 
choice. Do you want to fiddle about or just go out and buy a new scanner. A lot 
of drivers support several models but I couldn’t get info on those in the Slim 
range. I could find anything for my Epson but I plugged it in and it worked 
straight away.

I could not find any complaints that someone couldn’t get that model working on 
a Mac either. If that scanner has been around for a while, I’m sure someone has 
tried it.

Good luck.

Gena

> 
> from the website of my scanner’s company, results that this OptiTek Slim 
> 2600, requires Windows to run.
> 
> So, I must buy a new Scanner. Do you have any suggestion for a small, not to 
> much expansive, a4 scanner which is good to recognize text and quite fast?
> 
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
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Re: Get a Scanner to work in a different O.S. Was: Re: Abby Finer Reading. Was: Re: Reading PDF files on the mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Gabriel,

Most scanners are made to work from a twain driver so check out the twain sane 
interface. It’s not as nice as the GUI tools but a little of reading might just 
keep familiar hardware going. From memory it involved installing about 5 little 
programs within the terminal. But that was some years ago for a different 
scanner. Take a look at this:

http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/  

Good luck.

Gena
> On 2 Apr 2015, at 08:42, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ciao Gena and thanks for your answer.
> Yes, officially they don't list Mac OS  among the supported O.S.
> It's the first time I face such problem and onestly I don't know how to solve 
> it.
> 
> Should I search for drivers by using my scanner's name and MAC OSX?
> 
> How do you fix this issue or, what do you suggest me to try?
> 
> Many many thanks.
> Gabriel.
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Re: how to message someone offsets here not by asking his/her email address here?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Yes, there’s also looking at the raw source from the view, message menu. From 
memory cmd u.

Gena
> On 3 Apr 2015, at 14:30, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sort of.  When in the message, press cmd-shift-h to have Mail show all the 
> Header information, interact with that info then navigate through all that 
> technical mumbo jumbo until you find the line that says something about 
> “x-Original Sender” and the eMail address is there.  Six of one, half dozen 
> of the other to know which is quicker or easier.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 00:47, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> thanks, but is there another way to do it rather than copy paste it to text 
> edit? But thanks anyway
>> On 02 Apr 2015, at 10:34 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Kind of a backwards way of doing things, but try this.
>> 
>> • When the message from this person is open.
>> • Interact with the Message Header area.
>> • Press cmd-a to select its contents.
>> • open TextEdit.
>> • press cmd-shift-t to change the format to Plain text.
>> • Paste in the results of your copy.
>> 
>> The eMail address will be between the pointies right after their name.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 13:51, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Good morning to all, i would like to ask how would you email offlist by 
>> not asking his/her email adress here?
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Re: having trouble networking my macbook to my desktop pc

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Ted,

It would be useful if you stated what you had done and not state everything has 
been done correctly. Otherwise it would work. Here’s a guide.

http://www.7tutorials.com/access-windows-7-shared-folders-os-x-home-network 


Good luck.

Gena

> On 10 Apr 2015, at 23:02, ted phillips  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  I am having trouble getting a seamless network going between my 
> macbook and desktop pc.  First of all, the only way I can get them to connect 
> is by connecting as a guest on the windows computer, it will not take any of 
> my passwords.  Second, according to all the networking articles I could find, 
> everything is set correctly.  The macbook is a new macbook pro running 
> yosemite and the windows computer is windows 7.  Is there a way to set things 
> up so I can automaticallly see the drives and folders I want on the macbook?  
> Sorry for the long message. Thanks for any help that might come.
> 
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Re: Infovox Ivox 4.1 Is Out With New Sharon Voice

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Hello Guys,

I had a couple of these voices I used on Linux some years ago and didn’t think 
about getting them on my Mac. How do they run on a Mac? Are they fluid or do 
they drag the system down? Do they create any instability?

Thanks.

Gena
> On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:00, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Ah. So the reason why I don't see Heather there in the list of downloadable 
> voices is because I haven't purchased her in the past. I guess that makes 
> sense. I found Heather too robotic for my liking so her not being a 
> downloadable voice anymore doesn't bother me.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shaun.
>> Heather will be there if you purchased her in the past. A bunch of the 
>> voices got an update, and she was one of them.
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
>> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 13:37, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure about that Matt, but you can email them at 
>>> supp...@assistiveware.com or if you have Twitter like I do you can send 
>>> them a tweet to @assistiveware.
>>> Chris, I wasn't going to record my Mac. My original idea was to make an MP3 
>>> of her reading text using the "Add to iTunes as a spoken track" feature but 
>>> I can't remember how to do that. Oh, and before I forget, let me change the 
>>> url for Acapela thanks to damn auto correct. It's acapela-group.com to make 
>>> your own sample.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 14, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Dierckens  
 wrote:
 
 Hello, so what about those of us who actually purchased Heather. Is she 
 just going to be deleted from the computer?
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh trainer
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 08:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any way you could make an mp3 sample for us to hear?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:54 AM
> Subject: Infovox Ivox 4.1 Is Out With New Sharon Voice
> 
> 
> Hey all. I'm excited to report that Infovox Ivox 4.1 is out! This update 
> adds the new US English voice named Sharon who I'll say again is the best 
> voice they've made. If you like Ava from Nuance but are tired of your Mac 
> going so slow, I suggest you download this voice. On another note, for 
> those of you that like Heather, she's no longer supported and therefore 
> is no longer one of the voices you can download. That's because I think 
> Heather was replaced by Sharon. So like I said, if you like Ava, you'll 
> probably like Sharon.
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Re: Infovox Ivox 4.1 Is Out With New Sharon Voice

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Try highlighting text in TextEdit or Pages then VO + Shift + Down-Arrow. It 
should be on that context menu.

HTH

Gena



> On 14 Apr 2015, at 21:59, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi. As Matt pointed out, I get no lag when using Scapula's voices. In my 
> opinion though, the Nuance voices can't touch Sharon. She's the best American 
> female voice ever. If someone can tell me how I would make a spoken track 
> with her, I'd be delighted to give y'all a sample.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Guys,
>> 
>> I had a couple of these voices I used on Linux some years ago and didn’t 
>> think about getting them on my Mac. How do they run on a Mac? Are they fluid 
>> or do they drag the system down? Do they create any instability?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
>>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:00, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah. So the reason why I don't see Heather there in the list of downloadable 
>>> voices is because I haven't purchased her in the past. I guess that makes 
>>> sense. I found Heather too robotic for my liking so her not being a 
>>> downloadable voice anymore doesn't bother me.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Shaun.
>>>> Heather will be there if you purchased her in the past. A bunch of the 
>>>> voices got an update, and she was one of them.
>>>> God bless.
>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
>>>> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
>>>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 13:37, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure about that Matt, but you can email them at 
>>>>> supp...@assistiveware.com or if you have Twitter like I do you can send 
>>>>> them a tweet to @assistiveware.
>>>>> Chris, I wasn't going to record my Mac. My original idea was to make an 
>>>>> MP3 of her reading text using the "Add to iTunes as a spoken track" 
>>>>> feature but I can't remember how to do that. Oh, and before I forget, let 
>>>>> me change the url for Acapela thanks to damn auto correct. It's 
>>>>> acapela-group.com to make your own sample.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Dierckens  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello, so what about those of us who actually purchased Heather. Is she 
>>>>>> just going to be deleted from the computer?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matt Dierckens
>>>>>> Assistive technology specialist
>>>>>> Macintosh trainer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 08:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any way you could make an mp3 sample for us to hear?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:54 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Infovox Ivox 4.1 Is Out With New Sharon Voice
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey all. I'm excited to report that Infovox Ivox 4.1 is out! This 
>>>>>>> update adds the new US English voice named Sharon who I'll say again is 
>>>>>>> the best voice they've made. If you like Ava from Nuance but are tired 
>>>>>>> of your Mac going so slow, I suggest you download this voice. On 
>>>>>>> another note, for those of you that like Heather, she's no longer 
>>>>>>> supported and therefore is no longer one of the voices you can 
>>>>>>> download. That's because I think Heather was replaced by Sharon. So 
>>&g

Re: Infovox Ivox 4.1 Is Out With New Sharon Voice

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Or highlighted text within an email the context menu has the option to add to 
iTunes as a spoken track.

Regards.

Gena
> On 14 Apr 2015, at 22:15, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Try highlighting text in TextEdit or Pages then VO + Shift + Down-Arrow. It 
> should be on that context menu.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 21:59, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. As Matt pointed out, I get no lag when using Scapula's voices. In my 
>> opinion though, the Nuance voices can't touch Sharon. She's the best 
>> American female voice ever. If someone can tell me how I would make a spoken 
>> track with her, I'd be delighted to give y'all a sample.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my White MacBook
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Guys,
>>> 
>>> I had a couple of these voices I used on Linux some years ago and didn’t 
>>> think about getting them on my Mac. How do they run on a Mac? Are they 
>>> fluid or do they drag the system down? Do they create any instability?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:00, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ah. So the reason why I don't see Heather there in the list of 
>>>> downloadable voices is because I haven't purchased her in the past. I 
>>>> guess that makes sense. I found Heather too robotic for my liking so her 
>>>> not being a downloadable voice anymore doesn't bother me.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn
>>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Shaun.
>>>>> Heather will be there if you purchased her in the past. A bunch of the 
>>>>> voices got an update, and she was one of them.
>>>>> God bless.
>>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>>> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
>>>>> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
>>>>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 13:37, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure about that Matt, but you can email them at 
>>>>>> supp...@assistiveware.com or if you have Twitter like I do you can send 
>>>>>> them a tweet to @assistiveware.
>>>>>> Chris, I wasn't going to record my Mac. My original idea was to make an 
>>>>>> MP3 of her reading text using the "Add to iTunes as a spoken track" 
>>>>>> feature but I can't remember how to do that. Oh, and before I forget, 
>>>>>> let me change the url for Acapela thanks to damn auto correct. It's 
>>>>>> acapela-group.com to make your own sample.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Dierckens  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello, so what about those of us who actually purchased Heather. Is she 
>>>>>>> just going to be deleted from the computer?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matt Dierckens
>>>>>>> Assistive technology specialist
>>>>>>> Macintosh trainer
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 08:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any way you could make an mp3 sample for us to hear?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:54 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Infovox Ivox 4.1 Is Out With New Sharon Voice
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey all. I'm excited to report that Infovox Ivox 4.1 is out! This 
>

Re: Thinking of buying Pages

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

It’s fixed to the age of the hardware. Was it announced October 2013. Thus 
hardware prior to the date will need to pay for iWork suite. Hardware after the 
date the suite is free. See:

https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/10/23Apple-Introduces-Next-Generation-iWork-and-iLife-Apps-for-OS-X-and-iOS.html
 


Gena

> On 15 Apr 2015, at 22:37, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have Yosemite and the app store tells me the cost is $24.99Aud. As I said 
> earlier I think it is free after I bought my Mac.
> Max
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2015, at 4:47 pm, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but if you update to Yosemite you will have free access to Pages.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> On 15/04/2015 05:03, Agent086b wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I think that came in just after I got my iMac.
>>> Max.
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2015, at 2:01 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I thought Pages was now free if you're on OSX 10.10. I actually paid for 
 my copy so I can't be 100% sure. Check the Mac app store and make sure you 
 can't just download them.
 
 CB
 
 On 4/14/15 11:54 PM, Agent086b wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have been using Textedit since I got my Mac.
> I have a document that is 13 pages long. Firstly I have great difficulty 
> getting my cursor to the last page. When I inserted a page break to 
> create page 14 I was not able to get VO to read what I am typing. If I 
> purchase Pages is there a limit to the number of pages I can work with?
> I am not complaining about Textedit, after all it cost nothing extra when 
> I got the iMac.
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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Re: Adware warning!

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Imaging or backing up and restoring isn’t going to change until the user 
changes their behaviour. Think before you click.

As for root access with VoiceOver, in the terminal you can use the sudo command 
and make changes to the system.

Gena
> On 24 Apr 2015, at 00:39, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Christine,  
> 
> I am so sorry that you had to experience such a, what for many of us, would 
> be a scary thing.  
> 
> You know, a month or so ago, a friend of mine purchased a new MacBook Air.  
> 
> I don't know what she did between the Friday when I set it up and the 
> following Tuesday but when next I saw it, there was no doubt but that she had 
> been hacked/compromised.  I don't remember the particulars but a quick Google 
> search confirmed it.
> 
> Now even though many hate to hear this, I'll tell you that, for my money, the 
> only way to really be certain that you have a clean secure system is to (1) 
> restore from a known good backup such as one would have using SuperDuper or 
> (2) wiping the drive clean and performing a fresh install.  As far as I am 
> concerned, once your system has been compromised, there are no other options.
> 
> So many times I see both Windows and Mac users take less drastic steps to 
> redeem their systems only to have the same problems crop up a few weeks or 
> sometimes months later.  
> 
> This is just my opinion, of course, as I do not want to start a heated debate.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Adware warning!
> 
> I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
> I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
> informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
> system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect 
> any further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
> 888 553-4193
> and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
> digits.
> My BS detector was on full alert. 
> I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this 
> occurs several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
> When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the 
> server, nor could Google Chrome. 
> I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
> VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
> bring it up.
> The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
> experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the 
> ability to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing 
> like an application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com, download 
> adware medic, and run it.
> This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
> incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
> mode?
> Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known 
> to give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting 
> their computers fixed.
> Christine
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Re: Major trouble with internet: Warning: not for the basic user!

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Chris,

I’d use instructions to set up an access point rather than a bridge. I’d get 
hold of a basic router and use it as an access point. But here’s a reversed Mac 
approach. But the principals apply.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-make-your-mac-a-wifi-access-point.html
 



> On 26 Apr 2015, at 20:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland  > wrote:
> 
> As I said in my subject, I don't want to turn anyone off from reading this 
> e-mail.  If you genuinely think you can help, just know, no suggestion is 
> stupid.  Especially considerring that I've tried everything under the son.  
> At this point, I'm willing to try literally just about anything including 
> throwing the mac across the room, then screaming!  LOL!
>  
> So, a little bit of very brief background.  I have a Dell computer which 
> apparently has just bitten the dust.  It's about 10 years old.  This really 
> isn't rellavent more so than to say  I just put it in storage until I figure 
> out what to do with it.  I also have a Yamaha hifi dolby/prologic surround 
> sound 5.1 receiver.  This receiver has an ethernet port on the back of it 
> which allows you to connect it to an internet wired connection for things 
> like Pandora, Spottify, etc.  Get to the point, Chris, you say.  I am, I am, 
> I promise.  Stick with me on this.  Just hear me out for a sec as this is 
> actually incredibly rellavant to my problem.
>  
> So, here's the issue.  The receiver doesn't have wifi capability.  It's 
> stricly only able to connect to a network via a hardwired ethernet 
> connection.  Well, this would be all fine and dandy except for one thing.
>  
> I don't have room on my desk with my router to set the receiver up.  
> Therefore, I had to set the receiver up across the room beside that old 
> busted Dell machine.  Due to home regulations set by my landlord, I cannot 
> tack anything to the walls, nor use double sided tape, or anything of the 
> sort, nor can I tack anything across my ceiling.  Therefore, there went using 
> a token ringed topology, let alone a PTP host/client configuration.  
> Therefore, what I was doing was connecting via wifi to my home network's 
> router across the room.  This supplied internet connectivity to me on the 
> Dell machine.  Then what I did was, I ran an ethernet cable from the on board 
> ethernet port on the back of the Dell tower to the ethernet port on my Yamaha 
> receiver.  Then, finally, in Windows XP, I was able to go under Control 
> Panel, Networks, select both my wifi connection as well as my ethernet 
> connection, hit the application's key, or rather, right click, same thing, 
> and then select bridge connection from the context menu.  Once done, it made 
> my wifi connection carry down to my ethernet port.  So, in other words, as 
> long as I have an internet connection on my wifi end, then whatever got 
> plugged into the ethernet port hardwired used that exact same connection.
>  
> So, now that the Dell system has gone to its grave, and is there rotting, 
> LOL!  just kidding, seriously  though, I'm trying to achieve this same exact 
> thing with Yosemite 10.10.3.  No matter what the heck I do though, try as I 
> may, I just can! not! seem to get this to work.
>  
> So far, I went into System Preferences, Sharing.  Under here, I first 
> selected the internet sharing service in the table.  Then, making sure the 
> box in the first column of that table row was unchecked, I moved down and set 
> the share from popup button to wifi.  Then, in the share to table, I made 
> sure that the only thing checked was ethernet.  Then, I went back to the 
> services table, checked the box beside the Internet sharing service, and 
> started up the service.
>  
> I should add that all the above things were done while the ethernet cable was 
> plugged in both to the mac, and to the receiver.
>  
> I then tried getting the receiver to go out online via internet, but it 
> wouldn't.  I wondered if something got turned off in the receiver's menus, so 
> I tested with an old laptop I have which doesn't even have wifi ability, only 
> ethernet.  It didn't work there either, so trust me.  It's not the receiver 
> here that's at fault.
>  
> I went back to System Prefernces, then to network.  I noticed that the first 
> service in the table was eithernet, not wifi, even though wifi is my primary 
> means to connect.  Therefore, I went to the actions popup button, and to 
> service order, I think it's called... something to that effect.  Using the 
> Voiceover's drag and drop abilities, I dragged the connections around and got 
> them so wifi was first, then Ethernet was second.  This way, wifi takes 
> higher priority.  This didn't fix the issue.
>  
> Next, still in network settings, on the ethernet connection, I noticed though 
> connected, it said that it had a self assigned IP address, and will not

Which DVD software is it people are using?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I have seen discussion about DVD ripping but not given any attention. But now I 
wish to rip some DVD’s I am not sure what package has been discussed as being 
accessible with VoiceOver.

I thought it was Mac DVD Ripper Pro but I see that there is a more expensive 
program with an X added to the name Macx DVD Ripper Pro. Which one is 
accessible?

Thanks.

Gena

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Re: Which DVD software is it people are using?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Thanks, regrettably I can’t download it. I just get a 404 error and emailing 
them I just get silence.

Oh dear!

Gena
> On 28 Apr 2015, at 18:58, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>  Mac DVDRipper Pro is $24.95 and quite accessible. This is the app under 
> discussion at the moment. Trial version allows up to 5 dvds.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
>   By way of the Chariots of the
> Gods cameth the Aliens who
> dwelt amongst the humans,
> and bringeth much knowledge.
> 
> On 4/28/2015 10:51 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have seen discussion about DVD ripping but not given any attention. But 
>> now I wish to rip some DVD’s I am not sure what package has been discussed 
>> as being accessible with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I thought it was Mac DVD Ripper Pro but I see that there is a more expensive 
>> program with an X added to the name Macx DVD Ripper Pro. Which one is 
>> accessible?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
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Re: Which DVD software is it people are using?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

That is the link from which I’ve purchased it then found I couldn’t download 
it. I clicked on the link: Try It 
<http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>Download a free trial version
Rip your first 5 DVDs for free <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>.

Thanks.

Gena

> On 28 Apr 2015, at 19:05, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   Try this link.
> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/>
> 
> From The Believer. . .
>   By way of the Chariots of the
> Gods cameth the Aliens who
> dwelt amongst the humans,
> and bringeth much knowledge.
> 
> On 4/28/2015 11:04 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Thanks, regrettably I can’t download it. I just get a 404 error and emailing 
>> them I just get silence.
>> 
>> Oh dear!
>> 
>> Gena
>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 18:58, The Believer  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Mac DVDRipper Pro is $24.95 and quite accessible. This is the app under 
>>> discussion at the moment. Trial version allows up to 5 dvds.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2015 10:51 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have seen discussion about DVD ripping but not given any attention. But 
>>>> now I wish to rip some DVD’s I am not sure what package has been discussed 
>>>> as being accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought it was Mac DVD Ripper Pro but I see that there is a more 
>>>> expensive program with an X added to the name Macx DVD Ripper Pro. Which 
>>>> one is accessible?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
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Re: Which DVD software is it people are using?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I wonder what the filename is? I see from the 404 error it is trying:

http://cdn.macdvdripperpro.com/MDRP_v504.zip 
<http://cdn.macdvdripperpro.com/MDRP_v504.zip>


Is that how they have constructed the filename? i.e. MDRP in uppercase followed 
by an underscore, lowercase v then the number followed by dot zip extension?

HA! I see that domain with the cdn. prefix isn’t a valid domainname.



> On 28 Apr 2015, at 19:35, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> That is the link from which I’ve purchased it then found I couldn’t download 
> it. I clicked on the link: Try It 
> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>Download a free trial version
> Rip your first 5 DVDs for free <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 19:05, The Believer > <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>   Try this link.
>> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/ <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/>>
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>> 
>> On 4/28/2015 11:04 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Thanks, regrettably I can’t download it. I just get a 404 error and 
>>> emailing them I just get silence.
>>> 
>>> Oh dear!
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 18:58, The Believer >>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Mac DVDRipper Pro is $24.95 and quite accessible. This is the app under 
>>>> discussion at the moment. Trial version allows up to 5 dvds.
>>>> 
>>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/28/2015 10:51 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have seen discussion about DVD ripping but not given any attention. But 
>>>>> now I wish to rip some DVD’s I am not sure what package has been 
>>>>> discussed as being accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought it was Mac DVD Ripper Pro but I see that there is a more 
>>>>> expensive program with an X added to the name Macx DVD Ripper Pro. Which 
>>>>> one is accessible?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gena
>>>>> 
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Re: Which DVD software is it people are using?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Rob,

Yes, I paid for it on the basis that other blind users were able to work with 
it and it did what I wanted to do.

I did not expect not to be able to download it these past 3 days.

It would be useful if others get the 404 error either in the UK or further 
afield. I may request a copy later I want to see if they respond and I see if 
you sign up with 

Thanks.

Gena


> On 28 Apr 2015, at 20:00, Rob  <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that you did not download the trial?
> Because if you did, it should let you enter your license.
> if you want me to send you a dropbox link, let me know.
> mr.robertc...@icloud.com <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>
> 
> On 4/28/2015 1:35 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> That is the link from which I’ve purchased it then found I couldn’t download 
>> it. I clicked on the link:  Try It 
>> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>Download a free trial version
>> Rip your first 5 DVDs for free <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 19:05, The Believer >> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Try this link.
>>> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/ <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/>>
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2015 11:04 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, regrettably I can’t download it. I just get a 404 error and 
>>>> emailing them I just get silence.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh dear!
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 18:58, The Believer >>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Mac DVDRipper Pro is $24.95 and quite accessible. This is the app under 
>>>>> discussion at the moment. Trial version allows up to 5 dvds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>>>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/28/2015 10:51 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have seen discussion about DVD ripping but not given any attention. 
>>>>>> But now I wish to rip some DVD’s I am not sure what package has been 
>>>>>> discussed as being accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought it was Mac DVD Ripper Pro but I see that there is a more 
>>>>>> expensive program with an X added to the name Macx DVD Ripper Pro. Which 
>>>>>> one is accessible?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
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Re: Which DVD software is it people are using?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Done it folks! I changed the version number to 503 and it works. Or wget is 
pulling a file called MDRP_v503.zip. Oh well, the front page states the latest 
is 504 so I’m not far behind. Providing this information is correct.

I’m glad that this software is not very expensive. They really want to get 
their act together. I wonder if I’ll ever get a reply to my requests for help.

Thanks for those who offered help.

Gena


> On 28 Apr 2015, at 21:59, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I wonder what the filename is? I see from the 404 error it is trying:
> 
> http://cdn.macdvdripperpro.com/MDRP_v504.zip 
> <http://cdn.macdvdripperpro.com/MDRP_v504.zip>
> 
> 
> Is that how they have constructed the filename? i.e. MDRP in uppercase 
> followed by an underscore, lowercase v then the number followed by dot zip 
> extension?
> 
> HA! I see that domain with the cdn. prefix isn’t a valid domainname.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 19:35, Georgina Joyce > <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> That is the link from which I’ve purchased it then found I couldn’t download 
>> it. I clicked on the link: Try It 
>> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>Download a free trial version
>> Rip your first 5 DVDs for free <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/download/>.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 19:05, The Believer >> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Try this link.
>>> <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/ <http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/>>
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2015 11:04 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, regrettably I can’t download it. I just get a 404 error and 
>>>> emailing them I just get silence.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh dear!
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 18:58, The Believer >>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Mac DVDRipper Pro is $24.95 and quite accessible. This is the app under 
>>>>> discussion at the moment. Trial version allows up to 5 dvds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>>>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/28/2015 10:51 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have seen discussion about DVD ripping but not given any attention. 
>>>>>> But now I wish to rip some DVD’s I am not sure what package has been 
>>>>>> discussed as being accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought it was Mac DVD Ripper Pro but I see that there is a more 
>>>>>> expensive program with an X added to the name Macx DVD Ripper Pro. Which 
>>>>>> one is accessible?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
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Macbook Air and SD card problem

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I attempted to put files on a HCSD card via my Macbook Air and could not do it. 
The situation is I have a friend that is just getting used to a Victor Reader 
Stream. He is a technophobe so I need to provide him with reading material. I 
took a SD card reader my Air and stream to a meeting. I couldn’t get the Air to 
see my reader. So I hooked his Stream up. I saw it on Yosemite’s desktop. I 
dropped a text file in the route of $VRText. All appeared well, until I tried 
to eject the Stream. I tried cmd E, VO+Shift and M and the eject key. Non of 
which worked. I turned off the Stream and pulled the plug. The Stream didn’t 
see the file. However, looking at the Stream again there was the file. My time 
was limited and couldn’t faff about. I need to be able to just drop files on 
his SD and walk away. I cannot take his SD away because he’ll be without his 
Stream for a week or so. Therefore, I have the following questions:

Has anyone used a HCSD card successfully on an Air running on battery power?

Is there a HCSD card reader that the Macbook Air will use while on battery 
power? 

Has anyone used an Air to put files on a Victor Reader Stream on battery power?

Has anyone had a problem ejecting a mounted USB device with Yosemite? I 
certainly don’t on my Mac Mini but could it be an Air and Yosemite combined 
issue?

Looking at forum’s it appears that people have transferred files successfully 
using an Air. So I thought I’d ask here.

Many Thanks.
Gena

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Re: Macbook Air and SD card problem

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Myrna,

Thanks, I didn’t know about looking for the card reader. As for ejecting, I 
would have thought I did have it focused as the VO+Shift+M activated the 
context menu.

I’ve just tried again with my stream while the Air is on AC power. Ensuring I 
use the Humanware supplied cable. The SD appears on my desktop but I can’t 
eject it. I checked by using VO+F3 and VO+F4 and the Streams SD had VoiceOver 
and keyboard focus. CMD E nor VO+Shift+m and selecting eject did not eject the 
volume.

I obviously need to do some reading. Now it’s confirmed that it should work. 
Can you confirm that you are using Yosemite?

Thanks.

Gena



> On 29 May 2015, at 17:44, Myrna Votta  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gena and all,
> 
> I have transferred many files to my Stream, many times, using an HC SD card 
> with my Macbook Air.  My Air is the 11 inch model and therefore, it doesn't 
> have a built-in card reader.  So, I insert an HC SD card into an SD card 
> reader and then insert the reader into one of the USB ports.  I then go to 
> the desktop and if I cannot find the SD card as a volume, I press 
> command-shift-c to open Computer.  I will then find the card in the table.  
> After that, the SD card will appear on the desktop as a volume.  I don't know 
> why, but, it does.  As for ejecting the card or the VR Stream, I put the 
> voiceover cursor on either and then press command-e to do that.
> 
> Myrna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:33 PM
> To: AppleVis List
> Subject: Macbook Air and SD card problem
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I attempted to put files on a HCSD card via my Macbook Air and could not do 
> it. The situation is I have a friend that is just getting used to a Victor 
> Reader Stream. He is a technophobe so I need to provide him with reading 
> material. I took a SD card reader my Air and stream to a meeting. I couldn’t 
> get the Air to see my reader. So I hooked his Stream up. I saw it on 
> Yosemite’s desktop. I dropped a text file in the route of $VRText. All 
> appeared well, until I tried to eject the Stream. I tried cmd E, VO+Shift and 
> M and the eject key. Non of which worked. I turned off the Stream and pulled 
> the plug. The Stream didn’t see the file. However, looking at the Stream 
> again there was the file. My time was limited and couldn’t faff about. I need 
> to be able to just drop files on his SD and walk away. I cannot take his SD 
> away because he’ll be without his Stream for a week or so. Therefore, I have 
> the following questions:
> 
> Has anyone used a HCSD card successfully on an Air running on battery power?
> 
> Is there a HCSD card reader that the Macbook Air will use while on battery 
> power? 
> 
> Has anyone used an Air to put files on a Victor Reader Stream on battery 
> power?
> 
> Has anyone had a problem ejecting a mounted USB device with Yosemite? I 
> certainly don’t on my Mac Mini but could it be an Air and Yosemite combined 
> issue?
> 
> Looking at forum’s it appears that people have transferred files successfully 
> using an Air. So I thought I’d ask here.
> 
> Many Thanks.
> Gena
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External Synths

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

Having just heard the Mystic Access podcast, I wondered if Yosemite’s Voice 
Over supported external USB synths?

Thanks,

Gena

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Re: trying to root my moto G using terminal on the mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Erick,

Review the install procedure for fast boot. When you did ls did it have 
executable flag set?

The dollar usually represents the command prompts. i.e. this is what you type 
at the command line.

$ chmod u+x /usr/local/bin/fastboot

You might want to also try stating the full path in your command as you haven’t 
got /usr/local/bin in your path variable:

$ echo $PATH

HTH

Gena



> On 3 Jun 2015, at 22:32, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi,  I think there's a problem with what I'm trying to do.
> 
> I've installed fastboot in /usr/local/bin
> Then tried this command
> $ fastboot oem get_unlock_data
> 
> I get $ no such file or command.
> 
> So I tried without the $ and got:
> "permission denied"
> 
> Then I tried:
> sudo fastboot oem get_unlock_data
> I typed my password and hit enter and got:
> No such file or directory /usr/local/bin/fastboot
> 
> Next I did an LS and I could clearly see that fastboot is in /usr/local/bin.  
> I also checked for case and found there were no misplaced capitals.
> 
> I'm using the instructions for unlocking a boot loader from the motorola 
> website which you have to log in to get.
> 
> It reads:
> 
> 1 Put your device in fastboot mode (power off, then press the power and 
> volume down buttons simultaneously). 
> 2 On your desktop, open a command prompt or terminal, and go to the directory 
> where you installed the Android SDK tools (or make sure fastboot is in your 
> $PATH) 
> 3 At the prompt, type 
> $ fastboot oem get_unlock_data
> 4 The returned string will be used to retrieve your unlock key. Example: On a 
> Windows Desktop, the returned string format would be 
> blah blah,
> On a Mac OS Desktop, the returned string format would be
> blah blah,
> 
> Does anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> June is amazon gift card mania month at inclusive android.  For details on 
> how to enter for your chance to win a $25 gift card, please visit:
> http://www.inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/play-amazon-giftcard-mania-sweepstakes
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Re: Watch Screen Responsiveness with VoiceOver

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Don’t you mean 117.9 inches?

Gena

> On 26 Jun 2015, at 23:41, george b  wrote:
> 
> Actually they all have the same ratting according to apple when I called the 
> techs today and he looked up for each style and they all have the same 
> ratting up to 3 meeters for no mor then 30 minutes and for the question 3 
> meters is 39.3 inches.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 15:10
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watch Screen Responsiveness with VoiceOver
> 
> How do you measure three Metres in the water? I have a sports edition watch. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2015, at 11:22 pm, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  Actually, the sport edition can be taken into the shower. It is water proof 
>> up to 3 meters in the water. I wear mine in the shower.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Nick.
>>> 
>>> Please do not get the watch wet as Apple say that the watch is not water 
>>> proof.  It's fine in the rain but not in the shower.
>>> 
>>> About responsiveness, at times my watch crashes for no good reason and I 
>>> have either restart it or turn Voice Over on or off.  I turn the watch off 
>>> each night before I put it on charge as the watch will come back on when 
>>> you put it on the little magnetic pad.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 24 Jun 2015, at 23:35, Nicholas Parsons  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi list, and particularly to those of you who have Watches,
>>> 
>>> Two issues:
>>> 
>>> 1. I have activate on wrist-raise enabled, and speak on raise disabled. 
>>> When I raise my wrist, the screen remains off and Siri is not available. I 
>>> have to touch the screen before it activates and Siri becomes available. I 
>>> would like the screen to turn on when I raise my wrist, and Siri to 
>>> therefore become responsive to the “hey Siri” command, but I don’t want 
>>> VoiceOver to announce the time every time I raise my wrist. Does disabling 
>>> the VoiceOver speak on raise option override the activate on wrist-raise 
>>> option? Have any of you got your Watches to activate on wrist-raise 
>>> without VoiceOver speaking?
>>> 
>>> 2. My screen is sometimes unresponsive. Occasionally it takes several taps 
>>> on the screen before it activates. Sometimes tapping and swiping around on 
>>> the screen is a little slow and unresponsive. I usually notice this when 
>>> I’m in a rush, and my impatiens usually means I stuff things up and take 
>>> even longer. Usually when I’m relaxed and patient it works well enough. I’m 
>>> not sure whether this occasional lack of responsiveness is just because 
>>> it’s a 1.0 product which is relatively under powered, or if it has anything 
>>> to do with the fact that I wear it in the shower and frequently get it wet. 
>>> What have your experiences been with screen responsiveness?
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Re: Big Problem Updating my Mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I was wondering about this and wondered if he / she reported upon their free 
disk space? It could be that the update process couldn’t cash to hard disk for 
safe upgrading.

Just a  thought.

Gena

> On 27 Jun 2015, at 15:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Or you can go into the Purchased tab in your AppStore, interact with the 
> table and locate the OS X Yosemite item.  To the far right of that row should 
> be a Download or Install button.  You'd probably get a message that it may 
> already be installed but tell it to download anyway.  After it's finished 
> downloading, the installer will automatically open and you can run it from 
> there.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 19:22, Jeffrey Shockley  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Try looking at this site:
> http://www.apple.com/support/osx/software-updates/ 
> 
> There, you will find downloadable stand-alone installers for recent software 
> updates for OS X. These downloads are just DMG files that you open and run 
> the package installer just like any other installer packaged like these are. 
> I could be slightly wrong, so don’t quote me on that, however.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Lee Jones > > wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List, I hadn’t used my mac in a while and so had updates to install.  I 
>> did an update all, but after the computer restarted 10.10.3 was down as 
>> being installed in the app store, but when I go to about this mac it tells 
>> me I’m still running 10.10.2. Sometimes the 10.10.3 update is in both the 
>> updates available to install section, and  the updates installed in the last 
>> however long section at the same time.  More recently the app store is just 
>> busy all the time.  I have tried signing out and signing back in with no 
>> success. What is the least labour intensive way of solving this problem?  At 
>> the moment my mac is totally unupgradable.
>> 
>> Many Thanks, Lee
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Re: OS X Yosemite install issue...

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Try CMD F5 then reload VO CMD F5.

Gena

> On 7 Jul 2015, at 21:18, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi. After choosing disk utility from the utilities menu, it says disk
> utility is launched in the background. However, the window chooser has
> no contents and the application chooser says that only the language
> chooser is running. How odd...
> 
> Other things load in an instant, like firmeware password for example...
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/7/15, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
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>> Try using the Application Chooser menu with vo-f1-f1
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:44, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone. I created a bootable USB flash drive and am using it to
>>> do a clean install of OS X Yosemite but have encountered an issue...
>>> 
>>> I've done a clean install using this method for at least two previous
>>> versions of OS X without an issue...
>>> 
>>> When I boot from the flash drive and turn on voiceover, after
>>> selecting disk utility from the utilities menu, it just hangs there
>>> and says language chooser has no windows and the only thing in the
>>> menu bar is the apple menu where I can select the startup disk,
>>> restart, or shutdown, or, the language chooser menu, which appears to
>>> be empty. It doesn't seem to make a difference if I select the
>>> language or not...
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions on getting around this with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> I've restarted twice and the same thing happens. I also booted back
>>> into OS X and verified the internal hd as well as repairing disk
>>> permissions...
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

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Hello Donna,


Via Fine Reader I would have thought.

Gena

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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

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Hello Donna,

There’s also some free resources mentioned here..

http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-ocr-documents-online-with-abbyy-finereader--cms-20785


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> Hi Georgina,
> 
> Thanks.  I haven't used FineReader, so did not know that it could do that.  I 
> have K1000 on my PC, and it cannot work with JPG files, so I didn't assume 
> that FineReader could.  thanks for the tip.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Georgina Joyce > <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
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>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> 
>> Via Fine Reader I would have thought.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
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>>> Question says it all.  If anyone knows of a way to do this, I'd really 
>>> appreciate the help.
>>> Cheers,
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The Moodle interface and VoiceOver

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I’m considering an online course that uses something called the moodle. I 
wondered if anyone had come across this interface and how VO managed it either 
via a iMac or mobile device?

Your report of your experiences would be most useful.

Thanks.

Gena

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Doing a Keynote presentation

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Hello All,

I will be doing a keynote presentation later this year. I hopefully will be 
able to take my Apple TV to hook up to their screen and I should be able to 
take it from there. Looking at keynote, I can start the presentation but is it 
easy to go back etc. I wondered if anyone who has done this and what tips they 
could offer about keynote or Apple TV configuration? I want to spend time on 
the technology now so that my focus can be on the content rather than playing 
with gadgets.

Thanks.

Gena

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Re: Doing a Keynote presentation

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Hello Tim,

Sorry, I should have said, I had planned on using my iPhone or iPad.

Gena

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> Hi,
> 
> Once the presentation is going, you can use right arrow to move forward and 
> left arrow to move bac.  You can also use either spacebar or return to 
> advance through slides.  The Apple Remote also works in Keynote to be able to 
> advance and go back.  Test them out and see how it works for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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> Hello All,
> 
> I will be doing a keynote presentation later this year. I hopefully will be 
> able to take my Apple TV to hook up to their screen and I should be able to 
> take it from there. Looking at keynote, I can start the presentation but is 
> it easy to go back etc. I wondered if anyone who has done this and what tips 
> they could offer about keynote or Apple TV configuration? I want to spend 
> time on the technology now so that my focus can be on the content rather than 
> playing with gadgets.
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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Public Beta Program

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Hello,

You should examine why you want to use beta software. If you have one device 
that is vital to be working at all time then don’t install beta software. Too 
many people are complaining about problems with beta software but they signed 
up to put up with bugs and report them to Apple so that we don’t have those 
problems when it is formally released. If you have the time to give to Apple 
and a spare device to test beta software then I guess we’ll all benefit from 
your input. But if it is to meet your desire then you are doing it for the 
wrong reasons.

Do not sign up if your concerned about having to roll back.

Gena


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> I have been thinking about signing up for the beta program for a while now. 
> If I install a public beta of iOS 9, will I be able to roll back to iOS 8? 
> Will my iPhone backups, made with iOS 9 be backwards compatible with iOS 8 if 
> I rollback?
> Thank you
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi all
>> I now have both iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 El Capitan public beta on my devices. 
>> While I cannot go into the specifics, I am really liking the program which 
>> anyone can sign up to so long as they have an Apple ID. Note! Since this is 
>> prerelease software, it's not for the faint of heart.  The Feedback 
>> Assistant apps that come with the program is awesome! I will definitely! 
>> enrol in future public betas, rather than renew my developer account with 
>> Apple as I find the bug reporting system on there to be clunky. Not so with 
>> the public beta program. Best of all, the public beta program is at the 
>> right price smile.
>> For those like me who are adventurous, give it a shot.
>> Happy hacking!
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Re: one more printer wuersltion

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Hello Jim,

Well here in the UK, eBay have a good number of sellers. I’m guessing Amazon 
does too. Here’s one here. It gives you the part number. Perhaps you want to 
look on HP’s website for the part number.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-C4096A-Compatible-Toner-For-HP-Laserjet-2100-2200-Printer-Cartridge-Black-/261336698095?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cd8e18cef


> On 10 Aug 2015, at 13:51, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
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> Hi all!
> One more printer question.  I Have this laser printer HP2100 pcl6 and have 
> had it for years.  I've been looking online(maybe in the wrong place) to try 
> and find a toner cartridge for it.  Anybody have specific sites they buy 
> cartridges from here in the u.s.?
> Thanks,
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Re: another braille question..

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Hello David,

There has been for some time 6 dot computer braille. Anyone used the original 
braille n Speak saw this.

Lower case letters a - j were numbers and abbreviations like the t.h. 1 and 
4,5,6, was punctuation such as the question mark and brackets. etc. Before 8 
dot braille. I think some people call it grade 0.

Regards.

Gena
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> Computer braille is the same as 8-dot braille. In computer braille, there is 
> a different dot pattern for each symbol. For letters, uppercase letters have 
> dot 7 added to the letter. Numbers and punctuation are different. Remember, 
> print is not contracted.
> 
> One cannot have contracted braille checked if one wishes to use computer 
> braille.
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>> Hi,
>> OK, this is probably a stupid one, but is computer braille the same as 8 dot?
>> 
>> And, if I have 8 dot mode turned on, can I leave the contracted box ticked?
>> 
>> I suppose I’ll have to get used to reading in 8 dot mode if this is the same 
>> as computer braille, but honestly, so far, when I’ve tried using it, it bugs 
>> me-it’s like reading grade one!
>> 
>> Thanks for any help!
>> Caitlyn
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Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event

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Hello,

No there’s no new watch. The Mac isn’t dead it’s the Windows desktop machine 
that is dead.

Regards,

Gena

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>> I got out of the address:
>> 
>> 1.  The Mac is dead.  The iPad Pro is clearly set to kill it, and Apple 
>> wants to be in the driver’s seat when that happens.  And:
>> 
>> 2.  Downgrade to Yosemite.  It’s a better use of your time than watching 
>> these things.  For the probable reason see point 1 above.  OS X gets buggier 
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Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event

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Hello,

Another way of looking at it is that our behaviour in our choices. Are what 
Apple are responding to in the products that they offer. Many of these messages 
on these lists state that they are sent from an iPhone or such other mobile 
device. We just don’t want to go into our offices and sit at a desk and wait 
for a PC or Mac to boot up. We’ll never go back to being tied to a desktop 
machine like we were just a few years ago. That’s how I understood Tim’s 
comments. The power of the Pro is allowing users to do more than they did at 
their desktops. I think Tim stated that this was customers testimony. Wasn’t it 
a film maker using Pro’s instead of desktop machines.

Why even Microsoft are producing mobile hardware. Unheard of years ago.

Times are a changing folks.

Gena


> On 27 Mar 2016, at 05:35, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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> With the intro of another iPad Pro and re-intro of 4" iPhone SE. This was in 
> addition to the other hardware SKUs that seem to be added with each hardware 
> intro event.
> This is almost dé·jà vu of when Pepsi CEO  had every pro/consumer hardware 
> SKUs under the planet that utterly confused and overhwelmed the market. Too 
> bad we won't be able to have Steve Jobs come back in and make the simple 4x4 
> grid of pro/consumer and desktop/laptop. . The magic, "just works" and 
> simpleintuitive Apple is long gone...
> 
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:41 AM 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Not sure I would call it a Mac issue. The rate of growth of Mac sales
> have slowed from last year in Q4 (2.8% up) but that's better than the
> overall PC market which shrank (8.3% down). Might just be an indication
> of overall market trends. That said, PCs (in the generic sense) tend to
> be more durable than mobile devices which get replaced far more often
> and generally cost more. So maybe the PC market is just getting
> saturated. My wife's MacBook is now 8 years old and still works fine. In
> that same time period she went through three phones. Maybe not typical
> but I wouldn't declare the death of the PC platform based just on unit
> sales.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/26/16 6:23 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> > I’d watch it.  The bits you’re interested in are at the start, where Apple 
> > talk about recycling, and the end, where Apple proclaim that it’s “Really 
> > sad” that people are using PCs that are five years old.
> >
> > Me?  Cynical?  Never! :)
> >
> > I think the Mac is dead, anyway.  Well, if you disagree, cool beans, but I 
> > think it’s fairly evident that Macs fall under the general umbrella of PCs. 
> >  And, don’t you think it’s fairly apparent from the non-appearance of new 
> > Macs and the quality of OS X nowadays?
> >
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Re: Apple Watch Bands

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Thanks, to those raising these issues of cheaper bands. I have purchased a 
magnetic band for less than £20 which has arrived today. Is there a podcast 
describing how to change them? I’m sure I heard one from David Woodbridge but I 
can’t find it on the iSee site.

Thanks,

Gena

> On 5 Apr 2016, at 00:14, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> I got the silver one. My watch band is going to arrive before my watch.
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Jenine Stanley > > wrote:
>> 
>> I just bought a black Milanese Loop for $13, marked down from $65. We’ll see 
>> what it looks and feels like.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Caitlyn Furness >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I second this-thanks!  I can’t find the one you suggest in amazon.ca 
>>> , but they have lots of others for way less then the 
>>> name brand ones!
>>> 
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli >>> > wrote:
 
 Well heck! It looks like the $150 band I love from Apple. Thanks, Alex. I 
 just ordered it.
> On Apr 3, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
> I got a third-party band last week, and it's been wonderful so far. It's 
> the Aerb Stainless Steel Milanese Loop band, which comes in black or 
> silver. Here's the link:
> http://www.amazon.com/Aerb-Milanese-Stainless-Bracelet-Unique/dp/B01A7ZFN04/ref=sr_1_2
>  
> 
> 
> I love it because it's sturdy and metal, so should be durable, but is 
> also mesh, so it breathes. The Sport band is nice, but always made my 
> wrist a bit sweaty by the end of the day. This band I could wear 24/7. 
> Plus, it's magnetic, so is adjustable to exactly how you want, not to 
> specific holes. If you want one, act now, because they're on sale! The 
> company also makes other bands, but I haven't tried them. I also haven't 
> had this one for long, so in six months, it might break. I don't know. 
> For now, though, I'm thrilled with it.
>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 12:26, Sarai Bucciarelli > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys:
>> Well, I ended up deciding to get the Apple 38MM sport. It wasn’t the one 
>> I really wanted, but  Amazon had it cheap, and i had some Amazon gift 
>> cards. If I like it, I’ll buy the Stainless Steel watch I really want on 
>> a future watch upgrade. My question is has anyone tried one of the 3rd 
>> party watch bands that are on the market? I really don’t like the band 
>> that comes with the sport, so was going to find a different one, that is 
>> much cheaper.
>> 
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Re: Apple Watch Bands

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Jenine,

Many thanks, this was most helpful.

Gena
> On 5 Apr 2016, at 15:16, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Changing the bands is a little interesting at first. My biggest issue is 
> gripping the Watch itself to get the leverage to remove the band. 
> 
> Turn your Watch over so that the part that touches your wrist is facing 
> upward. 
> 
> On either end where the bands attach on the unbderside there is a slight 
> indented rectangle. This is where you press to release the band. I believe 
> they only slide in one way so once you find that, positioning the Watch is 
> easy. I keep forgetting exactly which way they go in and out though. sorry. 
> 
> So, I try to use a fingernail to press on the indented rectangle while 
> pulling the band off. Once the mechanism is unlatched, the band should slide 
> easily off. 
> 
> Follow the same procedure to attach the new band. I like to position it all 
> first so I know which side I want going which way. 
> 
> This task is easier to do I think if you have larger fingers. Hope that 
> helped.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Georgina Joyce > <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Thanks, to those raising these issues of cheaper bands. I have purchased a 
>> magnetic band for less than £20 which has arrived today. Is there a podcast 
>> describing how to change them? I’m sure I heard one from David Woodbridge 
>> but I can’t find it on the iSee site.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 5 Apr 2016, at 00:14, Sarai Bucciarelli >> <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got the silver one. My watch band is going to arrive before my watch.
>>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Jenine Stanley >>> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just bought a black Milanese Loop for $13, marked down from $65. We’ll 
>>>> see what it looks and feels like.
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>> <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I second this-thanks!  I can’t find the one you suggest in amazon.ca 
>>>>> <http://amazon.ca/>, but they have lots of others for way less then the 
>>>>> name brand ones!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Caitlyn
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>>>> mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well heck! It looks like the $150 band I love from Apple. Thanks, Alex. 
>>>>>> I just ordered it.
>>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Alex Hall >>>>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got a third-party band last week, and it's been wonderful so far. 
>>>>>>> It's the Aerb Stainless Steel Milanese Loop band, which comes in black 
>>>>>>> or silver. Here's the link:
>>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Aerb-Milanese-Stainless-Bracelet-Unique/dp/B01A7ZFN04/ref=sr_1_2
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Aerb-Milanese-Stainless-Bracelet-Unique/dp/B01A7ZFN04/ref=sr_1_2>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I love it because it's sturdy and metal, so should be durable, but is 
>>>>>>> also mesh, so it breathes. The Sport band is nice, but always made my 
>>>>>>> wrist a bit sweaty by the end of the day. This band I could wear 24/7. 
>>>>>>> Plus, it's magnetic, so is adjustable to exactly how you want, not to 
>>>>>>> specific holes. If you want one, act now, because they're on sale! The 
>>>>>>> company also makes other bands, but I haven't tried them. I also 
>>>>>>> haven't had this one for long, so in six months, it might break. I 
>>>>>>> don't know. For now, though, I'm thrilled with it.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 12:26, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>>>>>> mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>

Re: VR stream and mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Even in my Mac Mini’s SD Card slot seems to be temperamental. The only way that 
hasn’t failed so far is to hook up the stream to the Mac using the USB lead and 
leaving the card in the stream and then turning on the stream. But then I have 
problems in ejecting the stream when I’ve finished loading my files. It’s a 
flaky routine but it can be done.

HTH

Gena


> On 1 May 2016, at 17:01, Carter Temm  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Surely I’, not the only one who’s asked or wondered about this. Is there a 
> way to put content on the BR stream using the mac? I’m almost sure this is 
> something I’ve done before, but when ever I insert my SD card, it says 
> something like this device was not readable by this computer.
> Any ideas?
> thanks
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Re: VR stream and mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Gabe,

It’s been some time now but I’m sure I formatted the card on the stream before 
using it. Have you used a 32Gig card without any problem?

Thanks,

Gena

> On 1 May 2016, at 18:25, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you're going to reformat the SD card I recommend using the format SD card 
> option on the stream. I have used this with all my new SD cards and my mac's 
> card reader doesn't have a problem recognizing the cards. If you're able to 
> use the card slot on your computer I find that the content transfers faster 
> and the mac ejects the card better than if you use your stream connected to 
> the computer.
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On May 1, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
>> I recommend erasing the drive and having the Sream re-format it. Some 
>> formats that work for Windows and Linux are not as supported on the 
>> Macintosh. Perhaps formatting as FAT or FAT 32 with Disk Utility will get it 
>> to be readable on both systems. Also, there are a couple of different 
>> SD-Card types depending on the capacity and perhaps speed of the drive. It 
>> might be that the card itself is not compatible with your card reader. In 
>> this case, disk utility would not see the card either. I believe an external 
>> card reader would help with this issue.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 May 2016, at 12:16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Even in my Mac Mini’s SD Card slot seems to be temperamental. The only way 
>>> that hasn’t failed so far is to hook up the stream to the Mac using the USB 
>>> lead and leaving the card in the stream and then turning on the stream. But 
>>> then I have problems in ejecting the stream when I’ve finished loading my 
>>> files. It’s a flaky routine but it can be done.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 May 2016, at 17:01, Carter Temm  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Surely I’, not the only one who’s asked or wondered about this. Is there a 
>>>> way to put content on the BR stream using the mac? I’m almost sure this is 
>>>> something I’ve done before, but when ever I insert my SD card, it says 
>>>> something like this device was not readable by this computer.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> thanks
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Re: Battery on an iPhone 6s

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Those with battery issues should look under settings / battery. Which will give 
an indication what app is draining their battery. If you allow lots of apps to 
monitor your location these are usually the culprits.

Regards,

Gena

> On 3 May 2016, at 16:23, Seyoon Choi  wrote:
> 
> I also heard iPhone SE has a very impressive battery life because the A9 
> powering the 6S and 6S Plus is what this chip was optimized for. Powering 
> lower res 4inch screen and bigger battery inside the SE might make up for 
> this reasoning. Though it’s not as good as 6S Plus it’s certainly close. 
> CAn’t beat out the logic of physics and the size of battery itself.
>> On May 3, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So this is why it says active for some apps in the appswitcher?
>> /A
>>> On 03 May 2016, at 17:02, Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Make sure you do not let your phone get to warm.  Do not leave it out where 
>>> the sun will warm it for example.  Heat is the enemy of your battery.
>>> 
>>> Also, stuff in the task manager may be actively pinging so it is a good 
>>> idea to clean it out.  For example, if i remove my SIP phone application 
>>> from the switcher power usage decreases measurably.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 3, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, i have done that several times but for me it does not help much.
 /A
> On 03 May 2016, at 01:49, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I occasionally run my battery down to zero so that the phone actually 
> shuts down from lack of battery. I don't know if this helps but I've 
> heard that this helps to reset the battery. Of course after running it 
> down to dark, I put it on the charger until it's 100% again. Occasionally 
> I get a weird battery day where I run out of battery before expected. But 
> those days are rare and when they occur I just close everything out and 
> reboot the phone and it seems to clear up.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Jenine Stanley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d love to see any responses to this, Mary as I’m finding the same 
>> thing on my 6S. I rarely make it through 8 hours without getting down to 
>> 18%or so.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> It seems to me that the battery life on my iPhone 6s is not anything 
>>> close to what it was when I got this phone towards the end of last 
>>> year. Of course, memory overtime is subjective, and I am a heavy user 
>>> of the phone. I saw a recently a post somewhere the talked about being 
>>> able to check the battery cycles on your Mac. And the person who wrote 
>>> the article said that he was pleasantly surprised to see that his Mac 
>>> still had lots of battery cycles left. Is there anyway to do that with 
>>> the phone? I bought my phone through my carrier. And I suspect that if 
>>> I go there and say that my battery life is not like it used to be, they 
>>> are going to say something like prove it. And I can't. Any advice?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: VR stream and mac

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Are you connecting the USB lead to the computer with the stream turned off? 
Then you are getting the error after turning on the stream and it announces 
that the player is connected?

Regards,

Gena

> On 3 May 2016, at 03:10, Carter Temm  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, still get an error saying The disk you inserted was not readable by 
> this computer when I plug the stream directly in to the computer with the USB 
> cable.
>> On May 1, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you're going to reformat the SD card I recommend using the format SD card 
>> option on the stream. I have used this with all my new SD cards and my mac's 
>> card reader doesn't have a problem recognizing the cards. If you're able to 
>> use the card slot on your computer I find that the content transfers faster 
>> and the mac ejects the card better than if you use your stream connected to 
>> the computer.
>> 
>> Gabe
>> 
>> 
>> On May 1, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>>> I recommend erasing the drive and having the Sream re-format it. Some 
>>> formats that work for Windows and Linux are not as supported on the 
>>> Macintosh. Perhaps formatting as FAT or FAT 32 with Disk Utility will get 
>>> it to be readable on both systems. Also, there are a couple of different 
>>> SD-Card types depending on the capacity and perhaps speed of the drive. It 
>>> might be that the card itself is not compatible with your card reader. In 
>>> this case, disk utility would not see the card either. I believe an 
>>> external card reader would help with this issue.
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 May 2016, at 12:16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Even in my Mac Mini’s SD Card slot seems to be temperamental. The only way 
>>>> that hasn’t failed so far is to hook up the stream to the Mac using the 
>>>> USB lead and leaving the card in the stream and then turning on the 
>>>> stream. But then I have problems in ejecting the stream when I’ve finished 
>>>> loading my files. It’s a flaky routine but it can be done.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 May 2016, at 17:01, Carter Temm  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Surely I’, not the only one who’s asked or wondered about this. Is there 
>>>>> a way to put content on the BR stream using the mac? I’m almost sure this 
>>>>> is something I’ve done before, but when ever I insert my SD card, it says 
>>>>> something like this device was not readable by this computer.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> thanks
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Does IOS 9 or El Capitan have the voice memo app?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I have a 6S Plus and don’t have an app called voice memo. A friend tells me it 
is a standard app that is a part of IOS. I looked on the app store and don’t 
see an app of that name by Apple. A Google search gives me plenty of guides to 
use this simple app but no idea how to get it on my phone. Is it an app that 
has been removed from the standard distribution of IOS?

If it has been removed. What do you recommend to make voice recordings that 
maintain a quality audio recording while keeping the file size down. I know 
that people are using roger but the recipient of my voice memos / recordings 
does not want to install another app.

As I have a very good microphone connected to my Mac mini I’ve been using 
QuickTime but I can’t reduce the file size to send via email.

Looking forward to hearing your responses.

Thanks,

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Re: Does IOS 9 or El Capitan have the voice memo app?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Carter Tenn,

Many thanks I have got it.

Regards

Gena


 
> On 12 May 2016, at 23:43, Carter Temm  wrote:
> 
> To find voice memos, look in the extras folder. It should be there
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 12, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have a 6S Plus and don’t have an app called voice memo. A friend tells me 
>> it is a standard app that is a part of IOS. I looked on the app store and 
>> don’t see an app of that name by Apple. A Google search gives me plenty of 
>> guides to use this simple app but no idea how to get it on my phone. Is it 
>> an app that has been removed from the standard distribution of IOS?
>> 
>> If it has been removed. What do you recommend to make voice recordings that 
>> maintain a quality audio recording while keeping the file size down. I know 
>> that people are using roger but the recipient of my voice memos / recordings 
>> does not want to install another app.
>> 
>> As I have a very good microphone connected to my Mac mini I’ve been using 
>> QuickTime but I can’t reduce the file size to send via email.
>> 
>> Looking forward to hearing your responses.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
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Re: Unresponsive text input field [Was: No sound in vm's after upgrading to VMware 8]

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,


It’s been a long time!

I just tried the link and typed a number in that field. Use the tab key. No 
need to use that interacting behaviour.

I don’t know what version you were using but I was using my 2013 Air still 
running Yosemite

All the best

Gena


> On 6 Jan 2016, at 01:43, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi, All:
> 
> I was just on the phone with VMware tech support. The idea was that we
> would establish a Webex session that would allow the tech access to my
> Airbook to figure out, hopefully, what's wrong with the sound in my
> virtual machines.
> 
> I was unable to get him on. Per his instructions, I opened Safari to
> http://vmware.webex.com and attempted to put his 9 digit code in the
> edit text field. I believe I was correctly focused on the field, but my
> typing did nothing. No chars were echoed, nor did any end up in the
> field.
> 
> Anyone have a thought on what I might be doing wrong? I did the usual
> VO plus down arrow, and Voice told me I was interacting with the field.
> But nothing happened. No chars entered, no chars echoed.
> 
> 
> Meanwhile, I'm having no problems typing in any other field within
> Safari, on http://ddg.gg, for instance. VO works as expected there.
> 
> Frustrating.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Janina Sajka writes:
>> Hi, All:
>> 
>> I've been happily using VMware 7 with both a Windows 7 and Linux virtual
>> machines. I have recently upgraded to the latest VMware 8 Fusion and no 
>> longer
>> get sound in my vm's. My Apple is latest release of El Capitain.
>> 
>> The sound devices are showing selected. I know my Linux vm is running
>> correctly because I can ssh in. It's local audio settings are correct as
>> confirmed via the amixer command.
>> 
>> Before I ask VMware for help, I'm wondering whether anyone else has
>> bumped into this annoyance?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Janina
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Re: Unresponsive text input field [Was: No sound in vm's after upgrading to VMware 8]

[Georgina Joyce]

> On 7 Jan 2016, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>> Hello Janina,
>> 
>> 
>> It’s been a long time!
> Yes, indeed. Very good to hear from you. Hoping all is well!
>> It is thanks. I hope all is good for you too.



>> I just tried the link and typed a number in that field. Use the tab key. No 
>> need to use that interacting behaviour.
> Thanks for checking it out. Perhaps it's some kind of artifact of my
> being on El Capitan? I've tab'd, and tried both with and without
> VO+Shift+Down. I get nothing with Safari or Chrome. I was successful
> with Firefox, so maybe that will suffice when next I talk with VMware.
> 
I’m glad you have a solution. It can be very difficult for us to undertake a 
task that most of the world consider to be a job that takes just a few seconds. 

> I had a look at the source code. It's wall to wall javascript, and I've
> heard Apple employees complain about how Cisco products underperform on
> Mac platforms.
> 
I see, I didn’t know that. It’s been a long time since I observed raw source.

> Thanks again for the sanity check.
> 
No problem. Please keep us informed what these audio issues are. I Was about to 
invest in Fusion 8 as I’m missing using K1000 and considering going the virtual 
route.

>> All the best
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Jan 2016, at 01:43, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All:
>>> 
>>> I was just on the phone with VMware tech support. The idea was that we
>>> would establish a Webex session that would allow the tech access to my
>>> Airbook to figure out, hopefully, what's wrong with the sound in my
>>> virtual machines.
>>> 
>>> I was unable to get him on. Per his instructions, I opened Safari to
>>> http://vmware.webex.com and attempted to put his 9 digit code in the
>>> edit text field. I believe I was correctly focused on the field, but my
>>> typing did nothing. No chars were echoed, nor did any end up in the
>>> field.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a thought on what I might be doing wrong? I did the usual
>>> VO plus down arrow, and Voice told me I was interacting with the field.
>>> But nothing happened. No chars entered, no chars echoed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, I'm having no problems typing in any other field within
>>> Safari, on http://ddg.gg, for instance. VO works as expected there.
>>> 
>>> Frustrating.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Janina Sajka writes:
 Hi, All:
 
 I've been happily using VMware 7 with both a Windows 7 and Linux virtual
 machines. I have recently upgraded to the latest VMware 8 Fusion and no 
 longer
 get sound in my vm's. My Apple is latest release of El Capitain.
 
 The sound devices are showing selected. I know my Linux vm is running
 correctly because I can ssh in. It's local audio settings are correct as
 confirmed via the amixer command.
 
 Before I ask VMware for help, I'm wondering whether anyone else has
 bumped into this annoyance?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Janina
 
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Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Tongue in cheek, I think this is more in line with Apple’s policy:

5 Structures that are missing in a society with a disability:

A fully accessible system whereby blind people can independently engage and 
vote in political elections. Visually impaired people define accessibility and 
good practice via frequent consultation.

A complete network of clear walk-ways that contain braille as well as print 
street names with accessible crossing points at all junctions that are 
frequently maintained.

Transit services such as buses, trains and aeroplane providers provide 
accessible information on all aspects of their service, carriages with suitable 
seating and space for guide dogs and other mobility aids, clear audible 
announcements of every stopping point.

Every individual with a visual impairment to be given at the point of request, 
magnification and lighting  equipment, braille lessons, braille equipment such 
as writers and refreshable displays and their ongoing maintenance. All emerging 
technologies that provide solutions to be included as with magnification and 
braille above.

Free at the point of request legal advocacy to enforce equality legislation 
such as the UK’s equality Act 2010. As with US’s 508 no authority should by 
products or services from websites or showrooms that fail to meet accessibility 
requirements.


> On 15 Jan 2016, at 03:09, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
> 
> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both
> the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired 
> By Robert Siciliano
> April 27, 2015 
> 
> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having
> vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll
> get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen
> in order to stay on the cutting edge.
> 
> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help
> some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it
> easier for them to go about their daily lives.
> 
> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your
> iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are
> helping the blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 1.
> Shoes that guide you in the right direction
> if you're walking somewhere new, you no longer need to focus on the audible
> directions from your smartphone. Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide
> instead. The insoles of the shoes connect with the corresponding app
> (available for iOS, Android and Windows) via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a
> vibration will alert you when you need to turn. A buzz in your left shoe
> will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing gets stronger as the turn
> nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means to turn in that direction.
> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
> 
> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this
> feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people
> around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian
> Lawrence, the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most
> tech today that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio
> feedback, but if you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense
> of hearing, so the feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus
> on what's around you."
> 
> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected
> to start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for
> navigating hiking trails.
> 
> 2.
> Glasses that help the color blind see color
> Although they look like typical sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind
> people see all different hues. Color blindness results from spectral
> overlap, which is when the photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in
> retinal cone cells) absorb more light than they should. Usually, of the
> three types of cones in the retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs
> blue light and a third absorbs red light. If a green cone absorbs too much
> red light, for example, that spectral overlap means that the person will
> have a difficult time distinguishing those colors.
> 
> The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green
> colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete,
> making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact
> technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and
> linear programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's
> Notes are that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones,
> crea

Re: Restoring a backup gone horribly wrong.

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I don’t suppose you had siri turned on? “Turn voice over on” would have done it.

Regards,

Gena

> On 16 Jan 2016, at 14:35, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> not that this is a contest or anything, but 800 apps? My! God! And I thought 
> I had a lot.
> 
> dare I ask that you list all of them?
> 
> No… I don't think I will… LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 16, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Basioli George  > wrote:
> 
>> just so you know it does not put your apps back on the device. it sees 
>> howmany you have backed up and their names and when your all backed up then 
>> your device redownloads the apps to the device.  i have over 800 and it 
>> takes several hours sometimes.
>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone on I O S ever experienced this?
>>>  
>>> I had an issue with my phone this morning.  I don't know what it thought 
>>> it's problem was, but the short version of the story is, I had to restore 
>>> the dad blamed thing to factory settings.
>>>  
>>> I had a backup which I'd made in ITunes.  I tried restoring from that 
>>> backup, and what a disaster!  Out of all 70 something odd apps, I think 
>>> only about 20 to 25 of them came down, none of my e-mail accounts were 
>>> configured like before, none of my pared bluetooth devices were recognized, 
>>> therefore making me have to repare all of them again, my Apple Watch 
>>> thought it was still connected, even though the Watch app on my phone 
>>> didn't see it, therefore making me also have to reset the watch to default 
>>> settings in order to get back where I could reconnect the thing.
>>>  
>>> Also, on my home screen of the phone, only about 2 of the 6 or 7 folders 
>>> I'd custom created came down correctly.
>>>  
>>> Believe me.  I've restored many times from various backups, and never have 
>>> I had an issue like this.  Come to think of it, Voiceover didn't even come 
>>> up after restoring.  I had to use the very little vision I have, put in my 
>>> 4 digit passcode, as my touch ID didn't work until I did so, and only then 
>>> after putting in the code did Voiceover come up.  I couldn't even tripple 
>>> click the home key.
>>>  
>>> I made absolutely 100% sure that this was the most recent backup, and that 
>>> all the above things were included in the backup, which they definitely 
>>> were.
>>>  
>>> So, I'm curious if anyone knows what may have happened, and why?
>>>  
>>> Chris, who is quite annoyed right about now.  Shrugs!
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a hard 
wired device to be more efficient.

Gena

> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
> two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
> Now to the strange issue.
> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
> and 11mbps upload.
> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
> their site.
> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
> Any ideas?
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Re: iphone 6s fingerprint reader

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

This happens to me. I’ve tried different resets but the only one that works is 
to delete all prints and redo them.

Regards,

Gena

> On 3 Feb 2016, at 09:34, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried putting in the pin code to unlock the phone and see if that is 
> working correctly?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2016 7:36 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 6s fingerprint reader
> 
> I used the finger I setup, if that is what you mean.
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> I know this will seem like a crazy question but have you used the correct 
>> finger?
>> 
>> Have you tried your pin code and then relock your phone and attempt with 
>> your finger to unlock it again?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 3:06 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone 6s fingerprint reader
>> 
>> Hi:
>> I don’t have a case that covers the reader. Just a speck case that covers 
>> the back and a screen protector. I did scan with case off.
>>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It probably is your case actually.  Make sure when you do your original 
>>> scans of your finger you do it with the case off.  This tends to work 
>>> better.
>>> 
>>> Other than that though, no I havenever had fingerprints stop working on me 
>>> over time.
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Has anyone had issues with the iphone 6s’s fingerprint reader? I’ll set 
 it, the reader works for a while,then will stop. I’m sure it isn’t the 
 case.
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Re: iPhone 5SE

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Simon,

I get my information from IOS Today podcast. Rob suggests that there has been a 
big demand for a 4inch phone to replace the 5 and 5S. He suggested that it is 
likely to be announced in March of this year. But you all must realise that 
Apple do everything to keep commercial sensitive information from being leaked. 
So rumours are just that. From memory Rob suggested that the new phone might be 
called the 6C. It’ll be interesting to see how they manage the battery 
situation because a big attraction for the plus is the battery life.

All we can do is just wait and see. It’s pointless in producing a lot of mis 
informed hot air. It’s rumoured and that is it!

Regards,
Gena




> On 4 Feb 2016, at 08:37, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi List, not sure this should be listed here but I just wondered if anyone 
> has heard of the new iPhone that’s to be released?
>  
> I believe it’s to be called the iPhone 5SE or something similar to that.
> It was mentioned to me at work today 
> And I’ve just been reading about it on mac rumours.
>  
> Interesting I just wondered if anyone state side had heard more on it other 
> than it’s rumoured release around the time of later this year.
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Re: iPhone 5SE

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Whoops, the podcast is TII Today In IOS.

Apologies,

Gena

> On 4 Feb 2016, at 12:53, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> I get my information from IOS Today podcast. Rob suggests that there has been 
> a big demand for a 4inch phone to replace the 5 and 5S. He suggested that it 
> is likely to be announced in March of this year. But you all must realise 
> that Apple do everything to keep commercial sensitive information from being 
> leaked. So rumours are just that. From memory Rob suggested that the new 
> phone might be called the 6C. It’ll be interesting to see how they manage the 
> battery situation because a big attraction for the plus is the battery life.
> 
> All we can do is just wait and see. It’s pointless in producing a lot of mis 
> informed hot air. It’s rumoured and that is it!
> 
> Regards,
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Feb 2016, at 08:37, Simon Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
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>> has heard of the new iPhone that’s to be released?
>>  
>> I believe it’s to be called the iPhone 5SE or something similar to that.
>> It was mentioned to me at work today 
>> And I’ve just been reading about it on mac rumours.
>>  
>> Interesting I just wondered if anyone state side had heard more on it other 
>> than it’s rumoured release around the time of later this year.
>>  
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Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello all ,

I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input my 
abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.

Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.

Many thanks

Gena

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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Jonathan,

That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the Mac 
You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, you have 
to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple keyboard. So 
I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is great for bigger 
snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering abbreviations on the Mac? I 
wonder if you use a lot of the braille contractions? I had put them in my phone 
but then removed them because I put a space after them. I used the semicolon 
for the 4,5 prefix and the colon for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.

Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
length?

I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
above.

https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support

Kind regards,

Gena

> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge time 
> saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in expansion 
> into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get regularly, and I 
> like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on all my OS X and 
> iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce > <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all ,
>> 
>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
>> my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>> 
>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Jonathan,

I’ve just answered my own question. Yes, they should sync across but mine isn’t 
so just investigating.

Gena

> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge time 
> saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in expansion 
> into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get regularly, and I 
> like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on all my OS X and 
> iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce > <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all ,
>> 
>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
>> my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>> 
>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Anne,

Much appreciated. That’s a lot easier. Thanks.

Gena

> On 17 Feb 2016, at 07:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gena,
> 
> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
> • Select Text;
> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
> 
> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce > <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
>> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon 
>> for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>> 
>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
>> length?
>> 
>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>> above.
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>> <https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support>
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen >> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce >>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all ,
>>>> 
>>>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
>>>> my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>>>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>>>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Yes it is a part of OS X and IOS current versions. Not sure how long they’ve 
been there just look under keyboard  preferences in OS x preferences, keyboard 
and on the text tab. For IOS in Settings, general, keyboard and the text 
expansion button.

Regards,

Gena

> On 17 Feb 2016, at 13:18, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is this built-in to the mac and Iphone?
> Or do you have to buy it somewhere.
> /A
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 08:01, Anne Robertson > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gena,
>> 
>> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
>> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
>> • Select Text;
>> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
>> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
>> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
>> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
>> 
>> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce >> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>> 
>>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I 
>>> put a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the 
>>> colon for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>>> 
>>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum 
>>> character length?
>>> 
>>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>>> above.
>>> 
>>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>>> <https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support>
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen >>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available 
>>>> on all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce >>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all ,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can 
>>>>> input my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>>>>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>>>>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gena
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Well I’m been playing with this for some time now and I can’t get my devices to 
sync. It is a well known bug so will just stick with the app from smile.

Many thanks, 

Regards,

Gena


> On 17 Feb 2016, at 13:28, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes it is a part of OS X and IOS current versions. Not sure how long they’ve 
> been there just look under keyboard  preferences in OS x preferences, 
> keyboard and on the text tab. For IOS in Settings, general, keyboard and the 
> text expansion button.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 13:18, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is this built-in to the mac and Iphone?
>> Or do you have to buy it somewhere.
>> /A
>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 08:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Gena,
>>> 
>>> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
>>> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
>>> • Select Text;
>>> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
>>> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
>>> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
>>> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
>>> 
>>> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>> 
>>>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>>>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On 
>>>> the Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add 
>>>> button, you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using 
>>>> my Apple keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But 
>>>> that is great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>>>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>>>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I 
>>>> put a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the 
>>>> colon for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could 
>>>> do things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum 
>>>> character length?
>>>> 
>>>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of 
>>>> the above.
>>>> 
>>>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available 
>>>>> on all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>> http://Mosen.org
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all ,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can 
>>>>>> input my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>>>>>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>>>>>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
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Re: Saving Attachments with Mail in El Capitan

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I was going to reply in the same way. But then I realised that the poster was 
referring to multiple attachments. I’m sure it works here but just haven’t had 
the time to find a message with multiple attachments.

Regards,

Gena

> On 21 Oct 2015, at 08:32, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Dear Mauricio,
> 
> I've just found an old post in my Mail application that has an attachment and 
> I was able to save it via the file/save attachments menu without a problem.  
> I'm on El Capitan, macbook pro 2014.
> 
> Sorry yo are having problems with this.  I don't know what to suggest.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 04:05, Mauricio Molina > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>>  
>> Since the upgrade to El Capitan, a friend has been unable to save 
>> attachments using the Save Attachments option in the File menu. When 
>> attempting to save attachments using this method, it appears that all is as 
>> it should be until the Save button is pressed at which time a dialog appears 
>> stating that the attachments could not be saved. A variety of different file 
>> types have been tried to no avail. While it is still possible to save 
>> attached files after interacting with the text in the open message, this 
>> means that the attachments would have to be saved one at a time. Is anyone 
>> else experiencing this and is there a workaround? 
>>  
>> Thanks, 
>>  
>> Mauricio
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

If you are not familiar with terminal and you are using VO. Once you open 
terminal interact with it. VO, shift + down arrow.

HTH

Gena
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 01:03, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> when I copy the below text and paste it into terminal where do I enter a 
> password?
> As per step  11.
> Max.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2015, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
>> 
>> I hope you find the following information useful.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
>> 
>> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the download
>> has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather than actually
>> going through the process of upgrading over the top of your existing OS X
>> installation. Make sure that the installer that downloads the El Capitan
>> file is located in the /Applications folder under the name 'Install OS X El
>> Capitan.app'.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need to
>> format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can accept the
>> payload for the installation of El Capitan.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Launch the Disk Utility application.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Click the Partition tab.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and set
>> the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>> 
>> 7.
>> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the popup
>> window then click the OK button.
>> 
>> 8.
>> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to confirm
>> click the Partition button.
>> 
>> 9.
>> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
>> 
>> 10.
>> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make sure you
>> do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the one we just
>> created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command in the Terminal
>> window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
>> 
>> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\
>> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled
>> --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app
>> --nointeraction
>> 
>> 11.
>> Enter your Administrative account password.
>> 
>> 12.
>> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for OS X
>> El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly created El
>> Capitan Installer key.
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Re: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Mark,

The bigger picture would be that more and more apps will become broken if we 
don’t speak out. Primarily if should upgrades brake accessibility then you 
should get a note to the developers You should also leave a review and rating 
so that other members of the blind community don’t waste their money.

Gena

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 02:32, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.
> 
> NOTE 1:
> This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
> your iOS device.
> 
> NOTE 2:
> The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
> iTunes on a computer, only.
> 
> As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
> VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
> iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
> one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
> device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
> version of the app, back to the iOS device.
> 
> This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
> was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
> downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
> computer.  
> 
> As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
> computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  
> 
> For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
> that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
> an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
> all come to enjoy.
> 
> Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
> significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
> who are blind or low vision.
> 
> The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
> to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
> an app.  
> 
> Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
> apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
> in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
> iOS compatible device.  
> 
> Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:
> 
> [BEGIN EXAMPLE]
> DAY ONE:
> 
> 1.
> You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite
> app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver
> accessibility to it, should it be updated.
> 
> 2.
> You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible
> version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break
> its accessibility.
> 
> 3.
> On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate
> the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will
> update a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is
> currently on your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like
> the current version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan
> for worse case scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of
> your mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS
> navigation, etc.
> 
> DAY TWO:
> 
> 1.
> Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is
> an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  
> 
> 2.
> You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver
> accessibility has been broken.
> 
> 3.
> You immediately delete the app from your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes,
> you install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device,
> just as you would have done in iOS 8.x.
> [END EXAMPLE]
> 
> The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you
> should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any
> future updates break them.
> 
> Mark
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Re: frustrated about Apple accessibility

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello William,

You asked an inappropriate question. It was not about accessibility i.e. not 
about zoom or voice over etc. They perceived that you were trying to get free 
support. When you should have purchased Apple Care to gain an answer or at 
least an investigation to your issue.

HTH

Gena

> On 4 Nov 2015, at 22:56, William Windels  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> Here I am not speaking of me questions about activities but about the 
> reaction of accessibility.
> 
> This is the second time I receive such kind of a answer from accessibility.
> short explanation:
> I ask Apple accessibility why my macbook goes so slow when I have build some 
> activities  and switch between the programs that are inserted in the 
> activities.
> They told me that they can’t  give support  from this mail-adres  and that I 
> should contact the (paid) service apple care.
> 
> In the past, I thought they should ask more steps so that they can try to 
> reproduce  the issue.
> or in the worst case: “we wil forward this to the appropriated people”.
> 
> I have never seen this before, and you?
> 
> All comments are very welcome.
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
> 
> 
>> Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
>> 
>> Van: Apple Accessibility 
>> Datum: 4 november 2015 22:48:48 CET
>> Aan: william.wind...@gmail.com
>> Onderwerp: Antw.: activities in voiceover and osx 10.11.1; Follow-up: 
>> 631145322
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Thank you for writing to Apple. You have reached the Apple feedback address 
>> for accessibility.
>> 
>> We are unable to provide technical support through this email address. For 
>> technical support, we ask that you please contact AppleCare via telephone or 
>> use the Contact Apple Support link to begin an online support session.
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/support/contact/phone_contacts.html
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>> On November 03, 2015 at 23:27:32 PM GMT, william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have discovered that activities for particular programs are making the 
>>> system more slow.
>>> It seems that loading the activity for the particular program, takes much 
>>> power of the cpu and memory of my macbook.
>>> I was thinking not to load the activities when a specific program opens but 
>>> load it myself when I go to a select program.
>>> This goes much faster.
>>> 
>>> However, the activities isn’t loaded as expected when I select the specific 
>>> activitie.
>>> 
>>> IN attachment a copy of my activities that wan’t load properly.
>>> It should turn on quicknav and the letters on webpages should be active.
>>> 
>>> Any hints?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> William Windels
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Re: Most efficient way to read emails

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I too am a fan of the Apple mail. I do not use classic view., I have 5 lines 
showing. I just curser down and 5 lines is enough to judge whether I  want to 
open it. Most messages I don’t bother. I just hit the delete key. This is using 
the wired keyboard. I only expand the thread I want to read. I haven’t found 
how to have 5 lines displayed for individual messages in a thread. I hit return 
to open message if I want to read more than the 5 lines. Or in a threaded 
message. I also use a smart mailbox with all my unread messages. Other rules 
for my PayPal receipts for example, are automatically moved into their 
respective mailboxes. I do need to open such messages to gain the read flag.

HTH

Gena


> On 16 Dec 2015, at 16:26, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Traci,
> 
> I am a huge fan of the Mac Mail application.  In fact, I think it the 
> absolute best resource that the Mac has to offer.  With it, I can go through 
> hundreds and hundreds of messages in just a few minutes with a minimum of 
> keystrokes as VoiceOver automatically reads each message as it comes into 
> focus.  
> 
> Having said this, there are a few things one must do in which to get this to 
> happen.
> 
> IN this post, I will only sketch out the broad strokes as a more detailed 
> description would take more time to list than I have, at the moment.
> 
> 1.
> You must use the Default layout view, complete with the preview pane intact.  
> More simply put, do not modify the default view.
> 
> 2.
> You must use the conversation view with all conversations, collapsed.  
> 
> 3.
> Your primary navigation key will be the Tab Key along with the arrow keys.  
> Generally speaking, there is no need to use the enter key, the command+o key 
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Re: canon 700f lide and osx 10.11.2

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello William,

Do you not use time machine and does the backup restore the settings?

You could look at twain shin interface but this is probably more than you want 
to do.

http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/

I guess if all else fails, you could change your scanner.

HTH

Gena

> On 20 Dec 2015, at 22:41, William Windels  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Perhaps someone can help me with my canon 700f lide on osx 10.11 and 
>> specially for scanning multipage documents
>> 
>> I was using the program mp navigator ex from canon to work with my scanner 
>> and osx.
>> Since every big osx version, I need to search for a updated version program 
>> to let it work with osx.
>> 
>> The program is hard to install but I can use it after installing it.
>> The biggest reason I use this program, is that I can configure the 4 quick 
>> keys on the scanner to do fast actions like printing, mailing, scanning and 
>> ocr or scanning and recognize.
>> 
>> But now, I’ll stop this tricky updates and I am looking forward for a 
>> program  that can be updated automatically, that works with the cannon 700f 
>> like and if possible, that can configure the 4 keys at the frond for quick 
>> actions.
>> 
>> Of course , I am also happy to hear how I can do scan tasks in general, if 
>> you aren’t using such scanner or oct-software anymore.
>> 
>> Thx for any reaction,
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> William Windels
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Re: Can't Make a OSX 10.9 Bootdisk

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Hello,

A quick search on the web will give you the solution. I've copied the command 
but not the URL:

Basically, use disk utility to format a 8Gb or higher USB stick or SD. It has 
just worked for me. I copied the command from the file and pasted it in a 
terminal. I'm just about to install cleanly. It worked for me but do it at your 
own risk.


Then:

Run this in terminal and wait about 20 minutes:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ 
Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

You should see something like this:

Erasing Disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 100%...
Copying installer files to disk...
Copy complete.
Making disk bootable...
Copying boot files...
Copy complete.
Done.

You can then boot up from the USB by holding down the option key, then install 
the GM from the USB.


Note that this will also install a recovery partition (which osxdaily's method 
doesn't do).
Last edited by tywebb13; Oct 4, 2013 at 08:04 PM.
  
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On 23 Oct 2013, at 21:05, Daniel C  wrote:

> Hi,
> The new Mavricks OS, I can't seem to make a boot disk of.
> The install image is 5.31GB, but yet when I use LionDiskMaker or a program 
> within the install image called createinstallmedia, both methods failed.
> I learned about the createinsallmedia program here
> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/10/22/perform-clean-install-os-x-mavericks/
> I used the same USB flash drive I used for the latest updates of MountainLion.
> An error I got was that a file in the install image was missing, but I don't 
> understand why, as it was downloaded at least twice.
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

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Hello,

If you mean you clicked the continue button after downloading, it may have been 
moved from /Applications if you want to write it to disk you need to cancel the 
install.

Look to see if you have /Applications/Install OS X Mavericks.app or something 
similar.

HTH

Gena

On 23 Oct 2013, at 21:29, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
> the OK button.
> 
> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Can't Make a OSX 10.9 Bootdisk

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Hello,

Just thought you didn't confirm that you formatted a USB storage device in the 
right format?

Gena
On 23 Oct 2013, at 21:37, Daniel C  wrote:

> That's the exact command I did. For some reason it said that it's creating 
> the install disk, then a few minutes later, it says that it failed.
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Re: Can't Make a OSX 10.9 Bootdisk

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Hello,

Well it worked for me. I guess you need to move  it from /Applications and see 
if the app store will let you download it again.

On 23 Oct 2013, at 21:37, Daniel C  wrote:

> That's the exact command I did. For some reason it said that it's creating 
> the install disk, then a few minutes later, it says that it failed.
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Re: Can't Make a OSX 10.9 Bootdisk

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Hello,

A crude test. My Installer in /Applications suggests it is 5.31Gigabytes. Does 
your download appear to be that size? If you move it and try again you can put 
it back if it proves to be complete and not corrupt.

HTH

Gena

On 23 Oct 2013, at 22:17, Daniel C  wrote:

> I formatted it as Mac extended journaled, and I think I'll just move it out 
> of applications, the install image.
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Apple have changed the way in which these installers work. A simple web search 
will tell you this. If the USB stick is Untitled and been formatted in Mac's OS 
X format then in a terminal type:


sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ 
Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

You should see something like this:

Erasing Disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 100%...
Copying installer files to disk...
Copy complete.
Making disk bootable...
Copying boot files...
Copy complete.
Done.

You can then boot up from the USB by holding down the option key, then install 
the GM from the USB.

This is probably going to be the same for the public release.

Note that this will also install a recovery partition (which osxdaily's method 
doesn't do).

On 24 Oct 2013, at 05:11, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> Hi. I was actually able to download it using our old beat up white mac
> book. i downloaded the latest version of disk maker x but after I
> select mavericks, I get a message saying system event dialogue needs
> attention but command tabbing doesn't show a dialogue box. disk maker
> x just sits with no windows and then a few minutes later, i get an
> apple event timeout message and I can quit the application.
> 
> has anybody else experienced this? I've got the mavericks installer in
> the applications olfder and I've formatted my eight gig flash drive
> following the instructions on their site.
> 
> When I have some time tomorrow, I'm going to check their FAQ in more detail...
> 
> In the meantime, any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/13, matthew dyer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Look in the apps folder.  HTH.
>> 
>> 
>> matthew dyer
>> sent from my 27 inch iMac.
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
>>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>>> the OK button.
>>> 
>>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
>>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

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Hello,

Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your 
/Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.

Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.

HTH

Gena
On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications folder.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you put
>> in your password
>> Angelo
>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
>>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>>> the OK button.
>>> 
>>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
>>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Cameron,

Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command does? 
All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called create 
install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB stick is 
located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on /Volumes? Was your 
USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to have different installers 
for target platforms.

HTH

Gena

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> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
> in case anybody was curious.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
>> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
>> 
>> Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
>>> folder.
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>>>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
>>>> put
>>>> in your password
>>>> Angelo
>>>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
>>>>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>>>>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>>>>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>>>>> the OK button.
>>>>> 
>>>>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>>>>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
>>>>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>>>>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Cameron,

I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard so it 
doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as a resource 
for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac World or on Apple 
sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to be generated against 
createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all the documentation I've read 
suggests that it should.

Good luck and happy hacking.

Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello Cameron,
>> 
>> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
>> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
>> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
>> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
>> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
>> have different installers for target platforms.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>>> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
>>> in case anybody was curious.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
>>>> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
>>>> 
>>>> Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
>>>>> folder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any other suggestions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>>>>>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> in your password
>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>>>>>>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>>>>>>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>>>>>>> the OK button.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>>>>>>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
>>>>>>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>>>>>>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>>>> 
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

What is in your /Applications folder, in the way of the installer?



Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:02, BBS  wrote:

> Hey all. I’m having a little bit of a problem here. I want to create a 
> bootable installer for Mavericks now that I’ve updated it, but the problem is 
> that the darn thing won’t download. No matter how many times I click on the 
> download button in the purchases section, it won’t download it. It just asks 
> if I want to continue with the download and does nothing after that. Meaning 
> when I go to the status to check on the download, Voiceover says it’s blank 
> rather than telling me if it’s downloading or not. Anybody have any 
> suggestions?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White Mac Book
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Cameron,
>> 
>> I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard so 
>> it doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as a 
>> resource for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac World 
>> or on Apple sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to be 
>> generated against createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all the 
>> documentation I've read suggests that it should.
>> 
>> Good luck and happy hacking.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
>>> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>> Hello Cameron,
>>>> 
>>>> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
>>>> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
>>>> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
>>>> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
>>>> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
>>>> have different installers for target platforms.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> Georgina Joyce
>>>> Applied Psychologist
>>>> Training and Coaching.
>>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
>>>>> in case anybody was curious.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
>>>>>> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
>>>>>>> folder.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any other suggestions?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>>>>>>>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>> in your password
>>>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>>>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>

Re: can't download Mavericks...

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I guess you will have to wait until an update is produced. If you have tried 
selecting Mavericks from your downloaded section of the app store.

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 25 Oct 2013, at 19:20, BBS  wrote:

> Hi Gena. There is no installer in my apps folder.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White Mac Book
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> What is in your /Applications folder, in the way of the installer?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:02, BBS  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all. I’m having a little bit of a problem here. I want to create a 
>>> bootable installer for Mavericks now that I’ve updated it, but the problem 
>>> is that the darn thing won’t download. No matter how many times I click on 
>>> the download button in the purchases section, it won’t download it. It just 
>>> asks if I want to continue with the download and does nothing after that. 
>>> Meaning when I go to the status to check on the download, Voiceover says 
>>> it’s blank rather than telling me if it’s downloading or not. Anybody have 
>>> any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Cameron,
>>>> 
>>>> I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard 
>>>> so it doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as 
>>>> a resource for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac 
>>>> World or on Apple sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to 
>>>> be generated against createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all 
>>>> the documentation I've read suggests that it should.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck and happy hacking.
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> Georgina Joyce
>>>> Applied Psychologist
>>>> Training and Coaching.
>>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
>>>>> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Cameron,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
>>>>>> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, 
>>>>>> called
>>>>>> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
>>>>>> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
>>>>>> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
>>>>>> have different installers for target platforms.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Georgina Joyce
>>>>>> Applied Psychologist
>>>>>> Training and Coaching.
>>>>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
>>>>>>> in case anybody was curious.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
>>>>>>>> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>

Re: An Update About Not Being Able To Download Mavericks

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

It shouldn't but it did for me on my MP.

Going that route only gave an option to install Lion. But if anyone can make it 
work let me know. Going the option + power route with some sighted support. I 
found there was no keyboard support to select the HD and the install button.

HTH
Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 28 Oct 2013, at 09:18, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Shawn,
> 
> No, you shouldn’t need sighted assistance. Once you load recovery mode, wait 
> a couple of minutes and then you can press command-f5. You’ll get Fred, but 
> that’s definitely better than no voice at all. And by the way, a USB braille 
> display works with it as well.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
> On Oct 28, 2013, at 12:31 AM, BBS  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all. I’m finally able to download Mavericks which makes me wonder in 
>> these past few days was the server jammed with people downloading it? And 
>> yes, obviously the guy at Apple didn’t know what he was talking about 
>> because he told me that if this Mac ever bit the big one, I can use recovery 
>> mode to download it again, that’s what that link was for and why I never 
>> bothered posting it. So thanks for putting up with my stupid assed questions 
>> and that comment about it just being an update. BTW, didn’t I read that you 
>> needed sighted help if you wanted to use recovery mode?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>> 
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Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

www.gmx.com

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 28 Oct 2013, at 22:34, Maria From Australia  wrote:

> hi.
> 
> I'm still trying to figure out if i'm having problems. I am away from home 
> and so am using a portable hot spot. Don't really want to turn on all mail. i 
> wonder if limiting the size of the all mail folder would stop gmail from 
> downloading everything and help with any sincing problems? 
> any ideas? don't really want to have to pay for email but is there anything 
> free out there that offers a fair bit of space? and-or is there an accessible 
> email client for mac? i love apple mail and enjoy gmail so I hope it can be 
> resolved but it's good to look at alternatives just in case. 
> 
> Blessings!  Maria and my guide Karly  email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:36 am, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>> There's always AOL mail. Has supported IMAP support for about a decade.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>>> On 10/25/13 2:26 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>>> There are a few:
>>> 
>>> iCloud
>>> outlook.com (they now support imap and you can even bring your domain)
>>> office365 ($4 per month but a huge deal if you want to pay for email)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:30 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks
>>> 
>>> What are some Gmail replacements the list might recommend? What about using
>>> iCloud mail or Hotmail? Would be interested in some fairly quick and dirty
>>> workarounds.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:19 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, guess I'm lucky. I'm not having any problems with gmail and
>>> mavericks, but this is definitely an email I'll keep in case something
>>> changes and I need this at a future date.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons
>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. Some
>>> of it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for instance,
>>> All Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail
>>> kind of gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like gmail
>>> on the web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages
>>> get given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have,
>>> which act much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to
>>> explain, interested people are better off reading the following article:
>>>>> http://tidbits.com/article/14219
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nic
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran 
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with
>>> Gmail and Mail. basically, the "all mail" folder gets placed in the archive
>>> folder, and it's necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the
>>> website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a
>>> show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels
>>> from the Gmail site, and you'd have to set up local rules for filtering
>>> messages in apple Mail. Also, you can't move Gmail folders in apple mail.
>>>>> Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I'm on, and I sync my mail
>>> with my iPod, I'm going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do,
>>> do *not* go into the "all mail" folder on your devices if you sync with
>>> them, because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have
>>> something like twenty thousand messages in my 'all mail" folder.
>>>>> you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just
>>> thought I'd clarify things just a tad. I hope it's clarified, at any rate.
>>> :)
>>>>> HtH,
>&

Look tell recogniser backup

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I wondered if there was anyone here familiar with backing up their look tell 
library? I read that there is supposed to be a data button then a share button 
to email the library contents to yourself. I don't have these buttons anywhere.

I'm using an iPhone 5 with IOS 7 and to my knowledge, recogniser is up to date.

Thanks.

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
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Re: voice over speech on.

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

In that dialog is also the sound output source selection. Has this been 
changed? Could it be sending it to headphones or something?

Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
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On 29 Oct 2013, at 12:25, mario navarro  wrote:

> 
> no my friend .
> 
> sorry I have not explained myself well.
> I uncheck the option to speak the voice over sounds in the category of the 
> voice oversounds 
> voice over vo utility f8.
> now I have the voice over on but without speech.  .
> 
> how I can activate the speech again.
> I think now you get the idea.
> thanks.
> cheers.
> Em 29/10/2013 12:05, Kawal Gucukoglu escreveu:
>> command F5. 
>> 
>> Sent from my I phone
>> 
>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 12:01 pm, mario navarro  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi all.
>>> I need some help if possible.
>>> I turned off the speech of voice over unintentionally and now can not turn 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> I do not have a trackpad and would like to know is there any keyboard 
>>> shortcut to activate the voice over speech
>>> I have an imac and I have no trackpad.
>>> I've tried several solutions but without success.
>>> some tips ...
>>> thanks.
>>> cheers.
>>> 
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