How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Hi all.
Is there some way to keep synced the iTunes library on my MBP13 and on my 
iMac?


Thanks.
Gabriel. 


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iOS 7.1.1 and some problems

[William Windels]

Hello,

I thinks since iOS 7.1.1 on my iphone 5, I have some strange problems.

1.  In the calendar:
I can't always changing starting/ending time (date, hours, minutes). When I do 
a swipe right, I go e.g. from starting hours to ending date.
And sometimes, When I do a swipe back , I see the fields that where missing but 
sometimes not.
This seems the case in all time/date fields in the native calendar app.

2.  And a second problem that occur in different native iOS apps:
I swipe to a button, the button is spoken and when I do a double tab on the 
screen, I hear the sound like there is no element selected for activation.

I hope that this problems are clearly explained and perhaps someone can give 
suggestions or confirmations of this problems.

Kind regards,
William 

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Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

[Steve Holmes]

Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is 
necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to speech, 
what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on the display 
or is it not shown there either?

On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have also seen this for years.
> 
> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
> command which you can see in action by doing the following.
> 
> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
> speech go wonky! lol! :)
> 
> 1 open a text file with TextEdit
> 
> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three brackets 
> as in: [[[ command ]]]
> 
> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as 
> in: This is just a test
> 
> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
> slowly.
> 
> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
> 
> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
> 
> Hope this helps explain this a bit.
> 
> Have a great day All!
> 
> Cara :)
> ---
> iOS design and development - LookTel.com
> ---
> View my Online Portfolio at:
> 
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
> 
> Follow me on Twitter!
> 
> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and line-by-line 
> reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't appear to work 
> anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured out the rules that 
> cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. Thanks.
> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
>> 
>> This is some [[[secret]]] text.
>> 
>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
>> low-level bug.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
>>> can read character by character and it shows up, though.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
>>> Feynman
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
 can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
 Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
 Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole] 
 is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation to "most" before 
 continuing. Here's the line:
 
  [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
 solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
 
 I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
 and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
 isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
 this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
 getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded by 
 double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk might be 
 getting mixed up.
 
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

[Teresa Cochran]

It seems to relate to speech only. It shows up fine on Braille displays.

Teresa

Slow down; you’ll get there faster.

On May 5, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is 
> necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to 
> speech, what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on 
> the display or is it not shown there either?
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have also seen this for years.
>> 
>> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
>> command which you can see in action by doing the following.
>> 
>> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
>> speech go wonky! lol! :)
>> 
>> 1 open a text file with TextEdit
>> 
>> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three 
>> brackets as in: [[[ command ]]]
>> 
>> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as 
>> in: This is just a test
>> 
>> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
>> slowly.
>> 
>> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
>> 
>> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
>> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
>> 
>> Hope this helps explain this a bit.
>> 
>> Have a great day All!
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> ---
>> iOS design and development - LookTel.com
>> ---
>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>> 
>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>> 
>> Follow me on Twitter!
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and 
>> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't 
>> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured 
>> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. 
>> Thanks.
>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
>>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
>>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
>>> 
>>> This is some [[[secret]]] text.
>>> 
>>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
>>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
>>> low-level bug.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
 can read character by character and it shows up, though.
 
 Teresa
 
 “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] 
> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation 
> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line:
> 
> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
> 
> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
> and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
> isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
> this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
> getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded 
> by double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk 
> might be getting mixed up.
> 
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: iOS 7.1.1 and some problems

[Jessica]

I have seen the calendar problem. I'm not really sure of a workaround. My 
suggestion is that these problems be reported to Apple Accessability.if you 
tell them, maybe they could offer a workaround.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2014, at 5:50 AM, William Windels  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I thinks since iOS 7.1.1 on my iphone 5, I have some strange problems.
> 
> 1.In the calendar:
> I can't always changing starting/ending time (date, hours, minutes). When I 
> do a swipe right, I go e.g. from starting hours to ending date.
> And sometimes, When I do a swipe back , I see the fields that where missing 
> but sometimes not.
> This seems the case in all time/date fields in the native calendar app.
> 
> 2.And a second problem that occur in different native iOS apps:
> I swipe to a button, the button is spoken and when I do a double tab on the 
> screen, I hear the sound like there is no element selected for activation.
> 
> I hope that this problems are clearly explained and perhaps someone can give 
> suggestions or confirmations of this problems.
> 
> Kind regards,
> William 
> 
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Re: problem with selecting appropriate text in Text Edit

[Scott Berry]

I think this is what's happening.  I am goig to report this.  It also tends to 
happen in Safari too.
On May 4, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> I'd also recommend making sure you interact with the text area and check that 
> your cursors are following each other properly by navigating with VO and 
> arrow keys. It's possible to navigate in TextEdit just using the arrow keys, 
> but sometimes this means the VoiceOver cursor gets left behind somewhere.
> Having said all that, I haven't experienced your problem so I'm not exactly 
> sure what's causing it, but hopefully these recommendations will help.
> Best,
> Nic
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Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

[Alex Hall]

If you add a space anywhere in the opening three brackets, that seems to fix 
the problem.
On May 5, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> It seems to relate to speech only. It shows up fine on Braille displays.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets 
>> is necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to 
>> speech, what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on 
>> the display or is it not shown there either?
>> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have also seen this for years.
>>> 
>>> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
>>> command which you can see in action by doing the following.
>>> 
>>> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
>>> speech go wonky! lol! :)
>>> 
>>> 1 open a text file with TextEdit
>>> 
>>> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three 
>>> brackets as in: [[[ command ]]]
>>> 
>>> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file 
>>> as in: This is just a test
>>> 
>>> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
>>> slowly.
>>> 
>>> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
>>> 
>>> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
>>> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps explain this a bit.
>>> 
>>> Have a great day All!
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> ---
>>> iOS design and development - LookTel.com
>>> ---
>>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>>> 
>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>>> 
>>> Follow me on Twitter!
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and 
>>> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't 
>>> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured 
>>> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. 
>>> Thanks.
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same 
 thing. So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the 
 triple-bracket that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example 
 that also fails:
 
 This is some [[[secret]]] text.
 
 I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I 
 move focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a 
 pretty low-level bug.
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
> can read character by character and it shows up, though.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
>> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
>> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
>> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] 
>> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation 
>> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line:
>> 
>> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
>> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
>> 
>> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go 
>> back and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if 
>> there isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can 
>> reproduce this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the 
>> brackets are getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands 
>> are surrounded by double brackets, and I think the speech manager that 
>> lets VO talk might be getting mixed up.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

[Regina Alvarado]

On the mini, especially in the web, I will try to move through links and 
intermittently VO will go crazy and skip around as if sliding down the page. I 
tried to turn off VO and restart it hoping it would work. However, I am unable 
to turn it off. I thought the command was VO F2 F2, but this doesn't work. How 
do I stop and restart VO? I know you can turn it off with I think VO f10, but 
does that only mute like the three-finger double tap? 

I would also like to know how to find windows open as my machine is telling me 
there are windows open but can't find them. They are not the ones on the dock. 
Any help you can give deeply appreciated. The skipping is annoying.


reggie and Allegra

On May 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is 
necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to speech, 
what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on the display 
or is it not shown there either?

> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have also seen this for years.
> 
> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
> command which you can see in action by doing the following.
> 
> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
> speech go wonky! lol! :)
> 
> 1 open a text file with TextEdit
> 
> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three brackets 
> as in: [[[ command ]]]
> 
> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as 
> in: This is just a test
> 
> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
> slowly.
> 
> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
> 
> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
> 
> Hope this helps explain this a bit.
> 
> Have a great day All!
> 
> Cara :)
> ---
> iOS design and development - LookTel.com
> ---
> View my Online Portfolio at:
> 
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
> 
> Follow me on Twitter!
> 
> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and line-by-line 
> reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't appear to work 
> anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured out the rules that 
> cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. Thanks.
>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
>> 
>> This is some [[[secret]]] text.
>> 
>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
>> low-level bug.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>>> On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
>>> can read character by character and it shows up, though.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
>>> Feynman
>>> 
 On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
 can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
 Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
 Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole] 
 is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation to "most" before 
 continuing. Here's the line:
 
 [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
 solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
 
 I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
 and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
 isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
 this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
 getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded by 
 double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk might be 
 getting mixed up.
 
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

[Jessica]

Command f5, it is a toggle command. It will turn it on and off.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> On the mini, especially in the web, I will try to move through links and 
> intermittently VO will go crazy and skip around as if sliding down the page. 
> I tried to turn off VO and restart it hoping it would work. However, I am 
> unable to turn it off. I thought the command was VO F2 F2, but this doesn't 
> work. How do I stop and restart VO? I know you can turn it off with I think 
> VO f10, but does that only mute like the three-finger double tap? 
> 
> I would also like to know how to find windows open as my machine is telling 
> me there are windows open but can't find them. They are not the ones on the 
> dock. Any help you can give deeply appreciated. The skipping is annoying.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is 
> necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to 
> speech, what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on 
> the display or is it not shown there either?
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have also seen this for years.
>> 
>> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
>> command which you can see in action by doing the following.
>> 
>> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
>> speech go wonky! lol! :)
>> 
>> 1 open a text file with TextEdit
>> 
>> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three 
>> brackets as in: [[[ command ]]]
>> 
>> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as 
>> in: This is just a test
>> 
>> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
>> slowly.
>> 
>> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
>> 
>> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
>> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
>> 
>> Hope this helps explain this a bit.
>> 
>> Have a great day All!
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> ---
>> iOS design and development - LookTel.com
>> ---
>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>> 
>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>> 
>> Follow me on Twitter!
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and 
>> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't 
>> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured 
>> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. 
>> Thanks.
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
>>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
>>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
>>> 
>>> This is some [[[secret]]] text.
>>> 
>>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
>>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
>>> low-level bug.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
 can read character by character and it shows up, though.
 
 Teresa
 
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> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] 
> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation 
> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line:
> 
> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
> 
> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
> and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
> isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
> this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
> getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded 
> by double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk 
> might be getting mixed up.
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Finding Open Windows (was Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping)

[Alex Hall]

To find open windows that cmd-tab won't reach, press vo-f1 twice (that is, hold 
down the vo keys and hit f1 twice). This places you in a menu of all open apps; 
arrow down to the one you want, right arrow to open its menu, and choose the 
window. The areas you can't reach are likely Notification Center or System 
dialogs, which appear first in the list.
On May 5, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> On the mini, especially in the web, I will try to move through links and 
> intermittently VO will go crazy and skip around as if sliding down the page. 
> I tried to turn off VO and restart it hoping it would work. However, I am 
> unable to turn it off. I thought the command was VO F2 F2, but this doesn't 
> work. How do I stop and restart VO? I know you can turn it off with I think 
> VO f10, but does that only mute like the three-finger double tap? 
> 
> I would also like to know how to find windows open as my machine is telling 
> me there are windows open but can't find them. They are not the ones on the 
> dock. Any help you can give deeply appreciated. The skipping is annoying.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is 
> necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to 
> speech, what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on 
> the display or is it not shown there either?
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have also seen this for years.
>> 
>> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
>> command which you can see in action by doing the following.
>> 
>> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
>> speech go wonky! lol! :)
>> 
>> 1 open a text file with TextEdit
>> 
>> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three 
>> brackets as in: [[[ command ]]]
>> 
>> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as 
>> in: This is just a test
>> 
>> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
>> slowly.
>> 
>> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
>> 
>> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
>> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
>> 
>> Hope this helps explain this a bit.
>> 
>> Have a great day All!
>> 
>> Cara :)
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>> ---
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and 
>> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't 
>> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured 
>> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. 
>> Thanks.
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
>>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
>>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
>>> 
>>> This is some [[[secret]]] text.
>>> 
>>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
>>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
>>> low-level bug.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
 can read character by character and it shows up, though.
 
 Teresa
 
 “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] 
> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation 
> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line:
> 
> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
> 
> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
> and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
> isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
> this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
> getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded 
> by double brackets, and I t

problem with a friend's mac

[Mike Arrigo]

Hey everyone, a friend of mine has an issue with her mac, I can't 
figure it out, so perhaps someone else on the list has seen this. When 
pressing control F8 to go to the status menus, a window appears with 2 
unlabeled radio buttons and 2 tables, one allows you to choose what 
contacts are displayed, and the other table lists the actual contacts. 
There is also a search field. If we press VO+m twice, the status menus 
work properly, but control+F8 used to work fine for her as well. We are 
thinking it's something related to I message, it has an option to 
display in the menu bar, but it's dimmed and we can't uncheck it, she 
doesn't have anything in her log in items, and rebooting did not solve 
it. Has anyone else seen this and if so, how do we get rid of it?


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Re: Searching for special characters in Pages

[Phil Halton]

thanks, I went into system prefs/keyboard/shortcuts/categories and selected 
"services. There's a treasure trove of text manipulating services to enable, 
especially with the addition of the services pack  I downloaded a week  ago.
" 
On May 5, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> RE the services issue I think you might find the TextEdit still there if you 
> look carefully but otherwise I'd suggest it depends on what your default app 
> for opening rtf files is.
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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When you have HomeSharing enabled on both machines, you can make it so that 
they check each others Libraries for new purchases and sync.  Or, you could use 
the iTunes Match service through Apple which will also maintain synced 
playlists along with all your music.

Later...

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On May 5, 2014, at 2:17 AM, Gabriele Battaglia  wrote:

> Hi all.
> Is there some way to keep synced the iTunes library on my MBP13 and on my 
> iMac?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: problem with a friend's mac

[Alex Hall]

I haven't, but the first place I'd look is System Preferences > Keyboard > 
Shortcuts. I don't know which category this will be in, but try Application 
Shortcuts first. Look through all the categories to see if that keystroke is 
assigned to anything.
On May 5, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> Hey everyone, a friend of mine has an issue with her mac, I can't figure it 
> out, so perhaps someone else on the list has seen this. When pressing control 
> F8 to go to the status menus, a window appears with 2 unlabeled radio buttons 
> and 2 tables, one allows you to choose what contacts are displayed, and the 
> other table lists the actual contacts. There is also a search field. If we 
> press VO+m twice, the status menus work properly, but control+F8 used to work 
> fine for her as well. We are thinking it's something related to I message, it 
> has an option to display in the menu bar, but it's dimmed and we can't 
> uncheck it, she doesn't have anything in her log in items, and rebooting did 
> not solve it. Has anyone else seen this and if so, how do we get rid of it?
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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Gabriele Battaglia]

From: "Tim Kilburn" 
When you have HomeSharing enabled on both machines,[...]

Sorry, what is the HomeSharing and where I can find it?
Thanks.

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Re: Searching for special characters in Pages

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Found similar questions in other discussion groups and folks have 
verified that the new toy version of pages no longer lets you 
search/replace non-printing characters like tabs, linefeed and carriage 
returns even if you properly paste them in. I guess that fell by the 
wayside in the re-write and hopefully will come back soon.


CB

On 5/3/14, 3:13 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

In text edit I can search for and replace such characters as new lines, by 
pressing option return in the find or replace field. In pages, these keystrokes 
don't produce new line characters. I tried looking for the new line and 
carriage return characters in the characters window by pressing command control 
space, but I couldn't find them anywhere.
How can I search for  new line characters in pages? I often reformat word 
documents by removing multiple new line characters and replacing them with only 
one such character so that they read better.
At present, I accomplish this in text edit by searching for New line, New line 
and replacing it with New line and replacing all occurrences. As I said, I 
can't do this in pages and I'm out of answers.




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Service for pdf text extraction?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Before I reformatted my Mac, I had a handy service that would pull the text 
from a pdf file (not OCR) and save it to a text or html file. I can't find it 
now, and I need to be able to do this again. Does anyone happen to know where I 
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Re: Service for pdf text extraction?

[isaac]

What service did you use?
isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On May 5, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Before I reformatted my Mac, I had a handy service that would pull the text 
> from a pdf file (not OCR) and save it to a text or html file. I can't find it 
> now, and I need to be able to do this again. Does anyone happen to know where 
> I can download such a service? Thanks.
> 
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> mehg...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

HomeSharing is found under the File menu.  When you turn on HomeSharing, you 
must use the same AppleID on both machines and they must also both be on the 
same network subnet to be visible to each other.  There are settings within the 
HomeSharing pane that tell iTunes to look at other computers with HomeSharing 
turned on for new music, apps and other iTunes media for syncing purposes.  You 
can use HomeSharing to stream media from the other computer and/or copy that 
same media between computers.  HomeSharing is also the protocol used by the 
Apple TV to stream media from various computers in your network.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> From: "Tim Kilburn" 
> When you have HomeSharing enabled on both machines,[...]
> 
> Sorry, what is the HomeSharing and where I can find it?
> Thanks.
> 
> Gabriel.
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Re: Service for pdf text extraction?

[Alex Hall]

I don't remember, that's the problem. By "service", I mean a service you 
install, like an Automator service, not something you sign up for or use 
online. I used to be able to find a PDF, hit a keystroke, and have a text file 
appear. It was great.
On May 5, 2014, at 10:33 AM, isaac  wrote:

> What service did you use?
> isaac
> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>  Skype gold_wildcat 
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Before I reformatted my Mac, I had a handy service that would pull the text 
>> from a pdf file (not OCR) and save it to a text or html file. I can't find 
>> it now, and I need to be able to do this again. Does anyone happen to know 
>> where I can download such a service? Thanks.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: problem with a friend's mac

[Mike Arrigo]

Will definitely check that, she normally doesn't change those settings, 
but perhaps something was changed accidentally.

Original message:
I haven't, but the first place I'd look is System Preferences > 
Keyboard > Shortcuts. I don't know which category this will be in, but 
try Application Shortcuts first. Look through all the categories to see 
if that keystroke is assigned to anything.


On May 5, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Mike Arrigo > wrote:



Hey everyone, a friend of mine has an issue with her mac, I can't 
figure it out, so perhaps someone else on the list has seen this. When 
pressing control F8 to go to the status menus, a window appears with 2 
unlabeled radio buttons and 2 tables, one allows you to choose what 
contacts are displayed, and the other table lists the actual contacts. 
There is also a search field. If we press VO+m twice, the status menus 
work properly, but control+F8 used to work fine for her as well. We are 
thinking it's something related to I message, it has an option to 
display in the menu bar, but it's dimmed and we can't uncheck it, she 
doesn't have anything in her log in items, and rebooting did not solve 
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Re: Service for pdf text extraction?

[Karen Lewellen]

From your description, I suppose you are not talking about robobraille?

www.robobraille.org.
They do convert files rather swiftly, conv...@robobraille.org.
the only software I recall ispdftotext, which could indeed be installed 
and is  an open source tool.

 Kare

On Mon, 5 May 2014, Alex Hall wrote:


I don't remember, that's the problem. By "service", I mean a service you 
install, like an Automator service, not something you sign up for or use online. I used 
to be able to find a PDF, hit a keystroke, and have a text file appear. It was great.
On May 5, 2014, at 10:33 AM, isaac  wrote:


What service did you use?
isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat

On May 5, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
Before I reformatted my Mac, I had a handy service that would pull the text 
from a pdf file (not OCR) and save it to a text or html file. I can't find it 
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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Thank you Tim.
I have HomeSharing both active on my MBP and iMac, but the libraries are still 
different.
I'm signed in with the some (the only I have) Apple ID.
What do I have to do in order to start the Sync process?
Thanks.

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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

homeSharing doesn't really just sync automatically.  It requires you to go into 
the HomeShared Library of the other computer, telling it to show items not on 
this computer, then importing those over to the computer you're sitting at.  
You can access the other HomeShared Library by pressing VO-space on the "Music" 
pop-up menu just to the right of the Search field.  When you navigate through 
that pop-over, you'll see the other HomeShared Library that you can access.  
Finish one computer then do the same for the other and the media should all 
reside on both machines.  In the future, when you open iTunes, it should poll 
for other HomeShare computers and copy over purchased media.

Remember, this is not a total sync, it will not sync playlists and such, this 
sort of syncing requires a subscription to iTunes Match, although iTunes Match 
is only for your music library, it does not do anything with your other media.  
There are other rather messy ways of forcing your iTunes Library to be on one 
machine and attempting to share it with others, but this can be problematic 
when you attempt to run iTunes from outside your Home network.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Thank you Tim.
> I have HomeSharing both active on my MBP and iMac, but the libraries are 
> still different.
> I'm signed in with the some (the only I have) Apple ID.
> What do I have to do in order to start the Sync process?
> Thanks.
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Virtual Machines

[Tristan]

Hi list,

I just ordered a MacBook Air, the model that came out last week. As I
said in my past thread, I'm looking to virtualize a copy of Windows 7
or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Which app provides the best interface and
fluidity between OSes? This is probably a very opinionated topic, so
facts would be nice in regards to accessibility, usability and
features.

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Re: Virtual Machines

[Alex Hall]

VMWare Fusion. Fortunately, opinions matter little here; Parallels is 
inaccessible, Virtual Box is inaccessible unless you're good with the Terminal, 
and Fusion is fully accessible. Of course, Bootcamp is your other option, but 
that can eat up a lot more disk space, and said space is at a premium on an Air.
On May 5, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> I just ordered a MacBook Air, the model that came out last week. As I
> said in my past thread, I'm looking to virtualize a copy of Windows 7
> or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
> Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Which app provides the best interface and
> fluidity between OSes? This is probably a very opinionated topic, so
> facts would be nice in regards to accessibility, usability and
> features.
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heading levels

[Christina C.]

Hello all,

Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, what if 
I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to navigate the 
heading level 3's.
Thanks in advance,
Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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Re: heading levels

[isaac]

First open the rotor by pressing vo u. Next press the right arrow to get to 
headings. Next type the number of heading level such as three to show only 
headings level three.
isaac
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 Skype gold_wildcat 

On May 5, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Christina C.  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, what 
> if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to 
> navigate the heading level 3's.
> Thanks in advance,
> Christina
> 
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
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Re: network printer again

[Kayaker]

Hi,

Nice choice. The Brother printers have excellent Mac support. The DW in the 
name should mean its' a duplex printer and has wireless support. If that's the 
case, then there's no need to hook it up via USB. What you will want to do is 
use the wireless support and have it join your network. The bad part is, you 
will probably need sighted assistance to connect it to your network because 
picking the wireless network is done via the printer and it's LCD display. Once 
it's on the network, you can access it via a web interface to configure 
additional options like giving it a static IP address.  At the very least you 
want to give it a DHCP reservation, meaning it will always have the same IP 
address when it power cycles and joins your network. This is done via the 
Airport Utility. If the printer has a network RJ-45 port in addition to the 
wireless support, that would be the best option and would avoid having to 
configure it from the printer's horrid LCD interface.

If it does have a ethernet port, going to the airport utility and looking at 
the connected devices, you should be able to discover your printer's IP 
address, then entering that in Safari will take you to the web configuration 
page for brother printers.

There's a lot here that's techno speak, but bottom line is to network the 
brother printer with an ethernet cable if its' supported, and if not use the 
wireless option. You should not have to use USB via the extreme.

Did I mention Brother has great Mac support?

Best,
--k
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questions.



On May 4, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Well, Ray, I managed to get it connected to my mac without sighted help.
> I can see everything so far in the print and fax and scanners section of the 
> system prefs.  However, I am still trying to figure out how to get it working 
> on my network via my airport extreme.
> I do have it networked on my mac and my husband can access it on his mac as 
> well.
> hth,
> Cait
> 
> On May 4, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Tell me, is that Brother printer of yours accessible via Voice Over?  By 
>> which, as you will gather, I mean can one access the conection to Wifi and 
>> so forth via the printer preferences window?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi There!
>>> so, OK, I feel like a total dweeb now!
>>> We found out that the HP printer we had was discontinued.  It was the 1505. 
>>>  We couldn't find drivers for it or anything.
>>> 
>>> We went out and got a brother hl 2270 dw and now I have that connected to 
>>> my mac via USB but would love to get it connected to our network through 
>>> the extreme.
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Kayaker  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 When you say it is a network printer and you attached it to your airport 
 extreme, did you do it by USB or by ethernet? It is hard to give you any 
 feedback without the exact HP model number. If you plug the printer into 
 the USB port, you need to configure it with the Airport Utility app. If it 
 is a ethernet connection, you will have to assign it an IP address which 
 may not be as easy without sighted assistance.
 
 Feel free to contact me off list for specifics on your model.
 
 Best,
 --k
 
 Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
 questions.
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
  wrote:
 
> I'm asking this here again since I didn't see a response yet.
> 
> I'm trying to get a printer on my network.
> 
> We have a airport extreme that we want to attach an hp printer to.  it's 
> supposed to be a network printer.
> I've already attached the printer to it, but it doesn't show up on the 
> network.
> We also can't seem to find any drivers anywhere for the printer.
> anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks!
> Caitlyn
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Re: heading levels

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Christina,

If you use the Web Rotor, in Headings, you can type a number and only the 
headings of that level will be shown.

Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, you 
can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that level.

Cheers,

Anne


On 5 May 2014, at 18:59, Christina C.  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, what 
> if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to 
> navigate the heading level 3's.
> Thanks in advance,
> Christina
> 
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
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Re: looking for program....

[erik burggraaf]

Can finereader save in EPub format?  Then your bookmarking options open up 
considerably.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2014-05-03, at 5:48 PM, Mark Furness  wrote:

> That can do book marks like k1000.
> 
> As I am studying and ocr books, I like to book markinto levels, then 
> summarizd them, as I can do in k1000.
> 
> Since k1000 can only run in windows, I'm trying to figure out what is 
> necessary to perform the same in a Mac environment.
> abbey pro can do the ocr.
> What editing app can do the rest?
> 
> Thank you all for help!
> 
> Mark
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Re: network printer again

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi again,
I don't see a lcd screen on this printer..
I did try and use their so called wireless set up wizzard, but it was asking 
questions I had no idea what they were talking about!

What you wrote below makes total sense, but unfortunately we just don't have 
people with working eyes around here very often.  The dogs aren't much help!
I can usually get this tuff given time and lots of tries.  I managed to set up 
our wireless network myself with the extreme and our cruddy router from our 
phone company, for example.

Here's hope..
Cait

On May 5, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Kayaker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Nice choice. The Brother printers have excellent Mac support. The DW in the 
> name should mean its' a duplex printer and has wireless support. If that's 
> the case, then there's no need to hook it up via USB. What you will want to 
> do is use the wireless support and have it join your network. The bad part 
> is, you will probably need sighted assistance to connect it to your network 
> because picking the wireless network is done via the printer and it's LCD 
> display. Once it's on the network, you can access it via a web interface to 
> configure additional options like giving it a static IP address.  At the very 
> least you want to give it a DHCP reservation, meaning it will always have the 
> same IP address when it power cycles and joins your network. This is done via 
> the Airport Utility. If the printer has a network RJ-45 port in addition to 
> the wireless support, that would be the best option and would avoid having to 
> configure it from the printer's horrid LCD interface.
> 
> If it does have a ethernet port, going to the airport utility and looking at 
> the connected devices, you should be able to discover your printer's IP 
> address, then entering that in Safari will take you to the web configuration 
> page for brother printers.
> 
> There's a lot here that's techno speak, but bottom line is to network the 
> brother printer with an ethernet cable if its' supported, and if not use the 
> wireless option. You should not have to use USB via the extreme.
> 
> Did I mention Brother has great Mac support?
> 
> Best,
> --k
> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
> questions.
> 
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, Ray, I managed to get it connected to my mac without sighted help.
>> I can see everything so far in the print and fax and scanners section of the 
>> system prefs.  However, I am still trying to figure out how to get it 
>> working on my network via my airport extreme.
>> I do have it networked on my mac and my husband can access it on his mac as 
>> well.
>> hth,
>> Cait
>> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Tell me, is that Brother printer of yours accessible via Voice Over?  By 
>>> which, as you will gather, I mean can one access the conection to Wifi and 
>>> so forth via the printer preferences window?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi There!
 so, OK, I feel like a total dweeb now!
 We found out that the HP printer we had was discontinued.  It was the 
 1505.  We couldn't find drivers for it or anything.
 
 We went out and got a brother hl 2270 dw and now I have that connected to 
 my mac via USB but would love to get it connected to our network through 
 the extreme.
 Cait
 
 On May 3, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Kayaker  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> When you say it is a network printer and you attached it to your airport 
> extreme, did you do it by USB or by ethernet? It is hard to give you any 
> feedback without the exact HP model number. If you plug the printer into 
> the USB port, you need to configure it with the Airport Utility app. If 
> it is a ethernet connection, you will have to assign it an IP address 
> which may not be as easy without sighted assistance.
> 
> Feel free to contact me off list for specifics on your model.
> 
> Best,
> --k
> 
> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
> questions.
> 
> 
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I'm asking this here again since I didn't see a response yet.
>> 
>> I'm trying to get a printer on my network.
>> 
>> We have a airport extreme that we want to attach an hp printer to.  it's 
>> supposed to be a network printer.
>> I've already attached the printer to it, but it doesn't show up on the 
>> network.
>> We also can't seem to find any drivers anywhere for the printer.
>> anyone have any suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: Virtual Machines

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi,
I use vm fusion.
I hear that Paralells is not accessable at all.

There is another possible solution called virtual box, but I don't know 
anything about that.

You will have to use an external dvd drive to install your windows and probably 
other windows programs, unless you have iso files.

Which mac air did you get?  I have the eleven and a half inch one myself and 
love it to death!  It's wonderful!  It hasnothing on my imac except disk 
storage.
Cait

On May 5, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> I just ordered a MacBook Air, the model that came out last week. As I
> said in my past thread, I'm looking to virtualize a copy of Windows 7
> or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
> Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Which app provides the best interface and
> fluidity between OSes? This is probably a very opinionated topic, so
> facts would be nice in regards to accessibility, usability and
> features.
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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Kayaker]

Hi,

Short answer is no. You cannot easily keep a iTunes library synched across two 
computers.  

I know home sharing was suggested, but that is sharing, not synching.

The two closest work arounds for this that I know of are these:
1. Use a library on a NAS, that both computers use. Lots of problems here in 
that only one can write to the library at a time. Works best if you are doing 
this and can only open it from one computer at a time. Of course, this means 
your library isn't portable, since it lives on your network.
2. Use a copy or synch utility like carbon copy cloner or another app to synch 
your music folder between the two computers on a scheduled basis. This assumes 
you have iTunes manage your music so everything is in that folder. You'll want 
to keep latest version dates on items as the copy rule.

But as for iTunes, it was never designed to do this and there's no nice 
solution.

Good luck.
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> Hi all.
> Is there some way to keep synced the iTunes library on my MBP13 and on my 
> iMac?
> 
> Thanks.
> Gabriel. 
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trouble with copying files

[Jenine Stanley]

I am having a bit of varying difficulty copying files and I wonder if someone 
can walk me through this in Mavericks. 

I have files in the Documents folder, which does not show up on my doc btw, and 
I want to copy them to an SD card. 

I have inserted the SD card 
and have gone to the file list in the documents folder. 

I turned off cursor tracking and moved to the next file I wanted to select and 
hit VO-space. This said the file was added to the selection but then opened it 
in Preview. It did this for every file I added to the selection. 

Then it began just kicking me out of the Documents folder and onto the desktop 
which showed the SD card. 

I finally selected all of my files and hit command-c to copy them to the 
clipboard. This apparently went fine but then it was time to go back to that 
desktop and get to the SD card. 

I never could figure out how to get back there. Hitting command-shift-d got me 
to Finder but didn't show the SD card by name. 

I have another annoying problem which I'm sure I accidentally caused but need 
to know how to fix. When I go into the list of files in the documents folder 
and want to go down to the Devices list to get to external drives, I have 
several programs listed before Devices and as I arrow down, each one opens. How 
do I get them off this list? 

I know I'm doing something really screwed up here as it can't be that difficult 
to copy files. :) 

Thanks to all.Jenine Stanley
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Re: heading levels

[Ray Foret Jr]

Now this I did not know.  Goes to show don't it?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On May 5, 2014, at 12:13 PM, isaac  wrote:

> First open the rotor by pressing vo u. Next press the right arrow to get to 
> headings. Next type the number of heading level such as three to show only 
> headings level three.
> isaac
> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>  Skype gold_wildcat 
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, what 
>> if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to 
>> navigate the heading level 3's.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Christina
>> 
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
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Re: trouble with copying files

[isaac]

After you copy the filesI would recommend you  close the documents and then vo 
right arrow to the  SD card and then  press command o to open it.  Once there 
try pasting the files.

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Re: trouble with copying files

[David Chittenden]

The select command is VO command enter for noncontiguous files. Command c to 
copy. Command v to copy the items, or command option v to move the items to the 
new location. In the list view, be in the parent folder with the desired folder 
highlighted. es

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> On 6 May 2014, at 6:16, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> I am having a bit of varying difficulty copying files and I wonder if someone 
> can walk me through this in Mavericks. 
> 
> I have files in the Documents folder, which does not show up on my doc btw, 
> and I want to copy them to an SD card. 
> 
> I have inserted the SD card 
> and have gone to the file list in the documents folder. 
> 
> I turned off cursor tracking and moved to the next file I wanted to select 
> and hit VO-space. This said the file was added to the selection but then 
> opened it in Preview. It did this for every file I added to the selection. 
> 
> Then it began just kicking me out of the Documents folder and onto the 
> desktop which showed the SD card. 
> 
> I finally selected all of my files and hit command-c to copy them to the 
> clipboard. This apparently went fine but then it was time to go back to that 
> desktop and get to the SD card. 
> 
> I never could figure out how to get back there. Hitting command-shift-d got 
> me to Finder but didn't show the SD card by name. 
> 
> I have another annoying problem which I'm sure I accidentally caused but need 
> to know how to fix. When I go into the list of files in the documents folder 
> and want to go down to the Devices list to get to external drives, I have 
> several programs listed before Devices and as I arrow down, each one opens. 
> How do I get them off this list? 
> 
> I know I'm doing something really screwed up here as it can't be that 
> difficult to copy files. :) 
> 
> Thanks to all.Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: trouble with copying files

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Try hitting command space to select the files you want.
Personally, after I copy all the files I want, I hit command option w and close 
all the open windows and that lands me on my desk top in the finder.  then I 
find the drive I want to paste or move to.

Sorry, I can't help about your programs opening problem.

Good luck!
Caitlyn

On May 5, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

> I am having a bit of varying difficulty copying files and I wonder if someone 
> can walk me through this in Mavericks. 
> 
> I have files in the Documents folder, which does not show up on my doc btw, 
> and I want to copy them to an SD card. 
> 
> I have inserted the SD card 
> and have gone to the file list in the documents folder. 
> 
> I turned off cursor tracking and moved to the next file I wanted to select 
> and hit VO-space. This said the file was added to the selection but then 
> opened it in Preview. It did this for every file I added to the selection. 
> 
> Then it began just kicking me out of the Documents folder and onto the 
> desktop which showed the SD card. 
> 
> I finally selected all of my files and hit command-c to copy them to the 
> clipboard. This apparently went fine but then it was time to go back to that 
> desktop and get to the SD card. 
> 
> I never could figure out how to get back there. Hitting command-shift-d got 
> me to Finder but didn't show the SD card by name. 
> 
> I have another annoying problem which I'm sure I accidentally caused but need 
> to know how to fix. When I go into the list of files in the documents folder 
> and want to go down to the Devices list to get to external drives, I have 
> several programs listed before Devices and as I arrow down, each one opens. 
> How do I get them off this list? 
> 
> I know I'm doing something really screwed up here as it can't be that 
> difficult to copy files. :) 
> 
> Thanks to all.Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Virtual Machines

[Mike Arrigo]

You want to use VMware Fusion, no question. Parallels is not 
accessible, and the company seems to have no interest in fixing this.

Original message:

Hi list,



I just ordered a MacBook Air, the model that came out last week. As I
said in my past thread, I'm looking to virtualize a copy of Windows 7
or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Which app provides the best interface and
fluidity between OSes? This is probably a very opinionated topic, so
facts would be nice in regards to accessibility, usability and
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Re: Virtual Machines

[Timothy Emmons]

Hi guys, I've had the opportunity to play with virtual box a bit, and
it's definitely not accessible. Your best bet is to stick to VmWare
Fusion since it is by far the most accessible. Hope that helps. Take
care.
On 5/5/14, Caitlyn and Maggie  wrote:
> Hi,
> I use vm fusion.
> I hear that Paralells is not accessable at all.
>
> There is another possible solution called virtual box, but I don't know
> anything about that.
>
> You will have to use an external dvd drive to install your windows and
> probably other windows programs, unless you have iso files.
>
> Which mac air did you get?  I have the eleven and a half inch one myself and
> love it to death!  It's wonderful!  It hasnothing on my imac except disk
> storage.
> Cait
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I just ordered a MacBook Air, the model that came out last week. As I
>> said in my past thread, I'm looking to virtualize a copy of Windows 7
>> or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
>> Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Which app provides the best interface and
>> fluidity between OSes? This is probably a very opinionated topic, so
>> facts would be nice in regards to accessibility, usability and
>> features.
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Re: trouble with copying files

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks. I actually got the selection issue fixed by hitting VO-command-enter 
for each file to add it to the total, after turning off cursor tracking that 
is. 

I'll try your suggestion though for getting back to where I need to be. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On May 5, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Try hitting command space to select the files you want.
> Personally, after I copy all the files I want, I hit command option w and 
> close all the open windows and that lands me on my desk top in the finder.  
> then I find the drive I want to paste or move to.
> 
> Sorry, I can't help about your programs opening problem.
> 
> Good luck!
> Caitlyn
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
>> I am having a bit of varying difficulty copying files and I wonder if 
>> someone can walk me through this in Mavericks. 
>> 
>> I have files in the Documents folder, which does not show up on my doc btw, 
>> and I want to copy them to an SD card. 
>> 
>> I have inserted the SD card 
>> and have gone to the file list in the documents folder. 
>> 
>> I turned off cursor tracking and moved to the next file I wanted to select 
>> and hit VO-space. This said the file was added to the selection but then 
>> opened it in Preview. It did this for every file I added to the selection. 
>> 
>> Then it began just kicking me out of the Documents folder and onto the 
>> desktop which showed the SD card. 
>> 
>> I finally selected all of my files and hit command-c to copy them to the 
>> clipboard. This apparently went fine but then it was time to go back to that 
>> desktop and get to the SD card. 
>> 
>> I never could figure out how to get back there. Hitting command-shift-d got 
>> me to Finder but didn't show the SD card by name. 
>> 
>> I have another annoying problem which I'm sure I accidentally caused but 
>> need to know how to fix. When I go into the list of files in the documents 
>> folder and want to go down to the Devices list to get to external drives, I 
>> have several programs listed before Devices and as I arrow down, each one 
>> opens. How do I get them off this list? 
>> 
>> I know I'm doing something really screwed up here as it can't be that 
>> difficult to copy files. :) 
>> 
>> Thanks to all.Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Virtual Machines

[Alex Hall]

True. As I said, though, Virtual Box does have a command line interface. If 
you're comfortable in Terminal, you can administer things from there. It's not 
as convenient or easy at all, but I hear it is doable. I only mention this 
because it is free, whereas Fusion is $40 or $60, I don't remember which.
On May 5, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Timothy Emmons  wrote:

> Hi guys, I've had the opportunity to play with virtual box a bit, and
> it's definitely not accessible. Your best bet is to stick to VmWare
> Fusion since it is by far the most accessible. Hope that helps. Take
> care.
> On 5/5/14, Caitlyn and Maggie  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I use vm fusion.
>> I hear that Paralells is not accessable at all.
>> 
>> There is another possible solution called virtual box, but I don't know
>> anything about that.
>> 
>> You will have to use an external dvd drive to install your windows and
>> probably other windows programs, unless you have iso files.
>> 
>> Which mac air did you get?  I have the eleven and a half inch one myself and
>> love it to death!  It's wonderful!  It hasnothing on my imac except disk
>> storage.
>> Cait
>> 
>> On May 5, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> I just ordered a MacBook Air, the model that came out last week. As I
>>> said in my past thread, I'm looking to virtualize a copy of Windows 7
>>> or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
>>> Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Which app provides the best interface and
>>> fluidity between OSes? This is probably a very opinionated topic, so
>>> facts would be nice in regards to accessibility, usability and
>>> features.
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giant thanks!

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks to several solutions posed here, I was able to select and copy my files! 
You guys rock! 

Now if anyone knows how to get these programs out of the list so I can get to 
other things without them opening. :)
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Re: How to sync two iTunes Libraries?

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Ciao Kayaker, yes, I think you centered the question at 100%.

The idea to have the whole library on a NAS it sounds cool to me, even thought 
I will loose its portability.

Did you mean I would access it with just one computer at a time?
So: if I'm listening music with MBP and I open iTunes on the iMac, I will 
receive an error cause the second computer can't access the shared library?

I'm also considering the idea to subscribe one year of iTunes Match but the 
weird is that you must continue to pay year after year, in order to keep them 
synced.

Anyway, thank you for your kind answer.
Gabriel

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Single letter navigation was Re: heading levels

[Christina C.]

Anne,

I never new about this. Also, what is single letter navigation and where can I 
enable this? 

Thanks,
Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On May 5, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, 
> you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that level.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: Single letter navigation was Re: heading levels

[Alex Hall]

It is how you can move around webpages by letters (h for headings, l for links, 
etc). Open the VO Utility with vo-f8, adding the function key if necessary, and 
go down to Commanders (or hit cmd-8). Select the Quick Nav tab, find the 
checkbox about enabling single key navigation, and check it. Next time you use 
Quick Nav in Safari, you can move around much more easily and efficiently. 
Don't forget to turn it off, though, or when you go to type, VO will be jumping 
all over the place.
On May 5, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

> Anne,
> 
> I never new about this. Also, what is single letter navigation and where can 
> I enable this? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
> 
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, 
>> you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that level.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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looking for a bluetooth headset that talks

[Scott Berry]

Has anyone ran in to a good bluetooth headset which talks when it pairs besides 
the Motorola? 

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convering files to ogg

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

I am looking for a good batch converter which will convert files to ogg.  I 
know by default iTunes doesn't do this but I have the site where I can get the 
appropriate plug-in.

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Re: Virtual Machines

[matthew dyer]

Fusion is the only one that I am aware of that is accessible.  HTH.

Matthew


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> Hi list,
> 
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> or Windows 8.1. Which VM solution is more accessible with Voiceover --
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Re: looking for a bluetooth headset that talks

[Alex Hall]

The Aftershokz do this. It says when it pairs, and when it is in pairing mode. 
Also, if you wait a bit after pausing music or a phone call, it will say the 
battery status when you hit a volume button.
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Re: Problem with Pages Jumping Around

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Ann,

Thanks so much for the info, will test this, I think I am going to have to just 
do a full reinstall on this system once I get everything backed up, as the 
problem just started occurring and I think it is yet another issue that might 
just be on my system. Thanks for the feedback.
On May 4, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Brian,
> 
> Have you changed any of your VO settings recently? I find that everything 
> works better when my mouse pointer ignores the other cursors. Also, have you 
> got Quick Nav on?
> 
> After that, my next suggestion is to repair permissions.
> 
> For the record, I'm having no such problem with Pages.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 4 May 2014, at 20:57, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> This is a really strange annoying issue that just started occurring recently 
>> in pages. If I am trying to read a multipage document I will use VO down 
>> arrow to quickly go through some notes, and instead of going to the next 
>> line Pages will jump to the bottom of a document. I know this behavior 
>> shouldn't be normal is this is how I have read documents for years, did a 
>> setting change, but in the new most updated Pages I am finding it very 
>> difficult to go from line to line. Any ideas what might be wrong? Thanks,
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Re: Single letter navigation was Re: heading levels

[David Taylor]

Or simply interact when you want to type. The likelihood is you'll want to tab 
to the next form field in many cases when you type anyway, and if the tab key 
is set to auto interact, you can tab through forms and deal with them.

Cheers
Dave

On 5 May 2014, at 22:01, Alex Hall  wrote:

> It is how you can move around webpages by letters (h for headings, l for 
> links, etc). Open the VO Utility with vo-f8, adding the function key if 
> necessary, and go down to Commanders (or hit cmd-8). Select the Quick Nav 
> tab, find the checkbox about enabling single key navigation, and check it. 
> Next time you use Quick Nav in Safari, you can move around much more easily 
> and efficiently. Don't forget to turn it off, though, or when you go to type, 
> VO will be jumping all over the place.
> On May 5, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
>> Anne,
>> 
>> I never new about this. Also, what is single letter navigation and where can 
>> I enable this? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
>> 
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
>> On May 5, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, 
>>> you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that 
>>> level.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
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Re: Searching for special characters in Pages

[Phil Halton]

thanks Chris, for now, as a work-around, I simply select the entire doc, create 
a new text edit window with selected text and do the find/replace there, then 
copy and paste back to Pages.
MS Word is still looking pretty good for most of my grown-up word processing 
needs, but I’ve not given up on Pages just yet. I wish they’d get it all 
together and then just leave it alone.


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> Found similar questions in other discussion groups and folks have verified 
> that the new toy version of pages no longer lets you search/replace 
> non-printing characters like tabs, linefeed and carriage returns even if you 
> properly paste them in. I guess that fell by the wayside in the re-write and 
> hopefully will come back soon.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/3/14, 3:13 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> In text edit I can search for and replace such characters as new lines, by 
>> pressing option return in the find or replace field. In pages, these 
>> keystrokes don't produce new line characters. I tried looking for the new 
>> line and carriage return characters in the characters window by pressing 
>> command control space, but I couldn't find them anywhere.
>> How can I search for  new line characters in pages? I often reformat word 
>> documents by removing multiple new line characters and replacing them with 
>> only one such character so that they read better.
>> At present, I accomplish this in text edit by searching for New line, New 
>> line and replacing it with New line and replacing all occurrences. As I 
>> said, I can't do this in pages and I'm out of answers.
>> 
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Re: LastPass and Safari - Major Problem!

[Steve Holmes]

Yes, I tried full screen mode in Safari and I had much better luck. I only 
tried one site due to limited time but at least focus stayed there in the right 
place without jumping back to last pass. I'm not used to full screen mode here 
because it appears to hide things like menu / tool bars but I can toggle that 
mode on and off easily enough with the Command-Ctrl f key.

Thanks again for the suggestion.

On May 2, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I use all my apps in full-screen mode, so this hasn't been an issue for me. I 
> just make sure this is the case in safari, and LastPass works fine. I suspect 
> it might be an incompatibility issue with VO and LastPass in Safari.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I wasn't sure who the culprit was. When I started seeing this problem, 
>> Safari had just been upgraded and LastPass had been upgraded fairly recently 
>> too. I will have to try the maximize trick next time I need to use it. I'm 
>> surprised this doesn't affect people not using VO as it seems to grab 
>> keyboard focus. But I have other focus issues with Safari too so why I 
>> haven't tried contacting anyone at Last Pass yet.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> On May 1, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> this has been a problem for a time now. You need to maximise the screen. 
>>> you can use CTRL + Command and F. Might help if you write to last pass and 
>>> tell them the problem. The more that write the better.
>>> Max
>>> 
>>> On 2 May 2014, at 10:26 am, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 I noticed with some recent changes to Safari and LastPass that now 
 whenever the LastPass plug-in is active, I can't keep focus from jumping 
 over into the LastPass HTML pane. I never had this problem before. It 
 makes it impossible to spend any time on a given site such as filling 
 forms without the cursor suddenly jumping over to the LastPass page. Is 
 anyone else seeing this? I'm running latest prod version of Mavericks, 
 Safari and LastPass.
 
 This is so bad now, I might have to dump this and go with 1Password or 
 something. The iOS version of LastPass is great.
 
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using the gmail website

[Laura Bratton]

HI All,
I am upgrading from Snow leopard to Maverick. I need help using the gmail 
website. Any tips on how to navigate the site would be helpful. What settings  
do I need to use so that it wil work best?
Thank you,
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Re: heading levels

[John D. Lipsey]

Is there a quick way to toggle single letter navigation on the fly? I use 
quicknav all the time, but have never used single letter navigation before. 
It's something I'd like to play with a bit, but only if I can quickly toggle it 
on and off. Even if not, it may be worth poking around.

DFTBA!

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> Hello Christina,
> 
> If you use the Web Rotor, in Headings, you can type a number and only the 
> headings of that level will be shown.
> 
> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, 
> you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that level.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2014, at 18:59, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, what 
>> if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to 
>> navigate the heading level 3's.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Christina
>> 
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
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Re: heading levels

[Alex Hall]

No, there is no quick way to turn it on or off. Despite that, it is worth 
trying - you need only press the left and right arrows together to toggle Quick 
nav, so it is a very easy thing to turn on or off. I mostly leave it off, but I 
do find it useful in Safari and, to a lesser extent, apps like iTunes and Xcode.
On May 5, 2014, at 1:44 PM, John D. Lipsey  wrote:

> Is there a quick way to toggle single letter navigation on the fly? I use 
> quicknav all the time, but have never used single letter navigation before. 
> It's something I'd like to play with a bit, but only if I can quickly toggle 
> it on and off. Even if not, it may be worth poking around.
> 
> DFTBA!
> 
> John D. Lipsey
> johnl1...@gmail.com
> Twitter: @J_TGL
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 11:16, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Christina,
>> 
>> If you use the Web Rotor, in Headings, you can type a number and only the 
>> headings of that level will be shown.
>> 
>> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, 
>> you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that level.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 May 2014, at 18:59, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, what 
>>> if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to 
>>> navigate the heading level 3's.
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Christina
>>> 
>>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
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Moving playlist out of folder?

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

So, I have one of Doug's apple scripts to move playlists into playlist folders, 
but does anyone know if it is possible to undo this action?

I've accidentally moved a playlist into a folder and would like to move it back 
out again.  I've tried mouse keys, VO drag/drop, etc.  Any ideas?

Lol, my next step is too ask a sighted person to try with a mouse.

Thanks,
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Re: convering files to ogg

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

If you want to play with the terminal the sox command will convert to 
ogg, although I don't usually use ogg so I couldn't really test the 
output file. I installed sox using MacPorts. Once installed I just did


sox test.aiff test.ogg

which took my test.aiff file and made it into a .ogg file.

CB

On 5/5/14, 5:10 PM, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

I am looking for a good batch converter which will convert files to ogg.  I 
know by default iTunes doesn't do this but I have the site where I can get the 
appropriate plug-in.



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Using Moodle on the mac?

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi all.
I am looking enrolling in CSUN's assistive technology certificate program. Has 
anyone ever used the "Moodle" e-learning software with VO? If so, how was 
accessibility? Thanks.

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Re: Using Moodle on the mac?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
I have used Moodle with VoiceOver for a while now. It seems, at least the parts 
I have had to use, to be very accessible as long as browsers and such are up to 
date.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
On May 5, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

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> I am looking enrolling in CSUN's assistive technology certificate program. 
> Has anyone ever used the "Moodle" e-learning software with VO? If so, how was 
> accessibility? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Using Moodle on the mac?

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi Jeffrey.
Have you used blackboard as well? Thanks.

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> Hi,
> I have used Moodle with VoiceOver for a while now. It seems, at least the 
> parts I have had to use, to be very accessible as long as browsers and such 
> are up to date.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> On May 5, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> I am looking enrolling in CSUN's assistive technology certificate program. 
>> Has anyone ever used the "Moodle" e-learning software with VO? If so, how 
>> was accessibility? Thanks.
>> 
>> Matt Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
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>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
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Re: LastPass and Safari - Major Problem!

[Teresa Cochran]

Are you saying the menus and toolbars are hidden visually? I haven't noticed 
them being hidden from VO in full-screen mode. you can just press VO-m to go 
into the menus as usual, and the toolbar is still available as well.

Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

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> Yes, I tried full screen mode in Safari and I had much better luck. I only 
> tried one site due to limited time but at least focus stayed there in the 
> right place without jumping back to last pass. I'm not used to full screen 
> mode here because it appears to hide things like menu / tool bars but I can 
> toggle that mode on and off easily enough with the Command-Ctrl f key.
> 
> Thanks again for the suggestion.
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> I use all my apps in full-screen mode, so this hasn't been an issue for me. 
>> I just make sure this is the case in safari, and LastPass works fine. I 
>> suspect it might be an incompatibility issue with VO and LastPass in Safari.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wasn't sure who the culprit was. When I started seeing this problem, 
>>> Safari had just been upgraded and LastPass had been upgraded fairly 
>>> recently too. I will have to try the maximize trick next time I need to use 
>>> it. I'm surprised this doesn't affect people not using VO as it seems to 
>>> grab keyboard focus. But I have other focus issues with Safari too so why I 
>>> haven't tried contacting anyone at Last Pass yet.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 this has been a problem for a time now. You need to maximise the screen. 
 you can use CTRL + Command and F. Might help if you write to last pass and 
 tell them the problem. The more that write the better.
 Max
 
 On 2 May 2014, at 10:26 am, Steve Holmes  wrote:
 
> I noticed with some recent changes to Safari and LastPass that now 
> whenever the LastPass plug-in is active, I can't keep focus from jumping 
> over into the LastPass HTML pane. I never had this problem before. It 
> makes it impossible to spend any time on a given site such as filling 
> forms without the cursor suddenly jumping over to the LastPass page. Is 
> anyone else seeing this? I'm running latest prod version of Mavericks, 
> Safari and LastPass.
> 
> This is so bad now, I might have to dump this and go with 1Password or 
> something. The iOS version of LastPass is great.
> 
> Any ideas?
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Re: heading levels

[David Taylor]

I have used activities. In browsers my activity has quick nav and single letter 
nav on, in chat type apps I have quick nav on but single letter off, and by 
default I have both off. When I want to type in a browser I either interact or 
turn Quick Nav off.

Cheers
Dave

On 6 May 2014, at 03:19, Alex Hall  wrote:

> No, there is no quick way to turn it on or off. Despite that, it is worth 
> trying - you need only press the left and right arrows together to toggle 
> Quick nav, so it is a very easy thing to turn on or off. I mostly leave it 
> off, but I do find it useful in Safari and, to a lesser extent, apps like 
> iTunes and Xcode.
> On May 5, 2014, at 1:44 PM, John D. Lipsey  wrote:
> 
>> Is there a quick way to toggle single letter navigation on the fly? I use 
>> quicknav all the time, but have never used single letter navigation before. 
>> It's something I'd like to play with a bit, but only if I can quickly toggle 
>> it on and off. Even if not, it may be worth poking around.
>> 
>> DFTBA!
>> 
>> John D. Lipsey
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>> Twitter: @J_TGL
>> 
>> On May 5, 2014, at 11:16, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Christina,
>>> 
>>> If you use the Web Rotor, in Headings, you can type a number and only the 
>>> headings of that level will be shown.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation enabled, 
>>> you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first heading of that 
>>> level.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5 May 2014, at 18:59, Christina C.  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For example, 
 what if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only want to 
 navigate the heading level 3's.
 Thanks in advance,
 Christina
 
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 
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