Re: Getting to the dock

[Andrew Lamanche]

You can also get to the dock by pressing control+f3.  Also, you can gett to 
menu extras by pressing control+f8 or vo+m twice.

Andrew
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 02:58, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> It doesn’t say anything.  I get the tone that tells me when a command isn’t 
> available.
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Grant  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi George,
>> 
>> The VO KEYS are CONTROL+OPTION, and/or CAPS LOCK if you’re running El 
>> Capitan. So writing VO D is likely an abbreviation, meaning she is pressing 
>> D while holding down her VoiceOver modifier keys.
>> 
>> As for the original question, it’s difficult to say what may be going on 
>> here. What happens if you press VO+K to turn on keyboard help, then press 
>> VO+D to hear the description of the command?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 2:53 PM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can because it is control option d  not v o d
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 14:41
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Getting to the dock
>>> 
>>> I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of 
>>> getting there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons
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Re: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Yeah no kidding. I sent them an angry tweet about it but who knows if they 
check their Twitter account. Their handle is @trillianastra.

Shawn
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> On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
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> Oh, cute!  Another dev who thinks eye candy is the key.  How nauice!
> 
> Not?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:22 AM
> Subject: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility
> 
> 
> Hey guys. I just updated Trillian and I found a big surprise. Accessibility 
> is totally broken. Whenever I arrow up or down in the contact list, all 
> Voiceover says is blank selected. How nice. I'm thinking of rolling back to 
> an earlier version that I've backed up to time machine but my only problem 
> with that is it will update automatically to this inaccessible version. My 
> question to you all is after I do this, can I turn off automatic updates for 
> certain apps or do I have to choose if things update automatically or not? 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: messages app not connecting to Facebook anymore.

[Jessica Moss]

I've done that, but all it says is "contact list" but it shows up under the web 
interfase, so have no idea what to make of that.
On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:44 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> No you can still use Trillian to connect to Facebook. Try pressing 
> command+slash. That should bring up the contacts window. If not, don't know 
> what to tell you, but it works for me just fine.
> 
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>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I have, and added my facebook account, but when I launch trillian, it just 
>> continues to say "trillian has no windows," and can't figure out how to 
>> access it," and everything else is still dimmed.
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you create a Trillian account? You can't add accounts until you perform 
>>> this step.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
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>>> 
 On Dec 27, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 Ok, I've just installed it but can't figure out how to add accounts, how 
 in the world do you do this?
 On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
 
> Hey guys. I haven't been paying attention to this thread up until now, 
> but have you tried using Trillian for Facebook? It's free and very 
> accessible.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jessica Moss  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't get why they would do that; it's not like we're doing anything 
>> illegal by using the mac's 3rd party app to connect to them, so what's 
>> the problem?
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Grant  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Matthew,
>>> 
>>> Yep, it appears that we won’t be able to use Facebook Chat from within 
>>> the Messages App as XMPP support is being deprecated. I finally removed 
>>> my account the other day. This is extremely unfortunate as it is by far 
>>> the most accessible experience I’ve ever found for chatting with 
>>> Facebook friends, on any platform.
>>> 
 On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Dyer 
  wrote:
 
 
 Hi  all.
 
 I think this has to do with face book shuting dow the 3rd party api  
 which allows app t9o connect with the facebook service.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
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Airplay iPhone 5S to Apple TV 3rd Generation

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
When using airplay does iPhone 5S use wifi to directly communicate with Apple 
TV or does it use wifi via my wifi router? I hope it uses wifi directly to the 
Apple TV and thereby bypasses my wifi router. 

I ask because my Apple TV is located where wifi to my router is not good. Hence 
the Apple TV keeps dropping out when streaming video from iTunes on my iMac. I 
cannot move the Apple TV to a location with better wifi signal without 
rearranging the entire room! Hence I am wondering if airplay from my iPhone 
would work better. 

Best regards….

Paul Hopewell 

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RE: Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

Not sure what you mean by virtualization downgrade?  Is there a difference 
between the old dual core processors from the 2012 mins and the newer dual core 
processors, other than clock speed?  Will a quad core on a macgbook improve 
virtual machine performance since you can dedicate two cores to each Mac and 
Windows?  Thanks.
Bill


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On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:46 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?

I really believe that multicore performance is a good thing to have when doing 
virtualisation.  No two ways around it: the latest Mac Mini is a downgrade from 
its predecessor, because of the dual-core processors.  Sure, they’re newer 
family chips, but they are still slower.  Worse yet, RAM is not upgradable, and 
storage is not upgradable without substantial (and very careful) disassembly.  
I have no doubt that Apple are, if not intentionally doing it, at least glad 
that the Mini will no longer threaten their Mac Pros or iMacs, both of which 
now present alternative options.  The Mac Mini is such an attractive machine, 
and I too have been recently eyeing them up hungrily for their lovely SSD 
performance and small form factor, but I just can’t bring myself to buy a 
downgraded machine for any purpose other than the one for which my current 
dual-core Mini is serving (a simple caching server).  Indeed, my previous 2010 
Mini could be upgraded `if I chose: both RAM and SSD would bring it up to par 
with the best Mac Mini, if you discount the slight clock speed boost (2.6 to 
3.0), the change in processor family and the addition of an optical drive.  Of 
course, as you said, you could also investigate quad-core options in laptops as 
well, and get out of the dual-core league entirely.  But if you must buy a 
Mini, get a maximally configured Mini, so as to save long-term on your 
investment: 1 TB SSD, 16 GB RAM, 3.0 GHz I7 dual-core.  This configuration will 
let you down a bit in the virtualisation department, but will make up for it in 
general use.

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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Bill.

I should have been clearer that the 2012 Mac Mini did offer a quad-core option. 
 And yes, giving just one core to an OS will work, but will not be quite as 
fluid as at least a dual-core virtual machine.  So yes, if you’re planning on 
virtualisation-heavy workloads, look at the portables.

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Re: Odd Navigation Results with Web Page under OS X 10.10.5

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Craig,

Indeed.  Very frustrating.  As always, please tell accessibil...@apple.com and 
show them the page, if you can.  This sort of thing needs to be addressed more 
urgently than other feature enhancements and would be considered a showstopper 
without other platforms to fall back on.

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Re: Getting to the dock

[Jim Gatteys]

I believe ctrl-f3 is a default keystroke for moving to the doc.  You might have 
to use the function key depending on how you have your computer configured--at 
least on a laptop.
Jim

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> It doesn’t say anything.  I get the tone that tells me when a command isn’t 
> available.
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Grant  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi George,
>> 
>> The VO KEYS are CONTROL+OPTION, and/or CAPS LOCK if you’re running El 
>> Capitan. So writing VO D is likely an abbreviation, meaning she is pressing 
>> D while holding down her VoiceOver modifier keys.
>> 
>> As for the original question, it’s difficult to say what may be going on 
>> here. What happens if you press VO+K to turn on keyboard help, then press 
>> VO+D to hear the description of the command?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 2:53 PM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can because it is control option d  not v o d
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 14:41
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Getting to the dock
>>> 
>>> I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of 
>>> getting there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons
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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Andrew Lamanche]

May I ask further?  How many cores would you assign to  virtual machine running 
windows 7 on my mac pro with 3 GHz Intel Core i7?  I'd greatly appreciate your 
advice.  I don't quite understand the concept of cores, especially that lots of 
material on VMWare website talks about virtual cores and I  get confused 
because I don't know whether the processor on my macbook pro has virtual cores 
and therefore 7 of them or physical cores.

Many thanks

Andrew 
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 14:41, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Hi Bill.
> 
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> option.  And yes, giving just one core to an OS will work, but will not be 
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> planning on virtualisation-heavy workloads, look at the portables.
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iOS 9 voiceover manuals

[Phil Halton]

I'm trying to locate somewhere on apple.com the getting started manual for 
voiceover.
Can anyone point me to a link or a page where I can just get the iOS voiceover 
manual?. It used to be located somewhere in Safari bookmarks, but I don't see 
it there anymore.
Thanks


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Re: iOS 9 voiceover manuals

[John Panarese]

Hi Phil,
   Choose, Support, and in the search field, search for user manuals or iOS 
user manuals. That should get the manuals in the results in PDF.


Take Care

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> On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to locate somewhere on apple.com the getting started manual for 
> voiceover.
> Can anyone point me to a link or a page where I can just get the iOS 
> voiceover manual?. It used to be located somewhere in Safari bookmarks, but I 
> don't see it there anymore.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't think being angry about things and attacking them is the way to go. 
That said, I do understand your anger.  I, like you, hate it when companies 
think eye candy is the way to go, so therefore break things.


Though it's tempting for me to publicly on Twitter attack them for this, I'm 
not gonna do so.  I'll write them, yes, but not disrespectfully.  What if 
they truly don't know that what they did broke things.  For all we know, 
Trillion on the mac has been accessible for quite some time, so perhaps this 
wasn't something they meant to have happen, and if we let them know, they 
might be willing to fix it.


Now, that said, if they then get unreasonable with us, and start not 
cooperating, then? our anger attacks will be warranted.  I'd not go quite to 
that level just quite yet though.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility


Yeah no kidding. I sent them an angry tweet about it but who knows if they 
check their Twitter account. Their handle is @trillianastra.


Shawn
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On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, cute!  Another dev who thinks eye candy is the key.  How nauice!

Not?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:22 AM
Subject: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility


Hey guys. I just updated Trillian and I found a big surprise. 
Accessibility is totally broken. Whenever I arrow up or down in the 
contact list, all Voiceover says is blank selected. How nice. I'm thinking 
of rolling back to an earlier version that I've backed up to time machine 
but my only problem with that is it will update automatically to this 
inaccessible version. My question to you all is after I do this, can I 
turn off automatic updates for certain apps or do I have to choose if 
things update automatically or not? Thanks.


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Re: Router recomendations?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

I'm very grateful to Anders, Sabahattin and others for this discussion.  I can 
see what I must do now to improve my network setup.  I've just ordered the 
Draytek v130, and I will make it my modem and allow my Airport Extreme to 
handle everything else.  I feel that it should improve infinitely the speed and 
reliability of my network.  At present I have my airport extreme set up in 
bridge mode and my modem router handles NaT, DHcP, port forwarding, and it is 
not such a great machine but free modem router from my ISP.  So my airport 
extreme with all its huge potential is sitting there providing just wifi whilst 
it could work at the potential for which it is designed.  I've never quite 
understood these things until now.  I'm very nervous though because I've not 
configured my airport extreme in this way before, so I don't know what to 
expect when my modem arrives.  I obviously will have to reconfigure my airport 
extreme but I'm not sure how it's going to be, and whether I will be 
successful.  The last thing I want to do is to mess up my network for everybody 
else in the house; they won't be happy!  Will I have to reset my airport 
extreme to factory setting before I connect it to the DrayTek v130 modem?  Or 
can I just connect it and then through airport utility change the setting from 
bridge to router function?  I've searched the internet for instructions but I 
find vague references to this and with an earlier version of DrayTek v120.  I'd 
appreciate any tips or advice.

Many thanks

Andrew
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 02:09, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Long message ahead.  I have replied inline for clarity.
> 
> On 28 Dec 2015, at 20:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Now when answering your message its a dsl modem with router built-in.
>> I have that as a nat and use the airport extreme as a bridge.
>> Maybe i should try to reverse the setting so that my modem is a bridge and 
>> my airport is a nat.
> 
> Yeah, if you can.  Lets AirPort handle your public IP address, NAT, port 
> forwarding, and all that.  However, maybe not the best option if your DSL 
> modem is actually a better router because it handles your DSL connection at 
> full frame sizes, without PPPoE overhead.  In my experience though, most ISP 
> routers are horribly outperformed by hardware you get yourself, including 
> AirPort.  It may even not be possible, for example PPPoA generally cannot be 
> bridged without special hardware, forcing you to use your “Modem” as your NAT 
> router.  You will need to investigate your options.  If you don’t mind, buy 
> another modem; I recommend Draytek v130.  This will in fact bridge PPPoA, and 
> pass PPP directly through to AirPort as PPPoE.  Now put your 
> username/password into AirPort, and get a very nice, reliable setup, entirely 
> controlled by AirPort.  This is a great way to turn any legacy DSL connection 
> into Ethernet, and make AirPort work with any connection type.  These babies 
> even support baby jumbo, so if you ever get an alternative router to AirPort 
> that knows how to handle large packets, it need only support an Ethernet port 
> to give you the full capacity of your DSL/VDSL connection.  I use one now; 
> they’re very sweet.
> 
>> But how will i go with my other airport base stations i have?
>> I have two airport express.
>> Do i have to set them up to or will they automatically join the network?
> 
> Tell them to “Join” your existing network.  You can do this during the 
> initial setup process; zap them with AirPort Utility to factory settings and 
> you’ll be asked how to configure them.  “Joining” an AirPort network will see 
> your Express configured as a WDS replicator.  You can then use the Ethernet 
> ports on your Express to attach devices to your network, in addition of 
> course to using it as a wireless extender and, optionally, AirPlay receiver 
> and print server.  Being able to wirelessly connect ethernet-equipped devices 
> to your network is way cool. :)
> 
> There is an important catch I think you should understand, though.  Your 
> wireless devices connected by way of the receiver are only capable of “N” 
> speeds.  Moreover, only half of “N” speeds, theoretically.  Your bandwidth is 
> chopped into half because the signal is now taking two hops, and the Express 
> is not yet an AC-capable device.  A hidden preference, accessible only with 
> the older AirPort Utility 5.6 available for Windows, can fix it so wireless 
> clients do not associate with your Express devices, but this would of course 
> render them rather useless as wireless extenders; they will then only be 
> Ethernet extenders.  If you are finding that your speeds are particularly 
> poor because of your Express extenders, and you really need your extenders to 
> get the desired coverage, and you have no other means to wire your AirPort 
> units together (Ethernet, HomePlug, etc), and perhaps because they are often 
> providing the best signal at any given time, 

Call Recorder for Skype?

[shaf]

Anybody know if there's a good recorder for Skype out there besides
Ecamms software which can automatically save files in MP3?

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Re: iOS 9 voiceover manuals

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

If you’re talking about the iPhone user guide, you can view it online at 
http://help.apple.com/iphone .  (Incidentally, replace “iphone” in that URL 
with the names of other products, for instance “appletv”, to get their 
respective manuals.)

The manuals are always published by Apple in the iBooks Store, too.  And, as 
somebody else mentioned, are available as PDFs from Apple Support.  Just search 
them out.

The VoiceOver Getting Started guide for OS X is available from the VoiceOver 
Help menu (VO-H).  Mac specific, of course.

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Re: Airplay iPhone 5S to Apple TV 3rd Generation

[Scott Granados]

I believe the iPhone uses the main connection so the airplay data would 
traverse the router.  This makes sense.  What I’m not sure is if the two radios 
talk together on the WiFi side once the session is established or if the access 
point always has to stay in the middle, I’d suspect the ladder.

Try it but expect the router to be in the mix.  You might try changing WiFi 
channels and settings to improve performance.

Good luck

> On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> When using airplay does iPhone 5S use wifi to directly communicate with Apple 
> TV or does it use wifi via my wifi router? I hope it uses wifi directly to 
> the Apple TV and thereby bypasses my wifi router. 
> 
> I ask because my Apple TV is located where wifi to my router is not good. 
> Hence the Apple TV keeps dropping out when streaming video from iTunes on my 
> iMac. I cannot move the Apple TV to a location with better wifi signal 
> without rearranging the entire room! Hence I am wondering if airplay from my 
> iPhone would work better. 
> 
> Best regards….
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Scott Granados]

Ok, Ricardo, I finally got this working but it took some finessing.

Here’s what I did, your milage may vary.  First, trouble out T-Mobile I called 
them and they were surprised this feature worked but they said they wouldn’t 
block other devices like laptops or iPads so the watch should work.  After 
ruling out the carrier I called Apple.
The problem I had was the following.  Under the settings glance, I 
would see connected over iPhone and if the phone was disabled or turned off it 
would say disconnected and never change.  I restarted the watch, no change.  I 
then disabled WiFi Calling and other device calling on my iPhone and reenabled. 
 Once reenabled I then opened the watch app and went to phone where a WiFi and 
calls subsection now appear.  I set this option to on and allow to sync.  Still 
no go.  I then open the iCloud section of settings on my iPhone, click on the 
part that’s my name and wait, I’m prompted with a password and a few times I’m 
told it fails do to an ID server error.  Once it authenticates which I achieved 
by repeating the login process 3 times the watch synced.  I turned off the 
phone and with in 10 seconds it said connected to WiFi.  I then opened the 
phone app, clicked on recents and picked a number where the call completed once 
I tapped on it’s label.  It worked perfectly.  Incoming calls also work with 
the phone off.  Once the phone restarts the connection reverts to the phone.  
The watch should join any simple access points I’ve joined previously now.  It 
won’t log in to captive portals or cert based authentication environments etc.

Let me know if that helps at all.

Thanks
Scott

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Yup,
> 
> Exactly. In the United States, T-mobile, Sprint and AT&T now support wifi 
> calling. Thats why I’m confused that it works on all my other apple devices 
> but not the watch.
> 
> Thanks.
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by 
>> the carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the 
>> phone was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was 
>> away and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint 
>> enabled this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling through 
>> the watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection to the 
>> carrier you have.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
>> 
>> 
>> So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
>> tried this.
>> 
>> I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When 
>> I get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I 
>> see something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but 
>> I will confirm.
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices 
>>> to use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as 
>>> well. So I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The 
>>> call fails every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad 
>>> rings, my Mac rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have 
>>> a wifi connection, I double checked that.
>>> 
>>> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
>>> apple watch does not show up in this list.
 On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
 I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
 symptoms do you see with the watch?
 
 
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
> luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the 
> watch.
> 
> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
> T-mobile network.
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Scott Granados]

So here’s how that works.  The interface between the watch and the phone 
appears to be bluetooth.  The calls route over bluetooth and notifications are 
sent over bluetooth.  
WiFi kicks in if the  primary connection to the phone over bluetooth is 
lost.  Once the loss is detected the watch joins any WiFi networks you’ve 
previously joined in range.  Once the phone is back on or in range the watch 
restores it’s pairing automatically with the phone.


> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by the 
> carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the phone 
> was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was away 
> and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint enabled 
> this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling through the 
> watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection to the 
> carrier you have.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
> 
> 
> So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
> tried this.
> 
> I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When I 
> get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I see 
> something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but I 
> will confirm.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices to 
>> use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as well. So 
>> I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The call fails 
>> every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad rings, my Mac 
>> rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have a wifi 
>> connection, I double checked that.
>> 
>> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
>> apple watch does not show up in this list.
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
>>> I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
>>> symptoms do you see with the watch?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
 luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the 
 watch.
 
 Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
 T-mobile network.
 
 Thanks.
 
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questions about apple watch and sending taps

[Scott Granados]

Hi, if I want to digital touch someone how do I do it successfully with voice 
over on.

On my watch i press the button, select the friend, select the digital touch 
option, select the area where it seems there should be input and tap away.  Not 
much happens.  I can  also not always receive them reliably.  Any pointers on 
managing digital touches would besot appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Brent Harding]

That's what I always thought too. By the time I got my watch around the end 
of June or early July, Sprint had wifi calling available on the iPhone, 
outgoing calls could be made from the watch, but incoming had to be answered 
on the phone. That wifi calling made the watch not receive calls back then. 
I only first got the ability to have wifi calling on my phone with incoming 
calls passed to the watch in iOS 9 and Watch OS 2. I'm not sure if that was 
an Apple bug or sprint's network design. Once I did all the updates and 
turned on the other devices stuff in iOS, it added some free extra service 
to my Sprint account that blessed the watch with incoming call abilities.


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch


So here’s how that works.  The interface between the watch and the phone 
appears to be bluetooth.  The calls route over bluetooth and notifications 
are sent over bluetooth.
WiFi kicks in if the  primary connection to the phone over bluetooth is 
lost.  Once the loss is detected the watch joins any WiFi networks you’ve 
previously joined in range.  Once the phone is back on or in range the watch 
restores it’s pairing automatically with the phone.




On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:

I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by 
the carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the 
phone was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I 
was away and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that 
Sprint enabled this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone 
calling through the watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct 
connection to the carrier you have.


- Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch


So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
tried this.


I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though. 
When I get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see 
if I see something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue 
though but I will confirm.


On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  
wrote:


So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices 
to use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as 
well. So I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. 
The call fails every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my 
iPad rings, my Mac rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does 
indeed have a wifi connection, I double checked that.


I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, 
my apple watch does not show up in this list.
On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  
wrote:


Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue 
/ symptoms do you see with the watch?



On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  
wrote:


Hello everyone,

I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on 
the watch.


Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
T-mobile network.


Thanks.

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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Scott,

Nearly.  The watch and phone will use Bluetooth if available.  If Bluetooth is 
off or unavailable, the watch uses any existing association to reach the phone 
over Wi-Fi.  Finally, if the phone itself is off and can’t be reached by any 
method, then the watch will do some things independently, including (for those 
in the States who can get it) Wi-Fi Calling.  An increasing number of apps will 
work with no phone pairing, though not nearly enough in my book, including for 
example the “Remote” app.  Accordingly have a phone on and on your Wi-Fi 
network, even if it’s just on charge.  Moreover, Bluetooth is always required 
to perform a remote watch unlock from the phone.

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Re: Converting MKV to DVD

[erik burggraaf]

Has any one tried this and will it allow for accessible creation of dvd menus 
and chapters?

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


> On Dec 23, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey John, Not sure of the format you are looking to convert from but pretty 
> sure Mac DVD Ripper Pro could do it as they list a ton of formats and I know 
> you can rip to DVDs although I have only ripped from DVDs check it out as it 
> seems to be fully accessible and the developer is very responsive.
>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 12:21 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>>   Does anyone know of an accessible video converter for the Mac that will 
>> take an MKV file and turn it into a DVD. I’ve found a few applications, but 
>> all have proven to be inaccessible enough that they do require a pair of 
>> eyes to use. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
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>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

What about the opposite, generating MKV files that are lossless from DVD discs? 
 Is MakeMKV accessible, and will VLC play the resulting discs accessibly on OS 
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Re: Converting MKV to DVD

[John Panarese]

   You cannot create DVDs. I had communications with a tech support person and 
they told me it only rips from DVD or can copy DVDs, but will not convert from 
other formats into a DVD disk.


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> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:51 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Has any one tried this and will it allow for accessible creation of dvd menus 
> and chapters?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Brian Fischler > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey John, Not sure of the format you are looking to convert from but pretty 
>> sure Mac DVD Ripper Pro could do it as they list a ton of formats and I know 
>> you can rip to DVDs although I have only ripped from DVDs check it out as it 
>> seems to be fully accessible and the developer is very responsive.
>>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 12:21 PM, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>>   Does anyone know of an accessible video converter for the Mac that will 
>>> take an MKV file and turn it into a DVD. I’ve found a few applications, but 
>>> all have proven to be inaccessible enough that they do require a pair of 
>>> eyes to use. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Awfully sorry.  My last post was intended for another thread.  Please 
disregard.  I will repost it on the correct thread, and answer this one soon.

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Re: Converting MKV to DVD

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Re: Converting MKV to DVD

[erik burggraaf]

VLC definitely plays mkv files once they are extracted.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


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radio and iPhone 5S

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
Just curious.  I have heard that there is a built-in radio chip in most smart 
phones.  Is this true and how does it become activated.  If this is the case 
why do we need special apps to listen to radio?
I have an iPhone 5S and would like to know more about this.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Andrew.

I have the set up that Sabahattin was talking about as it was on his 
recommendation and his help that I have a rock solid network handled by my 
Draytech 230 and Airport Extreme.  It wasn’t hard to set up but if you need 
help, there are plenty of us on this list who will help.  I am not technical 
but as Sabahattin helped me set mine up, I can’t remember what to do but I know 
I had it working within in 10 or 15 minutes.  Once it’s done you will have no 
problems.

What I do remember is that you need to go in to network settings and find the 
router and then put in your information in to the fields.

Kawal.
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 17:09, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm very grateful to Anders, Sabahattin and others for this discussion.  I 
> can see what I must do now to improve my network setup.  I've just ordered 
> the Draytek v130, and I will make it my modem and allow my Airport Extreme to 
> handle everything else.  I feel that it should improve infinitely the speed 
> and reliability of my network.  At present I have my airport extreme set up 
> in bridge mode and my modem router handles NaT, DHcP, port forwarding, and it 
> is not such a great machine but free modem router from my ISP.  So my airport 
> extreme with all its huge potential is sitting there providing just wifi 
> whilst it could work at the potential for which it is designed.  I've never 
> quite understood these things until now.  I'm very nervous though because 
> I've not configured my airport extreme in this way before, so I don't know 
> what to expect when my modem arrives.  I obviously will have to reconfigure 
> my airport extreme but I'm not sure how it's going to be, and whether I will 
> be successful.  The last thing I want to do is to mess up my network for 
> everybody else in the house; they won't be happy!  Will I have to reset my 
> airport extreme to factory setting before I connect it to the DrayTek v130 
> modem?  Or can I just connect it and then through airport utility change the 
> setting from bridge to router function?  I've searched the internet for 
> instructions but I find vague references to this and with an earlier version 
> of DrayTek v120.  I'd appreciate any tips or advice.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
>> On 29 Dec 2015, at 02:09, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> Long message ahead.  I have replied inline for clarity.
>> 
>> On 28 Dec 2015, at 20:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> Now when answering your message its a dsl modem with router built-in.
>>> I have that as a nat and use the airport extreme as a bridge.
>>> Maybe i should try to reverse the setting so that my modem is a bridge and 
>>> my airport is a nat.
>> 
>> Yeah, if you can.  Lets AirPort handle your public IP address, NAT, port 
>> forwarding, and all that.  However, maybe not the best option if your DSL 
>> modem is actually a better router because it handles your DSL connection at 
>> full frame sizes, without PPPoE overhead.  In my experience though, most ISP 
>> routers are horribly outperformed by hardware you get yourself, including 
>> AirPort.  It may even not be possible, for example PPPoA generally cannot be 
>> bridged without special hardware, forcing you to use your “Modem” as your 
>> NAT router.  You will need to investigate your options.  If you don’t mind, 
>> buy another modem; I recommend Draytek v130.  This will in fact bridge 
>> PPPoA, and pass PPP directly through to AirPort as PPPoE.  Now put your 
>> username/password into AirPort, and get a very nice, reliable setup, 
>> entirely controlled by AirPort.  This is a great way to turn any legacy DSL 
>> connection into Ethernet, and make AirPort work with any connection type.  
>> These babies even support baby jumbo, so if you ever get an alternative 
>> router to AirPort that knows how to handle large packets, it need only 
>> support an Ethernet port to give you the full capacity of your DSL/VDSL 
>> connection.  I use one now; they’re very sweet.
>> 
>>> But how will i go with my other airport base stations i have?
>>> I have two airport express.
>>> Do i have to set them up to or will they automatically join the network?
>> 
>> Tell them to “Join” your existing network.  You can do this during the 
>> initial setup process; zap them with AirPort Utility to factory settings and 
>> you’ll be asked how to configure them.  “Joining” an AirPort network will 
>> see your Express configured as a WDS replicator.  You can then use the 
>> Ethernet ports on your Express to attach devices to your network, in 
>> addition of course to using it as a wireless extender and, optionally, 
>> AirPlay receiver and print server.  Being able to wirelessly connect 
>> ethernet-equipped devices to your network is way cool. :)
>> 
>> There is an important catch I think you should understand, though.  Your 
>> wireless devices connected by way of the receiver are only capable of “N” 
>> speeds.  Moreover, only half of “N” speeds, theoret

Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Brent Harding]

I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the chips 
in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I 
think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would require 
headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it 
wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on 
those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Gatteys" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:43 PM
Subject: radio and iPhone 5S



Hi all!
Just curious.  I have heard that there is a built-in radio chip in most 
smart phones.  Is this true and how does it become activated.  If this is 
the case why do we need special apps to listen to radio?

I have an iPhone 5S and would like to know more about this.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim

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iTunes, automatic behavors

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

When I start up iTunes, all of this automatic activity occurs, & I don’t know 
how to stop it.  The Mac wants to open the store, it pops up my iPad, then my 
iPhone.  I need to wait 30 seconds or so for it to run through it’s little 
routine before I can do what I want to do.  Is there a way to stop this?  I 
want to open up iTunes & go directly where I want to go.

Also, is anyone having Voiceover troubles, where the screen reader seems to 
hang?  I need to navigate away from iTunes then back to get it speaking again.  
I’ve found the quickest way, is f11 for desktop, then a quick f11 again to 
bring back iTunes & Voiceover talking.

Thank you,
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Re: questions about apple watch and sending taps

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I also would like to know better how to do this, as it's apparently not 
working here.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: "MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:13 PM
Subject: questions about apple watch and sending taps


Hi, if I want to digital touch someone how do I do it successfully with 
voice over on.


On my watch i press the button, select the friend, select the digital touch 
option, select the area where it seems there should be input and tap away. 
Not much happens.  I can  also not always receive them reliably.  Any 
pointers on managing digital touches would besot appreciated.


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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Brent Harding  wrote:
> I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the chips
> in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
> think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would require
> headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
> wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
> those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.

If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.

The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. Unless
it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, not 
on a
broadcaster's schedule.

All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - that's
surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
decades).

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Re: Odd Navigation Results with Web Page under OS X 10.10.5

[Craig Werner]

Hello, Sabahattin.

I have indeed reported the link to Apple Accessibility with full
particulars of the allegedly locked table.  I pointed out that the
page is navigable with the Tab and other keys but that results
produced by pressing VO-left and VO-right arrow are disappointing and
anomalous.  They may well tell me to upgrade to El Capitan and Safari
9.0.2, but still, it's worth reporting the problem.

Craig

On 12/29/15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Hi Craig,
>
> Indeed.  Very frustrating.  As always, please tell accessibil...@apple.com
> and show them the page, if you can.  This sort of thing needs to be
> addressed more urgently than other feature enhancements and would be
> considered a showstopper without other platforms to fall back on.
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

Thanks for this. You put me on the right track. Essentially, my issue was a 
wifi limitation of the watch, not supporting 5.0Ghz networks if you can believe 
that. In 2015. smh. So, I’m also using an airport router that won’t let you 
disable a 5.0ghz radio. So, I just connected to my Fios router from my iPhone 
instead, toggled bluetooth off/on, and all was good. 
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Ok, Ricardo, I finally got this working but it took some finessing.
> 
> Here’s what I did, your milage may vary.  First, trouble out T-Mobile I 
> called them and they were surprised this feature worked but they said they 
> wouldn’t block other devices like laptops or iPads so the watch should work.  
> After ruling out the carrier I called Apple.
>   The problem I had was the following.  Under the settings glance, I 
> would see connected over iPhone and if the phone was disabled or turned off 
> it would say disconnected and never change.  I restarted the watch, no 
> change.  I then disabled WiFi Calling and other device calling on my iPhone 
> and reenabled.  Once reenabled I then opened the watch app and went to phone 
> where a WiFi and calls subsection now appear.  I set this option to on and 
> allow to sync.  Still no go.  I then open the iCloud section of settings on 
> my iPhone, click on the part that’s my name and wait, I’m prompted with a 
> password and a few times I’m told it fails do to an ID server error.  Once it 
> authenticates which I achieved by repeating the login process 3 times the 
> watch synced.  I turned off the phone and with in 10 seconds it said 
> connected to WiFi.  I then opened the phone app, clicked on recents and 
> picked a number where the call completed once I tapped on it’s label.  It 
> worked perfectly.  Incoming calls also work with the phone off.  Once the 
> phone restarts the connection reverts to the phone.  The watch should join 
> any simple access points I’ve joined previously now.  It won’t log in to 
> captive portals or cert based authentication environments etc.
> 
> Let me know if that helps at all.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Yup,
>> 
>> Exactly. In the United States, T-mobile, Sprint and AT&T now support wifi 
>> calling. Thats why I’m confused that it works on all my other apple devices 
>> but not the watch.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by 
>>> the carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the 
>>> phone was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was 
>>> away and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint 
>>> enabled this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling 
>>> through the watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection 
>>> to the carrier you have.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
>>> tried this.
>>> 
>>> I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When 
>>> I get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I 
>>> see something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but 
>>> I will confirm.
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
 So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices 
 to use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as 
 well. So I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The 
 call fails every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad 
 rings, my Mac rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed 
 have a wifi connection, I double checked that.
 
 I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
 apple watch does not show up in this list.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
> I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue 
> / symptoms do you see with the watch?
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
>> luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on 
>> the watch.
>> 
>> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
>> T-mobile network.
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Brent Harding]

That's true. I pretty much listen to most stuff streaming these days except 
for the little bit of TV, news, etc that isn't always available online, but 
the actual AM or FM radio itself isn't something we probably need inside of 
a phone. I agree that something has to be come up with to make this way 
forward more efficient because using tons of bandwidth to send tons of 
copies of the same thing could be what makes things slow once it takes off 
to a point where it largely replaces broadcasts.


- Original Message - 
From: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: radio and iPhone 5S



Brent Harding  wrote:
I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the 
chips

in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would 
require

headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most 
on

those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.


If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to 
the

TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under 
iOS.


The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. 
Unless
it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my 
schedule, not on a

broadcaster's schedule.

All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - 
that's

surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
decades).

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Removing an app

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

If I remove an app from my IPhone, will it also automatically get deleted from 
my watch?

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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Jessica Moss]

I love tunin, someone introduced me to that about 3 years ago back when I used 
to use iheart radio, and I like that so much better, especially sense it picks 
back up on whatever station you were listening to when you closed it.
  I love those apps so much better than a regular frequency radio, considering 
the fact, that unless you travel through an area where you lose your internet 
connection, you can listen to the same station forever if you want, and don't 
have to worry about it phasing out just because you're leaving the state.  That 
was one thing I hated about traveling; we would get used to 1 station, then 
about 20 mins or less, I'd have to look again for another station because we 
lost the one we were listening to, or just retire the radio altogether and try 
to find a tape that we all liked.
On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> Brent Harding  wrote:
>> I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the chips
>> in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
>> think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would require
>> headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
>> wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
>> those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
> 
> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.
> 
> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. Unless
> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, 
> not on a
> broadcaster's schedule.
> 
> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - that's
> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
> decades).
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Re: iTunes, automatic behavors

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

iTunes is a pig, isn’t it?  It now does many things, a lot of them at startup.

Turn off Wi-Fi sync for each device to stop that happening at startup.  This 
will of course mean you need to cable up to sync.  Or you could try to avoid 
syncing by going to the cloud.  The option is in each device’s settings.  Or 
you can reset network settings from the devices themselves: Settings, General, 
Reset Network Settings.  You will have to reenter Wi-Fi keys if you reset.

Then there’s the store, Genius, Apple Music and iTunes match.  Disable the 
latter three, if you want.  Then make sure, before you quit iTunes, that you 
are not on a store page.  In the category of media you are in, choose a radio 
button other than iTunes Store, for example My Music in the Music section.  You 
should return there, when you next open iTunes.

iTunes won’t share any content on your network or respond to remote-control 
requests while it’s closed.  If you need to share (Home Sharing, iTunes music 
sharing) or support remote control, the best you can do is leave iTunes 
running, but close all its windows.  iTunes will still be in the Command-Tab 
task switcher, but at least its window won’t distract you.  And this is a 
quicker way to use iTunes than quitting and reopening the entire app.  Press 
Command-0 to bring back the window.

Even though I find what you are describing quite annoying, I have learned 
patience.  The benefits generally outweigh the downsides.  You will find that 
using the cloud obviates the especially slow process of syncing, although it 
has its own downsides too.  But there’s nothing quite like going on holiday 
with a Mac and a phone and just the lightning cable, where iTunes can’t chatter 
away to the network like that, to illustrate what iTunes could be, if it were 
only slimmed down a bit.  Indeed those other, background processes should not 
require iTunes be open to function.  iTunes really is a pig.

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Re: Removing an app

[Ricardo Walker]

I’m pretty sure it will.
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Re: Removing an app

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, thanks.

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I’m pretty sure it will.
On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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If I remove an app from my IPhone, will it also automatically get deleted 
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Jim Gatteys]

Ithink all the listening maps are great but there's nothing like listening to 
radio.  When we had our blizzard this weekend and there were tornadoes not far 
from us I thought how lost we'd be without the internet.  I hope over the air 
radio never goes away.
jg

> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I love tunin, someone introduced me to that about 3 years ago back when I 
> used to use iheart radio, and I like that so much better, especially sense it 
> picks back up on whatever station you were listening to when you closed it.
>  I love those apps so much better than a regular frequency radio, considering 
> the fact, that unless you travel through an area where you lose your internet 
> connection, you can listen to the same station forever if you want, and don't 
> have to worry about it phasing out just because you're leaving the state.  
> That was one thing I hated about traveling; we would get used to 1 station, 
> then about 20 mins or less, I'd have to look again for another station 
> because we lost the one we were listening to, or just retire the radio 
> altogether and try to find a tape that we all liked.
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Brent Harding  wrote:
>>> I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the chips
>>> in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
>>> think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would require
>>> headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
>>> wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
>>> those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
>> 
>> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
>> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
>> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
>> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.
>> 
>> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
>> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
>> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
>> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. 
>> Unless
>> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, 
>> not on a
>> broadcaster's schedule.
>> 
>> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - 
>> that's
>> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
>> decades).
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Scott Granados]

When someone talks about the radio in a cellphone they mean the radio software 
and hardware that talks to the tower in the transceiver sense not the radio as 
in AM FM sense.  Now there’s an exception to that.
Many older phones had AM / FM radio hardware included in the cellular 
radio chip.  This was because vendors started to use software based radios 
which meant instead of building radios out of crystals or phase lock loop clock 
based circuits they used digital convertors and software and could make a radio 
receive any frequency they wanted just by programming the software to work the 
hardware correctly.  This meant they included a radio, added a lead to the 
headphones for an antenna and bam AM/FM radio.  That never was done in the 
iPhone to my knowledge.  No radio in the software or hardware.  Now the radio 
hardware is very complex and I don’t think anyone includes that function at all.

Good luck.

> On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
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> Hi all!
> Just curious.  I have heard that there is a built-in radio chip in most smart 
> phones.  Is this true and how does it become activated.  If this is the case 
> why do we need special apps to listen to radio?
> I have an iPhone 5S and would like to know more about this.
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jim
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Scott Granados]

Few things here, the efficiency point is incorrect.  The Internet is much more 
efficient for broadcasters.  They can use multicast and other technologies to 
help manage the streams more efficiently, they get direct confirmable and 
trackable access to each listener, they get a lot more demographic and 
marketing info, no FCC and associated rules, no engineering transmitter 
requirement, no transmitter and high power, tower, etc and so forth.  I have a 
good friend at Clearchannel that told me they expect someday to have no more 
high powered over the air transmitters.  The whole thing will be done over the 
digital network. 
I’m with you, I haven’t used an over the air radio in 5 years.  I use 
XM or Internet exclusively.  I’m not interested in some fat bastard in 
washington censoring what I can or can’t listen to on the airwaves.  I don’t 
want my music bleeped.  I want my political content untouched.  So a lot like 
us have abandoned the public airwaves and more are making the move.


> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brent Harding  wrote:
>> I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the chips
>> in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
>> think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would require
>> headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
>> wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
>> those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
> 
> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.
> 
> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. Unless
> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, 
> not on a
> broadcaster's schedule.
> 
> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - that's
> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
> decades).
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Scott Granados]

I know, this was the old days, reminds me of old family road trips.  XM is 
another great solution to the problem of having to change channels.  XM got 
their start I think being sold in truckstops for obvious reasons.

 


> On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I love tunin, someone introduced me to that about 3 years ago back when I 
> used to use iheart radio, and I like that so much better, especially sense it 
> picks back up on whatever station you were listening to when you closed it.
>  I love those apps so much better than a regular frequency radio, considering 
> the fact, that unless you travel through an area where you lose your internet 
> connection, you can listen to the same station forever if you want, and don't 
> have to worry about it phasing out just because you're leaving the state.  
> That was one thing I hated about traveling; we would get used to 1 station, 
> then about 20 mins or less, I'd have to look again for another station 
> because we lost the one we were listening to, or just retire the radio 
> altogether and try to find a tape that we all liked.
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Brent Harding  wrote:
>>> I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the chips
>>> in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
>>> think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would require
>>> headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
>>> wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
>>> those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
>> 
>> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
>> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
>> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
>> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.
>> 
>> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
>> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
>> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
>> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. 
>> Unless
>> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, 
>> not on a
>> broadcaster's schedule.
>> 
>> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - 
>> that's
>> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
>> decades).
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Scott Granados]

Ok, so the thing is to make your airport work all you need do is have the same 
network name on 2.4 and 5.0 ghz.  The SSID and associated hardware addresses 
are the same so it joins either way and then uses the best available option 
which is generally the 5.0 ghz if available or the 2.4 ghz type N.  You 
shouldn’t need to change networks entirely.

Not sure the speed FIOS you have but upgrade to the Quantum router if 
you haven’t.  Much better WiFi including 5.0 ghz and AC.

Good luck



> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Thanks for this. You put me on the right track. Essentially, my issue was a 
> wifi limitation of the watch, not supporting 5.0Ghz networks if you can 
> believe that. In 2015. smh. So, I’m also using an airport router that won’t 
> let you disable a 5.0ghz radio. So, I just connected to my Fios router from 
> my iPhone instead, toggled bluetooth off/on, and all was good. 
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, Ricardo, I finally got this working but it took some finessing.
>> 
>> Here’s what I did, your milage may vary.  First, trouble out T-Mobile I 
>> called them and they were surprised this feature worked but they said they 
>> wouldn’t block other devices like laptops or iPads so the watch should work. 
>>  After ruling out the carrier I called Apple.
>>  The problem I had was the following.  Under the settings glance, I 
>> would see connected over iPhone and if the phone was disabled or turned off 
>> it would say disconnected and never change.  I restarted the watch, no 
>> change.  I then disabled WiFi Calling and other device calling on my iPhone 
>> and reenabled.  Once reenabled I then opened the watch app and went to phone 
>> where a WiFi and calls subsection now appear.  I set this option to on and 
>> allow to sync.  Still no go.  I then open the iCloud section of settings on 
>> my iPhone, click on the part that’s my name and wait, I’m prompted with a 
>> password and a few times I’m told it fails do to an ID server error.  Once 
>> it authenticates which I achieved by repeating the login process 3 times the 
>> watch synced.  I turned off the phone and with in 10 seconds it said 
>> connected to WiFi.  I then opened the phone app, clicked on recents and 
>> picked a number where the call completed once I tapped on it’s label.  It 
>> worked perfectly.  Incoming calls also work with the phone off.  Once the 
>> phone restarts the connection reverts to the phone.  The watch should join 
>> any simple access points I’ve joined previously now.  It won’t log in to 
>> captive portals or cert based authentication environments etc.
>> 
>> Let me know if that helps at all.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup,
>>> 
>>> Exactly. In the United States, T-mobile, Sprint and AT&T now support wifi 
>>> calling. Thats why I’m confused that it works on all my other apple devices 
>>> but not the watch.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
 On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
 
 I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by 
 the carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the 
 phone was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I 
 was away and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that 
 Sprint enabled this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone 
 calling through the watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct 
 connection to the carrier you have.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
 Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
 
 
 So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
 tried this.
 
 I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  
 When I get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see 
 if I see something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue 
 though but I will confirm.
 
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices 
> to use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as 
> well. So I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. 
> The call fails every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my 
> iPad rings, my Mac rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does 
> indeed have a wifi connection, I double checked that.
> 
> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, 
> my apple watch does not show up in this list.
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
>> I’m able to place and receive 

Macbook Pro and external HDD

[Grant]

Hi all,

Is it unheard of to have issues with removable drives after waking a Macbook 
Pro? I’ve noticed on occasion my external hard drive appears to be unmounted 
after my Macbook Pro wakes from sleep, and I need to disconnect then reconnect 
it for it to show up in the Finder. Obviously, this is undesirable as there is 
the chance of data loss or corruption, but I wanted to check if others have 
experienced this and if there’s anything you guys would recommend checking—for 
example, to rule out a hardware issue.

Thanks.

Grant

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