To find open windows that cmd-tab won't reach, press vo-f1 twice (that is, hold down the vo keys and hit f1 twice). This places you in a menu of all open apps; arrow down to the one you want, right arrow to open its menu, and choose the window. The areas you can't reach are likely Notification Center or System dialogs, which appear first in the list. On May 5, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the mini, especially in the web, I will try to move through links and > intermittently VO will go crazy and skip around as if sliding down the page. > I tried to turn off VO and restart it hoping it would work. However, I am > unable to turn it off. I thought the command was VO F2 F2, but this doesn't > work. How do I stop and restart VO? I know you can turn it off with I think > VO f10, but does that only mute like the three-finger double tap? > > I would also like to know how to find windows open as my machine is telling > me there are windows open but can't find them. They are not the ones on the > dock. Any help you can give deeply appreciated. The skipping is annoying. > > > reggie and Allegra > > On May 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is > necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to > speech, what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on > the display or is it not shown there either? > >> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have also seen this for years. >> >> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech >> command which you can see in action by doing the following. >> >> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's >> speech go wonky! lol! :) >> >> 1 open a text file with TextEdit >> >> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three >> brackets as in: [[[ command ]]] >> >> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as >> in: This is just a test >> >> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite >> slowly. >> >> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute. >> >> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech >> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets. >> >> Hope this helps explain this a bit. >> >> Have a great day All! >> >> Cara :) >> --- >> iOS design and development - LookTel.com >> --- >> View my Online Portfolio at: >> >> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> >> Follow me on Twitter! >> >> https://twitter.com/ModelCara >> >> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and >> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't >> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured >> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. >> Thanks. >>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. >>> So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket >>> that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails: >>> >>> This is some [[[secret]]] text. >>> >>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move >>> focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty >>> low-level bug. >>> >>> CB >>> >>>> On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I >>>> can read character by character and it shows up, though. >>>> >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. >>>> Feynman >>>> >>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone >>>>> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know >>>>> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. >>>>> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] >>>>> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation >>>>> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line: >>>>> >>>>> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self >>>>> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole]]]]; >>>>> >>>>> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back >>>>> and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there >>>>> isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce >>>>> this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are >>>>> getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded >>>>> by double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk >>>>> might be getting mixed up. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex Hall >>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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