If you add a space anywhere in the opening three brackets, that seems to fix the problem. On May 5, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
> It seems to relate to speech only. It shows up fine on Braille displays. > > Teresa > > Slow down; you’ll get there faster. > > On May 5, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets >> is necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to >> speech, what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on >> the display or is it not shown there either? >> >> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have also seen this for years. >>> >>> this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech >>> command which you can see in action by doing the following. >>> >>> I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's >>> speech go wonky! lol! :) >>> >>> 1 open a text file with TextEdit >>> >>> 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three >>> brackets as in: [[[ command ]]] >>> >>> 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file >>> as in: This is just a test >>> >>> Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite >>> slowly. >>> >>> The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute. >>> >>> So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech >>> command, but does not speak what is in those brackets. >>> >>> Hope this helps explain this a bit. >>> >>> Have a great day All! >>> >>> Cara :) >>> --- >>> iOS design and development - LookTel.com >>> --- >>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>> >>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>> >>> Follow me on Twitter! >>> >>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara >>> >>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and >>> line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't >>> appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured >>> out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. >>> Thanks. >>> On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same >>>> thing. So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the >>>> triple-bracket that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example >>>> that also fails: >>>> >>>> This is some [[[secret]]] text. >>>> >>>> I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I >>>> move focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a >>>> pretty low-level bug. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I >>>>> can read character by character and it shows up, though. >>>>> >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. >>>>> Feynman >>>>> >>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone >>>>>> can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know >>>>>> Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. >>>>>> Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] >>>>>> isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation >>>>>> to "most" before continuing. Here's the line: >>>>>> >>>>>> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self >>>>>> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole]]]]; >>>>>> >>>>>> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go >>>>>> back and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if >>>>>> there isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can >>>>>> reproduce this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the >>>>>> brackets are getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands >>>>>> are surrounded by double brackets, and I think the speech manager that >>>>>> lets VO talk might be getting mixed up. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> mehg...@icloud.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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