Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
So, then does that mean if I jailbroke, then used a tool to unlock via the 
jailbreak it's illegal, or only if I do it through other means?


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- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Babcock" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone


As of Saturday, January 26, 2013, it is illegal to unlock your cell phone 
for use on a different carrier. It is not illegal to jailbreak a device 
however.


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On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  
wrote:


I'm confused. As far as I'm aware, unlocking and jailbreaking are entirely 
different processes. Unlocking allows you to use a phone with a different 
carrier. Jailbreaking is a modification of the software on Iphones to 
provide various features that aren't native to IOS. I don't get how 
someone would know the phone is jailbroken, but it could be determined if 
phones on unlocked, since they use carriers. So which is it that's 
illegal?


Teresa


Visualize whirled peas.

On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:27 PM, "David Tanner"  
wrote:


No, it isn’t.  I actually heard about it first on the evening news last 
Friday evening.  It is true, and I guess there can be fines and possibly 
jail time after multiple repeated occurances.




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Gilland

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

This is ludicrus!  For one thing, it states in this mail that we're 
grandfathered in if we already unlocked.  Hmm, G, so how do they know if 
we did it a year ago, or if we did it just now?  And how would they prove 
it?  I'm sorry, but I'm calling a bullshit on this one.  I'm not saying 
you, as the sender of this message to the list are wrong, but I wonder if 
this is actually a hoax.


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Subject: FW: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone



From: IDevices [mailto:idevices-boun...@gatewayfortheblind.com] On Behalf 
Of Trish Zoellers Scott

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:27 AM
To: Gateway IOS Devices
Subject: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone




From
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319
518
By JOANNA STERN

You likely have a cellphone that you bought from a carrier, like AT&T,
Verizon or Sprint, and that phone only works on that carrier's cellular 
and

data network -- unless you "unlock" it.

That is a software process that allows the phone to work on other 
carriers

if you put in a new SIM card or want to take the phone to another carrier
for service.

If that sounds complicated to you and like something you wouldn't bother
with, then today's news won't matter to you. But if that's something 
you've
done before or have thought about doing, then you should know that 
starting

today it is illegal to unlock a subsidized phone or tablet that's bought
through a U.S. carrier.

Why now? Starting today, the U.S. Copyright Office and Library of 
Congress

are no longer allowing phone unlocking as an exemption under the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

You can read the full docket here but, in short, it is illegal to unlock 
a
phone from a carrier unless you have that carrier's permission to do so. 
If
you're wondering what this has to do with copyright, it turns out not 
much.


"It wasn't a good ruling," Rebecca Jeschke, a digital rights analyst at 
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), told ABC News. "You should be able 
to
unlock your phone. This law was meant to combat copyright infringement, 
not
to prevent people to do what they want to do with the device they 
bought."


Of course, the carriers prefer the new rule because it ties your phone to
their network. U.S. cellular carriers sell phones at a subsidized or
discounted rate with a contract. You pay the network for service on a
monthly basis and they give you the phone for a cheaper price than it
actually is worth.

When it was legal, people may have unlocked their phone to resell it when
they upgraded to a newer model or to use it with an overseas carrier and
take advantage of local rates when they traveled abroad.

If your phone has already been unlocked, you are grandfathered in and 
won't
face any legal issues. But what could happen if you unlocked your phon

Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the jailbreaking iOS six end up

2013-01-28 Thread Chris H

That's never going to happen because of hardware limitations.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 28/01/2013 06:35, Devin Prater wrote:

Will they finally be porting siri to the iPod 4th generation?

Sent from my iPod with iCloud

On 27 Jan 2013, at 10:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

You may not like it, but a lot of us do, thank you.  Was your comment really 
necessary?

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- Original Message - From: "Kerri" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: A little bit about iOS 6.1 release date, and the progress with the 
jailbreaking iOS six end up



Oh always siri, is that thing supposed to be the holy grail?

Kerri who is not a fan (nor have i) used it.
On 2013-01-27, at 3:12 PM, Scott Davert  wrote:


I suspect you will be disappointed in iOS 6.1 in terms of
accessibility enhancements. However, avid users of Siri will most
likely enjoy it from what I've read.

Scott

On 1/27/13, Michael Babcock  wrote:

I don't know, if you watch the video series, you learned that they
completely redesigned the entire utility. It is no longer the:
Redsn0w
Jailbreak utility because of some of the hardware changes Apple made on the
fours and later. However, one can hope that the process is as easy, if not
easier.
Michael


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On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Paul Erkens  wrote:


Hi Mike,

I hope jailbreaking will still be as simple as:
1. Hook up the phone to the mac or pc using the usb cable.
2. Start the jailbreak util.
3. Hit start and wait, then enjoy.
Do you think it'll still be that easy?

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Michael Babcock 
wrote:


It is, a lot of talking, but it has given me a good grasp of the
understanding of what's going on with iOS. Yes, you understand that the
same way that I do. I am kind of excited, simply to see what changes if
any invoice overcome with iOS 6.1. In addition, I am kind of a geek, and
I like to do weird things. Therefore, the intriguing idea of jailbreaking
my phone in iOS 6.1 is Very exciting, and I can't wait to see what can be
done with it. I will record a brief tutorial as soon as I get information
about how to jailbreak, that explains the jailbreaking process, and
demonstrates how it can potentially be done accessibly.
Here's to hoping that the software is accessible, I am working on writing
a blog posting and going to tweet that blog posting to this group. That
way, we can hope that they consider accessibility towards the beginning
of releasing it. At least, this is my hope.


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On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Paul Erkens  wrote:


Hi Michael,

So to summarize, ios 6.1 is just around the corner. Second, as soon as
that comes out, then shortly afterwards, it is likely that the
untethered jailbreak for ios 6.1 is ready as well. Did I miss anything
important? It's a lot of talking, isn't it? Smile.

Regards,
Paul.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Michael Babcock
 wrote:


 From what I am learning at the video below, Apple just released iOS
version 6.1, Beta number five. This beta version looks like the version
that Apple releases before they release a public version of their iOS
software. This means, Syria had Akley within the next week, we can hope
to have iOS six point one out.
This video also answers any questions related to jailbreaking iOS six:
http://youtu.be/Huho9Ps-hxY

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Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Danny Noonan
And in places like Australia, the only way to make a telco block a number is 
with a restraining order. That isn't easy enough to make it worth wile most 
times.

Danny:

On 28/01/2013, at 3:55 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:

> The only problem that arises with this, is some telephone companies sprint 
> for example, don't have the ability of actually blocking numbers. The 
> customer service representatives may actually tell you that they block the 
> numbers, but the way that their network runs, they don't have the ability of 
> blocking numbers. Check out an application called Mr. number. I'm not sure 
> about accessibility on iOS, but it's usable on android.
> 
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Mauricio Almeida  
> wrote:
> 
>> calling your telephone service provider and requesting that such be done.
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Krysti  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all is there a  app that will allow me to block numbers from texting me 
>>> or calling me If not how would I block numbers 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: program that will back up macintosh drive and bootcamp drive on osx?

2013-01-28 Thread Danny Noonan
Carbon Copy can make a bootable drive as well.

As for Snapshot, it always worked great until attempting to restore to a boot 
drive. My brother and I plus friends could never make it restore when it was 
esenchal. :-) What is nice though is that any backup can be accessed just like 
a folder. You can copy files from it etc all from with in Windows.

Danny:

On 27/01/2013, at 10:08 PM, Paul Erkens  wrote:

> Hey Hank,
> 
> You will need 2 separate programs to do this, as far as I'm aware, but a 
> cloner might be able to access your bootcamp partition as well. I don't use 
> bootcamp. Can you see your windows partition from within finder? Command 
> shift c takes you into a list of volumes accessible from finder. If so, then 
> a cloner like super duper, which has a free demo, and carbon copy cloner, 
> will be able to back that up as well. If you can not see your bootcamp 
> partition from within finder, then you will have to back that up from within 
> windows itself.
> 
> For windows, a very handy tool is called snapshot. It's at 
> www.drivesnapshot.de. It's a tiny, no nonsense utility, that makes an image 
> of your windows partition, and writes that out to a dot s n a file. After the 
> image has been created, you can do with the file what you want, i.e. move it 
> over to a usb stick etc. Snapshot is a demo, but it's not free, though very 
> accessible and worth having.
> 
> One thing I'm wondering about myself, is how you would restore any backup, 
> back into bootcamp. How would you boot into an operating system, from which 
> you can then run the restore utility? I don't know Hank, but maybe someone 
> else can chime in on this.
> 
> As far as your macintosh hd is concerned, you can always use super duper, 
> which makes a bootable backup, so that you can always boot off of the backup, 
> and then restore your entire macintosh hd partition back to your internal 
> drive from there.
> 
> Hth,
> Paul.
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:07 AM, hank smith  wrote:
> 
>> Hello I am looking for a back up program that will back both my macintosh 
>> drive and my bootcamp parttition to a external drive
>> is there such a beast that can do this and also allow me to restore both 
>> successfully?
>> Hank
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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-28 Thread Danny Noonan
Also, you can highlight a word with shift option left or right arrow, VO shift 
m for context menu and the first option is look up + the word highlighted , EG, 
I just selected "Context" so the option is "Look up Context".Choosing this lets 
you use dictionary, thesaurus or wikipedia. This is wonderful. Any word you 
want info on, bang. You write a word but find your using it too often, go look 
up the thesaurus for an alternate word choice. Google search is another option 
from the context menu so it's all very quick and easy.

My daughter says she has extra dictionaries on her school MacBook and I'd love 
to know where and how to get them. I'm always trying to remember what letters 
American words skip. :-)

Now I'm off to play with the dictionary. I want to see if you can add words etc.

Kind regards,
Danny:


On 27/01/2013, at 6:37 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

> Hi Kerri,
> 
> You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
> letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can 
> navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with 
> that, and browse to the dictionary app.
> Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and go 
> to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press enter. 
> Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html area. In 
> there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
> there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar to 
> the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so please 
> forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
> Hope that helps some,
> Rachel 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> hello, all. How do I access the dictionary on the mac both on the fly and 
>> using it as an application? I am totally senile as the podcast I have on the 
>> subject must e for a different or older operating system.
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Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-28 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Cheryl.
First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already started 
sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send both your 
federal and state at the same time. Although there are some issues with 
accessibility which I can further explain if you need to know, I have been 
using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this year. I finally figured the 
best way do it to make the process work better. 

If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready to send 
in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. However, I for 
one would be a little skeptical about doing that because it would be difficult 
if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of what you sent in. I guess 
our sighted friends get to look at the image before they send it in. (The state 
should be yelled at for doing it this way because it's not the best 
accessibility choice. It's been my experience, as a former blind IRS employee, 
that the federal systems are usually more accessible than the state's. At least 
that true for Texas.) 

If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do it if 
you make a mistake. If you get all the information together first so that you 
can input it all at once, the process is easier. Presumably you can do the same 
with the state information although I have not tried it since Texas doesn't 
have a state income tax. But I notice there is a choice for state questions and 
answers for putting in the information. 

I hope all this makes sense. If I can help you further, please ask. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking at the 
> process for my state. I see that after I get my acknowledgment back I have to 
> send them an attachment with files of my w2, rent certificate, and other 
> papers. I would imagine maybe the IRS requires this for the federal return 
> too. So I have two questions.
> 
> (1) Does anybody know whether the transfer mechanism for sending these files 
> is accessible on the Mac?
> 
> (2) Is this just a matter of scanning the files? My state says it accepts 
> tif, bmp, jpg and pdf files. But I'm wondering if just scanning them like I 
> do my mail and books is going to be okay or whether they could still receive 
> an attachment with unreadable files. I'd really like to be able to do this 
> but I sure don't want to make my tax experience a long, drawn-out one or have 
> to re-do everything and have to wait and wait for my refund.
> 
> Any input would be appreciated.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
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Re: Single user mode?

2013-01-28 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
That is all you would get from single user mode.  single user mode only has the 
very basic of programs running.  It will not even set up your network.  

So, you could run single user mode, configure the network with ifconfig 
commands. Start sshd and then start terminal on a second machine and ssh into 
the first machine.  I believe in your case however, you should just need to run 
startup diagnostics.

Best wishes,

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On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> . 
> I was trying to boot into single user mode just now, but instead of booting, 
> I got a screen with some text on it; that was all I could make out, that 
> their was probably some text on the screen and not my desktop. How do I 
> actually boot into this mode? I want to do this so I can test as much of my 
> ran as I can. Thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
I once saw a ringer that was a five second silence.  I never got it uploaded to 
my phone where I could see it, but I  do put in specific ring tones for some 
annoying callers.

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:

> And in places like Australia, the only way to make a telco block a number is 
> with a restraining order. That isn't easy enough to make it worth wile most 
> times.
> 
> Danny:
> 
> On 28/01/2013, at 3:55 AM, Michael Babcock  
> wrote:
> 
>> The only problem that arises with this, is some telephone companies sprint 
>> for example, don't have the ability of actually blocking numbers. The 
>> customer service representatives may actually tell you that they block the 
>> numbers, but the way that their network runs, they don't have the ability of 
>> blocking numbers. Check out an application called Mr. number. I'm not sure 
>> about accessibility on iOS, but it's usable on android.
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Mauricio Almeida  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> calling your telephone service provider and requesting that such be done.
>>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Krysti  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey all is there a  app that will allow me to block numbers from texting 
 me or calling me If not how would I block numbers 
 
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Re: Single user mode?

2013-01-28 Thread Richard Ring
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is single user mode?


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On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:35 AM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:

> That is all you would get from single user mode.  single user mode only has 
> the very basic of programs running.  It will not even set up your network.  
> 
> So, you could run single user mode, configure the network with ifconfig 
> commands. Start sshd and then start terminal on a second machine and ssh into 
> the first machine.  I believe in your case however, you should just need to 
> run startup diagnostics.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> jon.c.c...@gmail.com
> (703) 573-6956
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/JCCohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> . 
>> I was trying to boot into single user mode just now, but instead of booting, 
>> I got a screen with some text on it; that was all I could make out, that 
>> their was probably some text on the screen and not my desktop. How do I 
>> actually boot into this mode? I want to do this so I can test as much of my 
>> ran as I can. Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Single user mode?

2013-01-28 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Overview of Single user mode:
Think of DOS  in 1984. Or Apple 2  computers.

More details:

Single user mode is the mode where UNIX operating systems only have access 
enabled on the console and have just enough processes running so a sighted 
person can interact with the computer. If there are additional disk drives, 
network connections they are not started.  Essentially when the operating 
system startup gets to the point where daemons are started  it does not start 
those daemons but instead starts up a UNIX shell.  When  the UNIX shell is 
exited with command-D, then the rest of the operating system startup will be 
processed.  It is really only useful for running some specific utilities. In 
older UNIX systems where it was essential that there be multiple Disk drives 
present then when one of those essential disks failed automated boot checks the 
UNIX system would come up in single user mode.  

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RE: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

2013-01-28 Thread Scott Berry
Chris,

This is what I understand from Iblog.  It's fine to jail break but unlocking
the device is illegal.  They passed a law in 2010 to allow the jail breaking
of the devices.  But in turn this means that just cause they passed a law
the Apple technicians that work on the devices do not have to accept the
device with jail brokien code on it so the word is if you want your device
fixed just restore to the Apple stock firmware.





-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: January 28, 2013 1:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

So, then does that mean if I jailbroke, then used a tool to unlock via the
jailbreak it's illegal, or only if I do it through other means?

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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Babcock" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone


As of Saturday, January 26, 2013, it is illegal to unlock your cell phone 
for use on a different carrier. It is not illegal to jailbreak a device 
however.

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On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  
wrote:

> I'm confused. As far as I'm aware, unlocking and jailbreaking are entirely

> different processes. Unlocking allows you to use a phone with a different 
> carrier. Jailbreaking is a modification of the software on Iphones to 
> provide various features that aren't native to IOS. I don't get how 
> someone would know the phone is jailbroken, but it could be determined if 
> phones on unlocked, since they use carriers. So which is it that's 
> illegal?
>
> Teresa
>
>
> Visualize whirled peas.
>
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:27 PM, "David Tanner"  
> wrote:
>
>> No, it isn't.  I actually heard about it first on the evening news last 
>> Friday evening.  It is true, and I guess there can be fines and possibly 
>> jail time after multiple repeated occurances.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone
>>
>> This is ludicrus!  For one thing, it states in this mail that we're 
>> grandfathered in if we already unlocked.  Hmm, G, so how do they know if 
>> we did it a year ago, or if we did it just now?  And how would they prove

>> it?  I'm sorry, but I'm calling a bullshit on this one.  I'm not saying 
>> you, as the sender of this message to the list are wrong, but I wonder if

>> this is actually a hoax.
>>
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: David Tanner
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:08 AM
>> Subject: FW: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone
>>
>>
>>
>> From: IDevices [mailto:idevices-boun...@gatewayfortheblind.com] On Behalf

>> Of Trish Zoellers Scott
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:27 AM
>> To: Gateway IOS Devices
>> Subject: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From
>>
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319
>> 518
>> By JOANNA STERN
>>
>> You likely have a cellphone that you bought from a carrier, like AT&T,
>> Verizon or Sprint, and that phone only works on that carrier's cellular 
>> and
>> data network -- unless you "unlock" it.
>>
>> That is a software process that allows the phone to work on other 
>> carriers
>> if you put in a new SIM card or want to take the phone to another carrier
>> for service.
>>
>> If that sounds complicated to you and like something you wouldn't bother
>> with, then today's news won't matter to you. But if that's something 
>> you've
>> done before or have thought about doing, then you should know that 
>> starting
>> today it is illegal to unlock a subsidized phone or tablet that's bought
>> through a U.S. carrier.
>>
>> Why now? Starting today, the U.S. Copyright Office and Library of 
>> Congress
>> are no longer allowing phone unlocking as an exemption under the Digital
>> Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).
>>
>> You can read the full docket here but, in short, it is illegal to unlock 
>> a
>> phone from a carrier unless you have that carrier's permission to do so. 
>> If
>> you're wondering what this has to do with copyright, it turns out not 
>> much.
>>
>> "It wasn't a good ruling

Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
k, but that's still not gonna really be ideal, as I O S would read the 
caller ID, which could be disruptive.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan C. Cohn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone


I once saw a ringer that was a five second silence.  I never got it uploaded 
to my phone where I could see it, but I  do put in specific ring tones for 
some annoying callers.


Jonathan Cohn
jon.c.c...@gmail.com
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http://www.linkedin.com/in/JCCohn




On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:

And in places like Australia, the only way to make a telco block a number 
is with a restraining order. That isn't easy enough to make it worth wile 
most times.


Danny:

On 28/01/2013, at 3:55 AM, Michael Babcock  
wrote:


The only problem that arises with this, is some telephone companies 
sprint for example, don't have the ability of actually blocking numbers. 
The customer service representatives may actually tell you that they 
block the numbers, but the way that their network runs, they don't have 
the ability of blocking numbers. Check out an application called Mr. 
number. I'm not sure about accessibility on iOS, but it's usable on 
android.


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On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Mauricio Almeida 
 wrote:


calling your telephone service provider and requesting that such be 
done.

On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Krysti  wrote:

Hey all is there a  app that will allow me to block numbers from 
texting me or calling me If not how would I block numbers


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Re: Single user mode?

2013-01-28 Thread Richard Ring
Actually, it sounds a bit like safe mode.

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:51 AM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:

> Overview of Single user mode:
> Think of DOS  in 1984. Or Apple 2  computers.
> 
> More details:
> 
> Single user mode is the mode where UNIX operating systems only have access 
> enabled on the console and have just enough processes running so a sighted 
> person can interact with the computer. If there are additional disk drives, 
> network connections they are not started.  Essentially when the operating 
> system startup gets to the point where daemons are started  it does not start 
> those daemons but instead starts up a UNIX shell.  When  the UNIX shell is 
> exited with command-D, then the rest of the operating system startup will be 
> processed.  It is really only useful for running some specific utilities. In 
> older UNIX systems where it was essential that there be multiple Disk drives 
> present then when one of those essential disks failed automated boot checks 
> the UNIX system would come up in single user mode.  
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Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw the 
state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done anything yet 
except go through the forms manually and figure everything out as to refund 
amounts so I will know what I'm doing when I actually file. So if you input the 
information, which is certainly possible, does this eliminate the need to send 
attachments after receiving the acknowledgment of the receipt of your return or 
does Taxact do this for you? I definitely do intend to complain about the 
inaccessibility of this system; there is plenty of information on these 
documents that can be validated by directly inputting instead of having to send 
the attachment with scanned files.


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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
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On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Cheryl.
> First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already started 
> sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send both your 
> federal and state at the same time. Although there are some issues with 
> accessibility which I can further explain if you need to know, I have been 
> using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this year. I finally figured 
> the best way do it to make the process work better. 
> 
> If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready to 
> send in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. 
> However, I for one would be a little skeptical about doing that because it 
> would be difficult if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of what 
> you sent in. I guess our sighted friends get to look at the image before they 
> send it in. (The state should be yelled at for doing it this way because it's 
> not the best accessibility choice. It's been my experience, as a former blind 
> IRS employee, that the federal systems are usually more accessible than the 
> state's. At least that true for Texas.) 
> 
> If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
> information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do it if 
> you make a mistake. If you get all the information together first so that you 
> can input it all at once, the process is easier. Presumably you can do the 
> same with the state information although I have not tried it since Texas 
> doesn't have a state income tax. But I notice there is a choice for state 
> questions and answers for putting in the information. 
> 
> I hope all this makes sense. If I can help you further, please ask. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking at the 
>> process for my state. I see that after I get my acknowledgment back I have 
>> to send them an attachment with files of my w2, rent certificate, and other 
>> papers. I would imagine maybe the IRS requires this for the federal return 
>> too. So I have two questions.
>> 
>> (1) Does anybody know whether the transfer mechanism for sending these files 
>> is accessible on the Mac?
>> 
>> (2) Is this just a matter of scanning the files? My state says it accepts 
>> tif, bmp, jpg and pdf files. But I'm wondering if just scanning them like I 
>> do my mail and books is going to be okay or whether they could still receive 
>> an attachment with unreadable files. I'd really like to be able to do this 
>> but I sure don't want to make my tax experience a long, drawn-out one or 
>> have to re-do everything and have to wait and wait for my refund.
>> 
>> Any input would be appreciated.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
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Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Scott Davert
This won't help right now, but it may in the future.
I set up Google Voice and give everyone that number who I don't want
to have my actual number. Calls and texts can be run through that
number, and if someone is being annoying, I can just go in and block
them myself. Before, I used Skype and had calls forwarded to my phone
for the same reason, but with Google Talk, you can also do this with
SMS.

Scott

On 1/28/13, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> k, but that's still not gonna really be ideal, as I O S would read the
> caller ID, which could be disruptive.
>
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jonathan C. Cohn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone
>
>
> I once saw a ringer that was a five second silence.  I never got it uploaded
>
> to my phone where I could see it, but I  do put in specific ring tones for
> some annoying callers.
>
> Jonathan Cohn
> jon.c.c...@gmail.com
> (703) 573-6956
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/JCCohn
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:
>
>> And in places like Australia, the only way to make a telco block a number
>>
>> is with a restraining order. That isn't easy enough to make it worth wile
>>
>> most times.
>>
>> Danny:
>>
>> On 28/01/2013, at 3:55 AM, Michael Babcock 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The only problem that arises with this, is some telephone companies
>>> sprint for example, don't have the ability of actually blocking numbers.
>>>
>>> The customer service representatives may actually tell you that they
>>> block the numbers, but the way that their network runs, they don't have
>>> the ability of blocking numbers. Check out an application called Mr.
>>> number. I'm not sure about accessibility on iOS, but it's usable on
>>> android.
>>>
>>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Mauricio Almeida
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 calling your telephone service provider and requesting that such be
 done.
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Krysti  wrote:

> Hey all is there a  app that will allow me to block numbers from
> texting me or calling me If not how would I block numbers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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My medical info.

2013-01-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu



> 
>> This is free right now in the itunes store.
>> 
>> Not sure how well it works with vo tho as havent played much with it yet.
>> 
>> The description from the iTunes App Store says:
>> FREE for 1 Week Only (Normally $1.99)
>> Download the leading medical information app for FREE during this special 
>> New Year's promotion!
>> 
>> When filling out medical forms, how often have you guessed about 
>> medications, surgery dates, vaccinations or insurance information? Now you 
>> don't have
>> to. My Medical Info lets you easily organize all your health information in 
>> one place, where you can view it, update it and share it with your doctors.
>> Now you'll have all your basic medical information whenever you need it, and 
>> give your doctors the accurate information they need to provide the very best
>> care. Enjoy the peace of mind that knowledge brings. with My Medical Info.
>> 
>> With My Medical Info, you can quickly and easily:
>> 
>> - Generate medical profiles for your whole family.
>> 
>> - Organize all your family doctors and their contact information, including 
>> family physicians, specialists, dentists, pediatricians and other healthcare
>> professionals.
>> 
>> - Compile your medication and dosage information.
>> 
>> - Summarize your health history, including conditions, allergies and past 
>> hospitalizations.
>> 
>> - Set reminders for doctor appointments and for taking and refilling 
>> medications.
>> 
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>> the secure "Sync Profiles" feature.
>> 
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Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Blouch
AT&T sells a number blocking service but at $5/month that seems overly 
expensive.


http://www.att.net/smartcontrols-SmartLimitsForWireless

CB

On 1/28/13 9:16 AM, Scott Davert wrote:

This won't help right now, but it may in the future.
I set up Google Voice and give everyone that number who I don't want
to have my actual number. Calls and texts can be run through that
number, and if someone is being annoying, I can just go in and block
them myself. Before, I used Skype and had calls forwarded to my phone
for the same reason, but with Google Talk, you can also do this with
SMS.

Scott

On 1/28/13, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

k, but that's still not gonna really be ideal, as I O S would read the
caller ID, which could be disruptive.

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: App for blocking numbers iPhone


I once saw a ringer that was a five second silence.  I never got it uploaded

to my phone where I could see it, but I  do put in specific ring tones for
some annoying callers.

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:


And in places like Australia, the only way to make a telco block a number

is with a restraining order. That isn't easy enough to make it worth wile

most times.

Danny:

On 28/01/2013, at 3:55 AM, Michael Babcock 
wrote:


The only problem that arises with this, is some telephone companies
sprint for example, don't have the ability of actually blocking numbers.

The customer service representatives may actually tell you that they
block the numbers, but the way that their network runs, they don't have
the ability of blocking numbers. Check out an application called Mr.
number. I'm not sure about accessibility on iOS, but it's usable on
android.

http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Mauricio Almeida
 wrote:


calling your telephone service provider and requesting that such be
done.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Krysti  wrote:


Hey all is there a  app that will allow me to block numbers from
texting me or calling me If not how would I block numbers

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Single user mode?

2013-01-28 Thread Alex Hall
So, I assume I still have access to my user directory and the bin folder? I 
have memtest sitting in there, so I'd want to run it in single-user mode. I 
didn't realize it was a non-speaking shell, that explains a whole lot. I'll 
grab a sighted person and try it again then. Thanks.
On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> Actually, it sounds a bit like safe mode.
> 
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:51 AM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:
> 
>> Overview of Single user mode:
>> Think of DOS  in 1984. Or Apple 2  computers.
>> 
>> More details:
>> 
>> Single user mode is the mode where UNIX operating systems only have access 
>> enabled on the console and have just enough processes running so a sighted 
>> person can interact with the computer. If there are additional disk drives, 
>> network connections they are not started.  Essentially when the operating 
>> system startup gets to the point where daemons are started  it does not 
>> start those daemons but instead starts up a UNIX shell.  When  the UNIX 
>> shell is exited with command-D, then the rest of the operating system 
>> startup will be processed.  It is really only useful for running some 
>> specific utilities. In older UNIX systems where it was essential that there 
>> be multiple Disk drives present then when one of those essential disks 
>> failed automated boot checks the UNIX system would come up in single user 
>> mode.  
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Re: This new ram is, in a word, amazing!

2013-01-28 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

My machine here that I am using onoly supports up to 2 gb of ram.  Hope to have 
a new mnachine before long though.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Randy George wrote:

> I have eight on my MacBook Pro and love it. Combine that with a TB hard 
> drive, and all runs smoothly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Since I got my Mac in August of 2011 it has had 2gb of ram, and I didn't use 
>> it for a year because it was so slow. Finally, in May of 2012, I bit the 
>> bullet and got an adapter so I could hook up a screen, and that helped. By 
>> August I had switched to the mac as my primary machine, and I was feeling 
>> the pinch; if I used three apps I was okay, but switch to a fourth and 
>> things would slow down, or even switch to a new tab or window in an open app 
>> and I would get busy messages with much grinding of my poor hard drive. I 
>> was getting more and more frustrated, especially after I started playing 
>> with resource hogs like Garageband and Xcode.
>> 
>> Last week I bit another bullet and got myself 8gb of ram from Newegg.com. It 
>> arrived yesterday and I installed it in my mini; the only sighted help I 
>> needed was getting the plastic cover back over the Mini's access port, but I 
>> think I could have gotten it myself with more patience. To be fair, though, 
>> I have experience swapping out ram modules, so if you've never done this 
>> please find someone who has (and has done it successfully) to give you a 
>> hand. The mini's ram slots offer themselves up at an angle, and it is weird 
>> to figure out at first.
>> 
>> Anyway, I've now used this ram for a little while (I got home only an hour 
>> or so ago) and all I can say is.. WOW! Everything is snappy, there's no lag 
>> in switching Safari tabs or moving between open programs, and even my "say 
>> time" command is now almost immediate instead of taking the five seconds it 
>> used to. I have not yet run a full memory test on the new ram sticks, but 
>> only because Apple Hardware Test failed to pick up my wifi network 
>> (apparently some routers block access to computers running in diagnostic 
>> mode). So, I am still nervous when using the mac, waiting for something to 
>> crash or explode, but I'll test the ram as soon as I can so I can breathe 
>> easier. Bottom line though: if you have 2gb of ram like I did and your 
>> machine is able to accept user-replaced ram, treat yourself to 8gb (4gb was 
>> not much cheaper, and 8gb was the better buy). You will not regret it. Now, 
>> if anyone can tell me how to use my wifi with AHT, and/or boot into 
>> Single-user mode so I can run a memory test, I'd be home free!
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
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GA Request: The Hiding Place

2013-01-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Hello everyone,

Would anyone have "The Hiding Place," which is a novel written by Corrie ten 
Boom in its graphic audio dramatization?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-28 Thread Kerri
thanks so much and sorry to make you all repeat.
On 2013-01-28, at 1:31 AM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Also, you can highlight a word with shift option left or right arrow, VO 
> shift m for context menu and the first option is look up + the word 
> highlighted , EG, I just selected "Context" so the option is "Look up 
> Context".Choosing this lets you use dictionary, thesaurus or wikipedia. This 
> is wonderful. Any word you want info on, bang. You write a word but find your 
> using it too often, go look up the thesaurus for an alternate word choice. 
> Google search is another option from the context menu so it's all very quick 
> and easy.
> 
> My daughter says she has extra dictionaries on her school MacBook and I'd 
> love to know where and how to get them. I'm always trying to remember what 
> letters American words skip. :-)
> 
> Now I'm off to play with the dictionary. I want to see if you can add words 
> etc.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Danny:
> 
> 
> On 27/01/2013, at 6:37 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kerri,
>> 
>> You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
>> letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can 
>> navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with 
>> that, and browse to the dictionary app.
>> Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and go 
>> to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press enter. 
>> Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html area. In 
>> there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
>> there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar to 
>> the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so please 
>> forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
>> Hope that helps some,
>> Rachel 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> hello, all. How do I access the dictionary on the mac both on the fly and 
>>> using it as an application? I am totally senile as the podcast I have on 
>>> the subject must e for a different or older operating system.
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Re: it is possible to remote a mac with mountain lion

2013-01-28 Thread Søren Jensen
So, to clear things up, is it then possible to remotely control an other Mac 
using Voiceover with Teamviewer? Are there any settings there should be done so 
the sound of VOiceover comes from the computer you're controling?
Best regards:
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Den 28/01/2013 kl. 05.04 skrev Kerri :

> Hi, colin:
> 
> Then team viewer should work just fine.
> On 2013-01-27, at 6:22 PM, Red.Falcon  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi again!
>> I forgot to say before [and some people might want to know this]
>> When the other party was moving my mouse around VO was telling me what they 
>> were doing so I could keep track!
>> hth Colin
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2013, at 01:38, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> yes it is It is a bit of a track to grab the license you need to give the 
>>> party you want to connect too and vice versa but I did it recently and did 
>>> very well. It does work better if you can read the license key with a 
>>> Braille display but not required.
>>> On 2013-01-27, at 1:20 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>>> 
 Is this accessible with VO?  My team and I are looking for just a solution.
 
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> Hi, yes it is. I use team viewer which is free and does work well. 
> On 2013-01-27, at 10:27 AM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All
>> Is it possible to remote a mac with mountain lion.
>> I want to help my sighted friends with their mac computers with mountain 
>> Lion.
>> Thans in advance.
>> Best regards
>> Jorgen
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Re: GA Request: The Hiding Place

2013-01-28 Thread Scott Davert
I'm guessing you sent this to the wrong list? LOL.

Scott

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>
> Would anyone have "The Hiding Place," which is a novel written by Corrie ten
> Boom in its graphic audio dramatization?
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> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello list,

I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.

hth

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the amazing slowdowner for IPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Tammy
Hi,

Was wondering how this program worked with vo?  I have it and played around a 
bit but haven’t gotten any reproducible results yet.  I see the 3 sliders and 
can slide them with vo off but obviously that doesn’t really work so well, soo 
if someone could help me with it I’d appreciate it. 

thanks,

Tammy

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Re: the amazing slowdowner for IPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Alex Hall
Double tap and hold on the sliders, then move your finger back and forth. It is 
a little bit diddly, but it will work.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2013, at 13:16, "Tammy"  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Was wondering how this program worked with vo?  I have it and played around a 
> bit but haven’t gotten any reproducible results yet.  I see the 3 sliders and 
> can slide them with vo off but obviously that doesn’t really work so well, 
> soo if someone could help me with it I’d appreciate it.
>  
> thanks,
>  
> Tammy
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Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Blouch

A nice summary of the situation here:

http://www.techhive.com/article/2026236/phone-unlocking-ban-could-could-hit-you-in-the-wallet.html

CB

On 1/28/13 7:55 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

Chris,

This is what I understand from Iblog.  It's fine to jail break but unlocking
the device is illegal.  They passed a law in 2010 to allow the jail breaking
of the devices.  But in turn this means that just cause they passed a law
the Apple technicians that work on the devices do not have to accept the
device with jail brokien code on it so the word is if you want your device
fixed just restore to the Apple stock firmware.





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Gilland
Sent: January 28, 2013 1:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

So, then does that mean if I jailbroke, then used a tool to unlock via the
jailbreak it's illegal, or only if I do it through other means?

Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Babcock" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone


As of Saturday, January 26, 2013, it is illegal to unlock your cell phone
for use on a different carrier. It is not illegal to jailbreak a device
however.

http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Teresa Cochran 
wrote:


I'm confused. As far as I'm aware, unlocking and jailbreaking are entirely
different processes. Unlocking allows you to use a phone with a different
carrier. Jailbreaking is a modification of the software on Iphones to
provide various features that aren't native to IOS. I don't get how
someone would know the phone is jailbroken, but it could be determined if
phones on unlocked, since they use carriers. So which is it that's
illegal?

Teresa


Visualize whirled peas.

On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:27 PM, "David Tanner" 
wrote:


No, it isn't.  I actually heard about it first on the evening news last
Friday evening.  It is true, and I guess there can be fines and possibly
jail time after multiple repeated occurances.



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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone

This is ludicrus!  For one thing, it states in this mail that we're
grandfathered in if we already unlocked.  Hmm, G, so how do they know if
we did it a year ago, or if we did it just now?  And how would they prove
it?  I'm sorry, but I'm calling a bullshit on this one.  I'm not saying
you, as the sender of this message to the list are wrong, but I wonder if
this is actually a hoax.

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:08 AM
Subject: FW: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone



From: IDevices [mailto:idevices-boun...@gatewayfortheblind.com] On Behalf
Of Trish Zoellers Scott
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:27 AM
To: Gateway IOS Devices
Subject: [IDevices] It's Now Illegal to Unlock Your Phone




From


http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319

518
By JOANNA STERN

You likely have a cellphone that you bought from a carrier, like AT&T,
Verizon or Sprint, and that phone only works on that carrier's cellular
and
data network -- unless you "unlock" it.

That is a software process that allows the phone to work on other
carriers
if you put in a new SIM card or want to take the phone to another carrier
for service.

If that sounds complicated to you and like something you wouldn't bother
with, then today's news won't matter to you. But if that's something
you've
done before or have thought about doing, then you should know that
starting
today it is illegal to unlock a subsidized phone or tablet that's bought
through a U.S. carrier.

Why now? Starting today, the U.S. Copyright Office and Library of
Congress
are no longer allowing phone unlocking as an exemption under the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

You can read the full docket here but, in short, it is illegal to unlock
a
phone from a carrier unless you have that carrier's permission to do so.
If
you're wondering what this has to do with copyright, it turns out not
much.

"It wasn't a good ruling," Rebecca Jeschke, a digital rights analyst at
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)

Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Babcock
Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us, in my 
opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.

http://empoweringtheblind.com
Empowering the blind, one step at a time.


On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hello list,
> 
> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: program that will back up macintosh drive and bootcamp drive on osx?

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Blouch
Time machine is a file-copy backup solution which means it has to have 
the OS running to read the files and stash them away. If you want to 
backup multiple partitions and partitions that are not OSX format then 
you're going to need a disk-based backup that just reads the raw blocks 
and mirrors them elsewhere. Probably Carbon Copy Cloner. The CCC FAQ 
says it will backup a bootcamp partition but it won't be a bootable backup:


http://help.bombich.com/kb/troubleshooting/can-ccc-back-up-my-bootcamp-windows-partition

They point to some windows backup software to run on that side.

CB

On 1/27/13 2:34 AM, Chris H wrote:
I wonder if Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner can do this. Time 
Machine which is built in may even do this.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 27/01/2013 05:07, hank smith wrote:

Hello I am looking for a back up program that will back both my
macintosh drive and my bootcamp parttition to a external drive
is there such a beast that can do this and also allow me to restore both
successfully?
Hank





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Re: a good merging utility and audio question

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Blouch
If you don't mind playing around in the command line you might want to 
install the Sox sound editing system through MacPorts which can play, 
record, merge and all kinds of stuff all via typed commands.


http://sox.sourceforge.net

CB

On 1/27/13 8:35 PM, Kerri wrote:

Hello to all those people who are audio fanatics on this list. What is a good 
program to merge files? Also, if and when they ever get Java rectified so I can 
return to tc conferencing, what is a good way to play music through my sound 
card in the room and mute the microphone? On my pc I use what is called stereo 
mix (windows 7) to accomplish this. I downloaded something called sound flower 
but have a distinct feeling it is the wrong program. Thanks and have a great 
day.



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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-28 Thread Esther
Hello Danny and Kerri,

First of all, you can access multiple dictionaries on your Mac. If you
open the Dictionary app using any of the ways Rachel described
earlier, such as using spotlight (Command-space bar, then type the
first few letters of the app, such as "d i c t" and press return) or
from Finder, by using the Command-Shift-a shortcut to move to the
applications folder, again typing the first few letters of the app you
want, like "d i" to move to the app, then pressing Command-down arrow
to open, you can open your preferences menu for that app with the
Command-comma shortcut.  Under your app preferences you can check
boxes for any of the dictionaries that you want enabled.  For example,
while the New Oxford American Dictionary is selected for U.S. users, I
can also check the box for the Oxford English Dictionary which uses
British English conventions. Mountain Lion also added a large number
of dictionaries in other languages. Once you've checked any additional
dictionaries you want added, close the preferences window with Command-
w.   Now any additional dictionary or thesaurus that you've checked
will appear as additional sources you can check, along with the your
default dictionary, thesaurus, Wikipedia, etc.

However, if you only want to check "what letters American words skip",
you don't need to add other dictionaries to look this up.  Highlight
the word you want to look up using Option-Shift-Right or Left Arrow as
previously stated, but when you bring up the context menu with VO-
Shift-M you want to show spellings and grammar.  That window has a pop
up menu button that you can navigate to and change from "Automatic by
Language" to specific languages like "U.S. English", "Australian
English", or "British English".  You can also move to the last entry
with Command-Down arrow and, if you were typing in TextEdit, choose
"Open Text Preferences" to set the specific language pop-up button you
want to use for spelling.  (I have multiple languages and voices set
up on my Mac, so my settings may not be typical.)  You probably don't
want to change your preferences permanently to look up alternate
spellings, though.  And there's also a "Learn" button in the previous
spelling and grammar window if you want to add words or abbreviations
and not have them flagged by the spell checker.

The Multilingual Mac blog posted on Sunday that as of OS X 10.8.2, the
Dictionary.app has modules for US English, British English, French,
German, Spanish, Japanese, and Simplified Chinese, and provided links
to a few sites for adding other (language) dictionaries. (Not all
these sites are in English, and some of the modules may not be up to
date.) Here's the link to the article:
• Adding Dictionaries to Dictionary.app
http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2013/01/adding-dictionaries-to-dictionaryapp.html

HTH. Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 27, 11:31 pm, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> Also, you can highlight a word with shift option left or right arrow, VO 
> shift m for context menu and the first option is look up + the word 
> highlighted , EG, I just selected "Context" so the option is "Look up 
> Context".Choosing this lets you use dictionary, thesaurus or wikipedia. This 
> is wonderful. Any word you want info on, bang. You write a word but find your 
> using it too often, go look up the thesaurus for an alternate word choice. 
> Google search is another option from the context menu so it's all very quick 
> and easy.
>
> My daughter says she has extra dictionaries on her school MacBook and I'd 
> love to know where and how to get them. I'm always trying to remember what 
> letters American words skip. :-)
>
> Now I'm off to play with the dictionary. I want to see if you can add words 
> etc.
>
> Kind regards,
> Danny:
>
> On 27/01/2013, at 6:37 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Kerri,
>
> > You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
> > letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can 
> > navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with 
> > that, and browse to the dictionary app.
> > Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and 
> > go to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press 
> > enter. Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html 
> > area. In there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
> > there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar 
> > to the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so 
> > please forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
> > Hope that helps some,
> > Rachel
> > On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Kerri  wrote:
>
> >> hello, all. How do I access the dictionary on the mac both on the fly and 
> >> using it as an application? I am totally senile as the podcast I have on 
> >> the subject must e for a different or older operating system.
>

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Creating mail filters

2013-01-28 Thread Agent086b
Hello all, I have asked this in the past but have now forgotten . 
How do I create a filter in Mail to send messages to a particular Mailbox?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: the amazing slowdowner for IPhone

2013-01-28 Thread Danny Noonan
I found it quite good with vo. I wrote a little review on the blind-guitarist 
list that may show up on google. 

It's been a while but from memory the sliders are like some position sliders. 
Double tap and hold and with out lifting your finger off, moving left or right 
moves from low to high or along the timeline and moving up or down sets how 
small or large an increment you move. 

Have a play with the sliders and if it doesn't make sence, I'll play with the 
app and write proper instructions. 

Danny. 



Sent from my iPhone

On 29/01/2013, at 5:16 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Was wondering how this program worked with vo?  I have it and played around a 
> bit but haven’t gotten any reproducible results yet.  I see the 3 sliders and 
> can slide them with vo off but obviously that doesn’t really work so well, 
> soo if someone could help me with it I’d appreciate it.
>  
> thanks,
>  
> Tammy
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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-28 Thread Danny Noonan
You need a tip jar. :-). You know and share so much. 

Thanks. 

Danny 



Sent from my iPhone

On 29/01/2013, at 7:22 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hello Danny and Kerri,
> 
> First of all, you can access multiple dictionaries on your Mac. If you
> open the Dictionary app using any of the ways Rachel described
> earlier, such as using spotlight (Command-space bar, then type the
> first few letters of the app, such as "d i c t" and press return) or
> from Finder, by using the Command-Shift-a shortcut to move to the
> applications folder, again typing the first few letters of the app you
> want, like "d i" to move to the app, then pressing Command-down arrow
> to open, you can open your preferences menu for that app with the
> Command-comma shortcut.  Under your app preferences you can check
> boxes for any of the dictionaries that you want enabled.  For example,
> while the New Oxford American Dictionary is selected for U.S. users, I
> can also check the box for the Oxford English Dictionary which uses
> British English conventions. Mountain Lion also added a large number
> of dictionaries in other languages. Once you've checked any additional
> dictionaries you want added, close the preferences window with Command-
> w.   Now any additional dictionary or thesaurus that you've checked
> will appear as additional sources you can check, along with the your
> default dictionary, thesaurus, Wikipedia, etc.
> 
> However, if you only want to check "what letters American words skip",
> you don't need to add other dictionaries to look this up.  Highlight
> the word you want to look up using Option-Shift-Right or Left Arrow as
> previously stated, but when you bring up the context menu with VO-
> Shift-M you want to show spellings and grammar.  That window has a pop
> up menu button that you can navigate to and change from "Automatic by
> Language" to specific languages like "U.S. English", "Australian
> English", or "British English".  You can also move to the last entry
> with Command-Down arrow and, if you were typing in TextEdit, choose
> "Open Text Preferences" to set the specific language pop-up button you
> want to use for spelling.  (I have multiple languages and voices set
> up on my Mac, so my settings may not be typical.)  You probably don't
> want to change your preferences permanently to look up alternate
> spellings, though.  And there's also a "Learn" button in the previous
> spelling and grammar window if you want to add words or abbreviations
> and not have them flagged by the spell checker.
> 
> The Multilingual Mac blog posted on Sunday that as of OS X 10.8.2, the
> Dictionary.app has modules for US English, British English, French,
> German, Spanish, Japanese, and Simplified Chinese, and provided links
> to a few sites for adding other (language) dictionaries. (Not all
> these sites are in English, and some of the modules may not be up to
> date.) Here's the link to the article:
> • Adding Dictionaries to Dictionary.app
> http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2013/01/adding-dictionaries-to-dictionaryapp.html
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 11:31 pm, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> Also, you can highlight a word with shift option left or right arrow, VO 
>> shift m for context menu and the first option is look up + the word 
>> highlighted , EG, I just selected "Context" so the option is "Look up 
>> Context".Choosing this lets you use dictionary, thesaurus or wikipedia. This 
>> is wonderful. Any word you want info on, bang. You write a word but find 
>> your using it too often, go look up the thesaurus for an alternate word 
>> choice. Google search is another option from the context menu so it's all 
>> very quick and easy.
>> 
>> My daughter says she has extra dictionaries on her school MacBook and I'd 
>> love to know where and how to get them. I'm always trying to remember what 
>> letters American words skip. :-)
>> 
>> Now I'm off to play with the dictionary. I want to see if you can add words 
>> etc.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Danny:
>> 
>> On 27/01/2013, at 6:37 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Kerri,
>> 
>>> You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
>>> letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can 
>>> navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with 
>>> that, and browse to the dictionary app.
>>> Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and 
>>> go to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press 
>>> enter. Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html 
>>> area. In there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
>>> there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar 
>>> to the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so 
>>> please forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
>>> Hope that helps some,
>>> Rachel
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Ker

Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Brian Fischler
Has anyone installed the update yet and noticed a big battery drain
issue? I thought I recalled reading that when the update came out for
the Iphone 5 there was a major issue about battery life being even
worse. I am using the 4S and am a little hesitant to update.

On Jan 28, 2:18 pm, Michael Babcock 
wrote:
> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us, in 
> my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
>
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello list,
>
> > I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
> > iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>
> > hth
>
> > Ricardo Walker
> > rica...@appletothecore.info
> > Twitter:@apple2thecore
> >www.appletothecore.info
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Mauricio Almeida
I just updated myself.
we'll see what happens.

mauricio
On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Has anyone installed the update yet and noticed a big battery drain
> issue? I thought I recalled reading that when the update came out for
> the Iphone 5 there was a major issue about battery life being even
> worse. I am using the 4S and am a little hesitant to update.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2:18 pm, Michael Babcock 
> wrote:
>> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us, in 
>> my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>> 
>>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
>>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>> 
>>> hth
>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I've been running the build and haven't noticed any change either way with 
respect to battery performance. They have fixed issues pertaining to the 
labelling of buttons and graphics. On the Apple TV side, the ability to use a 
Bluetooth keyboard is great.
Jonathan
On 29/01/2013, at 9:41 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Has anyone installed the update yet and noticed a big battery drain
> issue? I thought I recalled reading that when the update came out for
> the Iphone 5 there was a major issue about battery life being even
> worse. I am using the 4S and am a little hesitant to update.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2:18 pm, Michael Babcock 
> wrote:
>> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us, in 
>> my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>> 
>>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
>>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>> 
>>> hth
>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread J.P.
They have seemed to fix one of the worst things about 6. You can rename files 
again. That bug was driving me nuts!

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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

Honestly, I've been using an IOS device since 2009, when 3.0 was released.  
Ever since then, I've read or, come across 1 report that mentioned some battery 
draining issue.  I'm not saying the bug has never existed for some people on, 
some devices.  But, I honestly don't remember it ever being a big issue except 
for the standby bug where devices weren't properly going into standby.  

I really wouldn't worry about it.  You can question 5 people about battery life 
and get 5 different responses.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Has anyone installed the update yet and noticed a big battery drain
> issue? I thought I recalled reading that when the update came out for
> the Iphone 5 there was a major issue about battery life being even
> worse. I am using the 4S and am a little hesitant to update.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2:18 pm, Michael Babcock 
> wrote:
>> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us, in 
>> my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>> 
>>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
>>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>> 
>>> hth
>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: Accessible Mac file recovery utilities?

2013-01-28 Thread Maurice Mines
Hello Darrell when will we have the next VMware users group get together? I 
know that this is somewhat off-topic for this thread, but I don't have your 
correct email address. My testing, use of Windows 8 professional in my virtual 
machine is going well with JAWS, window eyes, and in VDA. Note with my severe 
hearing loss in BDA is barely understandable. And if I had to use it I probably 
couldn't do it with my current level of hearing. Also a general question for 
the list, does anyone have any good suggestions for how to teach an 81-year-old 
who apparently is newly blinded how to use an iPhone? I'm looking for 
suggestions? Please forgive my posting somewhat off-topic? Have a great day 
everybody.Sincerely Maurice, secretary national Federation of the blind of 
Washington Clark County Chapter. Amateur radio call sign, kd0iko. Phone 
360-524-0791. Email address kd0...@icloud.com.
On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Which ones did you test so we'll know to avoid them?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Darrell Shandrow  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I've tested four different trial versions of file recovery tools today, only 
>> to find they're not VoiceOver accessible.
>> 
>> Does anyone out here use an effective, accessible tool for undeleting files 
>> in Mac OS X?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Darrell
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how do I remove a mailbox from my favorites bar in apple mail?

2013-01-28 Thread Christina C.
Hi, 

Can someone please help me figure out how to take a mailbox out of my favorites 
bar in apple mail. I  am thinking there is some kind of dragging the mailbox 
off but I don't know who to do that with VO.

Thanks so much!
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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VoiceOver online html manual for iPhone4

2013-01-28 Thread Phil Halton
Could someone please send me a link to the manual for VoiceOver in html format 
for the iPhone IOS 5.1 or whatever the latest IOS version is.

thanks

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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Kerri
I'm updating both my iPad and iPhone right now as we speak.
On 2013-01-28, at 11:18 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:

> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us, in 
> my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
> 
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available on 
>> iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
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music notation prospect.

2013-01-28 Thread Karen Lewellen


No idea if anyone has tested this yet.  Still lilypond,

www.lilypond.org

is available for mac os x now.
the program uses the keyboard entirely to create professional quality 
sheet music.

 Worth considering for those seeking this.
Karen

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Re: music notation prospect.

2013-01-28 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

Can it be used with VoiceOver? Is there any programs that can work with braille 
music on the mac? Can I in this program write the notes, and get them played 
afterwards.

Best regards Annie.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> 
> No idea if anyone has tested this yet.  Still lilypond,
> 
> www.lilypond.org
> 
> is available for mac os x now.
> the program uses the keyboard entirely to create professional quality sheet 
> music.
> Worth considering for those seeking this.
> Karen
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RE: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Scott Berry
I updated my Ipad 2.



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kerri
Sent: January 28, 2013 17:16
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.1 is available

I'm updating both my iPad and iPhone right now as we speak.
On 2013-01-28, at 11:18 AM, Michael Babcock 
wrote:

> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us,
in my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
> 
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available
on iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: how do I remove a mailbox from my favorites bar in apple mail?

2013-01-28 Thread Alex Hall
Move vo to the mailbox in the favorites bar, then route the mouse
there (vo-cmd-f5). Disable cursor tracking with vo-shift-f3, then lock
the mouse down with vo-cmd-shift-space. Move vo to somewhere in the
mail window that has nothing in it, like a splitter, and route the
mouse again, then unlock the mouse button with another press of
vo-cmd-shift-space. That should do it, but if it fails, close Mail and
re-open it, then try again. Also, don't forget to turn cursor tracking
back on with vo-shift-f3.

On 1/28/13, Christina C.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can someone please help me figure out how to take a mailbox out of my
> favorites bar in apple mail. I  am thinking there is some kind of dragging
> the mailbox off but I don't know who to do that with VO.
>
> Thanks so much!
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
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Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this 
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV, 
2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see 
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and 
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I 
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the 
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity, 
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed 
to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though, 
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely! 
extremely! tedious process, so beware.


Chris.

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RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Kliphton
My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes the
rebooting of the device.

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Gilland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
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Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely! 
extremely! tedious process, so beware.

Chris.

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Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Dave
Yeah, mine doesn't take anywhere that long. I have 2 3rd gens and 1 2nd gen, 
and both updated in under 15 minutes.



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Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S

2013-01-28 Thread Krysti
Chris when I got the phone IOS 6 was on it 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-01-28, at 12:13 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> For one thing, this is why you don't update until you know there is a 
> jailbreak available for the update, and more importantly that doesn't it 
> doesn't screw with your baseband.
> 
> Generally, unless it's untethered, I won't do it.  If you were trying to do 
> the 3GS, then I could a helped you definitely, as I've very very successfully 
> done it with one of those devices.  Granted, it wasn't runniong I O S 6, it 
> was only on 5, at that time, but! bottom line is, it did work.
> 
> What I'll say, is do a search for
> 
> Redsn0w.
> 
> basically thing red snow as all one word, only the letter o before the w is 
> actually the number 0, not the letter o.  r e d, s n 0! w.
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
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> - Original Message - From: "Mauricio Almeida" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S
> 
> 
>> well, there probably is. my question to you is though why youw ould do such 
>> a thing if it messes your ability of gaining support from apple in addition 
>> to making you lose all your jail break data every time you update your IOS?
>> 
>> mauricio
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Krysti  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey is there anyway I can jailbreak my iPhone 4S running ios 6
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on my 
end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It was 
craziness!


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- Original Message - 
From: "Kliphton" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes 
the

rebooting of the device.

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Gilland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
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Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an 
extremely!

extremely! tedious process, so beware.

Chris.

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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Really bizarre.  OK, I'm sorry then for the warning.  Does anyone know then 
on my end what may be going on?  This update, and the last before did this 
same thing.  No, it's not the network, I don't think, as downloads on all my 
other devices both Apple and there not are absolutely flying like a bottle 
rocket!


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- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


Yeah, mine doesn't take anywhere that long. I have 2 3rd gens and 1 2nd 
gen, and both updated in under 15 minutes.



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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread John Panarese
   It might just be a connection issue at that time.  It took me about fifteen 
minutes for both on mine, but I have a friend who had a similar experience as 
you.  It took him almost forty-five minutes, I think.  It's a good warning to 
pass along.  Some people might disconnect or restart the Apple TV.


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On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on my 
> end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It was 
> craziness!
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message - From: "Kliphton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
> Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
> 
> 
>> My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes the
>> rebooting of the device.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
>> 
>> OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
>> update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
>> 2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
>> this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
>> hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
>> promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
>> thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
>> literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
>> to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
>> again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely!
>> extremely! tedious process, so beware.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread David McLean
Can't comment on Apple TV since I don't have one but my iPads took only about 
15 mins to complete and my iPod took well over an hour, all on the same network 
with a couple of iPads being further way from the router than the iPod.
Very curious.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on my 
> end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It was 
> craziness!
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message - From: "Kliphton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
> Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
> 
> 
>> My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes the
>> rebooting of the device.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
>> 
>> OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
>> update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
>> 2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
>> this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
>> hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
>> promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
>> thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
>> literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
>> to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
>> again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely!
>> extremely! tedious process, so beware.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Eric Brinkman
I am having the same problem. It's been at around 65% for a good two hours. I 
am going to go to sleep now and hope it will be finished in the morning.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:49 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> Really bizarre.  OK, I'm sorry then for the warning.  Does anyone know then 
> on my end what may be going on?  This update, and the last before did this 
> same thing.  No, it's not the network, I don't think, as downloads on all my 
> other devices both Apple and there not are absolutely flying like a bottle 
> rocket!
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
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> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
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> - Original Message - From: "Dave" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
> 
> 
>> Yeah, mine doesn't take anywhere that long. I have 2 3rd gens and 1 2nd gen, 
>> and both updated in under 15 minutes.
>> 
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Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

oh, ok, then you probably didn't until now have the option.  Smile.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Krysti" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S


Chris when I got the phone IOS 6 was on it

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-01-28, at 12:13 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


For one thing, this is why you don't update until you know there is a 
jailbreak available for the update, and more importantly that doesn't it 
doesn't screw with your baseband.


Generally, unless it's untethered, I won't do it.  If you were trying to 
do the 3GS, then I could a helped you definitely, as I've very very 
successfully done it with one of those devices.  Granted, it wasn't 
runniong I O S 6, it was only on 5, at that time, but! bottom line is, it 
did work.


What I'll say, is do a search for

Redsn0w.

basically thing red snow as all one word, only the letter o before the w 
is actually the number 0, not the letter o.  r e d, s n 0! w.


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- Original Message - From: "Mauricio Almeida" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S


well, there probably is. my question to you is though why youw ould do 
such a thing if it messes your ability of gaining support from apple in 
addition to making you lose all your jail break data every time you 
update your IOS?


mauricio
On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Krysti  wrote:


Hey is there anyway I can jailbreak my iPhone 4S running ios 6

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
yeah, ok, but this has happened twice and both times it took about 2 hours. 
I literally timed it.  This isn't just an excitement thing, you want your 
new toy, now, and now means now!  No, this thing literally speaking went 
from about 6 tonight and finally around 8 or 8 15ish finnished up.  You 
really think it could be a connection issue, seeing my other devices all, pc 
or not are fine, and that it did this twice on this and the last update, 
and! the fact it wasn't just 45 min as you say but was more about 2 or so 
hours?  Seems a little too coencidental to me.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not 
doubting you, John, it just seems odd to me that it did this twice like 
that.  Ya know?  Anyway, such is life, I guess.


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- Original Message - 
From: "John Panarese" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


  It might just be a connection issue at that time.  It took me about 
fifteen minutes for both on mine, but I have a friend who had a similar 
experience as you.  It took him almost forty-five minutes, I think.  It's a 
good warning to pass along.  Some people might disconnect or restart the 
Apple TV.



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On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on my 
end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It was 
craziness!


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Founder of CLG Productions
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- Original Message - From: "Kliphton" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes 
the

rebooting of the device.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple 
TV,

2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically 
seemed

to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an 
extremely!

extremely! tedious process, so beware.

Chris.

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Founder of CLG Productions
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E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
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Updating firmware was: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hmm, haven't yet done an I, Pod! but I have! done an IPad, and IPad Mini, an 
IPhone 4S, and an IPhone 5.  All of them seemed to go... well... not real 
real quick, but definitely at a tolerable speed.  I didn't time it, 
honestly, but I'd say they all tok somewhere in the neighborhood of maybe 
15're so  minutes over a wifi connection.  I wonder if it makes a difference 
if you've plugged via u s b or not.  I'd not think so, but it may.


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- Original Message - 
From: "David McLean" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


Can't comment on Apple TV since I don't have one but my iPads took only 
about 15 mins to complete and my iPod took well over an hour, all on the 
same network with a couple of iPads being further way from the router than 
the iPod.

Very curious.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on 
my end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It 
was craziness!


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- Original Message - From: "Kliphton" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes 
the

rebooting of the device.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple 
TV,

2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all 
eternity,
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically 
seemed

to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an 
extremely!

extremely! tedious process, so beware.

Chris.

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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Here's wishing you luck.  Don't pannick.  It'll go, it just may take a bit. 
Let us know how you come out in the long run.  I, for one, at least, would 
be interested in your findings.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Brinkman" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


I am having the same problem. It's been at around 65% for a good two hours. 
I am going to go to sleep now and hope it will be finished in the morning.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:49 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


Really bizarre.  OK, I'm sorry then for the warning.  Does anyone know 
then on my end what may be going on?  This update, and the last before did 
this same thing.  No, it's not the network, I don't think, as downloads on 
all my other devices both Apple and there not are absolutely flying like a 
bottle rocket!


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- Original Message - From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!


Yeah, mine doesn't take anywhere that long. I have 2 3rd gens and 1 2nd 
gen, and both updated in under 15 minutes.



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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread John Panarese
   It's really just a guess more than anything else, to be honest.  What I do 
also is I actually connect my Apple TV to my Apple Time Capsule directly via an 
ethernet cable instead of using the wireless method for updates.  I don't know 
if it makes a difference or not, but it's how I was advised to do it when I 
first got my Apple TV.


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On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:03 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:

> yeah, ok, but this has happened twice and both times it took about 2 hours. I 
> literally timed it.  This isn't just an excitement thing, you want your new 
> toy, now, and now means now!  No, this thing literally speaking went from 
> about 6 tonight and finally around 8 or 8 15ish finnished up.  You really 
> think it could be a connection issue, seeing my other devices all, pc or not 
> are fine, and that it did this twice on this and the last update, and! the 
> fact it wasn't just 45 min as you say but was more about 2 or so hours?  
> Seems a little too coencidental to me.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting 
> you, John, it just seems odd to me that it did this twice like that.  Ya 
> know?  Anyway, such is life, I guess.
> 
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> Founder of CLG Productions
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> - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
> 
> 
>  It might just be a connection issue at that time.  It took me about fifteen 
> minutes for both on mine, but I have a friend who had a similar experience as 
> you.  It took him almost forty-five minutes, I think.  It's a good warning to 
> pass along.  Some people might disconnect or restart the Apple TV.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> Director
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> On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on my 
>> end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It was 
>> craziness!
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message - From: "Kliphton" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
>> Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
>> 
>> 
>>> My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes the
>>> rebooting of the device.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>>> Gilland
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
>>> 
>>> OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
>>> update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
>>> 2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
>>> this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
>>> hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
>>> promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
>>> thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
>>> literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
>>> to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
>>> again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely!
>>> extremely! tedious process, so beware.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> Chris Gilland.
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>>> 
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Time Capsule

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

What exactly is a Time Capsule anyway?  I hear they are absolutely awesome!

Chris.

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Re: Time Capsule

2013-01-28 Thread John Panarese
The Time Capsule is the Higher end Apple router.  It's basically an Extreme 
Base Station that has a 2 or 3 TB HD built into it.  I bought one so I could 
Time Machine backup my Mac Mini and Mac Book Pro wirelessly onto a single disk. 
 I also have an external 3 TB drive connected to the TC as an Air Disk for 
additonal backup purposes and file storage.


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 wrote:

> What exactly is a Time Capsule anyway?  I hear they are absolutely awesome!
> 
> Chris.
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Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I'm on

www.acapelagroup.com

I'm trying to find where in the hell! you go to buy any of the voices, more 
specifically the texan country Mikah voice for the Mac.  This is driving me 
up the frickin wall!  I'm looking all over the site and no matter how hard I 
look, nor how hard I google I cannot for the life of me find a link to get 
the price nor purchase and download.


Please can someone give me a hand before I go bawld over here from losing 
all my hair?


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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Babcock
Another thing to consider prior to considering that it could be an issue on 
your end, is the time that you actually perform the update. For example, if for 
example 10,000 people were downloading the update well you started the update, 
it may go fast and tell 70,000 people connect at about 65% of your download. 
This will densest slow your download down. Just something to consider.

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:51 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>   It might just be a connection issue at that time.  It took me about fifteen 
> minutes for both on mine, but I have a friend who had a similar experience as 
> you.  It took him almost forty-five minutes, I think.  It's a good warning to 
> pass along.  Some people might disconnect or restart the Apple TV.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
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> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Wow!  That is really shocking.  I wonder what might be going on then on my 
>> end, as the last two updates took literally! over 2 darned hours.  It was 
>> craziness!
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message - From: "Kliphton" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:24 PM
>> Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
>> 
>> 
>>> My update on my apple tv 3rd gen only took 15 minutes, and that includes the
>>> rebooting of the device.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>>> Gilland
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!
>>> 
>>> OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
>>> update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
>>> 2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
>>> this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
>>> hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
>>> promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
>>> thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
>>> literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
>>> to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
>>> again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely!
>>> extremely! tedious process, so beware.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> Chris Gilland.
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
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iTunes gift card

2013-01-28 Thread Kerri
Hello, all. I was given an iTunes gift crd for my birthday and want to make use 
of it. However, I have my credit card connected to my apple id; how do I 
temporarily disable the automatic payment through the card? Thanks and have a 
great day.

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Re: IOS 6.1 is available

2013-01-28 Thread Rachel Feinberg
For those who own an iPod 5th Generation, have you experienced any issues while 
attempting to update? I've seen an article regarding users who have had 
difficulties,  and was just curious if anyone here has been affected?
Thanks,
Rachel 
On Jan 28, 2013, at 5:17 PM, "Scott Berry"  wrote:

> I updated my Ipad 2.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kerri
> Sent: January 28, 2013 17:16
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 6.1 is available
> 
> I'm updating both my iPad and iPhone right now as we speak.
> On 2013-01-28, at 11:18 AM, Michael Babcock 
> wrote:
> 
>> Running the update on my iPhone, and AppleTV. Thank you for inviting us,
> in my opinion, the Apple TV update was unexpected.
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to inform you guys and gals that IOS 6.1 is now available
> on iPhones, iPads, iPod touches, and Apple TVs.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-28 Thread Kerri
thanks, Esther, I do want to change some of the dictionary preferences you 
listed as I'm Canadian and we sometimes use British English conventions.
On 2013-01-28, at 12:22 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hello Danny and Kerri,
> 
> First of all, you can access multiple dictionaries on your Mac. If you
> open the Dictionary app using any of the ways Rachel described
> earlier, such as using spotlight (Command-space bar, then type the
> first few letters of the app, such as "d i c t" and press return) or
> from Finder, by using the Command-Shift-a shortcut to move to the
> applications folder, again typing the first few letters of the app you
> want, like "d i" to move to the app, then pressing Command-down arrow
> to open, you can open your preferences menu for that app with the
> Command-comma shortcut.  Under your app preferences you can check
> boxes for any of the dictionaries that you want enabled.  For example,
> while the New Oxford American Dictionary is selected for U.S. users, I
> can also check the box for the Oxford English Dictionary which uses
> British English conventions. Mountain Lion also added a large number
> of dictionaries in other languages. Once you've checked any additional
> dictionaries you want added, close the preferences window with Command-
> w.   Now any additional dictionary or thesaurus that you've checked
> will appear as additional sources you can check, along with the your
> default dictionary, thesaurus, Wikipedia, etc.
> 
> However, if you only want to check "what letters American words skip",
> you don't need to add other dictionaries to look this up.  Highlight
> the word you want to look up using Option-Shift-Right or Left Arrow as
> previously stated, but when you bring up the context menu with VO-
> Shift-M you want to show spellings and grammar.  That window has a pop
> up menu button that you can navigate to and change from "Automatic by
> Language" to specific languages like "U.S. English", "Australian
> English", or "British English".  You can also move to the last entry
> with Command-Down arrow and, if you were typing in TextEdit, choose
> "Open Text Preferences" to set the specific language pop-up button you
> want to use for spelling.  (I have multiple languages and voices set
> up on my Mac, so my settings may not be typical.)  You probably don't
> want to change your preferences permanently to look up alternate
> spellings, though.  And there's also a "Learn" button in the previous
> spelling and grammar window if you want to add words or abbreviations
> and not have them flagged by the spell checker.
> 
> The Multilingual Mac blog posted on Sunday that as of OS X 10.8.2, the
> Dictionary.app has modules for US English, British English, French,
> German, Spanish, Japanese, and Simplified Chinese, and provided links
> to a few sites for adding other (language) dictionaries. (Not all
> these sites are in English, and some of the modules may not be up to
> date.) Here's the link to the article:
> • Adding Dictionaries to Dictionary.app
> http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2013/01/adding-dictionaries-to-dictionaryapp.html
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 11:31 pm, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> Also, you can highlight a word with shift option left or right arrow, VO 
>> shift m for context menu and the first option is look up + the word 
>> highlighted , EG, I just selected "Context" so the option is "Look up 
>> Context".Choosing this lets you use dictionary, thesaurus or wikipedia. This 
>> is wonderful. Any word you want info on, bang. You write a word but find 
>> your using it too often, go look up the thesaurus for an alternate word 
>> choice. Google search is another option from the context menu so it's all 
>> very quick and easy.
>> 
>> My daughter says she has extra dictionaries on her school MacBook and I'd 
>> love to know where and how to get them. I'm always trying to remember what 
>> letters American words skip. :-)
>> 
>> Now I'm off to play with the dictionary. I want to see if you can add words 
>> etc.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Danny:
>> 
>> On 27/01/2013, at 6:37 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Kerri,
>> 
>>> You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
>>> letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can 
>>> navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with 
>>> that, and browse to the dictionary app.
>>> Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and 
>>> go to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press 
>>> enter. Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html 
>>> area. In there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
>>> there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar 
>>> to the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so 
>>> please forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
>>> Hope that helps 

Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-28 Thread Kerri
I couldn't agree more, she definitely requires a tip jar.
On 2013-01-28, at 12:32 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> You need a tip jar. :-). You know and share so much. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Danny 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 29/01/2013, at 7:22 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Danny and Kerri,
>> 
>> First of all, you can access multiple dictionaries on your Mac. If you
>> open the Dictionary app using any of the ways Rachel described
>> earlier, such as using spotlight (Command-space bar, then type the
>> first few letters of the app, such as "d i c t" and press return) or
>> from Finder, by using the Command-Shift-a shortcut to move to the
>> applications folder, again typing the first few letters of the app you
>> want, like "d i" to move to the app, then pressing Command-down arrow
>> to open, you can open your preferences menu for that app with the
>> Command-comma shortcut.  Under your app preferences you can check
>> boxes for any of the dictionaries that you want enabled.  For example,
>> while the New Oxford American Dictionary is selected for U.S. users, I
>> can also check the box for the Oxford English Dictionary which uses
>> British English conventions. Mountain Lion also added a large number
>> of dictionaries in other languages. Once you've checked any additional
>> dictionaries you want added, close the preferences window with Command-
>> w.   Now any additional dictionary or thesaurus that you've checked
>> will appear as additional sources you can check, along with the your
>> default dictionary, thesaurus, Wikipedia, etc.
>> 
>> However, if you only want to check "what letters American words skip",
>> you don't need to add other dictionaries to look this up.  Highlight
>> the word you want to look up using Option-Shift-Right or Left Arrow as
>> previously stated, but when you bring up the context menu with VO-
>> Shift-M you want to show spellings and grammar.  That window has a pop
>> up menu button that you can navigate to and change from "Automatic by
>> Language" to specific languages like "U.S. English", "Australian
>> English", or "British English".  You can also move to the last entry
>> with Command-Down arrow and, if you were typing in TextEdit, choose
>> "Open Text Preferences" to set the specific language pop-up button you
>> want to use for spelling.  (I have multiple languages and voices set
>> up on my Mac, so my settings may not be typical.)  You probably don't
>> want to change your preferences permanently to look up alternate
>> spellings, though.  And there's also a "Learn" button in the previous
>> spelling and grammar window if you want to add words or abbreviations
>> and not have them flagged by the spell checker.
>> 
>> The Multilingual Mac blog posted on Sunday that as of OS X 10.8.2, the
>> Dictionary.app has modules for US English, British English, French,
>> German, Spanish, Japanese, and Simplified Chinese, and provided links
>> to a few sites for adding other (language) dictionaries. (Not all
>> these sites are in English, and some of the modules may not be up to
>> date.) Here's the link to the article:
>> • Adding Dictionaries to Dictionary.app
>> http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2013/01/adding-dictionaries-to-dictionaryapp.html
>> 
>> HTH. Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 11:31 pm, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>>> Also, you can highlight a word with shift option left or right arrow, VO 
>>> shift m for context menu and the first option is look up + the word 
>>> highlighted , EG, I just selected "Context" so the option is "Look up 
>>> Context".Choosing this lets you use dictionary, thesaurus or wikipedia. 
>>> This is wonderful. Any word you want info on, bang. You write a word but 
>>> find your using it too often, go look up the thesaurus for an alternate 
>>> word choice. Google search is another option from the context menu so it's 
>>> all very quick and easy.
>>> 
>>> My daughter says she has extra dictionaries on her school MacBook and I'd 
>>> love to know where and how to get them. I'm always trying to remember what 
>>> letters American words skip. :-)
>>> 
>>> Now I'm off to play with the dictionary. I want to see if you can add words 
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Danny:
>>> 
>>> On 27/01/2013, at 6:37 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi Kerri,
>>> 
 You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
 letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you 
 can navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact 
 with that, and browse to the dictionary app.
 Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and 
 go to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press 
 enter. Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html 
 area. In there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
 there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar 

Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, while the 
website you went to does a good job of hiding the information, the links to 
that website in google do mention infovox ivox. If you had found that trail you 
wouldn't have gotten so frustrated but definitely the website could have a link 
to assistiveware somewhere prominent on the first page!
But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo be sure to 
do "start demo" before you try to choose it in voiceover.


  
-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> I'm on
> 
> www.acapelagroup.com
> 
> I'm trying to find where in the hell! you go to buy any of the voices, more 
> specifically the texan country Mikah voice for the Mac.  This is driving me 
> up the frickin wall!  I'm looking all over the site and no matter how hard I 
> look, nor how hard I google I cannot for the life of me find a link to get 
> the price nor purchase and download.
> 
> Please can someone give me a hand before I go bawld over here from losing all 
> my hair?
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. 
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Re: iTunes gift card

2013-01-28 Thread Esther
Hi Kerri,

If you redeem an iTunes gift card for your account, purchases will
always first use any available credit in your account before charging
your credit card.  If you're left with $.50 credit and your purchase
is for $0.99, the balance of your credit will be used, and then your
credit card will be debited for the remaining $0.49.  So there's no
need to disable the automatic payment feature.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 28, 6:19 pm, Kerri  wrote:
> Hello, all. I was given an iTunes gift crd for my birthday and want to make 
> use of it. However, I have my credit card connected to my apple id; how do I 
> temporarily disable the automatic payment through the card? Thanks and have a 
> great day.

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Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
The other thing too that is kind of frustrating me is that every few seconds 
it craps out and tells me it's an evaluation coopy.  I thought that it was a 
30 day full functionality trial, or did I miss read the web site.  Mayve I 
just need to restart the macbook now that I start3ed the demo so that things 
will take effect, and yes, I did make sure I hads an internet connection.  I 
definitely do.  Smile.


Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
- Original Message - 
From: "Cheryl Homiak" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!


http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, while 
the website you went to does a good job of hiding the information, the links 
to that website in google do mention infovox ivox. If you had found that 
trail you wouldn't have gotten so frustrated but definitely the website 
could have a link to assistiveware somewhere prominent on the first page!
But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo be sure 
to do "start demo" before you try to choose it in voiceover.




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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:



I'm on

www.acapelagroup.com

I'm trying to find where in the hell! you go to buy any of the voices, 
more specifically the texan country Mikah voice for the Mac.  This is 
driving me up the frickin wall!  I'm looking all over the site and no 
matter how hard I look, nor how hard I google I cannot for the life of me 
find a link to get the price nor purchase and download.


Please can someone give me a hand before I go bawld over here from losing 
all my hair?


Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
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Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread hank smith

it did the same thing for me as well.
On 1/28/2013 9:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
The other thing too that is kind of frustrating me is that every few 
seconds it craps out and tells me it's an evaluation coopy.  I thought 
that it was a 30 day full functionality trial, or did I miss read the 
web site.  Mayve I just need to restart the macbook now that I 
start3ed the demo so that things will take effect, and yes, I did make 
sure I hads an internet connection.  I definitely do.  Smile.


Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
- Original Message - From: "Cheryl Homiak" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!


http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, 
while the website you went to does a good job of hiding the 
information, the links to that website in google do mention infovox 
ivox. If you had found that trail you wouldn't have gotten so 
frustrated but definitely the website could have a link to 
assistiveware somewhere prominent on the first page!
But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo 
be sure to do "start demo" before you try to choose it in voiceover.






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Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Same here. I ended up getting rid of it. It annoyed me in the end!
Hope that helps. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:15 PM, hank smith  wrote:

> it did the same thing for me as well.
> On 1/28/2013 9:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> The other thing too that is kind of frustrating me is that every few seconds 
>> it craps out and tells me it's an evaluation coopy.  I thought that it was a 
>> 30 day full functionality trial, or did I miss read the web site.  Mayve I 
>> just need to restart the macbook now that I start3ed the demo so that things 
>> will take effect, and yes, I did make sure I hads an internet connection.  I 
>> definitely do.  Smile.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message - From: "Cheryl Homiak" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
>> Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, while 
>> the website you went to does a good job of hiding the information, the links 
>> to that website in google do mention infovox ivox. If you had found that 
>> trail you wouldn't have gotten so frustrated but definitely the website 
>> could have a link to assistiveware somewhere prominent on the first page!
>> But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo be sure 
>> to do "start demo" before you try to choose it in voiceover.
> 
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RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Chris,

I experienced the same hanging problem on my Apple TV, just as you
described.  

Earlier this evening, my Apple TV got stuck at 60% for about 40 minutes.  I
got tired of waiting and unplugged the device.

After waiting 30 seconds or so, I plugged my unit back in.  The Apple TV
started without a hitch.  

Next, I went back into settings and selected the Download update option,
again.  This second time, the update went through without a hitch.  

Thanks for posting the warning as I am certain there are many who will think
their device is broken.  

Mark








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Gilland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an extremely! 
extremely! tedious process, so beware.

Chris.

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Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Esther
Hi Chris,

The Assistiveware site still lists Origin Instruments Corporation as a
third party vendor.  They were the designated sellers for purchases in
the U.S. and Canada whenI bought Infovox voices.  I'll paste in the
contact information for their customer support and the web page URL
for buying the voices at their site.

Origin Instruments customer support:

Voice: 972-606-8740
Fax: 972-606-8741
Email: supp...@orin.com

Address:

Origin Instruments Corporation
854 Greenview Drive
Grand Prairie, TX 75050-2438

Their web page URL for the voices is:
http://www.orin.com/access/infovox_ivox/

HTH. At least you'll have a contact point if you have questions.

Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 28, 6:54 pm, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
wrote:
> The other thing too that is kind of frustrating me is that every few seconds
> it craps out and tells me it's an evaluation coopy.  I thought that it was a
> 30 day full functionality trial, or did I miss read the web site.  Mayve I
> just need to restart the macbook now that I start3ed the demo so that things
> will take effect, and yes, I did make sure I hads an internet connection.  I
> definitely do.  Smile.
>
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productionshttp://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone:803-760-7136
> Toll-Free:1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cheryl Homiak" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!
>
> http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
> Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, while
> the website you went to does a good job of hiding the information, the links
> to that website in google do mention infovox ivox. If you had found that
> trail you wouldn't have gotten so frustrated but definitely the website
> could have a link to assistiveware somewhere prominent on the first page!
> But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo be sure
> to do "start demo" before you try to choose it in voiceover.
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
>
> > I'm on
>
> >www.acapelagroup.com
>
> > I'm trying to find where in the hell! you go to buy any of the voices,
> > more specifically the texan country Mikah voice for the Mac.  This is
> > driving me up the frickin wall!  I'm looking all over the site and no
> > matter how hard I look, nor how hard I google I cannot for the life of me
> > find a link to get the price nor purchase and download.
>
> > Please can someone give me a hand before I go bawld over here from losing
> > all my hair?
>
> > Chris Gilland.
> > Founder of CLG Productions
> >http://www.clgproductions.com
> > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> > Phone:803-760-7136
> > Toll-Free:1-888-405-3185
> > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.

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Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Actually, rebooting definitely helped tremendously, but it still after about 
30 minutes started it's big mouth again.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Bruinenberg" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!


Same here. I ended up getting rid of it. It annoyed me in the end!
Hope that helps.


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On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:15 PM, hank smith  wrote:


it did the same thing for me as well.
On 1/28/2013 9:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
The other thing too that is kind of frustrating me is that every few 
seconds it craps out and tells me it's an evaluation coopy.  I thought 
that it was a 30 day full functionality trial, or did I miss read the web 
site.  Mayve I just need to restart the macbook now that I start3ed the 
demo so that things will take effect, and yes, I did make sure I hads an 
internet connection.  I definitely do.  Smile.


Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
- Original Message - From: "Cheryl Homiak" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!


http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, while 
the website you went to does a good job of hiding the information, the 
links to that website in google do mention infovox ivox. If you had found 
that trail you wouldn't have gotten so frustrated but definitely the 
website could have a link to assistiveware somewhere prominent on the 
first page!
But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo be 
sure to do "start demo" before you try to choose it in voiceover.


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Re: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

2013-01-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm just shocked that you didn't brick your device by unplugging as you did. 
Shwieuw! you were lucky!


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- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!



Hello Chris,

I experienced the same hanging problem on my Apple TV, just as you
described.

Earlier this evening, my Apple TV got stuck at 60% for about 40 minutes. 
I

got tired of waiting and unplugged the device.

After waiting 30 seconds or so, I plugged my unit back in.  The Apple TV
started without a hitch.

Next, I went back into settings and selected the Download update option,
again.  This second time, the update went through without a hitch.

Thanks for posting the warning as I am certain there are many who will 
think

their device is broken.

Mark








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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Warning about Apple TV Update. Do, not, pannick!

OK, I wanted to let people know based on my experience not just of this
update, but the prior update as well... if you go to update your Apple TV,
2nd or! 3rd gen, it doesn't matter as in both cases you'll probably see
this... if it seems on step 2 to just sit there at about 65 percent and
hang, don't? pannick!  It'll take about 30 minutes, but eventually, I
promise! it will? move!  Don't unplug it, or you might risk bricking the
thing.  Also, once at about 75 percent, it's gonna hang for all eternity,
literally most likely.  I mean, this sucker sat there and basically seemed
to stall for at least! a good 2 hours on my end.  I promise you though,
again, just leave it alone!  It will! go through, but this is an 
extremely!

extremely! tedious process, so beware.

Chris.

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