Re: Is it true in Mavericks that iTunes contact syncing has gone?

[Daniel McGee]

Hi Tim, many thanks for your detailed email. I have a couple of questions I'd 
like to clear up.
1. You say "the On My Mac section" could you explain what this is?
2. I have gone into my contacts app that is placed on my doc, and have 
navigated to name table and have highlighted them all with CMD a. 
Then I went to file, export, export V card…Then saved the VCF extension to 
location I can remember. 
This is in the hope that should something mess-up would I be able to restore my 
contacts back into iTunes/contacts with this .VCF file?
The last thing I want to do is lose all of them which I'm sure anyone will 
understand.
If you could confirm if this method will restore my contacts if something 
should go horribly wrong that would be great.

Thanks

Daniel 
,   
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:28, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just make sure that Contacts is on in Settings/iCloud on your iPhone and that 
> Contacts is checked on in the Services Table in the iCloud pane of System 
> Prefs on your Mac.  That should do it.  After the sync is complete, just 
> navigate over to the Groups Table and select iCloud to see what contacts were 
> moved up to the Cloud.  If everything is good in the iCloud list, then, if 
> you’re brave, you can get rid of the same list of contacts from the On My Mac 
> section.  This way, you shouldn’t get duplicates and you’ll ensure that when 
> you update a specific contact, it’s the one that will be synced with your 
> iPhone.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Daniel McGee  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok guys, I accept the cloud for what's it worth.
>> If I want to use it, how can I insure that all my contacts from iPhone to 
>> mac get uploaded successfully in order that I can use it?
>> 
>> I've got an iCloud account linked to my apple ID. So just awaiting your 
>> instructions. 
>> Want to do it right if you know what I mean. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Daniel 
>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 17:53, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I agree. At this point, there’s one app iTunes won’t sync for me which 
>>> iCloud will. I do admit that iTunes was faster when putting a whole bunch 
>>> of apps on my iPod at once, but otherwise, I am using the cloud more and 
>>> more.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>>> Feynman
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 Synching to the cloud is the way to go.  The cloud has saved my tail at 
 least twice when it comes to contacts, book marks, and license key 
 documents.  Drob box does great for storing disk images of apps.  Between 
 those two sources, reinstalls, when necessary, are practically no effort 
 at all.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Chris H  wrote:
 
> No I agree. Syncing to the cloud is the way forward. I reckon one day 
> only a minority will have a personal computer and instead opt for a 
> tablet computer. That seems to be the vision of companies like Apple 
> anyway.
> 
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
> 
> On 12/11/2013 22:12, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Yes, it is gone. They want you to eat sync your contacts with iCloud, 
>> which quite honestly, I think everybody should do. But that's just my 
>> opinion.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I put my contacts into the cloud and am not concerned one bit. I 
>>> have every faith in Apple. Yes things go wrong but don't every company 
>>> make mistakes and hopefully learn by them? I hope it's not true either 
>>> but personally I sync absolutely everything to the cloud including 
>>> contacts. I can understand though if they have personal or business 
>>> addresses in them but none of my contacts do. The majority just have a 
>>> number, others have both a number and e-mail address, the rest just 
>>> have an e-mail address.
>>> 
>>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>>> christopher...@gmail.com
>>> 
 On 12/11/2013 19:23, Daniel McGee wrote:
 Hi all, just wondering if the above subject line is true.
 Apparently, I found some articles on the net that say that it is no 
 longer possible to sink your contacts from iPhone to mac via USB cabel 
 but one is forced to use iCloud.
 Personally I don't use iCloud and I don't know about others but for me 
 I personally don't use iCloud and for some reason wouldn't feel safe 
 or like the idea of submitting my contacts up into the cloud. I mean 
 I'm no criminal lol but stripping this functionality away from my mac, 
>>>

Re: Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames

[Steve Holmes]

I have also experienced this but I am not on Mavericks yet. I think it
came with the most recent version of Safari regardless of OS
version. The main place where I experienced this was on the safeway
shopping site and I have to login to demo this. thus, I would have a
hard time reporting this to Apple without giving them access to my
account. 

I wasn't sure if it was a Safari issue or something funky with that
particdular site.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 04:28:14PM -0700, BlindMacMan wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks Tim! At least you confirmed the problem... I was thinking I was 
> > having a major brain freeze. I will forward my findings to 
> > accessibil...@apple.com and I will check out your (sometimes possible) work 
> > arounds. Lou/BlindMacMan
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:42:00 AM UTC-7, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> > Hi Lou,
> >
> > I can confirm your findings.  Here?s what I do to get around this for now.
> >
> > 1.  After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach 
> > an item in the other frame.
> > 2.  If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it.
> >
> > This is where things get inconsistent.  Sometimes, I can Interact with 
> > whatever I?ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I?d 
> > like.  It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item 
> > Chooser, most of the elements aren?t being noticed by VO.  If you tab 
> > though, they are workable, but not really in a VO way.  What I mean here, 
> > is that using VO commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS 
> > commands like tab and return will perform the task.  I?ve also noticed 
> > that, only sometimes, a Refresh of the page will help.
> >
> > So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given 
> > you half-baked work-arounds.  Hope it helped a little.
> >
> > Later?
> >
> > Tim Kilburn
> > Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> >
> > On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:17 AM, blind...@mac.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The 
> > website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the 
> > content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this 
> > setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9.
> >
> > When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection 
> > from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the 
> > main frame Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another 
> > selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it 
> > the second time.
> >
> > Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and 
> > disabling  Live Regions also has no effect.
> >
> > Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The 
> > main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem 
> > seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, 
> > when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu 
> > frame).
> >
> > Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have 
> > any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just 
> > difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would 
> > like to avoid.)
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance you may provide!
> >
> > Lou/BlindMacMan.
> > Golden Gate Guards
> > GGG Web/Post Master.
> > www.ggguards.org
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Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I think 
might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no longer consumes 
so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling this might help with 
the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where Finder goes busy in certain 
views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but be advised that you will have to 
redo all your settings. This would include file extension views, custom views, 
tab and window preferences, sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, 
if it works, it would be worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter


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Cog and Ladiocast, ready for Mavriks?

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi all.
I had a question.
Does anyone know if Ladiocast or Cog are ready for Mavriks?
Thank you.

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Clipboard and Launchbar

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

Has anyone had any issues with the merge clipboard feature in Launch Bar?
When pressing “command-C-C,” to merged a clipped set of items, it appears not 
to execute.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Reading a lengthy document in Text Edit

[Richard Ring]

I have a rather lengthy document  that I am reading in Text Edit. If I stop 
reading the document in order to do something else and then want to resume 
reading where I left off, how do I do this? 
When I press VO A the document starts reading from the beginning again.
Thanks.


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Re: Reading a lengthy document in Text Edit

[Alex Hall]

It took me a while to figure this out, but the answer is pretty simple. When 
you open it TextEdit document, you don't actually interact with the text 
automatically. Make sure to hit the interact keystroke before you leave 
TextEdit, so that VoiceOver will remain on the last place you stopped. If you 
don't interact, voiceover will always start at the beginning, as you're seeing.
On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> I have a rather lengthy document  that I am reading in Text Edit. If I stop 
> reading the document in order to do something else and then want to resume 
> reading where I left off, how do I do this? 
> When I press VO A the document starts reading from the beginning again.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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dictation on Mac locks up the system

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Most of the time, dictation on the Mac is amazing. Twice now, though, I have 
had the Mac lock up on me when I hit the key to stop dictating. It does not 
recover, and my only option is a hard shutdown. Does anyone know what might be 
happening, and if there is a better way to recover from this mysterious 
problem? Thank you.


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Re: Clipboard and Launchbar

[Traci Duncan]

Hmmm, I’ve never played with this feature.  Here is their help page on the 
topic.
http://www.obdev.at/resources/launchbar/help/index.php?chapter=ClipboardHistory


I tried the feature, and I couldn’t get it to work either.

Traci

On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Emilio Hernandez  
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> Has anyone had any issues with the merge clipboard feature in Launch Bar?
> When pressing “command-C-C,” to merged a clipped set of items, it appears not 
> to execute.
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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problems type2phone on mavericks with iphone 4 with ios7

[Anouk Radix]

Hello,
In the past I have used type2phone on my mac mostly to search on spotify on ios 
since i dont have an external bt keyboard.
Now htat i have mavericks and ios 7 it does not work so well anymore though, i 
often get multiple letters entered when i only type one mostly at the beginning 
of a searchfield but sometimes also on othe rlocations.
Are there others with this problem and are there any solutions? Closing an 
dopening or reconnecting hte app dont seem to work.
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Is it true in Mavericks that iTunes contact syncing has gone?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

1.  The On My Mac may have been removed in Mavericks as I can’t locate it 
anymore either.  Or, it could just be not there in my situation since I have no 
contacts stored locally.  The best thing is to check in the Groups Table, in 
the All iCloud section to make sure all your contacts are present.  If when you 
go under the All Contacts section instead, and there are duplicates, then 
you’ll need to search out where those duplicates are hiding.  If there aren’t 
any when in the All Contacts area, then you’re good.

2.  Your procedure should work fine.  Those vCards can be restored into the 
Contacts app using the Import menu item.
syncing was simply a service within iTunes so that your contacts could be moved 
over to iDevices.

Later…

FYI, the iTunes app really has nothing to do with contacts, these contacts are 
stored independently of iTunes.  The Contact 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:

> Hi Tim, many thanks for your detailed email. I have a couple of questions I'd 
> like to clear up.
> 1. You say "the On My Mac section" could you explain what this is?
> 2. I have gone into my contacts app that is placed on my doc, and have 
> navigated to name table and have highlighted them all with CMD a. 
> Then I went to file, export, export V card…Then saved the VCF extension to 
> location I can remember. 
> This is in the hope that should something mess-up would I be able to restore 
> my contacts back into iTunes/contacts with this .VCF file?
> The last thing I want to do is lose all of them which I'm sure anyone will 
> understand.
> If you could confirm if this method will restore my contacts if something 
> should go horribly wrong that would be great.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel 
>,   
> On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:28, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just make sure that Contacts is on in Settings/iCloud on your iPhone and 
>> that Contacts is checked on in the Services Table in the iCloud pane of 
>> System Prefs on your Mac.  That should do it.  After the sync is complete, 
>> just navigate over to the Groups Table and select iCloud to see what 
>> contacts were moved up to the Cloud.  If everything is good in the iCloud 
>> list, then, if you’re brave, you can get rid of the same list of contacts 
>> from the On My Mac section.  This way, you shouldn’t get duplicates and 
>> you’ll ensure that when you update a specific contact, it’s the one that 
>> will be synced with your iPhone.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Daniel McGee  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok guys, I accept the cloud for what's it worth.
>>> If I want to use it, how can I insure that all my contacts from iPhone to 
>>> mac get uploaded successfully in order that I can use it?
>>> 
>>> I've got an iCloud account linked to my apple ID. So just awaiting your 
>>> instructions. 
>>> Want to do it right if you know what I mean. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Daniel 
>>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 17:53, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I agree. At this point, there’s one app iTunes won’t sync for me 
 which iCloud will. I do admit that iTunes was faster when putting a whole 
 bunch of apps on my iPod at once, but otherwise, I am using the cloud more 
 and more.
 
 Teresa
 
 "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> Synching to the cloud is the way to go.  The cloud has saved my tail at 
> least twice when it comes to contacts, book marks, and license key 
> documents.  Drob box does great for storing disk images of apps.  Between 
> those two sources, reinstalls, when necessary, are practically no effort 
> at all.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> No I agree. Syncing to the cloud is the way forward. I reckon one day 
>> only a minority will have a personal computer and instead opt for a 
>> tablet computer. That seems to be the vision of companies like Apple 
>> anyway.
>> 
>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>> christopher...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 12/11/2013 22:12, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes, it is gone. They want you to eat sync your contacts with iCloud, 
>>> which quite honestly, I think everybody should do. But that's just my 
>>> opinion.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Chris H  wrote:
 
 Well I put my contacts into the cloud and am not concerned one bit. I 
 have every faith in Apple. Yes things go wrong but don't every company 
 make mistakes and hopefully learn by them? I hope it's

Re: Cog and Ladiocast, ready for Mavriks?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
There was an update to Ladiocast right after Mavericks came out. I 
haven't tried it yet though but it should work.

Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
On 11/14/2013 9:39 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

Hi all.
I had a question.
Does anyone know if Ladiocast or Cog are ready for Mavriks?
Thank you.

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Re: Cog and Ladiocast, ready for Mavriks?

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey Jeff, thanks a lot. Downloaded the newest update, and I love what they've 
down to it.

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On 2013-11-14, at 12:49 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:

> Hi,
> There was an update to Ladiocast right after Mavericks came out. I haven't 
> tried it yet though but it should work.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> On 11/14/2013 9:39 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I had a question.
>> Does anyone know if Ladiocast or Cog are ready for Mavriks?
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Matt Dierckens
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> Assistive Technology Trainer
>> IOS and Macintosh User support
>> Windsor area
>> 
>> 
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Re: Track Changes or Text Attributes with Pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Greg,

Here’s a link to a review of our course on Applevis:


Cheers,

Anne


On 14 Nov 2013, at 01:53, Greg Aikens  wrote:

> Anne,
> I might be interested in something like this.  I have been disappointed in my 
> inability to master Pages on Mac as well as I have MS Word on Windows, but I 
> see you post about many of the things I have found frustrating.  Do you have 
> a description anywhere listing what kind of materials are in each unit?
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ibraheem,
>> 
>> My husband and I teach a Pages course via Skype and teamviewer. We’re 
>> currently updating the materials for Mavericks and the new Pages.
>> 
>> We charge €25 per unit and there are 5 units. However, not everyone wants 
>> all the units.
>> 
>> The price is in euros because we live in France and, of course, you have to 
>> take into consideration time differences between France and wherever you are.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 17:57, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Anne!
>>> 
>>> Wait, you have a course? Is it posted online? Can you link me to it?
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> 
>>> Ibraheem
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Fantastic, that's great news, Anne! Thanks for letting me know… I'm going 
 to have to get around to taking your course one of these days—perhaps once 
 you've had a chance to update the materials in light of the new versions.
 Cheers,
 Nic
 On 13/11/2013, at 9:15 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Nic,
 
 Tracking changes is working much better in the new version of Pages. It 
 tells you whether the change is an addition or a deletion, but I haven’t 
 yet figured out how to find formatting changes.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:04, Nicholas Parsons  
 wrote:
 
> Unfortunately, to my knowledge VoiceOver still does not work fully with 
> track changes. Track changes do not only highlight changes, but it also 
> indicates whether the change is a deletion or an addition, or a format 
> change. Anne Robertson, who is the guru on Pages with VoiceOver and on 
> this list can probably give you more information. I believe she was able 
> to get some use from track changes but it's not fully accessible.
> Best,
> Nic
> On 13 Nov 2013, at 1:44 am, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I’ve been working on a document which has been past through several 
>> people with the track changes feature turned on. To my understanding, 
>> there’s suppose to be a purple highlight on any changes made to the 
>> document. As I’m in pages, I noticed the view file pop up which contains 
>> an option to view markups or view markups and deletions. I chose to view 
>> markups. I know that in order to check text attributes we press VO + T. 
>> However, this only works for text which VO is focused on. Is there a way 
>> to have VO jump to the next change in text attributes? I'm dreading the 
>> thought of having to check line by line with the vo + t command.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Ibraheem
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I had 
written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of files on 
my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know what I can do 
to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying to copy a folder 
because of this. Personally, instead of setting things over, I'm just going to 
keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, I hope ASAP. I think doing 
work arounds is better than trying to redo your system to work around this. 

  Greetings Eugenia,

Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue that 
our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO enabled and 
browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere from 30 files or 
over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be done at this time to 
fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You will have to browse the 
Finder in another view such as List. The only real fix for this issue will come 
packaged in a software update. I also apologize that I am unable to provide if 
and when this update will be released. I hope you're at least able to get used 
to List view until we can take care of this one.

Apologies,

Apple Accessibility

Please also visit our sites
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/


On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I think 
> might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no longer 
> consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling this might 
> help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where Finder goes 
> busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but be advised 
> that you will have to redo all your settings. This would include file 
> extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, sidebar and 
> desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be worth it. 
> Here's the link so you can give it a try.
> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Michael Marshall]

hey,
good fix but sadly with VO and column view still no go i’m afrade.
On 15 Nov 2013, at 1:35 am, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I think 
> might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no longer 
> consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling this might 
> help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where Finder goes 
> busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but be advised 
> that you will have to redo all your settings. This would include file 
> extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, sidebar and 
> desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be worth it. 
> Here's the link so you can give it a try.
> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Alex Hall]

The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, though, 
when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO telling me I 
was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those files into the 
top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, then paste in Column 
View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a clearing of the preferences 
won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your message before I tried it. 
Thanks.
On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
> had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
> files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know what 
> I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying to copy 
> a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things over, I'm 
> just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, I hope ASAP. 
> I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your system to work 
> around this. 
> 
>   Greetings Eugenia,
> 
> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
> from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be done 
> at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You will have 
> to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real fix for this 
> issue will come packaged in a software update. I also apologize that I am 
> unable to provide if and when this update will be released. I hope you're at 
> least able to get used to List view until we can take care of this one.
> 
> Apologies,
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> Please also visit our sites
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I think 
>> might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no longer 
>> consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling this might 
>> help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where Finder goes 
>> busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but be advised 
>> that you will have to redo all your settings. This would include file 
>> extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, sidebar and 
>> desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be worth it. 
>> Here's the link so you can give it a try.
>> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Fwd: [425632] I messages in Mavericks on the Mac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Sent from my I phone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Apple Accessibility 
> Date: 14 November 2013 04:15:05 pm GMT
> To: kawa...@me.com
> Subject: [425632] I messages in Mavericks on the Mac
> Reply-To: Apple Accessibility 
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your email.  We appreciate the feedback and will pass this on 
> to the appropriate people for their consideration.
> 
> 
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please also visit our sites
> 
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> 
> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/

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Re: [425632] I messages in Mavericks on the Mac

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,
Can you provide a brief overview of what you originally emailed them about?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my I phone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility 
>> Date: 14 November 2013 04:15:05 pm GMT
>> To: kawa...@me.com
>> Subject: [425632] I messages in Mavericks on the Mac
>> Reply-To: Apple Accessibility 
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your email.  We appreciate the feedback and will pass this on 
>> to the appropriate people for their consideration.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please also visit our sites
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
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Navigating Listview, was Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Teresa Cochran]

Where in the folder structure do you go in list view to copy and paste? I 
understand that you have to be inside a folder. I’m actually getting used to 
list view now, and the arrow keys work the same way as in column view.

Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Nov 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, though, 
> when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO telling me 
> I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those files into the 
> top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, then paste in 
> Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a clearing of the 
> preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your message before I 
> tried it. Thanks.
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
>> had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
>> files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
>> what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying to 
>> copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things over, 
>> I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, I hope 
>> ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your system 
>> to work around this. 
>> 
>>   Greetings Eugenia,
>> 
>> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
>> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
>> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
>> from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
>> done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
>> will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
>> fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also apologize 
>> that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be released. I hope 
>> you're at least able to get used to List view until we can take care of this 
>> one.
>> 
>> Apologies,
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> Please also visit our sites
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
>>> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
>>> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
>>> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
>>> Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but 
>>> be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would include 
>>> file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, sidebar and 
>>> desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be worth it. 
>>> Here's the link so you can give it a try.
>>> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Phil Halton]

don't forget that pasting is different in list view than in column view. In 
column view, you can just highlight the folder you want to paste into and hit 
command v. In list view, you have to first open the folder. A good way to make 
sure you're on the right destination folder is to check what folder name finder 
shows in the title bar by vo left arrowing past the toolbar. Whatever name is 
reported there is the folder that will receive your pasted items.

On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, though, 
> when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO telling me 
> I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those files into the 
> top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, then paste in 
> Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a clearing of the 
> preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your message before I 
> tried it. Thanks.
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
>> had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
>> files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
>> what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying to 
>> copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things over, 
>> I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, I hope 
>> ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your system 
>> to work around this. 
>> 
>>   Greetings Eugenia,
>> 
>> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
>> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
>> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
>> from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
>> done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
>> will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
>> fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also apologize 
>> that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be released. I hope 
>> you're at least able to get used to List view until we can take care of this 
>> one.
>> 
>> Apologies,
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> Please also visit our sites
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
>>> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
>>> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
>>> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
>>> Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but 
>>> be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would include 
>>> file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, sidebar and 
>>> desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be worth it. 
>>> Here's the link so you can give it a try.
>>> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Navigating Listview, was Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Alex Hall]

I haven't worked that out, but I do not find arrow navigation to work as well. 
Sometimes folders refuse to open or close entirely, and even if a folder does 
close, I have to press the left arrow two or three times to get that to happen. 
Ialso don't like how VO will keep reading, and worse, searching as you type, 
past the end of the folder you are currently viewing. You can be browsing way 
down inside a folder structure, then one wrong letter and you've been jumped 
back out to land somewhere else in the top level. Yes, you can arrow up or down 
to try to find where you were, but it is still incredibly frustrating.
On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Where in the folder structure do you go in list view to copy and paste? I 
> understand that you have to be inside a folder. I’m actually getting used to 
> list view now, and the arrow keys work the same way as in column view.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, 
>> though, when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO 
>> telling me I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those 
>> files into the top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, 
>> then paste in Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a clearing 
>> of the preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your message 
>> before I tried it. Thanks.
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys
>>> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
>>> had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
>>> files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
>>> what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying 
>>> to copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things 
>>> over, I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, 
>>> I hope ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your 
>>> system to work around this. 
>>> 
>>>  Greetings Eugenia,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
>>> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
>>> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
>>> from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
>>> done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
>>> will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
>>> fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also 
>>> apologize that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be 
>>> released. I hope you're at least able to get used to List view until we can 
>>> take care of this one.
>>> 
>>> Apologies,
>>> 
>>> Apple Accessibility
>>> 
>>> Please also visit our sites
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
 think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
 longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
 this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
 Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but 
 be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would 
 include file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, 
 sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be 
 worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
 http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
 
 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Alex Hall]

That's the thing, I did that. I wanted to paste into 
/applications/audacity/plugins, so I opened the plugins folder and pasted. My 
files ended up in /applications, mixed in with all my .app files.
On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> don't forget that pasting is different in list view than in column view. In 
> column view, you can just highlight the folder you want to paste into and hit 
> command v. In list view, you have to first open the folder. A good way to 
> make sure you're on the right destination folder is to check what folder name 
> finder shows in the title bar by vo left arrowing past the toolbar. Whatever 
> name is reported there is the folder that will receive your pasted items.
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, 
>> though, when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO 
>> telling me I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those 
>> files into the top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, 
>> then paste in Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a clearing 
>> of the preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your message 
>> before I tried it. Thanks.
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys
>>> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
>>> had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
>>> files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
>>> what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying 
>>> to copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things 
>>> over, I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, 
>>> I hope ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your 
>>> system to work around this. 
>>> 
>>>   Greetings Eugenia,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
>>> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
>>> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
>>> from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
>>> done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
>>> will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
>>> fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also 
>>> apologize that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be 
>>> released. I hope you're at least able to get used to List view until we can 
>>> take care of this one.
>>> 
>>> Apologies,
>>> 
>>> Apple Accessibility
>>> 
>>> Please also visit our sites
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
 think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
 longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
 this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
 Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but 
 be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would 
 include file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, 
 sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be 
 worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
 http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
 
 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Red.Falcon]

Hi!
OK just in case did you open the folder with Command+O or with the arrows?
If with arrows you might find the items pasted like it did for you!
But with Command+O that should open that folder and be the only place you can 
paste into!
HTH Colin

On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:23, Alex Hall  wrote:

> That's the thing, I did that. I wanted to paste into 
> /applications/audacity/plugins, so I opened the plugins folder and pasted. My 
> files ended up in /applications, mixed in with all my .app files.
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> don't forget that pasting is different in list view than in column view. In 
>> column view, you can just highlight the folder you want to paste into and 
>> hit command v. In list view, you have to first open the folder. A good way 
>> to make sure you're on the right destination folder is to check what folder 
>> name finder shows in the title bar by vo left arrowing past the toolbar. 
>> Whatever name is reported there is the folder that will receive your pasted 
>> items.
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, 
>>> though, when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO 
>>> telling me I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those 
>>> files into the top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, 
>>> then paste in Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a 
>>> clearing of the preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your 
>>> message before I tried it. Thanks.
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys
 Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
 had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
 files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
 what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying 
 to copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things 
 over, I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, 
 I hope ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your 
 system to work around this. 
 
   Greetings Eugenia,
 
 Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
 that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
 enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
 from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
 done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
 will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
 fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also 
 apologize that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be 
 released. I hope you're at least able to get used to List view until we 
 can take care of this one.
 
 Apologies,
 
 Apple Accessibility
 
 Please also visit our sites
 http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
 http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
 
 
 On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
> Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, 
> but be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would 
> include file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, 
> sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would 
> be worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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problems type2phone on mavericks with iphone 4 with ios7

[Helena Fehr]

Wow! You too? The thing is I can't even get my Type2phone thing to work at all. 
I can do as much as go home and lock my phone with it, and that's it, and I had 
this problem with the old OS already too for awhile; it worked great at first, 
but then it wouldn't work, and now mavericks for sure doesn't work with mine at 
least, except to lock or unlock the phone (press the powerButton), or the home 
button. Nothing else works, no typing, no moving around, nothing. What's up 
with that? I know I had the latest update too, so that's not the problem, at 
least not if it was doing this on Mountain Lion already.

God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
Amen

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Re: Navigating Listview, was Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

In List view, the right arrow expands the folder you’re on which is confusing. 
To open the folder you should use either Cmd-Down Arrow or Cmd-o. To go up a 
level, press Cmd-Up Arrow.

You can collapse all the expanded folders in your window by pressing Left Arrow 
repeatedly.

I always use List view as I find it more logical than column view.

Cheers,

Anne

On 14 Nov 2013, at 23:22, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I haven't worked that out, but I do not find arrow navigation to work as 
> well. Sometimes folders refuse to open or close entirely, and even if a 
> folder does close, I have to press the left arrow two or three times to get 
> that to happen. Ialso don't like how VO will keep reading, and worse, 
> searching as you type, past the end of the folder you are currently viewing. 
> You can be browsing way down inside a folder structure, then one wrong letter 
> and you've been jumped back out to land somewhere else in the top level. Yes, 
> you can arrow up or down to try to find where you were, but it is still 
> incredibly frustrating.
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Where in the folder structure do you go in list view to copy and paste? I 
>> understand that you have to be inside a folder. I’m actually getting used to 
>> list view now, and the arrow keys work the same way as in column view.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, 
>>> though, when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO 
>>> telling me I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those 
>>> files into the top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, 
>>> then paste in Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a 
>>> clearing of the preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your 
>>> message before I tried it. Thanks.
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys
 Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
 had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
 files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
 what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying 
 to copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things 
 over, I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, 
 I hope ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your 
 system to work around this. 
 
 Greetings Eugenia,
 
 Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
 that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
 enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
 from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
 done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
 will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
 fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also 
 apologize that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be 
 released. I hope you're at least able to get used to List view until we 
 can take care of this one.
 
 Apologies,
 
 Apple Accessibility
 
 Please also visit our sites
 http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
 http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
 
 
 On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
> Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, 
> but be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would 
> include file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, 
> sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would 
> be worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Teresa Cochran]

Oh, that’s a great tip. I also just discovered that command-left-bracket will 
take you back to your previous folder view, with the folder closed.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Nov 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Red.Falcon  
wrote:

> Hi!
> OK just in case did you open the folder with Command+O or with the arrows?
> If with arrows you might find the items pasted like it did for you!
> But with Command+O that should open that folder and be the only place you can 
> paste into!
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:23, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> That's the thing, I did that. I wanted to paste into 
>> /applications/audacity/plugins, so I opened the plugins folder and pasted. 
>> My files ended up in /applications, mixed in with all my .app files.
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> don't forget that pasting is different in list view than in column view. In 
>>> column view, you can just highlight the folder you want to paste into and 
>>> hit command v. In list view, you have to first open the folder. A good way 
>>> to make sure you're on the right destination folder is to check what folder 
>>> name finder shows in the title bar by vo left arrowing past the toolbar. 
>>> Whatever name is reported there is the folder that will receive your pasted 
>>> items.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, 
 though, when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO 
 telling me I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those 
 files into the top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, 
 then paste in Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a 
 clearing of the preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read 
 your message before I tried it. Thanks.
 On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
> Hi guys
> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. 
> I had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot 
> of files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I 
> know what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time 
> trying to copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting 
> things over, I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets 
> squashed, I hope ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying 
> to redo your system to work around this. 
> 
>   Greetings Eugenia,
> 
> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has 
> anywhere from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing 
> that can be done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall 
> will help. You will have to browse the Finder in another view such as 
> List. The only real fix for this issue will come packaged in a software 
> update. I also apologize that I am unable to provide if and when this 
> update will be released. I hope you're at least able to get used to List 
> view until we can take care of this one.
> 
> Apologies,
> 
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> Please also visit our sites
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
>> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
>> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
>> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
>> Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, 
>> but be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would 
>> include file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, 
>> sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would 
>> be worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
>> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Alex Hall]

Thanks for the tips everyone. No, I only used the arrows to open the 
subfolders, so that was probably my problem. I still want Column View back, but 
at least this should help me deal with List View better until then.
On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Oh, that’s a great tip. I also just discovered that command-left-bracket will 
> take you back to your previous folder view, with the folder closed.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Red.Falcon  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> OK just in case did you open the folder with Command+O or with the arrows?
>> If with arrows you might find the items pasted like it did for you!
>> But with Command+O that should open that folder and be the only place you 
>> can paste into!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:23, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's the thing, I did that. I wanted to paste into 
>>> /applications/audacity/plugins, so I opened the plugins folder and pasted. 
>>> My files ended up in /applications, mixed in with all my .app files.
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 don't forget that pasting is different in list view than in column view. 
 In column view, you can just highlight the folder you want to paste into 
 and hit command v. In list view, you have to first open the folder. A good 
 way to make sure you're on the right destination folder is to check what 
 folder name finder shows in the title bar by vo left arrowing past the 
 toolbar. Whatever name is reported there is the folder that will receive 
 your pasted items.
 
 On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, 
> though, when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite 
> VO telling me I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting 
> those files into the top-level folder and had to go erase them all from 
> there, then paste in Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems 
> a clearing of the preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read 
> your message before I tried it. Thanks.
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. 
>> I had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a 
>> lot of files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. 
>> I know what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating 
>> time trying to copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of 
>> setting things over, I'm just going to keep going like I am until this 
>> bug gets squashed, I hope ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better 
>> than trying to redo your system to work around this. 
>> 
>>  Greetings Eugenia,
>> 
>> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an 
>> issue that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens 
>> with VO enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder 
>> has anywhere from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is 
>> nothing that can be done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a 
>> reinstall will help. You will have to browse the Finder in another view 
>> such as List. The only real fix for this issue will come packaged in a 
>> software update. I also apologize that I am unable to provide if and 
>> when this update will be released. I hope you're at least able to get 
>> used to List view until we can take care of this one.
>> 
>> Apologies,
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> Please also visit our sites
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
>>> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
>>> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
>>> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing 
>>> where Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing 
>>> else, but be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This 
>>> would include file extension views, custom views, tab and window 
>>> preferences, sidebar and desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it 
>>> works, it would be worth it. Here's the link so you can give it a try.
>>> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>

Fwd: I messages in Mavericks on the Mac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Sent from my I phone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
> Date: 5 November 2013 09:35:24 am GMT
> To: accessibil...@apple.com
> Subject: I messages in Mavericks on the Mac
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I am unable to use I messages on the Mac in Mavericks. Voice Over will not 
> read the information in the tables such as persons mobile or E-mail address 
> if you want to send an I Message.
> 
> Please make sure this is investigated and forwarded to the write team who 
> deal with Voice Over issues on the Mac.
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Kawal. 
> 
> Sent from my I phone

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Re: Possible Fix for Busy Finder

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi again Alex 
That's why I out the message in a big hurry. I didn't want you to spend a lot 
of grief after the message Apple sent me. 

Now let me offer a suggestion, although it's a pain, for dealing with this. I 
finally figured this out after I kept copying files and couldn't find them. I 
had to keep doing command z to undo what I had done since I knew that if I did 
it right, the new files would be right next to where VoiceOver said I was. 

I have found that i I go to my desktop, go to my hard disk and if necessary 
press command 2 to get list view. If you're lucky, you won't have everything 
expanded, but if not, you might want to press control option backslash so that 
everything collapses from the top. In my case, I go to Users by pressing down 
arrow. Then get next one. If you want your documents, uncollapse with the same 
command and try typing in the first letters of the word documents. Oh, yeah, I 
forgot to say to interact before you start this. 

I know you can go to Documents other ways, but I have found that with this 
problem, you are always where you think you are. Also, Finder busy may happen. 
I have found that if I start at the top then I end up in the right place to 
copy files. I have also found that in the long run, it saves me time because I 
don't copy stuff where I can't find it. 

I have also found that if you have a small number of folders so that Finder 
doesn't go into busy, that column view does let you copy your files into the 
right place. However, I don't know for sure until it's too late. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> The only other view that seems usable is List View. I tried it today, though, 
> when I was copying 36 files from one folder to another. Despite VO telling me 
> I was two levels deep into a folder, I ended up pasting those files into the 
> top-level folder and had to go erase them all from there, then paste in 
> Column View. Still, given what Apple said, it seems a clearing of the 
> preferences won't help, unfortunately. At least I read your message before I 
> tried it. Thanks.
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> Below is what I received from Apple Accessibility concerning this issue. I 
>> had written in about this because it was driving me crayy. I have a lot of 
>> files on my Mac, and if I do the wrong thing then I have to deal. I know 
>> what I can do to work around it, but I just had a frustrating time trying to 
>> copy a folder because of this. Personally, instead of setting things over, 
>> I'm just going to keep going like I am until this bug gets squashed, I hope 
>> ASAP. I think doing work arounds is better than trying to redo your system 
>> to work around this. 
>> 
>>   Greetings Eugenia,
>> 
>> Thanks for contacting Apple Accessibility. Unfortunately this is an issue 
>> that our Engineers are already investigating. This only happens with VO 
>> enabled and browsing in Column view. It can occur if a folder has anywhere 
>> from 30 files or over 500. I apologize that there is nothing that can be 
>> done at this time to fix this issue. Not even a reinstall will help. You 
>> will have to browse the Finder in another view such as List. The only real 
>> fix for this issue will come packaged in a software update. I also apologize 
>> that I am unable to provide if and when this update will be released. I hope 
>> you're at least able to get used to List view until we can take care of this 
>> one.
>> 
>> Apologies,
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> Please also visit our sites
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was checking my Twitter feed today, when I came across a link that I 
>>> think might help. It is a way to basically reset finder so that it no 
>>> longer consumes so much CPU. I have not tested it yet, I have a feeling 
>>> this might help with the problem that a lot of us are experiencing where 
>>> Finder goes busy in certain views. It is worth a try, if nothing else, but 
>>> be advised that you will have to redo all your settings. This would include 
>>> file extension views, custom views, tab and window preferences, sidebar and 
>>> desktop preferences, and more. Still, if it works, it would be worth it. 
>>> Here's the link so you can give it a try.
>>> http://osxdaily.com/2013/11/13/fix-finder-slow-high-cpu-use-mac-os-x/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed:+osxdaily+(OS+X+Daily)&utm_content=buffer95dc0&utm_medium=twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: How well is terminal working in Mavericks?

[Peter Durieux]

Hi Garry,

Just a quick note, I just use a vm with Debian wheezy and brltty to do all my 
console tasks.
terminal is accessible, but jumping to cursor position is missing for me as 
well.

Looking forward to what the mavericks guys here will tell us :)


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 09:55:14PM +, Garry Turkington wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Looking through the list I see several people are using the OS X
> terminal on a regular basis.  Is the terminal accessibility any better
> in Mavericks than earlier versions?
> 
> I always found terminal accessibility a bit of a pain on the Mac and I
> try it again every few versions.  Last time around -- with Snow
> Leopard -- it was generally usable but things like not getting  the
> output of commands read  and always having to review after every
> command really started to grate after an hour or two.  But I've beaten
> another laptop to death and if I felt I could live in the Mac terminal
> for a chunk of my day then that would be  a possibility -- with the
> terminal accessibility as it was though it was a deal breaker.
> Otherwise I'd be  running a Linux VM under Fusion and that doesn't buy
> me much.  Use case is primarily software development on a range of
> remote hosts as well as a chunk of sysadmin and DBA type work.
> 
> Any input gratefully received!
> Garry
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Re: Garage band: volume of software instruments

[Chris Moore]

Phil,
Thanks for the tip.  I’m new to the program and new to learn some keystrokes 
and how to get things done.  

Chris

On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> turn up the track  or master  volume,, either by command up arrow for the 
> master, or with the volume slider   for the track in the track headers 
> section of the arrange layout area.
> . 
> On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I hooked up a midi keyboard to GB.  I can hear the notes, but the volume is 
>> far too low.  I think I’m using the built-in grand piano.
>> 
>> TIA
>> Chris
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Re: Reading a lengthy document in Text Edit

[BBS]

Hi Richard. Try interacting with the text. HTH.

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Re: problems type2phone on mavericks with iphone 4 with ios7

[BBS]

Hi Anouk. Do you have the latest version of Type To Phone? I thought I 
read in the latest update that they fixed that problem.


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getting to the top of a page or document

[Brooke Jostad]

Hi all,
I'm having trouble moving to the dop of documents and text. I can go by 
page and by paragraph using the macbook Air, but is there a keystroke I'm 
not finding that allows me to get to the top of the entire document?
Much thanks,

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Re: getting to the top of a page or document

[John Sanfilippo]

Try command plus up arrow.

John S


On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Brooke Jostad  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm having trouble moving to the dop of documents and text. I can go by page 
and by paragraph using the macbook Air, but is there a keystroke I'm not 
finding that allows me to get to the top of the entire document?
Much thanks,


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Re: getting to the top of a page or document

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hey brooke!
fn+control+left arrow should do it!
HTH,
On 11/14/2013 11:57 PM, Brooke Jostad wrote:

Hi all,
I'm having trouble moving to the dop of documents and text. I can go 
by page and by paragraph using the macbook Air, but is there a 
keystroke I'm not finding that allows me to get to the top of the 
entire document?

Much thanks,

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Re: getting to the top of a page or document

[Alex Hall]

There are two options. Command-up arrow will move you to the top of a text 
area, such as an email or file you are writing, and is not a Voiceover command. 
Function-vo-shift-left, if memory serves, is the "top of window" Voiceover 
command and works anywhere. That latter one may move you out of a text area 
though, since it is only trying to jump to the first thing in the window and 
has no concept of text, whereas cmd-up (or cmd-down) will move in only text and 
have no concept of the overall window.
On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:

> Hey brooke!
> fn+control+left arrow should do it!
> HTH,
> On 11/14/2013 11:57 PM, Brooke Jostad wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm having trouble moving to the dop of documents and text. I can go by page 
>> and by paragraph using the macbook Air, but is there a keystroke I'm not 
>> finding that allows me to get to the top of the entire document?
>> Much thanks,
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