Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option

2011-04-24 Thread Georges Zaynoun

Hi and happy Easter holiday!
Can one utilize rotor options from the ipad keybord dock? I use mostly 
my ipad from the keybord dock as I like it much that way, thanks.

Original message:

Hello all,



Just one quick note: this new rotor option was added in IOS 4.3.0.
This was also when the 4 finger flick up or down to go to the top or 
bottom of the screen was replaced with the 4 finger tap at the top half 
or bottom half of the screen, eliminating all 4 finger swipe gestures.





Cheers,
André



On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Esther wrote:



Hi Erik,


I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for 
"containers" is great.  Containers are the separate sub-units of the 
screen that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For 
example, in the Mail app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode 
there is a list of Mailboxes or messages on the left side of the 
screen, and the currently selected message displayed on the right.  
Similarly, in Settings you have the list of "Settings" categories on 
the left, and the detailed menu page (e.g. "Accessibility", 
"VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are two different 
containers, and it sounds as though the rotor has added an easy way to 
navigate between the two, which is something that I've been wanting.



HTH.  Cheers,



Esther



On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote:



Hello,


I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option 
within te software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys 
knw what this is? Thanks for the help.



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Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option

2011-04-24 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
on my iPad2 the containers option of the roter does exactly what people are 
saying, enables a quick way of moving from one side of a screen, or screen 
element to another. works very well, although I find it sometimes slower then 
the older four finger swipe left / right on the iPad1 I used to have running 
versions of the iOS older than v4.3.0 when this option was removed and replaced.

the containers option is only shown on the iPad as the iPhone does not have 
this display mode.


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On 19 Apr 2011, at 21:23, Esther wrote:

Hi Erik,

I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for 
"containers" is great.  Containers are the separate sub-units of the screen 
that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For example, in the Mail 
app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode there is a list of Mailboxes or 
messages on the left side of the screen, and the currently selected message 
displayed on the right.  Similarly, in Settings you have the list of "Settings" 
categories on the left, and the detailed menu page (e.g. "Accessibility", 
"VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are two different containers, 
and it sounds as though the rotor has added an easy way to navigate between the 
two, which is something that I've been wanting.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 

On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option within te 
> software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys knw what this is? 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Sent from my iPad

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Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option

2011-04-24 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
yes, you can use the roter using the keyboard doc or blue tooth keyboards.

enable quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time, 
you'll hear Voice Over say quick nav on.

no =w by pressing left or right on their own you'll navigate as usual, but by 
pressing up or down on its own you'll jump through content based on the current 
roter setting. you change the roter setting by either pressing the left and up 
arrow key at the same time, or the up and right arrow at the same time. or you 
can do the gesture on the screen, which is two fingers touching at the same 
time and rotating them 90 degrees left or right.

the options in the roter change depending on the type of content shown on the 
screen.




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On 24 Apr 2011, at 08:12, Georges Zaynoun wrote:

Hi and happy Easter holiday!
Can one utilize rotor options from the ipad keybord dock? I use mostly my ipad 
from the keybord dock as I like it much that way, thanks.
Original message:
> Hello all,

> Just one quick note: this new rotor option was added in IOS 4.3.0.
> This was also when the 4 finger flick up or down to go to the top or bottom 
> of the screen was replaced with the 4 finger tap at the top half or bottom 
> half of the screen, eliminating all 4 finger swipe gestures.



> Cheers,
> André

> On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Esther wrote:

>> Hi Erik,

>> I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for 
>> "containers" is great.  Containers are the separate sub-units of the screen 
>> that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For example, in the 
>> Mail app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode there is a list of 
>> Mailboxes or messages on the left side of the screen, and the currently 
>> selected message displayed on the right.  Similarly, in Settings you have 
>> the list of "Settings" categories on the left, and the detailed menu page 
>> (e.g. "Accessibility", "VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are 
>> two different containers, and it sounds as though the rotor has added an 
>> easy way to navigate between the two, which is something that I've been 
>> wanting.

>> HTH.  Cheers,

>> Esther

>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote:

>>> Hello,

>>> I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option within 
>>> te software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys knw what this 
>>> is? Thanks for the help.

>>> Sent from my iPad

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Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option

2011-04-24 Thread Simon Cavendish
When I use "container" option on my iPad. it doesn't seem to do what others 
have said here, i.e. go from section of the screen to another section. It just 
moves me through all the elements within all sections as I flick right or left 
with one finger. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for suggestions, Simon
On 24 Apr 2011, at 09:06, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> on my iPad2 the containers option of the roter does exactly what people are 
> saying, enables a quick way of moving from one side of a screen, or screen 
> element to another. works very well, although I find it sometimes slower then 
> the older four finger swipe left / right on the iPad1 I used to have running 
> versions of the iOS older than v4.3.0 when this option was removed and 
> replaced.
> 
> the containers option is only shown on the iPad as the iPhone does not have 
> this display mode.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> 
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> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Apr 2011, at 21:23, Esther wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for 
> "containers" is great.  Containers are the separate sub-units of the screen 
> that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For example, in the 
> Mail app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode there is a list of 
> Mailboxes or messages on the left side of the screen, and the currently 
> selected message displayed on the right.  Similarly, in Settings you have the 
> list of "Settings" categories on the left, and the detailed menu page (e.g. 
> "Accessibility", "VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are two 
> different containers, and it sounds as though the rotor has added an easy way 
> to navigate between the two, which is something that I've been wanting.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option within te 
>> software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys knw what this is? 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: extremely frustrated re: reading pfd files

2011-04-24 Thread Simon Cavendish
Esther, this is such a helpful description, thank you.

I also wonder wehther when reading in iBooks, one can read line by line? I 
don't ever see that option in the rotor on the iPad. Also, when reading pdf 
versions of "take control books" if I pause reading with double finger tap, and 
then switch to reading by word and start flicking, I always get taken to the 
beginning of the page I am on which is a nuisance if what I want to examine 
closely happens to be further down the page. Then once I've got the info I 
want, and switching back to continuous reading, I again get taken to the 
beginning of the page which is again irritating.

Is there a better way of reading than the one I've just described?

Best wishes

Simon
On 24 Apr 2011, at 04:10, Esther wrote:

> Hi Tony,
> 
> I'm sorry to hear you're having a difficult time reading the Objective C book 
> on your Mac.  I  went back to look at the Objective C book in PDF format that 
> you referenced, and this is readable in Preview provided that you remember to 
> interact with the material.  I can get this to work with Adobe Reader 
> (shudder). Stanza (on your Desktop) is really not designed for this.  If 
> you're reading the material in Safari, you may find it  easier to use the web 
> page version of the manual rather than the PDF file, but this is all doable.  
> However, I think it will be easiest for you to get started with this on your 
> iPod Touch, since the controls and navigation are already familiar to you.  
> This also means that I can  get you started progressing more quickly with 
> what you want to read.
> 
> First of all, let me say that now, having actually downloaded the PDF version 
> of the book, looked at the HTML version at the Apple Developer's Site URL 
> that Barry gave, and downloaded the free ePub version of the book from 
> iBooks, these are all the same book!  So, if I go back to my original post 
> that stated that since you mentioned in your introduction that you had an 
> iPod Touch, you could download the free iBooks app onto your iPod Touch from 
> the iTunes App Store and then find the free ebooks from the Apple Developer's 
> connection there, this was perfectly true.  On your iPod Touch, go to the 
> following App Store URL for iBooks:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8
> If you read this post on your iPod Touch, you can open the link to go 
> directly to the free iBooks app in your App Store.  "Purchase" it by double 
> tapping on the "Free" button, and supply your iTunes Store password to let it 
> download.  Then, from your iPod Touch:
> 
> 1. Launch the iBooks app on your iPod Touch
> 2. When the app opens, double tap the "Store" button in the top right corner 
> to go the store. 
> 3. Double tap the "Search" button (4th of 5 buttons on the bottom of the 
> screen).  
> 4. In the search field at the top of the screen, double tap and enter "apple" 
> using the virtual keyboard.  If you move your finger down from the search 
> text field, or alternatively if you flick past the "Clear text" and "Library" 
> buttons to the list of results, you'll hear "Apple Inc." and then "Apple 
> Developer Publications".
> 5. Double tapping on "Apple Developer Publications"  will bring up a list of 
> the 6 free publications in ePub format that can be read in the iBooks app.
> 6. Flick right to the 5th of these books, which will be "The Objective C 
> Programming Language" and double tap.  You can read reviews, etc. and the 
> brief description of the book, but since you already know you want to get 
> this book, just navigate (flick right) to the "Download" button and double 
> tap.
> 
> I'm going to paste in an excerpt from a recent viphone list post that 
> describes how to use bookmarks and searching in iBooks.  You can also use the 
> Table of Contents to navigate to pages.  If you want to read by characters or 
> words, change your rotor setting and then flick up or down.  Reading works 
> pretty well if you're using a paired Bluetooth Keyboard, and you can use 
> QuickNav keys to adjust the rotor (e.g., enter QuickNav mode by pressing the 
> Right and Left arrow keys on your keyboard, then use the arrow keys in 
> conjunction the command, control, and option keys to navigate.)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Esther
> Date: April 19, 2011
> Subject:  Using iPhone User Guides in iBooks [was Re: What's that new 
> command for changing screenpages]
> Hi Cher and Others, 
> 
> You can also get a copy of the User Guide for the iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad 
> from iBooks.  This is just the same version of the manual you can access 
> under the bookmarks in Safari, but in ePub format.  You have to download 
> iBooks as a free app from the App Store, since it isn't loaded onto the 
> device by default. Once you have launched iBooks, just go to the Store of 
> iBooks and type "Apple Inc." into the search field.  There are six user 
> guides -- two each for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad.  If you want th

Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option

2011-04-24 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
yes, you are doing that wrong, firstly ensure that the roter setting is set to 
container, now single finger swipe up or down will move through the various 
containers, or whatever you've set the roter to...

so the rule here is, swiping up and down moves through the objects as defined 
at that time by the roter, swiping left / right moves item by item and ignores 
the roter.


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On 24 Apr 2011, at 11:11, Simon Cavendish wrote:

When I use "container" option on my iPad. it doesn't seem to do what others 
have said here, i.e. go from section of the screen to another section. It just 
moves me through all the elements within all sections as I flick right or left 
with one finger. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for suggestions, Simon
On 24 Apr 2011, at 09:06, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> on my iPad2 the containers option of the roter does exactly what people are 
> saying, enables a quick way of moving from one side of a screen, or screen 
> element to another. works very well, although I find it sometimes slower then 
> the older four finger swipe left / right on the iPad1 I used to have running 
> versions of the iOS older than v4.3.0 when this option was removed and 
> replaced.
> 
> the containers option is only shown on the iPad as the iPhone does not have 
> this display mode.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> 
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> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Apr 2011, at 21:23, Esther wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for 
> "containers" is great.  Containers are the separate sub-units of the screen 
> that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For example, in the 
> Mail app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode there is a list of 
> Mailboxes or messages on the left side of the screen, and the currently 
> selected message displayed on the right.  Similarly, in Settings you have the 
> list of "Settings" categories on the left, and the detailed menu page (e.g. 
> "Accessibility", "VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are two 
> different containers, and it sounds as though the rotor has added an easy way 
> to navigate between the two, which is something that I've been wanting.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option within te 
>> software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys knw what this is? 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option

2011-04-24 Thread Simon Cavendish
Oh, thanks, Neil, that's great. I'm still very much a learner.

Simon
On 24 Apr 2011, at 11:31, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> yes, you are doing that wrong, firstly ensure that the roter setting is set 
> to container, now single finger swipe up or down will move through the 
> various containers, or whatever you've set the roter to...
> 
> so the rule here is, swiping up and down moves through the objects as defined 
> at that time by the roter, swiping left / right moves item by item and 
> ignores the roter.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
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> Twitter @neilbarnfather
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> 
> 
> 
> On 24 Apr 2011, at 11:11, Simon Cavendish wrote:
> 
> When I use "container" option on my iPad. it doesn't seem to do what others 
> have said here, i.e. go from section of the screen to another section. It 
> just moves me through all the elements within all sections as I flick right 
> or left with one finger. Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> Thanks for suggestions, Simon
> On 24 Apr 2011, at 09:06, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> 
>> on my iPad2 the containers option of the roter does exactly what people are 
>> saying, enables a quick way of moving from one side of a screen, or screen 
>> element to another. works very well, although I find it sometimes slower 
>> then the older four finger swipe left / right on the iPad1 I used to have 
>> running versions of the iOS older than v4.3.0 when this option was removed 
>> and replaced.
>> 
>> the containers option is only shown on the iPad as the iPhone does not have 
>> this display mode.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Apr 2011, at 21:23, Esther wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Erik,
>> 
>> I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for 
>> "containers" is great.  Containers are the separate sub-units of the screen 
>> that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For example, in the 
>> Mail app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode there is a list of 
>> Mailboxes or messages on the left side of the screen, and the currently 
>> selected message displayed on the right.  Similarly, in Settings you have 
>> the list of "Settings" categories on the left, and the detailed menu page 
>> (e.g. "Accessibility", "VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are 
>> two different containers, and it sounds as though the rotor has added an 
>> easy way to navigate between the two, which is something that I've been 
>> wanting.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther 
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option within 
>>> te software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys knw what this 
>>> is? Thanks for the help.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Facebook app now even more accessible

2011-04-24 Thread Simon Cavendish
Thanks, Krister, this is good news. Does the same apply to iPad? ALso, can you 
give me - if it is not too much - a short description of how you use Chat on 
the iPad with voiceover?

Best wishes

Simon
On 21 Apr 2011, at 22:57, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> After the long wait the facebook app is now at least as far as i have looked 
> fully accessible. The long standing bug where the comment and like buttons 
> weren't available is now gone. Next to the posts in the latest facebook app 
> posted April 20th are first an image that says "photo" and then an image that 
> says "comment or like". Double tapping this image brings up a couple of 
> images and two links one labeled "like" and another labeled "comment". Double 
> tapping one of the links does what it says it should so if you press the 
> "comment" link, a text box pops up where you can type your comment. Go ahead 
> and do so and when done press the "post" button in the upper right corner of 
> the screen and voila, your comment is there. When you've commented and want 
> to go back to the news feed, you just scrub and you get back to the news feed 
> screen alternatively you press the "newsfeed back" button and you're at the 
> news feed.
> The chat looks good as well, i have yet to get answers from those i chat 
> with, so i don't know how well it works, but it seems to work quite well.
> Apparently Facebook has fixed the crashing bug, for at least on my Iphone 4, 
> i didn't have any problems with the app crashing on me, but that could be 
> pure luck.:-)
> Take care and happy facebooking!
> /Krister
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RE: extremely frustrated re: reading pfd files

2011-04-24 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hi Carolyn and Esther.

I have the Pages program. It won't open PDFs. After trying to get one open
in Pages recently, I wrote to the list and asked about it. Ishe said Pages
can only export to PDF. 

Thank you Esther for that reminder. I do interact with the text in preview.
Reading by line works until I want to start examining a line one character
at a time. Then It starts reading way at the top of the document, which
Simon rightly dubbed a nuisance. I'll try again with PDFs that are not
available on iBookas epub files, but I will go with the iPod for reading the
epubs. It would be a lot better than having 2 laptops eradiating my mid
section at the same time and far less unwieldy. Again, thank you all for
your patience and willingness to help and for taking the time to post such
detailed messages.

Tony Hernandez
http://dutyofman.net/
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His
commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every
work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether
it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14)

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of carolyn Haas
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: extremely frustrated re: reading pfd files

Hi Tony:
People have done well with getting preview to do this.  I haven't ever done
well with pdf documents.  However, the Pages program will also work with
pdf.  And you can buy just that app from the mac store, which you'll find in
your Apple menu, (vo-shift-M and vo-arrow down to mac store.

HTH

Carolyn

On Apr 23, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I've ben trying all day to get various programs to work well reading PDFs
on the Mac and have gotten no where fast. The programs I've tried are Adobe
reader 10, Stanza, Skim, Preview, Safari, and Text Edit. These each have
bugs that either make the  document unreadable or difficult to read, or get
hung up. Skim completely freezes when I reach the end of a page and forces
me to close it out, which is unacceptable. Stanza does weird things with the
spacing and makes the information incomprehensible. Safari doesn't let me
interact with  the text properly  and insists on taking me to the very first
page no matter what part of the file is visible when I try to interact with
the text. Adobe is completely inaccessible. Text Edit just renders the file
as garbage characters. Preview doesn't track my location properly when I
read by line, so if I have to start reading by character, I'm completely
lost there too. I don't wish to pay for a pdf to text converter because I
don't have fond memories of such converters and I don't want to view the
information as text. Is there a program out there for the Mac that reads PDF
files, doesn't hang up or have quirky and distracting problems tracking the
cursor, etc.? So far my experience with viewing pdf files on the Mac has
been unhappy and worthy of 1 star. It's quite discouraging. I really, really
don't want to have to read all my Objective C stuff on Windows machines. I'm
at my wit's end with this and quite disappointed so far.
> 
> Tony Hernandez
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Re: Facebook app now even more accessible

2011-04-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Sorry i don't use Facebook on the Ipad so can't be of much help here. Maybe 
someone else who has used the Facebook app on the IPad could tell how it works. 
But on the IPhone it works great. The only gripe i have right now is that i 
don't like how the notifications section is layed out. I can only see the name 
of the one who's commented and the time of the comment, not what the person has 
commented on. I don't know if that is visible in some way or if this is the way 
it's supposed to work.
/Krister

24 apr 2011 kl. 12.40 skrev Simon Cavendish:

> Thanks, Krister, this is good news. Does the same apply to iPad? ALso, can 
> you give me - if it is not too much - a short description of how you use Chat 
> on the iPad with voiceover?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Simon
> On 21 Apr 2011, at 22:57, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> After the long wait the facebook app is now at least as far as i have looked 
>> fully accessible. The long standing bug where the comment and like buttons 
>> weren't available is now gone. Next to the posts in the latest facebook app 
>> posted April 20th are first an image that says "photo" and then an image 
>> that says "comment or like". Double tapping this image brings up a couple of 
>> images and two links one labeled "like" and another labeled "comment". 
>> Double tapping one of the links does what it says it should so if you press 
>> the "comment" link, a text box pops up where you can type your comment. Go 
>> ahead and do so and when done press the "post" button in the upper right 
>> corner of the screen and voila, your comment is there. When you've commented 
>> and want to go back to the news feed, you just scrub and you get back to the 
>> news feed screen alternatively you press the "newsfeed back" button and 
>> you're at the news feed.
>> The chat looks good as well, i have yet to get answers from those i chat 
>> with, so i don't know how well it works, but it seems to work quite well.
>> Apparently Facebook has fixed the crashing bug, for at least on my Iphone 4, 
>> i didn't have any problems with the app crashing on me, but that could be 
>> pure luck.:-)
>> Take care and happy facebooking!
>> /Krister
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Re: Facebook app now even more accessible

2011-04-24 Thread brandt
Double tapping the name will usually take you to the comment. I am rather 
fond of the facebook app, one of the few ways for a vi person to use 
Facebook chat.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Facebook app now even more accessible


Hi,
Sorry i don't use Facebook on the Ipad so can't be of much help here. Maybe 
someone else who has used the Facebook app on the IPad could tell how it 
works. But on the IPhone it works great. The only gripe i have right now is 
that i don't like how the notifications section is layed out. I can only see 
the name of the one who's commented and the time of the comment, not what 
the person has commented on. I don't know if that is visible in some way or 
if this is the way it's supposed to work.

/Krister

24 apr 2011 kl. 12.40 skrev Simon Cavendish:

Thanks, Krister, this is good news. Does the same apply to iPad? ALso, can 
you give me - if it is not too much - a short description of how you use 
Chat on the iPad with voiceover?


Best wishes

Simon
On 21 Apr 2011, at 22:57, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


Hi,
After the long wait the facebook app is now at least as far as i have 
looked fully accessible. The long standing bug where the comment and like 
buttons weren't available is now gone. Next to the posts in the latest 
facebook app posted April 20th are first an image that says "photo" and 
then an image that says "comment or like". Double tapping this image 
brings up a couple of images and two links one labeled "like" and another 
labeled "comment". Double tapping one of the links does what it says it 
should so if you press the "comment" link, a text box pops up where you 
can type your comment. Go ahead and do so and when done press the "post" 
button in the upper right corner of the screen and voila, your comment is 
there. When you've commented and want to go back to the news feed, you 
just scrub and you get back to the news feed screen alternatively you 
press the "newsfeed back" button and you're at the news feed.
The chat looks good as well, i have yet to get answers from those i chat 
with, so i don't know how well it works, but it seems to work quite well.
Apparently Facebook has fixed the crashing bug, for at least on my Iphone 
4, i didn't have any problems with the app crashing on me, but that could 
be pure luck.:-)

Take care and happy facebooking!
/Krister

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Re: A growl tip

2011-04-24 Thread Colin M
Hi Kevin!
I'm using Skype 5. something or other! :]
So if you've got the same!
1 open command+comma
2 interact with the tool bar
3 scroll to the notification button and vo+space on it, then stop interacting!
4 scroll to the events table and open it scroll down to the event you want and 
stop interacting!
5 when you scroll right from there you'll have options to check or uncheck the 
last one should be speak text and next to that should be the "@" came online 
[for example]
So when your happy with that selection go back to the table of events and 
choose another one to change!
hth Colin

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> How do i set them up in Notifications in Skype?
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Re: File handling on the Mac, somewhat techy

2011-04-24 Thread Jes Smith
I don't think there is an option like that. I could be wrong though.

On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi folks.
> I was deleting files from my beloved digital recorder today and had my 
> virtual machine up. It's a vmware virtual machine running Windows XP. I 
> decided to do some experimenting so i looked on my recorder from the PC side 
> of things and in the root of the memory was some files that the mac had left 
> on the recorder, namely some hidden files called .trashes, _.trashes, 
> .Spotlight-v100 etc. I think that those .trashes files have the same function 
> as what windows do on an external hard drive or a partition when it puts a 
> recycle.bin there so that you can put files in the trash even on a digital 
> recorder. I personally am not so worried about those files, but i know 
> friends who are worried that they will grow unproportionally as you through 
> things in the trash, so what it all boils down to is: Is there a way of 
> bypassing the trash alltogether and simply delete the files right away, 
> rather like you do in that other dreaded operating system if you so desire?
> Sorry for the somewhat longish post and thanks in advance for any help.
> /Krister.
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Re: File handling on the Mac, somewhat techy

2011-04-24 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Krister,
> 
> On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> I decided to do some experimenting so i looked on my recorder from the PC 
> side of things and in the root of the memory was some files that the mac had 
> left on the recorder, namely some hidden files called .trashes, _.trashes, 
> .Spotlight-v100 etc. I think that those .trashes files have the same function 
> as what windows do on an external hard drive or a partition when it puts a 
> recycle.bin there so that you can put files in the trash even on a digital 
> recorder. I personally am not so worried about those files, but i know 
> friends who are worried that they will grow unproportionally as you through 
> things in the trash, so what it all boils down to is: Is there a way of 
> bypassing the trash alltogether and simply delete the files right away, 
> rather like you do in that other dreaded operating system if you so desire?

I don't know anything about that other operating system, but on the Mac, if you 
empty the trash before disconnecting the device, those hidden files should 
disappear and the space will be freed up. I always do this with my Milestone 
and any USB drives.

Cheers,

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Text to audio file options [was Re: slow speech with sending to itunes as a spoken track]

2011-04-24 Thread Esther
Hi Kevin,

On Apr 21, 2011, at 21:23, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> What is the value of this service if you have Alex to read text.  Is
> this the way we got the Leopard podcast on VO read in the voice of
> Alex?
> 
The main reason that people want to use the service menu option for "Add to 
iTunes as a Spoken Track", or other means of transforming text to a spoken 
recording is to be able to listen to material when they don't have Alex around 
to read text -- for example, if they want to create mp3 files of text that they 
can transfer to an iPod, iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad for listening when they 
are out and about, away from their computer.  You can imagine quite a lot of 
other uses: reviewing documents or notes for work or school while you are 
commuting, creating a set of prompt notes with for when you have to give a 
presentation, creating descriptive announcement clips for joining onto the 
beginning of your podcast or music recordings, etc.

Another easy way to turn text into a recorded file is to use GhostReader from 
Assistiveware. This software can be bought as an add-on bundled discount with 
any Infovox iVox voice purchase for $10.  It's meant for the general market as 
a way to read documents, mail, and web pages with these voices (without 
VoiceOver), but has some nice additional features, such as a menu option to 
turn your selected text into an audio file that gets added to iTunes at the 
speaking rate you're using for the app.  There's an undocumented feature that 
lets you switch voices in mid-text by embedding control sequences. The way the 
voice/language switching works is by using the sequence:
\vce=speaker=newspeaker\
For example:
\vce=speaker=heather\I prefer to use English.
\vce=speaker=alice\Chacun à son goût.\vce=speaker=heather\
The first phrase is spoken in the U.S. English Heather voice, and the reply is 
given in French by the French Alice voice. The command to switch voices again 
follows Alice's reply, so the next text will be spoken in English. If you want 
to read through a dialog with voices speaking multiple languages, this is 
great.  It only works in GhostReader, and only with Infovox voices of the same 
quality (e.g., you can't mix the lower quality compressed versions of voices 
that come with GhostReader, and work only in that app to read mail, documents, 
and the web,  with the higher quality versions of the same voice that you can 
use system-wide, and which can be used with VoiceOver.

Two more options, which I'll paste in from an old post to the mac-access list 
(from over two years ago, so Automator is easier to use now than in that 
description).

From:   Esther 
Subject:Re: Text to speech and mp3
Date:   February 10, 2009
 

Here are two alternatives:
• Apple has a demo Automator workflow that converts text from your clipboard to 
an audio clip in iTunes. You could download this and modify it to work with a 
selected TextEdit file instead of the clipboard, and you could change the 
setting from AAC encoding to mp3.  The Apple URL is:

http://automator.us/leopard/examples/ex07/index.html

and you can get the workflow from the page's download link.  It's actually 
easier to check the components out under Automator. It's made up of 4 steps:

1. Get Contents from Clipboard
2. Text to Audio File
3. Import Audio Files
4. Add Songs to Playlist

You can hear these listed if you VO-right to the Workflow area of Automator, 
interact, and VO-down arrow through the list once you've downloaded it.

To run this as is, download the workflow and open it.  Select some text and 
copy to clipboard with Command-C.  Then do a Command-R to run the workflow.  As 
it stands, the workflow creates an AAC file called "Spoken Text" that it move 
into your iTunes library.  You can change the format to MP3 by interacting with 
the "Import Audio Files" action of the Workflow and VO-right to the popup 
button that specifies using the "AAC encoder" and setting this to "MP3 encoder".

There's a trick to getting text to speech to record this at a faster rate -- 
put the following characters at the beginning of the file:

[[rate 300]]

That's two left brackets (where left bracket is the key to the right of the "p" 
key), the word "rate", a space, and a number which is the words per minute, 
then two right brackets.  In the example used above, the rate is 300 words per 
minute.

What you really want to do is replace the "Get Contents from Clipboard" action 
with "Get Contents of TextEdit Document", but this is a little more 
complicated, since actions get added to the end of the workflow.  You'd have to 
first select the new action by
1. Navigating (VO-right) to the Actions Library, and selecting "Text" (press 
"t")
2. Navigate (VO-right) to the Actions table and select "Get Contents of 
TextEdit Document" (press "g")
3. Add this to the work flow (Interact with VO-Shift-Down arrow, Double-Click 
with VO-Shift-Space, stop interacting with VO-Shift-Up arrow).

At this 

Re: File handling on the Mac, somewhat techy

2011-04-24 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
If you want to delete some real files from your digital recorder, just put them 
in the trash then secure empty your trash on your mac before ejecting the 
recorder. That's always workedfor me on flash drives.
HTH,
Courtney

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Jes Smith  wrote:

> I don't think there is an option like that. I could be wrong though.
> 
> On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks.
>> I was deleting files from my beloved digital recorder today and had my 
>> virtual machine up. It's a vmware virtual machine running Windows XP. I 
>> decided to do some experimenting so i looked on my recorder from the PC side 
>> of things and in the root of the memory was some files that the mac had left 
>> on the recorder, namely some hidden files called .trashes, _.trashes, 
>> .Spotlight-v100 etc. I think that those .trashes files have the same 
>> function as what windows do on an external hard drive or a partition when it 
>> puts a recycle.bin there so that you can put files in the trash even on a 
>> digital recorder. I personally am not so worried about those files, but i 
>> know friends who are worried that they will grow unproportionally as you 
>> through things in the trash, so what it all boils down to is: Is there a way 
>> of bypassing the trash alltogether and simply delete the files right away, 
>> rather like you do in that other dreaded operating system if you so desire?
>> Sorry for the somewhat longish post and thanks in advance for any help.
>> /Krister.
>> 
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Re: extremely frustrated re: reading pfd files

2011-04-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi.

Text edit has always read PDF files for me.

Kawal.
On 24 Apr 2011, at 02:58, carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Tony:
> People have done well with getting preview to do this.  I haven't ever done 
> well with pdf documents.  However, the Pages program will also work with pdf. 
>  And you can buy just that app from the mac store, which you'll find in your 
> Apple menu, (vo-shift-M and vo-arrow down to mac store.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Carolyn
> 
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I've ben trying all day to get various programs to work well reading PDFs  
>> on the Mac and have gotten no where fast. The programs I've tried are Adobe 
>> reader 10, Stanza, Skim, Preview, Safari, and Text Edit. These each have 
>> bugs that either make the  document unreadable or difficult to read, or get 
>> hung up. Skim completely freezes when I reach the end of a page and forces 
>> me to close it out, which is unacceptable. Stanza does weird things with the 
>> spacing and makes the information incomprehensible. Safari doesn't let me 
>> interact with  the text properly  and insists on taking me to the very first 
>> page no matter what part of the file is visible when I try to interact with 
>> the text. Adobe is completely inaccessible. Text Edit just renders the file 
>> as garbage characters. Preview doesn't track my location properly when I 
>> read by line, so if I have to start reading by character, I'm completely 
>> lost there too. I don't wish to pay for a pdf to text converter because I 
>> don't have fond memories of such converters and I don't want to view the 
>> information as text. Is there a program out there for the Mac that reads PDF 
>> files, doesn't hang up or have quirky and distracting problems tracking the 
>> cursor, etc.? So far my experience with viewing pdf files on the Mac has 
>> been unhappy and worthy of 1 star. It's quite discouraging. I really, really 
>> don't want to have to read all my Objective C stuff on Windows machines. I'm 
>> at my wit's end with this and quite disappointed so far.
>> 
>> Tony Hernandez
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Re: File handling on the Mac, somewhat techy

2011-04-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
The strange thing with my friends Edirol R1 was that if she tried to empty the 
trash, she got a message saying that the .wav files were in use although they 
weren't. Taking out and inserting the recorder didn't work, the mac claimed the 
files were still in use.
/Krister

24 apr 2011 kl. 17.55 skrev Courtney Curran:

> Hi,
> If you want to delete some real files from your digital recorder, just put 
> them in the trash then secure empty your trash on your mac before ejecting 
> the recorder. That's always workedfor me on flash drives.
> HTH,
> Courtney
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Jes Smith  wrote:
> 
>> I don't think there is an option like that. I could be wrong though.
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> I was deleting files from my beloved digital recorder today and had my 
>>> virtual machine up. It's a vmware virtual machine running Windows XP. I 
>>> decided to do some experimenting so i looked on my recorder from the PC 
>>> side of things and in the root of the memory was some files that the mac 
>>> had left on the recorder, namely some hidden files called .trashes, 
>>> _.trashes, .Spotlight-v100 etc. I think that those .trashes files have the 
>>> same function as what windows do on an external hard drive or a partition 
>>> when it puts a recycle.bin there so that you can put files in the trash 
>>> even on a digital recorder. I personally am not so worried about those 
>>> files, but i know friends who are worried that they will grow 
>>> unproportionally as you through things in the trash, so what it all boils 
>>> down to is: Is there a way of bypassing the trash alltogether and simply 
>>> delete the files right away, rather like you do in that other dreaded 
>>> operating system if you so desire?
>>> Sorry for the somewhat longish post and thanks in advance for any help.
>>> /Krister.
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Re: File handling on the Mac, somewhat techy

2011-04-24 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Thanks.  This helps me out as well.  I noticed these extra files on an sd card 
the other day after transferring some files from my mac and then using the 
files on my braille sense.  I deleted them from the braille sense side, but now 
I can just do it before ejecting the card from now on.

Thanks,
Caitlyn

On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Krister,
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> I decided to do some experimenting so i looked on my recorder from the PC 
>> side of things and in the root of the memory was some files that the mac had 
>> left on the recorder, namely some hidden files called .trashes, _.trashes, 
>> .Spotlight-v100 etc. I think that those .trashes files have the same 
>> function as what windows do on an external hard drive or a partition when it 
>> puts a recycle.bin there so that you can put files in the trash even on a 
>> digital recorder. I personally am not so worried about those files, but i 
>> know friends who are worried that they will grow unproportionally as you 
>> through things in the trash, so what it all boils down to is: Is there a way 
>> of bypassing the trash alltogether and simply delete the files right away, 
>> rather like you do in that other dreaded operating system if you so desire?
> 
> I don't know anything about that other operating system, but on the Mac, if 
> you empty the trash before disconnecting the device, those hidden files 
> should disappear and the space will be freed up. I always do this with my 
> Milestone and any USB drives.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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safari tabs vs windows

2011-04-24 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
All:
I'm having problems finding the keyboard combos to navigate between Safari 
tabs, and Safari windows. Please help?

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Re: A growl tip

2011-04-24 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Well, I think I've done   what you suggested.  .  I didn't see an
event for "contact came on line.  So, i've chosen the sign in option.
Let's see what happens.

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Re: safari tabs vs windows

2011-04-24 Thread Jane
Safari Tabs control-tab

Safari Windows command-accent

Jane


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trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hi everyone. 

IS the trackpad commander only functional in certain models of Macbook? I have 
a 2006 model, which I think is the MA699 or 669. Thanks for any help.

Tony Hernandez

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Re: extremely frustrated re: reading pfd files

2011-04-24 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hi Esther. Once again you've come to the rescue. I can indeed view the very 
same book in iBooks as you said. Also, concerning preview, I was going about 
trying to read a character at a time the wrong way. I was trying to set the 
rotor to character and then using the down arrow key with quicknav turned on. I 
still have quicknav on, but now I just use VO-Shift-left or right arrow. I use 
preview for PDFs that I can't get on iBooks. Also, I have to remember to use 
the bookmark feature any time I leave the preview window because it will take 
me back to the very top of the PDF if I don't.

Again, thank you, Esther. I can see you took quite a bit of time to verify that 
the book you were talking about was the same book I was reading and how to 
search for it, etc., not to mention writing the email and even including a 
link. You're very kind.

Tony
On Apr 23, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Tony,
> 
> I'm sorry to hear you're having a difficult time reading the Objective C book 
> on your Mac.  I  went back to look at the Objective C book in PDF format that 
> you referenced, and this is readable in Preview provided that you remember to 
> interact with the material.  I can get this to work with Adobe Reader 
> (shudder). Stanza (on your Desktop) is really not designed for this.  If 
> you're reading the material in Safari, you may find it  easier to use the web 
> page version of the manual rather than the PDF file, but this is all doable.  
> However, I think it will be easiest for you to get started with this on your 
> iPod Touch, since the controls and navigation are already familiar to you.  
> This also means that I can  get you started progressing more quickly with 
> what you want to read.
> 
> First of all, let me say that now, having actually downloaded the PDF version 
> of the book, looked at the HTML version at the Apple Developer's Site URL 
> that Barry gave, and downloaded the free ePub version of the book from 
> iBooks, these are all the same book!  So, if I go back to my original post 
> that stated that since you mentioned in your introduction that you had an 
> iPod Touch, you could download the free iBooks app onto your iPod Touch from 
> the iTunes App Store and then find the free ebooks from the Apple Developer's 
> connection there, this was perfectly true.  On your iPod Touch, go to the 
> following App Store URL for iBooks:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8
> If you read this post on your iPod Touch, you can open the link to go 
> directly to the free iBooks app in your App Store.  "Purchase" it by double 
> tapping on the "Free" button, and supply your iTunes Store password to let it 
> download.  Then, from your iPod Touch:
> 
> 1. Launch the iBooks app on your iPod Touch
> 2. When the app opens, double tap the "Store" button in the top right corner 
> to go the store. 
> 3. Double tap the "Search" button (4th of 5 buttons on the bottom of the 
> screen).  
> 4. In the search field at the top of the screen, double tap and enter "apple" 
> using the virtual keyboard.  If you move your finger down from the search 
> text field, or alternatively if you flick past the "Clear text" and "Library" 
> buttons to the list of results, you'll hear "Apple Inc." and then "Apple 
> Developer Publications".
> 5. Double tapping on "Apple Developer Publications"  will bring up a list of 
> the 6 free publications in ePub format that can be read in the iBooks app.
> 6. Flick right to the 5th of these books, which will be "The Objective C 
> Programming Language" and double tap.  You can read reviews, etc. and the 
> brief description of the book, but since you already know you want to get 
> this book, just navigate (flick right) to the "Download" button and double 
> tap.
> 
> I'm going to paste in an excerpt from a recent viphone list post that 
> describes how to use bookmarks and searching in iBooks.  You can also use the 
> Table of Contents to navigate to pages.  If you want to read by characters or 
> words, change your rotor setting and then flick up or down.  Reading works 
> pretty well if you're using a paired Bluetooth Keyboard, and you can use 
> QuickNav keys to adjust the rotor (e.g., enter QuickNav mode by pressing the 
> Right and Left arrow keys on your keyboard, then use the arrow keys in 
> conjunction the command, control, and option keys to navigate.)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Esther
> Date: April 19, 2011
> Subject:  Using iPhone User Guides in iBooks [was Re: What's that new 
> command for changing screenpages]
> Hi Cher and Others, 
> 
> You can also get a copy of the User Guide for the iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad 
> from iBooks.  This is just the same version of the manual you can access 
> under the bookmarks in Safari, but in ePub format.  You have to download 
> iBooks as a free app from the App Store, since it isn't loaded onto the 
> device by default. Once you have launched iBooks, just go to the Store of 
> iBooks and typ

Re: A growl tip

2011-04-24 Thread Colin M
Hi Kevin!
The ones you want are!
Contact becomes available
Contact becomes unavailable!
That should sort you out!
Also have a look at the others to see if they might be of use to you!
I've set up some of my own sounds for things like new contact request and 
others!
But you might want them to speak!
So when you've picked the event you wish to look at and you've stop interacting 
with the events table scroll across to check or uncheck the different options!
hth Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

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> Well, I think I've done   what you suggested.  .  I didn't see an
> event for "contact came on line.  So, i've chosen the sign in option.
> Let's see what happens.
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Re: trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Tony,
I don't know about your specific model of Macbook, but my instinct would be 
that it is a bit too early for the multitouch trackpads to have been added.  My 
own MacBook Pro has one, but it's late 2010.  I'm afraid you're probably out of 
luck with the trackpad commander, which is a shame because that really is a 
nice feature.
Sorry I'm not more encouraging.  If you really wanted to, I suppose you could 
get a magic trackpad and hook that up, though if you ask me it's more trouble 
than its worth.
Best,
Zack.
On Apr 24, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:

> Hi everyone. 
> 
> IS the trackpad commander only functional in certain models of Macbook? I 
> have a 2006 model, which I think is the MA699 or 669. Thanks for any help.
> 
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Re: safari tabs vs windows

2011-04-24 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Command accent! That is the one I always forget. LOL Thank you,
Sarai Bucciarelli
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On Apr 24, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jane wrote:

> Safari Tabs control-tab
> 
> Safari Windows command-accent
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> All:
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>> tabs, and Safari windows. Please help?
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Dashboard

2011-04-24 Thread Ezzy Bueno

Hello Listers,

 Happy Easter to you all.
 I've been using a MacBook Pro for some time, but have not 
really played around with the dashboard. I know I can check the 
weather via the dashboard. How exactly can I review the forecast 
of different cities?

 Any help will be appreciated.

Ezzie Bueno
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Re: trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hi Zack. No worries. I just wanted to make sure I was not doing something 
wrong. It's all good. Thanks for the reply.

Tony
On Apr 24, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Tony,
> I don't know about your specific model of Macbook, but my instinct would be 
> that it is a bit too early for the multitouch trackpads to have been added.  
> My own MacBook Pro has one, but it's late 2010.  I'm afraid you're probably 
> out of luck with the trackpad commander, which is a shame because that really 
> is a nice feature.
> Sorry I'm not more encouraging.  If you really wanted to, I suppose you could 
> get a magic trackpad and hook that up, though if you ask me it's more trouble 
> than its worth.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone. 
>> 
>> IS the trackpad commander only functional in certain models of Macbook? I 
>> have a 2006 model, which I think is the MA699 or 669. Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Tony Hernandez
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Re: trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread CJ Daniel
Tony,

If your MB Pro is 2008 or before, you're out of luck.  I'm in the same boat.  
My MB Pro is late 2008 or second generation.  So, I used an Apple gift card I 
had & spent $69 for the blue tooth Magic Track Pad.  I think it's great!  But, 
I admit I've become so used to using the keyboard that I only use the pad for 
some commands.  I'd probably use it more if it were right on the laptop.  It is 
fun to use though, I'll admit.

Happy Easter,

CJ


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> Hi everyone. 
> 
> IS the trackpad commander only functional in certain models of Macbook? I 
> have a 2006 model, which I think is the MA699 or 669. Thanks for any help.
> 
> Tony Hernandez
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Re: Dashboard

2011-04-24 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Ezzy:

I can help out with Dashboard off list, if you want, via Skype, as we have 
before.  Very briefly:

Pressing F4, or Function F-12, depending on how your keyboard preferences are 
configured, will bring up Dashboard.  Dashboard is a series of widgets, 
mini-apps, which are like tiny little tools you might keep on the dashboard of 
your car--tweezers, mini-flashlight, cigarette lighter, gold-framed photo of 
me, whatever.

Choosing which widget you want is done by hitting VO F2 (OR VO Function F2, 
depending on the above keyboard settings) twice quickly.  Then, use the up and 
down arrows until you come to Weather, and press Enter.  

To change the forecast shown, VO right arrow until you come to an image labeled 
with the name of the city whose forecast is currently being shown.  This is 
important:  You MUST VO SHIFT Space bar on this image, to enact a mouse click, 
otherwise nothing will happen.

If you VO Shift Space on this "(city name) info," image, it should bring up an 
edit box in which you can type the zip code for your city.  Once you type that 
in, VO navigate to the "DONE," button and, once again, you must mouse-click, or 
VO SHIFt Space-bar, on it.  This should set it up to always bring up your 
forecast when you hit F4 or whatever your keyboard is set for.

Hope that helps--blow up my Skype if not.

Sorry for the "very brief," lie in the beginning; really, everything I say is a 
lie.


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RE: trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread
So, is the track pad commander compatable with the iphones?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trackpad commander

Hi Zack. No worries. I just wanted to make sure I was not doing something
wrong. It's all good. Thanks for the reply.

Tony
On Apr 24, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Tony,
> I don't know about your specific model of Macbook, but my instinct would
be that it is a bit too early for the multitouch trackpads to have been
added.  My own MacBook Pro has one, but it's late 2010.  I'm afraid you're
probably out of luck with the trackpad commander, which is a shame because
that really is a nice feature.
> Sorry I'm not more encouraging.  If you really wanted to, I suppose you
could get a magic trackpad and hook that up, though if you ask me it's more
trouble than its worth.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone. 
>> 
>> IS the trackpad commander only functional in certain models of Macbook? I
have a 2006 model, which I think is the MA699 or 669. Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Tony Hernandez
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Slightly O-T: Blind musicians list

2011-04-24 Thread Chris Norman
Hiya All,
I'm sorry that some of the lists I've posted this too, mean the post is 
slightly Off topic, but I'd like this to get to as many blind / visually 
impaired people as possible.

Does anyone know if there is a central mailing list for blind / visually 
impaired musicians?

I know there are specialist ones, such as the Pro Tools access list, and the 
Logic access list (which I unfortunately don't have the address for).

If anyone knows of one, please let me know. If not, then I'll create one.

This all came about, after a very interesting conversation with some good 
friends of mine, who pointed out that it would be great, to have a central 
repository for information, pertaining to making music as a blind person, and 
also, the various software, hardware, and other technologies out there. I 
thought it was a great idea, but I don't want to replicate someone else's hard 
work.

Cheers, and sorry if I've waisted anyone's time.

Take care,

Chris Norman
Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]

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Switching apps and switching windows [was Re: safari tabs vs windows]

2011-04-24 Thread Esther
Hi Sarai,

A good way to remember the window switching shortcut (Command-Accent) is to 
think about it together with the application switching shortcut (Command-Tab) 
-- which is like the similar shortcut for Windows (Control-Tab).  On the Mac, 
Command-Tab will let you rotate between all the currently active applications.  
Pressing Command-Accent (where the Accent key is just above the tab key on 
English language input keyboards) switches you between open windows within the 
current application.  In both cases adding the Shift key to your shortcut 
combination (e.g. Command-Shift-Tab, or Command-Shift-Accent) moves you through 
the active applications or open windows in the reverse order.  Remember that on 
the Mac you don't quit an application when you close its window (Command-W), 
but only when you actually quit the app (Command-Q).

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:57, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Command accent! That is the one I always forget. LOL Thank you,
> Sarai Bucciarelli
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> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
> 
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jane wrote:
> 
>> Safari Tabs control-tab
>> 
>> Safari Windows command-accent
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> 
>>> All:
>>> I'm having problems finding the keyboard combos to navigate between Safari 
>>> tabs, and Safari windows. Please help?
>>> 

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Mod Note - Happy Easter and OT reminder

2011-04-24 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All;

Just let me wish a very happy Easter to those who celebrate! -Thanks for your 
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I just want to remind everyone that OT posts are not permitted here. The quick 
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Technical AirPort question

2011-04-24 Thread Scott Howell
All,

I hope this will make sense, but this is a little complicated perhaps. 
Currently I have an AirPort Time Capsule as the main router and an AirPort 
Express on another floor to extend the range of the network. The Time Capsule 
has both a 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz radio. I learned the AIrPort Express does as well. I 
have effectively two networks it seems in that devices can connect to the 
2.4Ghz or 5Ghz network, which has the same name accept the 5Ghz network 
actually states network name followed by 5Ghz. The goal of course was to 
segregate the 8211G devices from the 8211N devices by allowing devices 
supporting 8211N to only access the 5Ghz network. THis seems to work fine, but 
I noticed that my iPad was loosing it's connection until I allowed it to 
connect to the AirPort Express by entering the password (which is the same for 
the entire network). My thought was that perhaps for some reason although the 
Express is extending the network, the iPad was not making the switch to the 
extender. So, that got me to wondering if the iPad was connecting to the 2.4Ghz 
or 5Ghz portion/radio of the network. I'm still not entirely sure since it 
seems the AirPort Express when setup does not allow access to a lot of the 
configuration options. Well ok, of course you can change anything, but when 
configured to extend the range of the network, it would make sense that you 
would not need access to all options (if that made sense).
So, once I connected it seem to behave as expected, but at that time I did not 
realize the AirPort Express had both 2.4 and 5Ghz radios. So, after all that 
prattle, does anyone know a bit on how these routers work as far as handing off 
traffic to an extender and how a device knows to make the switch? I suspect I 
know more than I realize, but just haven't found the best resource to learn. 

Thanks,

Scott

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Re: trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Within limits, yes.  There are certain things you don't really do on iPhones, 
such as interact with controls or tables.  But overall, the experience is 
similar enough that you'll be able to pick it up fairly quickly.  
Best,
Zack.
On Apr 24, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:

> So, is the track pad commander compatable with the iphones?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:13 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: trackpad commander
> 
> Hi Zack. No worries. I just wanted to make sure I was not doing something
> wrong. It's all good. Thanks for the reply.
> 
> Tony
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tony,
>> I don't know about your specific model of Macbook, but my instinct would
> be that it is a bit too early for the multitouch trackpads to have been
> added.  My own MacBook Pro has one, but it's late 2010.  I'm afraid you're
> probably out of luck with the trackpad commander, which is a shame because
> that really is a nice feature.
>> Sorry I'm not more encouraging.  If you really wanted to, I suppose you
> could get a magic trackpad and hook that up, though if you ask me it's more
> trouble than its worth.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Apr 24, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone. 
>>> 
>>> IS the trackpad commander only functional in certain models of Macbook? I
> have a 2006 model, which I think is the MA699 or 669. Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> Tony Hernandez
>>> 
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Re: Slightly O-T: Blind musicians list

2011-04-24 Thread joseph
hi

midimag.org,  sorry i did not find the subscribe like.

hth
On 25 Apr 2011, at 00:12, Chris Norman wrote:

> Hiya All,
> I'm sorry that some of the lists I've posted this too, mean the post is 
> slightly Off topic, but I'd like this to get to as many blind / visually 
> impaired people as possible.
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a central mailing list for blind / visually 
> impaired musicians?
> 
> I know there are specialist ones, such as the Pro Tools access list, and the 
> Logic access list (which I unfortunately don't have the address for).
> 
> If anyone knows of one, please let me know. If not, then I'll create one.
> 
> This all came about, after a very interesting conversation with some good 
> friends of mine, who pointed out that it would be great, to have a central 
> repository for information, pertaining to making music as a blind person, and 
> also, the various software, hardware, and other technologies out there. I 
> thought it was a great idea, but I don't want to replicate someone else's 
> hard work.
> 
> Cheers, and sorry if I've waisted anyone's time.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Chris Norman
> Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
> Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]
> 
> Follow my music on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject
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Re: trackpad commander

2011-04-24 Thread Mary Otten
Trackpad commander is not a feature of ios; hence it is not relevant to 
I-devices.

Mary
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Temporary resolution of Safari hanging

2011-04-24 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hi,

I've seen some complaints about Safari hanging a lot. I've had it on some sites 
where Safari will hang perpetually and will not come out of it. I was on 
snopes.com and i was doing this a lot. I noticed that if I turn off Voiceover 
and turn it on again, then Safari is no longer hanging when I come back to it. 
This might help for some people's situations.

Brandon

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Re: A growl tip

2011-04-24 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Colin,
I've checked the boxes for speak text on contact becomes available and
unavailable.  let's see what I get.  Thanks for being so helpful.  I
just think it's such a cool amenity, and I'd love to see it work.
Kevin

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Re: Switching apps and switching windows [was Re: safari tabs vs windows]

2011-04-24 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Thank you, that does help, and actually makes sense when you explaine it that 
way. 
On Apr 24, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Sarai,
> 
> A good way to remember the window switching shortcut (Command-Accent) is to 
> think about it together with the application switching shortcut (Command-Tab) 
> -- which is like the similar shortcut for Windows (Control-Tab).  On the Mac, 
> Command-Tab will let you rotate between all the currently active 
> applications.  Pressing Command-Accent (where the Accent key is just above 
> the tab key on English language input keyboards) switches you between open 
> windows within the current application.  In both cases adding the Shift key 
> to your shortcut combination (e.g. Command-Shift-Tab, or 
> Command-Shift-Accent) moves you through the active applications or open 
> windows in the reverse order.  Remember that on the Mac you don't quit an 
> application when you close its window (Command-W), but only when you actually 
> quit the app (Command-Q).
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:57, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> Command accent! That is the one I always forget. LOL Thank you,
>> Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Personal to win Amazon and other free gift cards, Come join me on 
>> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jane wrote:
>> 
>>> Safari Tabs control-tab
>>> 
>>> Safari Windows command-accent
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>>> 
 All:
 I'm having problems finding the keyboard combos to navigate between Safari 
 tabs, and Safari windows. Please help?
 
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Re: Technical AirPort question

2011-04-24 Thread Mary Otten
This is probably a really stupid question, Scott. But are you sure the IPad has 
a 5GhZ radio in it? I know Macs do. But do I-devices as well?

Mary

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