Re: Radium iPhone radio app is free today (November 24, 2013)

[Matt Dierckens]

Xm and Sirius Canada work fine, I wonder if it's just the u s that's having 
problems? Also where do I configure settings if I have the mac and iOS app?
Thanks

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> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Mary Otten  
> Well, since serious XM doesn't want to let their parties access their 
> service, it would be really nice if they would make their app accessible. But 
> the real question is regarding radium, are you running Maverick's on your Mac?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Serious XM recently published a notice that using any third party apps is a 
>> violation of their user agreement. And, I cannot get Radium to work with it 
>> at all so I suspect they’re enforcing it. I love this app especially on the 
>> mac, and highly recommend it, but not for accessing serious/XM.
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, 
>>> Radium, the iPhone version of the accessible radio player app for the Mac, 
>>> is free today.  This app requires iOS 7, and will support streaming 
>>> subscription radio services.. Owners of the Mac Radium 3 app can sync their 
>>> station selections between iPhone and Mac apps through the cloud. radium 
>>> can be used on the iPad in 2x mode. 
>>> 
>>> • Radium ~ Perfect Internet Radio (Free today, normally $1.99) by CatPig 
>>> Studios, Inc. 
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/radium-perfect-internet-radio/id684034823?mt=8
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You can also read the AppleVis entry: 
>>> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/music/radium-perfect-internet-radio 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> 
>>> Esther
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Re: Radium iPhone radio app is free today (November 24, 2013)

[Jessica D]

yes, just type, 

Sent from my iPhone sports into the search field.
> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. I guess it's good to have one more option in case 
> one craps out. Will have to see if I could get live sports events in Radium 
> as I can never find them in Tune In, but Pro Sports is a great app for anyone 
> looking for an easy way to find NFL games
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, radium is different from TuneIn. If you are a subscriber to services 
>> like XM, you can get that on radium, and not on TuneIn. On the other hand, 
>> TuneIn has a bigger database. Then again, I found a bunch of stuff on radium 
>> that I can't get on TuneIn anymore. It's Russian music, so probably not too 
>> interesting to to many people. But it works for me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the heads up on this. Only thing is it seems to be the same 
>>> thing as Tune In Radio with less options. I know the sleep timer doesn't 
>>> work on Tune In, but I never use it. Curious if Radium is any different 
>>> than Tune In, or just another option. Thanks
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
 
 I have it & love it!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christine,
> 
> The Radium iPhone app does not support subscription services to other iOS 
> radio subscription apps.  Under the "Settings" button selecting 
> "Subscriptions" brings up options for SiriusXM Radio USA, SiriusXM Radio 
> Canada, Live365, JazzRadio.com, DI Radio + SKY Radio, and CalmRadio.  I 
> haven't tried these options myself.  The iPhone app is the developer's 
> first iOS effort, and is only about 2 months old.  The accessibility 
> fixes for VoiceOver only came in the version 1.0.1 release earlier this 
> month.  This is the version 1.1 release of a few days ago.  I think with 
> more VoiceOver use and feedback, the user experience with this app can be 
> made quite good, so I'm hoping more people will pick it up and try to use 
> it while it's free.  I only tried this out myself earlier today.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
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Re: Radium iPhone radio app is free today (November 24, 2013)

[Jessica D]

it is within radium, and is called more options.

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> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> This is probably a stupid question, but where is the settings for this app? I 
> don't even see it in the native settings app. Thanks.
> 
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>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the explanation. I guess it's good to have one more option in 
>> case one craps out. Will have to see if I could get live sports events in 
>> Radium as I can never find them in Tune In, but Pro Sports is a great app 
>> for anyone looking for an easy way to find NFL games
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, radium is different from TuneIn. If you are a subscriber to services 
>>> like XM, you can get that on radium, and not on TuneIn. On the other hand, 
>>> TuneIn has a bigger database. Then again, I found a bunch of stuff on 
>>> radium that I can't get on TuneIn anymore. It's Russian music, so probably 
>>> not too interesting to to many people. But it works for me.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Thanks for the heads up on this. Only thing is it seems to be the same 
 thing as Tune In Radio with less options. I know the sleep timer doesn't 
 work on Tune In, but I never use it. Curious if Radium is any different 
 than Tune In, or just another option. Thanks
> On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
> I have it & love it!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Christine,
>> 
>> The Radium iPhone app does not support subscription services to other 
>> iOS radio subscription apps.  Under the "Settings" button selecting 
>> "Subscriptions" brings up options for SiriusXM Radio USA, SiriusXM Radio 
>> Canada, Live365, JazzRadio.com, DI Radio + SKY Radio, and CalmRadio.  I 
>> haven't tried these options myself.  The iPhone app is the developer's 
>> first iOS effort, and is only about 2 months old.  The accessibility 
>> fixes for VoiceOver only came in the version 1.0.1 release earlier this 
>> month.  This is the version 1.1 release of a few days ago.  I think with 
>> more VoiceOver use and feedback, the user experience with this app can 
>> be made quite good, so I'm hoping more people will pick it up and try to 
>> use it while it's free.  I only tried this out myself earlier today.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther 
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Re: transferring documents through i tunes

[Jessica D]

where do these spoken tracks appear, i accidently sent things to itunes as 
spoken tracks but now cannot find them to delete them.

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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Aare you trying to add the text of something to ITunes as a spoken track?
> 
> 1.  Enter the document.
> 
> 2.  Select all text by pressing cmd+a.
> 
> 3.  Now, in the edit menu, select send to ITunes as a spoken track.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Still no luck.  I select everything correctly but the add button is not 
>> available and I hear a sound from the computer meaning it is dimmed.  Just 
>> to be sure I checked in pages on my i phone and nothing is there.
>> Any ideas?  As I said before, I was able to do it once but can't seem to do 
>> it again.
>> Jean
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Re: book sample link on audible doesn't work

[Jessica D]

yes, it can be downloaded free at adobe.com, just perform a double click with 
vo shift space twice quickly on the words, download flash player for mac or 
whatever it says.

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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:14 AM, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
> Can you get flash player for mac? I’ll do that that way I can use the default 
> browser and know I can play any video. :)
>> On 25 Nov 2013, at 3:39 pm, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It uses flash player. I don't have flash player installed on Safari, so I 
>> can't listen to them on Safari. So if I want to listen to the samples I use 
>> Google Chrome, which has flash built in. I haven't tried it for a few weeks, 
>> so not sure if it's currently working, but it might be worth you trying 
>> that. Otherwise, the mobile site works really well.
>> 
>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Head  wrote:
>> 
>> well, let’s hope apple or audible work someting out. 
>>> On 24 Nov 2013, at 2:39 pm, Aser Tolentino  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It worked for a while, but now I can't get it to work either. You can get 
>>> samples to play if you go to the mobile version of the website.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2013, at 19:27, Andrew Head  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I can’t activate the link to listen to audio book samples on audible. Just 
 wondering if anyone has also had this problem and if there is a way around 
 it or if there is some sort of update to audible that will fix this?
 Kind regards,
 Andrew 
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Another scan possibility.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Hello,

A couple years back I looked a little at a document organization package 
recommended by Tidbits.com (actually I think they sponser Tidbis tooo). It 
includes a copy of ABBY Fine Reader as a OCR engine and indexes documents as 
they are imported into the database. I never took the time to read the Take 
Control of and could not fully appreciate the process. At that time the only 
version with OCR was the professional priced around $150 I think now it is 
included in more of their products. I doubt I could get another 30 day demo. 
But perhahsp we should see if this is a solution that wourks for us. 

Tidbits has also had great comments about some of the sheet feeder scanners 
that can process 12 pages a minute. Imagine going through all that Snaiml mail 
in almost the same time as a sighted person!


Best wishes,

Jonathan



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Re: Radium iPhone radio app is free today (November 24, 2013)

[Les Kriegler]

XM US is working fine here.

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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:02 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Xm and Sirius Canada work fine, I wonder if it's just the u s that's having 
> problems? Also where do I configure settings if I have the mac and iOS app?
> Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Mary Otten > 
>> Well, since serious XM doesn't want to let their parties access their 
>> service, it would be really nice if they would make their app accessible. 
>> But the real question is regarding radium, are you running Maverick's on 
>> your Mac?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Serious XM recently published a notice that using any third party apps is a 
>>> violation of their user agreement. And, I cannot get Radium to work with it 
>>> at all so I suspect they’re enforcing it. I love this app especially on the 
>>> mac, and highly recommend it, but not for accessing serious/XM.
>>> 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Esther  wrote:
 
 Hi All, 
 Radium, the iPhone version of the accessible radio player app for the Mac, 
 is free today.  This app requires iOS 7, and will support streaming 
 subscription radio services.. Owners of the Mac Radium 3 app can sync 
 their station selections between iPhone and Mac apps through the cloud. 
 radium can be used on the iPad in 2x mode. 
 
 • Radium ~ Perfect Internet Radio (Free today, normally $1.99) by CatPig 
 Studios, Inc. 
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/radium-perfect-internet-radio/id684034823?mt=8
  
 
 You can also read the AppleVis entry: 
 http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/music/radium-perfect-internet-radio 
 
 Cheers, 
 
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RE: Downcast qustion

[Amy Ruell]

Hello,
I, too, have Downcast on both the Mac and iPhone. I have some learning to do
on the Mac regarding navigation, but love the syncronicity and the greater
space afforded me on the Mac.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Parsons
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Subject: Re: Downcast qustion

I have Downcast for IOS and Downcast for Mac. Downcast for Mac was well
worth the cost to me, but everyone will have a different opinion, as I think
you can see from this thread.

Downcast for Mac is fully accessible and easy to use. The settings are all
easy to configure, and the syncing works really well. The syncing and the
playlist features are why I switched to Downcast from iTunes and Podcasts. I
know Apple has now included smart playlists for podcasts in iTunes, though I
haven't had a chance to use these. Not sure how syncing between iTunes and
Podcasts is working now.

A couple of people have reported problems with Downcast becoming busy and
unusable. I haven't had this problem. I suspect it has something to do with
very large numbers of subscribed feeds. I'm subscribed to around 45, and it
works fine for me. I believe Robert Carter has over 60, and perhaps he can
let you know if it works well for him.

Given you already have Downcast for iOS, when you ask is it worth it I
suppose you mean does it offer you anything the iOS version doesn't. People
have already mentioned storage space, and that's a good point. I also find
it easier and quicker to manage podcasts and podcast settings on the Mac. I
am subscribed to a lot of feeds, and I don't always want to listen to every
episode from every podcast. I can move through the episodes quickly on the
Mac, marking as played or deleting those I'm not interested in. I also have
my Mac hooked up to better speakers, so if I want to play the podcast out
loud I prefer to use my Mac rather than my iPhone or iPad, as their speakers
while good, are sometimes just not as loud as I'd like.

So ultimately only you know whether you want to access your Downcast
podcasts on your Mac and whether that's worth $10 to you.

Cheers,
Nic

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Re: transferring documents through i tunes

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Check the recently added playlist to find their title.  they may be labelled as 
the date and time during which you created the spoken track. 
Best,

IF



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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
> where do these spoken tracks appear, i accidently sent things to itunes as 
> spoken tracks but now cannot find them to delete them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Aare you trying to add the text of something to ITunes as a spoken track?
>> 
>> 1.  Enter the document.
>> 
>> 2.  Select all text by pressing cmd+a.
>> 
>> 3.  Now, in the edit menu, select send to ITunes as a spoken track.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Still no luck.  I select everything correctly but the add button is not 
>>> available and I hear a sound from the computer meaning it is dimmed.  Just 
>>> to be sure I checked in pages on my i phone and nothing is there.
>>> Any ideas?  As I said before, I was able to do it once but can't seem to do 
>>> it again.
>>> Jean
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Re: Radium iPhone radio app is free today (November 24, 2013)

[Jessica D]

Same here.

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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:58 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> XM US is working fine here.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:02 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>> Xm and Sirius Canada work fine, I wonder if it's just the u s that's having 
>> problems? Also where do I configure settings if I have the mac and iOS app?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Mary Otten >> 
>>> Well, since serious XM doesn't want to let their parties access their 
>>> service, it would be really nice if they would make their app accessible. 
>>> But the real question is regarding radium, are you running Maverick's on 
>>> your Mac?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
 
 Serious XM recently published a notice that using any third party apps is 
 a violation of their user agreement. And, I cannot get Radium to work with 
 it at all so I suspect they’re enforcing it. I love this app especially on 
 the mac, and highly recommend it, but not for accessing serious/XM.
 
> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> Radium, the iPhone version of the accessible radio player app for the 
> Mac, is free today.  This app requires iOS 7, and will support streaming 
> subscription radio services.. Owners of the Mac Radium 3 app can sync 
> their station selections between iPhone and Mac apps through the cloud. 
> radium can be used on the iPad in 2x mode. 
> 
> • Radium ~ Perfect Internet Radio (Free today, normally $1.99) by CatPig 
> Studios, Inc. 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/radium-perfect-internet-radio/id684034823?mt=8
>  
> 
> You can also read the AppleVis entry: 
> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/music/radium-perfect-internet-radio 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Esther
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Re: transferring documents through i tunes

[Jessica D]

i just looked at the recently added playlist on my iphone 5 but it was just 
music.
Where e

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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
> 
> Check the recently added playlist to find their title.  they may be labelled 
> as the date and time during which you created the spoken track. 
> Best,
> 
> IF
> 
> 
> 
> Mistakes sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>> where do these spoken tracks appear, i accidently sent things to itunes as 
>> spoken tracks but now cannot find them to delete them.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aare you trying to add the text of something to ITunes as a spoken track?
>>> 
>>> 1.  Enter the document.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Select all text by pressing cmd+a.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Now, in the edit menu, select send to ITunes as a spoken track.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, jean parker  wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Still no luck.  I select everything correctly but the add button is not 
 available and I hear a sound from the computer meaning it is dimmed.  Just 
 to be sure I checked in pages on my i phone and nothing is there.
 Any ideas?  As I said before, I was able to do it once but can't seem to 
 do it again.
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Re: Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac and iOS on Sale today (November 24, 2013)

[Jessica D]

can i get download links for both versions please?

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> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Esther  wrote:
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> Alex, Paprika is much better than Pepperplate, and the devs rewrote this for 
> VoiceOver accessibility in an extremely responsive fashion.  There's a big 
> difference between an app that just works with VoiceOver, and one where they 
> rewrote the interface in response to user requests. Also, this app does much 
> more  -- I know you don't need to use this for meal scheduling or nutrition, 
> or to automatically have your shopping lists with you, but it all syncs 
> together so that you do.  I originally recommended this to someone of the 
> viphone list who wanted to import his own recipes, and who didn't like any of 
> the alternatives.
> 
> You can read my archived posts:
> • Describing the Mac app on the MacVisionaries list
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg80606.html
> • Describing why I like the  iOS app on the Mac-Access List
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg14524.html
> • Describing Recipe importing of the ViPhone list
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg33281.html
> 
> The only thing is that I'm late posting this.  This app is terrific and 
> rarely goes on sale. I have both the Mac and iOS versions.  If in doubt, get 
> the iPhone version, but I really like having both, because importing is 
> easier on the Mac.
> 
> I think this offer may expire soon, though.
> 
> Esther 
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Re: transferring documents through i tunes

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

a spoken track playlist should have automatically been created in iTunes.

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On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Jessica D  wrote:

> where do these spoken tracks appear, i accidently sent things to itunes as 
> spoken tracks but now cannot find them to delete them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Aare you trying to add the text of something to ITunes as a spoken track?
>> 
>> 1.  Enter the document.
>> 
>> 2.  Select all text by pressing cmd+a.
>> 
>> 3.  Now, in the edit menu, select send to ITunes as a spoken track.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Still no luck.  I select everything correctly but the add button is not 
>>> available and I hear a sound from the computer meaning it is dimmed.  Just 
>>> to be sure I checked in pages on my i phone and nothing is there.
>>> Any ideas?  As I said before, I was able to do it once but can't seem to do 
>>> it again.
>>> Jean
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Re: transferring documents through i tunes

[Jessica D]

what should this playlist be called?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> a spoken track playlist should have automatically been created in iTunes.
> 
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>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>> where do these spoken tracks appear, i accidently sent things to itunes as 
>> spoken tracks but now cannot find them to delete them.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aare you trying to add the text of something to ITunes as a spoken track?
>>> 
>>> 1.  Enter the document.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Select all text by pressing cmd+a.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Now, in the edit menu, select send to ITunes as a spoken track.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, jean parker  wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Still no luck.  I select everything correctly but the add button is not 
 available and I hear a sound from the computer meaning it is dimmed.  Just 
 to be sure I checked in pages on my i phone and nothing is there.
 Any ideas?  As I said before, I was able to do it once but can't seem to 
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Random Walk Simulationin Numbers

[Kevin Shaw]

Hi friends,

I'm running a random walk simulation in Numbers with a number of cells 
generating random numbers and these cells in turn being referenced across 
multiple sheets. In other words, Rows 5 and 7 of sheets 1, 2 and 3 are 
generating the random value and every other cell that refers to these cells 
fluctuate, including cells in other sheets.

Now in my last sheet, I have 3 values that are the bottom line calculation in 
my simulation. 

I want to create another sheet that generates this simulation 100 times and 
then crete a scatter plot to show a Gaussian distribution so I can generate a 
reasonable idea of where the average distribution points are for the 3 values.

So, the easy way to do this is to create a cell that equals the final result. 
This is the first simulation. What I need is to create 99 more of those, but 
each having a different result. Can anyone recommend how to do this?

Kevin

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transferring word tiles through i tunes

[jean parker]

Hello All:
No I am not transferring them as spoken files.
I want to read them in pages on my I phone.  When I go to the options to import 
files it only gives i tunes and some other web service I never heard of as the 
options for importing these files.  
As I explained, I was able to do it once through i tunes but have not been able 
to replicate it again.  I don't know why.
Everything is selected correctly in i tunes but the ad button is dimmed.
Jean

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Re: transferring documents through i tunes

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Spoken track or something like that.

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On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Jessica D  wrote:

> what should this playlist be called?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> a spoken track playlist should have automatically been created in iTunes.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Jessica D  wrote:
>>> 
>>> where do these spoken tracks appear, i accidently sent things to itunes as 
>>> spoken tracks but now cannot find them to delete them.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
 Aare you trying to add the text of something to ITunes as a spoken track?
 
 1.  Enter the document.
 
 2.  Select all text by pressing cmd+a.
 
 3.  Now, in the edit menu, select send to ITunes as a spoken track.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
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> Hi:
> Still no luck.  I select everything correctly but the add button is not 
> available and I hear a sound from the computer meaning it is dimmed.  
> Just to be sure I checked in pages on my i phone and nothing is there.
> Any ideas?  As I said before, I was able to do it once but can't seem to 
> do it again.
> Jean
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Re: Random Walk Simulationin Numbers

[Phil Halton]

If numbers can be used for this level of activity, then I might have to 
reconsider my thinking about numbers accessibility.

On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:

> Hi friends,
> 
> I'm running a random walk simulation in Numbers with a number of cells 
> generating random numbers and these cells in turn being referenced across 
> multiple sheets. In other words, Rows 5 and 7 of sheets 1, 2 and 3 are 
> generating the random value and every other cell that refers to these cells 
> fluctuate, including cells in other sheets.
> 
> Now in my last sheet, I have 3 values that are the bottom line calculation in 
> my simulation. 
> 
> I want to create another sheet that generates this simulation 100 times and 
> then crete a scatter plot to show a Gaussian distribution so I can generate a 
> reasonable idea of where the average distribution points are for the 3 values.
> 
> So, the easy way to do this is to create a cell that equals the final result. 
> This is the first simulation. What I need is to create 99 more of those, but 
> each having a different result. Can anyone recommend how to do this?
> 
> Kevin
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Re: Latest release of Vuescan reprots "busy" all the time

[Phil Halton]

Ann, what version are you running, and have you encountered the instability 
problem with the most recent V9.3.22? Actually, V9.4 just came outlast night 
and might be a fix, but I haven't looked at it.

On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Phil,
> 
> VueScan produces clearer images than ABBYY FineReader so when FineReader 
> receives the images for OCR, it does a better job.
> 
> Here, we’ve had the lifetime license for VueScan for over ten years, so $79 
> has been well worth it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 25 Nov 2013, at 03:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I installed the previous  version (9.2.25) and everything works as 
>> advertised. I was able to setup vuescan, do a scan, and have it open in 
>> ABBYY FR Express.
>> StillAm I correct in saying that the sole advantage of using VuesScan is the 
>> ability to scan multiple pages and then OCR the file all at once? I'm not 
>> sure its worth $40 since I don't scan books anymore, just the occasional 
>> letter or bill.
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VLC and Airplay question

[David Taylor]

Hi,

I'm having a wierd issue with the latest version of VLC running in Mavericks 
where it simply won't play when I select Airplay. It will play to all other 
devices. The other thing is that in its Airplay setting, I don't see any way of 
configuring which of my airplay devices it uses. Can anybody give any tips on 
this please?

Thanks
Dave

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Re: Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac and iOS on Sale today (November 24, 2013)

[Esther]

Hi Jessica and Others,

Here are the download links for Paprika Recipe Manager for the iPhone (and 
iPod Touch), iPad, and Mac.  All theses apps are on sale in celebration for 
(U.S.) Thanksgiving, so they should be good through at least Thanksgiving 
Day, and maybe through next weekend.  I briefly panicked when an attempt to 
check the dates of the sale by Googling their blog turned up an old entry 
from last year, when the sale started just around Thanksgiving and lasted 
through the Sunday.  Had me thinking that these deals would expire last 
night!.  I've corrected the link to the Mac App Store  given in my first 
post (and under the AppleVis pp Deal listings) so that this will work 
internationally. Also note that the latest version of the iOS apps run on 
iOS 7.  If you are still running iOS 6 (or earlier), you can purchase the 
iOS apps using iTunes on your computer, then when you try to download the 
app on your iOS device, you'll get the latest version that is compatible 
with your operating system version, and it will be accessible since this 
app has been supporting VoiceOver users for a while.

• Paprika Recipe Manager for iPhone ($2.99, usually lists for $4.99) by 
Hindsight Labs, LLC
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8
• Paprika Recipe Manager for iPad ($2.99, usually lists for $4.99) by 
Hindsight Labs, LLC
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id392408028?mt=8
• Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac ($9.99, usually lists for $19.99) by 
Hindsight Labs, LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id451907568?mt=12

There's also an Android app that is on sale, but that only supports 
English, while the iOS apps support English, Bokmål, Norwegian, Chinese, 
Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, 
Japanese, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish, as well as supporting a 
host of international recipe sites.

For more information, check Paprika's Support web page at:
https://paprikaapp.zendesk.com/home

I'll also give direct links to the detailed user guides you can find at 
that support web page:
• Paprika iPhone user guide:
http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/iphone/
• Paprika iPad user guide
http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/ipad/
• Paprika Mac user guide:
http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/mac/

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:41:08 AM UTC-10, Jessica D wrote:
>
> can i get download links for both versions please? 
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Esther wrote: 
> > 
> > Alex, Paprika is much better than Pepperplate, and the devs rewrote this 
> for VoiceOver accessibility in an extremely responsive fashion.  There's a 
> big difference between an app that just works with VoiceOver, and one where 
> they rewrote the interface in response to user requests. Also, this app 
> does much more  -- I know you don't need to use this for meal scheduling or 
> nutrition, or to automatically have your shopping lists with you, but it 
> all syncs together so that you do.  I originally recommended this to 
> someone of the viphone list who wanted to import his own recipes, and who 
> didn't like any of the alternatives. 
> > 
> > You can read my archived posts: 
> > • Describing the Mac app on the MacVisionaries list 
> > 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg80606.html
>  
> > • Describing why I like the  iOS app on the Mac-Access List 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg14524.html
> >  
> > • Describing Recipe importing of the ViPhone list 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg33281.html
> >  
> > 
> > The only thing is that I'm late posting this.  This app is terrific and 
> rarely goes on sale. I have both the Mac and iOS versions.  If in doubt, 
> get the iPhone version, but I really like having both, because importing is 
> easier on the Mac. 
> > 
> > I think this offer may expire soon, though. 
> > 
> > Esther 
> > 
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Re: Latest release of Vuescan reprots "busy" all the time

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Phil.

The latest build should fix the problem, has just got a message from the 
developer. The build is from today.

Best regards Annie.
Den 25 Nov 2013 kl. 16:13 skrev Phil Halton :

> Ann, what version are you running, and have you encountered the instability 
> problem with the most recent V9.3.22? Actually, V9.4 just came outlast night 
> and might be a fix, but I haven't looked at it.
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Phil,
>> 
>> VueScan produces clearer images than ABBYY FineReader so when FineReader 
>> receives the images for OCR, it does a better job.
>> 
>> Here, we’ve had the lifetime license for VueScan for over ten years, so $79 
>> has been well worth it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Nov 2013, at 03:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I installed the previous  version (9.2.25) and everything works as 
>>> advertised. I was able to setup vuescan, do a scan, and have it open in 
>>> ABBYY FR Express.
>>> StillAm I correct in saying that the sole advantage of using VuesScan is 
>>> the ability to scan multiple pages and then OCR the file all at once? I'm 
>>> not sure its worth $40 since I don't scan books anymore, just the 
>>> occasional letter or bill.
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Re: reading the subject, date and from fields in arecieved email

[Alex Hall]

Honestly, I'm not sure. I rarely have occasion to examine headers. In looking 
at the full headers on your message, though, I see a bunch of received dates.
On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:41 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> I don't think that header information includes sent date though, does it, 
> Alex? I usually just get that information from the message list, and use the 
> header information for the sent to address.
> 
> On 25 Jan 2013, at 11:32 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> To read headers, I hit enter on a message. To the left of the message text is 
> a headers group, inside of which is a text field with headers in it. You can 
> toggle showing basic or full headers with, I believe, cmd-shift-h. If that is 
> not it, the option is in the menus.
> On Nov 24, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Just wondering when you get a new message, how do you read the from, subject 
>> and date headers using apple mail? I tried shift tabbing, but that didn’t 
>> work.
>> any help is appreciated,
>> andrew
>> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Not impressed with VMWare…

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They basically 
told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done anyway) and 
said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I asked if there was 
anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was told that if I wanted 
phone support I could buy a single incident support request for $30… That's 
half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion program! So now, even though I 
haven't even started using Fusion due to their own website/program not working, 
I'm waiting for an email from an engineer which will, I strongly suspect based 
on my experience so far, be some form letter that may or may not answer my 
question. I could see this if I'd been using the program successfully and just 
had questions, but I can't use it at all and just want to get started. This is 
ridiculous, and I really wish there was another product I could use instead. 
Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be the only accessible choice, so let's just 
hope I can get this answered relatively soon.


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Vuescan 9.4.02 released and fixes the recent problems with Vuescan and Voiceover

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

I’ve been talking to the developer of Vuescan since last night, and he has 
fixed the Vuescan problems. Both the 32bit and 64bit versions of his latest 
release are now working with Voiceover as they used to. You can download them 
from;
http://www.hamrick.com
Please note that the “download’ link will normally download 32bit version. If 
you want to get the 64bit version, scroll down the page to find a table where 
you can find the 64bit version. It takes a bit of effort to find it since the 
table has versions for linux and windows too so be careful. I hope I’m not 
going to offend anyone by saying that the mac version must have .dmg extension 
at the end of the file name. You also want to see the number 64 in the name of 
the download file for the 64bit version. The file name is vuex6494.dmg for 
64bit version and vuex3294.dmg for 32bit version.  Once you copy the 
application file to the application folder, and launch the application, you 
should hear Voiceover announce vuescan 64 9.4.02. That’s the most recent 
version that fixes our woes.

I’m delighted that Vuescan works again! The developer is a sympathetic guy. He 
knows how important Vuescan is to so many of us.

Best wishes

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Shortcut key for adding e-mail sender to contacts

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I thought that once in a message, one could add the sender to contacts with 
command+shift+y. But this doesn’t seem to work any more. Is there a different 
shortcut key now that would accomplish the same task?

Thanks 

Andrew

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Re: Not impressed with VMWare…

[Ray Foret Jr]

Just one of the many reasons I flatly refuse ever ever ever ever ever to 
install windows on my Mac.  IF I want to use windows, I’ll let Best Buy fix my 
Acer windows lap top.

I bought my Mac to use it as a Mac, not clunky crashy unstable windows.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
> just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They basically 
> told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done anyway) and 
> said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I asked if there was 
> anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was told that if I wanted 
> phone support I could buy a single incident support request for $30… That's 
> half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion program! So now, even though I 
> haven't even started using Fusion due to their own website/program not 
> working, I'm waiting for an email from an engineer which will, I strongly 
> suspect based on my experience so far, be some form letter that may or may 
> not answer my question. I could see this if I'd been using the program 
> successfully and just had questions, but I can't use it at all and just want 
> to get started. This is ridiculous, and I really wish there was another 
> product I could use instead. Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be the only 
> accessible choice, so let's just hope I can get this answered relatively soon.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Shortcut key for adding e-mail sender to contacts

[Ray Foret Jr]

No.  That short cut is gone.  If we want it back, we’ll have to add it manually.


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On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
> I thought that once in a message, one could add the sender to contacts with 
> command+shift+y. But this doesn’t seem to work any more. Is there a different 
> shortcut key now that would accomplish the same task?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Another scan possibility.

[John Panarese]

  How do you get a copy of this?


Take Care

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On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> A couple years back I looked a little at a document organization package 
> recommended by Tidbits.com (actually I think they sponser Tidbis tooo). It 
> includes a copy of ABBY Fine Reader as a OCR engine and indexes documents as 
> they are imported into the database. I never took the time to read the Take 
> Control of and could not fully appreciate the process. At that time the only 
> version with OCR was the professional priced around $150 I think now it is 
> included in more of their products. I doubt I could get another 30 day demo. 
> But perhahsp we should see if this is a solution that wourks for us. 
> 
> Tidbits has also had great comments about some of the sheet feeder scanners 
> that can process 12 pages a minute. Imagine going through all that Snaiml 
> mail in almost the same time as a sighted person!
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
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Re: Not impressed with VMWare…

[Teresa Cochran]

I started using Fusion to experiment with various Linux distributions. About 
three months after I purchased it, there was an upgrade, and I couldn’t swing 
the full price of the upgrade, which was the same as what I paid, so I gave it 
up. as for Windows, I’ll probably go the Bootcamp route if I really want it, 
though I haven’t so far.

Teresa

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
dark to read."--Groucho Marx

On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Just one of the many reasons I flatly refuse ever ever ever ever ever to 
> install windows on my Mac.  IF I want to use windows, I’ll let Best Buy fix 
> my Acer windows lap top.
> 
> I bought my Mac to use it as a Mac, not clunky crashy unstable windows.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
>> just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They 
>> basically told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done 
>> anyway) and said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I asked 
>> if there was anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was told 
>> that if I wanted phone support I could buy a single incident support request 
>> for $30… That's half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion program! So 
>> now, even though I haven't even started using Fusion due to their own 
>> website/program not working, I'm waiting for an email from an engineer which 
>> will, I strongly suspect based on my experience so far, be some form letter 
>> that may or may not answer my question. I could see this if I'd been using 
>> the program successfully and just had questions, but I can't use it at all 
>> and just want to get started. This is ridiculous, and I really wish there 
>> was another product I could use instead. Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be 
>> the only accessible choice, so let's just hope I can get this answered 
>> relatively soon.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Not impressed with VMWare…

[Joseph Norton]

Hi Alex:

Can you tell us what happens when you try to run the program?  Did it not 
install, or did you have problems downloading?  Or, some other problem?

Won't hurt to run it by us.  Maybe one of us has experienced something like the 
problem you're having.
Just a thought.



On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
> just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They basically 
> told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done anyway) and 
> said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I asked if there was 
> anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was told that if I wanted 
> phone support I could buy a single incident support request for $30… That's 
> half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion program! So now, even though I 
> haven't even started using Fusion due to their own website/program not 
> working, I'm waiting for an email from an engineer which will, I strongly 
> suspect based on my experience so far, be some form letter that may or may 
> not answer my question. I could see this if I'd been using the program 
> successfully and just had questions, but I can't use it at all and just want 
> to get started. This is ridiculous, and I really wish there was another 
> product I could use instead. Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be the only 
> accessible choice, so let's just hope I can get this answered relatively soon.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Absolutely cannot download Fusion from vmware.com

[Joseph Norton]

Sorry Alex for my previous message.  I'm looking at things newest first.

If you want, I might be able to walk you through the Download process over the 
phone.

If you want to do this, reply off-list and we'll go further.

Thanks!


On Nov 24, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have Fusion on my Mini, and I just purchased it so can finally unlock it. 
> However, the main reason I bought it is to use a license on my Macbook, so I 
> can demo both Mac and Windows to my clients. I went to vmware.com on the 
> Macbook, signed in, went to download the file, and was told to accept an 
> agreement… that's when it all went downhill. I can see and check the agree 
> checkbox, but the accept button stays dimmed. I also see a link to "accept 
> EULA", which seems to do nothing at all. I've used vo-space, enter, space, 
> vo-shift-space, and even a physical mouse click or two, but nothing works, no 
> matter what. Can anyone tell me what is going on and how I can download the 
> file? Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Another scan possibility.

[Jessica D]

Did you get my email?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:05 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   How do you get a copy of this?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> A couple years back I looked a little at a document organization package 
>> recommended by Tidbits.com (actually I think they sponser Tidbis tooo). It 
>> includes a copy of ABBY Fine Reader as a OCR engine and indexes documents as 
>> they are imported into the database. I never took the time to read the Take 
>> Control of and could not fully appreciate the process. At that time the only 
>> version with OCR was the professional priced around $150 I think now it is 
>> included in more of their products. I doubt I could get another 30 day demo. 
>> But perhahsp we should see if this is a solution that wourks for us. 
>> 
>> Tidbits has also had great comments about some of the sheet feeder scanners 
>> that can process 12 pages a minute. Imagine going through all that Snaiml 
>> mail in almost the same time as a sighted person!
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Shortcut key for adding e-mail sender to contacts

[Chris Moore]

And how would we do that?  
Chris
On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> No.  That short cut is gone.  If we want it back, we’ll have to add it 
> manually.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> I thought that once in a message, one could add the sender to contacts with 
>> command+shift+y. But this doesn’t seem to work any more. Is there a 
>> different shortcut key now that would accomplish the same task?
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Not impressed with VMWare…

[Chris H]

Unfortunately Vmware are one of those companies despite doing excellent 
products are only seeking out more money from the customer. I submitted 
a problem not me but a friend had, and they basically told me the same; 
I could pay for per incident support for $49 or so. So I backed out very 
quickly. So yes I will support their products but that's as far as it 
will go for me.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 25/11/2013 17:26, Alex Hall wrote:

Hi all,
Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They basically 
told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done anyway) and 
said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I asked if there was 
anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was told that if I wanted 
phone support I could buy a single incident support request for $30… That's 
half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion program! So now, even though I 
haven't even started using Fusion due to their own website/program not working, 
I'm waiting for an email from an engineer which will, I strongly suspect based 
on my experience so far, be some form letter that may or may not answer my 
question. I could see this if I'd been using the program successfully and just 
had questions, but I can't use it at all and just want to get started. This is 
ridiculous, and I really wish there was another product I could

use instead. Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be the only accessible choice, so 
let's just hope I can get this answered relatively soon.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com





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Re: Not impressed with VMWare…

[Alex Hall]

I have a person calling me back at 1500 today, so we'll see how that goes.

On my Mini, I have a version of Fusion that is who knows how old, that says my 
key is invalid when I try to paste it in (no, there are no extra spaces). I 
can't check which version it is, or check for updates, because all those 
options are dimmed. On my Macbook, I can't download Fusion at all - the EULA 
agreement seems to not work correctly and the "accept" button is never enabled. 
I've even had a sighted person try to get past that, and nothing works. My Mini 
is using Bootcamp, but my Macbook is for demonstrations for clients and has 
very limited space (64gb). I figured that Fusion would be better on it so i 
would not run out of space or anything and so I could quickly switch from one 
to the other to compare them during demos. Since Fusion comes with three 
licenses per purchase, I figured I may as well put one on my personal Mini so I 
could play audio games (the only time I use Windows) without having to reboot.
On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Unfortunately Vmware are one of those companies despite doing excellent 
> products are only seeking out more money from the customer. I submitted a 
> problem not me but a friend had, and they basically told me the same; I could 
> pay for per incident support for $49 or so. So I backed out very quickly. So 
> yes I will support their products but that's as far as it will go for me.
> 
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
> 
> On 25/11/2013 17:26, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
>> just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They 
>> basically told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done 
>> anyway) and said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I asked 
>> if there was anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was told 
>> that if I wanted phone support I could buy a single incident support request 
>> for $30… That's half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion program! So 
>> now, even though I haven't even started using Fusion due to their own 
>> website/program not working, I'm waiting for an email from an engineer which 
>> will, I strongly suspect based on my experience so far, be some form letter 
>> that may or may not answer my question. I could see this if I'd been using 
>> the program successfully and just had questions, but I can't use it at all 
>> and just want to get started. This is ridiculous, and I really wish there 
>> was another product I could
> use instead. Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be the only accessible choice, so 
> let's just hope I can get this answered relatively soon.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Could Use some Automation Advice

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, I’d be very grateful for any advice from people with much more 
knowledge of Automater and Apple Script than I have.
I have what I think is quite a simple task but I’m not sure about the best tool 
or method for achieving it.
What I want to do is set up a key in VO so that when in the edit field for 
typing a tweet in Night Owl/YoruFukurou, I can press a single key that sends a 
specific string, then presses Return to send the tweet. I want to do this to 
send a hashtag I use regularly so the string is always the same.
The idea is that I would write my tweet, then include this hashtag at the end 
by pressing this single key.
I’m not sure if using Apple Script or Automater is the best way of getting this 
done, and what the process would be for either. I know how to use the commander 
to assign either a workflow or a script to a key, but actually getting the task 
automated is where I’d appreciate the advice.
If anyone can provide some advice and examples, I’d really appreciate it, 
thanks.
Jonathan Mosen
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Boot Camp partition

[Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.]

Hi all,

I have an instance of Boot Camp running on my Mac. it is only 50 GB in size, 
and I am running out of space.

I am looking to run music production software in windows, cakewalk, and keep 
talking scripts with jaws. These are huge resource hogs, and I will need boot 
Camp for them.

Will I be able to repartition my drive including the 50 gigabytes I already 
allocated to my existing instance of Boot Camp?

I would like to give windows 100 GB or so, but would hate to lose the 50 GB 
already used up.

I will scrap my current instance of Boot Camp for a brand-new one.

Thank you for all your help,

Antonio

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Re: Could Use some Automation Advice

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

How about setting up a dictionary shortcut?  Like for example, many people use 
this feature on there iPhone when texting.  You would write I don’t know., and 
it would expand out to I don’t know.  You could use 2 symbols like gl and would 
expand to your hash tag.  I know its not very elegant, but, I think it would 
work for you.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I’d be very grateful for any advice from people with much more 
> knowledge of Automater and Apple Script than I have.
> I have what I think is quite a simple task but I’m not sure about the best 
> tool or method for achieving it.
> What I want to do is set up a key in VO so that when in the edit field for 
> typing a tweet in Night Owl/YoruFukurou, I can press a single key that sends 
> a specific string, then presses Return to send the tweet. I want to do this 
> to send a hashtag I use regularly so the string is always the same.
> The idea is that I would write my tweet, then include this hashtag at the end 
> by pressing this single key.
> I’m not sure if using Apple Script or Automater is the best way of getting 
> this done, and what the process would be for either. I know how to use the 
> commander to assign either a workflow or a script to a key, but actually 
> getting the task automated is where I’d appreciate the advice.
> If anyone can provide some advice and examples, I’d really appreciate it, 
> thanks.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
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Re: Not impressed with VMWare…

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Everyone.

I can only say that VMWare have been very good to me so far.

Although I have the latest Fusion, I have not put Windows on my I Mac.

Last year, I accidentally bought 10 copies of Fusion 5!  At that time my basket 
said 1.  So once I realised that I had bought 10 copies, I was frantic.  
Imagine, over 900 pounds.

So I went on to their website and acquired a local number for the UK.

I rang them at 10 in the evening and thought they would be closed.  But they 
were not.

So I got through to someone and explained everything and they were only too 
happy to help.

Once I rang off, they sent me an e-mail and said they would make it a high 
priority request due to the amount of money and because as they pointed out, 
other customers had had the same problem.

After that, they e-mailed me a few more times to tell me what was happening and 
eventually after a few days passed, I called again to ask if there was any 
progress.

Soon after that, some one rang me up specially to tell me that my request was 
being dealt with and after six business days, my money was returned to me.

So I have been very careful when I purchased Fusion 6.
On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:39, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I have a person calling me back at 1500 today, so we'll see how that goes.
> 
> On my Mini, I have a version of Fusion that is who knows how old, that says 
> my key is invalid when I try to paste it in (no, there are no extra spaces). 
> I can't check which version it is, or check for updates, because all those 
> options are dimmed. On my Macbook, I can't download Fusion at all - the EULA 
> agreement seems to not work correctly and the "accept" button is never 
> enabled. I've even had a sighted person try to get past that, and nothing 
> works. My Mini is using Bootcamp, but my Macbook is for demonstrations for 
> clients and has very limited space (64gb). I figured that Fusion would be 
> better on it so i would not run out of space or anything and so I could 
> quickly switch from one to the other to compare them during demos. Since 
> Fusion comes with three licenses per purchase, I figured I may as well put 
> one on my personal Mini so I could play audio games (the only time I use 
> Windows) without having to reboot.
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately Vmware are one of those companies despite doing excellent 
>> products are only seeking out more money from the customer. I submitted a 
>> problem not me but a friend had, and they basically told me the same; I 
>> could pay for per incident support for $49 or so. So I backed out very 
>> quickly. So yes I will support their products but that's as far as it will 
>> go for me.
>> 
>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>> christopher...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 25/11/2013 17:26, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Someone yesterday told me to call VMWare since I cannot use Fusion, which I 
>>> just bought, on either of my machines. I did, and I'm shocked. They 
>>> basically told me how to submit a request online (which I could have done 
>>> anyway) and said I'd have to wait until someone could email me back. I 
>>> asked if there was anyone who could just answer me over the phone, and was 
>>> told that if I wanted phone support I could buy a single incident support 
>>> request for $30… That's half of what I just paid for the entire Fusion 
>>> program! So now, even though I haven't even started using Fusion due to 
>>> their own website/program not working, I'm waiting for an email from an 
>>> engineer which will, I strongly suspect based on my experience so far, be 
>>> some form letter that may or may not answer my question. I could see this 
>>> if I'd been using the program successfully and just had questions, but I 
>>> can't use it at all and just want to get started. This is ridiculous, and I 
>>> really wish there was another product I could
>> use instead. Unfortunately, Fusion seems to be the only accessible choice, 
>> so let's just hope I can get this answered relatively soon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Vuescan 9.4.02 released and fixes the recent problems with Vuescan and Voiceover

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Andrew.

Well done. I am happy that we can update vuescan again.

Best regards Annie.
Den 25 Nov 2013 kl. 18:40 skrev Andrew Lamanche :

> Listers,
> 
> I’ve been talking to the developer of Vuescan since last night, and he has 
> fixed the Vuescan problems. Both the 32bit and 64bit versions of his latest 
> release are now working with Voiceover as they used to. You can download them 
> from;
> http://www.hamrick.com
> Please note that the “download’ link will normally download 32bit version. If 
> you want to get the 64bit version, scroll down the page to find a table where 
> you can find the 64bit version. It takes a bit of effort to find it since the 
> table has versions for linux and windows too so be careful. I hope I’m not 
> going to offend anyone by saying that the mac version must have .dmg 
> extension at the end of the file name. You also want to see the number 64 in 
> the name of the download file for the 64bit version. The file name is 
> vuex6494.dmg for 64bit version and vuex3294.dmg for 32bit version.  Once you 
> copy the application file to the application folder, and launch the 
> application, you should hear Voiceover announce vuescan 64 9.4.02. That’s the 
> most recent version that fixes our woes.
> 
> I’m delighted that Vuescan works again! The developer is a sympathetic guy. 
> He knows how important Vuescan is to so many of us.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
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Ripping own dVDs using Handbrake

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I wonder whether someone would be so kind as to write off list to me with some 
tips regarding ripping one of my own dVDs using Handbrake. I’ve tried to 
convert a dvd of mine so that I could import it into iTunes but I’ve failed 
miserably. I have chosen a source, i.e. my dvd and I’ve pressed the start 
button, and I’ve got a file on my disk. But it plays with a stutter, so it’s no 
good really. There must be more to it than just pressing “open” and “start”. 

I’d appreciate any tips.

Best wishes

Andrew

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Will Safari be continuing support for Mountain Lion for a while yet?

[Daniel McGee]

Hi all, I know 10.9 Mavericks is out and that It has the latest version of 
Safari which is 7 on the new OS. However, I am still using Mountain Lion and am 
going to stick with this previous version for a while yet. I have my reasons 
for this.

What I'd like to know is that after a newer OS update comes out, will the 
version of Safari for Mountain Lion which currently as of this writing stands 
at 6.1 be the last version or as I am hoping does Apple continue moving Safari 
forward on older OS's for a while before dropping them.

I have my reasons for not liking the new changes in the area of Voiceover and 
am thinking next time I like an update to Safari then I'll just stick with that 
version. Yes I'd rather use a version that is fully functional and working with 
Voiceover rather than features added which I'm sure are bugs but at times I 
think I'd rather sacrifice usability to security. If you know what I mean in 
the ways of updates.

I hope people understand this and respect where I am coming from.

Looking forward to learning the answer.

p.s.
Would be great to know as well for those who linger on older Mac operating 
systems do you still recieve updates and if so what kind of updates are they?

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Re: Shortcut key for adding e-mail sender to contacts

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

1.  You need to know the exact name of the menu item.  I believe in this case 
that it is “Add Sender to Contacts”.
2.  Go into System Preferences and choose Keyboard.
3.  In the Categories Table, choose Application Shortcuts, down near the bottom 
of the table.
4.  Stop Interacting with the table and navigate to the Add button then press 
it.
5.  Change the application to Mail from the Applications pop-up menu.
6.  Enter “Add Sender to Contacts” into the Menu Item field.
7.  Enter the key combination you want.  Be careful to not choose one already 
used by the application or system.  * chose cmd-option-shift-c
8.  Press OK.

That should do it.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:

> And how would we do that?  
> Chris
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> No.  That short cut is gone.  If we want it back, we’ll have to add it 
>> manually.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Listers,
>>> 
>>> I thought that once in a message, one could add the sender to contacts with 
>>> command+shift+y. But this doesn’t seem to work any more. Is there a 
>>> different shortcut key now that would accomplish the same task?
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: Will Safari be continuing support for Mountain Lion for a while yet?

[eric oyen]

well, if Apple keeps true to form, it won't be long before they update beyond 
where we can go. I made the mistake of upgrading to Safari 6.1  here on my Lion 
system and now if behaves oddly. When browsing through web pages, the Headers 
don't get read properly (half of them don't show up in the web item rotor). 
Surfing to some pages that are heavy with Java now cause voiceover to reset 
when attempting to load items in the web item rotor. Other issues include text 
being read 3 or more times, web links in google search also get read outside of 
their domain (such as in detailed results, etc.).

My system is just old enough not to support Mt. Lion and, from what it sounds 
like, Mavericks will be even more problematic. I have yet to receive any 
meaningful response on this from apple (all I get is the typical form letter 
response). What does it take to get someone at apple to realize they really 
screwed up?

anyway, thats my rant.

-eric

On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

> Hi all, I know 10.9 Mavericks is out and that It has the latest version of 
> Safari which is 7 on the new OS. However, I am still using Mountain Lion and 
> am going to stick with this previous version for a while yet. I have my 
> reasons for this.
> 
> What I'd like to know is that after a newer OS update comes out, will the 
> version of Safari for Mountain Lion which currently as of this writing stands 
> at 6.1 be the last version or as I am hoping does Apple continue moving 
> Safari forward on older OS's for a while before dropping them.
> 
> I have my reasons for not liking the new changes in the area of Voiceover and 
> am thinking next time I like an update to Safari then I'll just stick with 
> that version. Yes I'd rather use a version that is fully functional and 
> working with Voiceover rather than features added which I'm sure are bugs but 
> at times I think I'd rather sacrifice usability to security. If you know what 
> I mean in the ways of updates.
> 
> I hope people understand this and respect where I am coming from.
> 
> Looking forward to learning the answer.
> 
> p.s.
> Would be great to know as well for those who linger on older Mac operating 
> systems do you still recieve updates and if so what kind of updates are they?
> 
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Re: Could Use some Automation Advice

[Jonathan Mosen]

Thanks Ricardo, that’s an interesting idea. Do you know if there’s a way of 
embedding a press of the return key in a keyboard dictionary entry?
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 26/11/2013, at 10:28 am, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> How about setting up a dictionary shortcut?  Like for example, many people 
> use this feature on there iPhone when texting.  You would write I don’t 
> know., and it would expand out to I don’t know.  You could use 2 symbols like 
> gl and would expand to your hash tag.  I know its not very elegant, but, I 
> think it would work for you.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I’d be very grateful for any advice from people with much more 
>> knowledge of Automater and Apple Script than I have.
>> I have what I think is quite a simple task but I’m not sure about the best 
>> tool or method for achieving it.
>> What I want to do is set up a key in VO so that when in the edit field for 
>> typing a tweet in Night Owl/YoruFukurou, I can press a single key that sends 
>> a specific string, then presses Return to send the tweet. I want to do this 
>> to send a hashtag I use regularly so the string is always the same.
>> The idea is that I would write my tweet, then include this hashtag at the 
>> end by pressing this single key.
>> I’m not sure if using Apple Script or Automater is the best way of getting 
>> this done, and what the process would be for either. I know how to use the 
>> commander to assign either a workflow or a script to a key, but actually 
>> getting the task automated is where I’d appreciate the advice.
>> If anyone can provide some advice and examples, I’d really appreciate it, 
>> thanks.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
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The FN Key

[Scott Rumery]

Hello,

I have just received my new wireless keyboard that I am loving except for one 
thing. On the right side of the spacebar the 3 keys are: Command, F/N, and 
Control. Now me being right handed and all I would prefer to have an option key 
on the right side of the spacebar so that it would make using VO a bit easier 
when I need to press a key combination that is on the left side of my keyboard.

Does anyone know if there is a way to change the F/N key into an option key?

Thank you,

Scott Rumery

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FIX FOR DOWNCAST BUSY

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, folks for those who are having this issue see below. this worked 
for me, and as the tech support folks say they are trying to work this out.


NOV 25, 2013  |  04:23PM EST
George replied:
Hi Jesus,

We're working on this and hope to have it fixed in the next release. For 
now, I suggest trying this:


1) Close Downcast
2) Open Terminal
3) Run this command in Terminal: defaults delete 
com.jamawkinaw.downcast.mac


That will delete your Downcast preferences. The next time you start 
Downcast you should hit CMD
+ R after it starts up to refresh all your podcasts. Since this is 
deleting your preferences, you'll need
to then re-enable iCloud settings so you get back in sync with your 
other devices.


Thanks,
George

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Still on sale as of 11/25 Re: Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac and iOS on Sale today (November 24, 2013)

[Christina C.]

I just purchased the iPad version and the Mac Version at the sale price. Thanks 
for sharing, I have been waiting and hoping for a sale to purchase the Mac 
version as I love the iPhone version but I want to add all my recipes from the 
mac as that sounds much easier. :)

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Esther  wrote:

> 
> Hi Jessica and Others,
> 
> Here are the download links for Paprika Recipe Manager for the iPhone (and 
> iPod Touch), iPad, and Mac.  All theses apps are on sale in celebration for 
> (U.S.) Thanksgiving, so they should be good through at least Thanksgiving 
> Day, and maybe through next weekend.  I briefly panicked when an attempt to 
> check the dates of the sale by Googling their blog turned up an old entry 
> from last year, when the sale started just around Thanksgiving and lasted 
> through the Sunday.  Had me thinking that these deals would expire last 
> night!.  I've corrected the link to the Mac App Store  given in my first post 
> (and under the AppleVis pp Deal listings) so that this will work 
> internationally. Also note that the latest version of the iOS apps run on iOS 
> 7.  If you are still running iOS 6 (or earlier), you can purchase the iOS 
> apps using iTunes on your computer, then when you try to download the app on 
> your iOS device, you'll get the latest version that is compatible with your 
> operating system version, and it will be accessible since this app has been 
> supporting VoiceOver users for a while.
> 
> • Paprika Recipe Manager for iPhone ($2.99, usually lists for $4.99) by 
> Hindsight Labs, LLC
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8
> • Paprika Recipe Manager for iPad ($2.99, usually lists for $4.99) by 
> Hindsight Labs, LLC
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id392408028?mt=8
> • Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac ($9.99, usually lists for $19.99) by 
> Hindsight Labs, LLC
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id451907568?mt=12
> 
> There's also an Android app that is on sale, but that only supports English, 
> while the iOS apps support English, Bokmål, Norwegian, Chinese, Czech, 
> Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Polish, 
> Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish, as well as supporting a host of 
> international recipe sites.
> 
> For more information, check Paprika's Support web page at:
> https://paprikaapp.zendesk.com/home
> 
> I'll also give direct links to the detailed user guides you can find at that 
> support web page:
> • Paprika iPhone user guide:
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/iphone/
> • Paprika iPad user guide
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/ipad/
> • Paprika Mac user guide:
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/mac/
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:41:08 AM UTC-10, Jessica D wrote:
> can i get download links for both versions please? 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Esther wrote: 
> > 
> > Alex, Paprika is much better than Pepperplate, and the devs rewrote this 
> > for VoiceOver accessibility in an extremely responsive fashion.  There's a 
> > big difference between an app that just works with VoiceOver, and one where 
> > they rewrote the interface in response to user requests. Also, this app 
> > does much more  -- I know you don't need to use this for meal scheduling or 
> > nutrition, or to automatically have your shopping lists with you, but it 
> > all syncs together so that you do.  I originally recommended this to 
> > someone of the viphone list who wanted to import his own recipes, and who 
> > didn't like any of the alternatives. 
> > 
> > You can read my archived posts: 
> > • Describing the Mac app on the MacVisionaries list 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg80606.html 
> > • Describing why I like the  iOS app on the Mac-Access List 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg14524.html 
> > • Describing Recipe importing of the ViPhone list 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg33281.html 
> > 
> > The only thing is that I'm late posting this.  This app is terrific and 
> > rarely goes on sale. I have both the Mac and iOS versions.  If in doubt, 
> > get the iPhone version, but I really like having both, because importing is 
> > easier on the Mac. 
> > 
> > I think this offer may expire soon, though. 
> > 
> > Esther 
> > 
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Re: Installing OSX on a 2TB WD Drive

[Terje Strømberg]

I think i have read here on this list that OSX will not boot from external 
connected with usb. 

24. nov. 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev Daniel C :

> The disk shows up on the desktop so I’d assume that means t’s mounted.
> 
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Fusion on external ssd

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi

Has anyone tried to install VmWare Fusion on an external SSD with Thunderbolt 
connection? Does Fusion have any issues with the Thunderbolt standard?

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Re: Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac and iOS on Sale today (November 24, 2013)

[Alex Hall]

Thank you. I got the iPhone version earlier today and have not yet added 
anything to it. I have about thirty recipes in Pepperplate, so I really hope 
I'm able to export them somehow! I also looked at the Mac version, but it is 
$10, way more than I want to pay. Thanks for the information, though - the 
iPhone version looks really nice so far.
On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Alex, Paprika is much better than Pepperplate, and the devs rewrote this for 
> VoiceOver accessibility in an extremely responsive fashion.  There's a big 
> difference between an app that just works with VoiceOver, and one where they 
> rewrote the interface in response to user requests. Also, this app does much 
> more  -- I know you don't need to use this for meal scheduling or nutrition, 
> or to automatically have your shopping lists with you, but it all syncs 
> together so that you do.  I originally recommended this to someone of the 
> viphone list who wanted to import his own recipes, and who didn't like any of 
> the alternatives.
> 
> You can read my archived posts:
> • Describing the Mac app on the MacVisionaries list
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg80606.html
> • Describing why I like the  iOS app on the Mac-Access List
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg14524.html
> • Describing Recipe importing of the ViPhone list
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg33281.html
> 
> The only thing is that I'm late posting this.  This app is terrific and 
> rarely goes on sale. I have both the Mac and iOS versions.  If in doubt, get 
> the iPhone version, but I really like having both, because importing is 
> easier on the Mac.
> 
> I think this offer may expire soon, though.
> 
> Esther 
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VMWare questions

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I finally got VMWare Fusion running! I guess I complained enough, because they 
called me back within an hour, had me set up a remote access program, and did 
everything for me.  I'm still not overly impressed with their support, 
but at least they fixed this.

Now, though, I have some questions. This is on a Macbook Air with 4gb of ram 
(total, not for the vm only). I will set up Windows on my Mini soon, but want 
to iron everything out on the Macbook first since my Mini is my primary machine.

1. According to Fusion's preferences, ctrl-cmd should toggle keyboard/mouse 
control between Windows and Mac, but that does not always seem to be the case. 
Voiceover usually grabs keystrokes, almost randomly at times, and the caps lock 
modifier does not work at all. In addition, keyboard commander keystrokes are 
grabbed, so windows-b executes my battery script instead of jumping to the Task 
Bar. This, of course, means I cannot reliably control Windows, and cannot 
access the NVDA menus.

2. The default behavior for closing Fusion is to suspend open VMs. Is that 
okay, or is it recommended that I shut them down instead?

3. Windows seems quiet relative to OS10. Is there a way to turn it up? It may 
well be Windows' volume, I haven't managed to check yet (see #1).

Thank you in advance, and I am sure I will have more questions as time goes on. 
As I said, I really want to nail down any possible problems before trying this 
out on my main machine. However, I am demoing Windows to a client tomorrow, 
using the Macbook, so it would be nice to have better control over Windows 
before then. (Yeah, I put this one off, but in my defense I never expected so 
much trouble with VMWare).


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: Installing OSX on a 2TB WD Drive

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I have done this in the past week though using the Lion OS. The disk does have 
to be partitioned very specifically and Disk Utility hides the partitioning 
scheme in the option button.

Take a  look at the partition tab of Disk Utility and hopefully you will 
understand.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



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> I think i have read here on this list that OSX will not boot from external 
> connected with usb. 
> 
> 24. nov. 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev Daniel C :
> 
>> The disk shows up on the desktop so I’d assume that means t’s mounted.
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Re: Could Use some Automation Advice

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I looked at the Night Owl program and it does not accept Apple Events.  For the 
dictionary idea if you go to keyboard system preferences there is an area to 
set up keyboard expansion. I understand this also syncs with the iPhone too. 
Quite a few folks like Keyboard Maestro which interacts directly with the 
Apple's accessability API's to add task and text expansion.

I don't know any blind folks that currently use non-Apple keyboard expansion 
utilities at the moment.

Adam Angst did write up how he automated publishing e-books to PDF and ePUB 
using a keyboard macro tool. You should be able to find that article in the 
TIDBITS.com  archive.
Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

> Thanks Ricardo, that’s an interesting idea. Do you know if there’s a way of 
> embedding a press of the return key in a keyboard dictionary entry?
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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> 
> On 26/11/2013, at 10:28 am, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> How about setting up a dictionary shortcut?  Like for example, many people 
>> use this feature on there iPhone when texting.  You would write I don’t 
>> know., and it would expand out to I don’t know.  You could use 2 symbols 
>> like gl and would expand to your hash tag.  I know its not very elegant, 
>> but, I think it would work for you.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I’d be very grateful for any advice from people with much more 
>>> knowledge of Automater and Apple Script than I have.
>>> I have what I think is quite a simple task but I’m not sure about the best 
>>> tool or method for achieving it.
>>> What I want to do is set up a key in VO so that when in the edit field for 
>>> typing a tweet in Night Owl/YoruFukurou, I can press a single key that 
>>> sends a specific string, then presses Return to send the tweet. I want to 
>>> do this to send a hashtag I use regularly so the string is always the same.
>>> The idea is that I would write my tweet, then include this hashtag at the 
>>> end by pressing this single key.
>>> I’m not sure if using Apple Script or Automater is the best way of getting 
>>> this done, and what the process would be for either. I know how to use the 
>>> commander to assign either a workflow or a script to a key, but actually 
>>> getting the task automated is where I’d appreciate the advice.
>>> If anyone can provide some advice and examples, I’d really appreciate it, 
>>> thanks.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
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Re: Another scan possibility.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Sorry about being vague yesterday. I was thinking of DEVONthink but I did not 
know how to spell it. There is a Take Control book on the product that came out 
at the same time as Take Control of Your Paperless Office. Both books were by 
the same author and shortly after they came out I got DEVONthink as a demo and 
found the scanning worked but was confused as to how to actually organize 
things. There have been several releases since. Also, I believe it is one of 
the products that you can get a discount for if you are a tidbits.com paid 
subscriber.

Can you let the list and myself know how  well your trial with this works?

Thanks,

Jonathan Cohn
jon.c.c...@gmail.com


On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:05 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>   How do you get a copy of this?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> A couple years back I looked a little at a document organization package 
>> recommended by Tidbits.com (actually I think they sponser Tidbis tooo). It 
>> includes a copy of ABBY Fine Reader as a OCR engine and indexes documents as 
>> they are imported into the database. I never took the time to read the Take 
>> Control of and could not fully appreciate the process. At that time the only 
>> version with OCR was the professional priced around $150 I think now it is 
>> included in more of their products. I doubt I could get another 30 day demo. 
>> But perhahsp we should see if this is a solution that wourks for us. 
>> 
>> Tidbits has also had great comments about some of the sheet feeder scanners 
>> that can process 12 pages a minute. Imagine going through all that Snaiml 
>> mail in almost the same time as a sighted person!
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Could Use some Automation Advice

[Jonathan Mosen]

Thanks Jonathan, the substitutions sort of does what I want, except I can't get 
it to press enter for me and send the tweet.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 26/11/2013, at 3:44 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> I looked at the Night Owl program and it does not accept Apple Events.  For 
> the dictionary idea if you go to keyboard system preferences there is an area 
> to set up keyboard expansion. I understand this also syncs with the iPhone 
> too. Quite a few folks like Keyboard Maestro which interacts directly with 
> the Apple's accessability API's to add task and text expansion.
> 
> I don't know any blind folks that currently use non-Apple keyboard expansion 
> utilities at the moment.
> 
> Adam Angst did write up how he automated publishing e-books to PDF and ePUB 
> using a keyboard macro tool. You should be able to find that article in the 
> TIDBITS.com  archive.
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ricardo, that’s an interesting idea. Do you know if there’s a way of 
>> embedding a press of the return key in a keyboard dictionary entry?
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>> On 26/11/2013, at 10:28 am, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> How about setting up a dictionary shortcut?  Like for example, many people 
>>> use this feature on there iPhone when texting.  You would write I don’t 
>>> know., and it would expand out to I don’t know.  You could use 2 symbols 
>>> like gl and would expand to your hash tag.  I know its not very elegant, 
>>> but, I think it would work for you.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone, I’d be very grateful for any advice from people with much 
 more knowledge of Automater and Apple Script than I have.
 I have what I think is quite a simple task but I’m not sure about the best 
 tool or method for achieving it.
 What I want to do is set up a key in VO so that when in the edit field for 
 typing a tweet in Night Owl/YoruFukurou, I can press a single key that 
 sends a specific string, then presses Return to send the tweet. I want to 
 do this to send a hashtag I use regularly so the string is always the same.
 The idea is that I would write my tweet, then include this hashtag at the 
 end by pressing this single key.
 I’m not sure if using Apple Script or Automater is the best way of getting 
 this done, and what the process would be for either. I know how to use the 
 commander to assign either a workflow or a script to a key, but actually 
 getting the task automated is where I’d appreciate the advice.
 If anyone can provide some advice and examples, I’d really appreciate it, 
 thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 
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Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow through 
the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by conversation is 
selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. When we press 
right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. I've tried 
enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the mailbox list, and 
all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't get right-arrow to 
expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely off, and I've tried both 
interacting with the table and not. I can't immediately see a difference 
between my system and hers and it works for me and not for her. We're both 
running Mavericks.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks.
Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Jessica D]

Maybe open the disclosure triangle.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the mailbox 
> list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't get 
> right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely off, 
> and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't immediately 
> see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me and not for 
> her. We're both running Mavericks.
> Anyone got any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Greg Aikens]

I’m also having this problem but am able to expand the message with VO+Space.  
Left arrow works to collapse it.  Not sure why this is happening.



On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the mailbox 
> list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't get 
> right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely off, 
> and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't immediately 
> see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me and not for 
> her. We're both running Mavericks.
> Anyone got any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Les Kriegler]

Jonathan, I experiences from time to time as well. When this occurs, I am Lord 
voice over with command F5. Then I start using the down arrow and right arrow 
keys. Once the right arrow does not result in a dang, the problem is usually 
resolved. And then reload voiceover with commander five and all works until I 
happens again usually several weeks later.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the mailbox 
> list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't get 
> right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely off, 
> and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't immediately 
> see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me and not for 
> her. We're both running Mavericks.
> Anyone got any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Ray Foret Jr]

Whenever this happens to me, which is very rare, what I do is turn off voice 
over, then, press the option key plus the white arrow. Then, I turn voiceover 
back on, and all is well. I hope that helps.



Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the mailbox 
> list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't get 
> right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely off, 
> and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't immediately 
> see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me and not for 
> her. We're both running Mavericks.
> Anyone got any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
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Re: Could Use some Automation Advice

[Nicholas Parsons]

I guess you might have to press enter by yourself. Thankfully it's only one key 
press. :)

On 26 Jan 2013, at 2:22 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

Thanks Jonathan, the substitutions sort of does what I want, except I can't get 
it to press enter for me and send the tweet.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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On 26/11/2013, at 3:44 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> I looked at the Night Owl program and it does not accept Apple Events.  For 
> the dictionary idea if you go to keyboard system preferences there is an area 
> to set up keyboard expansion. I understand this also syncs with the iPhone 
> too. Quite a few folks like Keyboard Maestro which interacts directly with 
> the Apple's accessability API's to add task and text expansion.
> 
> I don't know any blind folks that currently use non-Apple keyboard expansion 
> utilities at the moment.
> 
> Adam Angst did write up how he automated publishing e-books to PDF and ePUB 
> using a keyboard macro tool. You should be able to find that article in the 
> TIDBITS.com  archive.
> Best wishes,
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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
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>> Thanks Ricardo, that’s an interesting idea. Do you know if there’s a way of 
>> embedding a press of the return key in a keyboard dictionary entry?
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>> On 26/11/2013, at 10:28 am, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> How about setting up a dictionary shortcut?  Like for example, many people 
>>> use this feature on there iPhone when texting.  You would write I don’t 
>>> know., and it would expand out to I don’t know.  You could use 2 symbols 
>>> like gl and would expand to your hash tag.  I know its not very elegant, 
>>> but, I think it would work for you.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone, I’d be very grateful for any advice from people with much 
 more knowledge of Automater and Apple Script than I have.
 I have what I think is quite a simple task but I’m not sure about the best 
 tool or method for achieving it.
 What I want to do is set up a key in VO so that when in the edit field for 
 typing a tweet in Night Owl/YoruFukurou, I can press a single key that 
 sends a specific string, then presses Return to send the tweet. I want to 
 do this to send a hashtag I use regularly so the string is always the same.
 The idea is that I would write my tweet, then include this hashtag at the 
 end by pressing this single key.
 I’m not sure if using Apple Script or Automater is the best way of getting 
 this done, and what the process would be for either. I know how to use the 
 commander to assign either a workflow or a script to a key, but actually 
 getting the task automated is where I’d appreciate the advice.
 If anyone can provide some advice and examples, I’d really appreciate it, 
 thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Jonathan Mosen]

I'll try that Ray, thanks. What does option+right-arrow do?
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On 26/11/2013, at 5:33 pm, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Whenever this happens to me, which is very rare, what I do is turn off voice 
> over, then, press the option key plus the white arrow. Then, I turn voiceover 
> back on, and all is well. I hope that helps.
> 
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> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
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> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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>> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
>> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
>> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
>> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
>> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
>> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
>> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
>> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the 
>> mailbox list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't 
>> get right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely 
>> off, and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't 
>> immediately see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me 
>> and not for her. We're both running Mavericks.
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>> Thanks.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>> http://Mosen.org
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[David Taylor]

Right arrow expands them for me.

Cheers
Dave

On 26 Nov 2013, at 03:30, Jessica D  wrote:

> Maybe open the disclosure triangle.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
>> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
>> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
>> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
>> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
>> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
>> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
>> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the 
>> mailbox list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't 
>> get right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely 
>> off, and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't 
>> immediately see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me 
>> and not for her. We're both running Mavericks.
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>> Thanks.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
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