Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you > know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so open > your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew computer > user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will start to > make more since. > > Kliphton Senior > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi folks. >> >> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >> times? >> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >> with it before going into apps? >> >> All comments on this is really welcome. >> >> Best regards David >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
connecting to ftp servers
Hi all. I know that finder can connect to ftp servers, because I'm on one now, but its amazingly slow when going between folders, and finder goes busy a lot, so is there an alternative app for this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: connecting to ftp servers
Hi. Yes there is. Cyberduck and FileZilla are great free apps. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-14, at 6:50 AM, Devin Prater wrote: > Hi all. I know that finder can connect to ftp servers, because I'm on one > now, but its amazingly slow when going between folders, and finder goes busy > a lot, so is there an alternative app for this? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: connecting to ftp servers
Ah, thanks a lot! I have filezilla on my pc, so it shouldn't take much to get used to the mac app, but I'll also try cyberduck. On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi. > Yes there is. Cyberduck and FileZilla are great free apps. > > Matt > Sent from my mac > Twitter: matt692 > > On 2013-01-14, at 6:50 AM, Devin Prater wrote: > >> Hi all. I know that finder can connect to ftp servers, because I'm on one >> now, but its amazingly slow when going between folders, and finder goes busy >> a lot, so is there an alternative app for this? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Draconis Entertainment Releases mini title for Mac OS X – SilverDollar
This is really a cool game. Keep up the good work guys. Who have done those funny voiceovers? I heard a crazy comment from the saloon while playing, and I laughed so much that I died. :) Especially the voices are really cool. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 12/01/2013 kl. 00.52 skrev Teresa Cochran : > Another goody, guys. You do realize this is seriously cutting into my reading > time. :) > > Teresa > > > "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> I just bought this and love it. >> Works great with SL. >> >> Have a Blessed Day, >> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley >> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >> >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: >> >>> Howdy partner, and welcome to the Silver Dollar Saloon! >>> >>> Draconis Entertainment revisits the popular saloon of the old west featured >>> in many of its audio games for the blind and visually impaired with a new >>> mini title for Mac OS X! (Coming later to Windows PC's.) >>> >>> Primarily intended for the blind and visually impaired, SilverDollar offers >>> three mini games that serve as both a great introduction to audio games for >>> new players, and addictive fun for experienced ones. >>> >>> SilverDollar has no visual elements. Use your fingers, ears, and wits to >>> engage in some western fun. >>> >>> So put on your 10 gallon hat, partner, and get into a little trouble at the >>> old west's premier watering hole for outlaws and gunslingers alike. >>> >>> • Start a brawl with the Silver Dollar's resident tough guy. >>> • Prove yourself a gunslinger by testing your shooting skills, blasting >>> flying crockery out of the air. >>> • Spend a little time at the one-armed bandit. >>> • Features many favorite characters from previous Draconis titles, >>> including Old Man Stanley. >>> • Audio hints to help newcomers navigate the game menus with their ears. >>> • In app instructions for all the mini games. >>> >>> Other mini games are planned for future updates. Have something you'd like >>> to see? Let us know. >>> >>> SilverDollar is available in the Mac App Store for $1.99 USD at the >>> following link: >>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/silverdollar/id591523274?mt=12 >>> >>> We are open to questions on this title, or Draconis in general. As always, >>> we don't comment on unannounced titles, but we will do our best to answer >>> questions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garage band questions
The instrument portion of the jampacks seem to be working fine, its just the GarageBand loop browser that is acting squirrely. I think it is the instruments that make up the greater portion of the download, with the loops only being around 4GB. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:42 PM Subject: Re: garage band questions Hmm, well do they show up as instruments at least? On Jan 13, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: MainStage is a "performance" app of some kind that lets you create performances. I don't find it particularly easy to understand or work, and it isn't 100% accessible I am having alot of trouble getting the downloaded jampacks to show up in GarageBand though. Maybe you'll have better luck. They download fine, and are easily previewed in finder, but the GB loop browser is not playing nice for me. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:44 PM Subject: Re: garage band questions Wow, thanks a lot! What does MainStage do? On Jan 13, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Phil Halton wrote: you can get all six GB jampacks through the MainStage app. it costs around $30 and is available in the app store. after downloading and running MainStage, you'll be confronted with a few silent screens where VO won't work. This silent screen is where MainStage is downloading critical data and it may take an hour or so to complete. Once you've got MainStage running, select the "download additional content" from the MainStage menu. There you can check off all the jampacks you want, or just select "all content". its about 19 Gigabyte of additional data and will take several hours to download. Again, the download screen doesn't work with VO, and the only way to close the download process is to force quit. So, just let it run and eventually it'll download all the jampacks. I'm having some trouble with the Loops installing properly into GarageBands loop browser. But, all the files are there - its just that loop browser seems a bit unstable and unreliable. I'm going to try to manually import them into GB in case they didn't install correctly through the MainStage app. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: garage band questions Ah, OK. Thanks a lot. I don't have $100 at the moment, but if I ever get enough money and experience with garageband to need them, I might get one. On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: You buy them from apple. The mac app store should have them so far as I know but Google will show them up. From memory, there $100USD or something similar. Be aware, some of the older Jam packs don't install correctly with modern macs. There is a way round this but someone else will have to explain that as I never got it to work. It involves going into the Jam pack and manually importing samples, instruments etc into garageband rather than installing it normally. Danny: On 14/01/2013, at 9:56 AM, Devin Prater wrote: Hi all. Somewhere I heard you can get "jam packs" for garage band so that you can add more instruments to it. Where can I get these, and how much money are they? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Draconis Entertainment Releases mini title for Mac OS X – SilverDollar
even though I miss spelt the name in the title, here's an audio/video demo of me playing the game if anyone wants to check it out. well worth the $1.99; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COFWNatnc2M On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > This is really a cool game. Keep up the good work guys. Who have done those > funny voiceovers? I heard a crazy comment from the saloon while playing, and > I laughed so much that I died. :) Especially the voices are really cool. > Best regards: > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den 12/01/2013 kl. 00.52 skrev Teresa Cochran : > >> Another goody, guys. You do realize this is seriously cutting into my >> reading time. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga >> >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> I just bought this and love it. >>> Works great with SL. >>> >>> Have a Blessed Day, >>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley >>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: >>> Howdy partner, and welcome to the Silver Dollar Saloon! Draconis Entertainment revisits the popular saloon of the old west featured in many of its audio games for the blind and visually impaired with a new mini title for Mac OS X! (Coming later to Windows PC's.) Primarily intended for the blind and visually impaired, SilverDollar offers three mini games that serve as both a great introduction to audio games for new players, and addictive fun for experienced ones. SilverDollar has no visual elements. Use your fingers, ears, and wits to engage in some western fun. So put on your 10 gallon hat, partner, and get into a little trouble at the old west's premier watering hole for outlaws and gunslingers alike. • Start a brawl with the Silver Dollar's resident tough guy. • Prove yourself a gunslinger by testing your shooting skills, blasting flying crockery out of the air. • Spend a little time at the one-armed bandit. • Features many favorite characters from previous Draconis titles, including Old Man Stanley. • Audio hints to help newcomers navigate the game menus with their ears. • In app instructions for all the mini games. Other mini games are planned for future updates. Have something you'd like to see? Let us know. SilverDollar is available in the Mac App Store for $1.99 USD at the following link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/silverdollar/id591523274?mt=12 We are open to questions on this title, or Draconis in general. As always, we don't comment on unannounced titles, but we will do our best to answer questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moving Your Home Directory To A New Partition
Good day, Does anyone know, if in Mountain Lion, whether or not it's possible to move your home directory to a new partition? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Draconis Entertainment Releases mini title for Mac OS X – SilverDollar
I now have the game. It is good, I do wish it had more content. Sent from my iPod with iCloud On 14 Jan 2013, at 9:52 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: even though I miss spelt the name in the title, here's an audio/video demo of me playing the game if anyone wants to check it out. well worth the $1.99; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COFWNatnc2M On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > This is really a cool game. Keep up the good work guys. Who have done those > funny voiceovers? I heard a crazy comment from the saloon while playing, and > I laughed so much that I died. :) Especially the voices are really cool. > Best regards: > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den 12/01/2013 kl. 00.52 skrev Teresa Cochran : > >> Another goody, guys. You do realize this is seriously cutting into my >> reading time. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga >> >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> I just bought this and love it. >>> Works great with SL. >>> >>> Have a Blessed Day, >>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley >>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: >>> Howdy partner, and welcome to the Silver Dollar Saloon! Draconis Entertainment revisits the popular saloon of the old west featured in many of its audio games for the blind and visually impaired with a new mini title for Mac OS X! (Coming later to Windows PC's.) Primarily intended for the blind and visually impaired, SilverDollar offers three mini games that serve as both a great introduction to audio games for new players, and addictive fun for experienced ones. SilverDollar has no visual elements. Use your fingers, ears, and wits to engage in some western fun. So put on your 10 gallon hat, partner, and get into a little trouble at the old west's premier watering hole for outlaws and gunslingers alike. • Start a brawl with the Silver Dollar's resident tough guy. • Prove yourself a gunslinger by testing your shooting skills, blasting flying crockery out of the air. • Spend a little time at the one-armed bandit. • Features many favorite characters from previous Draconis titles, including Old Man Stanley. • Audio hints to help newcomers navigate the game menus with their ears. • In app instructions for all the mini games. Other mini games are planned for future updates. Have something you'd like to see? Let us know. SilverDollar is available in the Mac App Store for $1.99 USD at the following link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/silverdollar/id591523274?mt=12 We are open to questions on this title, or Draconis in general. As always, we don't comment on unannounced titles, but we will do our best to answer questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Hey all, Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a good app to edit ID3 tags? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! -Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garage band questions
Ah thanks. When I get more money I will see about getting it Sent from my iPod with iCloud On 14 Jan 2013, at 9:49 AM, Phil Halton wrote: The instrument portion of the jampacks seem to be working fine, its just the GarageBand loop browser that is acting squirrely. I think it is the instruments that make up the greater portion of the download, with the loops only being around 4GB. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:42 PM Subject: Re: garage band questions Hmm, well do they show up as instruments at least? On Jan 13, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: > MainStage is a "performance" app of some kind that lets you create > performances. I don't find it particularly easy to understand or work, and it > isn't 100% accessible > I am having alot of trouble getting the downloaded jampacks to show up in > GarageBand though. Maybe you'll have better luck. > > They download fine, and are easily previewed in finder, but the GB loop > browser is not playing nice for me. > > - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: garage band questions > > > Wow, thanks a lot! What does MainStage do? > On Jan 13, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Phil Halton wrote: > >> you can get all six GB jampacks through the MainStage app. it costs around >> $30 and is available in the app store. >> >> after downloading and running MainStage, you'll be confronted with a few >> silent screens where VO won't work. This silent screen is where MainStage is >> downloading critical data and it may take an hour or so to complete. >> >> Once you've got MainStage running, select the "download additional content" >> from the MainStage menu. There you can check off all the jampacks you want, >> or just select "all content". its about 19 Gigabyte of additional data and >> will take several hours to download. Again, the download screen doesn't work >> with VO, and the only way to close the download process is to force quit. >> So, just let it run and eventually it'll download all the jampacks. >> >> I'm having some trouble with the Loops installing properly into GarageBands >> loop browser. But, all the files are there - its just that loop browser >> seems a bit unstable and unreliable. I'm going to try to manually import >> them into GB in case they didn't install correctly through the MainStage app. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:37 PM >> Subject: Re: garage band questions >> >> >> Ah, OK. Thanks a lot. I don't have $100 at the moment, but if I ever get >> enough money and experience with garageband to need them, I might get one. >> On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> You buy them from apple. The mac app store should have them so far as I >>> know but Google will show them up. From memory, there $100USD or something >>> similar. >>> >>> Be aware, some of the older Jam packs don't install correctly with modern >>> macs. There is a way round this but someone else will have to explain that >>> as I never got it to work. It involves going into the Jam pack and manually >>> importing samples, instruments etc into garageband rather than installing >>> it normally. >>> >>> Danny: >>> >>> >>> On 14/01/2013, at 9:56 AM, Devin Prater wrote: >>> Hi all. Somewhere I heard you can get "jam packs" for garage band so that you can add more instruments to it. Where can I get these, and how much money are they? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>
Running slow with Mountain Lion
Hi all, I just upgrading to Mountain Lion. VoiceOver is very sluggish even after updating the sofware, and my cursor tracking is not correct. I have to hit space instead of VO space to open apps like Safari, Mail and Skype. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? I installed over Lion, didn't do a clean install. My Macbook has 2GB of ram, a 250 GB hard drive with 53 gigs left and a 2.4GHZ Intel Core Duo processor. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Do I need to upgrade the ram? Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
users/library folder
For some reason, the Library folder is not listed under my user account in finder. Library folder is listed under my computer name, right under applications, and above system, but in my user account, there is no listing for library. I know there is a user/library folder as I can see it via terminal. I'm wondering if there is a setting somewhere to "hide" system files in finder? Does anyone else not have access to their username/library folder? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: users/library folder
A simple web search gave me my answer (I'm gonna have to start googling before asking). The ~/library/ folder is hidden by default starting from Lion onwards. The following Terminal command permanently unhides this folder. chflags nohidden ~/library/ Or, you can go directly to the ~/library folder without unhiding it by pressing command shift G, and typing in ~/library. found this on OSXDaily.com - Original Message - From: Phil Halton To: Macvisionaries Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:16 PM Subject: users/library folder For some reason, the Library folder is not listed under my user account in finder. Library folder is listed under my computer name, right under applications, and above system, but in my user account, there is no listing for library. I know there is a user/library folder as I can see it via terminal. I'm wondering if there is a setting somewhere to "hide" system files in finder? Does anyone else not have access to their username/library folder? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Running slow with Mountain Lion
This sounds a little weird. I'd try a clean install and see if that fixes anything. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi all, > > I just upgrading to Mountain Lion. VoiceOver is very sluggish even after > updating the sofware, and my cursor tracking is not correct. I have to hit > space instead of VO space to open apps like Safari, Mail and Skype. Does > anyone have any idea what is going on? I installed over Lion, didn't do a > clean install. My Macbook has 2GB of ram, a 250 GB hard drive with 53 gigs > left and a 2.4GHZ Intel Core Duo processor. If anyone has any ideas, please > let me know. Do I need to upgrade the ram? > > Allison > > My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Running slow with Mountain Lion
Hi. A clean install seems to be the ticket for many users. Also, four gigs of ram would certainly help with performance as would an ssd... Cameron. On 1/14/13, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > This sounds a little weird. > I'd try a clean install and see if that fixes anything. > Good luck. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just upgrading to Mountain Lion. VoiceOver is very sluggish even after >> updating the sofware, and my cursor tracking is not correct. I have to hit >> space instead of VO space to open apps like Safari, Mail and Skype. Does >> anyone have any idea what is going on? I installed over Lion, didn't do a >> clean install. My Macbook has 2GB of ram, a 250 GB hard drive with 53 gigs >> left and a 2.4GHZ Intel Core Duo processor. If anyone has any ideas, >> please let me know. Do I need to upgrade the ram? >> >> Allison >> >> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessibility of protools
Hey guys, I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac. One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about it is do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if possible. What's the latest accessible program? I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was only 2 track. I'm looking for something that does true multi-track. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessibility of protools
I use ProTools on the mac all the time professionally for a living! We're closed today due to situations beyond our control, but I'd be happy to discuss its accessibility with you further come tomorrow if you'd like during business hours. Choose option 1 from our phone's main menu when you call. Our number is listed below. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Accessibility of protools Hey guys, I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac. One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about it is do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if possible. What's the latest accessible program? I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was only 2 track. I'm looking for something that does true multi-track. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Accessibility of protools
Wow, you just made me smile, nice! What time works for you tomorrow, absolutely would love to talk. Let's chat. This is huge news. Glad someone understand what I mean by a full multi track editer. Cheers, Jed -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessibility of protools I use ProTools on the mac all the time professionally for a living! We're closed today due to situations beyond our control, but I'd be happy to discuss its accessibility with you further come tomorrow if you'd like during business hours. Choose option 1 from our phone's main menu when you call. Our number is listed below. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Accessibility of protools > Hey guys, > > I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac. > One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about it > is > do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if possible. What's > the latest accessible program? > I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was only 2 > track. I'm looking for something that does true multi-track. Any > thoughts? > > Thanks, > Jed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Running slow with Mountain Lion
Did you repair permissions after installing Mountain Lion? Also, since you say you are using space instead of vo-space, did you check to make sure you don't have vo-keys locked with control-option-semi-colon (I know it's not likely; just covering the bases). Did you make sure your computer is one that meets the system requirements for upgrading to Lion (though it probably would have told you when you tried to install). Have you checked your settings in voiceover utility to make sure nothing is different than you had it before? -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Cameron Strife wrote: > Hi. A clean install seems to be the ticket for many users. > > Also, four gigs of ram would certainly help with performance as would an > ssd... > > Cameron. > > > > > On 1/14/13, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: >> This sounds a little weird. >> I'd try a clean install and see if that fixes anything. >> Good luck. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just upgrading to Mountain Lion. VoiceOver is very sluggish even after >>> updating the sofware, and my cursor tracking is not correct. I have to hit >>> space instead of VO space to open apps like Safari, Mail and Skype. Does >>> anyone have any idea what is going on? I installed over Lion, didn't do a >>> clean install. My Macbook has 2GB of ram, a 250 GB hard drive with 53 gigs >>> left and a 2.4GHZ Intel Core Duo processor. If anyone has any ideas, >>> please let me know. Do I need to upgrade the ram? >>> >>> Allison >>> >>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessibility of protools
I definitely understand. I'll send you a track that I recorded in my home studio off list to give you an idea what is possible with PT. I don't know what time zone you are on. We're on eastern time. Let's say... tomorrow right after my lunch hour, so we'll say 1:00 eastern. If this tells you anything just to help you calculate, it just hit 1:30 over here. Why don't we discuss this further off list and coordinate something. My work e-mail address is in my signature. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Accessibility of protools Wow, you just made me smile, nice! What time works for you tomorrow, absolutely would love to talk. Let's chat. This is huge news. Glad someone understand what I mean by a full multi track editer. Cheers, Jed -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessibility of protools I use ProTools on the mac all the time professionally for a living! We're closed today due to situations beyond our control, but I'd be happy to discuss its accessibility with you further come tomorrow if you'd like during business hours. Choose option 1 from our phone's main menu when you call. Our number is listed below. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Accessibility of protools Hey guys, I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac. One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about it is do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if possible. What's the latest accessible program? I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was only 2 track. I'm looking for something that does true multi-track. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
FLAC opened just fine for me but I noticed I have something called FLACImporter.component in my Library/Quicktime folder and I can't recall where I got it from. Might have been part of FLUKE: http://code.google.com/p/flukeformac/ or maybe it was when I was fiddling with getting Ogg files into iTunes that I installed this: http://people.xiph.org/~arek/flac_import/ CB On 1/14/13 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey all, Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a good app to edit ID3 tags? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! -Marc -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessibility of protools
Hi There, I've done multi-track editing with PT and have found it to be very accessible with the exception of a few mixing plugins. This was primarily PT 10, PT 7-9 seemed to work very well with voiceover. HTH, Randy On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:25 PM, "Jed Barton" wrote: > Wow, you just made me smile, nice! > What time works for you tomorrow, absolutely would love to talk. > Let's chat. This is huge news. Glad someone understand what I mean by a > full multi track editer. > > Cheers, > Jed > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark > Gilland > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:24 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Accessibility of protools > > I use ProTools on the mac all the time professionally for a living! > > We're closed today due to situations beyond our control, but I'd be happy to > discuss its accessibility with you further come tomorrow if you'd like > during business hours. Choose option 1 from our phone's main menu when you > call. Our number is listed below. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:11 PM > Subject: Accessibility of protools > > >> Hey guys, >> >> I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac. >> One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about it >> is >> do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if possible. What's >> the latest accessible program? >> I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was only 2 >> track. I'm looking for something that does true multi-track. Any >> thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> Jed >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Running slow with Mountain Lion
Alison, that's your problem right there. Mountain Lion takes up about 4 GB of memory. And you say you only have 53 gigs of memory? If I were you, I'd consider upgrading your ram plus deleting any unwanted or unused crap off your hard drive Or you're gonna be in for some major problems. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Accessibility of protools
This is very refreshing to hear. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy George Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessibility of protools Hi There, I've done multi-track editing with PT and have found it to be very accessible with the exception of a few mixing plugins. This was primarily PT 10, PT 7-9 seemed to work very well with voiceover. HTH, Randy On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:25 PM, "Jed Barton" wrote: > Wow, you just made me smile, nice! > What time works for you tomorrow, absolutely would love to talk. > Let's chat. This is huge news. Glad someone understand what I mean > by a full multi track editer. > > Cheers, > Jed > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark > Gilland > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:24 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Accessibility of protools > > I use ProTools on the mac all the time professionally for a living! > > We're closed today due to situations beyond our control, but I'd be > happy to discuss its accessibility with you further come tomorrow if > you'd like during business hours. Choose option 1 from our phone's > main menu when you call. Our number is listed below. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:11 PM > Subject: Accessibility of protools > > >> Hey guys, >> >> I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac. >> One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about >> it is do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if >> possible. What's the latest accessible program? >> I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was >> only 2 track. I'm looking for something that does true multi-track. >> Any thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> Jed >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Vlc will play them. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? > I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them > with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a > good app to edit ID3 tags? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > Vlc will play them. > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >> good app to edit ID3 tags? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >> >> -Marc >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for > most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no way > to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can > easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. > > > > Sent from my phone > > On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > >> Vlc will play them. >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >>> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >>> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >>> good app to edit ID3 tags? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >>> >>> -Marc >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
getting to address bar in Safari
Hi Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to it via the toolbar. If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the old one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Hi. When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. Then press command c to copy. Hope that helps. Chris On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Hi > Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the > website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to > it via the toolbar. > If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the > old one. > Thanks. > > Lisette > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Musicbox is a very useful tagger. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-14, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? > I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them > with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a > good app to edit ID3 tags? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an expensive tool for just doing that. I just installed a cheep app the other day called RightClickMp3 I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the mac app store here https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. No bells and whistles, it just does what it says. I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. Hope this helps. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it > was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't > allow for ogg any more. thanks, max > On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for >> most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no >> way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can >> easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. >> >> >> >> Sent from my phone >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> Vlc will play them. >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau >>> wrote: >>> Hey all, Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a good app to edit ID3 tags? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! -Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Thanks Chris. You are right. I thought it gave a blank field but the current one is in there. Thanks. Very easy really isn't it? Lisette On 15/01/2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > Hi. > When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. > Then press command c to copy. > Hope that helps. > Chris > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi >> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the >> website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to >> it via the toolbar. >> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the >> old one. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Now that is good to know. Will it convert flac also? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly > plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an > expensive tool for just doing that. > I just installed a cheep app the other day called > RightClickMp3 > I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the > mac app store here > https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 > > It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of > at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files > you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. > > When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and > you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. No > bells and whistles, it just does what it says. > > I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few > seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. > > Hope this helps. > > Danny: > > > On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > >> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it >> was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't >> allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player >>> for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now >>> no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you >>> can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my phone >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: >>> Vlc will play them. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? > I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them > with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a > good app to edit ID3 tags? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Your welcome. I'm glad to help. On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Thanks Chris. You are right. I thought it gave a blank field but the current > one is in there. Thanks. Very easy really isn't it? > > Lisette > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > >> Hi. >> When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current >> address. >> Then press command c to copy. >> Hope that helps. >> Chris >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy >>> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can >>> navigate to it via the toolbar. >>> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see >>> the old one. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. >From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next >link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > Hi. > When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. > Then press command c to copy. > Hope that helps. > Chris > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi >> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the >> website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to >> it via the toolbar. >> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the >> old one. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Yep, WMA, AAC, Flac, ogg and a bunch more. It isn't as cheep as I thought though. In the Australian store, it's $6.50 or so so I would guess, $5.99 in the US. Still, in my opinion, nothing for such a handy tool as this. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Now that is good to know. Will it convert flac also? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly >> plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an >> expensive tool for just doing that. >> I just installed a cheep app the other day called >> RightClickMp3 >> I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the >> mac app store here >> https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 >> >> It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of >> at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files >> you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. >> >> When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and >> you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. >> No bells and whistles, it just does what it says. >> >> I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few >> seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Danny: >> >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> >>> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because >>> it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion >>> doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > Vlc will play them. > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >> good app to edit ID3 tags? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >> >> -Marc >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubsc
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
I agree. I think instead of forgetting about windows, its more like forgetting about your screen reader for windows. In my opinion, Voiceover and Windows screen readers have more differences than the Actual OSs. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and > sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples > pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the > board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users > Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? > So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, > even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are > on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. > > I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which > one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the > ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > >> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you >> know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so >> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew >> computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will >> start to make more since. >> >> Kliphton Senior >> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: >> >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >>> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >>> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >>> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >>> times? >>> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >>> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >>> with it before going into apps? >>> >>> All comments on this is really welcome. >>> >>> Best regards David >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the element you want in the toolbar. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts > with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in > Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. > There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a > heading or link. > > From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the > next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. > > So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting > with html area. :-) > > While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool > bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? > > Thanks to all. > > Danny: > > > On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > >> Hi. >> When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current >> address. >> Then press command c to copy. >> Hope that helps. >> Chris >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy >>> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can >>> navigate to it via the toolbar. >>> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see >>> the old one. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the > address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the > element you want in the toolbar. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts >> with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in >> Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. >> There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a >> heading or link. >> >> From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the >> next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. >> >> So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting >> with html area. :-) >> >> While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool >> bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? >> >> Thanks to all. >> >> Danny: >> >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current >>> address. >>> Then press command c to copy. >>> Hope that helps. >>> Chris >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>> wrote: >>> Hi Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to it via the toolbar. If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the old one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
You are in Australia? Wow! Must be hot this time of year. Perfect barefoot weather and all. Anyhow, might write off list. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > Yep, WMA, AAC, Flac, ogg and a bunch more. It isn't as cheep as I thought > though. In the Australian store, it's $6.50 or so so I would guess, $5.99 in > the US. Still, in my opinion, nothing for such a handy tool as this. > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 8:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Now that is good to know. Will it convert flac also? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly >>> plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an >>> expensive tool for just doing that. >>> I just installed a cheep app the other day called >>> RightClickMp3 >>> I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the >>> mac app store here >>> https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 >>> >>> It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case >>> of at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio >>> files you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it >>> goes. >>> >>> When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and >>> you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. >>> No bells and whistles, it just does what it says. >>> >>> I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few >>> seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Danny: >>> >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >>> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player > for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs > now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. > Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple > remote. > > > > Sent from my phone > > On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > >> Vlc will play them. >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau >> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >>> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >>> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >>> good app to edit ID3 tags? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >>> >>> -Marc >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googleg
Pandora apps aside from PianoPub?
Hello, i'm wondering if there are any accessible Pandora apps aside from PianoPub? I'm not a big fan of that one at all, and am looking for others that may be around. Any suggestions would be great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
hi danny; that right click mp3 sounds just like what i need. its a shame real player or iTunes doesn't play ogg files. take care, max On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly > plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an > expensive tool for just doing that. > I just installed a cheep app the other day called > RightClickMp3 > I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the > mac app store here > https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 > > It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of > at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files > you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. > > When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and > you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. No > bells and whistles, it just does what it says. > > I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few > seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. > > Hope this helps. > > Danny: > > > On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > >> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it >> was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't >> allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player >>> for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now >>> no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you >>> can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my phone >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: >>> Vlc will play them. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? > I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them > with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a > good app to edit ID3 tags? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
You should be able to convert them to mp3 once you pull them into iTunes. I put some stuff up on this list about how to do that back in 2009. Let me paste it again here: The XiphQT only gives flac playback capability. I added the flac_import component and was able to open and play a flac file. The importer without XiphQT enabled QuickTime player to open a flac but I got silence when it played. So you need both pieces. I got the flac import component from here: http://people.xiph.org/~arek/flac_import/flac_import_0.5b1_p0.1.dmg I wonder why this capability isn't bundled into the main XiphQT plugin. I tested with the BlueEyesExcerpt.flac from this site: http://ff123.net/samples.html CB Weird. I hadn't checked iTunes. I just assumed that if QTPlayer would play it then iTunes would as well. So after some more googling around it turns out iTunes in pretty particular as to what OS file type the flac file is. Apparently with the aforementioned plugins the QT infrastructure can now handle flac just fine, as shown by the QTPlayer being able to open and play the files. iTunes though seems to filter out files that aren't of the right type. So you can command-O all you want and it won't import the flac file. So of course somebody made a dropplet app that will fix this called Set OggS. You can download that from here: http://people.xiph.org/~arek/flac_import/set-OggS-0.1.dmg So you go to your flac file, pull up the contextual menu with VO-shift-m, choose open with and then other, then navigate to wherever you've stashed Set OggS at. That should pop up and say it made the change with a Quit button. Quit out of Set OggS and then you should be able to open your flac file in iTune. I didn't try it but I would guess it should work in batches. Just select all your flacs, then do the contextual menu steps. Worked for me with a single file at least. CB On 1/14/13 3:25 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: Vlc will play them. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey all, Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a good app to edit ID3 tags? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! -Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Honestly, I like VLC more than most other media players. It's so much better on Mac than on PC. The cost is brilliant as well. :-) I really don't like programs that forcibly add anything I listen to to my library. There's stuff I want to listen to and then discard or keep archived so add this limitation of iTunes with the limited formats it will play out of the box and thumbs down in most situations for me. If it wasn't for my iDevices, I don't know I'd use iTunes at all actually. Danny: Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 9:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > hi danny; that right click mp3 sounds just like what i need. its a shame > real player or iTunes doesn't play ogg files. take care, max > On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly >> plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an >> expensive tool for just doing that. >> I just installed a cheep app the other day called >> RightClickMp3 >> I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the >> mac app store here >> https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 >> >> It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of >> at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files >> you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. >> >> When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and >> you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. >> No bells and whistles, it just does what it says. >> >> I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few >> seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Danny: >> >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> >>> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because >>> it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion >>> doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > Vlc will play them. > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >> good app to edit ID3 tags? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >> >> -Marc >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Wow, that's a convoluted process but great info to have. I'll save it for iTunes lovers I know. Thanks. On 15/01/2013, at 9:31 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > You should be able to convert them to mp3 once you pull them into iTunes. I > put some stuff up on this list about how to do that back in 2009. Let me > paste it again here: > > The XiphQT only gives flac playback capability. I added the > flac_import > component and was able to open and play a flac file. The importer > without XiphQT enabled QuickTime player to open a flac but I got > silence > when it played. So you need both pieces. I got the flac import > component > from here: > > http://people.xiph.org/~arek/flac_import/flac_import_0.5b1_p0.1.dmg > > I wonder why this capability isn't bundled into the main XiphQT > plugin. > I tested with the BlueEyesExcerpt.flac from this site: > > http://ff123.net/samples.html > > CB > > Weird. I hadn't checked iTunes. I just assumed that if QTPlayer would play it > then iTunes would as well. > > So after some more googling around it turns out iTunes in pretty particular > as to what OS file type the flac file is. Apparently with the aforementioned > plugins the QT infrastructure can now handle flac just fine, as shown by the > QTPlayer being able to open and play the files. iTunes though seems to filter > out files that aren't of the right type. So you can command-O all you want > and it won't import the flac file. So of course somebody made a dropplet app > that will fix this called Set OggS. You can download that from here: > > http://people.xiph.org/~arek/flac_import/set-OggS-0.1.dmg > > So you go to your flac file, pull up the contextual menu with VO-shift-m, > choose open with and then other, then navigate to wherever you've stashed Set > OggS at. That should pop up and say it made the change with a Quit button. > Quit out of Set OggS and then you should be able to open your flac file in > iTune. I didn't try it but I would guess it should work in batches. Just > select all your flacs, then do the contextual menu steps. Worked for me with > a single file at least. > > CB > > On 1/14/13 3:25 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it >> was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't >> allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player >>> for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now >>> no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you >>> can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my phone >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: >>> Vlc will play them. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? > I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them > with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a > good app to edit ID3 tags? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
You and I agree completely. Have you looked at Cog as a player? It's pretty cool actually. I wish, though, that they would add cross fading to Cog's functionality. Now that would be nice-especially since Cog allows ENQUEUE. I wish VLc did ENQUEUE. It doesn't seem to do that though. I frickin hate ITunes. I too hate the way ITunes forces you to use it's library whether you want to or not. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > Honestly, I like VLC more than most other media players. It's so much > better on Mac than on PC. The cost is brilliant as well. :-) > > I really don't like programs that forcibly add anything I listen to to my > library. There's stuff I want to listen to and then discard or keep archived > so add this limitation of iTunes with the limited formats it will play out of > the box and thumbs down in most situations for me. If it wasn't for my > iDevices, I don't know I'd use iTunes at all actually. > > Danny: > > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 9:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > >> hi danny; that right click mp3 sounds just like what i need. its a shame >> real player or iTunes doesn't play ogg files. take care, max >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly >>> plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an >>> expensive tool for just doing that. >>> I just installed a cheep app the other day called >>> RightClickMp3 >>> I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the >>> mac app store here >>> https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 >>> >>> It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case >>> of at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio >>> files you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it >>> goes. >>> >>> When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and >>> you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. >>> No bells and whistles, it just does what it says. >>> >>> I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few >>> seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Danny: >>> >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >>> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player > for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs > now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. > Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple > remote. > > > > Sent from my phone > > On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > >> Vlc will play them. >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau >> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >>> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >>> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >>> good app to edit ID3 tags? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >>> >>> -Marc >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this messa
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Actually, vlc does some converting but I've never completely figured it out. I've used switch to do some converting and it can convert whole directories, etc. I think I got it online rather than on the mac store but not sure. If I have some time I'll go look for the info. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly > plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an > expensive tool for just doing that. > I just installed a cheep app the other day called > RightClickMp3 > I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the > mac app store here > https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 > > It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of > at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files > you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. > > When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and > you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. No > bells and whistles, it just does what it says. > > I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few > seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. > > Hope this helps. > > Danny: > > > On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > >> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it >> was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't >> allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player >>> for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now >>> no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you >>> can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my phone >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: >>> Vlc will play them. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? > I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them > with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a > good app to edit ID3 tags? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/g
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that are the same across the board. On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and > sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples > pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the > board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users > Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? > So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, > even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are > on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. > > I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which > one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the > ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > >> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you >> know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so >> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew >> computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will >> start to make more since. >> >> Kliphton Senior >> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: >> >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >>> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >>> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >>> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >>> times? >>> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >>> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >>> with it before going into apps? >>> >>> All comments on this is really welcome. >>> >>> Best regards David >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Interacting, once you get used to it, is actually a wonderful thing. It allows me to quickly skip across frames in web pages and groups of buttons, tables, etc. Harry On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kerri wrote: > I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough > was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting > windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that > are the same across the board. > On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some >> users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the >> title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of >> a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since >> they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. >> >> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which >> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: >> >>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you >>> know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so >>> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew >>> computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will >>> start to make more since. >>> >>> Kliphton Senior >>> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: >>> Hi folks. As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping blind people switching from Windows to Mac. Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some times? What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts with it before going into apps? All comments on this is really welcome. Best regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ma
GarageBand loop browser problem revisited
Okay, you're all probably a little tired of this subject by now, but I have found what I think is the problem and its solution, and think I should detail it here for future reference. It seems that a project must be in 4/4 time signature for the loop browser to work. My project was in cut time (2/4) and I decided to create a new project in 4/4 and voila, loops all over the place - the place was lousy with them! Then, to confirm my suspiscion I created another project, in 2/4 time again, and not a loop to be found. I guess it makes sense as apple loops are created with a certain beat information embedded in the file and its probably based on a time signature of 4/4. Anything other than that brings up no matchs in the loop browser's sick logic. I suppose I should experiment with other time sigs (3/4 etc) to see what the limitations actually are, but for now, this is big news for me and a big relief (I was beginning to think Apple had it out for me personally) Oh yeah, I also successfuly rebuilt the apple loop index as follows in case there is interest. (this procedure comes from Apple support pages and several other sources on the web) 1) deleted all the entries in the /library/audio/apple loops index/ folder. 2) open GarageBand and try to open the loop browser, GB reports that there are no loops installed. 3) drag the /library/audio/apple loops/ folder and drop it on GB's loop browser. to do this I found it necessary to: 1) place GB and Finder side-by-side on the screen with the resize window functions (VO shift tilda) 2) Mark the Apple Loops folder with VO comma 3) command tab back to GBB, interact with the loop browser, and drop the folder of loops with VO period. It took a few minutes for GB to rebuild the index. After rebuilding, the apple loops index folder contained 8 new entries (1 for each of my loop folders) I hope this is useful to others out there who are pulling their hair out and crying themselves to sleep over this problem. Also, if you have anything to add to this information, please do - that's how we learn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor
Switch? Is this the mac version of the windows audio conversion tool? I never new it was on mac or accessible. If there was a usable version of there video conversion software prism video converter on mac, I'd be putting up my cash this second. So far, hand break is the only way I know of to convert video files and I don't think that allows batch conversion although it has been a long time since I looked. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:03 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > Actually, vlc does some converting but I've never completely figured it out. > I've used switch to do some converting and it can convert whole directories, > etc. I think I got it online rather than on the mac store but not sure. If I > have some time I'll go look for the info. > > -- > Cheryl > > May the words of my mouth > and the meditation of my heart > be acceptable to You, Lord, > my rock and my Redeemer. > (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly >> plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an >> expensive tool for just doing that. >> I just installed a cheep app the other day called >> RightClickMp3 >> I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the >> mac app store here >> https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12 >> >> It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of >> at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files >> you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes. >> >> When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and >> you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. >> No bells and whistles, it just does what it says. >> >> I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few >> seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Danny: >> >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 7:25 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> >>> hello; do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because >>> it was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion >>> doesn't allow for ogg any more. thanks, max >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default media player for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 7:10 AM, David McLean wrote: > Vlc will play them. > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files? >> I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them >> with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a >> good app to edit ID3 tags? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! >> >> -Marc >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisiona
RE: inviting somebody to join the list
Hello Chris, I just read your comments regarding my moderation of the list and wish to thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Your words touched me in a way I would not have thought possible. Thank you so very much. Most Sincerely, Mark Chris Wrote: For a while, Mark Taylor (Dono if you know him...) was helping Cara Quin to moderate things. I was put on moderation several times, then finally got banned from the list for publicly speaking my mind. The only reason I got back on the list was because Mr. Taylor was kind and generous enough to put me back on the list despite Cara's bitching about why I as well as others shouldn't be on the list. I think mark did an excellent! and I do mean, excellent! job while he was around. I mean, list admin things were delt with within a day, if not way way sooner, and if you did have a concern about the list, or a member, you let me tell you one thing: it would be delt with quicker than you could blink an eye. That guy was phenomenally outstanding! I'd kill! to have him back on the mod team! I talked with him on the phone a few times as well, and he was one of the nicest people in the mac community I've gotten to know. One day, he basically just up and out said I'm giving up my rights as a co-mod. He really didn't go into why. I know him though. I suspect it wasn't for a lame excuse. He's reliable enough, if he said he couldn't do it anymore, I totally 100% trust it was for a good reason. Anyway, I totally nominate him to come back on board, if he is still out there reading this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why change it? Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then others don't. I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple things though. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: > I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough > was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting > windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that > are the same across the board. > On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some >> users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the >> title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of >> a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since >> they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. >> >> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which >> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: >> >>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you >>> know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so >>> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew >>> computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will >>> start to make more since. >>> >>> Kliphton Senior >>> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: >>> Hi folks. As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping blind people switching from Windows to Mac. Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some times? What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts with it before going into apps? All comments on this is really welcome. Best regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G
Re: Audio or written tutorials on Amadeus Pro from a blind perspective?
Hello, as far as I know the documentation is in a PDF form and I don't know if there is a way to convert it on the Mac? Perhaps one suggestion, is to use your virtual machine and converted in Windows. Barring that, I don't know if any of the conversion services are still in existence where you could email and/or FTP the file up to the server. Of course the other part of that is that those services might have a size limit. I do notes some basic keystrokes for this software, perhaps if you can find my number from our VMware users group file you can give me a call and we might be able to brainstorm it? Hope your day is going well, because here it is starting to snow, and in this part of the country apparently that's a big deal. Where used to live this wouldn't even draw a mention. Sincerely Maurice, and a very snowy Vancouver Washington. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
When the concept works, it's great but all the times it's broken, it sux. Some times, VO J doesn't move you between all areas you want access too. You can't always jump to a table unless your interacting with another table or similar area. Unless I don't know a cool command, there's no way to quickly move between the tool bar and the preference pane in system preferences. Oh wait on, I just found vo command p will do it. Yep, proving my point by having to do a different command to do virtually the same thing as in other apps. Consistancy is dead on the mac. It's no wonder so many newbies have trouble as they have to learn 5 methods of doing the same thing each often with multiple steps and different key strokes. Sorry, getting some frustrations off my chest. This by the way is not a mac sux rant, more just pointing out that there is still a lot of room for improvement. In our home we have 4 iPhones, and iPod touch, 2 apple tv's and 2 MacBooks so we do tend to love our apple stuff, we just don't like that apple don't always listen. They do listen some times though right?! Danny who rips off another tag line in still loving his macs and iDevices. On 15/01/2013, at 10:15 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: > Interacting, once you get used to it, is actually a wonderful thing. It > allows me to quickly skip across frames in web pages and groups of buttons, > tables, etc. > > Harry > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kerri wrote: > >> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough >> was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting >> windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that >> are the same across the board. >> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >>> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >>> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >>> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some >>> users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the >>> title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of >>> a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser >>> since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that >>> handy. >>> >>> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which >>> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: >>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will start to make more since. Kliphton Senior (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > Hi folks. > > As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping > blind people switching from Windows to Mac. > Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver > commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows > platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? > For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the > QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some > times? > What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software > (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts > with it before going into apps? > > All comments on this is really welcome. > > Best regards David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionari
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Hi there! Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the tool bar! Standard Mac command! hth Colin On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: > Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool bar > but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. head a few times> > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the >> address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the >> element you want in the toolbar. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of >>> podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML >>> area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to >>> pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific >>> thing like a heading or link. >>> >>> From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the >>> next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. >>> >>> So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting >>> with html area. :-) >>> >>> While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the >>> tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? >>> >>> Thanks to all. >>> >>> Danny: >>> >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: >>> Hi. When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. Then press command c to copy. Hope that helps. Chris On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Hi > Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy > the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can > navigate to it via the toolbar. > If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see > the old one. > Thanks. > > Lisette > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice is by default. I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower pitch. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
I think it's having pitch change enabled. And all the voices will do this lower pitch thing, kind of like on the iPhone when you encounter a text field, and you have pitch change on. I'm not sure how to disable it, or if it's possible to get the lower variation of your chosen voice to be the primary voice. On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which > voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in > mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding > something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another > contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, > yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different > fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is > speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm > wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra > voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice > is by default. > > I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend > after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really > liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower > pitch. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
wow! I didn't know about this. I see it works in other apps like Mail as well. Thanks Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:50 PM, "Red.Falcon" wrote: > Hi there! > Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the > tool bar! > Standard Mac command! > hth Colin > > On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool >> bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. > faulty head a few times> >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the >>> address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the >>> element you want in the toolbar. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > Hi. > When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current > address. > Then press command c to copy. > Hope that helps. > Chris > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi >> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy >> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can >> navigate to it via the toolbar. >> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see >> the old one. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
Are you sure you don't have a system voice turned on or you haven't selected another voice in verbosity settings in the VO Utility? I did that a long time ago and discovered it when I started hearing a Scottish voice every once in a while in background. I must have been messing with verbosity at some point and somehow set it for one of the options. Take a look in there again if you happened to be exploring in the VO Utility. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which > voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in > mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding > something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another > contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, > yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different > fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is > speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm > wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra > voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice > is by default. > > I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend > after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really > liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower > pitch. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Hi, I can honestly say, I've encountered similar things on windows using Jaws. Certain commands will work in one application, or in a certain instance, but not in another. I honestly can't say if VO on the Mac does this more or less. I guess thats pretty subjective. But, I don't think its something that only effects The Mac and VO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > When the concept works, it's great but all the times it's broken, it sux. > Some times, VO J doesn't move you between all areas you want access too. You > can't always jump to a table unless your interacting with another table or > similar area. Unless I don't know a cool command, there's no way to quickly > move between the tool bar and the preference pane in system preferences. Oh > wait on, I just found vo command p will do it. Yep, proving my point by > having to do a different command to do virtually the same thing as in other > apps. Consistancy is dead on the mac. It's no wonder so many newbies have > trouble as they have to learn 5 methods of doing the same thing each often > with multiple steps and different key strokes. > > Sorry, getting some frustrations off my chest. This by the way is not a mac > sux rant, more just pointing out that there is still a lot of room for > improvement. In our home we have 4 iPhones, and iPod touch, 2 apple tv's and > 2 MacBooks so we do tend to love our apple stuff, we just don't like that > apple don't always listen. They do listen some times though right?! > > Danny who rips off another tag line in still loving his macs and iDevices. > > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:15 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Interacting, once you get used to it, is actually a wonderful thing. It >> allows me to quickly skip across frames in web pages and groups of buttons, >> tables, etc. >> >> Harry >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kerri wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything > you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, > so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a > knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, > everything will start to make more since. > > Kliphton Senior > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi folks. >> >> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >> times? >> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >> with it before going into apps? >> >> All comments on this is really welcome. >> >> Best regards David >>
Re: inviting somebody to join the list
No problem. It was the honest truth. You should give me a call some time. I'll e-mail you my number off list. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:31 PM Subject: RE: inviting somebody to join the list Hello Chris, I just read your comments regarding my moderation of the list and wish to thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Your words touched me in a way I would not have thought possible. Thank you so very much. Most Sincerely, Mark Chris Wrote: For a while, Mark Taylor (Dono if you know him...) was helping Cara Quin to moderate things. I was put on moderation several times, then finally got banned from the list for publicly speaking my mind. The only reason I got back on the list was because Mr. Taylor was kind and generous enough to put me back on the list despite Cara's bitching about why I as well as others shouldn't be on the list. I think mark did an excellent! and I do mean, excellent! job while he was around. I mean, list admin things were delt with within a day, if not way way sooner, and if you did have a concern about the list, or a member, you let me tell you one thing: it would be delt with quicker than you could blink an eye. That guy was phenomenally outstanding! I'd kill! to have him back on the mod team! I talked with him on the phone a few times as well, and he was one of the nicest people in the mac community I've gotten to know. One day, he basically just up and out said I'm giving up my rights as a co-mod. He really didn't go into why. I know him though. I suspect it wasn't for a lame excuse. He's reliable enough, if he said he couldn't do it anymore, I totally 100% trust it was for a good reason. Anyway, I totally nominate him to come back on board, if he is still out there reading this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
it it tom? On 2013-01-14, at 3:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which > voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in > mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding > something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another > contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, > yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different > fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is > speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm > wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra > voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice > is by default. > > I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend > after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really > liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower > pitch. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Hello, I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is nothing gained by interacting in the finder. > I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine > using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies > bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut > but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end > with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why > change it? > > Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways to > do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then > others don't. > > I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics > of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. > > Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I > can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple > things though. > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: > >> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough >> was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting >> windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that >> are the same across the board. >> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >>> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >>> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >>> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some >>> users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the >>> title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of >>> a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser >>> since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that >>> handy. >>> >>> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which >>> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: >>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will start to make more since. Kliphton Senior (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > Hi folks. > > As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping > blind people switching from Windows to Mac. > Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver > commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows > platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? > For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the > QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some > times? > What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software > (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts > with it before going into apps? > > All comments on this is really welcome. > > Best regards David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
I agree it's not just the mac. In windows it's fairly standard in the OS and core software like mail ie windows explorer etc. I also understand my using windows for so long means I'm some what blinkered to its inconsistencies and a life long mac user would likely have as many problems moving to windows. Danny. Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 11:02 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I can honestly say, I've encountered similar things on windows using Jaws. > Certain commands will work in one application, or in a certain instance, but > not in another. I honestly can't say if VO on the Mac does this more or > less. I guess thats pretty subjective. But, I don't think its something > that only effects The Mac and VO. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> When the concept works, it's great but all the times it's broken, it sux. >> Some times, VO J doesn't move you between all areas you want access too. You >> can't always jump to a table unless your interacting with another table or >> similar area. Unless I don't know a cool command, there's no way to quickly >> move between the tool bar and the preference pane in system preferences. Oh >> wait on, I just found vo command p will do it. Yep, proving my point by >> having to do a different command to do virtually the same thing as in other >> apps. Consistancy is dead on the mac. It's no wonder so many newbies have >> trouble as they have to learn 5 methods of doing the same thing each often >> with multiple steps and different key strokes. >> >> Sorry, getting some frustrations off my chest. This by the way is not a mac >> sux rant, more just pointing out that there is still a lot of room for >> improvement. In our home we have 4 iPhones, and iPod touch, 2 apple tv's and >> 2 MacBooks so we do tend to love our apple stuff, we just don't like that >> apple don't always listen. They do listen some times though right?! >> >> Danny who rips off another tag line in still loving his macs and iDevices. >> >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 10:15 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: >> >>> Interacting, once you get used to it, is actually a wonderful thing. It >>> allows me to quickly skip across frames in web pages and groups of buttons, >>> tables, etc. >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kerri wrote: >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that are the same across the board. On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and > sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples > pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across > the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. > Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read > the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the > title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application > chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better > having that handy. > > I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on > which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through > the ontario disability support program at > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > >> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything >> you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and >> day, so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your >> not a knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, >> everything will start to make more since. >> >> Kliphton Senior >> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: >> >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from th
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Hi, I used to interact a lot when I was new, though I never did wight he finder. However, I have a nutty question so feel free to run me out of here. Do people who have or used to have sight find it easier because they can visualize the window and what it looked like? I have become better since someone gave me something else to picture, I believe it was mr. Gilland but at first, that interacting about drove me worse mad than I already am. On 2013-01-14, at 4:16 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many > people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this > mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a > Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources > table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally > unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items > in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no > real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting > to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is > nothing gained by interacting in the finder. > >> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine >> using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies >> bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut >> but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end >> with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why >> change it? >> >> Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways >> to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then >> others don't. >> >> I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics >> of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. >> >> Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I >> can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple >> things though. >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything > you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, > so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a > knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, > everything will start to make more since. > > Kliphton Senior > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi folks. >> >> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
If though you had a command to move to the top of a list with out having to interact each time I'd be much happier vo shift home is painful if you forget to interact first. Apparently before lion this was much easier. I do long for home, end, page up and down to work a tad more like in windows. Having said this, I find myself interacting a lot less lately in many situations. Danny Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 11:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many > people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this > mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a > Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources > table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally > unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items > in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no > real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting > to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is > nothing gained by interacting in the finder. > >> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine >> using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies >> bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut >> but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end >> with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why >> change it? >> >> Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways >> to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then >> others don't. >> >> I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics >> of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. >> >> Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I >> can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple >> things though. >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything > you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, > so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a > knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, > everything will start to make more since. > > Kliphton Senior > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi folks. >> >> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >> platform, and learn Mac the best
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Hello Everyone, I use a wonderfully VoiceOver accessible eBook creator called Storyist, on my Mac. The developer has taken every consideration into account with regard to blind and low vision users. The thing I like most is that Storyist, assuming that you have used heading levels in your document, will generate a table of contents. If your document does not have headings, you can add headings from within Storyist. The direct URL for the Storyist website is http://storyist.com Now for my shameless plug: I am delighted to let you know that my latest novel entitled "The Dream Factory", has just been published. Just so you know, I write under the pseudonym of Mark Marcus. The website for the book, which includes an audio reading sample, a preview of the text, and purchasing options is located at: http://candleshorepublishing.com/dreamfactory The book may be downloaded directly to any Apple device, the Kindle, or purchased from Amazon.com in paperback form. The cost of the eBook version is $2.99 and the paperback version is $5.99. This book is intended for general audiences ages 17 and up. There is no "adult" content. The following link will play a short audio introduction to the book: http://candleshorepublishing.com/dreamfactory/bookdemo/DreamFactoryIntroComm ercial.mp3 To go directly to the book in the iTunes Store, click the following link on any computer or from within an Apple device:: https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-dream-factory/id591504963?mt=11 After my signature, I will paste in the book preface and a short preview chapter. Thank you all for your support. Most Sincerely, Mark BOOK PREFACE: Welcome to the Dream Factory, a warm, cozy, and extremely lovely place where only the most visceral nightmares and pleasure-driven musings of its residents are mercilessly extracted and sold for the pure enjoyment of others. Step cautiously as you explore the dimly lighted, extremely narrow, and virtually suffocating hallways as groans, screams, moans, and indefinable exclamations of unnamed perpetrators, innocent bystanders, and unlikely victims, escape from behind coffin lid doors, reach into the very depths of your soul, lace icy cold fingers around the heart of your sanity and begin to squeeze. In this, the second tale from the mind of Mark Marcus, we are taken on a highly selective and undeniably insightful excursion into the unplumbed dark regions of the human psyche as it tears itself apart separating and exposing the raw untamed fury inside from the barely contained and seemingly unmarred and untouched flawlessly veneered outside. This book will appeal to all those who have ever screamed themselves awake, in the midnight hour, only to discover that the true nightmare, from which there is no escape, has only just begun. BOOK PREVIEW: CHAPTER NINE A: What is your first name? P: What? A: I said, what is your first name? P: What a silly question. You know my first name. (The discharge administrator looks at the woman seated in front of her, sternly.) A: I know I told you that nothing you say can or will be used against you but if you don't answer my questions I cannot approve your release. Do you understand? P (somewhat alarmed): Yes. I understand. (The discharge administrator returns her gaze to the paperwork on the table.) A: So, let's start again. First name? (The woman seated across from the discharge administrator opens her mouth to speak and then closes it slowly.) P: I'm not sure. (Tears fill her eyes and she raises her hands to wipe them away.) A (not looking up): That's okay. Just sit and think for a moment. It should come to you. If not, we won't worry about it. (The patient is visibly relieved.) A: Next question, age? P: I'm thirty-seven, yes, I am thirty-seven years old. A: Date of birth? P: It's--it's in February. I can't remember. I think it's February 6 but I'm not sure. A: Favorite color? P: I don't have one. At least, if I did, I don't anymore. A: What is your last name? P: Jax. My last name is Jax. A: First name? P: I don't know. A: Where were you born? P: Louisville, Kentucky. A: What is good? P: Pardon me? A: I said, what is good? P (with a look of confusion): I don't know how to answer that. I don't know what you mean. What is good? Am I to give you a definition? A: You may answer in any way you wish, Miss Jax, anyway at all. (The patient raises her head as if in some kind of unspoken defiance.) P: Getting out of this place is good. Good is anything that doesn't have to do with the Dream Factory. Is that an honest enough answer for you? (A slightly hysterical giggle escapes the patient, at this.) (The discharge administrator, raising her eyebrows ever so slightly, continues.) A: What is bad? P: Bad is not being able to recall my own first name. Bad is realizing that what feels like three years has only been three weeks. Bad is never wanting to close my eyes, in order to sleep,
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
What helped me the most was my dealings with iOs. I got used to most of the keyboard commands with my bluetooth keyboard, so I was pretty prepared to take on the mac when I got it. Sent from my iPod with iCloud On 14 Jan 2013, at 6:30 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: If though you had a command to move to the top of a list with out having to interact each time I'd be much happier vo shift home is painful if you forget to interact first. Apparently before lion this was much easier. I do long for home, end, page up and down to work a tad more like in windows. Having said this, I find myself interacting a lot less lately in many situations. Danny Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 11:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many > people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this > mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a > Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources > table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally > unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items > in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no > real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting > to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is > nothing gained by interacting in the finder. > >> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine >> using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies >> bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut >> but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end >> with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why >> change it? >> >> Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways >> to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then >> others don't. >> >> I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics >> of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. >> >> Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I >> can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple >> things though. >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything > you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, > so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a > knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, > everything will start to make more since. > > Kliphton Senior > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi folks. >> >> As far as I know, there are many here in t
Re: inviting somebody to join the list
I should like to second what Chris has indicated here. First rate job Mark. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > No problem. It was the honest truth. You should give me a call some time. > > I'll e-mail you my number off list. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:31 PM > Subject: RE: inviting somebody to join the list > > > Hello Chris, > > I just read your comments regarding my moderation of the list and wish to > thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Your words touched me in a way I > would not have thought possible. > > Thank you so very much. > > Most Sincerely, > > Mark > > Chris Wrote: > For a while, Mark Taylor (Dono if you know him...) was helping Cara Quin to > moderate things. I was put on moderation several times, then finally got > banned from the list for publicly speaking my mind. The only reason I got > back on the list was because Mr. Taylor was kind and generous enough to put > me back on the list despite Cara's bitching about why I as well as others > shouldn't be on the list. I think mark did an excellent! and I do mean, > excellent! job while he was around. I mean, list admin things were delt > with within a day, if not way way sooner, and if you did have a concern > about the list, or a member, you let me tell you one thing: it would be delt > with quicker than you could blink an eye. That guy was phenomenally > outstanding! I'd kill! to have him back on the mod team! I talked with him > on the phone a few times as well, and he was one of the nicest people in the > mac community I've gotten to know. One day, he basically just up and out > said I'm giving up my rights as a co-mod. He really didn't go into why. I > know him though. I suspect it wasn't for a lame excuse. He's reliable > enough, if he said he couldn't do it anymore, I totally 100% trust it was > for a good reason. Anyway, I totally nominate him to come back on board, if > he is still out there reading this. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: request receipts
>From what I can tell, it seems not to be possible. A shame I suppose. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Kerri wrote: > Hello, all. It it possible to send read receipts in email? I don't use them > much but just wanted to know. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audio or written tutorials on Amadeus Pro from a blind perspective?
Uhm, maybe this can help: 1, in Preview, save as text. 2, simply email the pdf to conv...@robobraille.org You will get back plain text. HTH, John S - Original Message - From: Maurice Mines To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Audio or written tutorials on Amadeus Pro from a blind perspective? Hello, as far as I know the documentation is in a PDF form and I don't know if there is a way to convert it on the Mac? Perhaps one suggestion, is to use your virtual machine and converted in Windows. Barring that, I don't know if any of the conversion services are still in existence where you could email and/or FTP the file up to the server. Of course the other part of that is that those services might have a size limit. I do notes some basic keystrokes for this software, perhaps if you can find my number from our VMware users group file you can give me a call and we might be able to brainstorm it? Hope your day is going well, because here it is starting to snow, and in this part of the country apparently that's a big deal. Where used to live this wouldn't even draw a mention. Sincerely Maurice, and a very snowy Vancouver Washington. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
Ah, that is the disgustingly pitchshifted Samantha. Just record her and change the pitch with whatever audio editor you use and you'll at some point come to the sound of that cool voice of yours, unless for're using some other voice for text fields, but I'm pretty sure its Samantha just pitched down badly. Se, with the compact voices, pitch change is supported by the synth, but with premium, they have todo it with bad audio pitch shifting, not like the way they dowith Aleit and stillusff. Sent from my iPod with iCloud On 14 Jan 2013, at 5:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice is by default. I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower pitch. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
I firmly believe that my computer knowledge has greatly assisted me in learning the Mac. I started out back in the dark ages as a DOS user. Then I moved to Windows and used it through version 7. What I think both operating systems have in common is that both run computers. In other words, in both the Mac and Windows platforms there are concepts that both use. You have to learn email clients, file management and the like. Using a screen reader makes the experience somewhat different, but the basics of computer use still apply. I used to interact way more than I needed to, and learning when and when not to do it is a good plan. I guess what I'm saying here that if you are a fairly competent Windows user, as long as you can accept change, you'll find the things you'll want to do are the same, but the manner in which you do them can be somewhat different. I actually like command c for copy and command option v for move. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many > people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this > mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a > Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources > table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally > unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items > in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no > real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting > to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is > nothing gained by interacting in the finder. > >> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine >> using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies >> bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut >> but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end >> with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why >> change it? >> >> Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways >> to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then >> others don't. >> >> I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics >> of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. >> >> Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I >> can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple >> things though. >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything > you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, > so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a > knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, > everything will start to make more since. > > Kliphto
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Hi, This often depends on the list. Option up/down arrow works in many situations. For example, in the finder and YoruFukurou. I've also made a shortcut with the keyboard commander and my trackpad commander to lesson the keystrokes for when option up/down arrow doesn't work. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > If though you had a command to move to the top of a list with out having to > interact each time I'd be much happier vo shift home is painful if you forget > to interact first. Apparently before lion this was much easier. I do long for > home, end, page up and down to work a tad more like in windows. > > Having said this, I find myself interacting a lot less lately in many > situations. > > Danny > > > Sent from my phone > > On 15/01/2013, at 11:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many >> people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this >> mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a >> Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the >> sources table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. >> Totally unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of >> the items in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many >> interact for no real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the >> finder. Unless wanting to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, >> generally speaking, there is nothing gained by interacting in the finder. >> >>> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine >>> using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies >>> bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut >>> but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other >>> end with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why >>> change it? >>> >>> Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways >>> to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then >>> others don't. >>> >>> I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other >>> aspics of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. >>> >>> Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I >>> can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few >>> simple things though. >>> >>> Danny: >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that are the same across the board. On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and > sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples > pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across > the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. > Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read > the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the > title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application > chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better > having that handy. > > I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on > which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through > the ontario disability support program at > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: > >> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything >> you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and >> day, so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your >> not a knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, >> everything will start to make more since. >> >> Kliphton Senior >> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >> (Personal blog-rea
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the apple and extra menu commands etc are making my life so much easier. Many thanks. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the > tool bar! > Standard Mac command! > hth Colin > > On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool >> bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. > faulty head a few times> >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the >>> address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the >>> element you want in the toolbar. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > Hi. > When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current > address. > Then press command c to copy. > Hope that helps. > Chris > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi >> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy >> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can >> navigate to it via the toolbar. >> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see >> the old one. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://g
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Can you please share to us what you have found? It is very helpful especially for us new Mac users. Thank you. - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the apple and extra menu commands etc are making my life so much easier. Many thanks. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the tool bar! Standard Mac command! hth Colin On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the element you want in the toolbar. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Hi. When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. Then press command c to copy. Hope that helps. Chris On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to it via the toolbar. If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the old one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsu
Re: request receipts
Which is ironic and sadly funny as you can do it with iMessages on the iPhone even. :-0 Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 12:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > From what I can tell, it seems not to be possible. A shame I suppose. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Kerri wrote: > >> Hello, all. It it possible to send read receipts in email? I don't use them >> much but just wanted to know. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
That's very helpful. I new option up and down used to work in mail but never new it worked else ware. That will simplify finder etc quite a lot. Danny: Always learning, never shutting up. On 15/01/2013, at 12:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > This often depends on the list. Option up/down arrow works in many > situations. For example, in the finder and YoruFukurou. I've also made a > shortcut with the keyboard commander and my trackpad commander to lesson the > keystrokes for when option up/down arrow doesn't work. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > >> If though you had a command to move to the top of a list with out having to >> interact each time I'd be much happier vo shift home is painful if you >> forget to interact first. Apparently before lion this was much easier. I do >> long for home, end, page up and down to work a tad more like in windows. >> >> Having said this, I find myself interacting a lot less lately in many >> situations. >> >> Danny >> >> >> Sent from my phone >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 11:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many >>> people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this >>> mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a >>> Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the >>> sources table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. >>> Totally unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of >>> the items in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many >>> interact for no real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the >>> finder. Unless wanting to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, >>> generally speaking, there is nothing gained by interacting in the finder. >>> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why change it? Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then others don't. I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple things though. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri wrote: > I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found > tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But > forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the > concepts that are the same across the board. > On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same >> across the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and >> copying/pasting. Some users Won't move on without their creature >> comforts. How do I read the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke >> that lets them read the title of a window, even if I have to then >> explain about the application chooser since they are on the same >> keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. >> >> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on >> which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through >> the ontario disability support program at >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: >> >>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything >>> you know about windows! The 2 systems are as di
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
Really? As it honestly doesn't sound like Samantha in a lower voice, and the odd thing is, why though is she! doing it, but not Alex? Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "Rachel Feinberg" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!? I think it's having pitch change enabled. And all the voices will do this lower pitch thing, kind of like on the iPhone when you encounter a text field, and you have pitch change on. I'm not sure how to disable it, or if it's possible to get the lower variation of your chosen voice to be the primary voice. On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice is by default. I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower pitch. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
My system voice is Alex which this is definitely not, and all the bverbosity things are definitely set to default. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!? Are you sure you don't have a system voice turned on or you haven't selected another voice in verbosity settings in the VO Utility? I did that a long time ago and discovered it when I started hearing a Scottish voice every once in a while in background. I must have been messing with verbosity at some point and somehow set it for one of the options. Take a look in there again if you happened to be exploring in the VO Utility. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice is by default. I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower pitch. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RS Games client question
I have 2 questions. 1. In the current client, is there a way to use the voice clips feature?] 2. Since the client uses the system voice rather than Voice Over, is there a way to quickly silence the speech? Thanks in advance. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
We thought it may a been, but upon closer listenning, no, it's definitely not. It almost sounds like Bruce, but not totally sure. We also have confirmed it's not something I set wrong, as the guy I spoke with at Apple Accessibility was able to reproduce the exact behavior. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: "Kerri" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!? it it tom? On 2013-01-14, at 3:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male voice is by default. I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower pitch. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
Chris, can you give us a demo of the voice? That way we might be able to help. On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:02 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > My system voice is Alex which this is definitely not, and all the bverbosity > things are definitely set to default. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!? > > > Are you sure you don't have a system voice turned on or you haven't selected > another voice in verbosity settings in the VO Utility? I did that a long > time ago and discovered it when I started hearing a Scottish voice every once > in a while in background. I must have been messing with verbosity at some > point and somehow set it for one of the options. Take a look in there again > if you happened to be exploring in the VO Utility. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > wrote: > >> OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which >> voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in >> mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm >> finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create >> another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail >> fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits >> different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which >> is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. >> I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any >> extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male >> voice is by default. >> >> I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend >> after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really >> liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower >> pitch. >> >> Chris Gilland. >> Founder of CLG Productions >> http://www.clgproductions.com >> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com >> Phone: 803-760-7136 >> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 >> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: RS Games client question
Hi Dave. With the client, press control+r to record. Then again to stop recording. If you want to listen to a cording, press command l. The only way i have found to quickly silence speech is to keep hitting control. On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:03 PM, "Dave" wrote: > I have 2 questions. > > 1. In the current client, is there a way to use the voice clips feature?] > > 2. Since the client uses the system voice rather than Voice Over, is there a > way to quickly silence the speech? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!?
OK, then it could be the pitch change as earlier suggested. Samantha and some of the other voices have this odd pitch change at times. I was told by a sighted person that Samantha almost sounds "demonic" when the pitch shifts down low. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:02 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > My system voice is Alex which this is definitely not, and all the bverbosity > things are definitely set to default. > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: Love! this voice, but which one is it!? > > > Are you sure you don't have a system voice turned on or you haven't selected > another voice in verbosity settings in the VO Utility? I did that a long > time ago and discovered it when I started hearing a Scottish voice every once > in a while in background. I must have been messing with verbosity at some > point and somehow set it for one of the options. Take a look in there again > if you happened to be exploring in the VO Utility. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:51 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > wrote: > >> OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which >> voice it is that is doing this, as I love it! I switched my voice in >> mountain Lion over to Samantha. I used to have it on Alex. Now, I'm >> finding something interesting. If I go into contacts, then go to create >> another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail >> fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits >> different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice which >> is speaking. It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred either. >> I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible! I don't have any >> extra voices installed. This is an o s x thing, so, it's whatever that male >> voice is by default. >> >> I really wanna know though as he is really! good. I remember another friend >> after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and really really >> liking it. He said he thought it was Samantha but at an extremely! lower >> pitch. >> >> Chris Gilland. >> Founder of CLG Productions >> http://www.clgproductions.com >> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com >> Phone: 803-760-7136 >> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 >> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Combining some control mac keyboard commands. If I've gotten any wrong, or someone has a better description, please let us know. If I use the word toggle, it means pressing once will do the action and pressing again will reverse it. IE, Ctrl f2, toggle between current application and apple menu. VO m will open the apple menu but pressing it again will toggle it to the extras menu and back to the apple menu.. Control f3 : toggle between current application and the doc. Control f4: Seems to move between all open windows regardless of application but doesn't move backwards or return to the window you started from. Control f5: Toggle between the tool bar and main application area. Control f7: move through edit fields much like the tab key does if set up a certain way. IE, when writing a message, moves between to, from, cc, subject message body etc. Control f8: toggle between current application and extras menu. Plus, all the go commands that work in finder. The shortcuts can be found from the go menu in finder. EG, command shift d, desktop, command option l downloads folder. And then, command E to eject drives or devices in iTunes,, command I to get info on files in finder and songs/albums etc in iTunes. There are lots more but I'm running out the door. Danny: PS, I know i meant to say EG and at times said IE, no time to correct. On 15/01/2013, at 12:41 PM, "Estelita" wrote: > Can you please share to us what you have found? > It is very helpful especially for us new Mac users. > Thank you. > > - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address > bar in Safari > > > And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac > commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the > apple and extra menu commands etc are making my life so much easier. > > Many thanks. > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon > wrote: > >> Hi there! >> Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the >> tool bar! >> Standard Mac command! >> hth Colin >> >> On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >>> Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool >>> bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. >> faulty head a few times> >>> >>> Danny: >>> >>> On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the element you want in the toolbar. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of > podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML > area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to > pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific > thing like a heading or link. > > From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the > next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first > heading/link…. > > So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , > interacting with html area. :-) > > While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the > tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? > > Thanks to all. > > Danny: > > > On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > >> Hi. >> When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current >> address. >> Then press command c to copy. >> Hope that helps. >> Chris >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can >>> copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I >>> can navigate to it via the toolbar. >>> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't >>> see the old one. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Hello Estelita, What Danny means is that the Control+F5 command sequence moves you between the title bar and the pane, depending on where your current focus is. Just as an example, if you have brought up the Preferences pane for an application with Command+comma, pressing Control+F5 will jump between the toolbar and the selected pane. As Colin mentioned, this is a general Mac keyboard shortcut for moving to the toolbar. If you use this you do not have to interact with the toolbar before you navigate to the various toolbar options and select them. And you can also use this to toggle focus between the selected pane and the toolbar. This is one of the reasons that Anne Robertson and others who commented about teaching new Mac users stressed the importance of instructing them on the default Apple keyboard shortcuts that are not VoiceOver-specific. A lot of new users ask for a list of all VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts without realizing that Apple has built many standard shortcuts that are not VoiceOver specific into the operating system. And using the Control+F5 shortcut as a way of minimizing the need to interact with a toolbar has been around since this list started (i.e., there are references in the old list archives at the Mail Archive site that are at least 6 or 7 years old). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 14, 2013, at 15:41, Estelita wrote: > Can you please share to us what you have found? > It is very helpful especially for us new Mac users. > Thank you. > > - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address > bar in Safari > > > And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac > commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the > apple and extra menu commands etc are making my life so much easier. > > Many thanks. > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon > wrote: > >> Hi there! >> Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the >> tool bar! >> Standard Mac command! >> hth Colin >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessible iOS sound editor
Hello everyone How are you? I am new to do list, and so far, it seems to me that everybody is very knowledgeable about various Mac, and iOS devices. I was wondering if any of you could recommend an accessible iOS app that is for sound editing. Hopefully, this'll be a native iPad app, so I won't have to worry about portrait versus landscape orientation. Normally, what happens is when app is an iPhone app, there's an option that you used to display it within fullscreen. I find that quite a problem. So, I would appreciate any recommendations. Thank you all for your time and have a great day. Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Thanks a lot for this valuable tips, you've done a good job of finding these keystrokes, keep up the good work! - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:12 AM Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari Combining some control mac keyboard commands. If I've gotten any wrong, or someone has a better description, please let us know. If I use the word toggle, it means pressing once will do the action and pressing again will reverse it. IE, Ctrl f2, toggle between current application and apple menu. VO m will open the apple menu but pressing it again will toggle it to the extras menu and back to the apple menu.. Control f3 : toggle between current application and the doc. Control f4: Seems to move between all open windows regardless of application but doesn't move backwards or return to the window you started from. Control f5: Toggle between the tool bar and main application area. Control f7: move through edit fields much like the tab key does if set up a certain way. IE, when writing a message, moves between to, from, cc, subject message body etc. Control f8: toggle between current application and extras menu. Plus, all the go commands that work in finder. The shortcuts can be found from the go menu in finder. EG, command shift d, desktop, command option l downloads folder. And then, command E to eject drives or devices in iTunes,, command I to get info on files in finder and songs/albums etc in iTunes. There are lots more but I'm running out the door. Danny: PS, I know i meant to say EG and at times said IE, no time to correct. On 15/01/2013, at 12:41 PM, "Estelita" wrote: Can you please share to us what you have found? It is very helpful especially for us new Mac users. Thank you. - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the apple and extra menu commands etc are making my life so much easier. Many thanks. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the tool bar! Standard Mac command! hth Colin On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the element you want in the toolbar. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Hi. When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. Then press command c to copy. Hope that helps. Chris On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to it via the toolbar. If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the old one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups
Re: Accessible iOS sound editor
I don't know about accessibility, however Apple has a reputation of making most of their default applications accessible. Therefore, it was worth trying GarageBand. I believe it's a five dollar application. Or, for free audio editing, there is, hokusi Of which I've met as spelt it. Therefore, please do a search for "three, audio editing applications, iOS, voiceover, demo". This would provide you a link to the Apple viz. website that done a wonderful review of this application. It allows you to do multi track editing. Hope this helps a little http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one step at a time. On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Eric Heil wrote: > Hello everyone > How are you? I am new to do list, and so far, it seems to me that everybody > is very knowledgeable about various Mac, and iOS devices. I was wondering if > any of you could recommend an accessible iOS app that is for sound editing. > Hopefully, this'll be a native iPad app, so I won't have to worry about > portrait versus landscape orientation. Normally, what happens is when app is > an iPhone app, there's an option that you used to display it within > fullscreen. I find that quite a problem. So, I would appreciate any > recommendations. Thank you all for your time and have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: request receipts
Oddly enough, I was just wonderring this earlier today. Let me do some research. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:15 PM Subject: Re: request receipts From what I can tell, it seems not to be possible. A shame I suppose. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Kerri wrote: Hello, all. It it possible to send read receipts in email? I don't use them much but just wanted to know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible iOS sound editor
Hello Eric, Try Hokusai Audio Editor, which is a free app and also universal, so it will work on your iPad without having to be scaled up. It will also work in either portrait or landscape orientation. There's an AppleVis podcast on "Getting Started With Hokusai, a Free and Fully Accessible Multitrack Audio Editor For iOS" as well as the app listing at that site. Here's the link: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/getting-started-hokusai-free-and-fully-accessible-multitrack-audio-editor-ios In case that link wraps, here's a shortened version that should also work: http://bit.ly/11vO6jR And here's the URL for Hokusai at the app store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hokusai-audio-editor/id432079746?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 14, 2013, at 16:19, Eric Heil wrote: > Hello everyone > How are you? I am new to do list, and so far, it seems to me that everybody > is very knowledgeable about various Mac, and iOS devices. I was wondering if > any of you could recommend an accessible iOS app that is for sound editing. > Hopefully, this'll be a native iPad app, so I won't have to worry about > portrait versus landscape orientation. Normally, what happens is when app is > an iPhone app, there's an option that you used to display it within > fullscreen. I find that quite a problem. So, I would appreciate any > recommendations. Thank you all for your time and have a great day. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: GarageBand loop browser problem revisited
Phil, This is also the way it is on the Ipad as well. I didn't even think to lay that out for you when I found this out. On 01/14/2013 16:18, Phil Halton wrote: Okay, you're all probably a little tired of this subject by now, but I have found what I think is the problem and its solution, and think I should detail it here for future reference. It seems that a project must be in 4/4 time signature for the loop browser to work. My project was in cut time (2/4) and I decided to create a new project in 4/4 and voila, loops all over the place - the place was lousy with them! Then, to confirm my suspiscion I created another project, in 2/4 time again, and not a loop to be found. I guess it makes sense as apple loops are created with a certain beat information embedded in the file and its probably based on a time signature of 4/4. Anything other than that brings up no matchs in the loop browser's sick logic. I suppose I should experiment with other time sigs (3/4 etc) to see what the limitations actually are, but for now, this is big news for me and a big relief (I was beginning to think Apple had it out for me personally) Oh yeah, I also successfuly rebuilt the apple loop index as follows in case there is interest. (this procedure comes from Apple support pages and several other sources on the web) 1) deleted all the entries in the /library/audio/apple loops index/ folder. 2) open GarageBand and try to open the loop browser, GB reports that there are no loops installed. 3) drag the /library/audio/apple loops/ folder and drop it on GB's loop browser. to do this I found it necessary to: 1) place GB and Finder side-by-side on the screen with the resize window functions (VO shift tilda) 2) Mark the Apple Loops folder with VO comma 3) command tab back to GBB, interact with the loop browser, and drop the folder of loops with VO period. It took a few minutes for GB to rebuild the index. After rebuilding, the apple loops index folder contained 8 new entries (1 for each of my loop folders) I hope this is useful to others out there who are pulling their hair out and crying themselves to sleep over this problem. Also, if you have anything to add to this information, please do - that's how we learn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: GarageBand loop browser problem revisited
Phil, Indeed, all of the "included" loops in Garageband are in 4/4 time. When you purchase Main Stage, Apple's live performance tool for $29.00, you can download all of the additional Apple Loops. It's a very good deal, as all of the packs used to cost something in the neighborhood of $129 a piece. Anyway, there are a small amount of 3/4, 6/8, & 12/8 loops in these additional packs. However, it's pretty limited, still. So, IMO, you've got to start purchasing, downloading, scavenging other time signature loops. Good luck, CJ On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Phil Halton wrote: > Okay, you're all probably a little tired of this subject by now, but I have > found what I think is the problem and its solution, and think I should detail > it here for future reference. > > It seems that a project must be in 4/4 time signature for the loop browser to > work. My project was in cut time (2/4) and I decided to create a new project > in 4/4 and voila, loops all over the place - the place was lousy with them! > > Then, to confirm my suspiscion I created another project, in 2/4 time again, > and not a loop to be found. > > I guess it makes sense as apple loops are created with a certain beat > information embedded in the file and its probably based on a time signature > of 4/4. Anything other than that brings up no matchs in the loop browser's > sick logic. > > I suppose I should experiment with other time sigs (3/4 etc) to see what the > limitations actually are, but for now, this is big news for me and a big > relief (I was beginning to think Apple had it out for me personally) > > Oh yeah, I also successfuly rebuilt the apple loop index as follows in case > there is interest. > (this procedure comes from Apple support pages and several other sources on > the web) > > 1) deleted all the entries in the /library/audio/apple loops index/ folder. > 2) open GarageBand and try to open the loop browser, GB reports that there > are no loops installed. > 3) drag the /library/audio/apple loops/ folder and drop it on GB's loop > browser. > > to do this I found it necessary to: > 1) place GB and Finder side-by-side on the screen with the resize window > functions (VO shift tilda) > 2) Mark the Apple Loops folder with VO comma > 3) command tab back to GBB, interact with the loop browser, and drop the > folder of loops with VO period. > > It took a few minutes for GB to rebuild the index. After rebuilding, the > apple loops index folder contained 8 new entries (1 for each of my loop > folders) > > I hope this is useful to others out there who are pulling their hair out and > crying themselves to sleep over this problem. > > Also, if you have anything to add to this information, please do - that's how > we learn. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sorry iTunes again
Hi How do you locate specific albums in the albums grid in iTunes 11. I've turned on the side bar so I get to the music table. I've checked the albums radio button and see the album grid. The albums are not even arranged alphabetically, but somehow randomly. How do you find anything in there? And once you do, why is it that sometimes you can interact with an album (it says album details group), and most other times this is not spoken and I can't interact to get individual track names for that album. If you choose the songs tab, you get all your songs in a great list and can't find anything either. I know I can search for stuff, but is there another way to find your music in iTunes? I'm sure I've missed something somewhere. Podcasts work much better. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
yes, the command is command-L. it'll put you in the toolbar in the address field. - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:01 PM Subject: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Hi. When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. Then press command c to copy. Hope that helps. Chris On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to it via the toolbar. If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the old one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari
control F5 isn't working for me in safari. I've known about this command, and used alot in other apps, but it only seems to work when there is a "back" button in the toolbar. In safari, there is a back/forward group, and control F5 ain't doing nothin' - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the apple and extra menu commands etc are making my life so much easier. Many thanks. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the tool bar! Standard Mac command! hth Colin On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan wrote: Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Sure. Press command L or, command option F. That brings you into the address/search field in the toolbar. From there, just navigate to the element you want in the toolbar. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: I snatched a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific thing like a heading or link. From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first heading/link…. So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , interacting with html area. :-) While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home? Thanks to all. Danny: On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Hi. When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current address. Then press command c to copy. Hope that helps. Chris On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can navigate to it via the toolbar. If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see the old one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" g
