Text Expander from Smile Software

[Harry Hogue]

Hi, guys,

I would be very surprised if there isn't at least one member of this list who 
doesn't already use this application, but I just heard about it tonight on a 
podcast, and just now downloaded the free trial (the full version may be 
purchased for $35.00).  It is called Text Expander, and it allows you to assign 
abbreviations to type out your e-mail address, your e-mail signature, your home 
address, or even entire paragraphs of text.  If I had text expander running, 
for example, I could type, "You may contact me at ;em if you have any 
questions."  Then, the ";em" (without the quotes) would become my e-mail 
address.  It is fully accessible, and in fact mentions enabling universal 
access at the outset.  I will warn that it is a bit pesky at first, at least 
with the trial, as it wants yo to purchase, then sign up for the news letter, 
etc. but it truly does seem like a fantastic application.  Again, it is $35.00 
and runs on the Mac OS.  A feature which seems very useful, but which I have 
yet to try, is an ability to fill in custom fields when writing a reply,.  The 
example they give is for a response to a donation to a company, where the 
responder wishes to thank the donor and tell ways in which his or her specific 
dollar amount will be used.  I can definitely see myself using it when filling 
out online forms which constantly ask for name, e-mail, home address, 
telephone, cell, etc.

The website is www.smilesoftware.com/textexpander.  I haven't looked at any of 
the other applications on the site yet, and I was very surprised to find this 
worked as well as it does and is as accessible as it is.  So far, it is 
completely useable.  The only interesting point is that the test areas in the 
tutorial, where you go to set up the various snippets, as it calls the 
abbreviations for text to be inserted, is that the test area to try the 
abbreviations out do not work, at least when I tried it.

Again, if you have any questions feel free to ask.  I have just started using 
it, as of about ten minutes ago, but it truly seems fantastic.  For those with 
some sight, visuals such as images may also be inserted.

Take care.  Is anyone else looking forward to seeing how the dictation feature 
may or may not work so well in Mountain Lion?  I'm always unsure of dictation 
programs and things of that sort.

Take care,

Harry

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Re: Text Expander from Smile Software

[William Windels]

Hello Harry,
I haven't bought this app for the mac but on the iPhone, it was very accessible.
On the mac, I find it very expensive while there is a free alternative built in 
to the mac which is doing basically  the same.
If you go to system preferences > keyboard > tab control keyboard > button 
input sources > text: you can do there the same. a difference could be that you 
can't type whole paragraphs because the return/enter key isn't accepted.
For this reason , I don't buy text expander for the mac.

If there are comments from others about that, please feel free to give a 
reaction.

kind regards,
William Windels 
Op 25-jul.-2012, om 10:30 heeft Harry Hogue het volgende geschreven:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> I would be very surprised if there isn't at least one member of this list who 
> doesn't already use this application, but I just heard about it tonight on a 
> podcast, and just now downloaded the free trial (the full version may be 
> purchased for $35.00).  It is called Text Expander, and it allows you to 
> assign abbreviations to type out your e-mail address, your e-mail signature, 
> your home address, or even entire paragraphs of text.  If I had text expander 
> running, for example, I could type, "You may contact me at ;em if you have 
> any questions."  Then, the ";em" (without the quotes) would become my e-mail 
> address.  It is fully accessible, and in fact mentions enabling universal 
> access at the outset.  I will warn that it is a bit pesky at first, at least 
> with the trial, as it wants yo to purchase, then sign up for the news letter, 
> etc. but it truly does seem like a fantastic application.  Again, it is 
> $35.00 and runs on the Mac OS.  A feature which seems very useful, but which 
> I have yet to try, is an ability to fill in custom fields when writing a 
> reply,.  The example they give is for a response to a donation to a company, 
> where the responder wishes to thank the donor and tell ways in which his or 
> her specific dollar amount will be used.  I can definitely see myself using 
> it when filling out online forms which constantly ask for name, e-mail, home 
> address, telephone, cell, etc.
> 
> The website is www.smilesoftware.com/textexpander.  I haven't looked at any 
> of the other applications on the site yet, and I was very surprised to find 
> this worked as well as it does and is as accessible as it is.  So far, it is 
> completely useable.  The only interesting point is that the test areas in the 
> tutorial, where you go to set up the various snippets, as it calls the 
> abbreviations for text to be inserted, is that the test area to try the 
> abbreviations out do not work, at least when I tried it.
> 
> Again, if you have any questions feel free to ask.  I have just started using 
> it, as of about ten minutes ago, but it truly seems fantastic.  For those 
> with some sight, visuals such as images may also be inserted.
> 
> Take care.  Is anyone else looking forward to seeing how the dictation 
> feature may or may not work so well in Mountain Lion?  I'm always unsure of 
> dictation programs and things of that sort.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Harry
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Re: Text Expander from Smile Software

[Harry Hogue]

William,

I'm not familiar with this aspect of the keyboard section in System 
Preferences.  I have yet to purchase this application, of course, so I will 
certainly give that a look as well.

Regards,

Harry

On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:07 AM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello Harry,
> I haven't bought this app for the mac but on the iPhone, it was very 
> accessible.
> On the mac, I find it very expensive while there is a free alternative built 
> in to the mac which is doing basically  the same.
> If you go to system preferences > keyboard > tab control keyboard > button 
> input sources > text: you can do there the same. a difference could be that 
> you can't type whole paragraphs because the return/enter key isn't accepted.
> For this reason , I don't buy text expander for the mac.
> 
> If there are comments from others about that, please feel free to give a 
> reaction.
> 
> kind regards,
> William Windels 
> Op 25-jul.-2012, om 10:30 heeft Harry Hogue het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi, guys,
>> 
>> I would be very surprised if there isn't at least one member of this list 
>> who doesn't already use this application, but I just heard about it tonight 
>> on a podcast, and just now downloaded the free trial (the full version may 
>> be purchased for $35.00).  It is called Text Expander, and it allows you to 
>> assign abbreviations to type out your e-mail address, your e-mail signature, 
>> your home address, or even entire paragraphs of text.  If I had text 
>> expander running, for example, I could type, "You may contact me at ;em if 
>> you have any questions."  Then, the ";em" (without the quotes) would become 
>> my e-mail address.  It is fully accessible, and in fact mentions enabling 
>> universal access at the outset.  I will warn that it is a bit pesky at 
>> first, at least with the trial, as it wants yo to purchase, then sign up for 
>> the news letter, etc. but it truly does seem like a fantastic application.  
>> Again, it is $35.00 and runs on the Mac OS.  A feature which seems very 
>> useful, but which I have yet to try, is an ability to fill in custom fields 
>> when writing a reply,.  The example they give is for a response to a 
>> donation to a company, where the responder wishes to thank the donor and 
>> tell ways in which his or her specific dollar amount will be used.  I can 
>> definitely see myself using it when filling out online forms which 
>> constantly ask for name, e-mail, home address, telephone, cell, etc.
>> 
>> The website is www.smilesoftware.com/textexpander.  I haven't looked at any 
>> of the other applications on the site yet, and I was very surprised to find 
>> this worked as well as it does and is as accessible as it is.  So far, it is 
>> completely useable.  The only interesting point is that the test areas in 
>> the tutorial, where you go to set up the various snippets, as it calls the 
>> abbreviations for text to be inserted, is that the test area to try the 
>> abbreviations out do not work, at least when I tried it.
>> 
>> Again, if you have any questions feel free to ask.  I have just started 
>> using it, as of about ten minutes ago, but it truly seems fantastic.  For 
>> those with some sight, visuals such as images may also be inserted.
>> 
>> Take care.  Is anyone else looking forward to seeing how the dictation 
>> feature may or may not work so well in Mountain Lion?  I'm always unsure of 
>> dictation programs and things of that sort.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Harry
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Re: Apple Bluetooth keyboard

[Harry Hogue]

Stacey,

Some applications will also have a list of keyboard shortcuts under the help 
menu option.  I know Numbers has a list of these.

Harry
S
On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:38 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Stacey,
> 
> You can find a lot of standard shortcuts in System Preferences in the 
> Keyboard pane. You can also create your own shortcuts for commands that don't 
> already have one.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 24 Jul 2012, at 13:15, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Control f3 has worked great.
>> Is there a place where I can find a list of these?
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Re: Fonts in Pages and TEmplates with placeholder text in Pages and Numbers

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Harry,

First of all, fonts in Pages. To change the font, select the text whose font 
needs changing (select all the text if the whole document is to be changed). 
Press Cmd-t to show the fonts. Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the first table and 
select the collection. Go to the next table and select the font (you can find 
it quickly by typing the first letter or two of its name). Go to the next table 
and choose the type face then navigate once right to the size field and type in 
the size you want. Just press Cmd-t to return to the document. For me, Times 
New Roman is announced as such.

As for selecting a template, you select from the table in the usual way, but in 
the grid, you have to bring the mouse to the VO cursor and do VO-Shift-Space 
bar to be sure of selecting the correct template.

When using a template, use the arrow keys and not the VO keys to navigate so 
that the placeholder text will be highlighted automatically and can be replaced 
by your own text.

Cheers,

Anne
  

On 25 Jul 2012, at 06:34, Harry Hogue wrote:

> Hi, everyone,
> 
> I am in the process of exploring Pages and getting ready for my internship, 
> so I want to be comfortable changing fonts in Pages as needed.  I am trying 
> now to change to Times New Roman. I type some text and select it, although 
> this is probably not even necessary, and I then press command+T.  There is a 
> search box where I could type in a font name, but instead I go over to font 
> family and choose "All fonts."  I then go down in the list of provided fonts 
> until I find "Times new Roman."  I stop interacting, adjust the size of the 
> font, and then press the close button.  I check the font, and it says, 
> "Times," with the correct point size.  It does not say "Times new Roman," and 
> from what I am reading on the Internet, these two are different.  I have also 
> seen "Times Roman."
> 
> It is my goal to become as proficient with Pages as possible so I can 
> confidently move about.  Although not all things are probably doable at this 
> point, much more is possible than I previously thought.  I also understand 
> that it is possible to use the templates with the placeholder text.  I have 
> found in the past that Pages and Numbers both tend to select the wrong 
> template at times.  There is one particular template, in particular, that 
> Numbers never selects.  I think it is the grade book template, if I remember 
> right.  So anyway, I am off to explore more about Pages; in the meantime, 
> however, I wanted to see if anyone else was familiar with these points.
> 
> Thanks, guys, and take care,
> 
> Harry
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RE: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Missy Hoppe]

I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it right 
away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break 
anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive that 
runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up 
my current settings. There are still a few
things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able 
to get that working as expected under Lion.
Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I 
would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
Missy

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On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

Hi all.
This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Like wise, I wish to know if Mountain Lion will affect my VMWARE as at present 
have no sighted help if amything goes wrong and my Mac is running smoothly. 

Kawal.

On 25 Jul 2012, at 11:33 AM, Missy Hoppe  wrote:

> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it right 
> away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break 
> anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive 
> that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up 
> my current settings. There are still a few
> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able 
> to get that working as expected under Lion.
> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I 
> would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> Missy
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> 
> Hi all.
> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Ray Foret Jr]

I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things go with 
10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone on the list 
puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most reliable indications 
of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this list for not only assistance 
with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for honest feedback from blind Mac users 
about things to be expected with major releases.  Now, of course, I am fully 
well aware that not everyone on this list is going to update right away; and, 
that some will wait while others plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I 
wish to know generally (and therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in 
real world use circumstances.  Thanks.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it right 
> away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break 
> anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive 
> that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up 
> my current settings. There are still a few
> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able 
> to get that working as expected under Lion.
> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I 
> would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> Missy
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> 
> Hi all.
> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Blinkin]

I am getting this as soon as I can find it loll.
On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi all.
> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :)
> Have an awesome day.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Pete Nalda]

As most of you know, I'm myself low vision, and I have games that are still 
ppc.  I won't decide to update to 10.8, until I decide I can live without 
those, and any other ppc apps I might have.  I'll let the early adaptors have a 
play around with it in the meantime.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Blinkin wrote:

> I am getting this as soon as I can find it loll.
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :)
>> Have an awesome day.
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it exactly 
when it comes out.
Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you what 
apps are accessible with ML?
Thanks.

Matt
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On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things go 
> with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone on 
> the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most reliable 
> indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this list for not 
> only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for honest feedback 
> from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major releases.  Now, 
> of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this list is going to 
> update right away; and, that some will wait while others plulnge in.  I will 
> do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and therefore mainly from 
> this list) what to expect in real world use circumstances.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it right 
>> away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
>> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break 
>> anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
>> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive 
>> that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
>> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back 
>> up my current settings. There are still a few
>> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never 
>> able to get that working as expected under Lion.
>> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I 
>> would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
>> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
>> Missy
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Krysti .Power]

i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

> Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
> The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it
> exactly when it comes out.
> Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you
> what apps are accessible with ML?
> Thanks.
>
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> msn: matt...@live.com
> skype: blindman3221
>
> On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
> > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things
> go with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone
> on the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most
> reliable indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this
> list for not only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for
> honest feedback from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major
> releases.  Now, of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this
> list is going to update right away; and, that some will wait while others
> plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and
> therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real world use
> circumstances.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> >
> >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it
> right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to
> break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external
> drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to
> back up my current settings. There are still a few
> >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was
> never able to get that working as expected under Lion.
> >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
> bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> >> Missy
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> >>
> >> Hi all.
> >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> >> Best regards:
> >> Søren Jensen
> >> Mail & MSN:
> >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> >> Website:
> >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> >>
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brailliant BI displays

[erik burggraaf]

Hi all, I just checked the hardware compatibility list and the brailliant BI 
still isn't on it.  Does anyone happen to know if mountain lion will support it 
out of the gate?  I have a client who's been waiting a stupid long time for 
training because her unit isn't compatible.

Best,

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Re: brailliant BI displays

[Matt Dierckens]

I am hoping so, because I too have the new BI32 and it didn't work with Lion. 
Here's hoping.
I think it's really rediculous, when in the manual it says it works with 
voiceover. False advertising much?
Matt
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On 2012-07-25, at 6:09 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi all, I just checked the hardware compatibility list and the brailliant BI 
> still isn't on it.  Does anyone happen to know if mountain lion will support 
> it out of the gate?  I have a client who's been waiting a stupid long time 
> for training because her unit isn't compatible.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

You could creat a partition, and run both OSs. if you chose.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> As most of you know, I'm myself low vision, and I have games that are still 
> ppc.  I won't decide to update to 10.8, until I decide I can live without 
> those, and any other ppc apps I might have.  I'll let the early adaptors have 
> a play around with it in the meantime.
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Blinkin wrote:
> 
>> I am getting this as soon as I can find it loll.
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>>> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :)
>>> Have an awesome day.
>>> Best regards:
>>> Søren Jensen
>>> Mail & MSN:
>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

it hasn't been released yet.  It probably won't be until around 10 AM eastern 
or later.

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:08 AM, "Krysti .Power"  wrote:

> i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens  
> wrote:
> Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
> The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it exactly 
> when it comes out.
> Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you what 
> apps are accessible with ML?
> Thanks.
> 
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> msn: matt...@live.com
> skype: blindman3221
> 
> On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
> > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things go 
> > with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone on 
> > the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most reliable 
> > indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this list for not 
> > only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for honest feedback 
> > from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major releases.  Now, 
> > of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this list is going to 
> > update right away; and, that some will wait while others plulnge in.  I 
> > will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and therefore mainly 
> > from this list) what to expect in real world use circumstances.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> >
> >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it 
> >> right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to 
> >> break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive 
> >> that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back 
> >> up my current settings. There are still a few
> >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never 
> >> able to get that working as expected under Lion.
> >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, 
> >> I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> >> Missy
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> >>
> >> Hi all.
> >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> >> Best regards:
> >> Søren Jensen
> >> Mail & MSN:
> >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> >> Website:
> >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> >>
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Krysti .Power]

so prob 11 my time thank you

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
>
> it hasn't been released yet.  It probably won't be until around 10 AM
> eastern or later.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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>
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:08 AM, "Krysti .Power" 
> wrote:
>
> > i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens <
> matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
> > The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it
> exactly when it comes out.
> > Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you
> what apps are accessible with ML?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Matt
> > Sent from my mac
> > Twitter: matt692
> > msn: matt...@live.com
> > skype: blindman3221
> >
> > On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >
> > > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things
> go with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone
> on the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most
> reliable indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this
> list for not only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for
> honest feedback from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major
> releases.  Now, of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this
> list is going to update right away; and, that some will wait while others
> plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and
> therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real world use
> circumstances.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >
> > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> > >
> > > Skype name:
> > > barefootedray
> > >
> > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it
> right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> > >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going
> to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> > >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external
> drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> > >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to
> back up my current settings. There are still a few
> > >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was
> never able to get that working as expected under Lion.
> > >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
> bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> > >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> > >> Missy
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> > >>
> > >> Hi all.
> > >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> > >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> > >> Best regards:
> > >> Søren Jensen
> > >> Mail & MSN:
> > >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> > >> Website:
> > >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> > >>
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Krysti .Power]

how many macs can one license be installed on

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Krysti .Power wrote:

> so prob 11 my time thank you
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> it hasn't been released yet.  It probably won't be until around 10 AM
>> eastern or later.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
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>>
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:08 AM, "Krysti .Power" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens <
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
>> > The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it
>> exactly when it comes out.
>> > Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel
>> you what apps are accessible with ML?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Matt
>> > Sent from my mac
>> > Twitter: matt692
>> > msn: matt...@live.com
>> > skype: blindman3221
>> >
>> > On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> >
>> > > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how
>> things go with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if
>> everyone on the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the
>> most reliable indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on
>> this list for not only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for
>> honest feedback from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major
>> releases.  Now, of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this
>> list is going to update right away; and, that some will wait while others
>> plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and
>> therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real world use
>> circumstances.  Thanks.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely,
>> > > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >
>> > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> > >
>> > > Skype name:
>> > > barefootedray
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy
>> it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
>> > >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going
>> to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
>> > >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external
>> drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
>> > >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive
>> to back up my current settings. There are still a few
>> > >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was
>> never able to get that working as expected under Lion.
>> > >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
>> bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
>> > >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
>> > >> Missy
>> > >>
>> > >> -Original Message-
>> > >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
>> > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> > >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi all.
>> > >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>> > >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
>> > >> Best regards:
>> > >> Søren Jensen
>> > >> Mail & MSN:
>> > >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> > >> Website:
>> > >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> > >>
>> > >>
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Rachel Feinberg]

You can install 1 Mountain Lion license on up to 5 macs.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Krysti .Power wrote:

> how many macs can one license be installed on
> 
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Krysti .Power  
> wrote:
> so prob 11 my time thank you 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it hasn't been released yet.  It probably won't be until around 10 AM eastern 
> or later.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:08 AM, "Krysti .Power"  wrote:
> 
> > i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens  
> > wrote:
> > Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
> > The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it 
> > exactly when it comes out.
> > Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you 
> > what apps are accessible with ML?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Matt
> > Sent from my mac
> > Twitter: matt692
> > msn: matt...@live.com
> > skype: blindman3221
> >
> > On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >
> > > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things go 
> > > with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone 
> > > on the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most 
> > > reliable indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this 
> > > list for not only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for 
> > > honest feedback from blind Mac users about things to be expected with 
> > > major releases.  Now, of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone 
> > > on this list is going to update right away; and, that some will wait 
> > > while others plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know 
> > > generally (and therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real 
> > > world use circumstances.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >
> > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> > >
> > > Skype name:
> > > barefootedray
> > >
> > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it 
> > >> right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> > >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to 
> > >> break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> > >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external 
> > >> drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> > >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to 
> > >> back up my current settings. There are still a few
> > >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never 
> > >> able to get that working as expected under Lion.
> > >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on 
> > >> bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> > >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> > >> Missy
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> > >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> > >>
> > >> Hi all.
> > >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> > >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> > >> Best regards:
> > >> Søren Jensen
> > >> Mail & MSN:
> > >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> > >> Website:
> > >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Krysti .Power]

ok thank you

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:

> You can install 1 Mountain Lion license on up to 5 macs.
>
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Krysti .Power wrote:
>
> how many macs can one license be installed on
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Krysti .Power wrote:
>
>> so prob 11 my time thank you
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> it hasn't been released yet.  It probably won't be until around 10 AM
>>> eastern or later.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:08 AM, "Krysti .Power" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens <
>>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
>>> > The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it
>>> exactly when it comes out.
>>> > Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel
>>> you what apps are accessible with ML?
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > Matt
>>> > Sent from my mac
>>> > Twitter: matt692
>>> > msn: matt...@live.com
>>> > skype: blindman3221
>>> >
>>> > On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how
>>> things go with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if
>>> everyone on the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the
>>> most reliable indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on
>>> this list for not only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for
>>> honest feedback from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major
>>> releases.  Now, of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this
>>> list is going to update right away; and, that some will wait while others
>>> plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and
>>> therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real world use
>>> circumstances.  Thanks.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Sincerely,
>>> > > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Skype name:
>>> > > barefootedray
>>> > >
>>> > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy
>>> it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
>>> > >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going
>>> to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
>>> > >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external
>>> drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
>>> > >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive
>>> to back up my current settings. There are still a few
>>> > >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was
>>> never able to get that working as expected under Lion.
>>> > >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
>>> bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
>>> > >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
>>> > >> Missy
>>> > >>
>>> > >> -Original Message-
>>> > >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
>>> > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> > >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hi all.
>>> > >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>>> > >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
>>> > >> Best regards:
>>> > >> Søren Jensen
>>> > >> Mail & MSN:
>>> > >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>> > >> Website:
>>> > >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
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>>> > >>
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>>

Re: brailliant BI displays

[erik burggraaf]

It's true.  I've given them sooo much hell over this.  My client's 80.  She may 
be gone bytime they get off their butts and make this work.  G, frustrated.
.
Erik Burggraaf
Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
$0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2012-07-25, at 8:10 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

> I am hoping so, because I too have the new BI32 and it didn't work with Lion. 
> Here's hoping.
> I think it's really rediculous, when in the manual it says it works with 
> voiceover. False advertising much?
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> msn: matt...@live.com
> skype: blindman3221
> 
> On 2012-07-25, at 6:09 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I just checked the hardware compatibility list and the brailliant BI 
>> still isn't on it.  Does anyone happen to know if mountain lion will support 
>> it out of the gate?  I have a client who's been waiting a stupid long time 
>> for training because her unit isn't compatible.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting 
>> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
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Removing Spaces

[Timothy Hornik]

How do you delete spaces? While playing around with Mission Control, I created 
many extra Spaces, and now wish to delete them. Any tips?

Thank you for your assistance,
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Re: brailliant BI displays

[Shanna]

I have a BI 40, and it does work with my IPhone, but not with my Macbook. I 
believe HW did their thing, but Apple hasn't gotten it together on their 
end. I really hope Mountain Lion will finally support this display already, 
but am not holding my breath. :)


Shanna

-Original Message- 
From: Matt Dierckens

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: brailliant BI displays

I am hoping so, because I too have the new BI32 and it didn't work with 
Lion. Here's hoping.
I think it's really rediculous, when in the manual it says it works with 
voiceover. False advertising much?

Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692
msn: matt...@live.com
skype: blindman3221

On 2012-07-25, at 6:09 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hi all, I just checked the hardware compatibility list and the brailliant 
BI still isn't on it.  Does anyone happen to know if mountain lion will 
support it out of the gate?  I have a client who's been waiting a stupid 
long time for training because her unit isn't compatible.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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Re: mail question

[Steve Holmes]

If your list is very long or if you  have a large number of mail box folders, 
you may need to also add the shift key to these key combinations.  Remember 
that fn + VO + arrow keys will go to top and bottom of a list that is visible, 
where including the shift key will get you to the absolute top and bottom 
respectively.  

Hope this extra info helps.

On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

> I will describe to you what I do to achieve this on macbook air.
> 
> Whilst in a mailbox, interact with the list of messages. Then press 
> fn+vo+shift+left arrow to go to the first row of the table of messages and 
> fn+vo+right arrow to go to the last row in the table of messages.
> 
> hope this helps.
> 
> Simon
> On 24 Jul 2012, at 11:07, Luke Henson wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys 
>> 
>> Does anyone know  why  command up arrow doesn't lead you to first message on 
>> the list and if there's a way to jump from the first message to the last 
>> message  
>> inside your inbox 
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Luke 
>> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Scott Berry]

That's probably because it hasn't been released yet and also remember 
Apple is on California time so it may be released later in the day.  
Currently it is 6:10 in cupertino.




i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens 
mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com>> wrote:


   Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
   The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting
   it exactly when it comes out.
   Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel
   you what apps are accessible with ML?
   Thanks.

   Matt
   Sent from my mac
   Twitter: matt692
   msn: matt...@live.com 
   skype: blindman3221

   On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how
   things go with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.
 Therefore, if everyone on the list puts it off, I shan't have what
   I consider to be the most reliable indications of what I have to
   look forward to.  I rely on this list for not only assistance with
   personal Apple stuff, but, also, for honest feedback from blind Mac
   users about things to be expected with major releases.  Now, of
   course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this list is
   going to update right away; and, that some will wait while others
   plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally
   (and therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real world
   use circumstances.  Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>
>> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to
   buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
>> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't
   going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
>> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB
   external drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
>> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL
   drive to back up my current settings. There are still a few
>> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I
   was never able to get that working as expected under Lion.
>> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
   bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
>> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
>> Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   
   [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   ] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   
>> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
>>
>> Hi all.
>> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk 
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>
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Re: Text Expander from Smile Software

[Garth Humphreys]

I love the app and love it. I also have the IOS 


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On 25/07/2012, at 6:30 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> I would be very surprised if there isn't at least one member of this list who 
> doesn't already use this application, but I just heard about it tonight on a 
> podcast, and just now downloaded the free trial (the full version may be 
> purchased for $35.00).  It is called Text Expander, and it allows you to 
> assign abbreviations to type out your e-mail address, your e-mail signature, 
> your home address, or even entire paragraphs of text.  If I had text expander 
> running, for example, I could type, "You may contact me at ;em if you have 
> any questions."  Then, the ";em" (without the quotes) would become my e-mail 
> address.  It is fully accessible, and in fact mentions enabling universal 
> access at the outset.  I will warn that it is a bit pesky at first, at least 
> with the trial, as it wants yo to purchase, then sign up for the news letter, 
> etc. but it truly does seem like a fantastic application.  Again, it is 
> $35.00 and runs on the Mac OS.  A feature which seems very useful, but which 
> I have yet to try, is an ability to fill in custom fields when writing a 
> reply,.  The example they give is for a response to a donation to a company, 
> where the responder wishes to thank the donor and tell ways in which his or 
> her specific dollar amount will be used.  I can definitely see myself using 
> it when filling out online forms which constantly ask for name, e-mail, home 
> address, telephone, cell, etc.
> 
> The website is www.smilesoftware.com/textexpander.  I haven't looked at any 
> of the other applications on the site yet, and I was very surprised to find 
> this worked as well as it does and is as accessible as it is.  So far, it is 
> completely useable.  The only interesting point is that the test areas in the 
> tutorial, where you go to set up the various snippets, as it calls the 
> abbreviations for text to be inserted, is that the test area to try the 
> abbreviations out do not work, at least when I tried it.
> 
> Again, if you have any questions feel free to ask.  I have just started using 
> it, as of about ten minutes ago, but it truly seems fantastic.  For those 
> with some sight, visuals such as images may also be inserted.
> 
> Take care.  Is anyone else looking forward to seeing how the dictation 
> feature may or may not work so well in Mountain Lion?  I'm always unsure of 
> dictation programs and things of that sort.
> 
> Take care,
> 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Kliphton]

It hit the app store at 8:00 AM central time.  Just seen a tweet about it, and 
I am downloading it as I write this.
On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

> That's probably because it hasn't been released yet and also remember Apple 
> is on California time so it may be released later in the day.  Currently it 
> is 6:10 in cupertino.
> 
> 
> 
> i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens  
> wrote:
> Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
> The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it exactly 
> when it comes out.
> Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you what 
> apps are accessible with ML?
> Thanks.
> 
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> msn: matt...@live.com
> skype: blindman3221
> 
> On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
> > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things go 
> > with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone on 
> > the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most reliable 
> > indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this list for not 
> > only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for honest feedback 
> > from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major releases.  Now, 
> > of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this list is going to 
> > update right away; and, that some will wait while others plulnge in.  I 
> > will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and therefore mainly 
> > from this list) what to expect in real world use circumstances.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> >
> >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it 
> >> right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to 
> >> break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive 
> >> that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back 
> >> up my current settings. There are still a few
> >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never 
> >> able to get that working as expected under Lion.
> >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, 
> >> I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> >> Missy
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> >>
> >> Hi all.
> >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> >> Best regards:
> >> Søren Jensen
> >> Mail & MSN:
> >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
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> >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Kjsc Radio]

I am thinking of getting it bug I'll have to get money though. But it should be 
good but we well see how it goes.

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Blinkin  wrote:

> I am getting this as soon as I can find it loll.
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :)
>> Have an awesome day.
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Mountain Lion is out now!

[Søren Jensen]

Hi..
The subject says it all. I'm downloading as I I write this. :)
Best regards:
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Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Daniel Miller]

Hello,

 

I just installed Mountain Lion, and it's simply amazing. Here's what I've
noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.

 

.VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had
to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.

.We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an 'Extras' menu,
accessed the same way you'd access the battery status, etc in Lion.

.Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.

 

As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I'll write back.

 

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Re: Looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset.

[Timothy Emmons]

Hey Alison I use a Motorola HD10, which is a really good stereo bluetooth 
headset. The book Port does't have bluetooth capabilities, I wish it did but 
currently it does not. But, this particular headset works really well, batery 
life is great and the sound is quite nice as well. Not sure if it has two modes 
or not, but the buttons are very accessible and it is easy to pair with 
whatever you want to pair that with. Hope this helps and you might want to take 
a look at Amazon, Best Buy or something like that. But, it's the Motorola HD10, 
it's a step up from the motorola S9 that was previously released. Thanks again 
and tae care. 
On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> The subject basically says it all. I'm looking for a stereo bluetooth headset 
> that I can pair with my iPhone and possibly my MBP as well. I want something 
> that's really easy to pair and disconnect. I have a nice Sony one here, but 
> the blasted thing has so many modes, pairing is a bit hit or miss. I'd 
> ideally like something with two modes, on and discoverable, or off and not 
> discoverable. I actually really wish Jawbone would make a headset version of 
> their very accessible jam box product. Is there anything even close in terms 
> of accessibility? Thanks so much in advance for any and all assistance.
> Allison
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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Steve Holmes]

Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or OS 
upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and followed 
that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is dimmed but 
says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs; does this mean it 
is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.  Hope I didn't miss any 
critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now and look into a full 
re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>  
> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>  
> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>  
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problems installing 10.8

[William Windels]

Hello, 
I bought my macbook air on 26/06/2012 so I should have a free install of 10.8.


To receive a code for the app-store, I have to go : 
http://www.apple.com/benl/osx/uptodate/

There, I click on the link Here  to use the update-programme.

In the new screen , I should enter the date I bought the air but, after 
interacting with that field, Nothing of what I have typed comes on the screen 
and if I don't care of the result of that feels and fill in the other forms, I 
receive that some red fields are not filled in correctly.

This seems not accessible...
Any suggestions?

Kind regards,
William Windels

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RE: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Daniel Miller]

Yes, you need to go to your purchase section in the app store to see status.
Press CMD+4 to switch to purchases, and look for OS X Mountain Lion in that
table.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or OS
upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and
followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is
dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs;
does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.
Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now
and look into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it's simply amazing. Here's what I've
noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>  
> .VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you
had to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
> .We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an 'Extras'
menu, accessed the same way you'd access the battery status, etc in Lion.
> .Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>  
> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I'll write back.
>  
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RE: problems installing 10.8

[Daniel Miller]

Hello,

Yes, from what I'm hearing from other people that try that, it is indeed
inaccessible. I would call apple support and explain the situation, perhaps
they can help you.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: problems installing 10.8

Hello, 
I bought my macbook air on 26/06/2012 so I should have a free install of
10.8.


To receive a code for the app-store, I have to go :
http://www.apple.com/benl/osx/uptodate/

There, I click on the link Here  to use the update-programme.

In the new screen , I should enter the date I bought the air but, after
interacting with that field, Nothing of what I have typed comes on the
screen and if I don't care of the result of that feels and fill in the other
forms, I receive that some red fields are not filled in correctly.

This seems not accessible...
Any suggestions?

Kind regards,
William Windels

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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Matthew Campbell]

Hi.
If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain Lion 
download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
Good luck,
Matthew Campbell.


On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:

> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or OS 
> upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and 
> followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is 
> dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs; does 
> this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.  Hope I 
> didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now and look 
> into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
>> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
>> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
>> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
>> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
>> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>> 
>> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>> 
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getting the games in Frotz onto my Mac

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I have Frotz on my iPhone, but want to get some of the free games that come 
with it onto my Mac.  Anyone know how I can do this?
TIA,
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Question on App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download in the
app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am trying to see
how much longer I have before the download finishes. thanks 

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Re: problems installing 10.8

[Kliphton]

I did it last year and it was easy as pie!  Try turning quick nav off, when in 
the edit field where the info goes.  That woked for me when lion was released.  
HTH
On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Yes, from what I'm hearing from other people that try that, it is indeed
> inaccessible. I would call apple support and explain the situation, perhaps
> they can help you.
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Windels
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: problems installing 10.8
> 
> Hello, 
> I bought my macbook air on 26/06/2012 so I should have a free install of
> 10.8.
> 
> 
> To receive a code for the app-store, I have to go :
> http://www.apple.com/benl/osx/uptodate/
> 
> There, I click on the link Here  to use the update-programme.
> 
> In the new screen , I should enter the date I bought the air but, after
> interacting with that field, Nothing of what I have typed comes on the
> screen and if I don't care of the result of that feels and fill in the other
> forms, I receive that some red fields are not filled in correctly.
> 
> This seems not accessible...
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
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From Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion: Should This Be Doable Without Any Intermediate Steps?

[Christine Grassman]

I have never done an upgrade on my MacBook. Is there anything specific I must 
do in order to accomplish the jump? 
Christine

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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Teresa Cochran]

Normally, I might wait a few days, but I need a reinstall, due to some issues 
I'm having, and I don't want to reinstall twice.

Off to find it now.

Teresa

I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Kjsc Radio wrote:

> I am thinking of getting it bug I'll have to get money though. But it should 
> be good but we well see how it goes.
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Blinkin  wrote:
> 
>> I am getting this as soon as I can find it loll.
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
>>> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :)
>>> Have an awesome day.
>>> Best regards:
>>> Søren Jensen
>>> Mail & MSN:
>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>> 
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Re: From Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion: Should This Be Doable Without Any Intermediate Steps?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

nope.  Just make sure your Mac has the system requirements to run MT. Lion and 
go for it. :)

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Christine Grassman  
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> I have never done an upgrade on my MacBook. Is there anything specific I must 
> do in order to accomplish the jump? 
> Christine
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Re: Question on App Store

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I believe you press command 4 to get to the purchases category.

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download in the
> app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am trying to see
> how much longer I have before the download finishes. thanks 
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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks to all of you for the quick reply.  It's poking along just fine.  
Unfortunately, I have to leave to go to work while download is progressing; I 
assume it will just just sit there after completion? I sure wouldn't want it to 
start installing while I was gone:).

On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi.
> If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
> Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain Lion 
> download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
> Good luck,
> Matthew Campbell.
> 
> 
> On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
>> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or OS 
>> upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and 
>> followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is 
>> dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs; 
>> does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.  
>> Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now 
>> and look into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
>>> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
>>> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
>>> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
>>> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
>>> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>>> 
>>> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>>> 
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RE: Question on App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

thanks silly not to remember that.

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Hi,

I believe you press command 4 to get to the purchases category.

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download 
> in the app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am 
> trying to see how much longer I have before the download finishes. 
> thanks
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RE: Question on App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

That worked by the way again thanks for the help.

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Hi,

I believe you press command 4 to get to the purchases category.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download 
> in the app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am 
> trying to see how much longer I have before the download finishes. 
> thanks
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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Ricardo Walker]

lol,

yes.  It will just sit there.  It needs your prompts to select where it is 
installed etc.

hth

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks to all of you for the quick reply.  It's poking along just fine.  
> Unfortunately, I have to leave to go to work while download is progressing; I 
> assume it will just just sit there after completion? I sure wouldn't want it 
> to start installing while I was gone:).
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
>> Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain Lion 
>> download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
>> Good luck,
>> Matthew Campbell.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> 
>>> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or 
>>> OS upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and 
>>> followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is 
>>> dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs; 
>>> does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.  
>>> Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now 
>>> and look into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
 noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
 
 •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you 
 had to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
 •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ 
 menu, accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
 •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
 
 As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
 
 
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RE: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Jesus Garcia]

Hey that is ok I must leave for the airport within the next half hour, may
have to just leave the machine on until Friday, but oh well. It is about 55
percent done. Glad I am fortunate that I have very fast broad band. Good
luck to all.

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lol,

yes.  It will just sit there.  It needs your prompts to select where it is
installed etc.

hth

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks to all of you for the quick reply.  It's poking along just fine.
Unfortunately, I have to leave to go to work while download is progressing;
I assume it will just just sit there after completion? I sure wouldn't want
it to start installing while I was gone:).
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
>> Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain
Lion download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
>> Good luck,
>> Matthew Campbell.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> 
>>> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS
or OS upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and
followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is
dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs;
does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.
Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now
and look into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 I just installed Mountain Lion, and it's simply amazing. Here's what
I've noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
 
 .VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you
had to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
 .We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an 'Extras'
menu, accessed the same way you'd access the battery status, etc in Lion.
 .Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
 
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Re: Question on App Store

[Teresa Cochran]

Actually, if you go to the dock and find Launchpad, you will have a progress 
bar there (example: launchpad, 32%)for your download.

Teresa

"deeds can't dream what dreams can do."--e. e. cummings

On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download in the
> app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am trying to see
> how much longer I have before the download finishes. thanks 
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Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Tim Hornik]

I have about 10 minutes before Mountain Lion is finished installing on my 
system. I cannot wait to play with some of the new features like the 
notification center and some of the other carry overs from the iOS platform. I 
am guessing we sill be spending some time learning or creating some new 
gestures and shortcuts to take advantage of the new features.

Happy clicking,
Tim

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Installing mountain lion

[Kirsten Edmondson]

Hi all,
I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being away. 
However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. So I've 
never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before

I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a pod 
cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it right.

Is there anything I need to do before I install?

Where do I put it?

Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.

If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.

Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…

There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.

Thanks. 
Kirsten 


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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Les Kriegler]

Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  First, 
you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make certain your 
programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by searching for 
the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  It's also a good 
idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the most current updates 
for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase Mountain Lion.  It will 
download and your system will re-boot.  You may have to turn on VO when your 
system restarts, but you will then have speech through the remainder of the 
installation process.  It took me about an hour to do the install, just 
finished, and all went well.

Les
On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
 wrote:

> Hi all,
> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being away. 
> However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. So I've 
> never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
> 
> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
> right.
> 
> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
> 
> Where do I put it?
> 
> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
> 
> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
> 
> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
> 
> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
> 
> Thanks. 
> Kirsten 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

[Jeff Bishop]

5

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th

 

how many macs can one license be installed on

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Krysti .Power 
wrote:

so prob 11 my time thank you 

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker 
wrote:

Hi,

it hasn't been released yet.  It probably won't be until around 10 AM
eastern or later.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:08 AM, "Krysti .Power" 
wrote:

> i can't seem to find it in the mac ap store
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Matt Dierckens 
wrote:
> Hi Ray, I too, will be waiting a few days/weeks.
> The servers are going to be bogged down today, so no point getting it
exactly when it comes out.
> Hoping that everything works smoothly. Is there a site that will tel you
what apps are accessible with ML?
> Thanks.
>
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> msn: matt...@live.com
> skype: blindman3221
>
> On 2012-07-25, at 4:59 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
> > I will put this off until I've seen, mainly from this list, how things
go with 10.8 and what is generally to be expected.  Therefore, if everyone
on the list puts it off, I shan't have what I consider to be the most
reliable indications of what I have to look forward to.  I rely on this list
for not only assistance with personal Apple stuff, but, also, for honest
feedback from blind Mac users about things to be expected with major
releases.  Now, of course, I am fully well aware that not everyone on this
list is going to update right away; and, that some will wait while others
plulnge in.  I will do it soon myself; but, I wish to know generally (and
therefore mainly from this list) what to expect in real world use
circumstances.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> >
> >> I've been counting down to this. Can't decide if I am going to buy it
right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not
> >> Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to
break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
> >> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external
drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up
> >> my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to
back up my current settings. There are still a few
> >> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was
never able to get that working as expected under Lion.
> >> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite
> >> excited about this update, so I hope I can get it.
> >> Missy
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:30 AM
> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Mountain Lion is going to be released today, the 25th
> >>
> >> Hi all.
> >> This is not a rumour. Just saw this on Twitter from Macrumours.
> >> So, get ready for a big big mail storm. :) Have an awesome day.
> >> Best regards:
> >> Søren Jensen
> >> Mail & MSN:
> >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> >> Website:
> >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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RE: Question on App Store

[Jeff Bishop]

Use the purchases tab of the App Store. Then find it in the table and move
to the right column to see its progress.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question on App Store

Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download in the
app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am trying to see
how much longer I have before the download finishes. thanks 

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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Kirsten Edmondson]

Cool, thanks. Is the twitter rumour I've heard correct?-vm fusion does not work 
... 
I haven't yet sorted fusion. Was going to sort ml and then vm. But should I 
wait? 


Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:35, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  First, 
> you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make certain your 
> programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by searching for 
> the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  It's also a good 
> idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the most current updates 
> for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase Mountain Lion.  It will 
> download and your system will re-boot.  You may have to turn on VO when your 
> system restarts, but you will then have speech through the remainder of the 
> installation process.  It took me about an hour to do the install, just 
> finished, and all went well.
> 
> Les
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
>> away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
>> So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
>> 
>> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
>> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
>> right.
>> 
>> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
>> 
>> Where do I put it?
>> 
>> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
>> 
>> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
>> 
>> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
>> 
>> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> Kirsten 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Loving Mountain Lion

[Timothy Hornik]

Hello everyone,

I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I played 
with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will cover some of the 
basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. First off, I am not an uber mac 
user, just a standard user with little to no experience with understanding 
anything outside fundamentals of Coive Over.

Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no worries. Just 
make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did to prepare for the 
install was update my billing information. I did not update any software, run 
the checker, or anything else as my system is a Mac Mini from last year. The 
entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button to logging 
in.

Notification Center Set up:
First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to the 
shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the Notification Center, 
which is located in the Mission Control option. I am using Command Option Shift 
N for mine.

Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to the 
Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that use the 
Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive either an alert, 
banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do on the iPhone and iPad.

Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. To move 
away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.

Messaging
I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only sent a 
message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you need to dig it 
out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift A or go through finder 
to find it. Once you find it, open it and insert your iCloud information. You 
will also want to go into the dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M 
and go down to Option and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want 
this in your dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it. 

The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, iMessages 
created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with the same iCloud 
user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations from your Mac and then pick 
it up while traveling.

Dictation
Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go back to 
System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation and Speech. Enable 
it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an activation 
method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of either the Function 
key, Command, RIght Command, or some other combination. When you are in a text 
field, double tap the key you selected and start talking. When you are done, 
double tap it again.
Thank you for your assistance,
Timothy Hornik 
timothy.hor...@gmail.com 
H: 785.856.1172 
M: 785.330.3503 
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Eugenia Firth]

Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I did 
my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver going, 
your computer has gone bye-bye for a while. 

Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:

> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  First, 
> you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make certain your 
> programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by searching for 
> the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  It's also a good 
> idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the most current updates 
> for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase Mountain Lion.  It will 
> download and your system will re-boot.  You may have to turn on VO when your 
> system restarts, but you will then have speech through the remainder of the 
> installation process.  It took me about an hour to do the install, just 
> finished, and all went well.
> 
> Les
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
>> away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
>> So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
>> 
>> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
>> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
>> right.
>> 
>> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
>> 
>> Where do I put it?
>> 
>> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
>> 
>> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
>> 
>> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
>> 
>> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> Kirsten 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Loving Mountain Lion

[Alex Hall]

Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days,
maybe today, and I'll keep this all in mind.

On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I played
> with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will cover some of
> the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. First off, I am not an
> uber mac user, just a standard user with little to no experience with
> understanding anything outside fundamentals of Coive Over.
>
> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no worries. Just
> make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did to prepare for the
> install was update my billing information. I did not update any software,
> run the checker, or anything else as my system is a Mac Mini from last year.
> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button to
> logging in.
>
> Notification Center Set up:
> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to the
> shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the Notification
> Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I am using Command
> Option Shift N for mine.
>
> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to the
> Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that use the
> Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive either an alert,
> banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do on the iPhone and
> iPad.
>
> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. To
> move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
>
> Messaging
> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only sent a
> message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you need to dig
> it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift A or go through
> finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and insert your iCloud
> information. You will also want to go into the dock, and find the Message
> App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option and then keep in Dock. I say this,
> cause you will want this in your dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut
> for it.
>
> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is,
> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with the
> same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations from your Mac
> and then pick it up while traveling.
>
> Dictation
> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go back
> to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation and Speech.
> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an
> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of either
> the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other combination. When
> you are in a text field, double tap the key you selected and start talking.
> When you are done, double tap it again.
> Thank you for your assistance,
> Timothy Hornik
> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
> H: 785.856.1172
> M: 785.330.3503
> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Kirsten Edmondson]

Apparently vm is fine. 
I don't have iCloud set up, it scares me marginally more than iTunes with 
regard to loss and salvation of my data. 
Posts on list suggest its use is paramount. Should I set up iCloud before 
install? Is its use necessary? If I set it up, any tips for not losing 
everything from Mac, iPhone and iPad!? 


Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:23, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
> installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I did 
> my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver going, 
> your computer has gone bye-bye for a while. 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  
>> First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make 
>> certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by 
>> searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  
>> It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the 
>> most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase 
>> Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will re-boot.  You may have 
>> to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you will then have speech 
>> through the remainder of the installation process.  It took me about an hour 
>> to do the install, just finished, and all went well.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
>>> away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
>>> So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
>>> 
>>> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
>>> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
>>> right.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
>>> 
>>> Where do I put it?
>>> 
>>> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
>>> 
>>> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
>>> 
>>> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
>>> 
>>> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Kirsten 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Kimsan]

Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion

Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
today, and I'll keep this all in mind.

On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. 
> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of Coive
Over.
>
> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my system is
a Mac Mini from last year.
> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
> to logging in.
>
> Notification Center Set up:
> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>
> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
> on the iPhone and iPad.
>
> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
>
> Messaging
> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>
> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>
> Dictation
> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation and
Speech.
> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you selected
and start talking.
> When you are done, double tap it again.
> Thank you for your assistance,
> Timothy Hornik
> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
> H: 785.856.1172
> M: 785.330.3503
> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
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RE: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Daniel Miller]

It's $19.99


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion

Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
today, and I'll keep this all in mind.

On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
> Coive
Over.
>
> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
> system is
a Mac Mini from last year.
> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
> to logging in.
>
> Notification Center Set up:
> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>
> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
> on the iPhone and iPad.
>
> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
>
> Messaging
> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>
> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>
> Dictation
> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
> and
Speech.
> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
> selected
and start talking.
> When you are done, double tap it again.
> Thank you for your assistance,
> Timothy Hornik
> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
> H: 785.856.1172
> M: 785.330.3503
> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Christine Grassman]

I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech specs 
page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be upgraded 
(along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in February, 
2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
Christine 
On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> It's $19.99
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
> 
> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
> 
> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
> today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
> 
> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
>> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
>> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
>> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
>> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
>> Coive
> Over.
>> 
>> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
>> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
>> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
>> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
>> system is
> a Mac Mini from last year.
>> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
>> to logging in.
>> 
>> Notification Center Set up:
>> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
>> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
>> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
>> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>> 
>> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
>> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
>> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
>> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
>> on the iPhone and iPad.
>> 
>> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
>> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
>> 
>> Messaging
>> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
>> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
>> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
>> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
>> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
>> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
>> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
>> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>> 
>> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
>> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
>> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
>> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>> 
>> Dictation
>> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
>> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
>> and
> Speech.
>> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
>> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
>> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
>> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
>> selected
> and start talking.
>> When you are done, double tap it again.
>> Thank you for your assistance,
>> Timothy Hornik
>> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
>> H: 785.856.1172
>> M: 785.330.3503
>> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
>> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
>> 
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Christine, 
Yu should be able to upgrade your macbook just fine. Mine is just the white 
macbook from February, 2010 with 4 GB ram and I upgraded it fine today. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 3:31 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech specs 
> page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be upgraded 
> (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in February, 
> 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
> Christine 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> It's $19.99
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
>> 
>> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
>> 
>> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
>> today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
>> 
>> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
>>> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
>>> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
>>> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
>>> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
>>> Coive
>> Over.
>>> 
>>> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
>>> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
>>> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
>>> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
>>> system is
>> a Mac Mini from last year.
>>> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
>>> to logging in.
>>> 
>>> Notification Center Set up:
>>> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
>>> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
>>> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
>>> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>>> 
>>> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
>>> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
>>> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
>>> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
>>> on the iPhone and iPad.
>>> 
>>> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
>>> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
>>> 
>>> Messaging
>>> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
>>> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
>>> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
>>> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
>>> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
>>> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
>>> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
>>> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>>> 
>>> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
>>> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
>>> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
>>> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>>> 
>>> Dictation
>>> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
>>> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
>>> and
>> Speech.
>>> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
>>> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
>>> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
>>> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
>>> selected
>> and start talking.
>>> When you are done, double tap it again.
>>> Thank you for your assistance,
>>> Timothy Hornik
>>> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
>>> H: 785.856.1172
>>> M: 785.330.3503
>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
>>> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
>>> 
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Christine Grassman]

Great. Thanks. :)
On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

> Hi Christine, 
> Yu should be able to upgrade your macbook just fine. Mine is just the white 
> macbook from February, 2010 with 4 GB ram and I upgraded it fine today. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> On 2012-07-25, at 3:31 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:
> 
>> I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech 
>> specs page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be 
>> upgraded (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in 
>> February, 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
>> Christine 
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> It's $19.99
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
>>> today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
>>> 
>>> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
 played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
 cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
 First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
 to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
 Coive
>>> Over.
 
 Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
 worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
 to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
 not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
 system is
>>> a Mac Mini from last year.
 The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
 to logging in.
 
 Notification Center Set up:
 First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
 the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
 Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
 am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
 
 Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
 the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
 use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
 either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
 on the iPhone and iPad.
 
 Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
 To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
 
 Messaging
 I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
 sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
 need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
 A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
 insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
 dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
 and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
 dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
 
 The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
 iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
 the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
 from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
 
 Dictation
 Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
 back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
 and
>>> Speech.
 Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
 activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
 either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
 combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
 selected
>>> and start talking.
 When you are done, double tap it again.
 Thank you for your assistance,
 Timothy Hornik
 timothy.hor...@gmail.com
 H: 785.856.1172
 M: 785.330.3503
 LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
 Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
 
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RE: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Daniel Miller]

Christine,

Yes, you'll be able to upgrade your MacBook with no problems.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

Hi Christine, 
Yu should be able to upgrade your macbook just fine. Mine is just the white
macbook from February, 2010 with 4 GB ram and I upgraded it fine today. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 3:31 PM, Christine Grassman 
wrote:

> I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech
specs page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be
upgraded (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in
February, 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
> Christine 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> It's $19.99
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
>> 
>> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
>> 
>> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
>> today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
>> 
>> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
>>> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
>>> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
>>> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
>>> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
>>> Coive
>> Over.
>>> 
>>> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
>>> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
>>> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
>>> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
>>> system is
>> a Mac Mini from last year.
>>> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
>>> to logging in.
>>> 
>>> Notification Center Set up:
>>> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
>>> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
>>> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
>>> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>>> 
>>> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
>>> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
>>> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
>>> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
>>> on the iPhone and iPad.
>>> 
>>> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
>>> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close
button.
>>> 
>>> Messaging
>>> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
>>> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
>>> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
>>> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
>>> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
>>> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
>>> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
>>> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>>> 
>>> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
>>> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
>>> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
>>> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>>> 
>>> Dictation
>>> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
>>> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
>>> and
>> Speech.
>>> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
>>> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
>>> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
>>> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
>>> selected
>> and start talking.
>>> When you are done, double tap it again.
>>> Thank you for your assistance,
>>> Timothy Hornik
>>> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
>>> H: 785.856.1172
>>> M: 785.330.3503
>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
>>> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.horn

Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Alex Hall]

It is $20 in the app store. That is an amazing price, though, and it
has the advantage of simply downloading and updating, not the
hours-long tedium and nail-biting of a windows upgrade (which costs a
lot more).

On 7/25/12, Kimsan  wrote:
> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
>
> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
> today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
>
> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I
>> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will
>> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
>> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little
>> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of
>> Coive
> Over.
>>
>> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no
>> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did
>> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did
>> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my system
>> is
> a Mac Mini from last year.
>> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button
>> to logging in.
>>
>> Notification Center Set up:
>> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to
>> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the
>> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I
>> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>>
>> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to
>> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that
>> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive
>> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do
>> on the iPhone and iPad.
>>
>> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center.
>> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close
>> button.
>>
>> Messaging
>> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only
>> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you
>> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift
>> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and
>> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the
>> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option
>> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your
>> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>>
>> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is,
>> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with
>> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations
>> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>>
>> Dictation
>> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go
>> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation and
> Speech.
>> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an
>> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of
>> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other
>> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you
>> selected
> and start talking.
>> When you are done, double tap it again.
>> Thank you for your assistance,
>> Timothy Hornik
>> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
>> H: 785.856.1172
>> M: 785.330.3503
>> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
>> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Doug Lawlor]

When your system reboots for the first time you can turn on VoiceOver at this 
point to get your percentage of your install progress and the approximate time 
left. When my system rebooted for the second  time VoiceOver came up speaking. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 2:53 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
> installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I did 
> my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver going, 
> your computer has gone bye-bye for a while. 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  
>> First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make 
>> certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by 
>> searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  
>> It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the 
>> most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase 
>> Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will re-boot.  You may have 
>> to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you will then have speech 
>> through the remainder of the installation process.  It took me about an hour 
>> to do the install, just finished, and all went well.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
>>> away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
>>> So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
>>> 
>>> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
>>> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
>>> right.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
>>> 
>>> Where do I put it?
>>> 
>>> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
>>> 
>>> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
>>> 
>>> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
>>> 
>>> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Kirsten 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Loving Mountain Lion

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks for the great info, Timothy, it helped me get up and running more 
quickly.

I really have to agree with everyone's comments.  I'm *loving Mountain Lion.  
The install went flawlessly, and I'm loving the notification center and the 
dictation.  Next stop messaging!
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Timothy Hornik  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I played 
> with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will cover some of the 
> basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. First off, I am not an uber 
> mac user, just a standard user with little to no experience with 
> understanding anything outside fundamentals of Coive Over.
> 
> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no worries. Just 
> make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did to prepare for the 
> install was update my billing information. I did not update any software, run 
> the checker, or anything else as my system is a Mac Mini from last year. The 
> entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button to logging 
> in.
> 
> Notification Center Set up:
> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to the 
> shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the Notification 
> Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I am using Command 
> Option Shift N for mine.
> 
> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to the 
> Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that use the 
> Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive either an alert, 
> banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do on the iPhone and iPad.
> 
> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. To 
> move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
> 
> Messaging
> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only sent a 
> message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you need to dig 
> it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift A or go through 
> finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and insert your iCloud 
> information. You will also want to go into the dock, and find the Message 
> App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option and then keep in Dock. I say this, 
> cause you will want this in your dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut 
> for it. 
> 
> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with the 
> same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations from your Mac 
> and then pick it up while traveling.
> 
> Dictation
> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go back 
> to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation and Speech. 
> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of either 
> the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other combination. When you 
> are in a text field, double tap the key you selected and start talking. When 
> you are done, double tap it again.
> Thank you for your assistance,
> Timothy Hornik 
> timothy.hor...@gmail.com 
> H: 785.856.1172 
> M: 785.330.3503 
> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5 
> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/ 
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Chris Blouch]

Considering how new your machine is you should be fine. Main hindrance 
has been the video chipset. Apparently the latest UI makes heavy use of 
the GPU and some older ones aren't up to the task. osxdaily has a nice 
summary but generally if you have anything 2009 or newer you should be 
ok. If you have something older with an Intel GMA 950, Intel x3100 or 
ATI Radeon X1600 or lower you're out of luck.


http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/16/os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-system-requirements/

official final requirements are here:

http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/

CB

On 7/25/12 2:01 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech specs 
page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be upgraded 
(along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in February, 
2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:


It's $19.99


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion

Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
today, and I'll keep this all in mind.

On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I
played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will
cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little
to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of
Coive

Over.

Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no
worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did
to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did
not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my
system is

a Mac Mini from last year.

The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button
to logging in.

Notification Center Set up:
First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to
the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the
Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I
am using Command Option Shift N for mine.

Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to
the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that
use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive
either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do
on the iPhone and iPad.

Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center.
To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.

Messaging
I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only
sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you
need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift
A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and
insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the
dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option
and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your
dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.

The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is,
iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with
the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations
from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.

Dictation
Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go
back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation
and

Speech.

Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an
activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of
either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other
combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you
selected

and start talking.

When you are done, double tap it again.
Thank you for your assistance,
Timothy Hornik
timothy.hor...@gmail.com
H: 785.856.1172
M: 785.330.3503
LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/

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Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install

[Teresa Cochran]

Oh, growl! Folks, I have a 3.43-gig image and a 3.37-gig DVD. Not good. 
Just be aware of this if you're doing a clean install. I'm going to use an 
8-gig USB drive. Clever Apple. ...

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Re: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install

[Chris Blouch]

I thought DVDs, for data use, could hold 4.7GB? 9GB if it's a 
double-layer disc.


CB

On 7/25/12 2:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Oh, growl! Folks, I have a 3.43-gig image and a 3.37-gig DVD. Not good. 
Just be aware of this if you're doing a clean install. I'm going to use an 
8-gig USB drive. Clever Apple. ...

Teresa



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VIP's in Mountain Lion?

[brianna Snyder]

Hi everyone, 

I'm trying to learn my way around Mountain Lion. The experience is 
alright so far. I love the access to status menus from third party apps. 

I just have a question. Does anyone know how you make a person a VIP in Mail? 

Thanks in advance,  
Brianna 

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RE: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install

[Daniel Miller]

Yes, DVD single layer can hold 4.7GB, the ML installer is only 4.4GB.


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I thought DVDs, for data use, could hold 4.7GB? 9GB if it's a double-layer
disc.

CB

On 7/25/12 2:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>   Oh, growl! Folks, I have a 3.43-gig image and a 3.37-gig DVD. Not
good. Just be aware of this if you're doing a clean install. I'm going to
use an 8-gig USB drive. Clever Apple. ...
>
> Teresa
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Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion 
installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under 
Mountain Lyon.  I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had 
authorization problems in the past.

Thanks for any reports.
 Eric Caron 

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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Alex Hall]

Out of curiosity, has anyone done this with bootcamp? I have refit
installed, so I press m for mac or w for windows when I push the power
button. Should I press m after each reboot, or just leave it alone?
I've managed to update to 10.7.2, .3, and .4 okay, but I've never done
a full OS upgrade (my mini came with Lion).

On 7/25/12, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
> When your system reboots for the first time you can turn on VoiceOver at
> this point to get your percentage of your install progress and the
> approximate time left. When my system rebooted for the second  time
> VoiceOver came up speaking.
>
> Doug
>
> On 2012-07-25, at 2:53 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>
>> Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're
>> installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I
>> did my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver
>> going, your computer has gone bye-bye for a while.
>>
>> Eugenia Firth
>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>
>>> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.
>>> First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make
>>> certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store
>>> by searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates
>>> available.  It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain
>>> you have the most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this,
>>> just purchase Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will
>>> re-boot.  You may have to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you
>>> will then have speech through the remainder of the installation process.
>>> It took me about an hour to do the install, just finished, and all went
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Les
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being
 away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion
 installed. So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac
 before

 I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there
 was a pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that
 I get it right.

 Is there anything I need to do before I install?

 Where do I put it?

 Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.

 If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.

 Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…

 There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.

 Thanks.
 Kirsten


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Re: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install

[Teresa Cochran]

Hmmm, I'm using Simply Burns and it says my disc doesn't have enough room. 
Maybe I got an off-brand or something? Very odd indeed. In any case, it won't 
burn, because it's giving me this error consistently.

Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

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> Yes, DVD single layer can hold 4.7GB, the ML installer is only 4.4GB.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:24 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install
> 
> I thought DVDs, for data use, could hold 4.7GB? 9GB if it's a double-layer
> disc.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/25/12 2:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>  Oh, growl! Folks, I have a 3.43-gig image and a 3.37-gig DVD. Not
> good. Just be aware of this if you're doing a clean install. I'm going to
> use an 8-gig USB drive. Clever Apple. ...
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[chris hallsworth]

iCloud is great as should you need to restore your iOS device and no doubt 
your mac you can restore from a previous iCloud backup.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kirsten Edmondson" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Installing mountain lion


Apparently vm is fine.
I don't have iCloud set up, it scares me marginally more than iTunes with 
regard to loss and salvation of my data.
Posts on list suggest its use is paramount. Should I set up iCloud before 
install? Is its use necessary? If I set it up, any tips for not losing 
everything from Mac, iPhone and iPad!?



Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:23, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I 
did my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver 
going, your computer has gone bye-bye for a while.


Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:

Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this. 
First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make 
certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store 
by searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates 
available.  It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain 
you have the most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, 
just purchase Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will 
re-boot.  You may have to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you 
will then have speech through the remainder of the installation process. 
It took me about an hour to do the install, just finished, and all went 
well.


Les
On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
 wrote:



Hi all,
I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion 
installed. So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac 
before


I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there 
was a pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that 
I get it right.


Is there anything I need to do before I install?

Where do I put it?

Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.

If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.

Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…

There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.

Thanks.
Kirsten


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RE: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

[Missy Hoppe]

Does this affect Bootcamp as well? I don't use VM, but am slightly nervous that 
something might happen to bootcamp.

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On Behalf Of Eric Caron
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Subject: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

Hi listers,

Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion 
installation, please let us know if the machine is
still working nicely under Mountain Lyon.  I'm especially interested in those 
with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems
in the past.

Thanks for any reports.
 Eric Caron

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RE: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install

[Daniel Miller]

Use disc utility.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install

Hmmm, I'm using Simply Burns and it says my disc doesn't have enough room.
Maybe I got an off-brand or something? Very odd indeed. In any case, it
won't burn, because it's giving me this error consistently.

Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Yes, DVD single layer can hold 4.7GB, the ML installer is only 4.4GB.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:24 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tricky Process for DVD Creation of ML Install
> 
> I thought DVDs, for data use, could hold 4.7GB? 9GB if it's a 
> double-layer disc.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/25/12 2:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>  Oh, growl! Folks, I have a 3.43-gig image and a 3.37-gig DVD. Not
> good. Just be aware of this if you're doing a clean install. I'm going 
> to use an 8-gig USB drive. Clever Apple. ...
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: VIP's in Mountain Lion?

[Matthew Campbell]

Hi.
You need to go in to the message content area. There's a red button there that 
will make the person a VIP.
HTH,

On 2012-07-25, at 2:25 PM, brianna Snyder  wrote:

> Hi everyone, 
> 
>   I'm trying to learn my way around Mountain Lion. The experience is 
> alright so far. I love the access to status menus from third party apps. 
> 
> I just have a question. Does anyone know how you make a person a VIP in Mail? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,  
> Brianna 
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Airplay, was: Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Chris Gilland]

Here's my question:

Why can I not get Airplay to show up in my menu bar?  I've got an Apple TV 3rd 
Gen that I want to Airplay to, and I hear in ML that was a new feature which is 
supposed to be there.  I hear it may be a hardware issue with my macbook not 
being compatible, but how could that be hardware related?  I'm using a stocked 
non customized mid 2010 13 inch white macbook.

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>  
> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>  
> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>  
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Re: VIP's in Mountain Lion?

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi Brianna,

Only way i found so far is the following:
Open the message of the sender you want to add to VIPs.
Then interact with the Headerstext group (I don't know exactly how it's called 
in English cause I use Dutch, but I mean at the top of the message body).
Then at the far most left interact with the Headertext and focus on the address 
hou want to add to VIPs and hit vo+shift+m for the quickmenu and select Add to 
VIP.
that should do the trick.
Hopefully there is a shortcut for this as well:)
Kindly,
Ronald
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volgende geschreven:

> Hi everyone, 
> 
>   I'm trying to learn my way around Mountain Lion. The experience is 
> alright so far. I love the access to status menus from third party apps. 
> 
> I just have a question. Does anyone know how you make a person a VIP in Mail? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,  
> Brianna 
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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Chris Gilland]

It'll do it as an upgrade, and yes, if it says downloading dimmed, that means 
it's going, and eventually your installer window will pop up on the screen.  Be 
ware, I have a really really sweet connection over here, and even for me, it 
took a day and a year to finish the download, so don't be alarmed if it takes 
forever and a day.  That's perfectly normal.

Your system will restart twice.  Once to start the actual install, and a second 
time once it's finished.  Be ware that after the first restart, Voiceover will 
need to be enabled again with command F5, or FN+Command+F5, depending on how 
you had it previously set.

No, it won't wipe your drive, if you go through the app store to do it.  It's 
simply an upgrade.  Now, having said that though, I still would encourage you 
first to make a backup.  Be ware that because of the fact you're upgrading to a 
new version of OSX, I do not think, though I could be wrong, that you will be 
able to restore from a ™ backup from a previous version of OSX.  Your best bet 
would be either manually to back things up to an external drive, or to DVD's, 
or even better, do what I did, and buy a copy of Super Dooper.  Trust me.  It's 
really worth it!  OK, there is the free Carbon Copy Cloner, yes, but me 
personally… I never really could get that thing to work correctly.  Don't 
really know why, but it kept giving me errors left and right when I tried 
cloning.

Chris.

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> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or OS 
> upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and 
> followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is 
> dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs; does 
> this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.  Hope I 
> didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now and look 
> into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
>> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
>> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
>> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
>> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
>> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>> 
>> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>> 
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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Chris Gilland]

No, you'll be fine.  You have to tell it to install once downloaded.

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks to all of you for the quick reply.  It's poking along just fine.  
> Unfortunately, I have to leave to go to work while download is progressing; I 
> assume it will just just sit there after completion? I sure wouldn't want it 
> to start installing while I was gone:).
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
>> Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain Lion 
>> download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
>> Good luck,
>> Matthew Campbell.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> 
>>> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or 
>>> OS upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and 
>>> followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is 
>>> dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs; 
>>> does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.  
>>> Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now 
>>> and look into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
 noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
 
 •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you 
 had to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
 •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ 
 menu, accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
 •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
 
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Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Chris Gilland]

Actually, 

It'll sit there for about 5 minutes, then you'll start hearing some crackles, 
then a few pops, a few bangs and booms, then come the sparks, and a real nice 
explosion.  LOL!  I'm just kidding with ya.  Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> lol,
> 
> yes.  It will just sit there.  It needs your prompts to select where it is 
> installed etc.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to all of you for the quick reply.  It's poking along just fine.  
>> Unfortunately, I have to leave to go to work while download is progressing; 
>> I assume it will just just sit there after completion? I sure wouldn't want 
>> it to start installing while I was gone:).
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
>>> Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain 
>>> Lion download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Matthew Campbell.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>> 
 Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS or 
 OS upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and 
 followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that 
 is dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or 
 dialogs; does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just 
 wondering.  Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just 
 download it for now and look into a full re-install instead of an 
 over-the-top upgrade.
 
 On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
> Hello,
> 
> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
> 
> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you 
> had to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ 
> menu, accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
> 
> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
> 
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Les Kriegler]

When you start the installation, VO will already be running, or at least it 
should be.  You only have to enable it when you re-start.  As to when to invoke 
VO, I waited about a minute or so, and tried it.  If it doesn't work, just keep 
trying with Command F5 and it will give the familiar message, VoiceOver on and 
then you're good to go.  The voice will be different, but when you re-start a 
second time once Mountain Lion is installed, the familiar Alex will return.

Les
On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
> installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I did 
> my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver going, 
> your computer has gone bye-bye for a while. 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  
>> First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make 
>> certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by 
>> searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  
>> It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the 
>> most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase 
>> Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will re-boot.  You may have 
>> to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you will then have speech 
>> through the remainder of the installation process.  It took me about an hour 
>> to do the install, just finished, and all went well.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
>>> away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
>>> So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
>>> 
>>> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
>>> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
>>> right.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
>>> 
>>> Where do I put it?
>>> 
>>> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
>>> 
>>> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
>>> 
>>> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
>>> 
>>> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Kirsten 
>>> 
>>> 
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iMessage with a Mac

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

OK, so I have Mountain Lion, all good so far, how does one configure it to use 
my iCloud address for iMessage, I see nothing about it within System 
Preferences?

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Re: Airplay, was: Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Austin Seraphin]

Interesting. I just tried getting AirFoil working, and it crashed with this 
error:

NSOSStatusErrorDomain (Error: #-10810)

I don't know if it relates, but found it interesting we both have an AirPlay 
problem. I'll send them an email.

 - Austin




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> Here's my question:
> 
> Why can I not get Airplay to show up in my menu bar?  I've got an Apple TV 
> 3rd Gen that I want to Airplay to, and I hear in ML that was a new feature 
> which is supposed to be there.  I hear it may be a hardware issue with my 
> macbook not being compatible, but how could that be hardware related?  I'm 
> using a stocked non customized mid 2010 13 inch white macbook.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
>> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>>  
>> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
>> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
>> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
>> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
>> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>>  
>> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>>  
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

If I upgrade from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion, without doing a reformat of my 
whole hard drive, will it wipe all my data, and I have to migrate it all back 
from a backup, or will all my stuff still be there?  I'm still mired in 
old-school thinking I'm afraid.


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Re: iMessage with a Mac

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Neil,

It's under the prefs section for iMessage.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> OK, so I have Mountain Lion, all good so far, how does one configure it to 
> use my iCloud address for iMessage, I see nothing about it within System 
> Preferences?
> 
> cheers.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> 
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Re: VIP's in Mountain Lion?

[brianna Snyder]

Hi, 

THanks a lot, guys. At least now I get how to do that little trick of Mountain 
Lion's, now I just have to learn everything else. 

Thanks again,  
Brianna 

On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:

> Hi Brianna,
> 
> Only way i found so far is the following:
> Open the message of the sender you want to add to VIPs.
> Then interact with the Headerstext group (I don't know exactly how it's 
> called in English cause I use Dutch, but I mean at the top of the message 
> body).
> Then at the far most left interact with the Headertext and focus on the 
> address hou want to add to VIPs and hit vo+shift+m for the quickmenu and 
> select Add to VIP.
> that should do the trick.
> Hopefully there is a shortcut for this as well:)
> Kindly,
> Ronald
> Op 25 jul. 2012, om 20:25 heeft brianna Snyder  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> 
>>  I'm trying to learn my way around Mountain Lion. The experience is 
>> alright so far. I love the access to status menus from third party apps. 
>> 
>> I just have a question. Does anyone know how you make a person a VIP in 
>> Mail? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,  
>> Brianna 
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Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

[Chris Gilland]

Bootcamp is on a whole seperet partition, so I really doubt it.

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:42 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:

> Does this affect Bootcamp as well? I don't use VM, but am slightly nervous 
> that something might happen to bootcamp.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion 
> installation, please let us know if the machine is
> still working nicely under Mountain Lyon.  I'm especially interested in those 
> with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems
> in the past.
> 
> Thanks for any reports.
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Re: iMessage with a Mac

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Donna,

But, where is this in the first place? :) thanks.


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On 25 Jul 2012, at 20:02, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> It's under the prefs section for iMessage.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
> wrote:
> 
>> OK, so I have Mountain Lion, all good so far, how does one configure it to 
>> use my iCloud address for iMessage, I see nothing about it within System 
>> Preferences?
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> 
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Re: iMessage with a Mac

[Chris Gilland]

If I understand correctly, IMessage replaced IChat.  It's identically the same 
exact interface, except that now IMessage is included as one of the protocols 
in addition to AIM, Jabber, etc. that you can use.  So, my guess it you set it 
up within the app, which should be in the dock.  If not, it's definitely in 
your applications directory.

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> OK, so I have Mountain Lion, all good so far, how does one configure it to 
> use my iCloud address for iMessage, I see nothing about it within System 
> Preferences?
> 
> cheers.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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RE: Airplay, was: Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Daniel Miller]

1. AirPlay Mirroring requires a second-generation Apple TV or later, and
is supported on the following Mac models: iMac (Mid 2011 or newer), Mac mini
(Mid 2011 or newer), MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer), and MacBook Pro (Early
2011 or newer).

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Austin Seraphin
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay, was: Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!
Importance: High

 

Interesting. I just tried getting AirFoil working, and it crashed with this
error:

 

NSOSStatusErrorDomain (Error: #-10810)

 

I don't know if it relates, but found it interesting we both have an AirPlay
problem. I'll send them an email.


 - Austin

 





 

On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:





Here's my question:

 

Why can I not get Airplay to show up in my menu bar?  I've got an Apple TV
3rd Gen that I want to Airplay to, and I hear in ML that was a new feature
which is supposed to be there.  I hear it may be a hardware issue with my
macbook not being compatible, but how could that be hardware related?  I'm
using a stocked non customized mid 2010 13 inch white macbook.

 

Chris.

 

On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:





Hello,

 

I just installed Mountain Lion, and it's simply amazing. Here's what I've
noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.

 

.VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had
to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.

.We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an 'Extras' menu,
accessed the same way you'd access the battery status, etc in Lion.

.Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.

 

As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I'll write back.

 

 

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Re: iMessage with a Mac

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Ah, now I get it, I never used iChat, but shall go find. thanks.


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On 25 Jul 2012, at 20:08, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> If I understand correctly, IMessage replaced IChat.  It's identically the 
> same exact interface, except that now IMessage is included as one of the 
> protocols in addition to AIM, Jabber, etc. that you can use.  So, my guess it 
> you set it up within the app, which should be in the dock.  If not, it's 
> definitely in your applications directory.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
> wrote:
> 
>> OK, so I have Mountain Lion, all good so far, how does one configure it to 
>> use my iCloud address for iMessage, I see nothing about it within System 
>> Preferences?
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
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>> 
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Re: Airplay, was: Re: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Chris Gilland]

Austin,

What model Mac are you using?  I'm trying to pinpoint down if this really is an 
issue with me not having a compatible system, or am I just stupid.

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Austin Seraphin  wrote:

> Interesting. I just tried getting AirFoil working, and it crashed with this 
> error:
> 
> NSOSStatusErrorDomain (Error: #-10810)
> 
> I don't know if it relates, but found it interesting we both have an AirPlay 
> problem. I'll send them an email.
> 
>  - Austin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> Here's my question:
>> 
>> Why can I not get Airplay to show up in my menu bar?  I've got an Apple TV 
>> 3rd Gen that I want to Airplay to, and I hear in ML that was a new feature 
>> which is supposed to be there.  I hear it may be a hardware issue with my 
>> macbook not being compatible, but how could that be hardware related?  I'm 
>> using a stocked non customized mid 2010 13 inch white macbook.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>  
>>> I just installed Mountain Lion, and it’s simply amazing. Here’s what I’ve 
>>> noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
>>>  
>>> •VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you had 
>>> to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
>>> •We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an ‘Extras’ menu, 
>>> accessed the same way you’d access the battery status, etc in Lion.
>>> •Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
>>>  
>>> As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I’ll write back.
>>>  
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Re: Loving Mountain Lion

[Mike Arrigo]

One of my mac minis will not run it, I plan on upgrading fairly soon, 
but I think I will watch the list traffic for a little while first just 
to make sure there are no major issues. I may wait until 10.8.1, not 
sure yet, I'm sure I will probably upgrade within the next few weeks.

Original message:

Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days,
maybe today, and I'll keep this all in mind.



On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:

Hello everyone,



I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I played
with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will cover some of
the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. First off, I am not an
uber mac user, just a standard user with little to no experience with
understanding anything outside fundamentals of Coive Over.



Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no worries. Just
make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did to prepare for the
install was update my billing information. I did not update any software,
run the checker, or anything else as my system is a Mac Mini from last year.
The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button to
logging in.



Notification Center Set up:
First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to the
shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the Notification
Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I am using Command
Option Shift N for mine.



Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to the
Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that use the
Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive either an alert,
banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do on the iPhone and
iPad.



Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. To
move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.



Messaging
I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only sent a
message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you need to dig
it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift A or go through
finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and insert your iCloud
information. You will also want to go into the dock, and find the Message
App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option and then keep in Dock. I say this,
cause you will want this in your dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut
for it.



The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is,
iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with the
same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations from your Mac
and then pick it up while traveling.



Dictation
Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go back
to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation and Speech.
Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an
activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of either
the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other combination. When
you are in a text field, double tap the key you selected and start talking.
When you are done, double tap it again.
Thank you for your assistance,
Timothy Hornik
timothy.hor...@gmail.com
H: 785.856.1172
M: 785.330.3503
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Mike Arrigo]

If you bought that macbook new than you are fine. I have the regular 
macbook from 2010 and it will have no problems running the new OS.

Original message:
I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech 
specs page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be 
upgraded (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my 
MacBook in February, 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup 
processor. Am I okay?

Christine
On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:



It's $19.99




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Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?



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Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
today, and I'll keep this all in mind.



On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:

Hello everyone,



I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I
played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will
cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little
to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of
Coive

Over.



Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no
worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did
to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did
not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my
system is

a Mac Mini from last year.

The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button
to logging in.



Notification Center Set up:
First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to
the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the
Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I
am using Command Option Shift N for mine.



Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to
the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that
use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive
either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do
on the iPhone and iPad.



Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center.
To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.



Messaging
I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only
sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you
need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift
A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and
insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the
dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option
and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your
dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.



The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is,
iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with
the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations
from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.



Dictation
Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go
back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation
and

Speech.

Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an
activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of
either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other
combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you
selected

and start talking.

When you are done, double tap it again.
Thank you for your assistance,
Timothy Hornik
timothy.hor...@gmail.com
H: 785.856.1172
M: 785.330.3503
LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
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Re: VIP's in Mountain Lion?

[Chris Gilland]

What exactly is V I P's?

I kind a know but what is it used for, and where does it come in handy?

Chris.

On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:04 PM, brianna Snyder  wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> THanks a lot, guys. At least now I get how to do that little trick of 
> Mountain Lion's, now I just have to learn everything else. 
> 
> Thanks again,  
> Brianna 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brianna,
>> 
>> Only way i found so far is the following:
>> Open the message of the sender you want to add to VIPs.
>> Then interact with the Headerstext group (I don't know exactly how it's 
>> called in English cause I use Dutch, but I mean at the top of the message 
>> body).
>> Then at the far most left interact with the Headertext and focus on the 
>> address hou want to add to VIPs and hit vo+shift+m for the quickmenu and 
>> select Add to VIP.
>> that should do the trick.
>> Hopefully there is a shortcut for this as well:)
>> Kindly,
>> Ronald
>> Op 25 jul. 2012, om 20:25 heeft brianna Snyder  
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to learn my way around Mountain Lion. The experience is 
>>> alright so far. I love the access to status menus from third party apps. 
>>> 
>>> I just have a question. Does anyone know how you make a person a VIP in 
>>> Mail? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,  
>>> Brianna 
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