Re: bad files in mobile documents iCloud?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Just thought of a question.  Why would I want first to move that documents 
folder to the desk top?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Sure worth a try.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I would agree that it is likely a Apple ID change that is causing this 
>> issue.  If you changed your Apple ID, then the documents within the Mobile 
>> Documents folder do not belong to the new Apple ID, thus you do not have 
>> permission to open them.  I don't believe that this is any way a measure of 
>> the reliability of Apple's iCloud service.  You might be able to get around 
>> this by copying the Documents folder from the com~apple~TextEdit folder in 
>> your Mobile Documents folder onto your Desktop, then doing a Get Info on the 
>> folder.  Once the Info window is open, navigate to the Sharing & Permissions 
>> section and then in the Actions pop-up menu, apply the permissions to all 
>> enclosed items.  You'll likely need to unlock the lock first but after this, 
>> the permissions of the items in that folder should now belong to you.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:51 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>>  From the recovery partition with command-r during startup, choose, 
>>> Terminal, from the Utilities window.  Then, type, resetpassword and you 
>>> will find a button for resetting your permissions.  If you changed your 
>>> Apple ID, though, this might have something to do with your inability to 
>>> access some documents.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 I did change my Apple ID, but, Some documents I can still open and others 
 I cannot.
 
 How do I reset my permitions in terminal?  CAn this be done from the 
 runtime partition?  I didn't know  that was possible.
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 8, 2014, at 11:12 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
> You can run a permissions check from the recovery system or use, reset 
> password from Terminal in the Recovery system and reset your own user 
> permissions.  I don't know why you wouldn't have permission to access 
> your own documents unless you are somehow using a different Apple ID.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> Last night, I posted about not being able to open some documents I had 
>> saved in iCloud.  John asked me if there was any error message when I 
>> tried to open them in Text edit, and, I indicated there was not.  So, I 
>> went in to
>> ~/Library/MobileDocuments/ComappleTextEdit/Documents 
>> where my iCloud documents are stored and found i not only could not open 
>> them from there, I can't get rid of them either.  When I try to put them 
>> in the trash, I get this:
>> 
>> "text Items can't be copied to "Trash" because you don't have permission 
>> to read them.".  Any ideas what to do next?
>> 
>> PS.  I was able to get at the information I needed via other means, but, 
>> if this is how reliable Apple's iCloud service is with critically 
>> important documents, I'm really not as sure about it as I once was.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
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how to take out an app from a lounchpad folder

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello all!
I was working with a student and we created some folder in launchpad b 
accident. can somebody help us please to take out the apps from that folders 
with VoiceOver, or how can we return to the default order of launchpad?
Thanks for your ideas.

Daniela Rubio T
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Re: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard

[Phil Halton]

david, can you be specific? For example, there is no insert key on a 
MacBookAir, or any of the portable keyboards, so how do you map an "insert" key 
that doesn't exist?
If you read my message carefully, you'll see that the procedure I am using, or 
thinking about using. Is this how its done? Specifics would be great, like 
which screens I need to get into and what buttons to press if not 
self-explanatory. Basically, just the "how to" of it.

Thanks for any help.

On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:28 PM, David Taylor  wrote:

> You can do the key remapping in Fusion's settings. You remap insert to a key 
> of your shoice, then remap that same key to insert, and you have a wroking 
> insert key on whatever key you put it on. I found with anything that remaps 
> the caps lock key, you lose caps lock completely so can never use it when you 
> want it, so that isn't really the best solution.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 9 Mar 2014, at 02:26, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  What my wife wound up doing was going to pqrs.org and downloading a couple 
>> programs from them.  One is keyRemapper I believe and the other was 
>> PcKeyboardhack.  There is also a link here that gives info on it though some 
>> of the info on configuring everything is slightly different and outdated. 
>> The link is as follows.
>> 
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Shannon Gerdts
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Phil Halton
>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:47 PM
>> To: Macvisionaries
>> Subject: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard
>> 
>> Currently I'm using sharpkeys to remap the grave accent key on my MBA to the 
>> caps lock key and vice versa, for use as a jaws modifier key in windows7.  I 
>> want to eliminate sharp keys and have fusion map grave accent to the insert 
>> key. I've done this before but forgot the procedure. I think its:
>> 1) in fusions keyboard and mouse settings, edit the profile and "add" a key 
>> mapping.
>> 2) this brings up a window where there is a series of checkboxes for certain 
>> modifier keys, and a combo box where you can type a key.
>> 3) in the "from" combo box, I type "`" (grave accent), and in the "to" combo 
>> box I press the insert key on an attached full-sized USB keyboard. this puts 
>> "extended numpad insert key" in the combo box.
>> 4) Press okay and make sure key remaps are enabled.
>> 
>> What are others doing to get an insert key (or a caps lock key) passed to 
>> windows7 vm's?
>> 
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Re: Virtual machine help

[Phil Halton]

You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows VM. The 
workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a caps lock or 
insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above the left tab key and 
below the escape key) to caps lock. 
This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows program 
called "sharpkeys". . 
Another way,  is to remap the grave accent key to the  insert key from within 
fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the grave accent key 
as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or insert, whichever 
you setup.

Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely used, 
and so makes a good candidate for remapping. 

I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act as a 
caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock as 
modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to the 
Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need for a 
program like sharpkeys.

There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com, search 
for "sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search results. . It can be a 
little tricky to understand and use the first time, so if you need help and 
specific directions on its use, sing out.

BTW: I find that keeping a full-sized Apple USB keyboard around is a big help 
when using these remap procedures. I just plug it in and it gives me a insert 
key that jaws and NVDA will respond to as their modifier keys. Its really 
indispensable when you start changing the modifier keys and need both a caps 
lock and an insert key temporarily.

For example, using the fusion method, I find I need that keyboard in order to 
have an actual insert key I can press when trying to make the fusion key remap 
as there is no actual insert key on the apple portable keyboards.

  
On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm having some problems using JAWS in a virtual machine and wondering
> if anyone can help.
> 
> I'm using JAWS 14 on Windows 7 via VMware.  I usually use an external
> keyboard with my MacBook because I'm one handed. I normally  use the
> desktop keyboard layout for JAWS but am without an external keyboard
> now. I'm wondering how people manage on the Mac keyboard with JAWS.
> My understanding is that JAWS should be able to use the caps lock as
> the JAWS key but I can't get this to work.  I chose laptop layout from
> the keyboard layout in basic settings but whenever I press caps lock
> Voiceover just says caps lock on or off and JAWS acts if I'm not
> pressing the JAWS key e.g. if I press caps lock and t for title, JAWS
> just says t. It's as if the caps lock key isn't being passed through
> to Windows. But this is strange because it works properly when I use
> NVDA instead of JAWS.
> 
> Can anyone help?  Am I missing something?  Any ideas why JAWS/Windows
> isn't picking up the caps lock?  Any other way round it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard

[David Taylor]

Hi,

You are mapping a windows key to a Mac key, so the insert key comes from 
Windows, and you map it to a key on your Mac keyboard. You go into fusion 
settings with command-e, find the keyboard tab, and add the two mappings. The 
effect is that when in Fusion, your Mac key of choice is turned into an insert 
key and lost to Mac, but as soon as you go into a Mac app, you get it back 
again. If Mac had an insert key, you wouldn't need to do the mapping at all!

On 9 Mar 2014, at 13:25, Phil Halton  wrote:

> david, can you be specific? For example, there is no insert key on a 
> MacBookAir, or any of the portable keyboards, so how do you map an "insert" 
> key that doesn't exist?
> If you read my message carefully, you'll see that the procedure I am using, 
> or thinking about using. Is this how its done? Specifics would be great, like 
> which screens I need to get into and what buttons to press if not 
> self-explanatory. Basically, just the "how to" of it.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:28 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> You can do the key remapping in Fusion's settings. You remap insert to a key 
>> of your shoice, then remap that same key to insert, and you have a wroking 
>> insert key on whatever key you put it on. I found with anything that remaps 
>> the caps lock key, you lose caps lock completely so can never use it when 
>> you want it, so that isn't really the best solution.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 02:26, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> What my wife wound up doing was going to pqrs.org and downloading a couple 
>>> programs from them.  One is keyRemapper I believe and the other was 
>>> PcKeyboardhack.  There is also a link here that gives info on it though 
>>> some of the info on configuring everything is slightly different and 
>>> outdated. The link is as follows.
>>> 
>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Shannon Gerdts
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Phil Halton
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:47 PM
>>> To: Macvisionaries
>>> Subject: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard
>>> 
>>> Currently I'm using sharpkeys to remap the grave accent key on my MBA to 
>>> the caps lock key and vice versa, for use as a jaws modifier key in 
>>> windows7.  I want to eliminate sharp keys and have fusion map grave accent 
>>> to the insert key. I've done this before but forgot the procedure. I think 
>>> its:
>>> 1) in fusions keyboard and mouse settings, edit the profile and "add" a key 
>>> mapping.
>>> 2) this brings up a window where there is a series of checkboxes for 
>>> certain modifier keys, and a combo box where you can type a key.
>>> 3) in the "from" combo box, I type "`" (grave accent), and in the "to" 
>>> combo box I press the insert key on an attached full-sized USB keyboard. 
>>> this puts "extended numpad insert key" in the combo box.
>>> 4) Press okay and make sure key remaps are enabled.
>>> 
>>> What are others doing to get an insert key (or a caps lock key) passed to 
>>> windows7 vm's?
>>> 
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deleting multiple files in one go

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi guys,
I have a large directory of AVI files that I converted into mp3, but for some 
reason the AVI files are still there. How can I delete them all at once? thanks.
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Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

[Alex Hall]

I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few weeks 
ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was there. I 
could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. Yes, I enabled it 
in my security settings.

As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This person 
has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on speech 
commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines  wrote:

> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think 
> we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most people 
> it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have verified 
> written expression disorders and other disabling conditions that require the 
> use of dragon would be helpful to make certain that we keep those people than 
> mine. Personally I do use Dragon because of the above-mentioned written 
> expression disorder. I've only used version three until five have had no real 
> problems with voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay separate from my 
> normal computing experience. I know that there is some concern about being 
> able to use the product by telling it what to do as far as screen motion I 
> think though that you run the risk of entangling with VoiceOver and that 
> could lead to some headaches. When I get the chance I will actually use 
> version four and will see how good or bad it is with VoiceOver. The concerns 
> that Dragon is inaccessible are not true. I have not had any problems using 
> it after making a few modifications they are minor. The biggest thing one 
> needs to remember is one should use the headset and keep voiceover and Dragon 
> separate as far as
> 
> Sincerely, Maurice Mines.
> Student accessibility aid.
> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791.
> Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
> 
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I 
>> haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice commands to 
>> move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and tables, I don't see 
>> the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does well. That said, Dragon 
>> learns as you correct it, whereas the mac does not, and Dragon is (from 
>> reviews I've read) more accurate even out of the box, with no training. If 
>> you have problems with the keyboard, look at Dragon, but be sure to test if 
>> for accessibility and the features you will need. If you need basic 
>> dictation and will not be dictating exclusively, I'd save my money. Those 
>> are just my thoughts.
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis for 
>>> both speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now be loaded 
>>> directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, Dragon would most 
>>> likely only be beneficial if one needed to use more granulated Command and 
>>> Control rather than just speech dictation recognition. That said, I have no 
>>> idea how well Dragon will be integrated with VoiceOver. 
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 9 Mar 2014, at 11:25, Apple boy  wrote:
 
 Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for 
 something that can be done at no additional charge.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
> On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> Hi there
> I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the 
> dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of benefit 
> more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the one that already 
> comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do they let you have a trial 
> first?
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an 
>> introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: With the 
>> ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what would be the 
>> avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that caught my attention 
>> was the ability to transcribe an single voice audio to script. I have 
>> used Dragon Naturally Speaking on the PC side and have been able to work 
>> it with JAWS without J-Say. Also, has anyone used Dragon with VO running 
>> in the bacground for support?
>> 
>> Thanks for any input on this subject. Oh by the way, if anyone is 
>> interested, the promotion goes until 3/31.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent f

joining mp3 files

[Shannon Dyer]

Hello.

I'm looking for something that can join several small mp3 files into one large 
file. Does anyone know of such a program that is accessible with VO? Any help 
would be greatly appreciated.

Shannon

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Re: Virtual machine help

[Apple boy]

This is just so awesome! I honestly thought you absolutely needed Sharp 
Keys in order to use Windows on mac properly with screen readers. Now I 
see Fusion alone can do this, I will take the easy way out and use the 
remap settings in Fusion. Although I'm coming in late to this thread, 
I'd like to thank those for showing us this awesome tip. It may just 
encourage those who were discouraged previously, myself included, to 
re-visit Fusion again.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 09/03/2014 13:46, Phil Halton wrote:

You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows VM. The 
workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a caps lock or 
insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above the left tab key and 
below the escape key) to caps lock.
This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows program called 
"sharpkeys". .
Another way,  is to remap the grave accent key to the  insert key from within 
fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the grave accent key 
as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or insert, whichever 
you setup.

Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely used, 
and so makes a good candidate for remapping.

I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act as a 
caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock as 
modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to the 
Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need for a 
program like sharpkeys.

There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com, search for 
"sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search results. . It can be a little 
tricky to understand and use the first time, so if you need help and specific directions 
on its use, sing out.

BTW: I find that keeping a full-sized Apple USB keyboard around is a big help 
when using these remap procedures. I just plug it in and it gives me a insert 
key that jaws and NVDA will respond to as their modifier keys. Its really 
indispensable when you start changing the modifier keys and need both a caps 
lock and an insert key temporarily.

For example, using the fusion method, I find I need that keyboard in order to 
have an actual insert key I can press when trying to make the fusion key remap 
as there is no actual insert key on the apple portable keyboards.


On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:


Hi,

I'm having some problems using JAWS in a virtual machine and wondering
if anyone can help.

I'm using JAWS 14 on Windows 7 via VMware.  I usually use an external
keyboard with my MacBook because I'm one handed. I normally  use the
desktop keyboard layout for JAWS but am without an external keyboard
now. I'm wondering how people manage on the Mac keyboard with JAWS.
My understanding is that JAWS should be able to use the caps lock as
the JAWS key but I can't get this to work.  I chose laptop layout from
the keyboard layout in basic settings but whenever I press caps lock
Voiceover just says caps lock on or off and JAWS acts if I'm not
pressing the JAWS key e.g. if I press caps lock and t for title, JAWS
just says t. It's as if the caps lock key isn't being passed through
to Windows. But this is strange because it works properly when I use
NVDA instead of JAWS.

Can anyone help?  Am I missing something?  Any ideas why JAWS/Windows
isn't picking up the caps lock?  Any other way round it?

Thanks,
Catherine

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Re: Capitalone 360 app

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Wow! That is ridiculous! Thank you for the help. I cannot transfer via there 
web site b/c it isn't accessible.
On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Yolanda  wrote:

> Ok, this is how I have found to make it work.  When you have the screen up 
> with the from and to buttons, do the to button first.  The issues with both 
> is as soon as you flick up on the ticker, the screen refreshes and so you 
> have to flick right again to the ticker, and do this until you get to the 
> account you want to transfer to.  Then go back and tap on the from button, 
> and it will behave the same way the to button just did. If you click the from 
> button first it will never work.
> HTH
> Yolanda
> 
> On 3/8/2014 4:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> Hi guys:
>> Can anyone figure out how to use VO and pick and account to transfer money 
>> to and from using the Capitalone360 iOS app? I doubletap the pop up and use 
>> one finger to flick but am having no luck. Even tried double tap and hold on 
>> the second tap with no luck.
>> 
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Re: Notifications Arriving in Big Bunches Every few Days

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Teresa,

I do have this happen if I haven’t turned on my Mac Air in a few days as soon 
as I turn it on I get days old notifications being read to me. Yes, kind of 
strange.
On Mar 6, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> I thought notifications were supposed to go to all the devices you have 
> registered to your AppleID. So at least the part about getting the same 
> notification on your phone and your Mac makes some sense. Not sure about why 
> there are delays though.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/6/14 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Has anyone else had a problem with notifications which causes them to 
>> trigger several at a time? I'll get Facebook and calendar ones on my iPod, 
>> then a few days later, I'll get an unrelated one on my Mac Mini, followed by 
>> several I've already received on my device. Maybe I'm missing some sort of 
>> setting on the mac?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
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Re: Fantasy Baseball on the iPhone?

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Mike,

I am a big fantasy baseball guy. Love it as I find it's the best way to still 
connect to the game that I love. I am happy to report that I have had a 
dialogue going with Yahoo's fantasy app developers and they are hard at work 
improving VoiceOver compatibility with the app. I have been talking with them 
since August, and now participating in a live draft with the app works 
perfectly with VoiceOver. Unfortunately, the in season gaming experience is 
still being worked on with VoiceOVer. What I would suggest is going to Yahoo on 
your Mac or PC going to fantasy baseball where you can find a ton of free 
leagues to play in. Find a league that looks interesting to you as their are a 
billion different scoring systems. The only draft format that works in the app 
is their live standard draft so you would not be able to do an auction style 
draft with VoiceOver on your phone, but I am confident that that will be 
accessible soon. For now you will have to manage the day to day of your team on 
your computer, but I am also confident that Yahoo will have an update to their 
fantasy app fairly soon that will improve the in season following of your team 
while using VoiceOVer. The great thing is this app is universal to all of 
Yahoo's fantasy sports, so moving forward all of the games should work with 
VoiceOVer. Considering ESPN has never gotten back to me, I really have to 
applaud Yahoo and caring about making their app accessible with VoiceOVer.I am 
continuing to work with the development team over there and offer feedback. 
Unfortunately there is no way for us to beta test anything, but considering how 
unusable drafting on Yahoo was during football season the app has come a long 
way. Hope this helps.
On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Hi, Janet,
> 
> First of all, I"d like to thank you for responding so promptly.  It is good 
> to know that there is something out there that will make the experience 
> enjoyable.  I have a couple of questions, now that I know that this could 
> work and actually be fun.
> 
> Since I've never played fantasy baseball, I don't know the rules.  Does the 
> app come with sufficient documentation, or must one find it elsewhere?  And 
> do you know what the name of the app is so that I can be sure to purchase the 
> one that is accessible?  I sure hope that I can find the app in the Austrian 
> App store. :-)
> 
> Best regards from Vienna,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 7,Mar,2014, at 2:48 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> Yahoo's fantasy baseball iOS app is accessible.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Janet
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>>> For years and years, I have lived in Austria, but I grew up in the States 
>>> and have followed the St. Louis Cardinals since I was seven years old.  
>>> Recently, I have been thinking about baseball quite a bit, missing not 
>>> being in the States for the season and wondering if it is possible for a 
>>> blind person to use some sort of app on the iPhone and participate in a 
>>> fantasy baseball league.  If this is not possible on the iPhone, is it 
>>> possible on a Mac?
>>> 
>>> My best to all of you and thanks,
>>> 
>>> Mike
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Re: Still Some Pretty Severe Bugs in Mavericks

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Ricardo,

Thanks. Fortunately the sound outage hasn't happened in a few days after a few 
restarts. I guess until I can do the clean install I just have to restart the 
computer every time it starts to get sluggish. Fortunately it has been a few 
days with no issues except for my Logitech k760 not working but this may be a 
Logitech issue. It's a shame as I loved using the keyboard but since upgrading 
to Mavericks it will only for ten minutes or so before losing connectivity.
On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I haven't seen the sound bug.  I have encountered the Keyboard commander bug 
> though.  I find that turning VO on/off will only fix it for a few minutes.  I 
> have to restart my Mac for it to go away for a longer stretch of time.  This 
> hasn't happened a lot but it's definitely noticeable.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Curious if anyone else is having this issue. All of the sudden you lose all 
>> sounds in Mavericks 10.9.2 meaning when you go to the end box and normally 
>> get your error sound like a bonk letting you know you are at the newest 
>> message instead of the bonk you get VO just repeating the name of the 
>> message instead of the sound. I know this is an error or bug as if I cycle 
>> VO off and back on I get the sounds back and it will work for awhile and 
>> then stop. Also as soon as I lose the sounds I have also noticed that 
>> keyboard commander stops working meaning if I hit command z the key I have 
>> set to bring up mail nothing happens, but if I cycle VO off and on keyboard 
>> commander again starts to work and command z will bring up my mail.
>> 
>> I am also having a severe lag in typing but only when in mail it is really 
>> behind what I am typing and very sluggish. Curious to know if anyone else is 
>> experiencing any of this.
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: mail columns all messed up now

[Brian Fischler]

Ilene if you turn the preview pane off then that first column will tell you 
unread or replied or the status in classic view of mail. You have to close the 
preview pane to get this status read to you as I believe with the preview pane 
open every time you go to a message it is considered as read since the preview 
pane sees it.
On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:16 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> I couldn't get drag and drop to work.  I can't remember how I did it exactly 
> with just the keyboard.  It has been a couple of years.  Let me play with the 
> column order and see if I can figure it out.
> Jim
> 
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> I went to the classic view in mail and, for the life of me, cannot seem to 
>> figure out how to make Mail tell me "Unread" as the first column.  I tried 
>> drag and drop with the mouse and the keyboard and it just don't work for me. 
>>  Sure, I went in to the headers with the VO+shift+back slash and no joy.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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Re: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard

[Phil Halton]

Thanks David, I understand all that, but how exactly do you do the remapping do 
you have to press and insert key at some point? In other words, how do you 
specify the insert key to fusion so it knows to remap to that if there is no 
insert key to press on the keyboard. Do you understand my question? I am 
looking in the keyboard and mouse settings and editing the default profile. 
When adding a remap, in the screen that comes up, I press the great key on the 
combo box, then move to the next combo box and press the insert key on the 
full-size keyboard. I know of no other way to specify we mapping to an insert 
key. Do you know another way? Is this how it's done? Thanks   my IPhone


> On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:23 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You are mapping a windows key to a Mac key, so the insert key comes from 
> Windows, and you map it to a key on your Mac keyboard. You go into fusion 
> settings with command-e, find the keyboard tab, and add the two mappings. The 
> effect is that when in Fusion, your Mac key of choice is turned into an 
> insert key and lost to Mac, but as soon as you go into a Mac app, you get it 
> back again. If Mac had an insert key, you wouldn't need to do the mapping at 
> all!
> 
>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 13:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> david, can you be specific? For example, there is no insert key on a 
>> MacBookAir, or any of the portable keyboards, so how do you map an "insert" 
>> key that doesn't exist?
>> If you read my message carefully, you'll see that the procedure I am using, 
>> or thinking about using. Is this how its done? Specifics would be great, 
>> like which screens I need to get into and what buttons to press if not 
>> self-explanatory. Basically, just the "how to" of it.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:28 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can do the key remapping in Fusion's settings. You remap insert to a 
>>> key of your shoice, then remap that same key to insert, and you have a 
>>> wroking insert key on whatever key you put it on. I found with anything 
>>> that remaps the caps lock key, you lose caps lock completely so can never 
>>> use it when you want it, so that isn't really the best solution.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On 9 Mar 2014, at 02:26, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 What my wife wound up doing was going to pqrs.org and downloading a couple 
 programs from them.  One is keyRemapper I believe and the other was 
 PcKeyboardhack.  There is also a link here that gives info on it though 
 some of the info on configuring everything is slightly different and 
 outdated. The link is as follows.
 
 http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
 
 Take care,
 Shannon Gerdts
 
 -Original Message- From: Phil Halton
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard
 
 Currently I'm using sharpkeys to remap the grave accent key on my MBA to 
 the caps lock key and vice versa, for use as a jaws modifier key in 
 windows7.  I want to eliminate sharp keys and have fusion map grave accent 
 to the insert key. I've done this before but forgot the procedure. I think 
 its:
 1) in fusions keyboard and mouse settings, edit the profile and "add" a 
 key mapping.
 2) this brings up a window where there is a series of checkboxes for 
 certain modifier keys, and a combo box where you can type a key.
 3) in the "from" combo box, I type "`" (grave accent), and in the "to" 
 combo box I press the insert key on an attached full-sized USB keyboard. 
 this puts "extended numpad insert key" in the combo box.
 4) Press okay and make sure key remaps are enabled.
 
 What are others doing to get an insert key (or a caps lock key) passed to 
 windows7 vm's?
 
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Writing Reviews on Amazon

[Brandon Olivares]

Hello,

I wanted to write a review on Amazon, but I noticed that it is inaccessible. It 
says to click the stars to rate the product, but the only text Voiceover reads 
is "Clear." Does anyone know how to get around this?

Brandon

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Re: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard

[David Taylor]

There's a list of keys, so you pick it from the list

On 9 Mar 2014, at 18:02, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Thanks David, I understand all that, but how exactly do you do the remapping 
> do you have to press and insert key at some point? In other words, how do you 
> specify the insert key to fusion so it knows to remap to that if there is no 
> insert key to press on the keyboard. Do you understand my question? I am 
> looking in the keyboard and mouse settings and editing the default profile. 
> When adding a remap, in the screen that comes up, I press the great key on 
> the combo box, then move to the next combo box and press the insert key on 
> the full-size keyboard. I know of no other way to specify we mapping to an 
> insert key. Do you know another way? Is this how it's done? Thanks   my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:23 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You are mapping a windows key to a Mac key, so the insert key comes from 
>> Windows, and you map it to a key on your Mac keyboard. You go into fusion 
>> settings with command-e, find the keyboard tab, and add the two mappings. 
>> The effect is that when in Fusion, your Mac key of choice is turned into an 
>> insert key and lost to Mac, but as soon as you go into a Mac app, you get it 
>> back again. If Mac had an insert key, you wouldn't need to do the mapping at 
>> all!
>> 
>>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 13:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> david, can you be specific? For example, there is no insert key on a 
>>> MacBookAir, or any of the portable keyboards, so how do you map an "insert" 
>>> key that doesn't exist?
>>> If you read my message carefully, you'll see that the procedure I am using, 
>>> or thinking about using. Is this how its done? Specifics would be great, 
>>> like which screens I need to get into and what buttons to press if not 
>>> self-explanatory. Basically, just the "how to" of it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:28 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
 
 You can do the key remapping in Fusion's settings. You remap insert to a 
 key of your shoice, then remap that same key to insert, and you have a 
 wroking insert key on whatever key you put it on. I found with anything 
 that remaps the caps lock key, you lose caps lock completely so can never 
 use it when you want it, so that isn't really the best solution.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
> On 9 Mar 2014, at 02:26, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> What my wife wound up doing was going to pqrs.org and downloading a 
> couple programs from them.  One is keyRemapper I believe and the other 
> was PcKeyboardhack.  There is also a link here that gives info on it 
> though some of the info on configuring everything is slightly different 
> and outdated. The link is as follows.
> 
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
> 
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
> 
> -Original Message- From: Phil Halton
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:47 PM
> To: Macvisionaries
> Subject: Fusion, mapping an insert key on laptop keyboard
> 
> Currently I'm using sharpkeys to remap the grave accent key on my MBA to 
> the caps lock key and vice versa, for use as a jaws modifier key in 
> windows7.  I want to eliminate sharp keys and have fusion map grave 
> accent to the insert key. I've done this before but forgot the procedure. 
> I think its:
> 1) in fusions keyboard and mouse settings, edit the profile and "add" a 
> key mapping.
> 2) this brings up a window where there is a series of checkboxes for 
> certain modifier keys, and a combo box where you can type a key.
> 3) in the "from" combo box, I type "`" (grave accent), and in the "to" 
> combo box I press the insert key on an attached full-sized USB keyboard. 
> this puts "extended numpad insert key" in the combo box.
> 4) Press okay and make sure key remaps are enabled.
> 
> What are others doing to get an insert key (or a caps lock key) passed to 
> windows7 vm's?
> 
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Amadeus question

[Jenine Stanley]

I'm finishing up a project in amadeus Pro in which I have 3 separate 
files/documents and I want to turn them into 1 document by adding them 
together. I thought I could just go to the end of each file and append the next 
document but this is proving more difficult than I thought. Maybe I should do 
it in reverse, adding the earlier files to the beginning of each file as that 
seems to be where they end up regardless of what I do. 

Any thoughts? 
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Re: Writing Reviews on Amazon

[Buddy Brannan]

You just have to select the link for the classic review page or to leave a 
video review. That page will give you the radio buttons with the star ratings.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I wanted to write a review on Amazon, but I noticed that it is inaccessible. 
> It says to click the stars to rate the product, but the only text Voiceover 
> reads is "Clear." Does anyone know how to get around this?
> 
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> 
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Re: Notifications Arriving in Big Bunches Every few Days

[Teresa Cochran]

Right, if you hadn't turned on your computer in a few days, it would be logical 
for notifications to pile up. in my case, though, I leave mine on at all times 
for cloud computing stuff with sETI and other apps, and it still does it.

teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Teresa,
> 
> I do have this happen if I haven’t turned on my Mac Air in a few days as soon 
> as I turn it on I get days old notifications being read to me. Yes, kind of 
> strange.
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> I thought notifications were supposed to go to all the devices you have 
>> registered to your AppleID. So at least the part about getting the same 
>> notification on your phone and your Mac makes some sense. Not sure about why 
>> there are delays though.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 3/6/14 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else had a problem with notifications which causes them to 
>>> trigger several at a time? I'll get Facebook and calendar ones on my iPod, 
>>> then a few days later, I'll get an unrelated one on my Mac Mini, followed 
>>> by several I've already received on my device. Maybe I'm missing some sort 
>>> of setting on the mac?
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> teresa
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
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Re: Writing Reviews on Amazon

[Brandon Olivares]

Thanks, I didn't even notice this option. Found it. :)

Brandon

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On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

> You just have to select the link for the classic review page or to leave a 
> video review. That page will give you the radio buttons with the star ratings.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I wanted to write a review on Amazon, but I noticed that it is inaccessible. 
>> It says to click the stars to rate the product, but the only text Voiceover 
>> reads is "Clear." Does anyone know how to get around this?
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
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Audio Recorder Version 3.2 (322) need basic audio recorder recommendations

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi List,
Is there a basic audio recorder like "Audio Recorder  Version 3.2 (322)" for 
mavericks available?
I just need something to test out my startech usb sound device for in puts and 
outputs.
Basically i want to test continuity for various audio ;ins and outs using that 
usb startech device. :)
May be there is already a basic audio recorder that  i missed, on my mac mini, 
that will work with mavericks?
TIA
Chuck



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youtube volume

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I'm running the latest safari version using ML. In Safari, and in Firefox, the 
Youtube video volume keeps getting moved to 0. It works fine in Google Crome. I 
have to have a sighted person adjust it. Can we adjust it using VO?

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removing carriage returns in textedit

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
This has probably been covered before, but I'm trying to remove the carriage 
returns from a text file in textedit.  I would the search and replace function, 
but but how do I input the CR character?

Thanks.
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Re: removing carriage returns in textedit

[Teresa Cochran]

I'm not sure if this is the best way to do it, but I simply selected the 
carriage return in a document and copied it. Then I could paste it into the 
search field.

Hth,
Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

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> This has probably been covered before, but I'm trying to remove the carriage 
> returns from a text file in textedit.  I would the search and replace 
> function, but but how do I input the CR character?
> 
> Thanks.
> Chris
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Re: Capitalone 360 app

[Yolanda]

Nope is not accessible in windows or osx.

On 3/9/2014 11:31 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Wow! That is ridiculous! Thank you for the help. I cannot transfer via there 
web site b/c it isn't accessible.
On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Yolanda  wrote:


Ok, this is how I have found to make it work.  When you have the screen up with 
the from and to buttons, do the to button first.  The issues with both is as 
soon as you flick up on the ticker, the screen refreshes and so you have to 
flick right again to the ticker, and do this until you get to the account you 
want to transfer to.  Then go back and tap on the from button, and it will 
behave the same way the to button just did. If you click the from button first 
it will never work.
HTH
Yolanda

On 3/8/2014 4:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Hi guys:
Can anyone figure out how to use VO and pick and account to transfer money to 
and from using the Capitalone360 iOS app? I doubletap the pop up and use one 
finger to flick but am having no luck. Even tried double tap and hold on the 
second tap with no luck.


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Re: bad files in mobile documents iCloud?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,
When you are messing with permissions, it is good to have a copy of the 
original somewhere. That's why I wouldn't change the permissions or reset the 
permissions on the original.
Later. Period.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Just thought of a question.  Why would I want first to move that documents 
> folder to the desk top?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Sure worth a try.  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I would agree that it is likely a Apple ID change that is causing this 
>>> issue.  If you changed your Apple ID, then the documents within the Mobile 
>>> Documents folder do not belong to the new Apple ID, thus you do not have 
>>> permission to open them.  I don't believe that this is any way a measure of 
>>> the reliability of Apple's iCloud service.  You might be able to get around 
>>> this by copying the Documents folder from the com~apple~TextEdit folder in 
>>> your Mobile Documents folder onto your Desktop, then doing a Get Info on 
>>> the folder.  Once the Info window is open, navigate to the Sharing & 
>>> Permissions section and then in the Actions pop-up menu, apply the 
>>> permissions to all enclosed items.  You'll likely need to unlock the lock 
>>> first but after this, the permissions of the items in that folder should 
>>> now belong to you.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:51 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 From the recovery partition with command-r during startup, choose, 
 Terminal, from the Utilities window.  Then, type, resetpassword and you 
 will find a button for resetting your permissions.  If you changed your 
 Apple ID, though, this might have something to do with your inability to 
 access some documents.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
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 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> I did change my Apple ID, but, Some documents I can still open and others 
> I cannot.
> 
> How do I reset my permitions in terminal?  CAn this be done from the 
> runtime partition?  I didn't know  that was possible.
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 11:12 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> You can run a permissions check from the recovery system or use, reset 
>> password from Terminal in the Recovery system and reset your own user 
>> permissions.  I don't know why you wouldn't have permission to access 
>> your own documents unless you are somehow using a different Apple ID.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> 
>>> Last night, I posted about not being able to open some documents I had 
>>> saved in iCloud.  John asked me if there was any error message when I 
>>> tried to open them in Text edit, and, I indicated there was not.  So, I 
>>> went in to
>>> ~/Library/MobileDocuments/ComappleTextEdit/Documents 
>>> where my iCloud documents are stored and found i not only could not 
>>> open them from there, I can't get rid of them either.  When I try to 
>>> put them in the trash, I get this:
>>> 
>>> "text Items can't be copied to "Trash" because you don't have 
>>> permission to read them.".  Any ideas what to do next?
>>> 
>>> PS.  I was able to get at the information I needed via other means, 
>>> but, if this is how reliable Apple's iCloud service is with critically 
>>> important documents, I'm really not as sure about it as I once was.

Re: Capitalone 360 app

[Brent Harding]

Last I used it, it worked OK in Windows. The thing with that transfers and 
deposits link is that if you aren't looking for the options underneath it 
after you click the link, one might think it never activated. It remains yet 
to be seen how else Capitalone starts to change what we knew as INGDirect 
for so long.


- Original Message - 
From: "Yolanda" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Capitalone 360 app


Nope is not accessible in windows or osx.

On 3/9/2014 11:31 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
Wow! That is ridiculous! Thank you for the help. I cannot transfer via 
there web site b/c it isn't accessible.

On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Yolanda  wrote:

Ok, this is how I have found to make it work.  When you have the screen 
up with the from and to buttons, do the to button first.  The issues with 
both is as soon as you flick up on the ticker, the screen refreshes and 
so you have to flick right again to the ticker, and do this until you get 
to the account you want to transfer to.  Then go back and tap on the from 
button, and it will behave the same way the to button just did. If you 
click the from button first it will never work.

HTH
Yolanda

On 3/8/2014 4:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Hi guys:
Can anyone figure out how to use VO and pick and account to transfer 
money to and from using the Capitalone360 iOS app? I doubletap the pop 
up and use one finger to flick but am having no luck. Even tried double 
tap and hold on the second tap with no luck.



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Re: Virtual machine help

[Catherine Turner]

Ok, will go the easy route first and try remapping from Fusion.  Have
you any idea why the caps lock works with NVDA?  Seems odd as I
wouldn't have thought what programs are running inside the VM would
make a difference to whether osx passes through a key or not...

Catherine

On 3/9/14, Apple boy  wrote:
> This is just so awesome! I honestly thought you absolutely needed Sharp
> Keys in order to use Windows on mac properly with screen readers. Now I
> see Fusion alone can do this, I will take the easy way out and use the
> remap settings in Fusion. Although I'm coming in late to this thread,
> I'd like to thank those for showing us this awesome tip. It may just
> encourage those who were discouraged previously, myself included, to
> re-visit Fusion again.
>
> Regards Chris
>
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>
> On 09/03/2014 13:46, Phil Halton wrote:
>> You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows
>> VM. The workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a
>> caps lock or insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above the
>> left tab key and below the escape key) to caps lock.
>> This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows program
>> called "sharpkeys". .
>> Another way,  is to remap the grave accent key to the  insert key from
>> within fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the grave
>> accent key as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or
>> insert, whichever you setup.
>>
>> Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely
>> used, and so makes a good candidate for remapping.
>>
>> I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act as
>> a caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock as
>> modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to the
>> Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need for
>> a program like sharpkeys.
>>
>> There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com,
>> search for "sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search results. . It
>> can be a little tricky to understand and use the first time, so if you
>> need help and specific directions on its use, sing out.
>>
>> BTW: I find that keeping a full-sized Apple USB keyboard around is a big
>> help when using these remap procedures. I just plug it in and it gives me
>> a insert key that jaws and NVDA will respond to as their modifier keys.
>> Its really indispensable when you start changing the modifier keys and
>> need both a caps lock and an insert key temporarily.
>>
>> For example, using the fusion method, I find I need that keyboard in order
>> to have an actual insert key I can press when trying to make the fusion
>> key remap as there is no actual insert key on the apple portable
>> keyboards.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Catherine Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm having some problems using JAWS in a virtual machine and wondering
>>> if anyone can help.
>>>
>>> I'm using JAWS 14 on Windows 7 via VMware.  I usually use an external
>>> keyboard with my MacBook because I'm one handed. I normally  use the
>>> desktop keyboard layout for JAWS but am without an external keyboard
>>> now. I'm wondering how people manage on the Mac keyboard with JAWS.
>>> My understanding is that JAWS should be able to use the caps lock as
>>> the JAWS key but I can't get this to work.  I chose laptop layout from
>>> the keyboard layout in basic settings but whenever I press caps lock
>>> Voiceover just says caps lock on or off and JAWS acts if I'm not
>>> pressing the JAWS key e.g. if I press caps lock and t for title, JAWS
>>> just says t. It's as if the caps lock key isn't being passed through
>>> to Windows. But this is strange because it works properly when I use
>>> NVDA instead of JAWS.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help?  Am I missing something?  Any ideas why JAWS/Windows
>>> isn't picking up the caps lock?  Any other way round it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
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Re: mail columns all messed up now

[Ray Foret Jr]

Preview pain is closed.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Ilene if you turn the preview pane off then that first column will tell you 
> unread or replied or the status in classic view of mail. You have to close 
> the preview pane to get this status read to you as I believe with the preview 
> pane open every time you go to a message it is considered as read since the 
> preview pane sees it.
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:16 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
>> I couldn't get drag and drop to work.  I can't remember how I did it exactly 
>> with just the keyboard.  It has been a couple of years.  Let me play with 
>> the column order and see if I can figure it out.
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> 
>>> I went to the classic view in mail and, for the life of me, cannot seem to 
>>> figure out how to make Mail tell me "Unread" as the first column.  I tried 
>>> drag and drop with the mouse and the keyboard and it just don't work for 
>>> me.  Sure, I went in to the headers with the VO+shift+back slash and no joy.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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Re: Audio Recorder Version 3.2 (322) need basic audio recorder recommendations

[Ray Foret Jr]

You might like Linein for that purpose.  Linin is a free app that lets you 
actually listen to your inputs.

To get it, go here:

http://rogueamoeba.com/freebies/

It's free and I don't know how any serious audio user on a Mac can do without 
it.


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On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:30 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

> Hi List,
> Is there a basic audio recorder like "Audio Recorder  Version 3.2 (322)" for 
> mavericks available?
> I just need something to test out my startech usb sound device for in puts 
> and outputs.
> Basically i want to test continuity for various audio ;ins and outs using 
> that usb startech device. :)
> May be there is already a basic audio recorder that  i missed, on my mac 
> mini, that will work with mavericks?
> TIA
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> CHUCK REICHEL
> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
> 954-742-0019
> GUFFAWING :)
> In GOD I Trust
> 
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Re: removing carriage returns in textedit

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,
When you want to insert special characters, often you can use the option key. 
So, try option return to enter the carriage return. Or, you can use option tab 
to enter a .

 

HTH.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the best way to do it, but I simply selected the 
> carriage return in a document and copied it. Then I could paste it into the 
> search field.
> 
> Hth,
> Teresa
> 
> Visualize whirled peas.
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> This has probably been covered before, but I'm trying to remove the carriage 
>> returns from a text file in textedit.  I would the search and replace 
>> function, but but how do I input the CR character?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Chris
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Re: Virtual machine help

[Catherine Turner]

Hi again,

Ok so I tried to remap keys in Fusion and can't get it to work.  I get
to a list of current mappings and press add.  I'm then in a dialog
where it seems I'm supposed to choose the key I want to press and then
what I want it to map to.  There are some checkboxes with all the
modifier keys, I leave them unchecked.  There's then a combobox which
I press and then I get stuck.  It seems like it's listening for
whatever key I press but neither the grave key nor the insert key on
my external keyboard are being picked up by this.  Additionally the
only way I can get out of this is to press command q to quit Fusion.

Is it possible to do these mappings with Voiceover?  Or is it
impossible, in which case I guess that's why people are using Sharp
Keys.  Will look for that podcast then, but it'd be good to hear if
anyone has successfully remapped using Fusion preferences...

Catherine

On 3/9/14, Catherine Turner  wrote:
> Ok, will go the easy route first and try remapping from Fusion.  Have
> you any idea why the caps lock works with NVDA?  Seems odd as I
> wouldn't have thought what programs are running inside the VM would
> make a difference to whether osx passes through a key or not...
>
> Catherine
>
> On 3/9/14, Apple boy  wrote:
>> This is just so awesome! I honestly thought you absolutely needed Sharp
>> Keys in order to use Windows on mac properly with screen readers. Now I
>> see Fusion alone can do this, I will take the easy way out and use the
>> remap settings in Fusion. Although I'm coming in late to this thread,
>> I'd like to thank those for showing us this awesome tip. It may just
>> encourage those who were discouraged previously, myself included, to
>> re-visit Fusion again.
>>
>> Regards Chris
>>
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>
>> On 09/03/2014 13:46, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows
>>> VM. The workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a
>>> caps lock or insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above
>>> the
>>> left tab key and below the escape key) to caps lock.
>>> This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows
>>> program
>>> called "sharpkeys". .
>>> Another way,  is to remap the grave accent key to the  insert key from
>>> within fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the
>>> grave
>>> accent key as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or
>>> insert, whichever you setup.
>>>
>>> Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely
>>> used, and so makes a good candidate for remapping.
>>>
>>> I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act
>>> as
>>> a caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock
>>> as
>>> modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to
>>> the
>>> Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need
>>> for
>>> a program like sharpkeys.
>>>
>>> There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com,
>>> search for "sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search results. . It
>>> can be a little tricky to understand and use the first time, so if you
>>> need help and specific directions on its use, sing out.
>>>
>>> BTW: I find that keeping a full-sized Apple USB keyboard around is a big
>>> help when using these remap procedures. I just plug it in and it gives
>>> me
>>> a insert key that jaws and NVDA will respond to as their modifier keys.
>>> Its really indispensable when you start changing the modifier keys and
>>> need both a caps lock and an insert key temporarily.
>>>
>>> For example, using the fusion method, I find I need that keyboard in
>>> order
>>> to have an actual insert key I can press when trying to make the fusion
>>> key remap as there is no actual insert key on the apple portable
>>> keyboards.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Catherine Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I'm having some problems using JAWS in a virtual machine and wondering
 if anyone can help.

 I'm using JAWS 14 on Windows 7 via VMware.  I usually use an external
 keyboard with my MacBook because I'm one handed. I normally  use the
 desktop keyboard layout for JAWS but am without an external keyboard
 now. I'm wondering how people manage on the Mac keyboard with JAWS.
 My understanding is that JAWS should be able to use the caps lock as
 the JAWS key but I can't get this to work.  I chose laptop layout from
 the keyboard layout in basic settings but whenever I press caps lock
 Voiceover just says caps lock on or off and JAWS acts if I'm not
 pressing the JAWS key e.g. if I press caps lock and t for title, JAWS
 just says t. It's as if the caps lock key isn't being passed through
 to Windows. But this is strange because it works properly when I use
 NVDA instead of JAWS.

 Can anyone help?  Am I missing som

Re: Capitalone 360 app

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I tried it with windows with no luck. It's horrible now.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:

> Last I used it, it worked OK in Windows. The thing with that transfers and 
> deposits link is that if you aren't looking for the options underneath it 
> after you click the link, one might think it never activated. It remains yet 
> to be seen how else Capitalone starts to change what we knew as INGDirect for 
> so long.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Yolanda" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Capitalone 360 app
> 
> 
> Nope is not accessible in windows or osx.
> 
> On 3/9/2014 11:31 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> Wow! That is ridiculous! Thank you for the help. I cannot transfer via there 
>> web site b/c it isn't accessible.
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Yolanda  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, this is how I have found to make it work.  When you have the screen up 
>>> with the from and to buttons, do the to button first.  The issues with both 
>>> is as soon as you flick up on the ticker, the screen refreshes and so you 
>>> have to flick right again to the ticker, and do this until you get to the 
>>> account you want to transfer to.  Then go back and tap on the from button, 
>>> and it will behave the same way the to button just did. If you click the 
>>> from button first it will never work.
>>> HTH
>>> Yolanda
>>> 
>>> On 3/8/2014 4:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 Hi guys:
 Can anyone figure out how to use VO and pick and account to transfer money 
 to and from using the Capitalone360 iOS app? I doubletap the pop up and 
 use one finger to flick but am having no luck. Even tried double tap and 
 hold on the second tap with no luck.
 
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Re: Capitalone 360 app

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I wrote them, but received the basic reply.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Yolanda  wrote:

> Nope is not accessible in windows or osx.
> 
> On 3/9/2014 11:31 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> Wow! That is ridiculous! Thank you for the help. I cannot transfer via there 
>> web site b/c it isn't accessible.
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Yolanda  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, this is how I have found to make it work.  When you have the screen up 
>>> with the from and to buttons, do the to button first.  The issues with both 
>>> is as soon as you flick up on the ticker, the screen refreshes and so you 
>>> have to flick right again to the ticker, and do this until you get to the 
>>> account you want to transfer to.  Then go back and tap on the from button, 
>>> and it will behave the same way the to button just did. If you click the 
>>> from button first it will never work.
>>> HTH
>>> Yolanda
>>> 
>>> On 3/8/2014 4:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 Hi guys:
 Can anyone figure out how to use VO and pick and account to transfer money 
 to and from using the Capitalone360 iOS app? I doubletap the pop up and 
 use one finger to flick but am having no luck. Even tried double tap and 
 hold on the second tap with no luck.
 
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Another Amadeus question

[Apple boy]

How does one change the pitch as well as the speed? I looked at change 
pitch or speed but can't have both it looks like. Using Amadeus Pro.

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Fwd: Instructions for remapping keys using VMware Fusion 4/5

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello.

I have been reading some of the threads re VM Fusion and I sent a set of 
instructions to a friend some time ago but did not send it to the Macvisionary 
list.

So for all of those who seem to have problems with Fusion, I'm sending this to 
the list.

Please note, this will work regardless of what version of Fusion you have as 
the interface is the same.

Hope this is helpful for those who are having problems.

I don't at this time have Windows on my I Mac but am happy to assist if 
necessary.

Message below.

Kawal.

> The following are instructions for remapping Fusion if you are using version 
> 4 or 5.
> 
> 1. Open VMware Fusion 4 or 5.
> 
> 2.  Press Command Comma and you will open preferences.
> 
> 3.  Vo shift fm key left arrow until you get to the top of the window.
> 
> 4.  Interact with the tool bar.  You will find Four choices.  The first 
> choice being in order respectively.  General button, Keyboard and Mouse 
> Button, Default Application Button and Network Button.
> 
> 5. Vo left Arrow to the Keyboard and Mouse Button and press VO space bar.  
> Stop interacting with Toolbar.
> 
> 6.  Vo Right arrow and Voice Over will say Keyboard and Mouse Profile default 
> Button which is a pop up button.
> 
> 7.  There are four tabs listed in order.
> 
> Key Mapping tab, Mouse Shortcuts Tab.  Mac Host Shortcuts tab.  Fusion 
> Shortcut tab.
> 
> 8.  Vo arrow to the second choice Keyboard Mapping tab and press Vo space bar.
> 
> 9.  Move VO right arrow past the other choices listed and you will come to a 
> dialogue box saying:  Map certain key combinations on your Mac Keyboard to 
> keys on your Virtual Machine.  To add a new Mapping, click the '+' button.  
> Double-click a shortcut to edit.
> 
> 10.  Vo right and you will find three boxes which are checked.  When past the 
> last, you will come to a table and in that table you will see what keys are 
> in use and their functions.
> 
> 11. There are two buttons which are not labelled.  First button is the one 
> you need and the second button is the restore defaults button.
> 
> 12.  Press the left button and a dialogue will appear.  There are two boxes.  
> The first box is from and the second box is two.
> 
> 13.  In the first dialogue you will see what is checked and what is 
> unchecked.  So for example,  find the command key and check it.  Once done, 
> vo right to a combo box.  you can type the key you need to use to start the 
> process or you can press VO space and you will be presented with a list of 
> keys.  So for instance, I have  typed J as that key is not listed.
> 
> 14.  You now need to do vo right arrow to get to the To box.
> 
> 15.  This box is the same as the from box.  You will see what is checked and 
> what is not checked.  So arrow to the combo box and either type insert or 
> press bar and your insert choice will be at the top. stop interacting.  Make 
> sure before you stop interacting that the box says insert so vo left and vo 
> right arrow to make sure your selection has been selected or it will not work 
> when you start the virtual machine.  Once done vo right to the OK button and 
> press it.  your mappings will be saved.  You can VO left arrow to the table, 
> interact and you will find your choice added and you will know that it has 
> been saved.
> 
> Now once this is done, you need to start your virtual machine and if you are 
> running jaws, please go to the Jaws setting Centre and make sure the insert 
> mode box is checked or your mapping for that particular key will not work.
> 
> Please save this set of instructions as I will not be sending this to the 
> Macvisionary list.
> 
> Kawal.

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Re: Another Amadeus question

[Ray Foret Jr]

The trick is to go in to the preferences menu and select pitch and speed, you 
will find an individual slider for pitch and  another for speed.  You will 
notice that 50% is the normal setting while 100% is double and 0% is half.  
Next to each slider, there is a text box with which you can much more exactly 
control what the pitch and speed are.  You can choose to lock them, in which 
case they move together or to unlock them so they move seporately.


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Sincerely,
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On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Apple boy  wrote:

> How does one change the pitch as well as the speed? I looked at change pitch 
> or speed but can't have both it looks like. Using Amadeus Pro.
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protools with voiceover?

[Brooke Jostad]

Hi all,
I am trying to figure out to what extent protools is accessible with voiceover. 
Any thoughts and experience would be grately appreciated.
Brooke

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Re: Another Amadeus question

[Apple boy]

Right ok, cheers, will look into this.

Regards Chris

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On 09/03/2014 20:42, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

The trick is to go in to the preferences menu and select pitch and speed, you 
will find an individual slider for pitch and  another for speed.  You will 
notice that 50% is the normal setting while 100% is double and 0% is half.  
Next to each slider, there is a text box with which you can much more exactly 
control what the pitch and speed are.  You can choose to lock them, in which 
case they move together or to unlock them so they move seporately.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Apple boy  wrote:


How does one change the pitch as well as the speed? I looked at change pitch or 
speed but can't have both it looks like. Using Amadeus Pro.
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Unable to rEgister Accounts after upgrading Mavricks

[Deb Lewis]

Hi:
I did the Mavericks upgrade for security a couple weeks ago. Since that time 
I've tried to register information on two new accounts with companies and no 
success either time. In both cases the companies say their sites are working 
properly. 
I've made no changes in my safari settings. I don't get any error on screen. It 
makes the clicking sound like it's going on to the next page but returns to the 
registration page. No fields are incomplete, no erros on the page. The first 
time I really assumed it was me or the site. Now I'm beginning to think it's 
some setting in sAfari. It has only happened since the upgrade. Any ideas on 
what I should be looking at? What might be blocking me from going to secure 
checkout sites. 

Deb

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Re: Unable to rEgister Accounts after upgrading Mavricks

[Ray Foret Jr]

Only one thing comes to mind, and I doubt this possibility.  Ever since Lion 
came out, sometimes, Voice Over fails to react properly to VO+space.  What 
sites are you having issues with?


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Sincerely,
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On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Hi:
> I did the Mavericks upgrade for security a couple weeks ago. Since that time 
> I've tried to register information on two new accounts with companies and no 
> success either time. In both cases the companies say their sites are working 
> properly. 
> I've made no changes in my safari settings. I don't get any error on screen. 
> It makes the clicking sound like it's going on to the next page but returns 
> to the registration page. No fields are incomplete, no erros on the page. The 
> first time I really assumed it was me or the site. Now I'm beginning to think 
> it's some setting in sAfari. It has only happened since the upgrade. Any 
> ideas on what I should be looking at? What might be blocking me from going to 
> secure checkout sites. 
> 
> Deb
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Re: Unable to rEgister Accounts after upgrading Mavricks

[Deb Lewis]

I don't think that's the case here because the page does refresh.

I've seen places where the VO problem with clicking a button link does occur 
but that looks very different from this one.

On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Only one thing comes to mind, and I doubt this possibility.  Ever since Lion 
> came out, sometimes, Voice Over fails to react properly to VO+space.  What 
> sites are you having issues with?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> I did the Mavericks upgrade for security a couple weeks ago. Since that time 
>> I've tried to register information on two new accounts with companies and no 
>> success either time. In both cases the companies say their sites are working 
>> properly. 
>> I've made no changes in my safari settings. I don't get any error on screen. 
>> It makes the clicking sound like it's going on to the next page but returns 
>> to the registration page. No fields are incomplete, no erros on the page. 
>> The first time I really assumed it was me or the site. Now I'm beginning to 
>> think it's some setting in sAfari. It has only happened since the upgrade. 
>> Any ideas on what I should be looking at? What might be blocking me from 
>> going to secure checkout sites. 
>> 
>> Deb
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Re: protools with voiceover?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Brooke,
Pro tools 11.1 with Mavericks works quite well.
If you have the budget go for it! :)
Chuck




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On Mar 9, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Brooke Jostad wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am trying to figure out to what extent protools is accessible with 
> voiceover. Any thoughts and experience would be grately appreciated.
> Brooke
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Booting Mac in Safe MOde

[Deb Lewis]

Hi:
I've been researching my previously reported issue with sites not working 
correctly in sAfari. It's a known issue predating Mavricks. I need to boot into 
safe mode and then just reboot normally. Before I do, I have to change a couple 
of things in safari. NO problem.
Will vO work in safe mode? I don't need to log in, but I need to know when it 
is loaded. Of course I can just wait a long time too.
But I've not done this so any advice will be appreciated.


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Re: Booting Mac in Safe MOde

[Jessica]

no, it won't.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> I've been researching my previously reported issue with sites not working 
> correctly in sAfari. It's a known issue predating Mavricks. I need to boot 
> into safe mode and then just reboot normally. Before I do, I have to change a 
> couple of things in safari. NO problem.
> Will vO work in safe mode? I don't need to log in, but I need to know when it 
> is loaded. Of course I can just wait a long time too.
> But I've not done this so any advice will be appreciated.
> 
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Re: Virtual machine help

[David Taylor]

As I said, I did it, so clearly it is possible. Without launching the thing and 
making a new set I don't have the step by step instructions, but you don't 
bother with any of the edits, you simply arrow down the lists till you get to 
the key you want, and things like insert are in the special category if I 
remember. When I found one thing would not work, I tried another, and I 
remember the edits not working so you can't just press a key, but I explored 
nad found it worked with the lists. When using vo-keys doesn't work I tab and 
vice versa

On 9 Mar 2014, at 20:08, Catherine Turner  
wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> Ok so I tried to remap keys in Fusion and can't get it to work.  I get
> to a list of current mappings and press add.  I'm then in a dialog
> where it seems I'm supposed to choose the key I want to press and then
> what I want it to map to.  There are some checkboxes with all the
> modifier keys, I leave them unchecked.  There's then a combobox which
> I press and then I get stuck.  It seems like it's listening for
> whatever key I press but neither the grave key nor the insert key on
> my external keyboard are being picked up by this.  Additionally the
> only way I can get out of this is to press command q to quit Fusion.
> 
> Is it possible to do these mappings with Voiceover?  Or is it
> impossible, in which case I guess that's why people are using Sharp
> Keys.  Will look for that podcast then, but it'd be good to hear if
> anyone has successfully remapped using Fusion preferences...
> 
> Catherine
> 
> On 3/9/14, Catherine Turner  wrote:
>> Ok, will go the easy route first and try remapping from Fusion.  Have
>> you any idea why the caps lock works with NVDA?  Seems odd as I
>> wouldn't have thought what programs are running inside the VM would
>> make a difference to whether osx passes through a key or not...
>> 
>> Catherine
>> 
>> On 3/9/14, Apple boy  wrote:
>>> This is just so awesome! I honestly thought you absolutely needed Sharp
>>> Keys in order to use Windows on mac properly with screen readers. Now I
>>> see Fusion alone can do this, I will take the easy way out and use the
>>> remap settings in Fusion. Although I'm coming in late to this thread,
>>> I'd like to thank those for showing us this awesome tip. It may just
>>> encourage those who were discouraged previously, myself included, to
>>> re-visit Fusion again.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> 
>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/2014 13:46, Phil Halton wrote:
 You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows
 VM. The workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a
 caps lock or insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above
 the
 left tab key and below the escape key) to caps lock.
 This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows
 program
 called "sharpkeys". .
 Another way,  is to remap the grave accent key to the  insert key from
 within fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the
 grave
 accent key as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or
 insert, whichever you setup.
 
 Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely
 used, and so makes a good candidate for remapping.
 
 I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act
 as
 a caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock
 as
 modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to
 the
 Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need
 for
 a program like sharpkeys.
 
 There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com,
 search for "sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search results. . It
 can be a little tricky to understand and use the first time, so if you
 need help and specific directions on its use, sing out.
 
 BTW: I find that keeping a full-sized Apple USB keyboard around is a big
 help when using these remap procedures. I just plug it in and it gives
 me
 a insert key that jaws and NVDA will respond to as their modifier keys.
 Its really indispensable when you start changing the modifier keys and
 need both a caps lock and an insert key temporarily.
 
 For example, using the fusion method, I find I need that keyboard in
 order
 to have an actual insert key I can press when trying to make the fusion
 key remap as there is no actual insert key on the apple portable
 keyboards.
 
 
 On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Catherine Turner
  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having some problems using JAWS in a virtual machine and wondering
> if anyone can help.
> 
> I'm using JAWS 14 on Windows 7 via VMware.  I usually use an external
> keyboard with my MacBook because I'm one handed. I normally  use th

Re: Virtual machine help

[Phil Halton]

Hello Cathrine, 

I encountered the same problem of getting stuck in the combo box. I found a way 
to do the remapping of  any  key in the "to" combo box to the grave accent key. 
Here's what needs to be done.

1) VO to the first shift check box and park the mouse on it by pressing 
VO+command+ F5. 
2) VO right arrow to the first combo box and press the grave accent key. Don't 
open the combo box with VO Space, just move to it and press the accent key. 
3) Now VO right arrow to the next combo box and here you do want to open the 
box, so press VO Space on it. That'll bring up a list.  arrow down and back up 
to select the insert key in the list.
4) now to get out of that list, you need to turn of VoiceOver with command F5, 
then do a mouse click by pressing down on the mouse pad (careful not to move 
the mouse, just press straight down on the pad). 
5) turn VoiceOver back on and you'll be out of the combo box and you can use VO 
right and left arrows to read your selections and make sure they're right. then 
move to and click the ok button.
6) back in the previous screen , the table should now contain your remap. You 
can uncheck the "enable remappings" checkbox and the remap will remain in the 
table, but won't be active if for any reason you don't want to use it but don't 
want to delete it.

BTW: There's no particular significance to parking the mouse on the shift 
checkbox, you just need to have it parked on some element so when you click the 
mouse after shutting off VO, it'll snap the system out of that weird combbo box 
situation. I successfully followed this procedure twice to test it out and make 
sure it works before sending the message.
Good Luck.




On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> Ok so I tried to remap keys in Fusion and can't get it to work.  I get
> to a list of current mappings and press add.  I'm then in a dialog
> where it seems I'm supposed to choose the key I want to press and then
> what I want it to map to.  There are some checkboxes with all the
> modifier keys, I leave them unchecked.  There's then a combobox which
> I press and then I get stuck.  It seems like it's listening for
> whatever key I press but neither the grave key nor the insert key on
> my external keyboard are being picked up by this.  Additionally the
> only way I can get out of this is to press command q to quit Fusion.
> 
> Is it possible to do these mappings with Voiceover?  Or is it
> impossible, in which case I guess that's why people are using Sharp
> Keys.  Will look for that podcast then, but it'd be good to hear if
> anyone has successfully remapped using Fusion preferences...
> 
> Catherine
> 
> On 3/9/14, Catherine Turner  wrote:
>> Ok, will go the easy route first and try remapping from Fusion.  Have
>> you any idea why the caps lock works with NVDA?  Seems odd as I
>> wouldn't have thought what programs are running inside the VM would
>> make a difference to whether osx passes through a key or not...
>> 
>> Catherine
>> 
>> On 3/9/14, Apple boy  wrote:
>>> This is just so awesome! I honestly thought you absolutely needed Sharp
>>> Keys in order to use Windows on mac properly with screen readers. Now I
>>> see Fusion alone can do this, I will take the easy way out and use the
>>> remap settings in Fusion. Although I'm coming in late to this thread,
>>> I'd like to thank those for showing us this awesome tip. It may just
>>> encourage those who were discouraged previously, myself included, to
>>> re-visit Fusion again.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> 
>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/2014 13:46, Phil Halton wrote:
 You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows
 VM. The workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a
 caps lock or insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above
 the
 left tab key and below the escape key) to caps lock.
 This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows
 program
 called "sharpkeys". .
 Another way,  is to remap the grave accent key to the  insert key from
 within fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the
 grave
 accent key as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or
 insert, whichever you setup.
 
 Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely
 used, and so makes a good candidate for remapping.
 
 I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act
 as
 a caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock
 as
 modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to
 the
 Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need
 for
 a program like sharpkeys.
 
 There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com,
 search for "sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search 

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

[Maurice Mines]

That afternoon, now then reading this message again you 
installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version do 
not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you can make 
many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the product is installed 
the screens leading you through the training work for the most part one just 
has to interact with much of the training materials as they are based in a 
funny type of HTML. But overall I found them to be usable. The other thing you 
might want to know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit interface in order to store 
its text before you transfer it into an application. Although this is very 
confusing to a voiceover user. I would strongly suggest that when using the 
application used to set up whatever profile you're going to use and pick from 
the options in the speech menu. For instance, I prefer to start my dictation 
from a sleep state. This way I can isolate the Dragon functions from the 
voiceover functions. But if one wanted to one could start the microphone 
immediately by any least microphone on selection for instance. And these all in 
very different windows. The best way I know of to keep track of things, if you 
can is get a braille display and certainly keep looking at it at all times 
because the bell displays can assure you where the cursor is the most part in 
Michigan figure voiceovers burial preferences differently. They stated (if not 
tried version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much like version 3 so once 
it is installed a blind person should not have many problems with it.

We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product 
virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I 
mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. Have a 
good rest of the evening.

Sincerely Maurice mines.
student accessibility aid.
Voicemail phone 360-524-0791.
School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few weeks 
> ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was there. I 
> could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. Yes, I enabled 
> it in my security settings.
> 
> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This person 
> has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on speech 
> commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
>> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think 
>> we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most people 
>> it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have verified 
>> written expression disorders and other disabling conditions that require the 
>> use of dragon would be helpful to make certain that we keep those people 
>> than mine. Personally I do use Dragon because of the above-mentioned written 
>> expression disorder. I've only used version three until five have had no 
>> real problems with voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay separate 
>> from my normal computing experience. I know that there is some concern about 
>> being able to use the product by telling it what to do as far as screen 
>> motion I think though that you run the risk of entangling with VoiceOver and 
>> that could lead to some headaches. When I get the chance I will actually use 
>> version four and will see how good or bad it is with VoiceOver. The concerns 
>> that Dragon is inaccessible are not true. I have not had any problems using 
>> it after making a few modifications they are minor. The biggest thing one 
>> needs to remember is one should use the headset and keep voiceover and 
>> Dragon separate as far as
>> 
>> Sincerely, Maurice Mines.
>> Student accessibility aid.
>> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791.
>> Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I 
>>> haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice commands to 
>>> move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and tables, I don't 
>>> see the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does well. That said, Dragon 
>>> learns as you correct it, whereas the mac does not, and Dragon is (from 
>>> reviews I've read) more accurate even out of the box, with no training. If 
>>> you have problems with the keyboard, look at Dragon, but be sure to test if 
>>> for accessibility and the features you will need. If you need basic 
>>> dictation and will not be dictating exclusively, I'd save my money. Those 
>>> are just my thoughts.
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
 Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis for 
 both spe

Re: Booting Mac in Safe MOde

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yes, if you are referring to the special partition you go in to using cmd+r 
after powering on, yes, Voice Over WILL work.  Press the power button and then 
emidiately press cmd+r and wait for about one minute then press cmd+F5.  Voice 
Over will sstart and you can do what you need to do.

Now, if you are talking about the true route level of the drive, my 
understanding is that Voice OVer will not work.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 9, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Hi:
> I've been researching my previously reported issue with sites not working 
> correctly in sAfari. It's a known issue predating Mavricks. I need to boot 
> into safe mode and then just reboot normally. Before I do, I have to change a 
> couple of things in safari. NO problem.
> Will vO work in safe mode? I don't need to log in, but I need to know when it 
> is loaded. Of course I can just wait a long time too.
> But I've not done this so any advice will be appreciated.
> 
> 
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Bootcamp and upgrading OSX

[Janine Smith]

I am considering putting bootcamp on my mac running 10.9.2. I would be 
installing windows 8.1. I was wondering what happens to the bootcamp partition 
when Apple puts out a new operating system for the mac. I have read reports 
that bootcamp doesn't work properly after an upgrade. After the upgrade to 
mavericks some people couldn't boot into windows. Has anyone done an upgrade 
with bootcamp already installed and how did you get on? Hoping you can tell me 
that it won't be a problem.

Janine

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Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

[Alex Hall]

Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate 
anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, or 
anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited version of 
the full program, so in theory I should have full access to all features. 
Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:

>   That afternoon, now then reading this message again you 
> installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version do 
> not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you can 
> make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the product is 
> installed the screens leading you through the training work for the most part 
> one just has to interact with much of the training materials as they are 
> based in a funny type of HTML. But overall I found them to be usable. The 
> other thing you might want to know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit interface 
> in order to store its text before you transfer it into an application. 
> Although this is very confusing to a voiceover user. I would strongly suggest 
> that when using the application used to set up whatever profile you're going 
> to use and pick from the options in the speech menu. For instance, I prefer 
> to start my dictation from a sleep state. This way I can isolate the Dragon 
> functions from the voiceover functions. But if one wanted to one could start 
> the microphone immediately by any least microphone on selection for instance. 
> And these all in very different windows. The best way I know of to keep track 
> of things, if you can is get a braille display and certainly keep looking at 
> it at all times because the bell displays can assure you where the cursor is 
> the most part in Michigan figure voiceovers burial preferences differently. 
> They stated (if not tried version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much 
> like version 3 so once it is installed a blind person should not have many 
> problems with it.
> 
> We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product 
> virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I 
> mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. Have a 
> good rest of the evening.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice mines.
> student accessibility aid.
> Voicemail phone 360-524-0791.
> School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few 
>> weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was 
>> there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. Yes, 
>> I enabled it in my security settings.
>> 
>> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This person 
>> has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on speech 
>> commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true.
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
>> 
>>> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think 
>>> we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most people 
>>> it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have verified 
>>> written expression disorders and other disabling conditions that require 
>>> the use of dragon would be helpful to make certain that we keep those 
>>> people than mine. Personally I do use Dragon because of the above-mentioned 
>>> written expression disorder. I've only used version three until five have 
>>> had no real problems with voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay 
>>> separate from my normal computing experience. I know that there is some 
>>> concern about being able to use the product by telling it what to do as far 
>>> as screen motion I think though that you run the risk of entangling with 
>>> VoiceOver and that could lead to some headaches. When I get the chance I 
>>> will actually use version four and will see how good or bad it is with 
>>> VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is inaccessible are not true. I have 
>>> not had any problems using it after making a few modifications they are 
>>> minor. The biggest thing one needs to remember is one should use the 
>>> headset and keep voiceover and Dragon separate as far as
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, Maurice Mines.
>>> Student accessibility aid.
>>> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791.
>>> Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I 
 haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice commands 
 to move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and tables, I 
 don't see the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does well. That said, 
 Dragon learns as you correct it, whereas the mac 

EBay bidding

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
Does anybody bid on EBay?  I noticed the other night that there is an area 
which is updated.  The time area where it shows how much time is left on the 
bid.  It is so active it makes it difficult to use voiceover on the site.  It 
doesn't always do it, just a few hours before the bidding ends.
I'm trying to find a way to silence just that area of the screen so I can 
navigate the site.  Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?
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Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

[Brandon Olivares]

Did you allow access to the accessibility features of your computer? In 
security settings, select privacy, then Accessibility, and check Dragon 
Dictate. This fixed it for me.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate 
> anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, or 
> anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited version 
> of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to all features. 
> Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
>>  That afternoon, now then reading this message again you 
>> installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version do 
>> not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you can 
>> make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the product is 
>> installed the screens leading you through the training work for the most 
>> part one just has to interact with much of the training materials as they 
>> are based in a funny type of HTML. But overall I found them to be usable. 
>> The other thing you might want to know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit 
>> interface in order to store its text before you transfer it into an 
>> application. Although this is very confusing to a voiceover user. I would 
>> strongly suggest that when using the application used to set up whatever 
>> profile you're going to use and pick from the options in the speech menu. 
>> For instance, I prefer to start my dictation from a sleep state. This way I 
>> can isolate the Dragon functions from the voiceover functions. But if one 
>> wanted to one could start the microphone immediately by any least microphone 
>> on selection for instance. And these all in very different windows. The best 
>> way I know of to keep track of things, if you can is get a braille display 
>> and certainly keep looking at it at all times because the bell displays can 
>> assure you where the cursor is the most part in Michigan figure voiceovers 
>> burial preferences differently. They stated (if not tried version for yet. 
>> But I'm guessing that it is much like version 3 so once it is installed a 
>> blind person should not have many problems with it.
>> 
>> We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product 
>> virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I 
>> mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. Have a 
>> good rest of the evening.
>> 
>> Sincerely Maurice mines.
>> student accessibility aid.
>> Voicemail phone 360-524-0791.
>> School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few 
>>> weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was 
>>> there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. Yes, 
>>> I enabled it in my security settings.
>>> 
>>> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This 
>>> person has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on 
>>> speech commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true.
>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
>>> 
 Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I 
 think we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most 
 people it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have 
 verified written expression disorders and other disabling conditions that 
 require the use of dragon would be helpful to make certain that we keep 
 those people than mine. Personally I do use Dragon because of the 
 above-mentioned written expression disorder. I've only used version three 
 until five have had no real problems with voiceover. But I also use a 
 braille wdisplay separate from my normal computing experience. I know that 
 there is some concern about being able to use the product by telling it 
 what to do as far as screen motion I think though that you run the risk of 
 entangling with VoiceOver and that could lead to some headaches. When I 
 get the chance I will actually use version four and will see how good or 
 bad it is with VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is inaccessible are not 
 true. I have not had any problems using it after making a few 
 modifications they are minor. The biggest thing one needs to remember is 
 one should use the headset and keep voiceover and Dragon separate as far as
 
 Sincerely, Maurice Mines.
 Student accessibility aid.
 Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791.
 Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
 
 On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company ad

Re: Number of messages in a conversation

[Andrew Head]

Great, Would you please be so kind to outline the steps used to accomplish 
this? How did you locate the columns on the track pad and how did you realise 
you could move them, and what was the gesture used? 

On 7 Mar 2014, at 9:49 pm, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> I physically moved them from my track pad.  It took a little doing but once I 
> found the column I was able to move them.
> Jim
> 
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
>> How do you reorder the columns? 
>> 
>> On 3 Mar 2014, at 4:19 am, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe it is possible to re-order the columns.  Maybe you could move the 
>>> message number after the subject or whichever is first.
>>> JG
>>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:40 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 The only solution I know of is to go to Mail preferences, check the 
 "classic layout" checkbox, then find the header of the message, such as 
 the subject. Then vO-down, and you will only hear that column spoken 
 first. I haven't been able to do this in standard view.
 
 Hth,
 Teresa
 
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 Facebook
 
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> Hi all,
> when I move through my list of mail messages, for some reason, only 
> today, sometimes I hear how many messages are in a conversation before 
> the from and subject. Anyone know why this is and how to fix it? It is 
> very annoying as I get a lot of mail and want to be able to go through it 
> quickly and hearing how many messages in a conversation before getting to 
> the from and subject is very annoying. 
> Kind regards and thanks in advance for any help. 
> Andrew 
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Re: Audio Recorder Version 3.2 (322) need basic audio recorder recommendations

[Chris Blouch]

I'm still on OSX 10.8. Does Audio Recorder die on Mavericks? That would 
be too bad as I like its simple UI and that it usually just works. I 
guess there's always making audio recordings with Quicktime.


CB

On 3/9/14 2:30 PM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi List,
Is there a basic audio recorder like "Audio Recorder  Version 3.2 
(322)" for mavericks available?
I just need something to test out my startech usb sound device for in 
puts and outputs.
Basically i want to test continuity for various audio ;ins and outs 
using that usb startech device. :)
May be there is already a basic audio recorder that  i missed, on my 
mac mini, that will work with mavericks?

TIA
Chuck



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Re: Notifications Arriving in Big Bunches Every few Days

[Chris Blouch]

Wonder if SETI, as a high CPU app, is interfering with notifications?

CB

On 3/9/14 2:14 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Right, if you hadn't turned on your computer in a few days, it would 
be logical for notifications to pile up. in my case, though, I leave 
mine on at all times for cloud computing stuff with sETI and other 
apps, and it still does it.


teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Brian Fischler > wrote:



Hey Teresa,

I do have this happen if I haven’t turned on my Mac Air in a few days 
as soon as I turn it on I get days old notifications being read to 
me. Yes, kind of strange.
On Mar 6, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Chris Blouch > wrote:


I thought notifications were supposed to go to all the devices you 
have registered to your AppleID. So at least the part about getting 
the same notification on your phone and your Mac makes some sense. 
Not sure about why there are delays though.


CB

On 3/6/14 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, all,

Has anyone else had a problem with notifications which causes them 
to trigger several at a time? I'll get Facebook and calendar ones 
on my iPod, then a few days later, I'll get an unrelated one on my 
Mac Mini, followed by several I've already received on my device. 
Maybe I'm missing some sort of setting on the mac?


thanks,
teresa

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Re: deleting multiple files in one go

[Chris Blouch]

Select all and then command-delete, or are you saying the AVIs are mixed 
in with their MP3 versions?


CB

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Hi guys,
I have a large directory of AVI files that I converted into mp3, but 
for some reason the AVI files are still there. How can I delete them 
all at once? thanks.

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Re: joining mp3 files

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If you don't mind hacking around with unix, the Sox package will do this 
just fine.


CB

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Hello.

I'm looking for something that can join several small mp3 files into one large 
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Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

[Alex Hall]

Yes I did.

A question to Dragon users: can you navigate? In Windows, for instance, you can 
say "press button" or "move up four" or "press tab". Can Dragon on the mac do 
this kind of thing, or is it restricted to dictation only?
On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Did you allow access to the accessibility features of your computer? In 
> security settings, select privacy, then Accessibility, and check Dragon 
> Dictate. This fixed it for me.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate 
>> anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, or 
>> anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited version 
>> of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to all features. 
>> Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now.
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
>> 
>>> That afternoon, now then reading this message again you 
>>> installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version 
>>> do not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you 
>>> can make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the product 
>>> is installed the screens leading you through the training work for the most 
>>> part one just has to interact with much of the training materials as they 
>>> are based in a funny type of HTML. But overall I found them to be usable. 
>>> The other thing you might want to know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit 
>>> interface in order to store its text before you transfer it into an 
>>> application. Although this is very confusing to a voiceover user. I would 
>>> strongly suggest that when using the application used to set up whatever 
>>> profile you're going to use and pick from the options in the speech menu. 
>>> For instance, I prefer to start my dictation from a sleep state. This way I 
>>> can isolate the Dragon functions from the voiceover functions. But if one 
>>> wanted to one could start the microphone immediately by any least 
>>> microphone on selection for instance. And these all in very different 
>>> windows. The best way I know of to keep track of things, if you can is get 
>>> a braille display and certainly keep looking at it at all times because the 
>>> bell displays can assure you where the cursor is the most part in Michigan 
>>> figure voiceovers burial preferences differently. They stated (if not tried 
>>> version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much like version 3 so once it 
>>> is installed a blind person should not have many problems with it.
>>> 
>>> We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product 
>>> virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I 
>>> mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. Have 
>>> a good rest of the evening.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely Maurice mines.
>>> student accessibility aid.
>>> Voicemail phone 360-524-0791.
>>> School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.
>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few 
 weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was 
 there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. 
 Yes, I enabled it in my security settings.
 
 As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This 
 person has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on 
 speech commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true.
 On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
 
> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I 
> think we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. 
> Most people it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually 
> have verified written expression disorders and other disabling conditions 
> that require the use of dragon would be helpful to make certain that we 
> keep those people than mine. Personally I do use Dragon because of the 
> above-mentioned written expression disorder. I've only used version three 
> until five have had no real problems with voiceover. But I also use a 
> braille wdisplay separate from my normal computing experience. I know 
> that there is some concern about being able to use the product by telling 
> it what to do as far as screen motion I think though that you run the 
> risk of entangling with VoiceOver and that could lead to some headaches. 
> When I get the chance I will actually use version four and will see how 
> good or bad it is with VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is 
> inaccessible are not true. I have not had any problems using it after 
> making a few modifications they are minor. The biggest thing one needs to 
> remember i

Re: internet keeps disconnecting

[Chris Blouch]

The two shouldn't have any impact on each other as they are different 
radio frequencies and different chip sets inside the computer running 
them. I have a Mac Mini on wifi with a bluetooth keyboard and it works 
fine. I did have trouble getting dropped from my WiFi one time when I 
'upgraded' to a new wifi router. After much fiddling I threw in the 
towel and got an Apple Airport Extreme and all my dropped wifi problems 
went away. My old router was the old 802.11g and with time machine 
backups it was getting a bit slow. The 802.11N has made that work 
reasonably well.


All that said, does it drop on any other wifi network?

CB

On 3/9/14 3:50 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

yes im using wifi, when i am browsing the youtube for sometime, it keeps 
disconnecting my internet but i am still connected to my router, the only thing 
to do is to turn off the wifi on on my computer then turn it on again. but now 
it seems like the problem was when i am using my wireless keyboard, i dont know 
why. every time i use my wireless keyboard, keeps my internet disconnected. 
cani make my internet be the first priorities before the bluetooth?



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Wire Headset With Mic On Mac Air Or Other Solutions For Dragon?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello There, 

This is a separate thread, but a follow up to the Dragon question vs. the 
native dictation features on the mac I have a wired headset with a microphone, 
which was bundled with Dragon Naturally Speaking for my PC. Since the Mac Air 
has a single headphone jack that is duel in nature, is there a adaptor that I 
could purchase either to plug into the jack or USB port to split the headphone 
and mic input? I also have a bluetooth Voyager Pro Plus, which I mainly use for 
when I am traveling. Does anyone know if this BT ear piece will work with the 
Air and Dragon? I look forward to hearing list members thoughts about this. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
Eileen 

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Calendar Problems Worsen With Latest Security update For Moutain Lion?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello Folks, 

I am not sure if if I need to report this to accessibility at Apple. I use to 
be able to input my appointments in the native calendar app in Mountain Lion. I 
am able to select the date and open the inspector to begin the process of 
adding an appointment. Here is where I begin to have problems. I tab over to 
the "event details" and try to VO-spacebar on it, which use to open the pop 
down list. Now, I have to tab into the area and once there even using the right 
arrow will not perform the same behavior before the security update. This was 
using the right arrow key to move from the heading to the edit field like in 
the first choice of "location." I am also having difficulty setting the "from' 
and "to" time parameters, with alerts and having problems getting back to the 
"done" button to add the appointment to the calendar. Have others had this 
problem also? What kind of steps can one suggest that may straighten this out, 
so I can use the calendar again? Please advise, as I have also seen some 
changes on my iPhone 4 with the new iOS 7.0.6 update. On the phone, I can't 
seem to find the list tab to view my appointments. 

Thanks in advance. 

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Re: Notifications Arriving in Big Bunches Every few Days

[Teresa Cochran]

That could very well be. I limited its CPU usage, but don't remember off-hand 
what percentage. 25% seems to stick in my head.

Teresa

“Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. Feynman

On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Wonder if SETI, as a high CPU app, is interfering with notifications?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/9/14 2:14 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Right, if you hadn't turned on your computer in a few days, it would be 
>> logical for notifications to pile up. in my case, though, I leave mine on at 
>> all times for cloud computing stuff with sETI and other apps, and it still 
>> does it.
>> 
>> teresa
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Teresa,
>>> 
>>> I do have this happen if I haven’t turned on my Mac Air in a few days as 
>>> soon as I turn it on I get days old notifications being read to me. Yes, 
>>> kind of strange.
>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 I thought notifications were supposed to go to all the devices you have 
 registered to your AppleID. So at least the part about getting the same 
 notification on your phone and your Mac makes some sense. Not sure about 
 why there are delays though.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/6/14 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Hi, all,
> 
> Has anyone else had a problem with notifications which causes them to 
> trigger several at a time? I'll get Facebook and calendar ones on my 
> iPod, then a few days later, I'll get an unrelated one on my Mac Mini, 
> followed by several I've already received on my device. Maybe I'm missing 
> some sort of setting on the mac?
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> teresa
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What Does the Voiceover cursor Look Like as Shown in the Visuals?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hik, all,

I sometimes have trouble with cursor tracking when my sighted husband is 
looking at the screen and using the trackpad. I have the mouse pointer 
following the VO cursor. I didn't have the visual VO cursor enabled, and he 
couldn't find the mouse pointer at times, even when I routed it. I've turned on 
the VO cursor visual now. what should I tell him to look for? Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

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